Working on a darker monster tamer/breeder inspired by Pokemon

>Any parts of the pokemon breeding system you find limiting?
IVs

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>>26949629
But you do like EVs?

I know it's important for every monster to be unique - feel like it's your own, so I'm trying to balance removing RNG shenanigans while still not having every monster of a species identical.

I just know that the whole reason people carry their pokemon across the gens is because it's unique - yours.

>>26949387

The entire Pokemon breeding system is heavily limiting and annoyingly random. You should definitely take DQM as your main inspiration, breeding in those games was entirely deterministic, you always knew what you were going to get out of the egg (except when breeding rare monsters for the first time.) The stats of the babies were always IIRC half the average of the parents, and there was no random factor in their growths. Compare that to Pokemon's heavily obfuscated mess where the baby is at the whims of the RNG and you need to hatch dozens of eggs to get one acceptable 'mon. And to even find out it's good you have to suss out tons of hidden numbers. It's ridiculous.

Take any ideas from Pokemon's breeding you find interesting, but use DQM as a skeleton. It's a much deeper and more satisfying system overall. Breeding in Pokemon has always felt like an afterthought.

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>>26949709
Thanks anon, that makes sense.

I'm trying to put in as many options for breeding and fusion (items, settings, configurations) so you can entirely control the breeding process.

In this game the learnsets, stats, skills, typing are all passed down. When you breed Monsters they mix, creating a new species.

just as an example, on the far-left here is the base Monster and the right forms will be forms the offspring takes depending on the other parent. The palette is also pulled from the other parent so you can see things can get fairly diverse.

>>26949783

Sounds a lot like the system in Jade Cocoon. Dunno if you've ever played that game but you should, it's short and easy but it's another game with a heavy focus on the breeding system.

Also your spritework is very nice, looks like a professional GBC game.

>>26949905
Yeah, I keep hearing of Jade Cocoon I really do have to play it.

Thanks! I do half the monster designs and another team member does the other half (including that one). He's better than me but I'm really glad to have him on-board.

I feel like hardcore monster breeder genre fans are niche - most of the recent DQM didn't even come over to north america, but I'm ok with a small niche fanbase, I'd rather work to please a niche than try to appeal to everyone.

>>26949974
>most of the recent DQM didn't even come over to north america

Don't remind me, I might have a rage aneurysm.

One suggestion I have is an item or something that lets you keep a monster's original appearance- say I want to breed Chain Chomp Eel up there to get new moves or better stats, but don't want to lose his rugged good looks. I could slap a Neverstone on him and the baby would come out looking the same. Maybe have two separate items- one for keeping the exact appearance, and one to only change the palette. Both should be easy to implement.

One of the best things about DQM was how you could breed any random shitmon into a wrecking machine if you were dedicated. You should be able to do the same in this.

>>26949387
Reminds me of those custom monster cards from that one Yu-Gi-Oh! game on the GBC.

>>26949387
any particular way to account for the time-intensive aspects? Are you going to have to wait a day for them to breed, can you speed it up (like # of steps), etc.? Or is it all instant?

This seems pretty tight btw, I really dig the art

>>26950200
Yes, yes, that's very good.

Count on it!

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>>26950338
Thanks man!

Here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhp2V8g9yho

There's something fairly interesting (in my biased opinion of course), you can breed two monsters together to get an Egg that will hatch into a level 4 monster, or, if you're a very serious breeder you can turn up the heater in the breeding room and you get an embryo instead.

The embryo is only level 1 and can't fight (it will die if it gets hit so you have to level it up for it to turn into it's real self) but it lets you check palette/moves/stats/typing without having to wait for an egg to hatch.

You can also do fusion, so if you breed a level 20 and a level 30 you'll get a combined level 25 monster. The tradeoff of course is that you lose both parents - unlike breeding.

You can fuse/get an egg instantly, still working out how long an egg should take. I want it to be fast though, I love breeding.

>>26950392
this looks awesome, i'm guessing you've played dqm?

I really, REALLY like these, anon. They remind me of Telefang a bit.

>>26950392
Are the fusions procedural my generated

>>26950799
Are the fusions procedurely generated*

>>26950392
Hey, it might not be me, but the transparent floating hearts and the spinning sparkles really 'break' the style of the game for me. I think it would benefit from more "classic" looking particles.

>>26950757
I am! I grew up on Gen 2 and DQM 2. I've been obsessed with monster taming/breeding since.

which is your favorite?

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>>26950785
Thank you man! Have some more:

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>>26950799
No, they're very intentional. I toyed with procedural early on but I found it limiting. The creatures created were usually generic, and even if they weren't they had very generic poses, you know what I mean? In a 3D world you could better pose things but with spriting everything has to be intentional.

>>26950893
I want to train 1 and 3

Also make a lot of breedable traits. I always liked fact you have uniqye monster traits but then you could breed them on other monsters

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>>26950817
I agree. That's not in-game, I had to whip that up quick for the trailer. The breeding and fusion are planned out and ready programming-wise, but they aren't implemented visually yet.

>>26950919
Exaple: There is a monster that lives in Lava so it has Fireproof skin trait
Breeding it with other monster have 30% that this trait will end on the child.
Of course later you can obtain traits and ityems that boost that chance

>>26950919
Do you mean like attacks, or abilities? Or just stats in general?

Here are the types:

Psycho
Brute
Will
Relentless
Unstable

It's a bit simpler rocks-paper-scissors than pokemon, but I feel like it works.

>>26950954
Ah, yeah, Abilities are called Quirks in this, and you can pass down any of them.

Any aspect you find on one monster attack, stats, appearance, quirks can be bred onto any other monster.

>>26949387
Are their large monsters or are they mostly around 5ft and under?

>>26950965
I always think abilities and natures should be two different things, and personaly I hate how badly natures are pictured and used in Pokemon. I wish the natures comletly changed the style of monster gameplay - because obviously lazy monster should be much different than brave one. They could have few attacks that could be learned JUST by having a that nature - Like only Lazy mon can be find with Slack off move.


Keep up good work, and dont forget about minigames as well!

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>>26950995

upper-left is about 10 ft

upper-right is 11-12ft (and drowns people for fun)

And the bottom is, well massive. Haven't thought about a concrete number. He's at least 500ft long as is responsible for "The Bloop".

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>>26951041
Like the casino? Hm, to be honest I haven't even thought about that yet. Gives me something to chew on.

>>26951074
Naah more gameplay and lore flavored games, like basic tower defence you can play to boost your crops grow, or Protect the egg minigame that will asure you will get Good monster a and not currupted one

>>26951193
Interesting. Also, there's an in-game tamogatchi you can download a non-party monster onto. Could be some minigames on that too.

It just gives them more exp with each step, kinda like a poke-walker.

>>26950392
that continent at the beginning like.. doesn't look much like a continent.
More like a big green.. thing.
Everything else looks boss.

The music in that trailer and some of the stuff going on reminded me a little of the Mother games.
The only thing I ask of this entire game that would make it perfect in my eyes are unique ways to get some monsters. In Pokémon I fucking loved porygon just because of how hard it was to get, but not being too overpowered or anything.
It looks amazing right now. Please update with progress frequently.

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>>26951272
I'm so glad you liked Porygon - I did too.

I'm putting in a ton of monsters like that, it's one of my favorite things too.

Take a look at this guy, his name is Laz and he's the unstable type. If you breed him you may get the Relentless, Brute, Psycho, Will or even more Unstable variant.

But he's a monster that was infected by an evil fungus that killed him and now animates the corpse.

However, you can find odd items in the game, like a Antifungal medication. If you use that on him you'll get a non-fungus version that may be radically different, and you may even find a knock-off Antifungal that actually has pro-fungal properties. See where I'm going?

I want to have players find odd items like this and really want to try it out and see what monsters it may affect, many times they'll have to read into the lore a bit to find out what to use it on.

I want to put as much of this stuff in as a I can.

>>26951364
Your passion is really refreshing.
I'm a bit jaded on projects like this because they never seem to make it to the finish line, but I promise if yours does you'll have a lifelong fan right here.

give us more info OP. Also where can we keep tabs on the project? Have a twitter?

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>>26951388
That makes me really happy to hear.

Message me on twitter if you'd like. I'm always open to ideas or just talking vidya.
twitter.com/crowns_dev

We're getting to the finish line for sure.

>>26951409
Sure, you can read up on mechanics and gameplay here:

http://crownsforum.bulletcpu.com

And we're on twitter and leddit as well:
http://reddit.com/r/crownsgame
twitter.com/crowns_dev

>>26949387
It has been done before m8
Check out Jade cocoon for ps1

>>26952498
I don't feel that jade cocoon eclipses all that can be done here.

Is there a twitter account or YouTube channel I could fallow? This looks interesting.