PTCG/O General: SM Wrecked the Catalog Edition

My top 3 favs are emloleon luxray and arcanine.
Empoleon and luxray have aome cool breaks but neither are very good. Arcanine has had nothing cool in years.

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Got lucky with my fave.
GORGEOUS.

>>26574684
WHO WANTS TO BUY MY FIRST EDITION CLASSIC CHARIZARD CARD??

>>26574996
Ive got 3 now anon but still havent got a vaporeon or jolteon yet. Did get both umbreons and the regular glaceon ex from fates collide. Still missimg that full art one =/

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Any suggestions?
The idea behind this deck is that PokePowers are different from Abilities and can't be shut down.

>>26575045
is it shadowless?

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>>26575124
I hate this art so much. It's just wrong somehow but I can't quite put my finger on why

I have 2 of the full art because I hate the half art so much

>>26575276
to be honest, most "regular" ex could be a TON better if they just got rid of their fuckin 3d models

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Since Jirachi is fucking impossible to get online, should I run something else in it's place? Right now I'm just using two extra trainers.

I know there's other shit wrong with my current setup, just don't have any packs atm.

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>>26575325
yeah, there's nobody in this thread who will disagree with you there

Anyone here really looking forward to Volcanion-EX?
Ability: Steam Up
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may discard 1 Fire Energy card from your hand. If you do, during this turn, the attacks of your Basic Fire Pokemon do 30 more damage to your opponent’s Active Pokemon.

Besides the obvious Torchic abuse, what other basic fire pokemon could make use of this amazing ability?

I was asleep about an hour before the reveals, so I don't know if anyone answered me.

Do the EX cards on the versus reward ladders become usable? I have the Darkrai and Kyurem EX, but when I try to make a deck with them, they won't appear when I try to add them. Is this a bug?

>>26575447
Charizard ex possibly to boost it to 60. Then you grab a discarded energy so it ramps itself, seems cute.

I will never win a legacy tournament.

>>26574684
Maractus unsurprisingly has no good cards. Gardevoir has some pretty cool ones though including the only real heavy hitter in the fairy type.

>>26575447
We talked a shitload about this back when it was revealed, check the archives.

tl;dr it's an extremely good card that's probably going to be tiered, either on its own, alongside the fire-type Yveltal+1, or at the very least teched into Entei/Charizard or Flareon.

But it really depends on what this rotation is going to be.

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My pulls from a blastoise box, how'd I do? Is it normal to get 2 EX from a single pack? I've been collecting since 2007 and never had something like that happen.

>>26578075
the packs in those boxes have a much higher chance of getting good pulls.

>>26578102
>good pulls
You mean EX pulls

>>26574684
God, this box is beautiful.

>>26577713
Maractus is a cutie. Too bad the only way pokemons like Maractus will be good is if they print a Night March Maractus, or they make a new move that works like Night March.

Quick question, played back in 2000, when did they finally stop using the "flip a coin, if tails, this attack does nothing mechanic"?

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>>26578356
This card was printed last month.

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>>26578477
>Hello Darkness my old friend

>>26578587
Why does that matter?

>>26575276

What's wrong is they've completely fucked the proportions, giving it either a gigantic head or incredibly tiny paws.

They did the same thing with Generations Dedenne.

>>26578356
They didn't

>>26578251
Maractus EX would be pretty dank. I don't even care if it would be just a meme I'd try to build a deck around it.

Every game I don't suffer from horrible clumping I win handily. Maybe it's a balancing feature.

>>26578356
No, but they don't put it on attacks that do more than 50 damage.

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>>26579302
Also a month old.

>>26579051
If it was a meme it would still be cool, the problem is if it was completely outclassed by nonEX pokemon and even worse, made by 5ban.

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>>26579370
Anon, pls, let the other anon die in peace.

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>>26579684
I was hoping he'd say
>But they don't put it on attacks more than 60

>fairy damage challenge
>literally just done with a spree of turbo gardevoir

well timed ptcgo

>>26580045
Fairly new to the game what is a fairly cheap and decent deck to get this done?

>>26580135
There are no good Fairy decks, so all of them are cheap.

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Hey guys i just got into the tcg about the time the charizard generations box came out and now im getting in to playing a little more seriously. Moved from casual decks with 25 pokemon to decent decks.

So I've made this deck because i really like sylveon and wanted to make a deck featuring her, and I'd like your guys feedback on it.

I know im missing vs seekers and should prolly cut the 2 bands for 2 more belts. And shaymins ofc...
But lemme know

>>26580311
I'm a bit out of the loop with the tcg, but isn't it lacking the Sycamores? Also, last time I checked, 4 Xerneas wasn't enough for 2 Brigettes.

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>>26580311
Messy. Your Pokemon lineup isn't focused enough; you should either actually focus on Sylveon EX by maxing it out, or gear it to be more of a Gardevoir deck. Your trainer lineup is weird, too. Brigette doesn't make sense here, Max Potion isn't a good card without Aromatisse, Skyla isn't picking up anything in particular, Teammates is out of place in a primarily-EX deck, you only have one Spirit Link, and there's not a Sycamore or VS Seeker in sight. You also have way, way too many energies.

Pic related is a Sylveon deck that won States, and this was before FC so no Fairy Drop. I've played this deck extensively online and it's really solid. Notice the trainers and the more streamlined Pokemon lineup.

>>26575276
This isn't news or some mind-opening discovery. 99% of the time, FAs are better.

>>26578075
>Is it normal to get 2 EX from a single pack?

It was is Legendary Treasures. I can't accurately say if it is for Generations since TPCI sucks little jap penis and didn't release Generations booster boxes.

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Recomendations?
Want to build a speed deck that can take on basic mons before they reach break status (scizor line)
If facing EX, sabotage them and/or wreck them with Zoroark.
I am trading for a full art Scizor and Mega this weekend, and Zoroark Break.
I am too lazy to break my currenr deck right now, but this is my planned list:

Scizor Ex 3 or 4
M Scizor 2
Zoroak Break 3-2-2
Jirachi Doom Desire 1

Steel energy 5
Shield Energy 3
Dark Energy 2
Special Dark Energy 1

Reverse Valley- 2

Pokemon Center Lady- 1
Sycamore- 4
Lysandre- 2
Hex Maniac- 1
Ultra Ball- 3
Teammates- 1
FloatStone- 2
Townmap- 1
Vs Seeker- 4
Head Ringer- 1
Target whistle- 1
Revive-1
Acro Bike- 3

>>26580311
This is awful. But that's not unusual since you're new.

First, that's WAY too many energy. This isn't like Magic where 1/3 of your deck is lands. The most energy I've ever seen in a successful competitive deck is 14. How many energy you run depends on the deck. I'd say most decks run between 4 and 10. Fairies w/ Geomancy Xerneas usually runs 10-12, all basic.

Sylveon is a one-of at best. You need a 3-3 line of Gardevoir, plus 3 spirit links.

Teammates is a good card, but not for this deck. You have too many EXes to be running Teammates. That's really only for Night March and Vespiquen decks.

As you said, you need Seekers and Shaymin. In the meantime, a Hoopa is a decent replacement for Shaymin.

You need 4 Ultra Balls, 4 Trainer's Mail, 2-3 Sycamores, and another Fairy Garden. You also need a 2 (or 3)-2 Aromatisse line.

You don't need Diancie, Fairy Drop, and Brigette at all. You only need 1 Skyla.

>>26581020
>Recomendations?

Don't play Scizor.

>>26581100
>Don't play Scizor
Nah, he is one of my favourite and I play for fun with my friends.
I am not autsie enough to spend so much cash on Shaymins and try to go to worlds
Also, me and my friends have a house rule where we cant copy/ressemble the strongest decks. You have to make your own basis

>>26580582
>3 Birch

This deck is shit.

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>>26579728
Why stop at 70. Here's whole 200 damage riding on a coin flip.

>>26581173
Well, the deck literally won on a States level, which is way more than you can say for whatever pre-FC Fairy build you can post.

And Birch wasn't bad, it's just currently outclassed by N. The fact that a majority of States decks ran 1-3 of it, including some Night March builds, is proof of this.

>>26581143
>I am not autsie enough to spend so much cash on Shaymins and try to go to worlds

Not everyone spent $60 on Shaymin. Back when Roaring Skies first dropped, it was $25-30 for a FA.

Also, you don't have to want to go to Worlds to play competitively. I work 12a-9a and 12a-8a Sat/Sun, but I still go to League and play in League Challanges, Cities, and occasionally States and Regionals when I can.

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>>26581182
I was saving that for the
>But they don't put it on attacks more than 90
After I posted this and Aggron.

>>26581248
>Well, the deck literally won on a States level, which is way more than you can say for whatever pre-FC Fairy build you can post.

A guy topped (or maybe won, I can't remember) FL Regionals with a Fairy build.

>>26580532
>>26580582
>>26581088
OK thanks a lot guys!
Sycamore and Trainer's mail slipped right by me and after playing with this deck a bit, Bridgette is pretty awful and I'll take youre recommendation of teammates being bad as well.
The max potions and diancies are filler until i get vs seekers and shaymins so kinda stuck there atm. Also out of gardevoirs too.
For now would taking out diancie for say maybe lugia or mew work?
And i have 2 more belts...i think...should i swap them for the bands?

>>26581261
>it was $25-30 for a FA.
The reason why i play tcg is becasue i have crazy luck on pulls. I got a Maxie full art and a Primal groudon on a blister pack, 2 full arts, kyogre ex and a secret rate on a trainer box. Those scizors i pulled in 2 blister packs and 2 singles.
I feel like its too much to spend over 10 in a card

My league is in my college, so all my friends play. The adjecent league is around 45 minutes away, and its mostly kids with theme decks.

>>26581248
not that anon but I might point out it won a states *Juniors* division. I've payed it a bit online too, it's not bad at all. If you get set up right you just keep healing and wheeling and there is not much anyone can do to stop you.

>>26581355
No Mew. It doesn't serve a purpose in this deck since you don't play D Valley.

Lugia EX would be okay. Deep Hurricane = gucci.

If you want, you could switch to a toolbox version of Fairies (one Pokemon of every important type to ensure you hit for weakness). One Yveltal, one Toad, one Manectric, one Psychic something (I'd go for Gengar), one Trevenant, and one Charizard will deal with almost every deck. Just switch to 8 Fairy and 4 Rainbow.

>>26581522
I don't have a lot of cards anon ,_,
Traded like half my binder for the stuff i needed and had to buy the rest. And i meant the fates collide lugia that does extra damage to EX pokemon.

what's the strongest fairy Theme deck for the challenge?

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i collected the cards when i was younger but never really played the game. few years after i gave them all away i started to regret it so i opened a few more packs recently

i do good?

>>26581757
How do you define "good"

Those cards are worthless and competitively trash.

>>26581836
but they look pretty

>>26581757
>>26581844
If you wanna play for fun, they are okay. Can make a deck with Lugia, since Kyurem is too energy heavy. Couple it with winona, the fug, or anything from roaring skies.

You can also sell/trade them.
Dont need to play a meta deck to have fun! (>ω^)

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you nigs ever shoplifted pokemon cards/booster packs/boxes before?

and this makes up for my $4 down the drain since the real pulls were meh..

>>26574684
I really want to buy that Generations box when it comes out, but I'm in Canada. What's the best way for me to buy it? Do people on ebay ask for way more than the retail price?

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>>26582021
>be me, get an ex/full art every 3 or packs.
>friends call me anon magic hands
>decide to finally play the tcgo
>put all my codes, starting from Plasma Freeze/Blast
>around 120 codes
>only get 10 ex/full art/secret rares
Never gonna play that shit anymore

and no, i started playing the game mid way through college, I believe in Noble Victories. I havenr reached that low yet

>>26582094
Nah, most times its arounf 5 USD higher, if any.
If you buy it right away you can save up to 10 USD. If you try to get an old box, they go up in price because of rarity

>>26582142
Alright, that's pretty good to know. Thanks dude.

I really fucking love having all copies of a card prized every game.

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I don't understand this card.
Is it like a AZ, with out losing anything but throwing back in your deck?

Can you pick any pokemon?

>>26574684
Is this even worth getting?

It's not even the Shaymin-EX we wanted. So what gives?

>>26582173
No problem.
I usually just buy them off ebay or Amazom, desu

>>26582277
>Is it like a AZ, with out losing anything but throwing back in your deck?
Yup. One of my favourite when you run it on fast decks, use it with great ball and proffesors energy, and you are ready to go
Also, came before AZ

>>26582301
Depends, im going to get it for the physical stuff: box, sleeves, dice. 10 generations boosters is pretty nice too.

>>26581752
good god don't do this challenge in theme. 4000 damage will take forever. Just get a few shitty fairy EX (they are less than a pack each) and get going in standard already.

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Oy vey.

>>26582277
great in lockdown/bulky decks like tinatoad. Just as they have finally chipped away enough damage .. out comes Cassius and they don't get prizes.

Fuck buying anything but singles. Spent $75 dollars in the last 3 days on packs because "Opening them yourself is more fun" and got literally 0 holos or ultra rares. Fuck that shit. It's not fun. It's a waste of money and a disappointment.

/blogpost

>>26582416
I only started playing a few days ago so I basically have nothing

>>26582277
I have to try this card, sounds really interesting

>>26582427
>88 generations

teach me your ways senpai

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>>26582427
Are we posting these now?
You should dump those Gen packs before Jolteon's price gets too low

>>26582494
>Spent $75 dollars in the last 3 days on pack
>be me, in 3 days buy 5 packs
>get full art and regular ex for my deck, and alakazam EX.
>Other packs had special energy and one trash
I guess we average out?

>>26582558
get two copies of the fairy deck with the aromatisse & xerneas in (resilient life). Lose (or win) three tournaments for tradable things. Trade for three Fates Collide Diancie-Ex (its cheap af and not terrible when used with hard charm).

congrats, you can win standard tournaments now, and finish this challenge in about six good wins.

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Anyone notice that the recent Generations regular holos have the full card holographic treatment like Fates Collide?
It's the closest thing we have to differentiating between "1st" edition nowadays. Kinda interesting.

TotT: My favorite Pokemon is actually Lampent since BW. I was so excited when it became the only useable member of the family.

>>26583296
Yes. TPCi is going extremely cheap on holo effects. I'm trying to get reverse holos that don't have full holo effects and faded art.

>>26574684
Are any of these trainer boxes worth picking up?

ToTT: Snorlax, my all time favorite, has had a few decent cards over the years. If we talk current meta, I'm a fan of the Greninja line.

My favorite Pokemon, Mew, didn't start out great but ended up being some of the best cards in the game; Mew Prime, Mew EX and now Mew from Fates Collide.

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Have a code.
please post pulls, if you could.

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>>26584261
considered trading it for something, but i wanted to honor your wishes.

I haven't played in like 7 years, is Luxchomp still good or anything?

>>26584433

It's been rotated out, hoss.

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>>26584322
Ah, good man, thanks

>>26584433
I haven't played in like sixteen years. Is Haymaker still good or anything?

>>26584496
Lol, of course not. After 16 years that thing is obsolete.

>>26584433
Are you me? Because I said basically the same thing a week ago.

Maybe in legacy/unlimited. Night March is probably the easiest to build. I threw it together in a couple days of playing PTCGO.

>>26584561

Legacy is HGSS-LTR only, so LuxChomp's banned in that format as well.

Just got my first tradeable packs.

Which does the game prioritize opening if I have both a trade-locked and a tradeable version of the same pack? If the latter, is there any way to get around it?

Are there any other worthwhile theme decks besides Dark Hammer and Night Striker?

>>26584885
you always open locked packs first

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>the joy of playing whales and friends.dec
>the rage of night marchers and other meme decks unable to one hit the whale

>>26574684

So this elite trainer box will only be available online?

>>26586308
The wording in the website implies that it will only be available from pokemoncenter until the end of July, and after that you should be able to find it in retail stores.

>>26583296
>>26583317
What do you mean? Can you show some examples?

>>26583296
"usable", well, but I know what you mean, I always liked Joltik, but thought that Galvantula looked ugly.

>>26582494
>>26582494

are you buying single packs or boxes/tins?

>>26582494
If you buy singles, chances are that you bought the leftovers from weighed packs.

>>26587068
Anon that's not what singles mean. Singles mean buying just the cards from a third party. No boosters or tins or whatever, just buying the shit you need.

>>26587177
Sorry, I completely messed up the wording. I meant to say single packs.

Because I usually buy triple packs, because I Iike thrill of opening boosters. And I am more of a collector than player.

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Ninja Boy – Trainer
Supporter
Search your deck for a Basic Pokemon and switch it with 1 of your Basic Pokemon in play. (Any cards attached to that Pokemon, damage counters, Special Conditions, and effects on it are now on the new Pokemon.) Shuffle the first Basic Pokemon into your deck.
You may play only 1 Supporter card per turn (before your attack).

A neat way to get rid of shaymin starts or transfer a set up pokemon's energy if it survives.

How's that HGSS bundle?

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>>26587001
Here's an example from my own cards. The Golem on the right was pulled in a Celebi box. The Golem on the left was pulled in a Manaphy box.

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And in case anyone missed Yveltal BREAK

>[D][D][D] Night of Disaster: 120 damage. This attack does 30 damage to each of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon that already has damage counters on it.

Not sure if it's worth running. -20 HP compared to FFB, and only 20 more damage than Darkness Blade.

>>26587374
As a collector, should I buy booster boxes? I heard those save you a lot of money.

>>26588076
Not worth running over FFB

>>26588113

fuck no, you get 1-3 Full Arts and 5-6 useless EXs

>>26588113
>save money
>booster box
kek

>>26588076
It's still an hp boost for muscle banded xy yveltal or fright night yveltal which is all it needed. A DDD attack is hard to set up in a deck that generally has DCC attacks.

>>26588163
>muscle band
>steam siege

I try to avoid playing expanded.

>>26586923
Oh thanks god. I was worried I'd have to import one to the border, since the Center doesn't ship outside of the US.

Do we know if it comes with energies? I thought I read it lacked them, because of the special print and to offset the two extra boosters.

>>26583518
Depends on your needs.

If you're new to the game, an ETB is great for bulking up your collection and giving you some rudimentary supplies.

If you'd already planned to grab a half dozen boosters, it might also been worth it to drop an extra 20 to get the fancy box, which last for years and look nice on a shelf.

If you just need a few cards though, probably not the best bet. Roaring Skies and Generations would probably be your best bets, given they each have a good number of useful cards that are sure to last through the next rotation.


>>26584496
Top fucking kek.

>>26584516
I think you missed the joke, m9.

>>26588163
It's not that different from XY Yveltal's DDC

>>26588189
The OP image indicates it will come with Generations energy.

>>26588113
You save money by buying singles.

>>26588147
This.

The only reason to ever buy a booster box is if you find one for a discounted price, or if you find a long out of print set.

The best bet for buying boosters is always to weigh them.

>>26588201
I see that, just wasn't sure if it had been confirmed in print or not. Guess I'd heard and bought into a good ol' Pokemon playground rumour.

>>26588113
Opening boosters is the only reason someone would buy a booster box.

Singles are always better no matter if you are a player or collector.

>>26587374
"Singles" has never referred to packs. You didn't mess up the wording, you just plain don't know what the wording means.

>>26588076
>3 Dark Energy
>Only 120 Damage

Hell no it's not worth running.

>>26588810
>Only 120 Damage
You mean "only" 380 damage

>>26588824
Don't you mean 300?

>>26588076
Might be ok against that deck where snorlax sits in active and the opponent just throws shurikens at you with greninjas.

>>26588788
I messed up the wording as in I mistyped that word. It is because he said about buying singles that I had it in my mind when I was typing, but I did mean to type single packs.

Dude, I play mtg since 2001, I know what singles means.

>>26588824
You're really reaching there. That would have to include a full Sky Field bench AND all of them would have to already have damage counters on them. How exactly do you plan on doing that? Swoop Across? And even then, Dusknoir is rotated, so you've basically got 40 damage on 8 benched Pokemon and no real way to move it to get KOs, unless you plan on running 4 Absol and 4 Super Scoop Ups.

You're idea is shit. Kys.

>>26588880
>he's allowed to understate its damage
>I'm not allowed to exaggerate its damage
Why the double standard?

Fuck what's a good fairy deck to get this fucking challenge done?

So for Dark deck:
4 Yveltal (1 BKT, 3 XY)
3-3-1 Zoroark line
2 Shaymin-EX
2 Yveltal-EX

Is this fine?

>>26589109
Yveltal EX isn't good or necessary any more.
Instead, fit in Gallade + Maxie's, Stardust Jirachi, or a generic DCE tech like Toad or Druddigon

>>26589147
I mean, the whole reason I wanted to play the deck in the first place was because FA Yveltal looked cool so I'm still playing one. But I'll fit in Toad and Jirachi.

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>>26589105
The rainbow force deck from washington regionals is pretty fun.

>tfw like Noivern
>It's mediocre ingame and mediocre in TCGO

>>26589475
It's one of the best meme cards. I've yet to find another deck that generates so much rage.

>>26589502
I fougth a Blastoise-EX (Generations) deck with Slowkings and full energy drop cards, that guy stall the match until timeout

>>26589189
FA Yveltal EX is one of the first FA's in the game, the shiny tin promo is arguably the best looking art, followed by the original, followed by the regular tin promo.

And one Yveltal EX is fine, I couldn't make room for it between Gallade, Jirachi and Druddigon myself.

>>26589688
>first
Sorry, meant worst.

>>26589255
Does volcanion counts as 2 types for Xerneas?

>>26589849
Yes it would.

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4000 fairy damage to get this challenge.

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>>26589872

great timing to have fallen in love with playing turbo gardevoir

>>26589872
Oh the packs are random I am getting basic XY.

>>26590008
It's the same for everyone.
Part 1 (Fairy Go Round): 4000 fairy damage for XY1
Part 2 (Fairy Dragon): 40 ko with fairy for XY2
Part 3 (???): 40 ko with dragon for ??? (probably furious fists)

>>26590056
ah i see

>>26589702
shit taste detected

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Are there any obvious problems with this list?

>>26590509
Head Ringer's not that good at all this format, you might have too many energies, D Valley might be a better Stadium if you're running 3x Wobb even with M Mane accel, and Hoopa might not really be necessary.
Since you're investing so much in Wobb and since you're running 4-3 Mane, you might even consider some Muscle Bands or FFBs in there.

>>26590452
The signature "gold" outline that started out as a minimalistic and subtle way to show contrast in the distinct features of a Pokemon (like Darkai or Landorus) unfortunately does not complement Yveltal that well since they decided to outline every single "line" on its body in near-uniform thickness.

If they had scaled back some of this gold outline and limited it to parts of Yveltal's body that actually needed contrast (the black parts of its body overlapping other black parts) or even just lowered the thickness to something more akin to the original Darkrai EX full art, it would be fine.

>>26590587
I agree with you on everything but i wanted to know what your reasoning for head ringer being weaker. Just the lack of ex decks? That was my reasoning as well, i've been considering cutting them for more tools or items that can be useful. The energy count i've found is just perfect as well, the only change to make is maybe dropping a psychic for another lightning but it's running smoothly as is for the most part.

>>26590706
The only EX-based decks in the entire format are Toad and M-Manectric. Sure you could slap it on a Shaymin EX, but you already hit it for weakness.

>>26590706
>I agree with you on everything but i wanted to know what your reasoning for head ringer being weaker. Just the lack of ex decks?
Yes. The best decks of the format consist of NM, Yveltal (which has cut out Yveltal EX), Greninja, Trevenant, and Vespiquen/Vileplume. In terms of EX decks, you only have to worry about Toad, other Mane decks, and M Fug. You literally can't play it on Toad and M Fug is too fast for Head Ringer to matter unless you decide to run Megaphone or Xerosic.

I mean, ymmv since PTCGO's meta is pulled out of someone's ass, so you shouldn't absolutely drop it. At the very least, you can justify it by saying you need it for Mane's damage.

>>26590732
>>26590769
Alright, thanks for the help guys.

>>26590509
Why do all the full art EXes look so bad

>>26574996
Holy shit this is beautiful. I've been out of the loop since around Phantom Forces and haven't bought many cards since. Just checked this generations expansion, how do you actually get these "radiant" packs? The full arts look so sweet. What else have I missed?

>>26591540
The radiant cards are in the Generation boosters.

>>26591540
Generations is a lot like Legendary Treasures. It's an amalgamation of reprints, new energy design, handful of new EX's and Trainers and Radiant Collection 2. Unfortunately the only way to get Generations packs legitimately is from sealed product. So far the best bang for your buck is the Generations ETB posted in the OP ($50 for ten packs) but it isn't out yet.

Pull rates are extremely generous, meaning the individual cards from Generations that are "valuable" hover around $5, with the exceptions of the Mega Kanto Starters and Charizard EX because of nostalgia and Jolteon EX because of playability.

>>26591612
I just got casual back into it (since being a kiddo with D&P) with Base XY so I don't know about anything B&W.

Yeah that ETB looks pretty swell I have Yveltal and Lucario ones, will pick it up for sure. When is it out? Which other sealed products are worth it?

>>26591721
It comes out July 1st, available online at first and I think after that it will be available at retail stores.

So far the only sealed products are Mythical Collection boxes ($13 for two packs, $6.50 a pack) and the Red and Blue Collection boxes ($25 for four packs, $6.25 a pack). Personally I believe the Red and Blue Collection boxes are more worth their price because at least the promo full art EX you get is worth around $5.

>>26591781
I'm in the UK so prices are a bit different. Why the fuck is the Mew collection double the price of all the others?!

>>26591853
It was the first and had the shortest run (instead of promoting Mew at the beginning of February, it was promoted in the middle of the month, so it only had 2 weeks in the spotlight before Celebi). That would be my guess. And more genwunner nostalgia for Mew.

>>26591882
Damn there is a massive price variance between them. Seems the cute mascot are going for much more, namely Mew, Manaphy, and Jirachi.

Are any of the cards in the Pikachu and Hoopa boxes worth it? They're not generations it seems, is it just breakthrough?

>>26591935
The Legendary Collection boxes only have Primal Clash, Roaring Skies, Ancient Origins and BREAKthrough packs in them, in addition to the promos.

>>26591853
I don't know about the UK, but there was a serious distribution problem in the US with the Mew box. You literally could not find it anywhere. Stores were getting 3-4 boxes TOTAL for the month, so obviously a single person could easily clear a store. Because of this, most hobby stores and online sellers were pricing it at $24-$30 per Mew Box despite the MSRP sitting at $12.

>>26591999
nice trips.

Again I think this had a lot to do with the fact that Mew's spotlight only last 2 weeks instead of an entire month. I had to hunt down a GameStop selling the Mew plush and Great Ball figure because I was worried they weren't going to restock before Celebi stuff started coming in.

>>26588014
This card is ridiculously good. Not only does it let you reuse a Shaymin/Hoopa if it gets started or Lysandred out, it also can let you switch between attacks in decks that run multiple basics. You could Oblivion Wing on one turn and Ninja Boy out to Yveltal EX, Fright Night Yveltal, Darkrai or Toad the next. You could swap Jolteons, Glaceons and Regice without benching another. You could start Wobbuffet, then ninja boy to Phantump and Ascension, or vice versa if you're facing something like Greninja.

This is going to see a lot of play in basic decks.

>ToTT
Relicanth and poliwrath will never be good anywhere

>>26591999
Maybe if you live in bumfuck nowhere.
Herr in South Florida those boxes are easy as shiy to find.

>>26593163
I'm ironically in Ft Lauderdale.
But I don't play physical.

where can I get product for a decent price in Canada?

>>26593154
If Shaymin gets lysandred out it's because it'll be knocked out in one hit. Unless their main attacker is so patently pathetic that it can't hit for 110.

Hard stone Diancie ex is pretty funny.

>>26593435
>Trev
>Shaymin
>Toad
>Giratina without tool
>Yveltal

I just Farewell Lettered for an Unown and FL'd that Unown for another Unown after topdecking the first Unown. I had the fourth in my starting hand. Fuck this game's clumping.

>>26574684
ToTT: luckily garbodor and shaymin are quite good

>>26593519
>Night Meme
>Poor Mans Night Meme AKA: Vespiqueen

i wanna try out the rainbow force deck but acquiring 3 ho-oh-ex is like impossible

How hard is it to become a Pokemon Professor Judge?

>>26594477
?
Both of them easily one shots Shaymin.

>>26594477
Oh no, two hyper offense decks. That totally invalidates the merit in other matchups. It doesn't really matter anyway since all but Greninja and Yveltal will be rotated or made useless come rotation.

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got these in blisters at Target. which one has the biggest potential for epic win?

>>26594778
FA Shaymin
FA Skyla/Keldeo/Computer Search
Surfing Pikachu

>>26594778
>Rising Rivals

Nigga what the fuck are you doing?

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>>26594778

>no full arts
>again

fuck these stupid shitty blisters

>>26594965
>got a VS Seeker from one pack plus a Crobat

I'd call that good enough.

>>26591999
my Target had a cart full of them on Pokemon Day and I still find them whenever I go anywhere that sells the cards even now

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Anyone have a good legacy ray-eels deck?

>>26595699

You could always run FluffyChomp, that's a good Dragon deck.

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No more monkeys when? Fucking some of the worst Pokemon yet they are shoved into fucking everything

>>26595699
Aww it switches to a dragon challenge?

I have been enjoying my Diancie ex deck.

How is the meta nowadays? I quit back in 2013 after winning some events with Hydreigon, thought the game was getting worse.

I consider Platinum and Rising Rivals the best format and peak of the game, how is it now?

>>26595866
The strongest attacker in the game at the moment is a 30 HP Joltik.

>>26595866
If nothing else, the game's gotten less basic-heavy than it used to be. Nowadays, the go to-strategy is to stop your opponent from setting up by blasting them with 200 damage on turn 1 with Joltik.

>>26595894
>>26595924
Just read Joltik, Night March sounds hilarious and RNG based

I bet tourneys are packed full of it, too. I'll pass, just like before we had Machamp counters and everyone ran it

>>26595964

Not RNG based at all. It's one of the most consistent decks in the history of the TCG.

But yea, compared to Gen 3/4 the game has lost a whole lot of complexity. It's gotten better since you've quit, but it'll never truly recover from the disaster that HGSS was.

>>26594965
>full arts
>in Rising Rivals

Rotom is your secret rare. better than a full art senpai

>>26595989
Is attendance up or down from Gen 3 / Gen 4? If the game is less popular that might be attractive just because my scene (SoCal) was a flood and you would get 80 person Battle Roads

>>26596044

I couldn't tell you personally, nobody plays in my area anymore though.

>>26596044
It's way more popular than it's ever been before in terms of turnout at competitive events.

>>26596195
They also just implemented actual cash prizes for tournaments, which is going to be a huge boost.

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>tfw you wanted to be a steel trainer, but fate is making you be a water trainer with Gyarados Ex, Manaphy ex and other water pulls

>>26596379
This is one of the more autistic posts.

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>>26596379
>Expecting to pull anything metal from breakpoint

>>26595866
Item lock and night meme. It's awful. I never thought I'd miss the days of hypnotoxic laser.

>>26596692
Ha. Go to Legacy where if you don't play VirGen whole games can be decided by a heads on laser. Nothing is worse than laser.

>>26596737
Ofcourse hypnotoxic laser is one of the most cancerous cards of all time. And also there was pre-errata catcher. It was pretty bad but I still think that what we have right now is worse.

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What the fuck is the point of this card in Yveltal/Zoro decks? Also, is it really a good idea to have Gallades in this deck?

I saw the game in the android app store and decided to jump in. I had actually already played the game back in 2011 when it was in Beta, I still have a "Pax 2011" shirt.

I have tons of old ass codes from emails and old TCG sets, can I still scan and use those in the game for fun? I was even able to open a "digital" pack of HGSS today that i had from back in the day.

I kinda just want to play for fun and don't care for rotation so if I can get tons of "old" cards to play and have awesome decks with I'll gladly trade any of the current rotation sets.

>>26596857
I've never seen lists that run Unown.

Gallade isn't necessary but can be added.

>>26596857

>Play down Unown
>Uses Gallade's Premonition to arrange your deck's top 5 cards (especially useful if there is something you need this turn)
>Uses Farewell Letter to draw said card

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Just made a simple deck, any idea if this should be ok?

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>>26595699
>legacy
Sorry, but here's the one I use in expanded.

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help?

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If you haven't started the challenge yet, don't bother with it at all. 4000 damage and 80 kos for 6 of the most worthless packs.

>>26598594
I'm not giving up easy and F R E E packs bro

>>26598469
Take out mega diancie. Without a spirit link you would waste a turn whenever you evolve diancie. Maybe substitute for mega gardevoir if you still want to run a mega fairy.

add aromatisse + max potion and max elixir instead of the fairy drops, mega diancie and mega turbos. With the Aromatisse + max potion combo you can move around your energy and fully heal your pokemon without any drawbacks.

>>26598841
Oh yea, also check out the FAQ image.

http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg

Also seen in op

>>26598841
I see your point. The only reason I use mega diancie is because I know that there are a ton of fairy decks right now and they all need EX pokemon to attack. Also, it helps that late night games tend to be much easier.

>>26598861
>FAQ image.
It's starting to get out of date and needs an update.
Sure it's still usable, but it is better to keep it as up to date as possible.

>>26598909
FAQ creator here. What would you suggest? I can update it whenever.

>>26599213
It's only missing the newest pack.
That's it.
I just like saying that to people who say FAQ image by default.

Are bootleg cards even a problem anymore? Haven't bought pokemon cards in ages and I really want to get the full art archie one off of amazon. Is it safe?

>>26578075
It is in Generations because those Flareons are part of the Radiant Collection. Each Generations pack has one RC card which could be an EX.

>cute girl shows me her cherished childhood cards
>they're fakes

>>26588877
>Dude
>I know what singles means
You clearly don't.

>>26595989
Why was HGSS so bad?

>>26581261
Settle that autism down sally, no one gives a shit about your ass job

When I hover my cursor over my deck, it doesn't show how many cards there are left. How do I fix this?

>Just found out aromatisse will be rotated out.

RIP fairy decks you weren't really viable and now you will be worse.

>>26600594

http://sixprizes.com/2014/10/10/6-and-up-the-overt-simplification-of-the-pokemon-tcg/

>>26600171
I know this feeling. I couldn't bring myself to tell the truth, all I said was "Ah, cool".

>>26601756
Not him and I read this article when it was first posted, but shit like this and the absurd amount of reprinting and rehashing we've gotten in the past few months have made me want to make a custom format.

Too bad I'd only get a handful of players to participate.

>>26601756
Oh man can't believe I haven't properly noticed. Some of the last packs I bought (before picking back up with base XY) were Mysterious Treasures, loved my Lucario Lv x and was really confused at first with the way EX's worked now because they were startlingly more simple.

I've got to say though I can see where they were coming from, considering how the game is mostly marketed towards children, so dumbing it down so they can learn to play might make sense, but honestly the game was pretty basic back with the Original series though when I was 10 I had little interest in actually playing, just wanted Dragonite and shit. They've really isolated the core fans who grew up collecting and are still collecting huh?

>>26602083
>the game was pretty basic back with the Original series
Almost every TCG nostalgia thread has dozens of people saying
>Oh, I never knew how to play, we just made up our own rules

ok just saw that generations box set and it looks pretty slick. how much do those usually go for?

>>26602146
One billion sheckles.

>>26602151
oy vey i dont know if i can spend that much

>>26602108
That was mainly because kids are fucking stupid and other kids don't want to play by the rules.

Some of the ways some of the people I knew interpreted pretty simple rules was amazing they couldn't get their heads around colourless energy meaning any energy so apparently they thought decks were sold without the energy required to play them.

IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY RIGHT HERE YOU FUCKER THAT YOU CAN USE ANY ENERGY TO FILL A COLOURLESS ENERGY SLOT IT'S NOT FUCKING HARD.

>tfw Archeops-EX never
>tfw Talonflame-EX never
>tfw Ambipom-EX never
>tfw Pidgeot-EX and M Pidgeot-EX never
>tfw Breloom-EX never

>>26602322
>Talonflame-EX
>AMBIPOM-EX

gtfo

first time in a few months the ladder is worth climbing. This fucking fairy challenge making it slower than ever.

>>26602108
I can't say I didn't do that, but come on, wizards knows that kids can't play mtg for shit without someone teaching them.

>>26602454
Wizards hasn't been a part of PTCG in over a decade.

>>26602467
I said mtg. And even if it was ptcg, the game was under wizards when people here were kids.

>>26602108
Haha I can imagine, but it is true. I knew how to play though, had the TCG GBC game, beated it comfortably several times, just didn't really bother IRL because nobody I knew wanted to

Am I correct to believe that all of my WotC cards are now useless in the current competitive scene?
Are they even worth collecting?

How is the card quality now?
What's the best way to start now?
How old are most people in the competitive scene?

I know singles are the cheapest way to go, but if I wanted to open boosters, which should I go with? Generations? Breakpoint? Roaring Skies?

Looking to beef up my Trainers, primarily.

>>26603702
Phantom Forces for trainers. Be warned it's likely to rotate out or be reprinted.

>>26603761
Yeah, I've largely avoided PF for that reason. And pic related.

Is it certain they'll be rotated though? Heard some musings about the Kalos Starter set bumping PF out of the first rotation.

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>>26603800
And of course, there was no pic related.

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I JUST NEED A SINGLE SHAYMIN BUT ITS 50 PACKS IN ORDER TO GET ON AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

YOU CANT WIN PACKS BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WHO ALREADY HAS SHAYMIN BEATS YOU FUCK THIS GAME

>lol anon, just grind Basic Blue forever until you get le shaymin XDDDD

FUCK YOU TOO BUDDY

>>26603822
Just buy 50 packs lol

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>>26603616
Pokemon uses a rotation system, like many other card games including Magic. It's been like this since halfway through Gen I.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Standard_format_%28TCG%29
There are different formats other than Standard with different card pools, but a majority of them are by no means supported. If you'd want to use your old cards, you'd have to find someone hosting an Unlimited Format tournament, which literally no one does.

So yes, almost all pre-BW cards are illegal to use for the most part. A few cards got reprinted, like pic related, but that's it.

>How is the card quality now?
I'm guessing you mean in terms of competitive viability. The current meta is fairly diverse and the balance isn't bad at all compared to older formats. There's a fairly diverse amount of mechanics in the meta, including discard manipulation, item lock, spread damage and sniping, OHKO turbo, and so on.

If you haven't played since Base Set, the bigger numbers might be scary, but things have just been expanded upon to increase precision. Trainers have actually regressed in power severely since Gen I.

>What's the best way to start now?
Download the client. PTCGO is very consumer-friendly and you can get rolling in no time. If you do end up spending money, $20 should get you a Tier 1 deck and more.

>How old are most people in the competitive scene?
18-24, like most TCGs. A handful are older.

>>26603616
WoTC cards are largely collection fodder.

There's talks of the online "Legacy" format being expanded to physical play, but that only stretches from the HGSS expansion till the end of BW.

>How old are most people in the competitive scene?

Depends on where you go. Some locations have a lot of tots who always want to trade and are a nuisance.

>What's the best way to start now?

If you're not adverse to boosters, grab some Generations packs, they're almost all reprints. They also include fancy Energy cards. Literally designed to get folks back into the TCG.

>>26603822
Play a top-tier Shayminless deck like Greninja or Garchomp.
Or play rogue trash and win tournaments anyways.
Post your deck, I'm willing to bet your problem isn't your lack of Shaymin.

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>>26604099
>top-tier
>Garchomp

>>26588042
So, wait. The left one has holo on the whole card and the reprint only has holo on the art box?

>>26604138
Tier 4 is still a tier.

>>26603822
I have a couple of tradeable Shaymin I never do anything with. What can you offer?

>>26604175
First off
>tier
>top-tier
>same thing

Second off,
>tier 4
>impressive

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>trying to put together Yveltal/Zoroark deck for playing later today
>have all the Pokes required
>still 12-15 cards short of a full deck

>buy a single pack of Plasma Freeze
>pull a secret rare out of it
>it's not ultra ball

Damn it.

>>26604779
Shinymon or Hyper Potion?

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>>26604889
The worst one of course.

>>26588014
Why is nobody talking about this?
>start with wobb, malamar or flygon ex, shut down 50% of the current meta
>ninja boy and evolve on T2

>>26606258
It's safe to assume you won't be able to evolve that turn, since the Pokemon was just put into play.

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>>26606312

It has practically identical text to this card, which did allow you to evolve.

>>26606258
Because that sounds horrible?

Ninja Boy will be a 2-of tech for sure but I doubt it'll be the center of any really successful deck strategies.

>>26606312
It says effects transfer, so that might mean "able to evolve" in the same manner as "can't attack."

>>26606258
honestly it seems like an amazing card that will fit into and create tons of new strategies. Or at least old strategies rehashed.

>>26603800
Kalos Starter Set is not going to bump anything. If Phantom Forces doesn't rotate, it's by design, not because of some retarded "oh, we can't rotate this set because it'd violate some fictional maximum set amount to rotate" rule.

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updated, now with some statistics

how does the 24 ticket tournament schedule work? I've still got 300 tix to blow and there hasn't been any today

>>26604203
6RS and 12FC?

>>26607719
are you mad senpai?

>>26607780
Make me an offer then

I have a choice between adding one of the two Diancie EX's to my collection (not including the one with Jap text), which one should I get?

>>26607812
They're both terrible.

>>26604203
This is all I have

>>26604099
I'm playing Bunnelby/Sableye Hammers in Exntended, and Vespiqueen/Vileplume lock in Standard since they seemed like budget options to use for each format. Both would benefit greatly from a single shaymin, being able to ultra ball into more gas without using Jirachi would be fantastic.

The butthurt the decks cause is just gravy on top

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>>26608548
>>26604203
Forgot image

>>26608548
>playing Expanded before you even have Shaymin
Vespiquen/Vileplume is absolutely not a budget deck, since its one of the few decks that require 3-4 Shaymin to operate on a fundamental level

>>26608579
That's what I realized after replicating the list without Shaymin, and hence my frustration.

Ultimately, it seems most decks benefit from the raw draw power Shaymin gives you, and ultimately every deck wants these cards. If this were a certain other TCG, the card would be banned in a heartbeat

>>26608563
Why you save untradeable packs?

>>26608633
They're currently up for trade. All of them are tradeable.

>>26608620
Again, there are plenty of decks that don't need Shaymin to operate.

>If this were a certain other TCG, the card would be banned in a heartbeat
Why? Because it's a staple?
Because if that's the case, Shaymin would absolutely not be the first card considered for that reason. Every deck demands 4x Sycamore, VS Seeker, and Ultra Ball, whereas several decks get by with 0-2x Shaymin at most.

>>26608672
There really aren't that many. Greninja and Garchomp are the only ones that come to mind. Although some decks are slow paced enough that Octillery is an acceptable replacement in the mean time.

>>26608620
It would only be banned if the card had no drawbacks. It has several.

>>26604923
>Basic
>Safeguard
>Cool shiny pallet

Shit tastes breh.

>>26608770
Greninja, Garchomp, and Wailord are all on the tier list. That's 3/15 decks that don't run an important staple card.

But the tier list doesn't matter. You're talking about winning tournaments on PTCGO, right? You can do that with any deck. And there are dozens of rogues that do not use Shaymin, that I have personally won several tournaments with.

>>26608803
Care to give a new player some names of rogue lists, or decklists?

Buy a custom deck to start playing offline, it is $90 and almost half of it from 4 vs seeker, wonder how much cost a top tier deck

>>26608949
A top tier deck costs anyway from $150 to $200. Most of it comes from two $40 Shaymins and a playset ($40) of VS Seekers. The rest is usually pretty cheap.

Greninja is probably the cheapest because of not running Shaymin and Rayquaza is probably the most expensive because it runs four.

>>26608822
Pick anything that doesn't need to turbo. Meaning, not Night March, Vileplume, Trevenant, M Ray, or anything that relies on T1 DCE/DDE.

Virtually every EX, Break, Mega, and non-NFE Pokemon outside of the obviously unusable ones is viable online.

>>26608790
>$200
>$70
>$35
>$30
>$20
>$15 (Sigilyph)

Objectively worst possible secret rare.

checking out these regionals decks and like half of them splash in maxie/gallade or maxie/archeops

wtf

>>26610008
They're really great cards? How is this confusing?

>>26608822
Wobbuffet/Gengar-EX is a neat one that needs no Shaymin.

>>26609188
Resale value is not one of the points I made, anon.

Enjoy your pretty card.

So the client won't work for me anymore. It click on and it opens for 5 seconds and then closes. I've restarted my computer and uninstalled/reinstalled it. What else can I do?

>>26610545
Uninstall it out of control panel using the "Change" button and not the "Uninstall" button.

>trying to do any damage or KO challenge
>spend 2-3 turns setting up
>opponent concedes

every fucking time

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Are primes in the reverse holo slot like break cards are?

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Why is Yveltal so based bros?

Magearna-EX card up on Pokebeach. Only partial translation so far.

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>>26611541
You could at least post what they have

Magearna-EX – Metal – HP160
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Mystic Heart
Translation forthcoming.
[M][C][C] Soul Blaster: 120 damage. During your next turn, this Pokemon’s Soul Blaster attack does 60 damage.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1

>>26611583
Ability: Mystic Heart
Prevent all effects of your opponent’s attacks, except damage, done to each of your Pokemon that has any [M] Energy attached to it.

>>26611583
Not the worst EX we've seen, but while Night March is still around.........

>>26611928
So it negates secondary effects? Neat, but underwhelming.

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>>26611583
>>26611583
>that cannon

WE B-FIGHTER AGEHA NOW

BLOOM CANNON BUPPANASE!!

>>26611583
>awful attack
>mediocre ability
>low end HP

Useless.

>>26588076
This seems destined to be in bats decks.

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>ban is lifted
>don't feel like playing anymore

Could they at least make challenges that require knockouts doable against bots? The rate this is going I am going to have to do 40+ games.


And no the solution isn't fucking with the concede function.