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Why can't the animators draw cleavages? Look at Alexa. It's

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Why can't the animators draw cleavages?
Look at Alexa. It's ridiculous. It looks like she has a single boob.
And no, it's not the angle, nor is that Pokémon is for kids, because other shows for kids in Japan show much raunchier stuff.
They used to draw cleavages in the past. What changed?
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Monoboob
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>>26533741
>because other shows for kids in Japan

Because the show is EXPLICITLY designed with export in mind.

We never see them handling money in the show anymore, or see any actual writing on buildings anymore.

That tiny little line would get the entire show banned in some countries.

Its fucking stupid, but that's the reason.
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>>26533765
this
Remember all those banned episodes?
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>>26533765

this, but why they didn't design her shirt with that in mind I have no fucking clue.
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>>26533765
>>26533773
But how can a fucking cleavage be enough?
Other American animated and live-action shows for kids show them.
It's not as if they were showing naked tiddies.
It's very stupid and it harms the show artistically.
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>>26533741
>still playing pokemon game

Okey

>still watching pokemon animation

Whats the fuck are you thinking retard
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Cleavage is generally more acceptable if it's a Western-made show, if it's on the beach, or if it's drawn in a very non-provocative way.
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>>26533882
>non-provocative way
but anon... this image is provocative
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dont they actually draw her cleavage in the original? i thought the mono boob was a localization edit
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>>26533741
thats BW for you here you have XY
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>>26533741
It's not that they can't.

It's that they're allowed to.

>>26533937
You would be wrong.
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>>26533882
>non-provocative
>Caillou's mom, the most provocative woman in animation history
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>>26533970
This is a shop, actually.

I was in that thread.
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>>26533978
>Caillou's mom is less attractive than Olive Oyl
HA HA HA HA!
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>>26533798
America isn't the only place this stuff's exported to
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>has tits in the manga
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>>26534062
More than half the shit that goes on in Adventures probably wouldn't be allowed in the anime anyway.
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>>26534020
But it is the most important market, or do you think the nips actually care about the rest of the world?
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>>26534062
The manga also has a Psyduck melting and an Arbok getting chopped in half, the manga artists don't give a fuck.
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>>26533882
>non-provocative
>posts the first animated woman I ever fapped to
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>>26533970
If this was actually real, it would have made more sense, and it isn't even that overly sexualised. It's just a cleavage like the ones you can see IRL.
But it isn't, and this scene looks stupid as fuck because of that. Any normal woman with that size of breasts (which aren't even abnormally big) would show cleavage at that angle if they're wearing that.
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>>26534106
They do and they have to to make it easier on their other subsidiaries (like how north america has Nintendo of America) to adhere to their own laws.

In a similar vein, League of Legends bowed to their Chinese overlords and made the Skeleton character into a spoopy ghost, and also cut all wine and cigars away. But I guess you cant censor Gragas even in China.
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>>26533741
>Why can't the animators draw cleavages?
Elesa had a cleavage in BW with her leather vest and dress.
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>>26534148
But why would they dress their characters like this if they supposedly know that they can't show cleavages? There's no way they'll look normal without them.
It's fucking madness. I'm sure there are other Nintendo properties that allow this kind of stuff.
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>>26533882
>Caillou masturbating furiously.png
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>>26533798
>it harms the show artistically
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>>26533773
...James had a nice rack. There I said it.
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>>26534170
I agree. Giving her a tie that tucked under her shirt would solve monoboob and look stylish to boot.
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>>26534170
For sluts to cosplay
Eyecandy, anon. they strictly follow laws from even the most retarded of countries if they want a market in them, but that doesnt mean they dont want 9 year old boys getting boners because they're the ones pulling at momma's pants begging her to buy that card pack that might have Alexa in it somewhere...
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>>26534156
Literally the only scene where she has one. Perhaps the Korean drawing that frame snapped and realised that she looked alien without a cleavage.
Elesa also looks unnatural without a constant cleavage; she literally only had one in that scene you mention and that was it. Her normal outfit should even show underboob due to the way it fits to her body.
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>>26533798
Listen, buddy. I'm anti-censorship too but the anime is a glorified commercial. Pick your battles.
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>>26534221
Then explain all the other children anime that do this kind of stuff.
(gif related)
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>>26534271
Digimon doesnt care about its market outside of Japan because it doesnt have that much of one. It's a purely japanese show and it doesnt try to be anything else. It has no need to conform.
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>>26533798
>Other American animated and live-action shows for kids show them.
>America
well there's your problem right there. try to remember the world is much bigger than your own country
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>>26533798
it harms the show artistically.
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>>26534271
That was before Shintaro Ishihara and tighter censorship practices from Japan's interest in globalizing, anon.
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>>26534291
They accept cleavages in their own programs and in whatever shows they import from other countries, but if a jap draws it, suddenly it's evil and must be deleted.
>>26534318
How come all the other shows can continue doing it? How come a kodomo manga like Pokémon Adventures gets away with it. Those regulations would be "universal" don't you think? Adventures is sold worldwide too.
>>26534176
>>26534298
Fucking hell anons.
>be Cho-Moon Park, a random Korean animator
>spend 13 hours drawing frames every fucking day
>the conditions are awful, the pay is worse
>only reason why you continue is because you love drawing
>then be hired to animate Pokémon
>draw a cleavage because any normal woman would show one if she was wearing that shirt
>Mr. Tanaka shows up and tells you to start again after you submitted the finished work
>"You cantto doraw cureevages, Paaku-san! Za Americansu cantto akuseptto zem! Staato agen! You getto no pay desu!"
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They didn't draw Cynthia's cleavage either
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>>26534136

>posts the first animated woman I ever fapped to

How fucking underage are you?
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>>26534379
Because Cynthia's boobs are clearly parted to either side.
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>>26534379
Cytnhia is beautiful with or without cleavage
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>>26534393

>No-bra
I like that idea, they are free
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>>26534381

Caillou began in 1997, r34 became prevalent in the early 00's, anon is likely 20+.
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>>26534379
>>26534393
>>26534408

Cynthia is somewhat aware of the medium she is in. She wore her breasts in such a way that they are sexy as hell, but don't technically violate pokemon animation norms.

She is the champion, after all.
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>>26534423
No bra can hold the raw authority contained within Cynthia's chest.
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>>26534423
>A grown adult woman (well actually is she an adult? now im not sure) walking around adventuring in the world with no bra
wew
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They probably got into trouble drawing May's cleavage in the Lucario movie so they were told not to do it ever again.
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>>26534523
People in charge of animating the movies != People in charge of animating the anime.
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>>26534521
If anyone can do it, it is Cynthia.
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>>26534567
Next you'll tell me she's not wearing underwear either. She's just asking for the D.
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>>26534523
>>26534547

Molly got some in the 3rd movie
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>>26534547
Its still the same deal. Especially since May is a kid.
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>>26534585
How many years ago?
They haven't been "allowed" to draw cleavages in at least 10 years, and the results are nonsensical.
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Yet another one they didn't draw in the cleavage
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>>26534861
>she has 3 hideous pokemon
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>Americans allow this shit to be show to their children
>Can't allow a tiny bit of boob that you can see if you go outside.
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>>26534861
You're right, Delphox just looks weird without cleavage.
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>>26534949

Americans value violence and gore over sex
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>>26533741

I know right.
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>>26534993

Here is your Phox chest
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>>26535102
Anime redeemed.
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>>26533741
I'm pretty sure 4kids just edits out that line or something.
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>>26535292
>4kids
kek'd
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>>26535292
No, they replace it with a sandwich.
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>>26535292
1. 4kids ceased to exist 8 years ago
2. That's how it looks in the Japanese broadcast as well.
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We should just respect the artists' artistic vision and not try to bring your politics into it, mmmkay?
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>>26535712
I agree, we got porn artist for such things.
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>>26535712
Shut up, Cathcart.
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>>26534271
Is this frontier? I Don't remember that part
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>still watching pokemon


What the fuck faggots
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>>26535808
Fuck off.
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>>26535827
You too niggas
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>>26535832
>maybe if i continue frogposting i'll stop feeling so empty inside the shell that used to be myself
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>>26535808
At least it's better than the games
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>>26534375
>How come all the other shows can continue doing it? How come a kodomo manga like Pokémon Adventures gets away with it. Those regulations would be "universal" don't you think? Adventures is sold worldwide too.
The manga doesn't have close to the universal appeal of the anime.
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>>26533741
Her official game artwork looks like that too, which is probably the main reason >>26534170
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>>26534930
Vivillon is adorable tho. What are you smoking?
Delphox is a waste of potential of a design but looks ascetically appealing outside of its 3D model. Agreed with Aromatesse tho
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>>26533798
>Other American animated and live-action shows for kids show them.
I can't think of any kids shows within the last 10 years that have had cleavage. Live action shows are a given though because you can't get rid of it without it looking like utter shit.
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>>26538055
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>>26534408
This
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>>26538430
Regular Show isn't really a kids show though as much as it's a show for everyone. I mean it contains more adult humor than anything else.
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>>26538504
It's main demographic is still children, but it can appeal to all ages, just like any cartoon on CN should.
My point still stands. Not drawing cleavages when a character is wearing something that would show them is dumb, and the excuse that is because of American audiences is shallow and dumber.
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>>26538504
It contains no humor. Standing around bullshiting until stoners start laughing because the characters are stupid isn't humor.
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>>26538741
Not that guy, but it used to have really adult humor until parents complained. The show was supposed to be on Adult Swim until CN just said 'let's put it on the kid's block'. So now that's why the show is about Mordecai complaining about his fucking girlfriends.
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>STILL liking golem
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>>26534619
"""""""""""""""""""""""kid"""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>26536426
If you're told you're the only Japanese game franchise that cannot put cleavages on any of their women, then why the fuck do you draw characters with clothing that would show cleavage?
>>26536229
"Universal" means that it should have affected all manga published in Tokyo. And Pokémon Adventures is as valid as the TCG, the anime, and everything else that is used to promote the franchise. It's just not as sold, but it is directed at the same demographic and you can buy it in 'murica too.
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>>26539549
Pokemon Adventures gets redrawn in murrica because it's too violent/sexy/whatever, though.
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>>26539638
How much of a prude would you have to be to start blurring out a decent, non-lewd cleavage?
I've seen women wearing that kind of cleavages at church ffs
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>The main purpose of tits is literally for children
>"We can't show cleavage on a kids show, it's obscene!"

Why is it like this
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>>26533741
>>26533798
>>26539638

I asker my 12 year old brother if kids his age watched anime like my generation did.
I got the news that the parents of some classmates think that Japanese Cartoons are anti-christian propaganda.
i guess Red China is still a thing in Japan
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>>26539885
Protestants. These fuckers villified the church and ruined the occidental world with their heresy
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>>26539902
Mexico is more Christian than the US, yet we had uncensored Dragon Ball and even Ranma 1/2 on free-to-air TV during the 90s.
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>>26539902
> i guess Red China is still a thing in Japan
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>>26539902
>There are twelve year olds that listen to what their parents want instead of being rebellious little shits

What is this? A 1950s American household?
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>>26539935
It's called living in Mississippi
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>>26539928

But Mexico can't be more Christian than America, they arent even white.
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>>26539928
You can't be truly christian unless you're white and orthodox. Catholicucks are going straight to hell.
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>>26539928
también vivía en México
Thing is that Mexico is actually Catholic, and since its pretty much everyone's religion, they don't go force feeding it into every sphere of private living.
In the US you are concidered a good Christian if you vote for Trump's party, and a Communist if you vote for the other one.
Also, most anime was bought straight from Japan, like Digimon. Just look at the Latin OP http://youtu.be/BAIHfGw-TbM
The one Amerifags got http://youtu.be/gDvRV8KGphk
And the original http://youtu.be/7cSB1IZU_8U

Also, Mexican parents see them as fucking cartoons and don't expect TV to educate their children, like Anericans do.
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>>26539932
God, I love Oolong

>>26539935
Its called being patriotic
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>>26540007
>mexican children don't get taught good values by their cartoons
>end up beheading each other and trying to violate the sovereignty of other countries

You're not making a good case here.
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>>26540007
>Advantages of being a Mexican
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>>26540020
>You're not making a good case here.

>MFW school/church shootings are not a thing in Mexico
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>>26540020
>Implying that TV is the only way kids should be educated
>Implying that shows like Sanjay and Craig, Breadwinners and Uncle Granpa teach valuable lessons
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It is like they just said "fuck it, we are doing tits" when it came to Prima
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>>26540038
>i sure am glad drug gangs raped my family outside of church
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>>26540058
>i sure am glad all the children at sandy hook got massacred by a literal autist
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>>26540038
Instead your shootings are just scaled up to country-wide.
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>>26540058
>i sure am glad Kentucky isn't a thing and Raegan successfuly cleansed the country from drugs
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>>26540085
i am fine if two gangs shoot themselves to extinction, but not okay with Sandyhook-tier shit
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>>26540085
Shootings are directed towards cartel members. If you're not into trafficking drugs and Hondurans, you're most probably going to be fine.
But when I go to the US, I can't go to Wendy's without being afraid that a suicidal retard could come in with an Uzi and start spraying bullets like a beast.
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>>26540127
Literally never happens while your entire country is a warzone.
The funniest part of having you third worlders on 4chan is hearing just how fucking silly you little non-humans are.
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>>26540139
But anon-kun
>I can't go to Wendy's without being afraid that a suicidal retard could come in with an Uzi
Shit like that does happen in the US

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy%27s_massacre

You must watch Fox News
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>>26533882
Why do you have this anon?...

Better question, why DON'T I have this?
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>>26540089
no one is claiming the us is drug free. it just isn't run by drug gangs. this should have been obvious even for someone with a third world education

>>26540069
>retards fixate on specific instances that make up a tiny percentage of crime rates because they're incapable of understanding statistics
i guess i can't expect much from someone living in the country equivalent of detroit
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>>26540139
What is this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald's_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy's_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States
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>>26540161
>>26540184
Stop it, you're scaring me!
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>>26540166
>it just isn't run by drug gangs.

>Not knowing that the US military purpossefully allows most drugs spotted being imported into Hawaii to not be confiscated.
It is still nicer than giving guns to drug-financed regimes, and being trigger happy and bombing hospitals because muh freedom.
How many people in your household are armyfags, anon?
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>>26540166
Sure dis a dang good 'ol nation, ain't dat right boy?
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>>26540220
>tfw no qt redneck bf
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>>26538764
>The show was supposed to be on Adult Swim
You're one of those dumbasses that thought Spongebob was supposed to be an adult cartoon, aren't you?
Regular Show was always intended for CN, but when it started, executives were looking to age things up from the TV-Y7 demographic, so they allowed more adult humor in the show. But you're right, enough parents complained, so they had to tame it down a shit ton.
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>>26540139
>>26540184
>be me, Amerifag, studying abroad in Japan.
>CNN News are on in dinner hall
>San Bernardino shooting happening
(Japanese friend) Anon, why are there so many shootings in the US?
MFW when 3 shootings in 1 semester
MFW no Face
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>>26540196
I can't help that you're too stupid to realize you're more likely to get killed by lightning.

>>26540215
>It is still nicer than giving guns to drug-financed regimes
No it isn't. And desu the countries they do that to are already third world shitholes like yours so it's really more of a lateral move

>bombing hospitals because muh freedom.
>my country is internationally irrelevant so i take pride that they never do anything negative on account of never doing anything
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>>26540290
If I go to an open field during a lightstorm, of course it'll be more likely that I would die from lightning.
If I go to school in the USA, of course it'll be more likely that I would die from literal retards carrying guns.
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>>26539976
>Orthodox

lol you know that they're essentially Slavic nationalists at the same time as being a Church, right?
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>>26540290
>I can't help that you're too stupid to realize you're more likely to get killed by lightning.

The people who died in those massacres weren't.

Statistics don't matter in the end.
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>>26540252
Chill out, I just heard that it was supposed to be on AS. I'm sorry. Kind of a shame that it got toned down, the cartoon was a lot better before. It's still decent when it's not about 'Mordecai obsesses over cloud girlfriend/bird girlfriend' or 'Rigby realizes he has to man up for his weird beaver girlfriend'.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>26540290
Literally all the wars and conflicts the US has gotten after WWII have all been commenced by the Autism of the US government trying to make everyone live like them
>they never do anything negative on account of never doing anything
>thinks that Hollywood and being the only constant in war through the world is something to be proud of

Still haven't answered, how many people are armyfags in your household?
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>>26540315
>Statistics don't matter in the end.
Dumb third worlders in a nutshell.

>>26540308
Many more people go to school than stand in fields yet many more people are hit by lightning than killed in a school shooting. I don't think you understand probability.
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>>26540391
>Dumb third worlders in a nutshell.
>Be me, 35 years old, got a wife and 3 year old daughter
>commuting to work as IT specialist at a company
>lunch time arrives, since I am a first-world Patrician I don't bring lunch to work, like some dark skinned poorfag.
>go to nearby burger joint to purchase food
>finishing business transacation, and receiving my food
>begging to eat when suddenly 15 year old breaks in with gun
>ohshit.jpg
>MFW I get shot
But muh statistics!
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>>26540368
>US polices the world
>everyone cries about it
>US stops policing the world
>things go to shit, everyone cries about it until the US comes back

Actually having the world's best universities and being the foremost country in engineering and science is probably the biggest thing to be proud of.

>Still haven't answered, how many people are armyfags in your household?
0 dumbfuck.
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>>26540451
I realize the only way you can reason is to imagine something happening to you and judge by your immediate emotional reaction due to your lack of education. But what I don't understand is why that doesn't apply to the much more likely scenario of your wife getting kidnapped and murdered by a mexican gang and not just getting shot at a burger king.
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>>26540051
Why the hell they called him Prima instead Lorelei?
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>>26540453
>>US stops policing the world
>>things go to shit, everyone cries about it until the US comes back
>CIA finances Bin Laden
>9/11
>How could this happen?

Don't you mean most expensive universities?
Being the bitch of the oil industry doesn't make you the foremost country in science
Have you seen what Taiwan is doing to actually help public transportation? That is engineering.
Military aircraft is useless implementation of engineerin. Unless it helps the residents of the country, is nothing worth bragging about.

How come you are this autistic, then?
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>>26540499
>not understanding that numbers and reality don't match up each other.
>not realising that drug wars are issues between 2 beligerents
>not realising that in the US going to Wendy's, or even school is an issue
Not even drug lords execute 6 year olds, anon
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>>26540532
>the middle east would be totally peaceful and extremists and dictators would never arise if the us didn't fuck with it!
latin/south america is good evidence that after the us stops fucking with third worlders they just devolve into even worse corruption and violence. that said i actually agree that the us should just leave you alone and let you fuck up your own countries. but that won't change perception because you have to have someone to blame the shitty state of your country on.

>the foremost in computer science, material engineering, etc
>dumb third worlders can't understand anything more complicated than building better trains
>nothing is important unless you give it to third worlders for free

>How come you are this autistic, then?
I'm just not incapable of thinking with anything besides my feelings while that's all you have.
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>>26540516
4Kids weren't familiar enough with the franchise to realize she wasn't made up by the anime writers for that episode.

inb4 some faggot posts that usual "Lorelei is too long a name for the mouthflaps" bullshit excuse
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>>26540558
>numbers and reality don't match up each other
>this is literally how mexicans think
>facts don't matter because i feel differently

>>not realising that drug wars are issues between 2 beligerents
belligerents like anyone who looks rape or ransomable
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>>26540614
Diff anon, but...
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>>26540658
>implying fundamentalist groups and dictatorships don't come into power in the middle east even without foreign intervention
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>>26540697
But they were funded by US, man
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>>26540779
This
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>>26540051
More
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>>26542048
You can't have more because the 'muricans won't let you.
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>>26533798
Because it's all about giving a wide berth to any possible restrictions that could slow down or stop the episode. Like they could probably get away with some cleavage here and there, but they don't want to deal with the work if it did end up getting restricted.

Essentially they just want everything to go as smoothly and quickly as possible and that means removing anything that might be a hindrance to exporting, regardless of whether it's realistically a problem.
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>>26540102
>i am fine if two gangs shoot themselves to extinction, but not okay with Sandyhook-tier shit

Yeah but gangs are in fact killing random civilians, especially ones that protest and shit. Hell they're still trying to piece together what happened to something like 50 college students who all disappeared in one night and ended up as ashes in some ditch.
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>>26540630
>inb4 some faggot posts that usual "Lorelei is too long a name for the mouthflaps" bullshit excuse

But that IS the excuse whether you like it or not, you fucking retarded faggot. Lorelei's Japanese name is "Kanna" which has two syllables: Kan-na, Prima also has two syllables: Pri-ma. Comparing that to Lorelei: Lo-re-lei.

Same shit with Ash Ketchum, his Japanese name is Satoshi. Let's compare the syllables shall we? Ash-Ket-chum Sa-to-shi
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>>26540697
Dude, I know that shitty people are going to be shitty anywhere but you can't just destabilize a government and fund radicals and then pretend like they would have been able to do it without you. Especially when it's happened several times.
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>>26544160
Ko-ji-ro
James

Fuck off, retard, that's not how dubs work.
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>>26544474
Yes they do, kill yourself
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>>26544517
Ok, and how has that never even a problem for any other character in the dub for 20 years?

Stop sucking 4Kids dick and just admit they fucked up.
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>>26540614
That's dumb. The reason they fuck themselves up is because the US leaves a country in shambles before getting out 9 times out of 10. That's like complaining about Africa being worse without Europe and colonialism, seriously go read a book. Go take a college class on some history, or better yet download a video, since it sure as hell is hard paying for college in the US.
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>>26544114
They weren't innocent people. Don't believe what the social media may say. Those "students" were the kind of people who burn buses and make blockades in the freeway to attract attention. They messed up with the wrong people and got fucked. I don't wish that kind of things to happen to anyone, but they went for it.
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>>26534086
>Leaf's pokeball tiddies trick
>Sapphire and Flannery's hot action "Gym Battle"

The list goes on and on
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