Lotta talk about Pokemon designs lately. Someone will say x design is bad, then someone else will say "fuck you x design is good because it's based off of whatever"
I feel like concept is not a good factor of a design's quality. Here's an empty chart. I'll post some examples in a second.
Examples. I wasn't sure on how to come up with the ones on the bottom left, but I guess designs that are "safe", eg "boring" "vanilla" "literally my mom's x" but are not bad designs would work better than the examples I put in there. I think Garbodor is a perfect example of bad concept good execution, though.
I also do not dislike Rotom nor its formes but I do dislike everything else in upper right.
Will bump once and then I'll fuck off if the thread dies again.
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>>27225181
I've always tried to think about how Probopass could be executed better, but aside from removing the mustache I have no idea how to execute it better. I don't know how its execution is supposed to be awful at all. I agree on the rest of them though.
>>27226255
>stoutland
>ferrothorn
>bad
nah
>>27226255
Much better than my example. I don't necessarily agree with some of them but I get the gist of it better.
>>27226608
I feel like Probopass is just far too ugly. I get it, pocket monsters can be ugly. I like ugly mons. But Probopass is just TOO ugly. I can't really put into words why I love Venusaur and Garchomp to death, two ugly Pokemon, but hate Probopass.
>>27227507
If you can't put it into words then it's not really bad execution. Also the difference with Venusaur and Garchomp is that they're a monstrous ugly instead of an odd design.
Honestly I'm just sick of people saying shit like Probopass deserves to be retconned for having a mustache.
>>27227751
Yeah, the monstrously ugly thing is it.
I'm just shit with expressing myself, man. I get why Probopass looks the way it does. It's a very clever design. But it still isn't a good design, in my eyes.
>>27227773
Don't feel too bad, I'm probably worse than you at it.
Honestly it's just cause you don't like the oddball designs, The clever things about Probopass don't really seem to be things making it uglier, like how it's a compass when seen from above, for example. Honestly if you ask me the very idea of a Pokemon being a giant nose grosses you out and there was no changing that.
I'm willing to defend my position on all of these.
>>27228341
How is Torterra a bad concept?
>>27228389
"Oh hey, let's make our grass starter a reptile with a plant on it's back!"
Is this Venusaur or Torterra?
I like Torterra more than Venu tho
>>27228523
Venusaur is a reptile/amphibian with a plant on its back.
Torterra is based on the mythology of the world being carried by a turtle.
>>27228523
And once again a /vp/ anon understands nothing about creativity and design. Completely and utterly incapable of seeing things beyond their ignorance.
Rate mate
>>27225181
>garbodor
>bad concept
>but it's a good execution
I want Unovabortions to leave this thread.