Are Talonflame and Bruxish gonna be the next Sylveon and Hydreigon

It's not nearly as big of an issue, so no.

Only in the case with Official Artwork

>>26946800
Probably a newfag question, but why do they keep adding that hairstyle to cucked Pokémon?

>>26947014
Its the "Just fuck my shit up" haircut

>>26946800
Prevents how? They're no-longer priority or they just don't work e.g. sap sipper raises atk and does no damage.

>>26947446
Completely prevents the move from occuring.
However, we still need confirmation if it actually does block "ability-only" priority (like Gale Wings or Prankster), and if it prevents non-offensive priority (like Protect)

>>26947446
Shit I hadn't thought about non-offensive priority. How fucked would it be if it just shut prankster mons down completely?

>>26947477
True. It does seem pretty exploitable, but unless it has enough speed to force a switch and have a decent coverage move it's almost a non issue. There's enough grass/electric/dark w/o being priority.

>>26947477
>>26947515
>blocks non-offensive priority
Banned.

Does it affect prankster

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Legitimately depends on whether or not this thing has the stats to take on the bravest bird.

>>26947621
Not sure it says stops moves that strike first. So it could imply it only stops offensive only. Though we need to see it more in game.

I dont understand why is talonflame relates to that ugly fish. Pls explain

>>26947621
we don't know. the only usage so far is just the footage. it's up for debate. learn to read.
>>26947636
it's just bait for a double switch.

>>26947636
>implying only this one pokemon will get the ability

Priority is ded baby

>>26946800
>bruxish released
>50/35 physical bulk

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>>26947646
Lemme explain senpai
>ability: dazzle
>all priority moves are ignored/canceled

>>26947652
I wouldn't put it past GF to make it exclusive.

If it's a shitmon - who the fuck cares. the fish won't see use in OU beside memes.

if it's viable - so another pokemon to switch away. wow. It's not like Talonflame need to switch away anyway against some other mons.
Hell, if the meta is going to change maybe choice band bird will be back, and then Banded u-turn will not be nice.

Heck, if Fish is a physical attacker the bird can just WoW him.

>inb4 rocks

defog/rapid meme and it's gone.

i'm pretty sure this ugly as fuck fish is going to be shitmon, but maybe it wil be at least useful against klefki fuckers-
>foul play
kek nvm

>>26947652

I really hope more pokemon do, I want talonflame to be cucked out of existence. Giving this to a bug/grass/fighting type would be nice as well, because if you are weak to flying, it's fucking impossible to beat talonflame unless they are retarded

>>26947698
Autism.

>>26947707

because I said "cucked?"

>>26947477
>>26947515
>>26947643
>>26947647

Considering how all abilities that share an effect with a move have always been the same, this thing will have identical mechanics to Quick Guard. Any priority move that targets it is blocked. Everything else should still go through.

>>26947652
>>26947672

Odds are it'll be an HA somewhere. The question is if anything that gets it will be good, as a 1-stage shitmon is already out of the question for being good enough to play in the same league as talonflame.

>>26947698
>running bugs against a bird
are you stupid?
Also for keks,
Forretress
@ Custap
252 hp/252 atk/ 4 spD
Sturdy
>Incognito Igneous
>Spikes
>Toxic Spikes
>Explosion

It's a fun suicide lead.

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>>26947698
>2016
>still crying on best bird

can't wait when people realise that ugly fish won't help

>>26947750
How do you know it doesnt evolve

>>26947743
I've noticed an increase in the number of literal cucks bitching about the word's new usage.

>>26947777
The design pretty much screams fully evolved shitmon. Usually prevos arent so overdesigned. If anything this IS the evolution if its a 2-stage, which I guess would give it more of a chance since it'd get the benefit of stage 2 stats.

>>26946800

Love that image.

>>26947819
I dont see it, Im positive it will evolve.

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>>26947777

Can someone tell me what the fuck is going on with Talonflame?

What are the odds it only works on moves with naturally higher priority, and not on moves moved up by abilities?

CHOICE BAND U TURN

Unless it's very bulky, it won't survive that to be called a true counter.

Sylveon can survive literally anything Hydreigon throws at it and kill it with a sneeze.

>>26947857
People think Bruxish will make it useless, for some reason. Really, this board is just desperate after being anally fucked by it for 3 years straight.

>>26947934
>Pixillate Hyper Voice is a sneeze
It's a beastly move, I like using it against subs.

>>26947934
CBUT doesn't really hit as hard as you seem to think it does.

And if Bruxish is somehow faster than Talonflame (scarf set or something), it's all over for bravest burd.

It's still too early to tell though.

>>26947987
To kill Hydreigon, even uninvested negative natured Quick Attack works, of course it's pretty useless outside of that, but that's what I referred to.

>>26948025
0- Atk Pixilate Sylveon Quick Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon: 160-192 (49.2 - 59%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO
Fair enough, but who wouldn't pull a defensive switch? Who would use Hydreigon before Sylveon had been removed from play?

>>26947934

you'd have to succesfully predict the bruxish switch in though. If you are choice locked into brave bird, you have no choice but to switch out, and odds are bruxish would be used as a revenge killer for after a talonflame uses brave bird. Either way, it forces talonflame out, and that makes it vulnerable to rocks

>>26948106
That's true. You get a guaranteed free turn. Depending on its moves that could be a deal breaker that could scare to use Talonflame in singles.

>>26946800
Wait...if Dazzling stops priority moves, wouldn't Talonflame still go first assume it has higher speed than Bruxish?

>>26946800
It's almost as if there isn't a move that negates abilities.

>>26948220

Its Flying moves would be blocked by Dazzling; its Fire moves resisted by Bruxish's Water-typing.

>>26946800
How is Bruxish going to stop Talonflame from being used? Mega Diancie and Rotom-Wash are better counters by far even without an immunity to Brave Bird.

>>26948253
Oh it BLOCKS it, I thought it just canceled priority.

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>>26948333

imagine if this thing got shell smash

>>26947934
>Sylveon can survive literally anything Hydreigon throws at it and kill it with a sneeze.
4 Atk Life Orb Hydreigon Iron Tail vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 278-328 (71 - 83.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>26948677
>Iron Tail Hydreigon