https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyR JBJDH8eg

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imagine being asshurt that you don't need to tediously grind

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i hate pokemon furfags. this is why i am a animal crossing furfag.

MAD AS FUCK
>anyone that hacks are not a true pokemon fan waah waah waah

What a fucking baby

>>27263150
Hey I spent money on Powersaves for IV nonsense, I should probably be upset about this but I'm not. Why would Legitfags hate easier IVs?

>>27263150
Stop shilling your shitty youtube channel. Nobody cares.

>>27263150
Tell me what's the video about please. I don't want to be clickbaited.

"Wahhhh! People aren't having fun the same way I am! M-mom, they're making the kids game I like more casual and less grindy! Bawwww!" - grown man who wears a dog collar while doing commentary over a children's game on YouTube.

Poketubers are cancer.
Youtubers are malignant cancer.

>>27263341
Legitfags should be upset because they've wasted their time.

>>27263341
hes asshurt that you don't need to grind breeding for IVs anymore

he's a furfag so the autism is explained

PEOPLE CAN GEN POKEMON, IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU ARE A LEGITIMATE PLAYER

PEOPLE WILL LITERALLY GEN POKEMON ANYWAY HOLY SHIT THIS IS CANCER

>>27263341
Furfag being assmad because people don't wanna breed Pokemon

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>>27263150
>Hates people who hack
>Is given a legitimate way to raise IVs
>Fucking bitches about it

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>>27263150
>I don't have to waste hundreds of hours of my life anymore REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i have to say i hope to get a job to buy my brother a 3ds or 2ds. to play pokemon moon or sun with me. i think this will change his mind. he been playing pokemon go but he don't like the idea of ev training.

>>27263396
EV training was streamlined in gen 6. Gen 7 is stream lining IVs.

His time isn't wasted or invalidated because they put this in the game. He was wasting his time the moment he decided to spend hundreds of hours breeding pokemon.

>>27263150

https://youtu.be/T3qLv0PeUik

>>27263150
>I like mindless grinding

wew

BikeSim fags were a mistake

>>27263150

"oh man its bad to make Quality of Life cha-"

>Verlisify

oh, so it's a clickbait video. never mind.

This is every single bikefag boiled down to one cancerous video.

Their mentality is literally "I am a fucking retard who wasted hundreds of hours and enjoyed it, therefore anyone who wants to play competitive should, too". They're assblasted players can finally use the mons they got in-game and don't have to waste hours to breed one.

>>27264882
Except most breeders are happy for this change

>>27263347
You do realize if you upload only a lone video of dashcam animal crashes then you are a YouTuber, right?

There's some good shit on the site too. Sturgeon's Law and all that.

>>27264965
There's a difference between normal breeders and bikefags, which mostly lies on entitlement and autism

>>27263150
>Literally all of your work from the last generation has been undone.

Welcome to every generational shift ever Verlis. We couldn't go gen 2 to gen 3. We Could go gen 5 to 6, but the blue pentagon made our all of our 5th gen pokes worthless.

It's the same exact situation. New Gen, New Rules. Also, your laps in logic is unfathomable.

>Making the game easier will mean more cheating.

???

AHH!! Why has this fucker not been swatted yet?

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>>27263150

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>>27263150
I fucking called it, some fags were gonna get asshurt over a godsend feature

>>27263150
He's mad because breeding pokemon was the closest thing he could get to breeding WITH a pokemon

>>27263341
It's Verlisify, and he's not happy. You're welcome.

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>>27265385
kek

>>27265034
>implying that isn't cancer too

Go Fuck Yourself law and all that.

>>27263150
you all realize he's the one that posted the video here right?

I'm a bikefag and I truly don't give a shit about people who gen their mons. It's not even remotely worth getting getting mad about. Verlis is pure, concentrated autism.

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>>27265385
Holy shit my sides

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>>27263150
>"It's ten times quicker and easier to breed"
>making something that's tedious, boring, and completely random easier is a bad thing
This is probably my favorite part of Sun/Moon so far. I can finally be a part of non-showdown competitive stuff. Not to mention that you get to use your bros from start to finish and then in online play.

>>27264965
To be fair, they said bikefags, not breeders.
If you have fun breeding, by all means go ahead, but if you get pissed others don't, that's when you become a bikefag.

>>27266099
This. All you have to do is reset/catch until you get a good nature. If you get a shiny with missing IVs from breeding or during the game, then you can redeem it through Hyper Training.

Fuck you OP.

This shitface gets entirely too much attention and you are literally to blame for this problem.

I don't hate furries just to "fit in" on 4chan, but how people like this act like miserable pricks but are perceived as endearing by pretending to be cartoon animals and using this as part of their online personality is fucking absurd.

>>27263396

>he don't like the idea of ev training.

You don't have to give a shit about ev or ivs to play or enjoy the games, get a 2DS into his hands with Sun or Moon, if he actually gets into it enough to want to play competetively, then he can start worrying about evs or ivs.

>>27263150

Is everyone in agreement that this loser is borderline retarded?

Why do people entertain that Youtuber again? The fucking word, Youtuber, triggers me lol.

>>27266320
Yes.

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>>27263150
>"You're pretty much allowed to hack now"
>They've added hyper training so less people bother hacking and just train
Also
>"Waaa waaa, everyone cheats in tournaments :'("
When will he learn and gitgud?

Hahahaha I'm glad he's butt frustrated. Why is he comparing it to cheating? They made a new feature so fucking what.

What if there's a limited number of caps per game?

Or what if they make the process of obtaining caps SUPER fucking tedious?

In which case I'll just cheat in some caps and...the furfag will have his point proven. Oh God. GF, please don't make Bottle Cap grinding a tedious AF process...Don't let the Furfag win.

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>>27263150
>Upset because he doesn't have to spend hours breeding...

?

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seeing this pedophile faggot have an autistic meltdown made my day :D

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You're at the park and this guy slaps your Pokemon's ass.

What do you do?

>>27266794
Ok Furfag yes, but...pedophile?

I need evidence.

Or I need fake evidence planted so that he crashes and burns. I honestly want to see him wiped off the internet and I don't care what it takes bar killing him.

>>27266737
they did mention that the event magarnea would be holding one
maybe we wont have semi-easy access till post game?
pls gf dont be fags

I'd watch but I fucking hate Verlis, he's literally just as bad as a attention whore streamer on twitch who does controversial things just for clickbat views and to get retards to argue with him, not falling for his retarded bait.

>>27266852
>Pokemon's
>Child's

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>>27266852
>Pokéwalker collar
You can't make this shit up

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>>27266861
you and me are going to be good friends :D

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>if you hack Pokemon you are not a true supporter of the franchise

pretty much nobody thinks breeding for ivs is good

verlisify has to be the first i've even seen complaining about this

I'm surprised nobody here is talking about not having to do soft-reset simulator for catching perfect IV legendaries anymore.

>>27267113
Oh yeah...We still have to soft reset for Natures though...maybe...unless GF decides to do something about that too.

Like, maybe a "mood altering" item.
>NB4 herbal substances.

And if that's not the case, then we're stuck with one nature, per legend, per game.

Meaning I can't have an Adamant, Jolly, Impish Lando-T AND Modest, Timid, Hasty Lando-I.
It means I have to trade, and completely restart the game, AND play RNG resest 6x...for one legend.

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>>27266977
>TPC is so great because they told me hacking Pokemon is not allowed!
>TPC is so shit because they made a feature I don't like!

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Wait, for how long have hatched eggs from hacked parents been banned? I've been doing it for balltism and egg moves and I thought it counted as legit as long as you hated it normally.

>>27267750
>hated

hatched*

>>27267750
Technically you aren't allowed to hack in general, its just they don't care unless you start shouting about it at an official tournament. They only gave him that answer to shut him up and to prevent people from doing the above.

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>>27265414
>>27266096

>>27267238
>he wants some fucking brave new world drug to be given to his pokemon to fit what he wants

>>27267750
Theyre not. Ray Rizzo won VGC with a hacked Aegislash in a Dream Ball and didnt get punished

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>>27263150
Ya'll niggas know this kid is just doing it for Youtube dolla, right? This click bait shit has been going on for ages and he's even admitted to doing it for the dolla.

>>27268201
feels good having not fed him a single view

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>>27263150
I think this change destroys some impressively complex gameplay and makes the game a lot more shallow. I think breeding is tedious as fuck and I've never done it, but I'm glad that people were able to improve their pokemon through hard work and incredible knowledge of the game's deepest mechanics.

Hopefully the way to get bottlecaps has enough gameplay that it's more of an alternate route to getting a perfect pokemon than a way for any nugget who picks up the game to be able to min max. As a former WoW player, streaming may look neat and be cool in the short term, but it can add up and leave the game as an empty shell of itself. Unlike WoW though, pokemon doesn't rely as hard on RPG mechanics to build up the gameplay, so while I'm a bit dissapointed about this change, I'm completely okay with it.

That being said the guy in the video you posted is a complete fucking nugget pissing about nothing for eleven minutes. It's reactionary nonsense with no real substance. Here's some nice chickens.

>>27268278
nugget?

>>27268309
Yeah.

A fucking nugget.

>>27263150
The other thread got deleted for no fucking reason, so here's my response to Verlis bulllshit:

Literally no "legitimate player" would turn down fixing IVs. "Legitimate players" know just how long breeding takes.

I've been breeding for competitive Pokemon since Gen IV. I've bred two perfect Pokemon out of around forty prior to Gen VI, and sunk hundreds of hours into the process. I learned how to RNG manipulate to get special Pokemon like Cotton Guard Banette and HP Fighting Beheeyem. I rejoiced when Gen VI came around (hell, I rejoiced over B2W2's breeding upgrades) and now I'm ecstatic because of hyper training.

Verlis has been around since the beginning of Gen VI. He doesn't know what hell breeding was before this gen. His furry ass needs to shut the fuck up.

>>27268278
>I think this change destroys some impressively complex gameplay and makes the game a lot more shallow.
>Unlike WoW though, pokemon doesn't rely as hard on RPG mechanics to build up the gameplay

Pantsu on head retarded

>>27265259
>tfw he might have a hacked 6 IV Ditto and he'll never know the difference

>>27263150
>Another fucking e-celeb thread
Why isn't this shit banned yet?

>>27268434
Because laughing at this autist is a good time.

>>27266320

>Borderline

>>27268371
I don't normally respond to shitposts but this gives me an opportunity to say some shit I couldn't find a good reason for in the main post.

>I think this change destroys some impressively complex gameplay and makes the game a lot more shallow.
It has potential to remove the breeding scene, which I've always found impressive as it was a hobby inside a video game and required complex knowledge.

>Unlike WoW though, pokemon doesn't rely as hard on RPG mechanics to build up the gameplay
What I mean by that is that Pokemon doesn't need its progression to be incredibly satisfying because it depends more on things like its stellar character design to be unique and interesting.

>>27267750

It's legit as long as it's techically possible to get without hacking.

Good thing GF got rid of illegal egg move combinations.

>>27268572
The only part of the breeding scene it removes is the Egg Lottery. You'll still have to jump through hoops to get the right moves on the child, you just won't have to hatch an egg thousands of times to get the right IVs.

>>27268605
Oh shit I forgot about that. I've never really bothered with any of that stuff.

A better way to go about that though would be if instead of creating a way to bypass the breeding system, they made a way to rig it so it's still the same game but just less tedious.

>>27268659
And you still have to breed endlessly for shinies if you were into that.

So endgame wise, they just streamlined the shittiest part and people could still grind for cosmetics that don't alter gameplay.

>>27268572
Well, breeding isn't completely dead, you still need egg moves on some Pokemon, and in some cases it makes getting hidden abilities with the right nature easier too. It just simply means that you can level grind instead of waiting for that 5-6 IV that you'll need to level grind anyways.

>>27263150
finally a game that makes the pokemon you capture viable competively and wasting thousands of hours breeding.
>bithes anyway.
how can people be this retarded

>>27268887
He's the same guy that apparently thinks a pokemon that was hacked, but is exactly the same as one someone would breed, gives you an advantage and is worth carrying out a crusade over.

In reality he's mostly in it for the views, but some people are actually dumb enough to agree with him so its worth discussing anyways.

>>27268914
How many of his viewers' pokemon were probably tainted by wonder trading 6 Perfect IV Foreign Dittos. Imagine if daddy Verlisify found out. He would disown them in a heartbeat.

Then he'd post a video about it.

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Fuck this guy

>>27268981
Unsub to what? 2 of these things aren't mutually exclusive.

>>27263150

Isn't this your king /vp/? He hates Smogon like you.

>WAHHHH IT'LL TAKE ME 1 HOUR TO MAKE A VIABLE POKEMON INSTEAD OF 3 WAHHHH

lmao legitfags are fucking autistic

>>27268591
this is wrong you fucking retarded.

>>27263315
Probably because a 6IV poke isn't going to be worth that much.
I myself can't decide if to be happy or angry about it

>>27268434
why do people get mad at threads about shit like this? you do realize we're just making fun of him? that watching the video doesn't necessarily mean we're giving him money,with adblock and the fact that, views don't actually make that much, and that mocking=/=support?

>>27263150
O come on really Kalos league.
Give me a break.
I don't wanna say !!!!
But writer & director is really such a,
Son of bit....!!!

Ash have 5 pokemons for now.

And no one's from fan's wanna see Ash lose this. time in league for Shit reason.
He have bunch of powerful pokemon.
Infernape have Blaze ability too and sceptile overgrow,Gigalith Snorlax,Charizard,Torterra,Glalie. etc

What's this indirect mean?!
they don't want kalose league come to end,Probably.
This is Zygarde series right. So crises come.....

All Poke Fans expecting too much from Xyz series.
They add so much suspense in pokemon Xy&z.
Mega Evolution,kalose crises,legend of ninga village and A lovely Friend
,Kalos league.
And Greninga Fever for fan's

Ash & Greninga Transformation
And etcetera etc etc???????!!!

I don't know why now they creating a Mess in Xyz
Everything is so messed with this also pokemon sun and moon too.

And people are watching Pokemon league battles all our from the world

How's professor Oak didn't know a thing on mega evolution they famous in world for what?!

The writer really screwed up now.
But don't screwed this series

Ash's & Greninga true fact
⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⤵⤵↙↙

REMOVE VERLIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95IjXqzyt5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWH0_FXIA5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbqlkHt2QCQ

REMOVE VERLIS

lmao he made a second video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYPL9qOp9o

His autism is kicking in hard now.

>>27275510
>"170 Dislikes 15 mins in. Please unsub you spoiled children"
Damn! He is mad.

>>27275581
Furry manchild on suicide watch.

What's wrong with his subscribers too? I thought that only the bigger youtubers had fanboys this autistic.

>>27275658
Verlisify's empire is built on pure autism. Of course most of his fans are autismos who believe you can win the VGC with a Weedle if you believe in your pokemon like in the anime.

>>27275674
I have autism and even I find this furfag more retarded than me.

>>27263150
Kid is legit retarded

>>27275510
>It takes less time to IV breed perfectly than to Hyper Train
>complained about time being taken
So what is it? it takes too much or not enough?

>>27275510
>Takes time to hyper train everything
Why not just hyper train a ditto, and use it to breed. What an entitled sad little idiot

>>27263150
I am now 1000% convinced that Verlisify is a bloody troll.
Honestly, stop paying attention to him.

What a faggot

>>27268914
Most of the video is bitching about wasted time, so he hates hacking because you aren't wasting the time like he did and therefore aren't that big a fan

>>27275510
>rewards hackers by making making easier to to make legitimate max Iv pokemon easier to obtain
>makes breeding pokemon only for egg moves, natures and shinies
>thinks that to be a competitive player is just having max iv and level 100 not strategy.
how stupid can someobe be?

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THE FAGGOT DID IT AGAIN JESUS CHRIST ON A BIKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYPL9qOp9o

>>27275581
It's at over a 1000 now

fucking hilarious

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>>27276085
i want to kick him in the throat

Jesus Christ I always knew he was a faggot, but this


It's just sad

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>basically nintendo has given a gigantic middle finger to every legitimate player out there

By making it easier to obtain good IV pokemon, they're giving a middle finger to legitimate players???
I knew he was a retard but this is some serious low IQ retardation

I feel bad because I know there's something wrong with him mentally but he's such a fucking cockgoblin holy shit

Furries are fucking cancer

>>27276085
>Gen 5 to Gen 6 breeding changes for IVs are QoL adjustments
>Gen 6 to Gen 7 additional ways to get perfect IVs are not QoL adjustments

This guy's a gold medalist in mental gymnastics.

>>27276428
I'm pretty sure he's litteraly an aspie

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>>27276085
I don't want to feed this faggot a single view. What is he saying about Hyper Training this time?

>>27276471
He says the same thing with shittier and more pointless arguments while dissing his own fans for politely disagreeing and saying nobody deserves the honor of being his subscriber, and how gettin 1600 likes means he's doing good, even with 7500 dislikes

>>27276471
He is bitching about how it's a middle finger to "real" pokemon trainers who spend hours breeding to get one pokemon with perfect IVs

then he goes off in an autistic rage about how this means that the cheaters won.

>>27276461
Oh he definitely is
Have you seen his vlogs? I'm 100% sure this guy has a couple extra chromosomes

>>27276471
He's saying every serious baseball player should make their own bats if they want to make it to the major leagues.

>>27276574
Doesn't he like barely go outside and lives in a single room, and Youtube is his only thing

>>27276626
I honestly would not be surprised if this were the case

>>27276526
Is he trying to gain subscribers through spite? I'm almost tempted to sub just to piss him off.

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So now you can raise your beloved to 100 instead of throwing away tons of their babies and he's mad?

Why are these faggots so mad that people can make Pokemon that have six perfect IVs in ten seconds rather than spend an eternity grinding for the same thing?

If the stats are the same and the moves are legit, there is nothing wrong with using it. Now that there's another way of doing it, these poketubers with inferiority complexes come on saying how it's "cheating". Sorry people don't want to play Bicycle simulator.

>>27276675

I am not sub, but I still dislike and insult him on the comments. LOL

>>27263150

>hyper training killing the game because of lack of hardwork
>you can raise 6IV ditto by HT for breed
>HT require basically more time to spend on rasing competent mon

this guy is fucking moron... holy shit

>breeding your pokémon
>being a cuck

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>Breederfags
>waste thousands of hours playing bike sim
lmao FAGGOTS

>>27276777
The worse part is he then complains it will be more cumbersome than breeding, so he doesn't even follow his own train of thought

>>27276792

oh shit ahahahaha

I wouldn't mind if an idiot bitched about this, but the fact that said idiot is trying to manipulate a bunch of (ignorant) children into agreeing with him is just disgusting. Not to mention that he literally calls his own fans stupid just because they don't fully agree with him, like his opinion is the one and only opinion to exist.

>>27276706
He also say you have to spend too much time leveling up every Pokemon. Did this furfag forgot about exp.share?

>>27276852

he's moron convinced about that he's logical and right about everything...or he's just trolling for views

I don't believe he don't understand why people hate on him... this must be troll

>>27276852
Most people don't level up to 100 anymore because it's not necessary for online battling.

I think they've forgotten how easy it is. Takes all of 1 to 2 hours.

I love how his argument has shifted now to "this is a waste of time." Alright, so it's a waste of time. Breeding isn't going anywhere. Nothing has changed then, except now perfect IV events and legends aren't a pain in the ass anymore.

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He really thinks he is some super elite trainer and this threatens the fantasy he has created in his mind.

I love that anyone can EV and IV train now.

and I love even more that this arrogant shit is losing his mind over it.

The best thing out of it is that since you don´t have to spend days for a single perfect Pokemon maybe this could encourage people to have more variety in their teams.

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>>27263150
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET SHIT ON FAGGOT

>>27276953

to be honest I'm a bit worried... I once suggested masuda to let us train pokemons further after reaching lv100 but I guess he misunderstood me...I only meant new system that will be even more challenging and will give the same shine of fully evolved mons to the all weak useless mons...

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>>27265385

Verlisify, everyone.

>>27276081
Have you ever seen his competitive movesets?

>>27265259
>>27265259
>but the blue pentagon made our all of our 5th gen pokes worthless.
I would say Gen 4/5 Pokemon are worth more now.

You all are saying "wow he's actually mad you don't have to do as much work" but I feel like the root of the matter is just in how Pokemon works.

Before IV and EV was common knowledge, the dream was breeding strong or special Pokemon ala the anime, or just the concept of having monsters of different species battling and mating on the side. Like if you ever played Monster Rancher before you knew what the internet was, you took out all yours and your parents' dumb fucking CDs to see what you could get.

IVs are supposed to be a representation of natural inborn talent. They're supposed to help define the Pokemon and give meaning to breeding. Hyper training pretty much acknowledges that breeding is a huge waste of time and that nobody should bother doing it anymore. But I think the saddest thing that can be said about it is that the concept of breeding can never be done right in a video game. It'll always be about the numbers, and effort will always be dashed by alternate methods.

>>27277019
No i don't watch his shit

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>>27263150
>mfw having actual autism, using PkHeX and seeing this

I've been having a shitty week, thanks for cheering me up a bit OP.

>>27277052
Good, ask around for them and laugh.

>>27277042
I don't give a damn about any of that, it's all about having pokemons at peak condition for competitive.

>>27277042
Natures, Egg Moves and passing down Abilities, anon. Breeding isn't worthless now, it's just less of a gigantic chore.

>>27277042
Well now you don't have to think of all the boxed babies when single pokemon get the attention this time

>>27277042

dude... this is new gen, new game, we should be mad they didn't prepared better amie or walking mons? it's the most fun in the game to have advanced interaction with your virtual poke partner [this only looks retarded, but don't we pet virtual wolves ect. in mmo games?]

we should be mad at so many things GF fucked up or never do... this one is improvement

>>27277107

they were looking literally like trash... I wonder what was GF thinking...

>>27277053
>>27277080
So how do we use these autists to better society?

>>27277042
You have to be level 100 to even Hyper Train in the first place, which pretty much means your pokemon has already reached its maximum potential through training. 'Hyper' training implies that your Pokemon is going through an even more intense training where it pushes beyond it's predetermined limits (ivs) and maximizes those as well.
It's more rewarding to actually train your pokemon in battles till they reach level 100, rather than running around in circles to play the lottery.
Breeding will still be alive early on in the game due to breeding for nature, egg moves and gender, as well as trading breedjects.

Remakes of red and blue with hyper training when

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>>27276085
I hope this kid kill himself

>>27265385
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>>27277006

Did you really reply to yourself 3 times?

>>27277271
What is this
A post for giants

>>27277081
Oh, you right. My point kinda still stands though. I'm not saying Hyper Training is a bad thing. I'm just saying that it sort of invalidates IV and EVs, which were supposed to be representations of innate affinities or natural talent. IVs and EVs were probably a horrible system to begin with, but I do see what GF was trying to do with it and feel it's somewhat of a loss for the concept of breeding.

>>27277179
You have a point in that Hyper Training fuels that original idea of having a loyal Poke Partner like Pikachu and literally making it the best it can possibly be. But I at least feel that, while IV/EVs were dumb to begin with, there should be something more to breeding than abilities, egg moves, and abilities.

>>27277115
No, you are right. But that's a separate issue. Hyper Training is fine, but I'm saying that breeding should get an overhaul. I still think the idea of breeding mons is cool, and while IV/EV concept is stupid, there should still be a bone thrown in the concept of breeding's way.

>>27277364
Breeding only matters as a hard cap on what is technically possible with infinite time, and knowing the limits you go and inject perfect but legal pokemons.

>>27277115

Amie made me realize zubat wasn't such an annoying shit and that's something. I did amie with that little fuck and he was pretty awesome with how he interacted, poking from behind me, above, ect. It was awsome.

>You should spend hundreds of hours to even get into competitive battling

Translates into:

>Wahh, I spent hundreds of hours using a terrible system to make strong Pokemon. Why do you have to change it and make it better?

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>tfw all I will have to do now is make sure a Pokemon has the correct nature

Hype as fuck. I mean there's still egg moves and hidden abilities to worry about but those are easy af to breed for and only require 1 batch of 5 eggs to guarantee one of them will have the egg moves + HA + gender you want.

Oh and fuck that autist no one cares. He should kill himself for wasting thousands of hours on breeding.

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This gen is giving the players more options and control over how they raise there pokemon this is a good thing.

no more archaic methods !!

grinding and egg hatching for hours is stupid, only idiots who want to feel hardcore in a children's game are complaining.

>>27276085
>if you disagree with me you're factually wrong

Jesus.

So... Gen 7 is now the best gen right?

>>27277364
What would your ideal breeding system be?

-Actual variations in the offspring in terms of typing/bst/aesthetic
-Another +- layer to stats like nature, a personal trait that ties into a feeding system (likes : Potatoes/dislikes :fish)
-Synergy trait that affects them during double battles based on their parents egg/group (Parent was in x egg group so it gets along well when partnered with mons from that egg group)

Eitherways when it all comes to competitive play, some mechanics that would be considered to create a 'unique experience' will just end up being arbitrary RNG that gets in the way of the perfect battle ready mon.

>>27277646
Those 3 sound good. I was pretty much only thinking about aesthetic variations, but that might be a fucking bitch to do and also look weird in contrast to all the previous Pokemon. Relationship tree bonuses, and preference to berries, poffins, etc. like you said should also be a thing.

I was also thinking that if they can make Pokemon Contests (or some other form) legitimate or decent, it could also legitimize breeding. If you make a separate stage of battle that is for autistic breeders, I feel like everybody wins in that sort of scenario.

Autistic breeding for competitive battle play was always a mistake. People want to get in the action and play with their team, preferably the ones they've been running to beat the main game, and actually stand a chance. That's the essence of the series. I don't think anybody likes the idea of making baby boxes, culling the weak, stuffing parents in a corner, and only using the one perfectly RNG generated Pokemon to make 1/6th of your team. It's a ridiculous chore, and doesn't support the feeling of the series at all. Hyper Training flips that on its head and lets you make a battle-ready mon from what you've been running, or the first guy you catch on a hunt-- all the sentiment and memories intact.

If there was maybe a tiered competitive structure tailored for autistic breeders, I feel like that could be a good thing that everyone can benefit from. Even something as simple as aesthetic variation could make people battling feel good about breeding and enjoy the RNG, instead of trying to game the RNG into making a perfect mon like they are required to in order to play competitive battling. Of course the system encourages cheating, it's retarded RNG.

>>27277887
I feel like when approaching competitive play, things should be as accessible as possible.
Ideally everything should be available from the start for every player. When I play a Moba like Dota 2 I should be able to buy everything from the shop (if I have farmed enough gold)
When I play a fighting game I should have every special move available to me (provided I have the execution)
Pokemon is a special case because you have this preparation aspect to it, raising and breeding your own monsters that you eventually use in a competitive setting, basically you have to play singleplayer in order to get into multiplayer. That's usually seen as a barrier, but raising your Pokemon can be a fun experience and you have a greater attachment to them when using them in multiplayer. This process should be as streamlined as possible.
I feel like Pokemon was just never designed to be a proper competitive game. Some Pokemon were made to be weak and other strong, some are just straight up gimmicks. Competitive play was probably just envisioned to be a brawl between two kids favourites or in-game team, not for autistic manchildren to grind out optimized specimens to put into battle.

>>27263150
I'm a bikefag, I like breeding it's fun for me, but if you wanna gen pokemon I really don't give a shit. I don't get people who are super elitist about this, yeah it's cheating but in the end result they don't get much more of an advantage other than more time saved. Just get your pokemon however you want and ignore people like this.

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>>27278060
Of course it wasn't meant to be competitive. We know this with how GF sees IV/EVs. But people do treat it competitively, and the genre lends itself to min-maxing. And there's obviously no contention here, but making tedious breeding a way to maximize the stats for each and every one of your team members was a retarded idea.

If breeding had more depth and had meaning in something other than just battle though, it'd be a good concept that is executed well, instead of how it is now just being an awful chore that many people would rather not do.

>>27278426
Yeah, I think breeding having a minor influence on competitive while having a greater implication on singleplayer or a more casual mode, or one that doesn't take into account the stats that matter so much in competitive. It's a shame no other game has stepped up to try and have a go at it, and lived.

>GIVING JOJO THE DOG FACED BOY FREE V(you)S
THIS GUY IS AN INSULT TO BOTH BREEDERFAGS AND CAPS LOCK.

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I felt like quoting someone from the comment section to show what his fans are like:

>That just gives the go ahead for hackers to cheat in the pokemon without questioning if it was legitimate since there is now a way to get 6 IV pokemon easily instead of punishing hackers

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>>27263150
>GAME FREAK GAVE LEGIT PLAYERS THE MIDDLE FINGER BY INVALIDATING THEIR TIME INVESTMENT

This is more of a godsend for legit players come S/M.

This guy has to be the most short-sighted furfag of all time.

>>27263150
Breedtards and Bikefags BTFO.
Verlisify has ok / good tactics but is a giant sperg. Any better Poketubers out there or do they all have autism?

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>>27279385
>Verlisify
>good tactics

Surely there must be a suicidal anon with nothing to lose. It's not like it would be hard to hunt this furfag down considering how people advertise themselves these days.

>>27279507
I would rather him live to see the mistake he's become. Death would be too good for autists like him.

>it's so unnecessary
>...
>that it's not even necessary
this guy is golden

>>27279665
Agreed. I'd rather him live a miserable, sad, lonely life. Bonus points if he ends up homeless.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYPL9qOp9o

The furfag won't stop!

>>27279665

It's not just about making him suffer, it's about allowing the Pokemon community to be free from his existence.

>>27280097
I have adblock but do views help him?

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He is what I like to call a breedfag. To him, Pokémon is the best bicycle simulator ever

>>27276085
He really needs to down a bottle of base liquids

>>27279665
Calling him an autist is an insult to autism.

>>27269038
No he's a Jew furfag. We hate Smogon for the meme, and he hates it for the Clickbait money.

>>27276999
I remember that thread, I made some alternate suggestions.
I'm happy with this system too.

>>27280550
Most of the earnings for a Youtube channel come from the ads. You will still give him a bit of money for the view and possibly interaction (if you decide to comment or like the video), but it's not that much.

I don't get how someone can enjoy holding Left for countless hours, doing nothing different, nothing challenging at all. Or holding Up if you're in Hoenn. Holding a direction down isn't a game, it's a chore.

>>27280097
>he thinks biking simulator is effort

>>27276085
>25:00 Video

FUGGG....can I get the TLDR? That faggot doesn't deserve my time.

>>27282379
He thinks that making IV training easier is somehow means that the hackers got the upper hand and that breeders wasted their times on bike simulator because ivs are easier.
A lot of people called him on his bullshit and he got pissy with the classic "my opinion is a fact and who ever disagrees with me is wrong.
And he even said that the subscribers that disagrees with him are worthless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpdZwuyEmRk

Ode to Verlis

>>27279385
I think a few like Shady and aDrive are generally fine. Shady was even an official VGC Commentator until he decided to keep up some popular series instead of removing them at Nintendo's demand.

>>27283281
>all the comment wars on 4chan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYPL9qOp9o
It gets worse.

>>27283281
Amen.

>>27263150
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/verlis

http://verliswolf.deviantart.com


Who's in the mood for a raid? Who's in the mood to do some digging and see if you can find something incriminating?

Warning: You will see SFW yiff and autism if you proceed.

>>27285532

So much cringe.
now I have to wash my eyes with soap.

>>27286040
Expose the cringe to the world. Let his fans know what kind of "man" they worship.

...some of them probably already know.

Some others might know, but want to deny it.

>>27285532
https://furrymap.net/
If you can find him on the map I'll help you

>>27286339
No luck....that said I didn't look very hard.

Put the list of markers in alphabetical order, checked the V's...nothing.

>>27266160
THIS SHIT.

Finally my shiny bros with good natures but shit IV's can now join me. now we can actually breed for shinies and just worry about nature

>>27263150
MUH e-sports ruined
can competive games just die already

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>>27285532
>http://www.furaffinity.net/user/verlis
Fuck digging, just photoshop some shit about him hating muslims and supporting trump or some shit. With the election train in full swing it will generate a lot of momentum.

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>>27286549
#pokemonlivesmatter

>>27286648
As autistic as that is, it will probably work. Spam that shit in his videos

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>>27285532
Kek

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>>27286808
i might look a pokemon porn but atleast i keep it to myself and don't make a animal version of myself.

>have hundreds of Pokemon dating back to gen 3
>have event mons dating back to 2008
>now can all be used competitively if they have a good nature

Fuck yea m8, my bros are useful

I have a Hasty shiny Rayquaza I got from soul silver that can now be truly OP.

>>27268981
is xhe the ultimate clickbait and reverse psychology shill? even tyranitar tube and smogon cocksucker tubers can't compete with xhim

>>27276526
>real pokemon trainers are actually positively affected by this because can cut the redundant ivs breeding and stop at nature, abilities and egg moves and shinies that already take enough time to breed
>somehow they are given a fuck you from game freak

>>27263150
>MUH HACKERS
>MUH PARANOIA
>NO, FUCK THE HACKERS XD. THERE SHOULD BE 400 ARBITRARY SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO FUCK OVER HACKERS, WHO CARES ABOUT THE END RESUALT ON THE AVERAGE PLAYER, FUCK THE HACKERS BY ANY MEANS NECISAIRY
which hacker killed his child, i mean jesus fucking christ.
i was suprised when comments weren't dissabled for this video.

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>>27263150
TOP KEK

TEAM INSTINCT ON SUICIDE WATCH.

>>27263150
>/vp/ falling for the clickbait
not even surprised
you realize he gets attention thanks to controversial titles and shit, don't you?

he might be the OP of this thread as well

ain't gonna click a single video

his channel is mostly for furries and children
why would you visit it in the first place and give him more casual subscribers and youtube bucks?

seriously
it takes a vid list and its thumbnail video gallery to see his channel is clickbait like most of youtuber ones

why is /vp/ so stupid?

what a fucking baby

>>27263150
>implying bottle caps won't be expensive as fuck
>grinding all the way to level 100 with no secret bases
>implying hackers wouldn't just gen tons of bottle caps

>>27292690
>implying bottle caps won't be expensive as fuck
Maybe you can farm Wimpods to get them. They collect a lot of trash.

>Mad because people hack perfect legendary Pokemon

Sure, they could perfect legendaries and people who didn't hack couldn't.

BUT NOW THEY CAN. ANYONE CAN. WHY IS HE MAD?

>>27281097
Wow. You can really tell that he loves and respects his fans.

>>27281097
He's calling someone ELSE spoiled children? He's the one throwing a fit because a game he likes makes its own decisions.

>>27281097

Reminder that down voting comments on YouTube doesn't work.

>>27292728
Holy shit, that's genius. I think that could genuinely be a thing. Same with Murkrow, maybe, since it also collects shiny things.

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>>27263287
Scalefags > Furfags

The only complaint I have about this system is that there will be no more useful Pokemon deposited into Wonder Trade.

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>>27294540
Excellent taste.

>>27296395
Shouldn't be too much of an issue, breeding is still important

>>27272983
>pokemon youtube incel infighting
I didn't know there was this much cancer out there

>>27267238
>We still have to soft reset for Natures though

Can't you use Synchronize for that?

>>27277042
>Before IV and EV was common knowledge, the dream was breeding strong or special Pokemon ala the anime

And how exactly would you know if they were strong without IVs?

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Ok, serious question: I'm not denying Hyper Training is anything less than awesome and needd, but don't you think that having already all the necessary stuff to breed it will still be much quicker than raising a pokemon till lv 100? For istance, in X I could breed the average pokemon and having it battle ready at level 50 in half hour. It's good to have Hyper Training, especially for particular IV spreads and hidden power, but for me I don't think it will be that big of a life changer.

>>27294540
I'm not even a scalefag and I agree. Fur is gross.

>>27263150
Can we raid this faggot's youtube, twitter, and furfannity accounts, please? I'm tired of the whiney cunt's shit. He's a tumor on the ass of the pokemon fandom.

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>>27285532
>>27297081
Raiding is against the rules on 4chan.

>>27297041
i kinda like the fact that gives one more option to making a team.

Werster hates hyper training as well. I'm so conflicted.

>>27297110
I don't give a shit. Verlisify has to be stopped.

>>27297041
It'll be faster than SR'ing legends, and most importantly, it'll allow the team you grew attached to ingame to actually be good competitively (provided they have the right nature). That's all I care about.

Pretty fucking hypocritical to see a dude that claimed to love pokémon, that pokémon was his life and ranting about the "spirit of pokémon" throw an autistic bitchfit over a feature that allows just that. You don't have to box your bros anymore. Your starter can potentially get you to Worlds. If that's not the "spirit of pokémon", I don't know what is.

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>>27297192
>It'll be faster than SR'ing legends, and most importantly, it'll allow the team you grew attached to ingame to actually be good competitively (provided they have the right nature).

wow, those are two things I hadn't considered

Catfish his nudes.

>>27294540
I put scalefage into the same category as furfags
because I like both

>>27297170
What did he say?

He's a bit of a nostalgiafag though and has admitted he's not even excited for SM in the first place

>>27297192
>the team you grew attached to ingame

What about EVs? You can't exactly get a perfect spread during the main story.

>>27294540

That artist has done a TON of fart porn

>>27297271
my favorite is human male on female anthro

>>27297336
You've always been able to reset your EVs since gen 3 with berries. Gen 5 made it even easier with the hairdresser in Join Avenue. In Gen 6 you can get an instant reset from a single training bag.

Even in super training doesn't make a return, It's pretty likely well have another way to reset EVs.

>>27297336
just use a reset bag and ev train them, dude. if you're autistic enough you might do it at the very beginning of the game and break it completely

>>27297336
>You can't exactly get a perfect spread during the main story

Super Training is almost certainly coming back for SM is Amie is and if we're getting a new "Hyper Training." It's not as efficient as horde training but you can do it almost immediately.

>>27263150

He says that breeding is completely useless, but isn't it the only way to get certain moves for certain Pokemon?

>>27297406
>>27297417

you can get an instant reset from a single training bag
>reset bag
Holy shit, I played X and Y and I didn't even know they existed. Just how rare are those things?

>>27263150

>2:29

HEY ASSHOLE, WANNA HANDLE YOUR SHIT?

>>27297454
It is. This fag acts outraged for a living, don't put any stock into what he says.

It's hilarious that he called Tamashii out for being an sjw when he acts the part to a T.

>>27297483
Uncommon, but not terribly rare.

>>27297454
ORAS let you use Dexnav, and while I'm sure it won't come back because why would anything nice happen, there might be a new way to get egg moves from wild Pokémon.

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>>27263150
What the fuck? I used to agree with this guy and haven't watched him in a long time, and this is what he's up to? Bitching and furfaggotry?

>>27297533
Dexnav mons don't get more than one egg move, iirc, so even if we get something like that, breeding still won't be irrelevant.

I still don't see a downside to Hyper Training. I know people always find a way to bitch about anything, but this is legit baffling.

>>27297483
>Holy shit, I played X and Y and I didn't even know they existed. Just how rare are those things?
depends. It might take a while to get one, but in ten minutes you're definitely going to get one, probably more. just tap non stop while doing something else