The time has come to vote, /vp/. Which group of leaked fina

>>26614407
>Fire/Dark
Nigga how much denial are you in? It is more blatantly Fire/Fighting than Emboar.

The first leak was always cancer and the last one looks good enough that I'd be content with it being real, but both of them are fake.

>>26614426
It's a cheap/dirty fighter, like a heel. Look at it "breaking a table" on pikachu in the full image, it is too angry/edgy to be goody-two-shoes Fighting (which is called Hero in Japan).

>neither isn't the majority

????????

>>26614458
people are Desperate

None of them you dumb cunt.

>>26614471
...that option is included

>>26614452
Stop this meme.
Fighting is Fighting in Japanese too.

I'll box stater or not buy gen 7 game at all.

>>26614452
>what is scrafty

In all honesty, I like this Owl than the last one. Last one looked so off to me

>>26614407
i dont think either set are real, but these ones at least seem to fit the style of pokemon more so than ballio and friends

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>>26614488
A Dark type

>>26614488
Dark/Fighting you nigg.

>>26614503
Primeape then.

>/vp/ falls again for some blatant fakes

Fuck's sake
And of course, some moron will reply to this with "muh Wottergate", because clearly one leaks being real among thousands and thousands of fake leaks means every leak ever is now real

I really like Robin Hoot, and Heel Litten looks decent even though I'm sick of bipedal anthro fire starters

>>26614509
A boxing pig monkey.

>>26614509
What makes you say Primeape is a dirty fighter. It's just a mad monkey.

>>26614488
a nigger

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>>26614407
These ones are sick as hell, and actually fit the style, would use all of them.

Can't we just use these as the official fakes from now on, and forget that Ballio and the digi boys even existed.

They are real. I don't like it because this kinda kills all the waiting and controversy.

>>26614452
>Fighting
>Hero in Japanese
It's not. Fucking kill yourself my man.

>>26614526
You sad that something could be too angry to be a goody two shoes Fighting type, and Primeape disproves that.

>>26614407
If these are real, fuck am I gonna have trouble picking a starter they all look so good

>hoodie archer owl that uses its hoodie strings to make a bow and can close up its hoodie around its face to ignore faggots, fucking genius
>dark massive bara wrestler cat with a belt that shoots fire and roasts you while it smashes your skull with its fists
> fairy sea lion mermaid that has things around the hair that splits up and and attacks you while it sits around ignoring plebs

damn I want these to be real so bad

>>26614452
>"it's a fighter"
>it's not fighting type, even though I'm describing it as a fighter
What warped logic. It is clearly based around fighting and fire. If they wanted it to be dark type, they would've used a motif that wasn't fucking wrestling.

>>26614587
>>26614480
>expecting anything else from someone who still thinks dark is "dirty fighting"
Shit, these retards even think Dark's name is "scum type" in Japanese.

anyone have a picture of the other group of final evos?

POKEJUNGLE CONFIRMED.

>>26614633
Owl also has some form of glasses or lenses. For better aiming or seeing in the dark maybe.

I also can imagine how they would play the feather-arrow idea in the anime. It would strike from the distance and always stay in the shadows, protecting our heros from the team R or other threat.

>>26614698
There's a other group?

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>>26614426
I don't watch much wrestling, or any at all, but he looks like the one who is the wrestler the audience is supposed to hate. He looks like he gets into the ring and says "I THOUGHT I WAS IN (INSERT CITY ARENA) BUT I GUESS I WALKED INTO A GYNECOLOGIST'S OFFICE, BECAUSE ALL I SEE ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES"

Wow, my pretend shit-talking on its behalf just made me fall in love with that show-boating, shit-talking cat. Too bad he, like Ballio, most likely isn't real. And if one of those groups IS real, I either lose him, or Ballio.

Though I guess if I have to lose him or Ballio, I'd rather lose Ballio, because this guy comes with Robin Hoot, and I can take the Mermaid, meanwhile Ballio just comes with a shitty owl man and literally my mom's panther.

>>26614407
I usually never find myself wishing that 'leaks' end up being real, but holy shit this new batch is incredible. Robin Hoot is a genius design and would wind up as one of my favorite starters ever. Popplio's evo totally redeems everything about it's shitty first form, and is leagues better than Rapelio. The Fire Cat is my least favorite of the three, but I don't hate it by any means. I hope we don't get another Fire/Fighting as much as the next guy, but the design could be much worse.

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The only thing worse than terrible fake starters are fake starters that are good enough that you'll look back and wish they were real when the actual ones get revealed.

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not happening, guys.

>>26614805
Ruined my night. I should have known Gamefreak would never design anything this cool.

>>26614805
Thats just his asumptions though

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>>26614805

>>26614805
yes and you don't gain any exp in the black/white """tutorial""" :-)

> First leak:
Owltair: Meh tier
Cannon panther: Meh tier
Ballio: Great tier

> Second leak
Robin Hoot: God tier
Musculitten: Meh tier
Mermaid seal: God tier

Obviously the second ones.

>thinking these could be legit

I see it would be toor easy for GF to please your low standards.

>>26614805
no I refuse to believe

Why did litten grow an extra claw?

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>>26614407
The owl is cool, the other two are hideous abominations.

>>26614805
People have to stop believing his words like he is a god or something, he is a regular person making predictions, that's all.

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I honestly don't fucking know because I'm not a retard unlike every fucking else who think they know their shit despite the fact that /vp/ has been terribly wrong a few often times in the past

But I'd rather a actual sea lion than generic waifu fodder for the petty ones who want their sea lions to be elegant so desperately desu.

>Another Fire/Fighting
>Thinking it won't be another Fire/Fighting

Must be easy to live this deluded.

>>26614805
People give this turd way too much credit.

I wish Robinhoot and friends were real, all three are great, but the font for confidential looks off

>>26614407
That Litten is fucking terrible. I don't want barashit.

There should be a both option

Or just a balio and mermaid waifu option

We need popplio to be the first starter with gender-determined evos, and to break the stupid 87.5%-12.5% gender ratio
>inb4 muh patterns

>>26614805
Is this guy Gamefreak? If he's not Gamefreak why is his word law?

>>26614805
He also thinks we're getting Synchro evolution so what does he know.

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>>26614407
I'm just glad this new set emerged and BTFO the earlier edgy fakes

>>26614407
b-but popplio was not for sexual...

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Evoluthin other than ballio will kill Popplio, sadly.

>>26614407
I want these to be real so much but deep down I know it's not happening.

>Neither is winning by a considerable mayority
NO FUN ALLOWED

>>26615151
Ballio is the hero we need.

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>>26614746
>He looks like he gets into the ring and says "I THOUGHT I WAS IN (INSERT CITY ARENA) BUT I GUESS I WALKED INTO A GYNECOLOGIST'S OFFICE, BECAUSE ALL I SEE ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES"

>>26614407
*Fires belt*
Heh, nothing personnel kid

>>26614407
So always gay water type starter?

>>26614407
I want to say Waifuplio, the other two, especially Litten's evo, look horrible.

>>26615117
The only problem I have with this is RNG. Unless we're given a gender option, or gender is based on the gender of our character or something, I'd have to restart until I got qt mermaid waifu.

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>the big panther thing is so extremely generic it had to be described as "the other one"

>>26614407
None hopefully
But since no one has been able to draw good fake evos so far, I doubt GFs will be better

It wouldnt be hard actually, they'd just have to focus on the animal aspect unlike all the fake evos artists who all wanted humanlike stuff (muh assassin's creed, muh robin hood, muh evil clown, muh hulk cat...)

>>26615131
An incredible amount more than you do.

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>>26614452
fighting types usually have honorable fighting styles, this Litten3 is pelvic thrusting fire spins, spitting what I believe is poison and hitting people with tables/chairs.

I'd believe Fire/Dark until we see the real evos instead of pessimistically choosing Fire/Fighting.

>>26614407
If the owl learns Thousand Arrows and has an ability which powers up "Arrow moves" (maybe Mega Launcher) I'm in

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>>26615739
And suddenly these leaks went from shit to GOAT to me.

>>26614529
But Ballio and friends are so much better than this lot.

The owl looks way too off to be a pokemon design, it's too consistent, they put too much thought on it. Popplio is literally a girl now and i don't think GF would do that.

>>26615824
yes i sure love leopard the firecat, truly the most ingenious design

>>26615896
It's miles better than this tony the tiger rip off.

>>26615925
>tony the tiger rip off.
I've lost count of how many times I've seen people force this.

You're fucking spineless, friendo.

>>26614407
Did anybody make better names than "Owlarcher"?

Just some shit I came up in the 30 seconds it took me to type this:

>Quillver
>Pyriger

No fucking clue on mermaid though

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>>26614407
These designs actually look like pokemon to me. I've never thought any leaks could be real in the past until this set came out.

What's painful is the amount of time we have to wait to see what the actual evolutions are.

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>>26615817
>>26615739

It'll get some souped up version of Leafage, or maybe a Flying-type bow move:

>Quill Darts (Flying-type, 25bp, Physical): Fires a volley of 2-5 feather darts

>Grass Arrow (Grass-type, 60bp, Physical): Knocks and fires a long blade of grass like an arrow. Never misses. Has a high chance of scoring a crit hit

>Arrow Rain (Flying-type, 90bp, Physical): Shoots a series of arrows that rain down on the opposing team, dealing damage to both foes.

>>26616058
If I had to guess it would be a grass water shuriken. Priority 2-5 lower powered hits

>>26615925
>just a cat
>better than rath with fire belt

>>26616056
These are very close to the concept art we had for the XY starters. Those concepts also showed the starters final evos "showing off."

>Greninja in various ninja poses, resting by a tree
>Chesnaught flexing and showing off its Spiky Shield
>Delphox flashing its wand and posing

These leaks show just the right amount of personality

>>26616056
This guy is growing on me way more than the other two. I loved Owltair too but this one just fits Pokémon better plus has that robinhood theme going on for him.

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>>26616068
>>26615978
Maybe it's because I'm not a furrfag into bara shit like you are. I prefer the canon cat much better.

>>26616070
Exactly, and the owl has so much goddamn detail whoever created it is one creative motherfucker and should be hired by GF. Unless GF did create it.

I mean, using its own body parts to make a bow? Dope ass grass hood? And it only makes sense that an owl with great vision would become an archer.

Reminds me a lot of the Greninja treatment, a regular little frog becomes a badass ninja with a long tongue gimmick.

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>>26614743
Eh... yeah.. maybe?

the fact that GF has done nothing to have these taken down from various sites is proof they're fake.

>>26616097
They didn't do that with Wottergate or the Greninja/Hawlucha leak either, numbnuts

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>>26616094
Fake, all 3 turn into edgy clunky looking badasses. Artist tried to hard.

>>26616097
Did they do that with gen 5 or 6?

>>26616115
No

>>26616111
And that tony the tiger over there isn't trying hard either?

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>>26616093
>>26614407
Oshawott concept art for reference. This was written over by somebody who could read moonrunes, but the comparison can still be made

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>>26616092
Maybe it's because I'm not a furrfag into beastiality shit like you are. I prefer the creative tiger much better.

I can play that game too

>>26615120
he has insider info

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>>26616124
Burmy, for a Gen IV mon as reference

>>26616121
That's just one out of 3, two if you count the owl archer as edgy. And the cat actually looks like a Pokemon.

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>>26616136
Greninja for reference. Going to post the rest of its line + one more

Anyone who likes the mermaid seal is very likely a disgusting animal fucker and should be castrated.

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>>26616145

>>26616148
>stop liking what I don't like

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>>26616156

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>>26616127
>I prefer the creative tiger much better
I got you here. Just another run of the mill bara shit fan.

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>>26616163
last one for now.

Hopefully this has helped to sway some people to see the argument for these being real

>>26616141
>And the cat actually looks like a Pokemon.
Unfortunately

>>26616171
Thanks anon. The artist could have just copied the style but there was just so much creativity they made it seem real. I guess only time will tell.

I wish someone would "leak" the second evos.

>>26616110
>>26616118
Why?

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>>26616168
>I prefer the canon cat much better
I got you here. Just another run of the mill bestiality shit fan.

>>26616189
Eh, they either didn't care or just didn't want to make it seem like they were real by freaking out and taking them down. Then people would know. These very well could be real but GF won't take them down on fear of giving away if they're real or not.

I remember they only cared about the dude that got XY early and started filming it.

>>26616129
Well, I think they're full of shit.

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>>26616171
Braixen is cute, CUTE!

>>26616189
It doesn't matter if they take them down. People would still have them and saved. Plus let's say serebii or another big Pokemon fan site hosted these pictures. Then GF was like take them down it in all just confirms them.

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>>26616191
Go jack off to tony the tiger you parrot.

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LOL

>>26614407
This has to be the most disgusting lineup I've seen.
I'm sick of the hooded owl meme, and ANOTHER bipedal fire type? Looks like shitty furbait. And don't even get me started on the fucking mermaid clown.
At least the last batch had Ballio.

>>26616141
Nigga, he draw like a million poses for all of them, just compare them to the model sheets from the gen VI pokemon. He went full anime sheet.

>>26616250
dumb frogposter

>>26616260
What's wrong with it?

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>>26616315
>tiny wrists
>five fingers paw that splits like one of a chameleon's

>>26616315
Everything. Look at that yokai watch tier Bullshit

>>26614873
BAD TASTE BAD TASTE BAD TASTE BAD TASTE BAD TASTE BAD TASTE

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>>26616330
>>26616331
You expect anything different from Pokemon?

>>26616331
>Yogoy watch
Ballio and Owltair are more yokai than battlecat

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>>26616171
If anything it makes it more fare because all of these reference pics have their names, while the "leaks" just have tiger 3 owl 3 and sea lion 3.

What kind of reference just lists the animal and doesn't give a name for people to work with?

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>>26616386
Owltair and Ballio are much more level headed than this goofy looking lucha libre tiger.

And why are they doing MORE luchador Pokémon anyway? Are they using him to promote Pekken 2?

>>26616415
These leaks might be the concept art of the concept art they later release

>>26616375
Yes. You should as well

>>26616417
Owltair has no gimmick to it at all while ballio does, but they're so far from pokemon designs it's not even funny.

>>26616434
Owltair is one huge gimmick. I like him though.

>>26616438
Which is? At least the most recent owl has the archer theme and a wing bow.

>>26614407
>tfw robin hoot is the best pokemon design you've seen in years and it's probably fake

Feels bad man, especially considering how gamefreak is a master on the art of fucking up pokemon designs like no other.

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>>26614407
>>26615720
Wait a sec...

If these are fake, they are really good fakes. They actually look like pokemon that could exist, not just muh badass designs like ballio and co

Also, I don't see why they couldn't make another feminine looking starter

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>>26615720
>Tiger wrestler
>A heel
>Not based off of Tiger Mask

>>26615720
If it was Fire/Fighting it'd probably have more of a chance to be good. I still don't know why every single one has been mixed.

There's no way that litten evo wouldn't be the fourth fire/fighting starter.

Honestly, what is gamefreak smoking if this ends up being the case? Why do they keep doing this? What is the reasoning?

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The newest set of "leaks" are fake due to the fact that Litten is a literal Gobi Sand Cat and is definitely Fire/Ground. We had a type data leak a while back that confirmed this.

Popplio's Water/Fighting, if I recall.

There have been no 'leaks', though the closest we have to rough ideas are the following:

>The Rowlet Final evo present in OP's image
>Ballio as a Water/Fighting

There has been no accurate final Litten evo because no one seems to realize he's a fucking Gobi Sand Cat.

>>26614688
While he's wrong about Hero, Dark is evil and all of its moves (Beat Up, Feint Attack, Sucker Punch, Parting Shot) refer to dirty, under-handed tactics

Which 100% describes a heel wrestler and thus could easily make Litten3 a Fire/Dark fighter

>>26614516
muh Wottergate

>>26618080

Aw shit, that's kawaii, nigga. Didn't know these little tykes were a thing.

Also, you seem to know your shit, so I'll trust you.

>>26618080

How is it a Gobi Sand Cat? Because it has some stripes? You realize the Jap name has the word "tabby" in it right? It's a tabby.

>>26618080
Yes, and Fennekin was based on a literal Fennex Fox and was definitely Fire/Ground.

>>26616470
Bird of Prey Assassin mixed with Mysterious Circus Knife Thrower.

If they gonna look like this I have no problem to choose neither.
Right after recieving one I'll dump the fucker in the pc box.

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>>26614579
[Citation fugging needed]

Well I don't mind bipedal this time around IF and only IF the secondary type is Dark or Ground (whatever you like it from the leaks we got).

>>26618350
Circus knife throwers aren't associated with being hooded and mysterious, what the fuck. People are trying so hard to see a theme when there is nothing. The theme is that it's just an owl who picks up an assassin motif. And that's it. There is nothing circus related about it. People were trying to see the stupid contrived ringleader bullshit from the first form, what happened to that?

>>26614407
autistic """"leak"""" thread

>>26614407
I'm disgusted by the number of people itt who wish these extremely human-like fakemons were real
If you love humanized animals so much, there are plenty of franchises for you
I want my starters feral, like they used to be before Gen 3 and the great digimonification

>People think balio and friends are real

Fucking WHY? They're not even close to Ohmura's style. And owl and cat have some really long bodies, they all look like they were drawn by a western artist too. Owlman got some roothoot face shit going on too, and why would he lose the ability of using his wings as a weapon, at least the other "leak" still kept that.

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>>26618483
It's all reasonably inspired from and consistent with Rowlett you dumbfuck.

>>26614407
>there are people who consider those on pic related real
Whatever, I'm picking neither.

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>>26615720

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>>26618515
>By a western artist

Little reminder that James Turner is indeed someone that does exists, inside Game Freak nonetheless and has indeed created monster designs for games.

>>26618080
wrong the SITE had a listing of 6 pokemon types in this order: GRASS, FLYING, GROUND, FIRE, water, FIGHTING

everyone is questioning why GROUND appears BEFORE Fire in the type order though

some assume it means ROwlett changes into a GRASS/GROUND

>>26618515

>Ohmura's style.

you have literally no idea of what ohmura's style is or means. besides what are you implying? that ohmura designs all the pokemon? wrong
that ohmura does all the pokemon model sheets ? also wrong

>>26614458
It is now

>>26618395
>>26618593
>>26621492

I also hope it's all fake.

>>26614407
The only good one out of those three is the grass-type. What the fuck even happened in that Water-type, and another Fire/Fighting would make me insane.

>>26615720
You know, I thought this was absolutely stupid until I saw it shooting fire out of its belt.

>>26621987
>inb4 Rowlett's evolution's feet look off

Rowlett's feet look off too.

>B-but how does it make THAT face on its final evolution

Look at the middle evolution's face pattern more closely. The heart shape gets SHARPER on its forehead as it descends, meaning that the plumage in there has descended into its beak as it finally evolves. This very same cream-like plumage also covers almost above its eyes, alluding to a barn owl's face.

I'm gonna do a slight edit to explain this shit and it might look silly as shit but these leaks have more to them than meets the eyes and I'm also probably this close to unveiling final form's actual face.

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>>26622147

SO it's basically this, as if it wasn't obvious enough.

I realize this is all just kind of horrible, but it's just so people can realize that this little shit does indeed have some middle ground into becoming THAT at the very end, it doesn't just become into a barn owl out of nowhere, the transition already began in the middle form

so fucking KUDOS to whoever made this bord, be it Game Freak or some shitty ass artist, because shit does make sense, it's not just plastered.

>>26622344
>file name
>Not Owl The Edge
Not even tryin. But seconded to all that you said.

>>26621987
God these suck.

Rowlet and Popplio final evolutions are way too jarring to be real, and could the Litten line be more boring if they tried? It gains no defining features at all aside from the tip of its tail being on fire.

>>26622386

I miiiight be onto something regarding the Litten line, but it might be more far'fetched than you think.

There were some people who were calling it Cannonther and at first, I didn't really think much about those besides the fact that it could be based on a cannon, but that would be rather dull.

However, despite all Fire type moves there are, there's strikingly not a single attack about what I'm going to bring out about now.

The Fire Ball.

Seriously, there is NOT a attack named such and it just FUCKING clicked.

Litten coughs up hair balls.

The middle cat is playing with something on fire, but it's hardly impressive, but it might as well be something he had spitten out.

But if what I'm thinking of is right, that big old sleek shit, upon evolving, finally learns Fire Ball, which might be a new move for many other pokemon, possibly along with Eruption. Litten's hair spikes as shown in artwork previously. There could be a slight chance of this guy being a Typhlosion in disguise and possibly bursting fire from its back. Not sure how THAT would be, but it could either be a lion mane to a fiery current of fire going down its slender figure ala Rapidash. Fuck if I know.

And I'd explain fucking Bullio over here, but I'm so tired, it's as easy as searching "male sea lion facts" and how bulky and aggressive they actually are as well as upper body strength.

>>26618101
No they aren't. Pragmatism is just a small part of dark type attacks. The Japanese name is literally just "evil" or "wicked" and the attacks are stereotypical villain stuff.

So, if wrasslan heel tiger is the real thing and its main gimmick is wrasslan moves, how long until /asp/ and co go to town with new OC of this cat?

>>26614805
Thanks god

>>26614805
Finally it's over.

People need to stop believing in obvious fakes.

>>26614407
>neither is not at 99%

Furfags are mentally ill and should be hunted down

>>26614805
who cares?

>>26614407
actually makes sense that rowlet shoots little leaf/feather projectiles then evolves into an archer that can shoot actual arrow projectiles using its wings instead of just throwing them

either way, artist did a good job

>>26614407
>putting random types out of your ass

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>>26614407

We fucking know for a fact these are fake you stupid fuck. They're the same artist as this

>>26621482
Ohmura did the pokemon art for Sun and Moon dumbass. It's common knowledge already.

>you have literally no idea of what ohmura's style is or means.

Actually you fucking don't. Style=way they're drawn.

Those fakes aren't in his style at all since they're mocked to look like official art. Looks like the artist tried to mimic more of a Sugimori route with the lines, which was the wrong way to go for this gen. But of course you were too stupid to figure that out.

>>26622951
This hasn't been proven yet stop stating it as fact

>>26622621
Dark is literally evil type, bug is se against dark because of Kamen Rider.

>>26622980
It's literally the same drawing style. It's already confirmed as fact that the artist is the same.

>>26622995
Then link us a source of the artist saying it was them.

If not than you're just assuming

>>26622995
Just because its the same style doesn't mean its that exact artist. I don't think you understand just how many artists out there have gotten Sugimori's style down to a T, it could be any really good Fakemon artist.

>>26623050
Even if it's an assumption, it is still 99% likely that it's the same artist. As such, it should be widely thought of as a fact that it's the same artist.

>>26623064
>Even if it's an assumption... it should be widely thought of as a fact
Good job.

>>26623110
It's fake anyway, so anything to get people to stop posting that shit would be good.

>>26614407
Why is Huntress Wizard here?

>>26623064
The styles aren't even the same the artist that drew the fennekin evolutions art style had to have improved immensely

>>26623209
Don't even bother, his response is going to be something like "well obviously he did improve over these years".

>>26623060

Either way it's clearly not official art.

>>26615720
Dat Asian Mist

>>26623298
Correction: either way you have arbitrarily decided that it is clearly not official art.

>>26623310
It's fake, so he's objectively correct that it's not official art.

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>>26614858
>>26615120
>being in denial that much

>>26622951
Except the artist denied making it.

>>26623361
Of course they would deny making a fake when retards still believe it.

>>26614805
Now i want them to be real.

>>26623372
Nice, so you went from claiming the artist admitted having made these images himself to saying he's denying it.

>>26623405
They don't have to admit it for anyone with half a brain to recognize that they're the same artist.

It's like blindly believing a blood splattered man with a bloodstained knife that he didn't murder the victim lying next to him.

>>26614407
The tiger
I'm a bara fag

>>26614407
None of them, you retard.

>>26623420
I don't see how that changes the fact that you are pulling information from your ass only to backpedal with new lines of thought that completely go against your past arguments.

>>26623462
You're just denying that it's blatantly and obviously the same artist.

>>26623473
No Mr Backpedal, it's not. The artist has denied any involvement and the art style in his Fennekin does not resemble these leaks at all (note the inconsistent line art and lack of shading). If you want to prove to people that these are fake you should invent some more convincing arguments.

>>26623548
To be honest, I don't give a shit what the artist says or not, we need everything we can use to get people to stop posting these shitty fakes. Even bullshit should be utilized if it makes people stop.

>>26623562
Watson, you're a genius! What a foolproof plan! Let's convince those pesky believers that these are fake by using non-convincing arguments, they will never see it coming!

>>26615720
Fire/poison then?

These are interesting fakes. Personally, I like the other set of "leaks" more, but these are growing on me. At any rate, once the second forms are officially released (how long does this usually take to happen?), we'll virtually which set of "leaks" is real, if either even are.

These designs appeal to three types of interests: the grass owl is for players who like the analytical or nerdy, the fire cat looks cool, and the water starter is girly.

I like how the owl's plumage is a makeshift bow and arrow, but the rest of the design looks uninspired and lazy (just plain white legs and body). The fire cat looks fun, and if it is a "dirty" fighter (fire/dark) while still being able to have access to moves like Close Combat, then I'd be very happy with that. But if it's another fire/fighting, which it looks to be, then I'd be dumbfounded that GF just doesn't seem to understand that people are sick of that combination.

The water starter seems too biased for me. Delphox wasn't masculine by any means, but this thing seems to want to shut out the majority of the male audience altogether. It looks elegant, but it doesn't seem to keep any of the characteristics/inspirations of popplio (which can also be said of the tiger wrestler in comparison to litten).

I wouldn't be terribly upset if they were real, but I'm not banking on it.

>>26623614
>once the second forms are officially released (how long does this usually take to happen?)
Last time it was one month before release. Quilladin, Braixen and Frogadier were leaked via CoroCoro on Sep 9 and XY were released Oct 12.

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they are fucking awful and the original three are far better and if you like these abominations your opinions are shit and I hope you fucking kill yourself and in the afterlife muhammad ali punches your fucking jaw off your face because FUCK YOU for having viewpoints that are different than mine

>>26623656
What about BW? I don't remember clearly, but I'm pretty sure they weren't all revealed at the same time. One of them (I think it was Servine) leaked in some sort of anime height comparison chart

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>>26623562
>Even bullshit should be utilized if it makes people stop
Bullshit is never the answer. I think these are fake too, but proof is needed, until then, it falls on the "probably fake" category.

>>26623614
I agree with most of what you said, but with only the second stages, it is hard to say, only if all 3 second stages are extremely different from these "leaks", and even then, Chesnaught and Samurott exists.
Also, I like that the cat put itself on fire. And GF has been acknowledging the girly fanbase since the introduction of fairy type and Sylveon.

>>26623714
I thiiiiiink the Gen V starter evos weren't officially publicized at all until release.

>>26623739
>I agree with most of what you said, but with only the second stages, it is hard to say, only if all 3 second stages are extremely different from these "leaks", and even then, Chesnaught and Samurott exists.

It's true that one of the trio usually changes more drastically than the others, which is why having all three 2nd stage starters will let us see if any one of them is close to these final leaks. If 2/3 make sense, it could be probable, but if none of them are I think we can call it a day.

>And GF has been acknowledging the girly fanbase since the introduction of fairy type and Sylveon.

I agree that GF wants to appeal to the girly fanbase, but I haven't seen that done using the starters (yet). But it's possible.

>>26617177
>Implying he shouldn't be based on Ernest "The Cat" Miller

>>26623789
Second stages usually look similar to their first stage, so chances are that they will look somewhere inbetween first stages and most "leaks" are very high. Maybe if we get a type change on second stage it could help, if for example the cat got a rock subtype, it would invalidate those, since the chances of it getting rock type only to lose it on 3rd stage are almost zero.

>>26621987
Ballio is life, ballio is love

>>26614407

>Water Fairy

It's going to be Water Psychic and you know it

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>Wrestling heel Tony the Figer is cool, and I wanted Litten anyway
>But that means no Rapelio

Help

>>26614407
People actually find these to be cool? If it was real this would easily be the worst set of starters gamefreak would ever released.

Most pokemon looking one is the popplio final evo.

>>26614805

I'm still mad mega pidgeot isn't electric/Flying John Serebii

>>26614407
If those are real, this might be the first gen I box my starter.

>>26616263
Seriously, these fakes all suck ass. Can't they at least look good?

>>26614407

I like both Mermaid Seal and Ballio

Honestly these fakes tell me one thing

And that's I feel there's absolute no way to not make Popplio's final evo fucking cool

Then again Samurott exists

>>26614529
This.

>>26618987
>some assume it means ROwlett changes into a GRASS/GROUND

but that would be stupid

>>26616263
The Robin Hood motif fits Rowlet's theme of arrow-like feathers.

Fire-type starters have always been bipedal, even when their pre-evolutions were quadrupedal.

I actually like mermaid sea lion, and it's certainly a lot more Pokemon-like than "Ballio."

>>26624089

It would for Rowlet

But it's not impossible

Nincada went through 3 different types

bug/ground/flying/ghost

We also scorupi be Bug/poison into Drapion's Poison/Dark

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I just want my Popplio to be named Pompy

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>>26614407
I want fug dat seal so HARD

>that ugly as fuck fire/fighting barab8 fire starter

for the love of god please be fake

>>26615720
Wait. Wait. Wait.
Who's the qt p'tootie next to Ash?

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>>26616517
As much as I want to call mine Rath, I'm probably going to call mine Aubie.

>>26616331
>muh buzzwords

>>26614407
I want to bang that sea lioness

>>26614452
so why aren't machoke and machamp dark types?

>>26624654
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>>26624667
they are champs, they have a belt and all

>>26623980
The cancerous /vp/ fanbase seems to love humanlike pokemon

>>26623656
So we might have to wait four months? Damn.

>>26624684
yes but bara cat has a belt and can wrestle just like machoke and machamp

so that doesn't really answer my question

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>>26624089
WAIT.

Due to Littens lore of having oily fur and spitting flaming balls of oily hair, some thing that Litten's final evo will be Fire/poison.

Due to the typing leak, some people think that Rowlet's final evo will be Grass/ground.

This would put Rowlet's evo and Litten's evo at odds with each other, since Ground is super effective against Poison. Now, if we continue with this thread of the final evo's being equal to each other type-wise, then logically Popplio's final evo will gain a typing that is weak to poison and resistant to ground!

Something like...GRASS. POPPLIO'S FINAL EVO WILL BE WATER/GRASS. SCREENSHOT THIS POST FOR THE FUTURE!!!

>>26624804
but poison wasn't one of the leaked types

>>26614488
A dark type, and therefore a bad example.

>>26614407
I actually Fucking love the most recent leaks! The only thing that makes me think they are fake is how almost exclusively female the poplio evolution looks. But then again they did that with braixen/ delphox so really who knows

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>>26614407
I knew that seal mermaid thing look familiar for some reasons

>>26616094
>let's give the best starter a mane, no wait take it off in the final stage
>make the other 2 edgy
yeah so fake

>>26614407
These look like shit.

Anyone that says these are better than the previous leaks are just being contrarian.

If any of these are real the starters are insta-box in this generation.

>>26614407
impressively, these are even faker than the edgy ones.

GF needs to hire this dude, the wrestler tiger is pretty creative.

Friend does testing for Nintendo, can confirm it's all real.

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If there's one thing I know, is that this does have a quite japanese art style to it, but the designs themselves are actually quite convoluted and not really all that practical to make a 3D model of. Not to say they haven't done particularly overly designed designs in the past, but it all takes a part on HOW it would work in 3D.

I can easily picture Tigre there, but the owl's design is a bit iffy in that regard (it's mostly how the hood will work out in the end) as well as how busy the female sea lion design actually is to take into account every part of it.

Game Freak also does tend to make their monster designs smart and simple at the same time.

>>26632644
It's obviously fake. Silly Americans see katakana and they are quick to say "OMGzz that must mean it's legit!!" So the artist added them on purpose to make it seem authentic. Nintendo has been keeping SM info under tight wraps so far, I'm sure you've noticed by now. Something like this wouldn't leak so early. The trademark stuff doesn't count, the buffoons who Nintendo trusted uploaded them too soon, lol.

>>26614805
Hasn't he not had a job with Nintendo for years?