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Are there any OU mons that can outspeed talonflame without

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Are there any OU mons that can outspeed talonflame without caring a scarf?
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Dragonite
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>caring
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>>27063997
>>27064006

Quick Attack Mega Lop
Feint Mega Pinsir
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>I want to outspeed a fast mon with priority on his powerful STAB move

Outspeeding isn't the only way to counter a mon
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>>27064035
you know mega pinsir gets quick attack right
but talonflame is faster anyways
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>Using OU

Shell Smash Omastar
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>>27064036
>>27064051
This pokemon is so OP its not even a joke. I cant wait until bruxish comes out and fucks this piece of shit up
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>outspeed a priority move

You have to get defense or predict a talonflame, trying to outspeed it only makes you more vulnerable.
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>>27064098
>>27063997
Talonflame dies to any 100+ neutral attacks, my beloved Analytic Porygon2 can take any Brave Birds without any problems and proceed to kill the Bravest of the Birds with a Discharge, if it survives then there's a chance it gets paralyzed.
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>>27064035
Am I the only one that use Quick Attack instead of Fake Out on Mega Lopunny?
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>>27064191
>talonflame bulks up
>talonflame sword dances
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>>27063997
You don't need t outspeed if you can hit like a truck and have high defences.
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>>27064325
what poke do i need
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>>27064376
Is there anything in your desired tier that resists smogonborbs stabs and has the aforementioned stats?

Also like >>27064191 said, porygon2 is pretty good.
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>>27064376
two words: bulky water
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>>27064434
I also would like something that fuck up Scizor
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>>27064540
play heatran
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>>27064557
no legendaries or psuedo pls
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>>27064590
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>>27064590
not a legendary or a pseudo
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The bestest counter ever is Rotom Heat.
Resists both stabs like a champ and kills it with ease with Thunderbolt/Discharge.
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>>27064218
>it's another episode of "this Pokémon has 20 move slots"
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>>27064051
You know Feint is a higher priority than Quick Attack and Gale Wings Brave Bird, right?
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>>27064657
>Not Rotom Wash
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>>27064725
I said bestest.
Wash can be burned on the switch and then stalled out. It mostly depends on the rest of your team, but both are worth a spot.
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>>27064688
no its not faster than talon
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>>27064725
Doesn't resist Burn, U-Turn, or the incredibly rare Grass-type Natural Gift.
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>>27064783
Well it's a fact that it is.
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>>27064685
Talonflame has a boosting move almost as often as it has Brave Bird.
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