Pseudo-legendary thread Who's your favorite? What would

HOLY CRAP YES I LOVE VOCLAORNA

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>>27318735
Truly best bug

Hopefully something that isn't a dragon.

>Should GF have given a second stage evolution to Larvesta and made Volcarona a pseudo?
That's a stupid idea. It doesn't need to be a pseudo anyway.

>>27318760
>isn't a dragon
I'm hoping for a fairy, but a Fairy/Dragon could be interesting

>That's a stupid idea. It doesn't need to be a pseudo anyway.
Why? It's already good but it could be better

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>>27318724
make Fuelong real and give him Levitate

>>27318724
>Goodra is best Pseudo

Tyranitar

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>>27318724
>volcarona a pseudo
>gets another 50 base stats
>none of them into attack
My anus isn't ready.

What constitutes a pseudo legendary? Is like some parameters to possibly provide a better answer.

as for now..

>Arcanine

I would like the gen 7 pseudo to not be dragon. Make it water this time.
Make it Wimpod.

>Favorite
Salamance, been my bro since sapphire. I dislike it's mega though, but it makes sense for a pokemon that always dreamt of flying to become nothing but wings.

>Hoping for in gen 7
Honestly something that isn't a dragon type, it's my favorite type but they are really over doing it. Maybe a Manticore or a sea fairy.

Where the hell is GOODRA?

>>27318846
600 base stats
Three stage evolution

That's literally it

We previously had a Pseudo Legendary thread. http://archive.is/6jwn8
91 people voted, including me. This is what the chart looks like:
>http://image.prntscr.com/image/1e80149f7865409589d3216a590f2b3b.png

>The average score for pseudos is 3,64/5.

Pseudo legendaries by numbers:
>http://image.prntscr.com/image/b89ae20f00c94a5080587646143b9501.png

Tyranitar is the voters’ favorite second stage pseudo legendary.
Dragonair is the voters’ favorite first stage pseudo legendary.
Dratini is the voters’ favorite unevolved pseudo legendary.
Goodra is the voters’ least favorite second stage pseudo legendary.
Pupitar is the voters’ least favorite first stage pseudo legendary.
Goodra is the voters’ least favorite unevolved pseudo legendary.
Dratini’s is the most well-received evolutionary line.
Goomy’s is the least well-received evolutionary line.

Finally, these are the respective voters' averaged opinions:
>http://image.prntscr.com/image/efbd6e45937a4ab9a0afa66ea91188fa.png

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Garchomp
I always catch a female one

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>>27318846
>he thinks Shitcanine is a pseudo

>>27318889
>shuffle shit
Fuck off.

>>27318781
Because giving something a middle stage evo in a later gen is about as useless as giving something a baby stage in a later gen. At least baby Pokemon are cute so it's almost justifiable.
Anyway, Gamefreak wouldn't give it a 50 BST boost, if last gen was any indication. Their method of upping an already powerful Pokemon would be giving it a Mega.

>>27318858
I don't want Wimpod to evolve into a big scary monster, I want it to stay cute!

>>27318882
Old art possibly

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>>27318906
>mega volcarona with dazzling
solves everything

>>27318936
Hopefully it looks nothing like that.

Honestly I'd hate if Volcarona gets a mega, it's design is amazing as it is and giving it a mega will most likely ruin it.

>Goomy’s is the least well-received evolutionary line.

I don't really get the hate. Fetishfags are always obnoxious, but Goodra's a decent mon and quite well-rounded, the evolutionary line's pretty interesting, and the single Dragon typing is good. The idea of a defense-focused pseudo is also nice.

They sort of fucked up the design and blindness theme with the final stage, but it's not that bad.

Why do most anons dislike it that much?

>>27318786
I fuck with this pokemon

>>27318903
Wasn't the original plan for r9k to be a legendary back in gen 1 or some Shit? Or am I pull in that out my ass?

>>27318977
Because Goodra looks like shit.

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>>27318903
>he prefers Charizard over Arcanine

>>27318977
Is fucking up on the design Goomy and Sligoo started and being gooey fetish bullshit not reason enough?

Add a lazy typing on top of that, a swampy snail dragon not having Water, Poison or Ground typing is a huge disappointment

>>27318887
Sometimes I wonder why Slaking isn't considered one if Legendaries can surpass 600 Bst.

>>27318977
>Sliggoo loses its eyes, then suddenly gets them again after evolving
>le kawaii uguu dragon
>pure dragon typing for a slimey swamp monster
>special defense focused with a signature ability that benefits from defense

>>27318987
But anon, How? pokemon aren't real, and this isn't even a real pokemon. Two wrongs can't make a right

>>27318977
>decent mon and quite well-rounded,
For a psuedo? Hell no it's not. Garchomp can be fast, bulky, and strong. It's well rounded. Metagross can be strong and bulky, its mega can be fast. That's well rounded. Being just bulky with kind of shitty offensive stats despite 600 BST and bad speed isn't well rounded.
>the evolutionary line's pretty interesting,
opinions.jpg, but Goomy to Sliggoo was interesting. Sliggoo evolving into that wasn't.
>and the single Dragon typing is good.
Not when we got like 3 other ones in the past 2 gens. If Haxorus didn't come to us in just Gen 5, then it might be a bit better recieved in Gen 6 might have been a little better.
>The idea of a defense-focused pseudo is also nice.
Yeah, Metagross is pretty nice.

>They sort of fucked up the design and blindness theme with the final stage, but it's not that bad.
Considering that theme is entirely nonexistent in the final stage and it barely even looks like a snail? It lost everything that makes it interesting. It's basically just a wingless purple dragonite. When you have 5 generations and 6 Psuedos of quality in a row, you expect quality out of the 6th generation and 7th psuedo.

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>>27318988
You're probably thinking of this image. Arcanine is pretty much just there as filler because Arcanine's species title is "Legendary Pokemon." Legendary in this case is just the normal descriptor of "described of in legends" (see Pokedex entries) and not the category in which Articuno, Mewtwo, etc reside in.

>>27319034
>Add a lazy typing on top of that
Pure dragon is cool. They could've done it with another mon but it's still good
I'm tired of dual types, simplicity is alright sometimes

>>27319035
We're not talking about legendaries.
Pseudo-Legendary is the fan term for a pokemon with 3 evolution stages and exactly 600 BST.

>>27319067
>Metagross is pretty nice.
Didn't Metagross get completely fucked by the metagame?

>>27319071
Isn't that the same case for Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres though? It's not like they actually do anything besides being big birds compared to Mew being extremely rare, celebi traveling back in time, Ho-Oh's revival powers, and all that.

>>27319071
Gotchu

>>27319098
>You
no? it's one of the best megas

>>27319098
Metagross in Gen 3-4 was nice, Gen 5 metagross hated Explosion's nerf because that stopped it from being really good at defense and then exploding in your face. XY Metagross got fucked by Steel losing its resistances, but ORAS Metagross is one of the problems people keep trying to blame the state of OU on, so he's in an alright position right now.

>>27319067
>hydreigon
>salamence
>quality

They may be usable, but they're garbage designs.

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>>27318890
would you a girly garchomp?

>>27318724
>Should GF have given a second stage evolution to Larvesta and made Volcarona a pseudo?

Fuck yes
+20 Att (realistic)
+20 Def
+10 SdD

would be realistic and already really good
any raise in SpA or Speed would make it gidly

god I wish it happened so much ;_;

>>27319099
The Bird Trio is different because there's only one of them in each game. Yes, multiple of each Bird exists but they're rare and you can only find one of them in each game.
Also the other requirements for a legendary are that you can't breed them and they don't have an evolutionary line. Arcanine fails these requirements.

>but what about Phione
Phione still counts because you can only get it by breeding a legendary Pokemon and it doesn't evolve into or from something. It's a special case but it still counts.

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>>27319150
I'll give you Mega Salamence's default croissant pose, but Bagon is a true nigga and the entire hydreigon line is great. The fuck are you talking about? This was probably the best Pokemon way to handle a hydra and not just making dragon dodrio.

If only Garchomp wasn't Dragon/Ground. I fucking hate ground types but I love his design and he was my bro in Platinum.

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>>27319168
No, that's what male Garchomp are for

>>27319179
shame XY fucked up Hydreigon's model hard by making it looks so bloated

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>>27319184
So you would a macho garchomp

>>27318967
I'm trying to think of something decent, Volcarona = Objectively best non-legendary bug but the only thing I can see is flaming wings to simulate the radiance of the sun. Give it drought/desolate land of course

>>27319178
You need an event Regigigas in Platinum to catch the Regis, but then you need to use those Regis to catch Regigigas in Snowpoint. The "one per game" thing is a little arbitrary. Especially when you can canonically get 2 of the creators of space and time within the same generation because Gold caught an Arceus.

>>27319207
Or Magic Guard :^)

>>27319179
Ugly legs and wings.
Ugly color scheme.
Just ugly.

>>27319182
>I hate Ground types
What kind of shit taste is that.

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>>27319198
mayyesbe

>>27319179
Not that anon, but I really have a love-hate relationship with the hydreigon line. On one hand, dark and dragon are very neat types, opened up to many possibilities, and a hydra is excellent. Deino and its evo excell at the concept, and they're just awesome overall. But hydreigon ditches a lot of the things I liked about the other two. the quirky and doofy aspect that it has is lost completely, it ditches the abilities it had for generic-useless-and-bland ability.jpg that is levitate, and the odd frills the heads have are weird. I love the idea of a dominant head, I don't want another dodrio, but it just does so much things I don't like.

That's just my opinion though, hydreigon is still a neat pokemon on its own right.

>>27319246
I just don't like them. I prefer Steel if anything.
Rock and Ground are the types I dislike the most for some reason
I still don't understand why they gave that type to Garchomp. I get the land shark thing, but still.

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>>27319207
I think a design based off of Mesoamerican art would be fantastic. I imagine a brilliant yellow with wings like the rays in pic related (not the face tho).
Or maybe something like the sun designs in Okami.

>>27319275
Balance probably. Being a water shark would've made it water/dragon, meaning it would've only had one weakness, and it was already way too broken in Gen 4 with an unmatched speed tier and stupid high stats. Being a pure dragon would have taken away its 4x weakness, which barely hurts it nowadays.

>>27319071
Wait a minute didn't Ash see Ho-Oh at the end of Episode 1 and points at Articuno?

>>27319300
no STAB earthquake would have been amassive loss though

>>27319236
The point is that you can only find one without having to resort to events or trading. Obviously it's a bit silly because you can fill up the entire damn PC system with Dialgas by continuously restarting Diamond and trading them over.

>>27319325
I can see it getting stab aqua tail and waterfall to compensate

Fuck, just imagine a water/dragon or Water/ground garchomp, if anything the dragon typing is the pointless one, its a land shark not a land dragon

>>27318724
>What would you like the Gen 7 pseudo to be?
Something with unique or rarely used type combination.

>>27319342
Electric/Grass, Fire/Grass or Fairy/Poison would be good. Maybe Steel/Poison
Fire/Water could be nice as well given as we only have Volcanion for that typing right now

>>27319342
>it will be a small normal kitten, turning into a weirdly shaped medium kitten, and eventualy becoming a half normal, half etheral panther with normal/ghost typing
I want my shrodinger's cat normal/ghost mon NOW

>>27318724
Does magnezone count?

>>27319375
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Metagross
Salamence
Garchomp
Hydreigon
Goodra

These are the only pseudo legendaries right now.

>>27318724
I hope it's gonna be a Dragon/Fighting or Dragon/Bug

>>27319342
Fire/Ice pseudo coming your way in Gen VII. Hope you like Stealth Rock

I want an Electric/Ice pseudo or legendary special sweeper so it can break the game with dual STAB BoltBeam

>>27319325
Back in Gen 4 a lot of the ground weak threats were steel or rock types, so they would've still been neutral or weak to Waterfall. The only real threats were steel types because you just THE BUTTON'd through everything else anyway.

>>27319356
That reminds me of how few dragon combinations we still actually have. Dragon/Electric, Dragon/Ice, Dragon/Fire, Dragon/Fairy, Dragon/Steel and Dragon/Grass are only taken by Legends and Megas, and Dragon/Poison and Dragon/Fighting still don't exist.

>>27319383
I've never understood why BoltBeam is such a sacred thing, I mean, most mons surely have it if something as mundane as rampardos has it right?

I want a Normal type pseudo legendary
Too bad it's never happening

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>>27319397
>and Dragon/Poison and Dragon/Fighting still don't exist
Gen 6 and already forgotten

Tyranitar is my favorite Pseudo, although I don't like them much.

I want a Ghost-Type Pseudo.

>>27319400
It's because it hits neutral or SE to nearly everything under the sun. I think the only exceptions are Magnezone and some mons with Thick Fat like M-Venusaur.

Rampardos has shitty SpA.

>>27319380
Pfff, magnezone BTFOs tyranitard, metashit and salaminge anyway

Dont know about the last 2 though

>>27319401
Gen VII seems bent on breaking the mold, so I'm really expecting a pseudo that does the same. A small, fragile final evo, with amazing stats distribution, don't care if its defensive or offensive, and a typing that is unexpected, like Normal/Ghost or Grass/Fire

>>27319401
I guess you're just going to have to deal with the cancers that are Gen 1 Tauros/Persian and Gen 6 Mega Kangaskhan instead then.

I loved how Fairy types made Hydraigon useless, great balancing

>>27319481
>create type to nerf dragon type
>dragon type gets nerfed
who would have guessed?

>>27319432
Rampardos has shitty everything, aside from ATK and maybe HP

But maybe you're right, maybe that's why people always tell me to run poryz with those moves and coverage options

>>27319446
...Thats not how pseudos work. Yeah, many mons can shit on most pseudos. Anything that can learn ice or fairy moves can deal with 4/6 of them, and Weavile can 1-hit-KO and outrun every single pseudo, maybe a fully buffed metagross might save itself

>>27319505
>type is more overpowered than dragon was before it got introduced
k

Overall and not counting megas, who's the most viable pseudo?

>>27319481
>I loved how Fairy types made Hydraigon useless

Lmao why do you retards pretend to know anything about competitive play

>>27319527
Garchomp or Dragonite, I think the former given how rough skin is more accesible to the commoner than multiscale

>>27319527
Probably still Chomp or Mence

>>27319527
Megamence > Garchomp > Tyranitar > Megagross = Dragonite > Hydreigon > Goodra

>>27319520
That's not what he's saying though. He's just saying you're complaining about a type getting nerfed when they specificaly meant to nerf it. Do you have any idea how OP hydreigon was in gen 5? it could one-shot litteraly anything, and barely any pokemon could beat it, maybe a mienshao if it wasn't running choice scarf.

Besides, hydreigon isn't useless. Pokemon with 4x weaknesses are still champs, or are you saying garchomp, ferrothorn, scizor, bisharp, breloom, lando-T and gliscor suck too?

>>27319527
Garchomp, Dragonite, or Tyranitar.

The others aren't even in the same conversation.

>>27318858
This meme is retarded
Wimpod will clearly end up Grubbin's opposite

>>27319551
>Salamence is UU now
huh I could've sworn it was still broken

>>27319569
>Do you have any idea how OP hydreigon was in gen 5?
Not very, because it sits at a suboptimal speed tier and is easily revenge killed

>>27319538
I would call being sent to UU a pretty big drop, it's more of the weakness to fairy type moves then to fairy type pokemon that's the issue

>>27319568
>>27319551
>Not counting megas
Come on guys, salamence is dragonite but shittier without its mega

>>27318735
ALOMAMOLA

>>27319569
Shitty speed senpai, it's special attack was all that made it noteworthy. It was never OP

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I want more non-dragon looking pseudos.

>>27319608
There's litteraly just one, and we've had 3 in a ow, good luck with that

>>27319608
Be careful what you wish for, I'd rather have more dragons then more Robots

I hope Drampa isn't the pseudo..
I need my edgy pseudomon.

>>27319625
>he doesn't like robots

>>27319630
drampa is just a random no evo mon.

>>27319581
Politoed went from most common OU in Gen 5 to PU in Gen 6 due to nerfs.

>>27319658
Politoed is PU because Drizzle is banned in UU and below, retard

Who here wants a pseudo with a stat spread similar to mandibuzz and a typing like poison/dark, water/electric or one of the many that give only 1 or 2 weaknesses?

>>27319672
Usage tiers are based off OU usage though. Politoed still has drizzle in OU.

>>27319658
Wait what warranted this? Is it because weather only lasts a certain amount of turns now?

>>27319708
it still wouldn't drop below UU if it could use Drizzle there

>>27319709
he's retarded

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>>27319679
>600 BST Poison/Dark wall with levitate

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Till I die t.bh

I'll never forget my first time facing Lance, and when he brought out Dragonite, that absolute monster, I couldn't do shit. Got btfo hard. I remember having difficulty grinding (I was 8, yellow version) and couldn't go higher than 65 on some of my Pokemon. My cousin had told me you could find "this little dragon" in Safari Zone, and when I tried fishing for it, I found it. I trained that little bastard for hours till it was able to evolve into Dragonair. Training it seemed like forever, I didn't know it would evolve at lv 55. But once it did, it became my best bro. I like TTar, Garchomp, and Metagross a lot, but Dragonite will always be my bro.

>>27318906
>he doesn't understand past tense

Does anyone else find all pseudo legendaries unappealing?
Their designs aren't that good, the evolutionary lines aren't interesting, and they're just generally mediocre outside of their competitive aspect.

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>>27319787
>The stat distribution is made to tank and hit back, with a humongous HP stat and access to counter, magic coat and most "hit later for more damage" moves.
>It fares excellently as stall breaker for the first moths the game is out
>Suddently stallfags get M-Sableye flashbacks
>It becomes the brand new staple of stall
>People now hate it more than goodra
It could always not happen, and just turn into a good defensive mon with cleric capabilities that outclasses chansey, that'd be neat

>>27319071
The japanese names for the birds are Freezer, Thunder and Fire, Arcanine's Windy so maybe

is goodra actually bad?

>>27319945
Its an amazing special wall with an assault vest. It can't do much else, and without it its outclassed by many other mons with more offensive capabilities, like slowking.

>>27319581
Hydreigon was dropping to UU at the end of gen 5 no matter what happened. The fairies had nothing to do with it.

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>>27319792
how do you get BTFO by this?

>>27318889
>Tyranitar is number one
As well it should be.

>>27320185
Hyper Beam was literally the best move back then.

>Highest attack in the game
>Highest Base power move in the game
>Bulky and resistant to so many types
Audino, you tell me

>>27318724
Something that isn't like Goodra. I honestly want every pseudo to be at least somewhat edgy, or at least fearsome in some way.

Yeah, ow the edge but Goodra was fucking horrible.

>>27320338
>>27320330
how do you fuck up this bad

>>27320330
>>27320338
lol, shit at pokemon and posting

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>>27320342
>>27320357
Well, excuse me for not pressing l strongly enough. And I'm not the one who fucked up at pokemon, I'm just letting you know how the other anon must have fucked up as a kid.

Its not like I needed you guys pointing it out to want to kill myself over that mistake already, you dicks

>>27319481
>>27319581
If anything, Megas hurt Hydreigon's viability more than Fairies did. Not being able to keep up with all the shiny new sweepers and especially wallbreakers are what pushed it into UU, not just the sudden introduction of actual safe Hydreigon counters. Really, Hydreigon wasn't even looking so hot at the end of Gen V, with Black Kyurem stepping all over its turf as a Dragon-type mixed wallbreaker in OU. Shit like Mega Charizard X just blew it out of the water.
>>27319642
I wouldn't mind if Drampa was the Pseudo of Gen VII. It's confirmed to have really high Special Attack, so it's not going to be a passive shit like Goodra, and it can still look fairly threatening during some of its attack animations. Just slap on Hyper Voice or Boomburst and it'd be a welcome member of the pseudo fold.

>>27320392
>he doesn't use ctrl+s for spoilers
nigga, you typing this shit out?

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>>27318724
Best to worst

Metagross>Tyranitar>Salamance>Heidreigon>Dragonite>Garchomp>Goodra

>>27318724
>Dragonite
>Garchomp
>Salamence=Metagross
>Hydreigon=Tyranitar
>Goodra

>>27319066
fuck with as in I like it. I think it's cool. you fucking nerd

>>27320517
Also, a common type like bug or poison paired with dragon would be cool.

>>27320437
...n-no...Thank you

>>27320526
>Fuck with it as in I like it
Excuse, but who the fuck says "I'd fuck with it" to imply they like it and nothing more? what kind of idiomatic nightmare are you trying to make?!

>tyranitar
>salamance
>dragonair
>hydreigon
>garchomp
>metagross
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>goodra
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>fat charizard

>>27320556
I didn't say "I WOULD fuck with it" as in "I would have sex with it" I meant "I fuck with it" as in "I think it's cool."
Like how people say "do you fuck with lil uzi (rapper who also happens to play pokemon)"
I'd be like "yeah I fuck with uzi that guy is cool."

fanwank

>>27320624
Its the same argument, who the fuck says "I fuck with it" to imply the like something? It makes even LESS sense, since you're not even implying any semblance of interest anymore

>>27320556
>>27320670
>he's not hip to the latest jive

>>27320670
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuck%20with
It's something people say bro. I don't get what you're arguing that saying "I fuck with X" means I don't have interest in it

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>>27320624

>>27320724
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuck%20with%20you
Here's a better entry actually
>>27320751
>me having to explain pop culture phrases to actual autists
>calling me autistic

>>27320816
>yo my nig jus usin the hip lingo yunowudimsayin?

>>27320849
you're just mad you were unpopular in school and have no social life now

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I don't know about you guys, but I hope this guy turns out to be the Pseudolegendary for Gen 7. Someone in another thread mentioned Destoroyah, and I could totally see it happening as a bug/water->bug/dragon->bug/dragon trio a la the Flygon line. The Godzilla franchise is easy pickings for designs for Pokémon, especially the pseudos. I mean if they keep it at bug/water I'd be fine, but I'm not adverse to the idea of more pokemon based on kaiju.

>>27320751
>>27320849
You're so bothered, it's sad.

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Best looking one imo

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Tyranitar

Drampa is the pseudo.

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>>27321084
nope

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>>27318889
>Dratini/Dragonair favorite gen 1 pokes
>still haven't caught dratini in Go
Feels bad. Just watched a subbed Legend of Dratini for the first time.

>>27318735
A L O M A M O L A is my favorite pseudo and

Pure Dragon Goodra was boring.

Hopefully we get Dragon/Fighting.

>>27324453

Oh and Tyranitar is by far my favourite pseudo, followed by Metagross. None of the Dragons do much for me - would take Noivern over any of them.

>>27318977
I wish it got fucking recover or something then I'd love it

>>27319446
They all get earthquake though

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>>27319527
>including megas
Mega Salamence definitely, it's literally a discount Rayquaza

>not including megas
Probably Garchomp since it's so versatile

>>27319608
This. Honestly, a really tough fairy pseudo could be intimidating enough without being a dragon or a robot.

>>27318724
Yes, they definitely should've given Volcarona a cocoon (maybe something that looked like a paper mache sun?) and upped it's stats to 600, would've made a great pseudo.

As for Gen VII, I'm still gunning for a Fairy/Steel Pokemon based on a classic Knight (aka a dragon slayer) high attack/defense, moderate speed, low specials.

>>27318967
>giving it a mega will most likely ruin it
Then don't mega evolve it

>>27319397
Can't wait for the eventual Dragon/Fighting kung fu pokemon!

>>27318882
Goodra isn't worthy of being a pseudo. Gen6's pseudo is Aegislash.

>>27318936
>dazzling
Give it Tinted Lens and it will be a top tier wallbreaker.

>>27319589
>>27319691
>>27323374
What is this new meme?

I think it's kind of wierd that gamefreak isnt activly trying to give every type a Psuedo. It just seems dair that every type get a pokemon that is comparable to legendaries in strength instead of giving it all to dragon.

>>27318724
Anything but a dragon. I honestly don't think we have too many dragons, just the right amount really, they're quite varied. But really I'd prefer (and expect) a fairy pseudo over anything else.

>>27318724
>What would you like the Gen 7 pseudo to be?
dragon/fairy

>>27324982
Tripfag thought he could evolve Luvdisc into Almomamola when he was a kid
It's basically Pearl when I was six 2.0

What type of person/player do you associate each pseudo with?

Salandt better be a fucking pseudo, OG gets his own trailer.

>>27320972
YES PLEAAAAASE

>>27325357
I think he might have been joking anon

If Volcarona counted, it'd be my hands down favorite pseudo. But since it's not...

Probably Metagross or Garchomp. Dragonair is my favorite individual stage, though.

>>27326131
>Lance
>Blue
>Zinnia
>Steven
>Cynthia
>Ghetsis
>Diantha

>>27320185
He was 8 you mong. If you knew what you knowe now back then you wouldn't have a problem with him. Dragon was the OP type in the 1st gen with a lack of ice types/moves and a lack of dargon types/moves. Also he was a kid.

>>27327230
Dragonite is weak to rock

>>27327252
Right, all two Rock-type moves in the game in Gen I.

>>27319244
>Ugly legs and wings
I'll give you the wings, but the legs make sense from a biological standpoint. Hydreigon spends most of its life in the air so much thanks to its 6 wings, that the legs have atrophied and became vestigial.
>Ugly color scheme
The fuck are you on? The dark colors blend in pretty nice with eachother and convey it's primary type well enough.
>Just ugly
opinions.jpg

Metagross is hands-down the coolest. A supercomputer made of steel with four mechanical legs > dragons

>>27318786
it still pisses me off that they made fuelong blue and ragnarow red just because everyone wanted burning's dick, THEN they decided to make tozecko a trio with the other two and nothave it change color, THEN they made burning's designs the official ones without bothering to add bags to his art after he left, so the protags just keep shit in their pockets, THEN they called the whole thing a wash and gave up

>>27319067
You realize that fucking salamence and garhomp are better defensive mons than Metagross, right?

Hydreigon and yes to volcarona, that dude is an awesome bug-type which is my favorite type

>>27318843
as best bug user, best bug does not need bug buff as best bug is best bug without best bug buff. but if best bug were to get a buff, best bug should get buff into defense or health as best bug already has best stats in everything else.

>>27318786
honestly one of the coolest pokemon ever designed

why are they better than GF

>>27318988
ignore other guy, arcanine was actually going to be part of the original trio, and they replaced him with moltres for consistency.