>there are people on this board right now that think gen 5

>>27258798
>literally every bird type got fucked over
yeah, models are SO much better

>>27258798
Overall, I prefer the models, but I feel like a handful of pokémon got fucked by them.

Purrloin and Tropius fags are gonna sperg out.

>>27258883
>>27258882
>>27258849
/thread

>>27258849
>wahhh I don't like how it looks the way it's actually supposed to!
>>27258882
>rather having birds stand on the ground

>>27258884
That's how unovabortions are naturally. They only know how to cherrypick counter arguments.

>>27258849
>Gen 5
Purrloin is cool, I think I'll use one.
>Gen 6
Get the fuck away from me.

>>27258965
>gens 1-4
These Pokemon are cool, I think I'll use one.
>gen 5
Get the fuck away from me.
>FTFY

>>27258927
Do you seriously think Purrloin is supposed to look like furry fanart? It should of stayed in the gen 5 pose, not stand up like a retard.

>>27258884
And elektross, and all flying types, and hippowdon

>>27258999
Nice one Steven Spergberg.

>>27259000
Do you seriously think it would be represented that way in every other form of media if it wasn't supposed to be that way?

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>>27258927
Oh ok, I guess having birds levitate is better. your'e right. The gen 3 sprite has nothing on this.

>>27259037
Again, would you rather have something that's clearly meant to fly be modeled standing on the ground?

>>27258849
Op is aways a fag
Second poster is always right.

>>27258849
This. If nothing else it completely ruined Purrloin.

>>27259087
I'd take GOOD flying models over land based birds, but the flying models suck dick. The problem is not that they're flying, its the static, ugly levitation that they gave all the flying pokemon that sucks, you trog.

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>>27259087
No, of course not. Just look at this doofus. I much prefer the one where hes just levitating. I mean, alot of people don't like that but if you just PRETEND they're moving through the air it looks alot better.
:)

>>27259134
How about taking a look at how birds work in real life? Are they constantly flapping their wings when they're flying?

>>27259229
When they don't have wind to propel them up they do you fucking idiot. Do you know how birds get off the ground, or did your inbred family not teach you that?

>>27259229
Are real birds constantly hovering in one spot?

>>27259278
>when they get off the ground
They're already in the air you raging autist.
>>27259282
I realize this is probably bait, but I'll bite. No, they don't hover anon, they glide.

>>27259345
Thats the problem. Theyre animated like theyre gliding, but theyre locked in one spot. so it looks like theyre hovering retardedly.
The incredibly obvious solution is to have them on the ground, and fly up when they attack.

>>27259345
Boy is you thick? A bird can not hover in place without either significant, constant wind or flapping its wings constantly. Pidgeot, charizad and a couple other pokemon flap and they look good, but Skarmory, Xatu and a host of other flying types just sorta float there, like they're flying in a constant wind tunnel. It looks awful when they model the bird as if its in full speed flight and then it just sits there, doing nothing.

>>27259412
>The incredibly obvious solution is to have them on the ground, and fly up when they attack.
Then how do you explain them being invulnerable to ground type?
>>27259445
So you want the models to be constantly moving around instead of being in a fixed position like every other model? Good thing you're not a game designer.

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>>27259508
Well now you're not even trying. Its no fun if you don't put effort into it.

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>>27259508

>>27259567
>I don't have an argument so I'm just going to call bait!

>>27259508
They fly up when ground attacks are made, duh

>>27259615
Yep, you caught me. Here's your (you), I was only pretending, etc.

>>27258849
It fucked Persian as well, but it's still better overall if only because Gen V's zooming and terrible animations were worse than static sprites.

>>27259774
Now to be fair, Archeops' stupid fucking flapping is pretty cute.

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>>27258927
You're a retard. If something looks better on the ground, of course I'd rather have it on the ground.

>>27258798
models just don't look like pokemon should to me.
I always liked them as pixelated sprites. That's why I'm having trouble getting into the new gens

>>27259774
Archeops looked exactly how I'd expect it to look in Gen VI. The animation was great.

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>>27259774
>gen 5: cool and majestic

>gen 6: "I'M FUCKING RETARDED"

Sprites were cool

>>27260000
This one kinda makes sense, he's a penguin, he's supposed to be fat, it's just that his pose its so boring and stoic

>arguing over subjective designs
ehh

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The 3D model looks off for some reason.

>>27260066
Everything is subjective, what do you want from us?

>>27260068
This one almost changed the design of the pokemon entirely, in gen 5 Haxorus looked slim, athletic, fit and ready to fuck any nigger up his way, in gen 6 he looks sad, he looks depressed and fat, why is this allowed?

>>27260068
They shrunk the neck but made the tail and legs longer. Honestly I like it more but I can see why people wouldn't.

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I gotta be honest. The sprite looks much more badass.

>>27260068
The head is inaccurate to the sprite...

>>27260068
>arms have invisble watermelons syndrome
>not to mention the arms are a fucking paper towel roll forearm and a ball for the elbow
>legs aren't as crouched
>fatter tail
>color is washed out
>everything from the knees up looks like they just slid it up, except for the head

>>27260136
>gen 5: imposing, badass, threatening, do not mess with this pokemon

>gen 6: "LOOK MOM I CAN HOVER AROUND!! ARE YOU LOOKING :-D?"

Some are way better and make me want to actually use the pokemon more

some were pretty cringe worthy (Lugia)

>>27260211
>gen 5: scary golem-like monster, intimidating as fuck with those claws and red eyes

>gen 6: ugly midget with a really bad afro

WHY IS HIS HEAD SO LOW AND SQUASHED OUT THIS IS INSULTING

>>27258927
It's a cat mate, they tend to stay sitting down. And I think he meant he'd rather have birds actually flapping their wings instead of awkwardly hovering

>tropius.gif

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Less intimidating syndrome

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>>27260263

>>27260201
I mean to be fair. like to be really fair here..
he still looks like a pancake with stubby legs and a toopthpick head in both

>>27260281
>fat in gen 5 but not in gen 6
i don't understand this, is the gen 6 syndrome but in reverse
Meh this is one is not as good as gen 5, but the model in gen 6 actually looks pretty decent

>>27260321
gen 5's looks legit angry and bout to charge in saying "HOLD THE FUCK UP"
gen 6 model looks like it wants a hug

>>27260000
Old Empoleon was fucking amazing, new Empoleon, while still good, less intimidating and badass.

>>27260321
>gen 5: legendary creature from the seas, imposing, intimidating, eyes of a serious fucking threat, if you encounter this pokemon you have a challenge in front of you

>gen 6: "huRR WHY ARE MY HANDS SO BIG XD? COME GET A HUG BROTHER" looks absolutely retarded and fat as fuck compared to the slim beast he was in previous gens AND THAT HEAD

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It's not the same without the sand.

>>27260339
It's true, but he looks like something that shouldn't be flying, he looks so awkward hovering around, he was better on the ground

>>27260321
I think i finally got it. It's always had a little bit of a belly but the wings and head look bigger and better in the sprite i think

>>27260269
So this is the new "gold vs silver" meme right? People vastly exaggerate the differences and attribute huge amounts of import to tiny things like claw size or whatever.

>>27260367
meh this one is decent, but i hate how all the colors of the models are washed out, how didn't i noticed this while playing X/Y

>>27260367
Ah see this is a good example, I loved this model

>>27260412
Holy fuck new Hippodown looks bad.

>>27260321
>who you calling pinhead?

>>27260321
See, i don't fucking understand this one, in previous gens he was always fucking flying and that made sense, but in gen 6 they made him stand upwards and he LOOKS FUCKING RETARDED HOLY SHIT WHY THEY DID DO THAT

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Adding insult to injury

>>27260474
This one is kinda hilarious though.

>>27260412
>gen 5: holy fuck this giant hipo is going to kill me with an earthquake with the force to destroy the fucking planet and if i try to escape he'll chase me underground till the end of the universe

>gen 6: sad hippo bear, looks really tired, sleepy and done with his life, harmless, this thing can't shake the ground not even a little no matter how hard he tries

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Scyther got neutered

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Coiling the tail actually makes a difference

>>27259820
why did salamence change that much from gen 3 to 4??? Its occipital is totally different

>>27260427
It's not a joke, the X/Y models are really mediocre, there are some exceptions but they all look very boring and watered down, there's no cool poses like in previous gens and i have no hope for future pokemon games because they won't make new models for 10-15 years.

Look at golem's claws! why are they so tiny?! look at haxorus! he looks so fat! he looks like he'll never fucking chase any prey because of his fat body!

>>27260474
10/10 not gonna say anything about this one

>>27260521
This model is not bad, it's just a really boring pose, look at him in gen 5, he looks so cool, in gen 6 he looks "ok"

>>27260427
>implying Silver isn't better than Gold

sprites>models
models and 3d games just don't look like how a pokemon game should

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I know Hitmontop spins on its head for attacking animations but still, it should never be standing upright.

>>27260543
>gen 5: poisonous snake ready to poison and strangle anyone who stands before him

>gen 6: boring giant pacifist snake that looks like a bored puppy, looks drained of any poison, i'd be surprised if this think could bit anybody

My biggest problem with this one are the colors

>>27260680
Part of the art of capoeira, which is part of its fighting style and why its fighting type. Just gonna throw that out there before the autists go berserk for someone not knowing every little detail on all pokemon.

>>27260614
Meh this one is decent, if the colors weren't as washed he would look miles better

>>27260727
My #1 issue with models compared to their previous gen sprites is how washed out the colors look. Charizard and Arbok in this thread are good examples.

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The 3D Model literally has an umbilical cord sticking out of its head. That's not how dream gas works.

>>27260680
>gen 5: experienced capoeira master true to his name he uses his dangerous spin techniques to anihilate his opponents.

>gen 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yca2BCwAnBQ

woah there's someone with a good opinion on this board?

>>27260779
The gas looks solid and disgusting, i hate it, i feel most pokemon that weren't in the kalos regional pokedexes were rushed and their models didn't had as much detail and were just there because they had to exist.
If they made Gastly look like a gas pokemon why couldn't they make this thing right?

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The udders bounce.

>>27260779
I don't get why didn't they make it transparent, can't they do that?

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>>27260891
The only good thing to come out of gen 6 with Poliwrath is it got a boost in attack.

>>27260840
I actually like Miltank's model. They bounced in Stadium 2 as well.

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>>27259087
There's a difference between flying and just hovering there with stiff wings, you know.

>>27260840
This one is cute, i have no real complains.

>>27260891
Surprisingly he looks just as intimidating as previous gens, i guess poliwrath doesn't suffers much from being fattened for gen 6 like the other pokemon did, still politoad is better

>>27259134
>static, ugly levitation
You realize they have animations ingame, right?

>>27259774
Archeops is supposed to not be able to fly properly

>>27260614
I miss that deep purple.

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I like how all of these pro-sprite images aren't animated. Probably because of how fucking bad they looked.

>>27260068
>Doesn't have retarded chicken legs.
>Torso is bigger
>Arms are bigger
>Thicker tail
>Smaller Neck

How can anyone dislike the 3D model? The only change that could be considered worse is the blades being shorter

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>>27260999
Let's compare

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>>27261043
vs this

>>27258849
This.

>>27261019
If you have the patience to combine two separate gifs into one gif, be my guest

>>27261077
Then fucking post them separately, they're tiny files. Unless you are deliberately trying to mislead people with the static images.

>>27261124
You seem way too hung up about this.

>>27261019
Post lugia's 3D model then

>>27260876
I know nothing about coding, but I imagine they could if they just made the textures on the cloud set to be transparent.

>>27261124
A direct side-by-side comparison is better. I'm not here to compare animations but just the general appearance of the sprite/model. Moreover, why are you putting this responsibility on me? Do it yourself then if you want to compare animations.

Honestly, the majority of the models are just fine (with some exceptions, like Musharna). The issue is that the animations for them are so mundane and lifeless. I would like to think that it's because they had to model and animate 700+ Pokemon along with alternate forms that they ended up skimping on the lower priority ones (re: not new, not in Kalos, and no megas). Wishful thinking would be that they improve for SM, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

>>27260999
10/10 model too

>>27261338
That's what happened, they had 700 models to make and they couldn't give the proper deserved detail to all of them.
It's a shame honestly, what we got was 700 decent models with mediocre static animation, i think the animation was more important than how the models looked, good animation makes them interesting and nice to look at.

I can only think of less than ten out of 700 models in x/y with good animation.

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>>27261158
You are correct.

>>27261179
Sure thing. I was just using Lugia to show how sprites look fine still, but the animations are horrendous.

>>27261209
You're the one making the argument that the sprites are better, and you're doing it with misleading comparisons.

>>27261562
>all of the flying mons except the gliding ones
>most have good attacking animations
that's more than 10 right there

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>>27261575
HE SHOULDN'T BE STANDING UPWARDSS FUCK

>>27261619
Give specific examples or bust

>>27261575
>I'm not here to compare animations but just the general appearance of the sprite/model.

And a bit of my own subjective opinion because specific 3D models are utter garbage, animated or not

>>27261731
You can say a sprite looks better, but they're supposed to be animated. You can't just ignore the animation. Zekrom's sprite looks fine, but then it fidgets around ingame and it looks terrible.

>>27260412
>>27260412
Literally thought this was the prevo

>>27258882
>>27260779
>>27262019
Stop with this word already!

>>27260136
I prefer orange and blue salamence.

>>27262090
It's literally no big deal.

Sprites are much better though

>>27261043
>>27261060
One of the few that got much much better

>>27260891
I was just disappointed he doesn't flex like he did in the stadium games

>>27261019
>>27261575
But Lugia's model still looks worse.

I always dreamed with 3D models like Stadium since Gen I. I'm happy the trasintion finally happened, but we need to be honest that mostly of the models from Gen VI are shit. I hope we finally get good looking models on the next console.

>>27260680
I like because it does capoeira positions.

>>27259678
This. The sprites looked were so dang pixalated and jaggy.

Crystal and Emerald had the right idea with just having an animated intro.