Fake or not, one thing's for sure, these evolutions were

>Rowlet3

You mean Robin Hoot?

lmao litten evolving into another fire/fighting? pls no. Not even as a fakemon.

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>>26612715

Still blown away at how good that Rowlet fake is. Real thing isn't going to be anywhere near as good. Gamefreak is getting powerfucked by the fan creations right now.

>>26612698
I keep thinking that the pearls holding popplio3's hair come off and glow and can be used for attacks just like how Popplio plays around with bubbles

In that pose you can see Popplio3 can split up its bubble braids and probably use it as an attack.

Sadly I think the thing that makes it kind of fake to me is that the usual Pokemon model sheets look a lot more rigid and don't fit in some kind of gag featuring Ash and friends.

>>26612715
just going off the owl3, tiger3, sea lion3 names they have on those but just putting the starter names on them.

I think the popplio evo is what makes the whole thing off to me, yes some previous starters were feminine but no way near this level or at least could be interpreted as male in some way, but this thing? idk

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>Litten evolves into a biped, probably fire/fighting too

>>26612760
samurott has a fucking mustache, starters are neutral

>>26612801
true, but the gender ratio matches with that, so not entirely neutral.

the real answer here would be something like sylveon though.

>>26612757
well they're using Litten3's flame belt to cook with

That's usually what happen to ugly people that are unaccepted in life. They turn gay or change genders to get some acceptance

>>26612827
which is a neat idea, but you don't see the official model sheets shoving ideas in like that. They like to keep drawings paced out from each other too. I hate giving this artist shit though, there's a lot of personality.

>>26612698
I'd say these look real if not for the pelvic thrusting Cheetahman.

>>26612888
regardless if you like them or not, point is that cheetahman has all the characteristics of litten

>>26612715
underrated post

When did these leak? Full images?
Also, safe to say if real then Rowlett is back on track for being the best. Litten was tied for a second there.

>>26612888
have you not seen the japanese Pokemon site's entire section about Machamp?

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>>26612908

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>>26612922

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>>26612929
There that's all of them.

The leak game is so good this year, I can only imagine the disappointment when the actual starters don't come close to any of these.

>>26612757
Regarding the Ash thing, that'd pretty much mean these would be concept art for the anime.

>>26612949
D-don't say that t-they can be as c-cool as this

:(

>>26612908
Here >>26606744
Nobody posted any further source.

these are the most believable fake starter evos so far

>>26612888
>Cheetahman.
Holy shit lol it really does it look like the buff one
Confimed shittest cheetah

Wrath litten having five fingers looks so damn wrong.

The one thing that i like about these pages is that it shows each evos exclusive move that they will get, owl3 gets feather bow, cat3 gets a fire wrestling throw or a fighting table smash attack and seal3 gets its pearl blast thing

>>26612954
My point has nothing to do with whether its an anime model sheet. I think that makes the most since actually, all the model sheets that have gotten out into the wild the past few years seem to be anime documents.

>>26612698
I know memers like shitting on the whole fire/fighting thing but holy shit, I'd love for this to be real.

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>>26612698
R3's feet can turn backward!

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>>26612946
WE ARE PRECURE NOW!

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>>26612922
>firepenis

>>26613011
>memers
There's a legitimate problem with GF's design process when more than 50% of the the fire starters share the same dual typing.

>In my opinion these designs do seem like they were drawn by Ohmura

man you guys gotta get better at noticing styles

They're not quite "cartoony" enough
Take the legs for example. In a huge amount of designs for anything bipedal, they're basic ovals for thighs, a short thin cylinder for a shin, if at all, sometimes it just goes straight to the feet with huge claws, or very tiny feet, or just stumps. Just about every pokemon has a fairly short, squat design. If it's a big pokemon, it just has a small head to show it's big.

The owl, the legs just aren't right, too tall and narrow with "reasonable" feet, and the design is clever but too subtle. I think the torso would also be too small, it's too human in proportion.

Wrestler cat is right out, it's pretty much a strongman comic figure

midriff seal is probably the least unlikely, only because florges is a thing. But the midriff, and the top garment, and the way too human-like head of hair are all pretty off design.

Not that none of this is possible, but believing this for being similar in style is just off.

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Plot twist: Both are real.

>>26613029
...then who's wolfrun?

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>>26612929
>armpit bowstring

and yet I don't care, this thing would be so fucking cool to have in the game. Would be my bro in a wingbeat.

Plus, god, the potential nicknames/English names.

>Robin Hoot (I love you, >>26612715)
>Cowl
>Arrowl
>Archair
>Notchowl
>Bubombard
>Albarrage
>Owlssassin
>Spectacowls
>StrixNStones
>Bowl

>>26612922
God damn motherfucking Fire-type furbait starters. However, I'll accept it if it's Fire/Poison.

I wonder if it burns when he pees.

>>26612946
Fucking fabulous. No complaints.

>>26613125
I would be okay with this.

>>26612729
>>26613011
>>26613053

It's not supposed to be fire/fighting, you fucking idiots. It's fire/dark. It's a heel* based on Tiger Mask.

*A heel is a wrestling term referring to a dirty, cheating fighter, who uses under-handed tactics to win fights, and is generally considered the antagonist to the honorable "face".

>>26613021
confirmed for not knowing anything about birds

>>26612946
Rather hope this isn't it since I want the clown motif to be stronger. Got enough prettymons out there.

>>26613060
What I meant by style had nothing to do with the designs, it was mostly in the lineart of how they were drawn and the color use. I did say "one could say otherwise" as there hasn't been any concept art seen that's done by him. (I only threw his name out due to that and the fact he drew the starters this time)

Could be someone trying to mimic the style in the Noivern image too. But yeah, had nothing to do with the designs.

Is fucking Popplio the everlasting dragqueen of Pokemon?

>>26613171
Or maybe he is just another fire/fighting Jobber :^)

>>26612922
are we just gonna ignore pikachu getting hit with a fucking announcer's table

>>26613214
>looks evil
>smashing what looks to be like a table on pikachu's head
>spits poison/fire
>literally based on tiger mask

He's fire/dark

>>26613171
>dirty fighter
>borderline pissing fire on his opponents

this guy has a pretty solid case, threadgoers

>>26613186
>birds
But it's an owl.

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>>26613125

>>26613226
>>26613171
I hope he has a signature move that's super effective against fighting types or some shit. The face shouldn't automatically win for being just fighting type.

>>26613258
Maybe he'll get a fire version of flying press?

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>>26613125
>Implying your pokemon has to be defined by two genders
Check you privilege desu senpai

I just came online, what the fuck is this shit? Where has it come from and why is everyone freaking out over it?

>>26613329
They just randomly appeared and people are so desperate to believe in any leak that isn't Ballio and Owltair that they latched onto these ones like me, I fucking love these guys

>>26613329
refer to >>26612962
Everyone's freaking out because whether this is Game Freak or not they went above and beyond the normal shaky cam pictures of one pose.

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>>26613187
>I actively like and want more fucking clowns in things

>>26612966
Yes but only because we've had uglier shit around for so long...

>>26612698
Poppolio better have a Gender dependent Evolution.

I ain't getting a faggot Water Dog.

>>26612698
Are there full independent images of these things?

>>26613385
Try just reading the thread for more than five seconds you fucking retard

>>26613329
To make it simple for you, these came outta nowhere today and were the most convincing "leaks" made to date. Detailed concept art with each detail about the pokemon with front and back poses plus functionality of their attacks.

Has anybody worked on trying to translate the notes at all?

Also they're believable because they fit with the aesthetics of the Gen5 and Gen6 starter final evos.

Where did these actually first originate from?

>>26613389
It also helps that they're not LOL SHAKEY CAM OFF SCREEN.

Something that most leakers don't realize makes them look fake as fuck

>>26613408
They aren't shaky, but they are of low quality. Making the actual notes very hard to decipher.

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>>26613427
Someone posted a slightly less blurry version if you wanted to try your hand

>>26612946
I might actually pick it if it ends up looking like this, though the owl is still the best.

Cat went to shit of course.

>>26612922
My problem with it is its over-sized hands and the fire-spitting crotch, they look silly.

So assuming these are real, what are y'all getting and was you mind changed?
I used to be smitten with litten, ready to see what the others had to offer, but now I'm good with the hood, go for the bow.
I like the other two, but they're still blown out the water according to my heart.

>>26613497
You just made me realize his arms are the barnacle things from XY

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>>26613497
>crotch

Uh, anon...

>>26613499
I was extremely disappointed by Owltair but Arrowl is fucking great. I do love Tiger Mask though.

Popplio's evolution completely redeems the line, but isn't something I'm interested in.

>>26612946
If this is real I will name my Popplio, Minami.

>>26613499
I only liked Rowlet before, love all three final forms. Still feeling Rowlet the most though.

Way too cluttered to be actual concept art. Looks instead like something made on Pixiv.

>>26613499
I took a chance on Popplio in the first place because I imagined it could turn into a pretty cute circus performer and not just a bozo the clown. I'm very okay with it.

>>26613526
checked pixiv under different tags, not there

>supposedly reference art
>no names, only labeled owl 3, tiger 3 and sea lion 3
The creator is obviously not good enough in Japanese to come up with actually decent puns, so he didn't even try

>>26613672
OR this was obviously art done BEFORE they even came up with names. A lot of concept art is usually drawn first before names are a thing because sometimes the names are changed.

I want these to be real so bad. And that means they won't. Because I can't have nice things.

>>26613672
>The creator is obviously not good enough in Japanese
>Handwritten Japanese all over the fucking place

It's concept art for a reason, they probably didn't have names yet.

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>>26613687
This is clearly supposed to look like reference art for the anime, not concept art for the games. The fact that Ash is even seen should tell you as much.
Look at previous reference art, they nearly always have the names, and never placeholder names like these.

I'm digging Sireine; I already liked Popplio but was deadset on getting Rowlet. If it turns out to be real, I'm starting with Popplio :3c

>>26613513
Owltair's better to me. Has a much cleaner cooler palette and has cooler shapes. I understand people just really love the whole bow wing arrow thing but we don't even know what Owltair can do.

>>26613672
brudda,

see
>>26613687
>>26613701

>>26613714
not all reference/concept art is the same though?
they're prone to change with each generation
Although the prvs art does have names, maybe you'd think that these might not have names because they were designed while the names were still under construction? You can only use "punny" names so many times before you gotta start being creative

>>26613714
This is the first gen where the pokemon are illustrated by Ohmura, he could be the one doing the model sheets this time. Like >>26613755 said shits also prone to change with each gen.

>>26613724
You don't make reference art for the anime before you have finished shit up for the games, that includes names.
The writing is just simple keywords that don't really need a great understanding of Japanese to write, and the pictures are too blurry to see if the strokes are natural.

>>26613755
But, but muh patterns!

>>26613773
Who said it was for the anime though?
I'm sure if you tied these back to the way things were designed out when Sun & Moon was first announced they'd be fairly similar??

I agree with
>>26613755
&
>>26613772

besides, do you have any "game" concepts that physically differ from the anime concepts?

>>26612698
>Litten's final evo is a tiger
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>26613779

>>26613755
You obviously have finished constructing the pokémon when you send them to the anime department.
There are also other bizarre things like the sketch of tiger 3 slamming the board into Pikachu, which is just flat out a horrible reference that helps nobody at all.

Does Joe say anything?

>>26613793
>Who said it was for the anime though?
You clearly see Ash standing next to tiger 3. It's not even a question.

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>>26613793
>Who said it was for the anime though?
Look at the Litten evolution picture, you'll see Ash and a female companion trainer.
>I'm sure if you tied these back to the way things were designed out when Sun & Moon was first announced they'd be fairly similar??
Are you talking about the concept art we saw in the first video? It's very stylized, and not at all like these evolutions.

>>26613805
He hasn't said anything, but his go to response is:
>If it's from 4chan then it's fake.

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>>26612929
>>26612946
I don't mind these designs at all. It's actually pretty good.

The way I see it going down is this.

-Yes, these are anime concepts, but they're most likely already "DONE" since they'll most likely be wrapping up XYZ soon and jumping right into the next series.
-Since animation takes time and it's pretty much the one of the busiest industries in Japan, they have to do concept art ahead of time, meaning that all of the important ones, i.e. starter pokemon, trainers, gym leaders, etc. are done way ahead of time.
-which leads to these leaks.

It's the year of Pokemon after all so don't expect gamefreak to hold back or even stop the 20 year anniversary hype train.

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>>26612698
>another "girl" furshit starter
>bipedal feral shit
>owl is pretty ok

THESE BETTER NOT BE REAL

>>26613805
Yes he did.
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/739346839808380928
Anyone that isn't a complete moron would come to the same conclusion though.

>>26613856
?

Of course the concept would already be done.

Do people think they wait till after the game announcements to start working on shit?

>>26613859
They're real

>>26613864
He himself is an idiot, though. So, his word is pretty irrelevant.

>>26613805
You fags need to stop worshiping this dude

>>26613773

Maybe they're trying to keep the names off of documents in case of leaks? Let's say these had the names and the same trademark shit that happened with the starters and legendaries happens again. They'd be confirmed. But without the names on there, people can say that anything that pops up that sounds similar to these concepts were made in response to it.

Of course you might be right as well. Just try to keep an open mind. We don't want another Wottergate, or GF will try even harder to stop leaks.

>>26613877
Pomf pls go

>>26613873
DELETE THIS

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here's my stance

>>26613226
You know who else looks evil? Luxray. You know who else isn't dark? Luxray.
You know who is obviously based on a wrestler, wears a belt and is super buff and is fighting? Machamp.

Look at those similarities.

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>>26613900

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>>26612698

>>26612946
this is very feminine and i would be highly surprised if it was accurate

not disappointed though

>>26613883

this is probably true.
If I were GF i'd be pretty fed up with content being leaked.
Can you imagine what it must've been like when people got XY early by accident and started leaking stuff? If anything, they're starting to up their game on preventing leaks.

hell, we didn't even know what Rowlet, Litten or Popplio were even gonna look like other than the japanese names that were found through trademarks. People just guessed what they were and happened to be almost right

>>26613365
Always enjoyed performance and music themed stuff and I find the circus aspect of entertainment lacking in IPs with themed content.

Just because your parents reacted negatively to clowns and passed that to you doesn't mean they're bad.

>>26613948
fuck you clown

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>>26612698

>>26613936
It makes sense I guess, most starters look male by default.

>>26613978
>most starters look male by default
name one

>>26613983
>who is charizard
>who is blastoise
>who is feraligatr
>who is typhlosion
>who is sceptile
>who is swampert
>who is empleon
>who is torterra
>who is infernape
>who is emboar
>who is samurott
>who is chesnaught
>who is greninja

>>26613983
Samurott

>>26612839
???

Becuase gay/trans people are so accepted?

>>26613997
>serious expression =/= male

>>26614002
this maybe because it has a mustache

>>26613983
blastoise is literally my dad

>>26613983
Blaziken is a rooster

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>>26613029
>implying that's a bad thing
GoPri was one of the best seasons

>>26613521
Very good taste. I liked all of them, but Minami was still my favorite. Definitely one of the best blue Cures imo.

>>26613138
You're talking about a Smile Villain, and this is Go! Princess. But Mighthyena'd good, as seen on a request that's on the Drawthread booru.

>>26612839
the only place being gay or trans makes you more accepted is in very specific online circles. outside of that you get killed or beaten or kicked out or have to deal with keklords like you,

>>26614020
Blaziken is one of the starters that is sexually dimorphic with females having smaller horns

next

>>26614034
it's still based on a rooster. Female Blazikens aren't fully sexually dimorphic.

>>26614028
>you get killed or beaten or kicked out
Where? Rural Alabama? top kek

>>26614042
There is no fully or not fully. The sexes have differences and are therefor sexually dimorphic. And there are female chickens of that breed, obviously.

>>26614034
>1'' longer hair makes something change from masculine to feminine
Both still look masculine for the most part.

>>26612946
This is a nice design that is my favorite out of the three but it still makes me wheep a little for murder clown that skipped leg day. That was my favorite.

>>26614028
Where? Fucking Uganda?
I live in the deep south and I've never seen any snowflake beaten up.

>>26614051
I fucked up that statement. Blaziken looks male because it's based on a male chicken. It doesn't matter that it's dimorphic, because the females are still based on a male chicken.

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>>26614024
I liked them all too but Haruka was my favorite. Still can't pass up naming it after Minami since it looks so similar. Got to agree with you on the best blue Cures thing though.

>>26614054
>>26614069
Nah. Regardless of what it's based on it's ambiguous as fuck.

Emboar and maybe Samurott are the only really male looking starters. Any others could easily be either sex.

Except Delphox which is obviously a girl.

>>26612698

They do have an official feel to them, but it's hard to tell for sure. I'm leaning towards fake, personally, but if they were real, that'd be cool.

>>26612922
>>26612929
>>26612946

These are quite cool but I think we can definitely say they're fake, especially with the Litten image.

>>26614079
Empoleon is dressed like a man.
Feraligatr, Chesnaught and Greninja also clearly have humanoid male chests.

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just for reference, this was noiverns confidential sheet

>>26614095
Feraligatr and Greninja are also not mammals, though

>>26614104
No, they are Pokemon, they hatch from eggs. What's your point? We're talking about human reading here, not whatever animals consider male or female.

>>26614104
Greninja is anthropomorphic as fuck. Look at its chest, that is what a man's chest look like. No frog has chests like that.

>>26613451
>Tiger 3
>Seal 3
>Owl 3

surely they'd use the actual names if this were official?

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>>26614095
>clearly have humanoid male chests
Except they're not humans.

Also, is this a male or female animal? GTFO

>>26612749
Its pretty awful to be honest.

>>26614131
See >>26614120

>>26614133

forgot to mention it could be real because how awful it is.

>>26614131
not him but that's probably a female

male cats tend to have huge ass fuck jowls

>>26613365
This.

>>26613948
No, you're clearly the odd one out. No one likes clowns except you, you fucking clown.

>>26613956
Confirmed undercover clown.

ballio>this furbait seal

>>26614150
leave

>>26614150
Literal shit>ballio=this furbait seal

>>26613125

Having Gen VII's gimmick be split gen evolutions for all the starters would be pretty fucking crazy.

>>26613983

Empoleon.

>>26613125
>based Robinhoot is more common
I'm ok with this

>>26614182
>the starters get different evos depending on which version you buy

>>26612698
>>26612946
Seal3 is beautiful, much better than meme clown. I hope this is real.

>>26614194
>no whiskers, despite it being a sea lion
I hope it's fake desu

>>26614194
kill yourself

I actually like popplio's evo in this. Manatees, seals, and sea lions are sometimes considered the mermaids of the sea so having the final evo be very mermaid like is rlly cool and clever. Also imagining mermaid like Pokemon in poke-hawaii is really cool too

I'm so goddamn sick of bipedal fire finals, so goddamn sick.

>>26614190
>sun gets these leaks
>moon gets the old leaks

>the split evos are explained because exposure to sun/moon energy changes how they evolve

it would be fucking insane

>>26614220
And by insane I mean retarded

>>26612922
>boiling kettle on his belt
cute!

the linework is solid. Way more solid than any other 'leaked' starters

has anyone found inconsistencies in them yet? On the actual designs, not the layout of the page

>>26612929
Jesus this design is perfect. I've never wanted so much for a fakemon to be real. I suppose it's not completely out of the question yet, but I doubt Gamefreak would actually come up with something this cool.

>>26614230

>not fire whip dick

>>26614235

I'm not familiar enough with Ohmura's work to really look in great detail, but having the anime characters present and Pikachu getting destroyed by a table on the "Tiger 3" page probably makes it an easy fake.

I want to fuck the cute cat wrestler!

>>26614235
Honestly, this looks more Sugi than Ohmura

>>26614249
>On the actual designs, not the layout of the page

if the only thing 'inconsistent' is background fluff then i'm inclined to believe that these are real

>>26614249
well it could be that theyre the anime reference sheets
theyre usually made after designs are finalized so animators can get a feel for how the pokemon looks/moves and acts
its how wottergate happened, someone leaked the art for anime references

remember that greninja got in smash after sakurai saw the reference sheets and said "i want him in smash" so its possible that these could be real

I hope this is fake just because of the Popplio evo. I don't mind a feminine looking starter, but only if it started out looking feminine, which Popplio didn't.
I want Ballio dammit

>>26613230
Please don't stop this meme.

>>26614249
>having the anime characters present and Pikachu getting destroyed by a table on the "Tiger 3" page probably makes it an easy fake.
What made you come to this conclusion? Are companies forbidden from using established characters in concept art?

>>26614267
can you elaborate? Is it because the lines are rougher?

All I'm getting from this thread is that too many people don't know the difference between concept art and reference art.

>>26614279
The anime reference sheets for Pokemon are usually much more bland than this. These look more like someone trying to mimic the game concept art we got from Gen 6. But then they decided to make it have aspects of an anime model sheet for some reason (namely Ash and Pikachu). They didn't want their fake to look too good? Who knows.

>>26614301
The actual sketch with Pikachu getting destroyed by a table is completely useless and won't help the people that art like this is intended for.

>>26614309
I'm a bit too drunk to do a big write up, but it just comes from dealing with 20+ decades of sugi's work.
Even then, these are definitely fake. We've seen this artist before. He/she have gotten better, but he had this same exact style for the starter fakes he did last gen. He's improved a lot though

>>26613886
Or this one.

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>>26614324
>They didn't want their fake to look too good? Who knows.
You could probably explain it like this

>it doesn't match previous reference/design sheets
>no faker who wanted to maximize their realness would ever add them
>since there's no reason for it to be on the sheet, it's actually probably more real because the actual designs are under no strict rules as to what doodles will be on them

It's a classic reverse psychology thing. No one would possibly fake that sort of thing, so it must be real. Which makes it another thing a faker might add.

>>26614330
We've seen things like that in other concept art/reference sheets. It has to do with helping to visually show the character of the design, not just how it looks. Is there any particular reason for Sycamore to be crashing into the trash cans? Does it help with the reference at that size? No, but it's there as a bit of quick characterization.

>>26612698
...I'm seeing Litten3 being used as furry\bara bait...

>>26614324
>Copy 6th gen concept art style
>Does their research on Wottergate and realizes anime model sheets are way more likely to leak than legit concept art
>Throws in Ash and a girl who could pass as his companion to turn their fake game concept art into something from the anime
The perfect crime.

>>26614301
It's just against all odds and is more of a doodle than a pro showcase.
Wth would it be attacking a bloke with a table, I get the wrestler motif already but they forced it with that.

Does owl use its own feathers to shoot? Must be very painful way of getting the ammunition

>>26614390
Maybe it only shoots molted feathers

>>26614344
I think the biggest damning bit of evidence is that these sheets just have too much. The similar sheets we've seen from Gen VI are much more spaced out with only a few images on them. These are too cluttered.

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>>26612922
Is he doing the giant swing at the bottom right?

>>26614387
How is it against all odds? Why does Sycamore's sheet show him crashing into trash cans on roller skates and have Tierno getting horned up over a Rolex?

>>26614395
Also, the "confidential" stamp has different sizes, particularly in owl3.

>>26614269

I know what you were saying but my point is that the fluff in the background being inconsistent is a red flag.

>>26614279

It's possible but I doubt it. These do seem more like references sheets for games, with a random anime reference thrown in. That's fishy to me.

>>26614301
see >>26614387

I don't see it being real BUT it's possible. >>26614366 makes a good point, though I still doubt these are real.

>>26614395

Yeah, there is a LOT of stuff on those sheets. They definitely feel too cluttered.

>>26614403
appears so

>>26614406>>26614395

like they have some set in stone standart for that, that can never change in 2 years. Like someone would look at the size at the number of details and the size of the "confidential" stamp and be like THIS IS NOT UP TO OUR STANDARTS THAT WE USED 2 YEARS AGO! REMADE IT FROM SCRATCH!

>>26612698
They look like Digimon.

>>26614425
>like they have some set in stone standart for that, that can never change in 2 years. Like someone would look at the size at the number of details and the size of the "confidential" stamp and be like THIS IS NOT UP TO OUR STANDARTS THAT WE USED 2 YEARS AGO! REMADE IT FROM SCRATCH!

What I meant is that the size looks different from the other two sheets. Meaning either the sheets have different sizes or the stamps are.
Might be an optical illusion though.

>>26614372
>Throws in Ash and a girl who could pass as his companion to turn their fake game concept art into something from the anime
That what make me think they are fake,Lillie get revealed and coincidentally concept art with her are leaked some day after. I want Robin Hoot to be real, but it's a bit too much of a coincidence.

>>26614425
No, the size between the stamp is of different size between the three here, which would logically have been made at around the same time.
The stamps being of different size makes no sense either if they are digital or physical stamps.

Real or not i feel the current 3D models of the games would make the owl look like shit

>>26614425

>standarts
>not standards

>>26614459
Whoever leaked it could have just trimmed away the whitespace.

>>26612929
How do its bow strings even work? They are part of its hoodie and can be pulled to close the hoodie as seen in the middle but bottom left it just pulls one really long, therefor closing the hoodie, and holds it in one wing to make a string?

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>>26614468
>Luchatigre
>in a static pose worse than Delphox

fuck, why'd you have to make me think about it?

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>>26614486
>>26614459
>>26614443
>>26614425

I resized the images to make the stamps match.

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>>26612698
>adding human hair to pokemons

>>26614521
where do you live that humans have hair like that?

>>26612698
>>26612922
>>26612929
>>26612946
Does anyone know exactly what type of color swatches the color numbers refer to? Tried searching for a few minutes to see if I could find anything that checks out but got nothing of use.

>>26614562

Assuming they're legitimate leaks, the numbers could refer to internal colour swatches that GameFreak uses.

That's IF they're legit, which they likely aren't. Though not being able to find a match for the numbers would help strengthen their legitimacy, I'd say.

>>26614366
underrated post.

>>26614607
Underrated post.

>>26614611
thanks.

Weren't BW or X/Y final evos leaked and people were sure they were fake but it turned out they weren't?

>>26612698
There's so much attention to detail with these and their concepts are so well thought out that I think that GameFreak would never be able to come up with this themselves

>>26614618
Yeah stuff happens every year. The most hilarious ones were the Unova starters and Hawlucha, people were absolutely reaching

>>26614618
>bringing up wottergate as a defense
every fucking time

>>26612946
Would make eggs with. Nonstop. Regardless of gender.

>>26614639
>bringing up wottergate as a defense as a defense
every fucking time

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>>26614618
Greninja was leaked about a month before XY, because someone got their hands on the game before the official release.

All the Gen V starters got leaked through images made for the Anime style, which has its slight tweaks, being posted online. I don't have the amusing thread for that one on me, though.

>>26614656
The thing is that Melkor and Serebii both backed it up.
Most other rumors they just ignore or actually dismiss. Serebii dismissed this one on Twitter for example.

>>26614659
>Greninja was leaked about a month before XY
Try two weeks

>>26614659
The Hawlucha one argument was pretty sound. We didn't know that we were going to get 3 different pokedex categories.

>>26614680
My mistake. I checked the OP date in that image and thought it said 19, not 29.

>>26614659
Amazing.

Where is that one of the Unova starters being compared to other Pokemon? That one was great too.

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>>26614618
>>26614659
And here's Wottergate.

>>26612698
I love them all so they're 100% fake :(

>>26614701
Gets me everytime. Hilarious.

Such ridiculous logic

"Those things were real so this must be real"

>>26614701
that thread and others that followed were fucking hilarious, the shitstorm even made Joe and Archaic post on /VP/

>>26614719
No one is saying that. We're just reminiscing

>>26614701
>nearly 6 years ago

fucking hell where does the time go?

>>26614717
Considering both Wottergate and Greninja had people who pretended to have made them up, I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen that yet.

Probably has to do with the kinds of leaks. Obviously, these and the others are fake. It's not even so much about quality as, oh what, we just happen to get "leaks" of the starter evolution after we've already seen the starters themselves? And no quality "leaks" of any of the other Pokemon? Just artwork too? Please. No real point to it with these. Better wait until juicier stuff pops up.

No one has staked their reputation on this either. Serebii got behind the Gen V starter evos early on. I avoided /vp/ and news for Gen VI, but from the Greninja image, it seems Pokebeach also got behind Greninja and Hawlucha. There's no real point to pretending to have made the leaks up to make sites look bad and if there's no one actually trying to get behind them.

As we get closer to November, more "leaks" will pop up and maybe even a real one. I'll probably have checked out again, but I do look forward to coming back to see what insanity I missed.

>>26614719
"Those things were real so this time they must be fake"

Both are dumb arguments. You should look at these leaks in isolation.

The popplio evo is obviously supposed to be a selkie (scottish seal mermaids) hence the fairy typing.

>>26614747
>No one has staked their reputation on this either.
Quite the opposite this time:
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/739346839808380928

>>26614747
Gen V starters leaked less than a month before release (Sep 1 leak vs Sep 18 release), as did Greninja and Hawlucha. If people like Joe and whoelse were in the knows it's likely because it was very close to release and they have some special relationship with GF that usually lets they in on some details close to release.

Pokemon S&M is almost half a year away, and it's very unlikely that anyone except people with direct relations with people working on the games and promotional stuff have any idea what is going on. Joe rejecting it as fake doesn't mean anything because he's just as clueless as anyone.

>>26612698
Looks nice.

/r/ing those B/W and X/Y leak timeline infographics.

>>26614125
There are just placeholder names.

>>26613586
He was giving an example.

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>>26612922
>>26612929
>>26612946

Call me a fool, but these look legit to me. And I hope they are real since they all look great.

>>26614802
you fool

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>>26613125

>>26612698
Looks VERY detailes. I highly doubt that this is fake.

I just want to know, does anyone know if the Japanese there is clear?

>>26614802
You're a fool, I bet you like that you little slut.

>>26612698

the other 2 are actually good but I seriously hope Litten does not end up humanoid like that

>>26614825
The Japanese that is large enough not be legible at this shitty resolution isn't butchered and mostly label details like "fire belt"

>>26614825
The people that have translated parts of it seems to find it ok. Although most of it is just one or two words and not full sentences, and a lot of it is too blurry.

>>26614792
but if it is confidential anyway, why code them? It makes no sense. The person doing the sketches would know their names and wouldnt try to mask them unless they KNEW the specific images would be leaked

>>26612922
Has anybody named this Luchapaw yet?
Side note this is the only one I want to be real.

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>>26614812
>>26614827

>>26614849
We call him Tiger 3.

>>26614840
Or the person was just lazy and instead of writing their full name he just wrote Cat 3 Owl 3 etc.

>>26614849
>Lucha

no you fool
it's clearly a sentai villain

>>26614863
>Or the person was just lazy

the names are in katakana; writing to-ra-3 is MAYBE saving them one symbol. That's like saying the person was too lazy to write out Cat because 3 letters is too long for a word

>>26614872
It's quite clearly a pro wrestler. Japan has a lively scene, and it's even more batshit insane than American Wrestling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW9ARaNRilo

>>26614840
names are still undecidss at this stage but they still need anime production to get started?

>>26612922
>Hawlucha vs Pawlucha

>>26612929
This is seriously a great design. Holy fuck, congratulations to whoever pulled this off

>>26613365
>I actually want more furryshit in things

>>26612908

They didn't "leak" from anywhere; they're fakes posted directly on /vp/ by the artist or artist's accomplice.

>>26614932
>Not Tigreble

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>>26613365

Asides from Mr. Mime and Mime Jr. who are both pretty much considered based on mimes, which pokemon are actually based on clowns?

>inb4 Conkeldurr

Nigga, that one's based on construction workers. At best, a muscleman carnie, you fucking nig nog.

>People getting honestly creeped out by best sea lion clown when we already had pretty questionable pokemon designs in the part

>>26614645
>eggs

wat

>>26612698
they are all disgusting trash. lmao

Only thing bothering me is the tigers stupid gigantic cartoon hands. Other than that, these starters are fucking rad, but I'm still hoping they're fake because I didn't want to know the evolutions before playing the game.

>>26612922
>ash and Pikachu
so is this a character sheet for the anime or does this make it fake

>>26612698

The only thing that bothers me is that popplio's stage 3 doesn't use it's clearly states description of being an acrobat

While Robin Hoot and Tiger mask keep theirs aka feather attacks and flame skin

You could argue the bubbles, but being a necklace makes it even worse, maybe if it bounced around with them

>>26613125
That would be a cool concept.

>>26614984

>mimes = clowns

uw0tm8

>>26615016

>lmao

Confirmed for shit opinion

>>26615014

He's a retard who thinks seals lay eggs.

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>>26612946
pls be real

All three are great, but the "confidential" font is off

I am screencapping all of these threads, can't wait for them to be confirmed so I can make a btfo collage.

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>>26615097

So what you're saying is that you're screencapping EVERYTHING in case one of these "leaks" is real, just so you can rub it in people's faces, even though you don't know if any of them are actually real or not and would not decide either way, hence why you're screencapping everything: to cover your bases and be an asshat at the same time.

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>Rowlett3: Robin Hood: robbing from the rich and giving to the poor
>Litten3: Tiger Mask: Tiger Mask was once a member of Tiger's Cave under the name "Yellow Devil", but no longer wanted anything to do with them, instead donating his money to the orphanage.

Finding a theme here

>>26615067

Believe it or not, there are people who legitimately think of Mr. Mime and Mime Jr. as clowns, despite their names.

I can understand people seeing Mime Jr. as a little clown from appearance alone, but fucking still.

>>26614454
...That's not Lillie.

>>26615016
My opinion.

>>26612929
This is so fucking amazing.

But it bothers me that the arrows are just normal feathers and not the same leaf feathers in Rowlett's wings.

>>26613125
shitlord dont misgender my pokemyns with your binary bullshit. Your triggering my bi-polar otsd-psd-depression with your misogynistic views

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>>26612922
That looks like a fighting type...

>>26612698
>Rowlet becomes cancerous pokemon with human weapon attached to it
>Cat becomes cancerous bipedal firefighting digimon

I seriously hope they're fake pham, I dont want to be forced to chose Pooplio and to have to reset it until female to match its extremely feminine evolution (fuck traps)

>>26613125
Please be real.

>>26613258
If it's real, is fire/dark and its signature move isn't a dark-type spit in the face that's SE against fighting types, I will be disappointed.

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>>26612929
a sherwood forest, archer, marksman pokemon. Holy...fucking shit...If that dumb lil shit owlet evolvees into this... I'll take back everything I ever said about it, and bow down to my grass overlord.

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>>26612929

>>26612698
So what names do we have?
Robin Hoot for sure, what about the tiger and seal?

>>26615227
when i read posts like this, i imagine a nervous redditor on their 4th day of making the switch between boards. shaking slightly, they take an extra few minutes to make revisions on their posts so they can slip in effectively and read up on chan lingo using an outdated encyclopedia dramatic page from 2006. haha i sure hope my popplio is female because traps are cancer amirite? this pokemon are the cancer that is killing /b/ i mean /vp/. all your base are belong to us faggot.

>>26615315
Kill yourself, piece of shit
When I read posts likee those of the faggots in love with these godawful digomonish fakemon, I understand why the franchise is getting worse and worse

>>26615164

I believe it but it's still stupid.

>>26615331
Way to prove his point.

>>26615227
You are retarded.

>>26615315
You are also retarded.

>>26615331
And you are the most retarded.

>>26615346
Retard

>People actually believe these are real

Even ballio is more believe than this shitty waifu bait holy fuck.

>>26615346
Agreed.

>>26615331
sounding like sammyclassicsonicfan up in this bitch, buddo.

>>26613451
>blurry

It's called noise.

>>26615331
Honestly mate ballio and co. (excepting my mum's panther) are more like digimon than these

>>26612698
I swear to God if my boy Popplio evolves into that piece of shit.... The other two look great, aside from Litten most likely being a fire/ fighting.

>>26612922
>bara strongman tiger

When I said I wanted this... I meant it. It makes me chuckle.

>>26612929
Maybe too complicated? I like it, but I think the face and hood could have been executed better.

>>26612946
It's, uh... Well, that's a thing.

>>26615164
Mimes are a kind of clown.

>>26612698
Awful, all of them
It wouldnt be hard to make good evos actually, just focus on the animal aspect unlike all the fake evos artists who all wanted humanlike stuff (muh assassin's creed, muh robin hood, muh evil clown, muh hulk cat...)

>>26615269
I've been calling Litten's Nacho Tigre.

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>>26613187
>actually wanting any more clowns

Mr Mime is enough, anon.

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Ok lets judge these, shall we

>>26612922
>It becomes tiger like
Believable
>Random gag drawing with ash
Doesn't seem like something they would do for the game designes
>It becomes Fire/Fighting
sadly enough

>>26612929
>Archery design
Believable, Rowlet had a little bit of a Athenian vibe.

>Head
That looks more like a hawk than a owl

>>26612946
This one just has that special blend of looking like something that Gamefreak would do but also like something extremely fake.

>>26615435
>actually want a pokemon waifu
You autism is showing

>>26615435

We have a lot of mermaid pokemons too

>>26615399

A kind of a different clown, but theoretically, not actual clowns (the ones people are more familiarized with). So, in that sense, Mr. Mime is a different kind of a clown, just not a actual clown, the ones most are familiarized with.

>>26615450
Mermaid Pooplio is shit, but it's better than a clown.

Clowns should never be used for the design of anything except for the design of evil creatures that are meant to be hated and eventually killed. For example, Pennywise is an acceptable clown because he's evil and hateable.

>>26613714
Maybe it's reference material for a trailer like they did with BW2?

>>26612929
Robin Hoot is best pokemon, fake or not.

>>26612715
>>26613144

Green Sparrow

>>26615364
See you as a part of a "it's fake collage".
Can't wait until november for you to get btfo

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>>26615443
>That looks more like a hawk than a owl
Could be they are going for the prehistoric theme as usual.

>>26615466
>Clowns should never be used for the design of anything except for the design of evil creatures that are meant to be hated and eventually killed

You must be great to have around children birthday parties with clowns as a host.

>>26612946
>>26612929
>>26612922
There is way too much thought put into these designs to be real.

>>26612946
>this is also the male design
>choice for black protagonist
game freak confirmed as SJW gook

>>26615559
Do people even rent clowns any longer? They did studies which confirmed that kids are inherently scared of them even from a very young age.

I don't think they'd intentionally make a clown Pokemon when it's well-known people don't like clowns.

>>26615563
That's concept art for ya buddy. If these are real it's just a fraction of all the concept art they've made.

>>26615559
Stage Magicians are objectively superior to shitty clowns for birthday parties anyway.

>>26615443
>it becomes fire/fighting
People are too quick to think this, it may very well be fire/dark *if* it's real

>>26615404
Yeah, why do they need to do actually interesting monster designs anyway? I just want memorable final evolutions like bigger house cat, or slightly oversized owl, and who can forget fat sea lion!?¡¿
kill yourself.

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>>26615688

Because god forbid of people wanting monsters/animals instead of human like creatures or at the very least, human like creatures who still have their animalistic features and traits and not just outright change into a human like creature with an appearance alluding that it's only wearing such.

Truly, these people are the worst kind of people.

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>>26613714

>This is clearly supposed to look like reference art for the anime, not concept art for the games.

then whoever made this doesn't know that colors are not referenced like that in official
settei

also. why no names? the settei that the anime uses come from the official model sheets that GF provides. why would GF give them preproduction/incomplete stuff?

>>26615782
>muh furshit
Do you actually think the artists keep these stuff in mind, if it panders to certain people or not? Cleverness is priority, I can't imagine their faces when they pulled the designs off.

>owl uses its hoodie string as part of its wing bow
>tiger wrestler has its fire belt used to heat up a kettle.

Not much going on with popplios final evo but it looks gorgeous. You should do your art research to truly appreciate stuff like this. That's enough 4chan for you today.

>>26613772

he did them in previous gens. If you pay eattention to the offcial concept art from the books you can tell that they are not done by the same person, they differ in style.

also, there was this interview to ohmura where settei for primal groudon/kyogre was posted under his work

>>26615588

This article seems to know about its stuff more in-depth.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/the-history-and-psychology-of-clowns-being-scary-20394516/?no-ist

Honestly, part of the reason why are afraid of them is because it's been "ingrained" in people to dislike them since the very beginning due to all the negative imagery we've had, which is far more than the positive one.

Even if someone, say, wanted to become a clown merely to entertain children and bring them joy, while not all of the people, most just assume it's mostly taking away all of its dignity in order to do so. In the end, you could be a clown, but as you assume that role, you also bring the infamous clown toll onto your back even though you really don't want to and just want to entertain kids, even if just for a while.

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>>26614125
>>26614125
>>26613451
>>26614792
>>26614840
>>26614863
>>26614888

Because it's not like the concept would precede the name.

Nope. Never. People always come up with names before they conceptualize an idea. Doing anything the other way around would just be inefficient!

[/sarcasm]

>>26612946
This is the one that makes me think these are fake, I don't see them making the final evo jump so far from the clown theme. Also the lack of snot bubbles tip me off, they made a point to have that as a theme.

I want to have sexual intercourse with Popplio3!!!

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>>26616566
>I don't see them making the final evo jump so far from the bubble theme. The lack of scarf bubbles tips me off, they made a point to have that as a theme.

Look, these aren't real, but people are just being silly if they think "such and such obvious theme would never be discarded or Pokemon would never look like that" when time and time again GameFreak has shown a casual willingness to do the very things people say they have never done.

>>26614781
>special relationship
>just some autist with a pokemon site
>not jew owned IGN, NUTAKU, GAMESPOT

>>26616661
>serebii accidentally reveals Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion's names before literally anyone else in the fandom knew that they existed
>just some autsit with a Pokemon site
Guy's got some sort of line to Pokemon, we know that for sure. Still an autist with a Pokemon site, but not just an autist with a Pokemon site.

>>26616676

that's why he theorized about a z game like the rest of us prior to the SM direct

I'm sick of people sucking his tiny british cock.Sure he has a great site and he might have known something in the past but clearly now he has as much clue an anybody on this board

>>26612946
This thing is so majestic I love it,

>>26616566
Bubbles are still there - its using it in "water hair"