>Knockoff does typeless damage
>U-Turn's base power is lowered
>Ghost and Fairy don't resist Bug
>Rock resists itself
>Ice resists Water, Flying, and Dragon
>Water is weak to Poison
>Psychic resists Fairy
>Bug and Grass resist Ghost and Dark (plants and bugs are too simple/mindless to understand abstract fears)
>Fairy is weak to Psychic and Dark
>Dragon is weak to Normal
>sound-based Normal moves can hit Ghosts
r8/h8/db8
Git gud, learn 2 counter, quit bitching.
Ur a faget.
>>26603546
omg rekt lel xd
>>26603613
I kno rite?
Top kek
OP BTFO
>knockoff does typeless damage
Good, now any Psychics or Ghosts won't get slaughtered
>U-Turns BP is lowered
Good
>Ghost and Fairy don't resist bug
Good, but Fairy needs to be weak to Bug
>Rock resists itself
Good
>Ice Resists water, flying, and dragon
Good
>Water is weak to Poison
Excellent
>Psychic resists Fairy
Eh
>Bug and Grass resist Ghost and Dark
Nah
>Fairy is weak to Psychic and Dark
No. Even coming from a Dragonfag, this is nerfing Fairy too hard
>Dragon is weak to Normal
No. Normal is a neutral type, and really only has that fighting weakness to keep it from being too good
>Sound-Based Normal Moves can hit Ghosts
Noivern, Swellow and Exploud Boomburst spam when?
5/10 overall.
>>26603531
>Knockoff does typeless damage
That's fucking stupid, just make it normal
>U-turns base power is lowered
Fuck that shit, I ain't buffing your hoopa-u
>Ghost and fairy don't resist bug
I'd be okay with this
>Rock resists itself
Doesn't work logically. Have you thrown a rock at another rock? Throw hard enough and one of them will break.
>Ice resists water, flying and dragon
Fine by me fampai
>Water is weak to poison
For what purpose? Poisoned water is still water, it's not harming the water itself, just things that drink it.
>Psychic resists/is super effective against fairy
I'd be okay with this to nerf fairies a little and make psychic relevant again
>Bug and grass resist ghost and dark
No. Fuck you.
>Fairy is weak to dark
But that's fucking stupid, you edgelord
>Dragon is weak to normal
This is just autism at this point
>Sound based normal moves can hit ghosts
Makes a little sense, but then scrappy exploits loses its niche
My conclusion: you're 82% retarded
>>26603531
>U-Turn's base power is lowered
Scizor would like this.
Scizor is overrated though so who cares.
>>26603531
Knock off should be dark because it's in line with the dirty fighting tactics of dark type moves.
I'd lower the damage boost a bit. As someone who regularly uses the move on a Weavile I admit it's that boost in damage that is OP not the type or base power.
>Fairy doesn't resist Bug
>Fairy resisted by Psychic
>Fairy weak to Psychic and Dark
You're one of those fags that thinks Fairy is broken, aren't you?
>>26603714
Its not overpowered, but it is broken.
>>26603531
>Knockoff does typeless damage
No. Leave it Dark-type, make it ignore weakness and resistance.
>U-Turn's base power is lowered
And all other moves that do the same.
>Ghost and Fairy don't resist Bug
Sure, that'd work.
>Rock resists itself
Yeah. The argument above about one breaking against the other doesn't matter unless you're talking about immunities.
>Ice resists Water, Flying, and Dragon
Yes, yes, and no.
>Water is weak to Poison
Yep. Again, argument above about water not actually being hurt by the poison forgets to take into consideration that water-types aren't literally made of water, they're aligned to it and would be affected by its quality.
>Psychic resists Fairy
Sure.
>Bug and Grass resist Ghost and Dark (plants and bugs are too simple/mindless to understand abstract fears)
Sure.
>Fairy is weak to Psychic and Dark
No and no.
>Dragon is weak to Normal
Nah.
>sound-based Normal moves can hit Ghosts
Nah.
>>26603531
Why is dragon type weak to steel? Like a sword that slays the dragon.
>>26605008
Sorry I meant isn't*
>>26603982
>Its not overpowered, but it is broken.
This is why I can't take """""competitive""""" players seriously. You lot like to spout words like overpowered and broken, yet have no idea what they mean.
>>26603531
>Psychic resists Fairy
It should be Ice, it doesn't make any sense that it doesn't especially when Fire resists Fairy
>>26603531
fairy is now complete shit
and bug and ice are now OP as fuck
congratulations, retard
>>26604456
>buffing knockoff more
Stop
Typeless is a perfect balance
>>26603635
>says good to 6 of 10 things
>5/10
???
>>26605211
Broken =/= overpowered. Something can be terrible and still be broken. Broken just implies there's something wrong with it.
>>26603982
What
Being broken is the extreme pf being overpowered
>>26603531
none of those are true
nice try, OP
The only thing that needs to happen is Bug should super effective Fairy. Fairy is prim and girly and Bugs are the epitome of striking fear into that
>>26603635
>Normal is neutral
>Resisted by 2 types
>SE against nothing
>Resists nothing
Its not equal/balanced at all
>>26603982
holy shit
/vp/ as just been fantastic today