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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z032: The Kalos League Begins! Mega Charizard Showdown: X VS Y!! [Jun 30th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! [Jul 7th]
>Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special [Jul 14th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26816694
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DP68 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_537_DP068_Tobari_Gym!_Lucario_VS_Buoysel!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][45B4C903].mkv.torrent

XY&Z9 POKETV SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_009_Terminus_Cave!_The_Mystery_of_Z_is_Set_in_Motion!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][043BB9D6].mkv.torrent

XY&Z27 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_027_Eisetsu_Gym_Match!_A_Battlefield_of_Ice!![H264_720P][8008B708].mkv.torrent

XY&Z28 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=815088

XY&Z29 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=817145

XY&Z30 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=819172

XY&Z31 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=821168

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z32: THE KALOS LEAGUE BEGINS! MEGA LIZARDON SHOWDOWN: X VS Y!! (JUNE 30TH)
>The beginning of the Kalos League is finally here! Everyone participating in the league are tough fighters that have gathered 8 badges. And among them are Trainers Ash has met before, like Shota, Tierno and Trevor. His excitement is at absolute max! But then, a Trainer suddenly challenges him to a battle!
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 38 (June 26th)

XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! (Jul 7th)
>Fierce fights happen one after another in the Kalos League. Shota and Tierno go up against each other over a place in the semifinals. Shota has also made a personal analysis of Tierno, who specializes in a rhythm strategy that uses dancing to stay in sync with his Pokémon, and makes full use of it as he goes up against him. Both of them fight furiously with neither giving an inch, and the battle eventually comes down to the last Pokémon on each side. But then Ash and his friends spot something... but what?

Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special (Jul 14th)
>The grand "Legend VS Legend" battle airs for the first time anywhere!
>The 2015 blockbuster The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa & Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians
>Also features a SMASHING world premiere showcase of footage from this year's Pokémon movie, Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna!
>The Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special airs Thursday July 14th at 6pm

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

KIRAKIRA (BY CITRON, CV YUKI KAJI):
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/IWEafb12/file.html

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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LOOK PIMPIN
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daily reminder that everyone is gay for XY Ash
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Iris will still be redeemed, right?
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Dawn is a stagnant shit with no development and a short character regression in her depression arc.
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>>26821632
>yfw Cilan will never come back to witness this
>Paul will never be tsundere
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Reminder.
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>>26821655
Braixen pls control yourself..
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>>26821655

>yfw genwunners, pikachutards and sinnoh nostalfags would say that poll was rigged by 2ch vippers jist to make young kids cry.
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>>26821666
They would have chosen an uglier mon, or a mon that's barely in the spotlight, like Porygon.
;_;
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>>26821666
To be fair, Magnemite making it into the top 25 was entirely because of them
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>>26821655
Why is he so perfect?
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>>26821686
They were votespamming Magnemite because memes.
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>I'll marry Satoshi!
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>>26821694
And what was the meme about Magnemite/Coil?
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>>26821691
Because he's in love.
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>>26821701
The Coil Coil from B2W2.
/vp/ joined in as well, but it never hit meme status here.
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>>26821704
Well, you're not wrong.
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I WANT IT
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>>26821713
ME TOO
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>>26821711
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>>26821713
Looks like a cheap knock-off of the Satoshi doll that Rica and those other people had.
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>>26821711
>Ash kneeling by the moonlight
Damn, this is so romantic. Someone shop Serena in there.
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>>26821744
Why?
Either we'll legitimately and officially get something better, or it will be absolutely pointless in coming months.
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>>26821774
Because you're a faggot.
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>>26821632
I miss the "bullied by everyone and never lusted for" Ash.
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>>26821725
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>>26821804
What is he saying?
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>>26821809
Miracle Magical Pokemyun Tairenar...
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>>26821792
Iris pls.
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>>26821809
I like how Braixen seems to be wearing a skirt and stockings.
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Serena and Ash are not lewd with each other.
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>>26821852
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>>26821852
You want to see lewd stuff between them? they hold hands a lot, but this is a blue board.
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>>26821852
You're not lewd with anyone.
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>>26821852
This post is bait and you shouldn't respond to it.
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>>26821876
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>>26821884
But is a excuse to post Amour.
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>>26821661
>
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>>26821821
I always read tairenar as trainer.
Just write Teruna, f-for my comodity.
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>>26821899
Nobody wants to see your shit fanart.
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>>26821911
It comes from the French "renard", anon
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>>26821876
Delete this now.
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>>26821925
No worries o got you fampai.
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>>26821925
What fanart?
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>>26821941
Huh interesting, thanks for the trivia.
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>>26821697
>>26821925
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>>26821941
Why is it pronounced teruna tho
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>>26821962
Because "renard" is pronounced "ru-NAH". French is weird like that.
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new titles when?
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>>26821876
Why is he holding her hand so delicately?
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>>26821976
Aug?
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>>26821976
Presumably any day now.
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>>26821962
It's Japanese anon, they won't pronounce it like it's supposed to in French, same with Millefeui.
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>>26821980
So he can feast on her delicious tears when he dumps her.
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>>26821999
But they do, they just chop off the final syllables.
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>>26822000
>impl
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>>26821996
Don't contain yourself then.
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>>26821852
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>>26822005
They don't pronounce best girl's name how it's supposed to, not even close.
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>>26822034
Eh? What's going on here?
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>>26822034
Is that the continuity for that picture where a Ditto just transform in Serena? looks cute.
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>>26822034
Goddammit, Ditto.
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>>26822034
Ew
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>>26822068
Duplicate :^)
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>>26822044
They just chop off everything after the "fi" sound in Millefeuille. Sounds right to me.
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>>26822068
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>>26822034
Cute
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>>26822026
Why this
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>>26822034
I wish I could get (you)'s this easily
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>>26822091
They pronounce it as Me-re-fee, and if her name is supposed to be pronounced the same as "Mille-feuille", then it's not really correct at all.
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>>26822107
We should learn to draw
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>>26822129
what

pretty sure it's "mirufii"
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>>26822129
They pronounce it "Mil-fee", which is exactly how you pronounce the first part of "millefeuille".
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Left or right /padt/?
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>>26822130
They didn't draw that though, where are you going with this? I already am familia, go study anatomy and attend figure drawing classes, that way you can draw porn and drown in neet/virgin dosh.
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>>26822034
What's up with this artist obsession with Serena's love for Ash being the punchline?
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>>26822143
>mirufii
Yeah it's mirufii, which is not how you're supposed to say it, but it's Japanese so who cares, they are absolutely terrible at non-phonetic languages.
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I choose C.
Also why do they look like men.
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>But that's Forbidden Love!
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>>26822166
So how ARE you supposed to say it, King French?
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>>26822171
>>26822161
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>>26822107
Just shittalk Serena and the whole of Serena Discussion Thread will be onto you.
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>>26822171
Because that's Ash and Citron
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>>26822180
It works with stale
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>>26822173
They can't reproduce so yeah, frog dick must feel weird anyways. She knows better than that, Braixen is a smart girl.
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>>26822161
Neither.
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>>26822181
Thought so, just wasn't sure.
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>>26822188
Pikachu can breed with Braixen, apparently. Interesting.
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>>26822176
Just go to google translate and use their TTS tool.
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>>26822203
So the same way, then.
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>>26822202
Muh wish.
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>>26822187
You don't even have to be stale.
Just say amour isn't happening and you are guaranteed a >implying
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>>26822213
That poster is going to be very upset later this year.
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>>26822222
Nice quints
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>>26822213
Well, I'm not so desperate to start a fight with someone
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>>26822222
This poster confirmed for upset later this year.
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>>26822161
Best girl.
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>>26822209
Not at all, the "ru" part is instead an "l" in the French pronunciation, but that's just due to how Japanese works.
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>>26822188
Aren't there pairs in the anime that can't actually breed in the games? I mean they probably just don't produce an egg, but can still fuck like Lopunny in heat.
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>>26822232
You don't have to reply to them tho. They just have to reply to you.
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>>26822107

Just do these things below..

>shittalk Serena, Amour, XY Ash and GreninjAsh
>overworship Misty and/or Dawn, saying they're best pokegirls, OS Ash was Best Ash because muh personallity and muh Nobita.
>Say Poke/Pearlshipping have the best focus/chemistry/dynamics. Along with this, say Geekchic
>spam Lillie/Mitsuki fanarts where they're with Ash
>say tsundere girl will win the Ashbowl in the end.
>parallel to shitting on GreninjAsh, you must overworship Charizard, Infernape and Pikachu. Specifically, you must attack the "bond with Ash" topic.
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>>26822263
I want to change shitpost meta on /padt/ by forcing phox. Leave me alone
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>>26822263
>>26822232
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>>26822263
So in other words, "spam"?
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>>26822263
>implying these threads care about based ninja
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Ever since the X and Y anime started airing I was hoping for cheaspin and fenniken to get together in the anime what really convinced me it would happen was certain choices/actions chespin would inact while on screen with fenniken for example when making the "mini-movie" talking about everyone's pokemon, remember how the camoron rolled down the hill and everyone went after it? Then chespin was at the bottom but instead of giving it to fenniken he just ate it? Well that's not the only insistence of something like that happening but I need to get to my point, when fenniken evolved into braixen I knew that it couldn't happen anymore so I only had one solution I must go back in time and kill everyone at the animation studio so I asked mewtwo to take me back he did and we both went to the year 2001 and attacked the studio, but allah dammit Japan and new York looked so SIMILER BACK THEN
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>>26822272

Right. But it seems it won't work with him. Only stale/misty shitposter/Mitsuki-Lillie spammer can trigger such reactions.
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>>26822272
I bet you also call combos and proper projectile spacing "spam". Learn your definitions, juan.
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>>26822284
Filtered.
Also didn't read.
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>>26822291
>>>/v/
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>>26821980
Because they know how to put their viewers in maximun rustle mode
Why?
Why?
Why they are doing that?
Don't they know that toying with fire leads to blazing inferno?
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>>26822307
I would have actually gotten angry had you redirected me to >>>/vg/, since they're the ones who actually play video games.

Good attempt tho, you earned a reply.
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>>26822287
Sometimes stale is fun, as when he appears to be retarded
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>>26822145
The part after "Mil" is supposed to be pronounced as in "faye", so saying "fee" is wrong as well.
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>>26822263
Don't forget the gore spammers, shit spammers, or that faggot who spams Terufuu
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>>26822341
It's all same nigger.
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>>26822222
You sound upset right now.
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basically "MILFy"
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>>26822396
she's 13-14 years old, anon pls
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>>26822410
She's 10

>caring
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>>26822410
10
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>>26822222
top quints
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>>26822420
>>26822428
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>>26822373
Please inspect my numbers and then hang yourself.
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>>26822440
Look at those delinquent 9 year olds having pokemon.
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>>26822459
9?
More like 7
Damn Frenchies
Simplest rule in universe, and yet they manage to screw it up
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>>26822510
They're 10. Ash and the gang are about 13. He spend a lot of time on that plane, having to cross dimensions and shit since Kalos is in ORAS Hoenn's timeline.
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>>26822440
>yfw Bonnie is more mature than those other kids
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>Amazing scoop: It looked different 500 years ago!
>We got a news story exclusive to this magazine! 500 years ago, it had gorgeous colors and patterns due to it serving a kingdom. Bet you were shocked to learn that it looked different from how it does now!!
>See how amazing it looks with your own eyes in the theater
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>>26822544
>Ash puts reflection to good use
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>>26822567
>gold silver bronze
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>>26822567
Damn, that looks great.
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>>26822567
Wut
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>>26822567
Now even more a 'literally pokeball" than before!
Buy Magearna today, Get free retro conversion Kit free!
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>>26822567
literally my mom's pokeball
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>>26821691
Shut up Braixen.
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>>26822567
Why can't we have those movies over here?
Why aren't movies as immersive as this?
Why is america full of people with shit tastes?
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>>26822459
>>26822510
'10'
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>>26822639
>
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>>26822656
I wait for a day when they will state his year.
They can't pull this bullshit for much long.
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>>26821697
You can't marry your father, I think you need theraphy.
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>>26822665
They did last year.
He's 10
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>>26822675
In the movie though, the canon of those is quite ambiguous.
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>>26822643
Following the Japanese marketing of them is fun, though
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>>26822675
That quiz was bullshit, everyone knows that
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>>26822666
>Not marrying your dad

Are you gay?
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お願い アダマント
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>>26822567
>Already distributing shiny Pokemon that are not even in an available game yet.
>Worst possible colors.
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>>26822690
I know torturing Audino's is a very fun way to pass time, but I don't think it works on non-pokemon.
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>>26822666
Will be good parents?
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>>26822720
They're not distributing it, they're saying it'll look like that in the flashback scenes to its past in the movie.
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>yfw it's not even it's shiny version, it's just a super special color form like Eternal Floette
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>>26822454
Really upset.
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>>26822544
Ash and Serena are 10, Clemont is barely 10, and Bonnie isn't close to 10.
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>>26822774
>yfw 10 is the only legal age any citizen can get in the Pokemon world
>once you reach the age of 10 you'll always be referred to as 10 years old even if you are 18 years old or above
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Amourshipping was the gimmick of XY/Z, the whole first girl companion to canonically fell in love with Ash.

How would /padt/ react if they try the opposite in the potentially anime adaptation of SM? Ash falling in love for the girl companion?
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>>26822789
>this explains the picture of Diantha back in camp and how the next group is Ash's group
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>>26822440
Betting that girl is the same age-group as QueenKo and Swirlix Girl.
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>>26822765
You'll be ok.
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>>26822794
>Amourshipping was the gimmick of XY/Z
>didn't play BW, BW2 or ORAS
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>>26821972
>>26821999
>>26822005
>>26822091
>>26822145

>I know things they're totally legit guys

This thread. This guy >>26822338 is closest to how it's pronounced.
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>>26822794
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>>26822797
>Diantha is still 10
Lewd
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>>26822794
If done well then I'd be all for it. It would be a fun change.
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>>26822810
>playing the games

Amourshipping was a gimmick but an awesome gimmick, it actually made me come back to the series.
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>>26822797
>>26822816
>yfw AZ started the tradition of the age of consent being 10 to allow him to marry his loli wife
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>>26822794
I want Luna to be Ash's competent serious rival, not his shipmate.
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>>26822816
>Cynthia is still 10
>Alder is still 10
>Agatha is still 10
>Drayden is still 10
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>>26822774
>Clemont is barely 10
I was under the impression that he was like 12-13.
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>>26822819
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>>26822836
>this is why Lysandre is completely calm about assuming Leprechaun was Alan's waifu
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>>26822789
This is always how I've thought of it.
Age numbers only apply to children, after 10 years you're considered an adult.
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>>26822848
No, he is 10 like every adult in this series. Why else would Bonnie try desperately hard to find him a wife? He's basically an old maid.
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>>26822848
Yeah Clemont seems to be older than Ash/Serena.
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>>26822848
He just took control of the gym and he's shorter than Ash.
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Clemont is like Brock
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>>26822837
The games don't show the opposite gendered character as a rival when you get your Pokemon.

She'll be like Bianca.
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>>26822834
>not playing the games
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>>26822894
I stopped playing the games after DP.
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>>26822884
or like..
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>>26822894
I dont like turn based games
I mean, >it's 2016, just give me an action pokemon game, not a menu simulator
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>>26822774
Clermont is probably 1 or 2 years older, he's a midget.

>>26822794
It would be setting up for a BW kind of series.

>>26822837
>Luna
Here's the (you)
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>>26822903
Touko-chan is still better than Moon
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>>26822901
Get the fuck off this board.
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>>26822919
He's younger and a hikki.
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>>26822834
>>26822901
>>26822913
>there are the kind of people that browse /padt/
Figures.
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>>26822942
There's them and there's (You).
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>>26822942
>>26822919
The games have gotten boring. I played them competitively in the Gen III and Gen IV era but then got burnt out.
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>>26822942
>implying you're any better than they are
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>>26822942
I just browse /vp/ for the anime

I just don't like the games, why should I like the games to enjoy the anime?
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>>26822973
I am far superior than them. Just like the games are far superior than the anime.
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DP=Great
BW=Utter garbage
XY=Great
SM=?
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Mostly of /vp/ is full of babies who only play Nintendo games
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>>26823013
The only way to go after XY is down again.
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>>26823013
ehm.. the new BW?
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>>26822997
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>>26823018
This. They come from youtube
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>>26823036
Maybe you're one of them.
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>>26823048
Or you've been one of them at some time
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>>26823026
What?
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I am actually disgusted you shits not only worship anime Serena but you don't even play the games.

Why do I spend any of my time here.
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>>26823083
Don't generalize.
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>>26823083
There's literally nothing wrong about not playing the games.
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Never forget
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>>26822034
>>26822094
translate please
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>>26822794
>When Ash was much younger there was a little girl next door he used to visit everyday to play. every so often he messed up my garden to get some flowers to give to her as presents. They both wanted to start their pokemon journey as soon as possible, so Ash promised her that they do start their journeys together. He seemed very fond of her, but one day her parents left pallet for work reasons. I believe her name was Luna.
>All other ships btfo
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>>26822680
Not really, all of them are canon besides one of the Zekrom/Reshiram ones because they can't coexist.
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>>26823103
<Best resolution and edition
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>>26823102
The anime is literally just an advertisement for the games.
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>>26823103
A female writer from DP who never wrote an XY episode before came back after 6 years just to make this episode. Amazing.
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>>26823102
You would be in /a/ if this wasn't a contaiment board.

The majority here plays the games.
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>>26822894
>>26822810
i played BW and BW2 but i dont remmeber any shipping
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>>26823083
I play real videogames, not games that threat you like you are mentally handicapped
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>>26822263
You forgot about these.

>say Dawn is a lesbian.
>talk about how Dawn is Ash counterpart in girl form.
>shittalk about DP or how this is the worst season.
>post Amour/Serena arts or Amour/Serena screenshots.
>talk about how much you like Serena or how she is best girl.
>post about how short hair is better than long.
>say that the XY series is perfect and doesn't have any flaws.
>call the new girl of SM Selene.
>grentext about shipping moments, if these are lewd gets more replies.
>post loli lewds with Bonnie.
>say Serena will follow Ash to alola.
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>>26823156
>containment board
I don't think you know what that word means.
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>>26823117
First part
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>>26823155
She wrote the Klefki short.
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>>26823172
I watch real anime, not anime that treat you like you are mentally handicapped.
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>>26823192
okay. I do too
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>>26823155
I love Matsui-san
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>>26823180
What is she looking there?
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>>26822263
Funny thing is Pearlshippers don't bother me. They're nowhere as obnoxious as Pokeshippers are, and at least most Pearlshippers don't think Ash/Dawn was ever going to be 100% canon or anything, it was more wishful thinking.
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>>26823172
>>26823192
Stop it, faggots

>>26823206
I agree.
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>>26823083
I play the games and I like anime Serena.
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>>26823066
#exposed
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I haven't played pokemon in 2 and a half or so years, I did champed for showderp a few times but it got boring after a while. Memes need rejuvenation.
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>watching an anime based off a series you don't even play

I've seen some retarded shit on /vp/ and this is one of them
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>>26823155
She's also writing Tierno vs Shota.
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>>26823136
Well, yeah, but i dont like turn based games.
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>>26823117
Who the fuck is Luna?
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>>26823083
I like to play videogames and i like the anime too, i have played Xy/Oras and i'm playing pearl while i'm waiting for SM.
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>>26823247
I played Pokemon games for four generations. The games don't really change all that much besides the new pokemon and mechanics.

Blame GameFreak for making the same game endlessly. If you're not into competitive battling for the new pokemon you're essentially just playing for the region/story, and all Pokemon games are too similar nowadays.
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>>26823247
You don't know the force you're reckoning with anon, weebs are entitled shits.
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>>26823275
I don't like 1 vs 1 turn based games
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>>26823206
All shippers are obnoxious to varying degrees. The current ones have not exactly been shining lately.
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yeah i like to answer posts without quoting you look at me

shut up you fucking shitfaggot
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>>26823286
>The anime doesn't really change all that much besides the new pokemon and characters
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>>26823255
>Aya Matsui wrote XYZ 33
kek
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>>26823247
>you can't enjoy this thing unless you enjoy it the same way I do
Go shitpost in the TCG general instead, anon.
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>>26823206
>pokeshipping: disgusting
>advanceshipping/pearlshipping: it could be great but 100% no
>amourshipping: canon
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>>26823296
Advanceshippers seem to be the calmest Ash/main girl shippers. Probably because most of them also supported Pearl or Amour after May left.
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>>26823298
Serena posters are so rude
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>>26823313
Probably because may got cannonly shipped with someone else.
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>>26823246
>I haven't played pokemon in 2 and a half or so years, I did champed for showderp a few times but it got boring after a while. Memes need rejuvenation.
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>>26823298
Calm down, stale
>>26823313
Drew is the reason, obviously
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>>26823313
May and Serena are my favorite girls.
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>>26823247
I just don't understand these people.
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>>26823336
>quoting the whole post.

You're looking more retarded than that guy, anon
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>>26823247
Nobody cares you insecure cuck.
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>>26823373
>its a well known fact EVERYBODY outside this general hates the ashnime
>EVERYBODY
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>>26823401
yeah, go post shitrena outside this circlejerk and see what happens ;)
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>>26823373
>>26823410
Ebin projecting, shitpost-kun
>>
misty a shit ;)
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>>26823373
>>26823410
>>26823440
>>26823441
You're trying too hard.
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New summaries later today, right? Don't we usually get them on Tuesdays?
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>>26823336
If it makes you feel better I'll get sm when it comes out.
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>>26823464
Stop.
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>>26823421
Nice buzzwords you absolute spaz.
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>>26823464
I felt generous in giving you your (You)s.
You've done this every day for the past two years.
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>>26823471
>>26823508
just wait until november until serena leaves, oh god that will be heaven, cant wait to see the butthurt
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I just asked how /padt/ would react, now it turned into an anime vs game shitpost festival.

I'm sorry
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2 weeks of this shit..
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>>26823283
>>26822919
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>>26823466
Nice, me too.
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>>26823527
you right now
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>>26823543
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>>26823527
But most people here likes both, anime and games.
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>>26823117
DELETE THIS
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>>26823525
You've been ridiculously butthurt since the Snowbelle trilogy.
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>>26823558
Most people don't even like anything here, they just come from /v/ to shitpost, this is why /vp/ is such a shithole.
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>>26823534
Eh, there'll always be new material to shitpost sadly.
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>>26823525
>Ash is no longer the protagonist in SM
Who would be more butthurt then?
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>>26823598
stay mad misty
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>>26823557
>Create variation of contests that is closest in theme and execution, but basically boils down to performing tricks and dancing to the music
>release circus-mons in the very next gen

uNintended or true genius?
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>>26823296
>The current ones have not exactly been shining lately
As of now it isn't a thing of ship vs. ship, it's a thing of amour vs. anti-amour.
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>>26823188
Klefki short is barely an episode. In fact, Klefki doesn't even have an episode dedicated to it, and I don't think it being with Pierre getting constantly sidelined by cute girls doing cute things counts.
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Why haven't you masturbated to Mary today?
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>>26823611
>implying i even like misty
>implying i even like any cancerous shipping
top kek
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>>26823527
>mfw it's been almost two years since the plane crash
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>>26823639
Klefki danced, so that counts I figure.
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>>26823649
Of course, you're worse.
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>>26823600
Noone, Ash needs to be replaced and stays forever Serena's only mwuahahaha.
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>>26823659
Floating around being held by Delphox barely counts as dancing. Just like Eevee running around in circles with a Furret.
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>>26823527
You've made me realise how many anime-only shitters we have here. Which while disgusting, is good to know.
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>>26823656
>>>>> crash
Although who the fuck flies over war theater
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>>26823680
t. butthurt whatever you're.
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>>26823700
>anime-only shitters that know how anime works
>anime and game shitters who do both
>underage /v/ that comes in just to shitpost
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>>26823700
Most anime-only fans are here just for this general, like myself.

Well, I want to believe that.
>>
>>26823656
MH17 was not crashed, it was fucking targeted with a missile. The other Malaysian airlines plane crashed somewhere in the world in the ocean, while the meme plane crashed in Bains, France
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>>26823598
>>26823649
>>26823696
>>26823713
Those episodes really ass ravaged you, didn't they?
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>>26823649
If there's a canon ship in Alola then fuck this gay earth. It doesn't matter how cute Amour may or may not be, the fact remains that this thread has been unmittagated shit ever since it started because of shippers getting too easily trolled. If there was no shipping at all we wouldn't have this problem.
>>
>>26823737
again
>>26823598
;)
>>
>>26823741
Even if there's no ship, you can troll with almost everything, just needs to say the show is a shit.
>>
>>26823737
He's talking to himself again
>>
>>26823756

>>26823570
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>>26823647
No good lewds and Terufuu has once again fucked off.
>>
>>26823773
>He's talking to himself again
>implying people here aren't retarded enough to reply every time
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>>26823756
kill self
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>>26823627
>amour vs. anti-amour
Thinking amour will never be canon does not mean you're necessarily against the ship. I wish people realized this.
>>
>>26823784
see
>>26823598
and >>26823793
see
>>26823696
;)
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>>26823773
>>26823791
Just pathetic.
>>
I'm glad Adamant hasn't been around lately, means he's working hard on the subs ;)
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>>26823803
Last (You) from me.

>>26823570
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>>26823700
>playing the games
ISHYGDDT
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>>26823803
>>
Reminder that she is perfect.

>>26823802
This. It's pretty clear that a big part of the romance even existing is that it fits the theme of Kalos anyways.
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>>26823804
Gross, delete this!
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>>26823818
last (you) from me too ;)

>>26823598
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>>26823833
>Unova
>Hoenn
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Enough
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>>26823804
MUH DICK IS DIAMONDS!
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>>26823849
Serena a qt.
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>>26823846
>Unova
Enlighten me, because I never bothered watching that shit fest.

>Hoenn
Eh, I guess May and Drew were technically a romance of sorts. I guess the better phrasing would be a romance directly involving the main character.
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>>26823802
Sure, but the majority of people in here that post against amour don't think like that, they just shit on it for whatever reason.
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>>26823849
I miss her long hair.
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>>26823851
Post picture and timestamp.
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>>26823804
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO OUR DAUGHTER? DELETE THIS NOW!
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>>26823849
Why cut-off Bonnie? Does she not deserve love?
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>>26823882
Bonnie deserve all the love.
>>
>>26823804
>>26823881
I'm starting to think this is the same person using two devices
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>>26823902
But soon she will get suffering.

>yfw she becomes one with the Puni-chan's core to battle Perfect Corrupted Zygarde
>yfw this is the ultimate bond between human and Pokemon, something beyond even Ash-Greninja

Bonnie will go far in life.
>>
>>26823905
For what purpose would he do that.
>>
>>26823920
to shitpost
>>
LOOK PIMPIN I AIN'T PLAYING
IN A MINUTE YA GONNE BE LAYIN
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>>26823905
And I'm starting to think people spend way too much time here.
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>>26823866
The whole romance thing has been put in the games since Unova.

B2/W2 with Yancy/Curtis and the PC, X/Y with Shauna, and OR/AS with Brendan/May. Anime wise, they did Drew/May while you had other CotD doing it as well.
>>
>>26823929
A vague imperceptive form of shitpost then.
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>>26823902
Clemont pls.
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>>26823942
>the games
We're talking about the anime anon.
It still weirds me out that when my name finally shows up in a pokemon game, it's used as a side story romance thing.
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>>26823939
Because is the truth.
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>>26823905
Think again, plus that image gets posted every other thread, on occasion more than once even, so I guess it's constant ban evasion.
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>>26823965
Why do people purposely post porn here? What's the point?
>>
>>26823967
I'm talking about everything involving the regions while I'm saying it isn't just a Kalos thing including the anime.
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>>26823989
They're underageb& that think people get bothered by porn because they got grounded for looking at it once.
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>>26823902
Until she talks shit about Serena again and Ash silences her.
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>>26823991
Again, we're specifically talking the anime here. There's no reason to bring up the games or the various manga, because they have nothing to do with the anime characters.
I don't know why you people try to turn the discussion in this direction.
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>>26824001
Bonnie did nothing wrong.
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>>26823965
They are raping Satoshi and Serena?
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>>26824017
Lillia doesn't think so
>>
>tfw that's my translation
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>>26824017
She ruined Clermont's chance because of some nightmare she had.
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>>26824030
Nah Serena is literally slutting it up while Ash is passed out and getting off on it.
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>>26824057
>ruined
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>>26824010
And again the anime did it in Hoenn while the games are pretty much the source material in which the anime is based off of. Said source did it from Unova even though the anime tried rebooting instead. For the record RSE didn't do any of that when they put Drew and May together. Yes, the games have something to do with it as well.
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>>26824065
>the artist felt so bad about it afterwards he did a makeup sex sequel
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>>26824078
What does the arrow actually mean?
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>>26824092
Serena spotted Lillia's hair.
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>>26824017
Bonnie did something wrong if Ash activated Lemon Repellent when he was sick.
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>>26824078
now thats qt porn
nothing really wrong here, clemont with his wife procreating
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>>26824065
>artist felt like shit for doing that that he draws Ash and Serena having happy sex in the woods with vanilla talk
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>>26824117
Cute. Artist redeemed.
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>>26824088
Probably the only reason Contestshipping was created in the anime was to get girls invested in May's character and Contests, and to possibly get them to move on from Misty.
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>>26824117
Why would he feel bad, it's not like either of his NTR works arecanon.
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>>26824105
Matsui a qt
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>>26824134
Are you really trying this now Scott?
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This, with Ash and Serena, fucking when?
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>>26824150
Because it's not right
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>>26824150
Probably for ruining the purity of the couple.

It's still weird either way all things considered.
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>>26824150
Because he felt bad over doing something that isn't right Juan.
>>
>>26824117
post the cute one then
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>>26824219
>post porn on a blue board
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>>26824219
Here, have this instead.
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>>26824057
No. She ruined it because she didn't want onii-chan to be with anyone else but her.
>>
>>26824219
PROMOTIONS
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>>26824260
that looks like a teenager Serena with a teenage ash
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>>26824295
Maybe, what's interesting is that Ash looks slightly taller than Serena, when most of the time they're about the same height and Serena's occasionally higher.

I have mixed feelings about this image though because Serena reminds me of my girlfriend on it.
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>>26824150
Because Ash/Serena is for vanilla. And maybe a bit of kinky stuff on the side between the two and their Pokemon.
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>>26824327
>what's interesting is that Ash looks slightly taller than Serena
Well, thats understandable since ash can perfectly grow taller in like 5 years or something.
>>
Would the hypothetical Serena confession be direct or would she beat around the bush?
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>>26824360
Yeah I guess.
>>
>>26824327
Ash's shown taller than Serena on occasion.
XY6, XY50 and XY&Z22 are some of the blatant ones.
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>>26823804
DELETE THIS !!
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>>26824394
Serena is probably intended to be taller than Ash, similar to the way Misty was. Dawn was about the same height as Ash.

May and Iris were noticeably shorter than Ash.
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>>26824412
Serena and Ash are kept around the same height while Misty was ridiculously tall. Dawn May and Iris were shorter than Ash.
>>
>>26824394
>>26824412
>>26824430
I'm of the idea that the boots she wears on her second attire might make her a bit taller than before.
>>
I have a feelings everything is going to be so platonic in Alola among the main cast like DP was. They can't do Ash/Serena again.
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>>26824504
They can if she comes along
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>>26824504
I doubt there will be a new cast. Ash's story is ending.
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>>26824504
They can if it's not Ash, or if Serena goes with him. Although at this point the former is more likely than the latter.
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>>26824535
>Although at this point the former is more likely than the latter
Not at all.
>>
If Serena does leave, she needs a separate goodbye episode from the lemons.
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>>26824569
As long as its not as rushed as May/Max's departure was, or Brock's DP farewell, or Iris/Cilan's.

To be honest none of the characters departures got all that much fanfare outside of Misty's and Dawn's. Hell I even think Brock's departure at the start of Orange Islands was better than his permanent one at the end of DP.
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>>26824547
You think the latter is more likely or neither?
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>>26824608
The latter at least has some potential. Ash getting retired for no reason is not happening. It's a colossal risk with an extremely high chance of making viewers leave, TPC/GF would never allow it unless they saw it as absolutely necessary.
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>>26824639
Pokemon viewership already leaves, it's called a fleeting demographic for a reason.
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>>26824656
Yes. But retiring your popular lead for absolutely no reason is not going to make a bunch of people suddenly start watching for that reason.

It's fairly telling when the people that want him to leave say they want it "so that his story can wrap up". That's the kind of thing that makes people feel they can stop watching, ie the exact opposite of what the writers want.
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>>26824639

Unless TPC/ShoPro decides to go the Super Sentai/Kamen Rider/Time Bokan way (different main characters per series' installment, but same premise and same moronic villains).

Pokemon anime is actually a clusterfuck storywise. It has a very linear and progressive premise, but it's actually hurt by the Doraemon-esque nature of the episodes.

tl;dr The self-contained nature of every episode contradicts so badly with the linear premise of every fuckin gen

>and a short reminder GF has nothing to do with the anime. They are only game developers
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>>26824639
Not really for no reason, only to wrap up his story.

>>26824686
>That's the kind of thing that makes people feel they can stop watching, ie the exact opposite of what the writers want.
Actually I'd definitely watch SM if they wrapped up Ash's story, if they don't I'm not so sure.
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>>26824686
Japanese children from the target age will keep watching no matter what, as long as they keep Pikachu as the cute mascot and the rest of the damn critters get showcased. At this point, Ash as a character is little more than an artifact to the anime because there must be an MC that can serve as an stand-in for the games MC.
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>>26824712
>Unless TPC/ShoPro decides to go the Super Sentai/Kamen Rider/Time Bokan way (different main characters per series' installment, but same premise and same moronic villains).
If they were going to do that, they'd have done it 18 years ago. At this point the series is extremely established as one long continuous story.

>>26824730
"We want to wrap up his story" isn't a financially sensible reason. There's no incentive for them to do that. The Pokemon anime isn't a couple people's personal art project, TPC won't just let them do things like that because they feel like it.
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>>26824733
The "they'll probably keep watching anyway" thing is what led to BW, anon.
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GEN MIN - MAX
OS 8.3% - 18.6% AVG 14.105%
JT 5.3% - 14.9% AVG 10.689%
AG 4.2% - 11.0% AVG 7.065%
DP 4.1% - 9.3% AVG 6.396%
BW 2.2% - 9.3% AVG 5.292%
XY 3.2% - 6.4% AVG 4.559%
XYZ 2.4% - 4.4% AVG 3.673% (up to xy&z24)

SM ?
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>>26824430

Misty was modeled like a tough girl. Tall, swimmer, messy hair tied, boyish or hillbilly-ish clothes, unclassy, rude way of speaking (calling herself as "atashi" and refering others as "anta", finishing her sentences with "sureba") and slightly darker skin than Dawn or Serena (more evident when Pokemon turned into digital paint).

Serena's just a polar opposite of her (soft spoken, not as fit as MC, classy, polite way of speaking). It's like the summer and the winter.
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>>26824803
Good, we got ourselves another Scott.
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>>26824803
That's not how ratings work, Scott.
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>>26824833
>new
He's spammed this many times already
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>>26824763
Carrying on with Ash only to shit any progress he makes once again is also a financial risk, if they ever want to wrap up his story now it's a good time to do it. The only thing they really need to keep is Pikachu and that's a lot easier.
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>>26823247
Its the fucking same with Yugioh. I see the Anime but don't play the game. Its completely normal i have two friends who are the same
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>>26823247
Nobody heres plays the game you little shit go back to your 3ds
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>>26824866
>Carrying on with Ash only to shit any progress he makes once again is also a financial risk
They've been doing that for six gens so far, so they clearly don't agree. There's not some huge group of people that will ONLY watch the gen 7 anime if Ash is replaced.
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>>26824870
I'm also pretty positive not a single person here that watches Aikatsu has ever touched the Aikatsu arcade game.
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Will SM be another hard reboot?
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>>26824911
Like BW? No chance. OLM saw how bad that worked out for them.
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>>26824911
What...
the...
fuck....


Oh, how low we hath fallen...
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>>26824853
Doesn't look like Scott though. He'd have talked a lot more about it, I think.
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>>26824889
>They've been doing that for six gens so far, so they clearly don't agree.
Doesn't mean they'll do it a seventh time, unless they want to shit on most of what happened of XY which would likely be harmful like BW was coming after DP.

>There's not some huge group of people that will ONLY watch the gen 7 anime if Ash is replaced
Ehh I don't know about that, it isn't like there is a huge group of people that will stop watching if Ash isn't there either.
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>>26824889
If they want to keep clinging to their ever-shrinking audience of Japanese children, that is.

I, for one, would gladly watch a series with a new, fresh MC.
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>>26824983
There's a considerably bigger group, plus they also run the risk of the new lead not being liked. They got a character that works, replacing him while he's still working is a pointless risk
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>>26824763

PreCure went 3 years with the battle pair gimmick. It went full Super Sentai with Yes! PreCure 5. Kamen Rider, since 1971, was all about a lonely hero 'till Agito when several other riders started to be included into the generational cast. It's not impossible for TPC/ShoPro to retool the way Pokemon series are being made. The franchise isn't called Satoshi & Pikachu. It's called Pokemon
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>>26825005
>If they want to keep clinging to their ever-shrinking audience of Japanese children

Lying isn't going to make your point look any better, anon.
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>>26825016
You're still failing to give any sort of REASON they'd want to do something so stupidly risky.
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>>26825008
>There's a considerably bigger group, plus they also run the risk of the new lead not being liked
There're no numbers for either, but the truth is both groups exist, also the new lead not being liked is debatable, Ash isn't the most liked character of the series out there, and some people didn't like him at the beginning and don't like what he has become in XY, and it wouldn't be unique when you have a series like Naruto where the main character was widely hated and the series was still popular.

>They got a character that works
It really doesn't work anymore to just soft reboot him every few years and shit on any progress.
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>>26824971
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/%22GEN%20MIN%20-%20MAX%22/
He's been spamming it for a while (the archive is missing a number of the posts). It's the same type of "if I keep posting this over and over I'll probably manage to convince some newfag eventually" shit Scott is doing.
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>>26825016
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>>26825041
Ash is popular in Japan, though. Most of the hate comes from crappy dubs.
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>>26825058
Because he's hot.
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>>26825058
Ash's dub voice is so terrible. I feel like he has a slightly different personality in the dub, too. Notably in Unova he seemed even more pathetic in the dub.
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>>26825030

Main character's usefulness being worn out would be one...?? Come on!! Pokemon should stop pretending to be "the 21st century's Doraemon/Anpanman/Sazae-San". Its actual premise (games and anime) contradicts very very badly with the self contained and aesop-teaching nature the anime production commitee still put into the series)
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>>26825055
Now remove the ones chosen solely because people want distributions

Greninja
Pikachu
Sylveon
Rayquaza
Charizard
Mewtwo
Eevee
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>>26825100
How would you describe the personality difference?
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>>26825058

Popular for a borderline seinen demographic though. He ranked 8th in a "best anime character of all times" poll made by Oricon. People who voted there were >18 years old otakus.
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>>26825055
>tfw 4. Pikachu 5. Sylveon
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>>26825111
>Main character's usefulness being worn out would be one...??
But it's not?

See, that's what I mean. All the arguments tend to just boil down to "I personally think they should replace him because of my personal opinions regarding what would be better for the writing", and that's just not how long running series like these are made. Massive changes like these are done because they make financial sense, not because some writer personally thinks the character deserves to settle down permanently or whatever.
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>>26825127
Its hard to describe. He's way too enthusiastic in the dub. Everything he says he's shouting it. While sounding too much like a girl.
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>>26825168
>All the arguments tend to just boil down to "I personally think they should replace him because of my personal opinions regarding what would be better for the writing", and that's just not how long running series like these are made.
But it could be better for the writing, how many long running series have soft reboots like Pokémon does(outside of stuff like The Simpsons)? Also "financial sense" it would still be an anime about Pokémon in the end, the fundamentals of the series wouldn't change otherwise.
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If there was any time to replace him it's not. I mean, what more can they do with him? If the writers don't allow Ash to win the league in XY(Z), when he's at his best BY FAR, there's literally no point in following him because he will never succeed in his goal. As far as romance goes, what they're doing with Serena is unprecedented(maybe a bit extreme of a term), but with he amount of pushing they're doing with this Ash/Serena thing, if it were any other anime...it be endgame. But, if that doesn't come to pass either we may as well give up on Ash every getting any major development.

I like Ash as a character, but he's one of the most unsuccessful main characters I've ever seen in any anime.
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>>26825305
*it's now*
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>>26825244
>Also "financial sense" it would still be an anime about Pokémon in the end, the fundamentals of the series wouldn't change otherwise.

Yeah. It's not like Doraemon, Detective Conan, Sazae-San or Shin Chan where EVERYTHING revolves around the titular vanilla character (and the co-star in some cases). Pokemon is about Pokémon in general, not about Nobita and Doraemon expies (Ash and Pikachu).
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Tierno
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>>26825244
That was my point anon. Regardless of what someone at OLM thinks might be better for the writing, TPC isn't going to sign off on it if it's something with such high risk of losing them viewers. If it's not broke, there's no point in trying risky stunts to fix it. The best example is "Let's turn the Rocket trio into edgy badasses", which was tried in BW and was so poorly received they didn't even wait until the series was over before changing them back to the way that actually worked. XY as a whole has come off as a massive "sorry we fucked up so bad with all the crazy changes we did in BW" apology, feeling like a very natural progression from DP. And it worked. It showed them what works, and one of those things is "just keep Ash on and write him like he has the experience he logically should have".
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>>26825305
I feel like this. If Ash fails again and gets reset once again, I'm not watching Sun/Moon. If there's a new MC, I'll at least give it a chance and probably end up watching it anyway, but if Ash can't win when he has everything going for him (special Froge, Waifu, "Strongest Team", all of it), then it's never going to happen and it's finally time to give up.
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>>26825326
At this point? After 19 years? It totally is.
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>>26825305
>I like Ash as a character, but he's one of the most unsuccessful main characters I've ever seen in any anime.

I think Joe Yabuki is more unsuccesful than him. IIRC He entered to the east championship because he fought Carlos Rivera, skipping the japanese championship (didn't win any japanese championship) and he lost both the world championship and his life against Mendoza.
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>>26825305
Doraemon's entire concept is centered around Nobita being a completely irredeemable fuckup.
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>>26825305
Shut up and stop making posts like this. He's not going anywhere.
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>>26825326
the blurb in every opening for the past 15 years says its a story about Ash.
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>>26825355

Kamen fuckin Rider was retooled after 28 years with Agito becoming more of a Sentai series. Why can't Pokemon do the same??
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>>26825383
During the Diamond and Pearl years, the blurb said "Ash and Dawn" so the blurb can be changed.
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>>26825381
>He's not going anywhere.

And that's idiotic. You can still promote the fucking games, and have your MC be successful in life, age, etc. You become the best in the games after all, the anime should at the very least give Ash more success.
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>>26825020
>not knowing about Japan's birthrates
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so when are we gonna hear more of the M19 ED and also find out where Yuyama went that inspired Azoth
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>>26825384
It wasn't though. The Kamen Rider franchise ended in 1989. They then tried starting the series up again in 2000 with Kuuga, and then its sequel Agito did some things slightly differently. It's an extremely different situation.
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>>26825407
But new games bring in new players (and watchers) and they can't relate to someone who has already become strong. Since Ash is THE protagonist of the anime and can't be replaced, he has to be reset every saga.
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>>26825397
>literally the berry opener from the beginning
>Ash, Serena, and Pikachu's faces when SCIENCE is coming and they want to punch it
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>>26825407
But he IS successful. He always manages to collect enough badges to qualify for the league, and in both AG and DP (and I guess BW) he was clearly shown to be at a level where he could have won.
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>>26825455
>Since Ash is THE protagonist of the anime and can't be replaced
>can't be replaced
Seriously though, that's asking for another BW and you know how well that went with everyone.
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>>26825423
>also find out where Yuyama went that inspired Azoth
He didn't go anywhere this year. Chances are they just went off pictures, like with movie 16.
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>>26825480
>he was clearly shown to be at a level where he could have won.

Then, I dunno...have him win? What harm would be done to the anime if that were to happen? None.
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>>26825495
Kids were fine with it, that's all that matters.
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>>26825455
It doesn't actually bring new players. A good half of the sales are actually from the older crowd rather than kids and if you're talking about Japan they've been having their whole issue with declining birth rates.
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>>26825305
>You really just want amourshipping to be canon don't you?
>Replacing Pikachu as a Mascot
>Replacing Ash

Sorry but no
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>>26825495
OLM and TPC know how well that went with everyone. They fired the fucking director over it. Where are people even getting this "hurr they need to replace Ash or we'll get another BW" bogeyman from?
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>>26825513
The kids really weren't fine with it. That's why BW was that shitty.
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>>26825507
Nowhere in that post did I imply they couldn't let him win.
Hell, from the looks of things, it seems they might make him do that this time around. We DO know he's getting to the finals.
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>>26825538
Yes they were. If anything they're less fine with XY.
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>>26825526
M8, there's going to be a point where they'll hard reset him like they did in BW because he's actually more competent now than he was back in DP if they keep him around.
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>>26825551
They're fine with YW.
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>>26825568
>he can't be competent or win anything he needs to be reset or else
Shudo get back in your grave
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>>26825568
>there's going to be a point where they do the exact thing that hurt the series so bad they fired the guy behind it and made the next series pretty much the exact opposite AGAIN
No, anon. They're not retarded people that want to kill their show and throw their money in the trash.
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>>26825551
The kids weren't fine with BW and they've been fine with XY. If you're basing this on the TV ratings then that's probably the worst thing you can use to measure.
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>>26825579
Exactly, kids like braindead shows.
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>>26825579
Actually YW has dropped considerably in popularity the last year
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>>26825597
It's an inevitability, though, Anon. What, is he going to get an Ash-(Final Starter Evolution) form with every starter from now on? Is he going to just take down Champion after Champion as he gets stronger and stronger in the future? Will they bring back Tobias, only to have him lose to Ash?

Even if he shows he has room to improve in the Kalos League and loses it, if he's never reset and they keep developing him and making him stronger, he'll eventually get too strong to stop. DP was close, but they at least had Toby to BS him out of the league.

What do you do when he's so strong, you can't bring out a Tobias?
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>>26825579
>>26825615
YW's actually dropped a lot since last year. In reality, "braindead shows" don't go very long.
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>>26825615
This isn't Nickelodeon anon

>>26825634
not that anon - but I don't want him to win EVERY league, I just want to see him win just one league for once
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>>26825595
I'm not saying Ash shouldn't be competent, I'm saying that it'll get to the point that he'd be too strong and they'd hard reset him just to supposedly keep him.
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>>26825629
>>26825643
Blame it on TV Tokyo
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>>26825669
No we blame it on you for trying to use a bad example.
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>>26825346
>And it worked. It showed them what works, and one of those things is "just keep Ash on and write him like he has the experience he logically should have".
But they're about to run into a wall with it because realistically Ash can't climb much higher than he has now, unless of course they reset him back to BW levels...

>>26825525
>Replacing Pikachu as a Mascot
Pikachu will always be there regardless of the human characters, that's for sure.

>>26825526
Well yeah, maybe he'll become Arceus himself eventually.
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>>26825615
sup Sutou
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>>26825728
>unless of course they reset him back to BW levels...
christ you're really desperate for him to be shit again
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>>26825634
As early as in AG they had him just barely lose against the guy that ended up winning the league. BW aside, they'd always had him grow throughout the series. Considering they already explained what would happen if he won a league (Champions' League), there's no problem with making him win leagues from now on. They've already made him manage to qualify for them every single gen, why would this be so different?
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>>26825513

It went fine in the merch department (a lot better than XY according to Bandai surveys and TV Tokyo's fiscal reports). However things turned bad after Roxie's battle and Unova's League loss
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>>26825728
>But they're about to run into a wall with it because realistically Ash can't climb much higher than he has now
Of course he can. He hasn't even MADE it to the Champions League yet, a league they introduced as the next step TEN YEARS ago.
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>>26825748
I don't, which is why I guess it'd be better to retire him as the protagonist.
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>>26825520

Bleak fact... Japan lost 1 million of inhabitants between 2011 and 2015.
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>>26825765
Did people hate the Roxie battle that much?
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>>26825778
Using flawed logic isn't helping your point any.
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>>26825643
妖怪ウォッチ (YW) '16/06/10(金) 18:25 - 28 3.5%
Goodra's chapter isn't in the top 10
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>>26825778
no Alain
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>>26825765
And when would that be then?

>>26825792
What flawed logic?
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>>26825750
>Considering they already explained what would happen if he won a league (Champions' League)

Sadly we don't know how that works, which makes me wonder: let's assume that the order of which E4 you fight first goes from weakest to strongest (and that order is determined by some kind of test performed between them periodically), just like the games. If he wins against at least one of them, does that make him at the very least part of the E4, thus replacing the weakest guy?
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>>26825793
That's nice, Scott. Last time I checked, you were shitposting about "XY only got 3.5% this week, the show is clearly doomed and will probably be canceled soon" last year, weren't you?
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>>26825750
He's getting to the finals this time around, but the big question will be if they find some excuse to not have him win.
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>>26825750
And then in DP, he was the only one to take down any number of Pokémon belonging to the eventual winner. He got even better than he was before, back in AG. And then they reset him.

The problem is that he eventually will have to win the Champion's League, or whatever 'next level challenge' they place before him. Even if they take him to Alola, if he's just as strong as he is now, he'll only get stronger there, and he'll only get stronger after that.

If he's never reset, he'll have to win everything eventually. In the end, those are the only two options, even if him being reset is a long time from now.
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>>26825793

We already knew about that, Scott. Don't pretend to be less retarded than you are.

The point is that jap. Kids and junior high students have more games to choose than in 2013. There's YW, Minecraft, Inazuma Eleven (Hino hinted at a revival of the franchise for 2017) and fuckin Monster Hunter (franchise which got an anime series that's going to debut in late 2016). Pokemon isn't actually the default gateway franchise for newbies anymore
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>>26825455
The Pokemon anime reached its apex in viewership in the 90s, and has been decreasing ever since, both in Japan and in the filthy gaijin countries. Even if you take into consideration the decrease on TV viewership as a whole, and Japan's population troubles.

The games are another thing entirely, but even total sales (main games only, not considering remakes that sell even lower) have slight declines between generations, except for D/P/P that sold better than R/S/E. Though, they're high enough overall to keep Nintendo afloat against Sony and >microsoft.
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>>26825827
>Alan stole that guy's mega device from Volcanion Movie
>can mega evolve all his Pokémon
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>>26825827
He's going up against Alan in the finals, and we already know Alan isn't being presented as some kind of impossible wall. "Lost the finals after a very close match" is still a considerable improvement over any of his prior leagues
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>>26825827
in that case we'll have to wait for more titles to find out

>>26825838
>Even if they take him to Alola, if he's just as strong as he is now, he'll only get stronger there, and he'll only get stronger after that.
is that how you think when you move onto the next Pokemon game after beating the previous one
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>>26825819
>>26825846
the fuck is Scott?
I'm not saying it's a great rating, but..
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>>26825848
EVERYTHING that started in the 90s reached its apex in viewership in the 90s because live TV viewing in general has decreased over the last decades.
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Whatever happens during the league, just get ready to brace yourself. Future threads may explode, whether he wins or loses.
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>>26825851
In addition to a potential threat of TF hijacking the league at some point.
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>>26825728
I doubt Pikachu would have been popular to the children if it didn't have its place in the anime. Taking Pikachu out is already a mistake.
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>>26825861
Using TV ratings and top 10 lists to gauge popularity in general is flawed.
AG rarely ever made it into the top 10.
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>>26825861
It is a great rating, though. As is whatever rating Pokemon got that week. You clearly don't understand how ratings work.
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>>26825882
The writers must know that TF interrupting the League would cause fan outrage at such a blatant Tobias-tier asspull for a League cockblock
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>>26825885
That's because, no matter if Ash ever is replaced or not, there will always be a Pikachu in the anime. A yellow rat as shouldermon will always be a constant in Pokemon, nobody is arguing otherwise.

Also, there's the thing about what to do with the TR seiyus if there is a change in MCs.
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>>26825887

Can someone give me a link that shows all the ratings for AG and DP? I've seen it before and it had every episode listed but I lost it. Someone give me a link.
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>>26825916
What do you want that for?
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>>26825922
Just out of curiosity. I want to see how each individual episode did.
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>>26825911
>Also, there's the thing about what to do with the TR seiyus if there is a change in MCs.
wait a minute I've seen this shit discussed a few days ago
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>>26825881
You already have people chimping out over him getting to the finals.
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>>26825928
You can't tell that from looking at the ratings of one single show in a vacuum.
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>>26825916

AG's case was different. There was a silver age for shonen series between late 2002 and mid 2006 (Prince of Tennis, Inuyasha, Detective Conan, Hikaru no Go, Naruto, One Piece, Kochikame, One Piece, Atashin'chi, Gash Bell, Black Jack and Eyeshield 21 were at some point fighting for entering in the top 10. Everyone with higher-than-usual-for-that time ratings). Pokemon was still the top rated anime for young children. It was a very different situation compared to nowadays.
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>>26825790
BW had it's problems in the beginning, Elesa's gym battle start the spiral and Roxie's made it worse.

In short, yes.
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>>26825996
I'm glad May got one of the highest viewerships of all the female companions besides Misty. No wonder her fanbase is so large due to animes popularity in the early 2000's.
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>>26825936

They've a "lifetime" contract with Pokemon.
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>>26825911
>nobody is arguing otherwise
no but you insinuated that Pikachu would still be as popular as mascot if it wasn't in the anime.

>there will always be a Pikachu in the anime
Starting the whole series with a new Pikachu? I don't see the point in doing that when there is Ash. The new MC merely becomes an Ash 2.0.
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I just want to see Ash stick in it Serena, is that too much to ask?
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>>26826000
I just rewatched a bit of it. XY Ash would've NEVER agreed to that.
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>>26826031
>no but you insinuated that Pikachu would still be as popular as mascot if it wasn't in the anime.
Not that guy but really, you've had other characters on screen with Pikachu, so it isn't exactly farfetched. NotBonnie in the Cilan and Brock special, the Diancie movie, Jimmy. You know they've avoided putting Pikachu with anyone else but Ash after OS.

Hell, DP had that baker's Pikachu become Raichu.
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>>26826055
Yes. Stick o fanart.
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>>26826071
>six on three
fuck me
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>>26826055
Serena doesn't have a Braixen tail and Ash doesn't go around carrying sticks for Braixen.
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>>26826071
He accepted a 3 v 2
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Honestly, I couldn't give a crap about any of those "ships". If Ash will ever, ever decide to give a crap about any of the girls, be it those he already hanged out with or upcoming ones, it won't be now, but rather, when he grows up.

It's too fucking early to make CHILDREN smother and kiss each other up while having serious relationships in the anime, of all places. If they were more grown up, I'd at least understand, which might be the writers' intent, to tease all possible relations Ash could have in the near future, but all in all, in the end, his focus is still pretty much becoming a strong trainer and there probably won't be any resolution to any of this shit unless a time skip occurs because by then, all girls Ash will grow to like will become "friends" at best.

And that's if Ash won't turn out to be completely obsessed with pokemon so much, he'd rather not give a shit about a relationship until he grows much older and has done everything he could have possibly done.
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>>26826104
but she has a Fennekin tail

frubble time
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>>26826017
Fuck off already.
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>>26826123
>can this bitch stop already
>I'm scared
>I just want something to eat
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>>26826144
done
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>>26826144
>Clemont after he finds out Fennekin Serena has Ash drop training and his fear of losing the bowl runs rampant
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>>26826112
Then, there was really no point in pushing Serena's crush on Ash at all? It was empty teasing?
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New bred time
>>26826157
>>26826157
>>26826157
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>>26826111
He accepted that because Grant wanted to go all out with his Chateau strategies.
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>>26826112
>If Ash will ever, ever decide to give a crap about any of the girls
>he already gives a crap about Serena
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>>26826187
As a friend, yes, a very good one.
As a love interest, not at all.
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>>26825996
Yeah, and that's exactly why the entire "it wasn't in the top 10 this week, the show is probably getting canceled soon" Scottshit is so retarded. It's not a fucking contest and doesn't particularly represent how many people are watching the show.
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>>26826088
I am just really opposed to the idea of replacing Ash. And I just don't want to see another replica of Ash if they are going to make a new character.
It's starting a series where we are going to lose a lot of loved Pokemon like Charizard, Sceptile, Infernape, Greninja. With how badass Ash's team is getting, I still want to see more screen time with him.
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>>26826112
m8, they show kids in relationships in anime and they've shown that Ash actually gives a shit about Serena.
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>>26826239
See
>>26826201
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>>26826201
This isn't Dawn we're talking about.
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>>26826256
>asks her to join him
>XY59
>things go bad she's the one that he turns to or pulls him out of it
Pretty sure that's more than just a good friend.
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