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>Ability is basically an automatic substitute

Oh great, I just hope it's stats won't make it annoying to defeat.
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>>27291438

It won't, Game Freak would never put an ability that good on something with decent stats.

Mimikyu is this gen's joke/gimmickmon ala Farfetch'd/Dunsparce/Spinda.
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This is my favourite new pokemon for a long time. All in all the new designs are the best I've seen since gen 3
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>>27291452
Dunsparce is decent though. Serene Grace and good moves make up for it.
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So this ability will be a one time use in battle or will it activate everytime its swiched in?
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>>27291452
Dunno man - Sableye had shit stats but movepool and ability was enough to turn it into something worthwhile.
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>>27291600
I think it's just like intimidate. It will activate whenever it's switched in.
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>>27291619
But that would be broken. Unless it has like a garbage 400 BST which is very probable so I guess that will balace it
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>disguise+focus sash
>guaranteed 2 turns to fuck around

could be pretty dank if it has good moves to capitalize on it
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>>27291619
Considering it tips over to indicate the disguise has been broken, I think it's once per battle. Having it reset would be horseshit.
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>>27291655
And we all know gf wouldn't put a horseshit ability in the game!
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Worst case scenario
>High defense and special defense
>Stat boosting moves
>Good support moves
>Disguise will work the same as normal substitute. It will only break if it's strong enough.
>Disguise activates every time its switched in like Intimidate.
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>>27291600

Once per battle, probably. The latter would be way too annoying. You could just keep sending Mimikyu out to take hits/scout before sending in something else.
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>>27291673
>people are still mad about the bravest bird in the world
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>implying it'll have good stats

just another gimmickmon that'll go straight to NU

>people actually thought Zoroark would completely change the meta
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I still can't unsee the giant nipples and the rusing capabilities. I hope it's uncommon.
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>>27291438
As a stallfag, I like the sound of it.
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>>27291709
The preview feature completely fucked up the purpose of Zoroark's ability though.
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>>27291732

Team preview is the least of Zoroark's problems.
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>Run two Mimikyu
>Switch back and forth between them every turn
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>>27291438
>the new snorlax
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Speaking of new abilities will Furfrou now have Fluffy as its HA? Not that it matters since fur coat is better
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>>27291791

Mareep and Flaaffy should get it, and have it replaced by Lightning Rod as Ampharos
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>ability+toxic(will o' wisp)+sub+protect+shadow sneak
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>>27291743
This.
>Illusion is intended to help it tank hits, by tricking opponents into using Not Very Effective moves
>has such low defenses that it's KOd by a slight breeze making Illusion pointless
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God, I hope it gets Disable.
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>>27291817
>Evolite Fluffy Flaaffy
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>>27291452
>Free switch ins
>Potential sweeper stopper since most ghosts learn will-o-wisp/thunder wave and it can take a free hit.
>Free to set up on the first turn
It will be decent at the worst. This thing has a lot of potential depending on what the moveset looks like.
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>>27291874
>free Substitute
>THREE immunities
This little fucker is gonna get more than one free turn, stats or not.
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>Still disappointed that it's not Normal/Ghost. If it were,

>Immune to Normal, Fighting, and Ghost
>Resists Poison and Bug
>Only weakness is Dark
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>>27291452
Tell that to Aegislash and Talonflame.
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>>27291452
>Game Freak would never put an ability that good on something with decent stats.

You mean like Magic Guard Clefable, Regenerator Slowbro, Magic Bounce M-Sableye and Prankster Thundurus?
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>>27292044
Talonflame's stats are shit though.

We all know that if it wasn't for Gale Wings it would be a NU shitmon.
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>>27291608
Sableye isn't just worthwile, it's annoying as fuck and I believe Mimikyu will turn out to be the same level of faggotry despite shitty stats.

The typing and the ability are both excellent, so the only way to make it not annoying is making its movepool crap - which is unlikely since ghost and fairy types usually learn a plethora of status and support moves.
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>>27291452
Imagine if it evolves though, it's already pretty sp00ky as is
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Ghost/Fairy is:

>Immune to Normal, Fighting, and Dragon
>4x resistant to Bug
>Weak to Ghost and Steel

It's a Sableye situation; 3 immunities, only two weaknesses, but only one resistance
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Did you guys forget that all ghost pokemon are extremely good? Mimikyu will be beast.
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>>27292350
did you forget that banette exists?
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>>27292350

>Banette
>Regular Rotom
>Mismagius
>Shedinja
>Trevenant
>Gourgeist
>Dusknoir
>Golurk
>Drifblim
>Hoopa-Confined

Ghosts are most certainly not all good
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>>27291747
>x used pursuit!
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>>27291747
>die stealth rock + any attack
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>>27291452
>Garchomp in gen 4, when sand was everywhere
>Mega Gengar
>Fuck it, Shadowtag/Arena Trap in general
>Delta Stream
>Parental Bond
>Gale Wings

Oh haha you're merely pretending to be retarded!
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>>27292350
Ghost is the worst monotype in the game for a reason.
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>>27292679
>Ghost
>Worst

Don't be stupid. Bug, Dark, Normal, and Ice are contenders for the worst monotype.
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>>27291499
>a PU shitmon
>decent
Why is /vp/ always so delusional about this pokemon?
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>>27292729
smogon please go die
you are fucking bad at pokemon
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>>27292729
fuck off, smogonfag
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>>27291438
>Shellder used icicle spear
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>>27291438
>he thinks it won't friendship evolve and lose the disguise when it finally finds a trainer that loves it for what it is
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I wonder whether infiltrator will be able to bypass this ability.
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>>27292729
muh smogon tiers
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>>27291438
>It will have 1hp like shedinja
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>>27292788
>giving something with a free automatic substitute the ability to make use of eviolite
I'm okay with this.
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>>27292307
I like how it's immune to most multihits. Not even resistant, but immune.
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>>27292074

That's what anon is saying. Even if Mimikyu's stats are only decent, the ability will be enough to make it a pretty useful mon most likely.
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>>27292738
>>27292757
>>27292813
Stay mad dunsparcefags. No one gives a shit about your "bro". In fact, the only reason you autists like it is because no else cares about it. You think you're special snowflakes but you're all just gormless, contrarian faggots that all need to off yourselves ASAP.
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>>27291438
>implying it will block status moves
Not a substitute
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>>27292711
Ice counters Flying, Dragon and Ground, three of the best monotypes, so it can't be the worst.

The actual worst monotype is electric: no entry hazards, shitty coverage (lol HP Ice) and almost all of them can only play one role (special attacker).
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>>27291682
Imagine if it can learn U-turn or volt switch

Thunder wave
Will-o-Wisp
Shadow sneak
U-turn
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>>27292729
>he doesn't use NU and PU mons in OU, doubles or triples
What's it like using cookie cutter teams? Almost every mon is viable in double and triples if you've got a healer by its side.
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>>27292793
It probably will . I hope it does - Chandelure will hopefully be able to counter it then
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>>27292820
Still would be better than Shedinja - ability + focus sash
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>>27293488
You're stretching the definition of viable there. Sure, with heavy support you can keep a Dunsparce alive for a few turns and get some damage in. But with that same level of support you could use a better pokemon to sweep your opponent's entire team.
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>>27293706
>with that same level of support you could use a better pokemon to sweep your opponent's entire team.
You can but where's the fun in that? It's much more satisfying to win using a Wigglytuff than a Scizor.
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>>27291438
>Immune to Boomburst and Hypervoice
>x4 resistance to Bug Buzz
Oh fug!!!
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>>27291674
>best scenario

I want him to be amazing. Lol
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>>27292711
Bug and Dark certainly aren't.
Normal and Ice are correct though.
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>>27292738
>>27292757
>>27292813
>>27293488

>I'TS GOOD I SWEAR YOU FUCKING SMOGON FAG!!!!!

Please show me you dominating with that pokémon against good players, master strategists.
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>>27293706
capable of working successfully; feasible; possible to do
He's not stretching the definition. Just because Conkeldurr is better than Machamp doesn't mean Machamp is any less good. It means it is useful in different ways and fits better in certain situations or play styles
Dunsparce is some people's favorite Pokemon, and it is very possible to make it have use in your team. In fact, that's why we have tier systems by smogon. PU doesn't mean it is any worse than OU. Mandibuzz went from NU to OU almost immediately at one point.

So let's chill everyone. Just because people like to use different Pokemon doesn't mean they are shit players
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>>27291452
I'd say it's more like Kecleon, ok stats with a unique ability
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>>27292198

>Imagine if it evolves though

Fuck its evolution and slap an Eviolite on it
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>>27292307
Sableye only has one weakness.
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Red Card/Eject Button Mimikyu
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>>27291452
No one knows... Don't try confirming without any basis. It's your opinion, nothing more than that. I think IN MY OPINION, this MIGHT have more emphasis in Attack, Speed and Sp. Def.
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>>27292729
>muh """"""""fanfic"""""""' metagame

You don't even know what Dunsparce is capable of. Have fun using the same shit your Smogon spoonfeeds you
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>>27292198
This screams "I DON'T HAVE A FUCKING EVOLUTION"
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Posting stat prediction for Mimikyu because I didn't get a chance to in the other thread.
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>>27298814

Here's a template
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>>27294199
Why would I want to play against those types of people? The game gets so unfun at that point I'd rather actually play a defined strategy game
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>>27291452
>the implication that dunsparce isn't a beast
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>>27291438
>ability means a free boost
please have good speed, decent and nasty plot. Hopefully the ability keeps its focus sash from breaking too so it can get two free boosts
>>27291646
this guy gets it
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>>27291438
fuck yeah, annoying to defeat pokemon are my shit!
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>>27298814
>Bewear doesnt even have base 130 atk despite it being crazy strong
>Implying Comfey won't evolve
>Mimikyu hits harder than both bewear and mudsdale
>mudsdale isn't slow as hell and isn't even that bulky

I'm really glad that you don't make stats for gamefreak, although I'd heartily enjoy if mimikyu actually was good
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>>27291438
Focus Sash here I come
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>>27296134
Trade a Mimikyu not holding "The Memo" and it evolves into Raimimi
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>>27292788
Mimikyu split Evo
1.Pikachu in party Max Happiness, Mimikyu 0 Happiness
Evolution is it trying even harder to be Pikachu by either updating its merch or actually looking like a creepy Pikachu
Making its color fade and face become despondent when it loses digitize
2.Mimikyu at Max Happiness with a Pikachu in the party not at Max
Gets bigger takes off Merch cloak, finding a trainer that loves it etc. gets a new ability that boosts damage passively based on happiness value.
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>>27292537
Hoopa-C is decent at best. Its has a great movepool and immense special stats despite it's exploitable flaws. Little reason to use it over it's Unbound state though.
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Assuming stats were something like... 40/70/50/60/50/50

Would it be capable of being annoying?
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>>27298814
>whole concept of mudsdale is pure bulk
>dex says it can beat enemies in a single blow
>dex says its not very fast
>you give it mediocre bulk, mediocre attack, and high speed
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>>27298814
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>>27305258
>Mudsdale
>585 BST
Shit nigga that's a bit much.
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It's obviously going to activate once per switch-in. There are no once-per-battle abilities. It isn't THAT broken, and it will probably have very low speed so that it can't abuse volt switch, assuming that it even learns that (it isn't electric type, after all).
It'll probably work great as a max-attack LO revenge-killer with:
Status move (probably WoW, although Twave would be welcome)
Play Rough
Shadow Claw
Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch

That would let it get reasonable use in higher tiers, assuming its attack isn't awful. It'll have stiff competition from pokemon like Scizor who can both revenge kill AND actually stay in afterwards, and it'll be even worse without voltturn.

>People recommending stat-boosting moves on something with max 460 BST
Maybe in lower tiers. It'll probably be a physical attacker based on its art, so SD or Agility would be nice. It'll probably have paper defenses to make up for its ability and I'm guessing maybe 80-90 in its higher offensive stat.

The real problem is how annoying this will be to fight in routes - it was a huge mistake to make Sturdy pokemon so common in caves, and, as a Ghost type which will most likely have status moves and three immunities, this is just going to be even worse.
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>>27306922
>isnt that broken

It literally lets you switch in safely no matter what if it activates multiple times per battle. That's OP as fuck.
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>>27306971
There are plenty of stronger abilities. It's a good ability, but I'd be surprised if it protects you from status, and it probably won't have the stats to one-shot anything on neutral hits. If it had a good mixed movepool and Archeops-tier stats, I'd feel differently, but as-is, I'm not too worried. It's a new ability which will need to be played around, but it's limited.


Mimikyu @ Eject Button

Toxic
Protect
Substitute
Recycle


Mimikyu @ Rocky Helmet

Recover
WoW
Shadow Sneak
U-Turn
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>>27291438
subs dont break from every attack
also i dont think its immune to status while the ability is still active
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Mega Mimikyu
Ability: Master of Disguise
Description: Will not be damaged by any attacks for 5 turns.

What do you guys think?
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>>27294192
I agree with whoever said electric. While Ice and Normal are shittier types on their own merit, Electric has a monotype specific problem. Most types have enough variety that they can come up with ways to work around things that normally give them trouble. Most strong electric types have very same-y movepools, so something that fucks up one of them will fuck up most of them. Fire also has this problem to a lesser extent.

Normal may be a shit type in competitive play, but at least they've got something to work with.
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>>27307134
>>27306922
Just to keep this thread alive, here's my prediction on its base stats:
20/100/40/70/40/50
BST: 320
Enough to hit for respectable damage in lower tiers or as a revenge killer, but slow enough that it can't keep its disguise up for long. Easy to kill once you get one blow through. Can run special moves for coverage, like a HP to hit something for 4x damage (Only Pyroar resists its STAB moves, but maybe HP ice for Gliscor or something) but will definitely favor physical moves. Its stats work well with its gimmick, but don't do much else. Probably RU, but with potential to be used in higher tiers, similar to Ditto or Shedinja.
For extra poetry, it has the same BST as Pikachu.
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>>27291844
:D
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>>27307329
>Description: Will not be damaged by any attacks for 5 turns.

This is fucking bullshit. Who knows what this fucker will do in 5 turns.
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>>27306971
Multi hit moves called. they want a word with you about mimikyu.
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>>27291438
I really want this to be good, I love it so much.
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>>27306922
Isn't Illusion a once per battle ability?
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>>27291438
>Mothman endured
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Seems if they don't give it an alternative pokeball skin and make it this gens Voltorb/Foongus, they're wasting potential.
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>>27291438
>ability
>protect
>switch out
Rense repeat
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