/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

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>>26506691
Got there in the end and managed to make a thread without doing something dumb. Any writers still in here? I was enjoying reading everyone's stuff.

>>26506846
Edgy PMD guy from the last thread. Only have 1 chapter finished; the second's nearly there. I'm still working on it. Chapter 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F3_DiEgk57JXQkQBZ3kOog9IPED_aZ4psbe3uOjXApI/edit?usp=sharing

The link to Chapter 2 is included at the end of Chapter 1. Watch me suck horribly at writing in real-time!

Has anyone in here picked Meowth as their starter in RT?

>>26507506
bretty gud:::DD

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>>26507811
I picked him for my partner because animu Meowth was my favorite

>mfw no accent or Meowth traits
>didn't even like picking on twoips
>he was the twoip

>>26507811
it's okay. Pay day+pickup max elixers=money for days

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Name me two Pokemon to use as custom starters for Sky

This little guy was actually pretty good, self healing and the stats weren't awful

>>26508536
Sentret and Poochyena.

>>26508574
Fuck. Already used leader Poochyena before, so it shouldn't be too bad, besides Sentret essentially making the game into a glorified escort mission.

At least it's not double Kecleon+Unown.

>>26508536
Smoochum and Drifloon. Easiest mode.

Is there a wondermail generator for Explorers?

>>26508848
Sky:
http://apointlessplace.net/wms/wmgenerate.html

>>26508878
Nice, what about Rescuers?

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Having all the Pokemon in a straight line can be awkward with such large models
Case in point: face in ass

>>26508980
This works with B. Rescue. Not sure about R. though.
http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/sosgen/wondermail.html

>>26508615
>double Kecleon+Unown

Good lord has anyone actually ever done this?

>pointless filler like collecting unown stones and blue gummis just to pad the gameplay
>nothing connects with each other or bears any significance suddenly Azurill goes into a nightmare and "Cresselia" tells you to sudoku, leading up to Dark Crater
>all those parts are only like 4 dungeons
>everything that happened over the course of the game was just Darkrai doing it because he "wants to rule over a land of darkness"
>nigga's not even in the future special episode, where he actually succeeds
Anyone else kinda disappointed with the postgame?

>>26509843
You think that's bad? Play Supers post-game
Which is nonexistant after the Epilogue

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>>26509175
Exhibit B: Mawile's iron jaws.

>>26509903
Not him, but I didn't like that a whole second arc happened after the credits. I thought the game was over. Super's epilogue is only a few dungeons long and you can hit them all in a row which is great. Like that anon said, Explorers' "epilogue" so to speak is packed with filler and drags on forever, and I didn't really like that.

Stuff after the credits shouldn't be so important. Both games are an offender when it comes to putting story after the credits, it's just that I felt lied to with Explorers. "Oh, we're doing this again. I thought that was the ending." With Super, you knew you had something to do after the credits, they weren't just gonna leave it like that. Explorers had a happy ending and it didn't need to keep going.

>>26510027
Hey, maybe Vaporeon's into Vore?
Disgusting, I know

Guys I'm replaying Sky and I got Phanpy, is he any good?

I'm level 31 and I just finished chapter 14, how did I get so overleveled? I didn't even go to pelipper island yet.

I remember fighting dark matter at level 20 in my first playthrough. I was playing the USA version, now I'm playing the EUR one. Did they tweak the EXP rates or something?

>>26510197
Holy shit, that's insane. Maybe they did up EXP? I was also level 23 the first time I beat Super, and I'm NA.

>>26510197
No. You just got gud. Because you understand the game

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>>26510164
>Guys I'm replaying Sky and I got Phanpy, is he any good?

>>26509210
Needed it for Blue, thanks.

>>26510164
Hold on tight to a Reviver/Reviser Seed and use Natural Gift, it'll be your only STAB move unless you get an Earthquake TM.

>>26510197
I played EU and finished at level 28. Level 31 at Chapter 14 sounds pretty crazy. Don't see why they'd bother changing exp. rates/requirements for the EU release only.
I know that you get 125 exp. from Mysterious Geoglyph's Genesect in both EU and US, so at least some things are the same.

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>>26510164
>Guys I'm replaying Sky and I got Phanpy, is he any good?

>>26509843
No, I liked it. Darkrai didn't need to be in the special episode.
The non-Darkrai part of the postgame was nice and I don't see why it would have needed to be connected like that, it just happened. I think my favourite part of the postgame story was Drowzee and the nightmare dungeon.

>>26509843
Nah. If anything it's just as strong as the main game.

I like the idea that you end up doing a bunch of minor, unconnected adventures after you graduate, since it feels like you've really come into your own and you're no longer solely relying on the guild to do things. You're not struggling to get picked for an expedition or anything, you're actively picking up information and finding adventures to go on simply by being a full-fledged exploration team, or by meeting other exploration teams, or so on. You still go to the guild sometimes, and to get jobs for the daily grind, but it really feels like there's still a lot more to do without it being just over like that. And the final segment with some actual seriousness coming up again ends up being a nice capstone to the game as a whole, and it feels like a capstone to both the player and partner's development as well.

By comparison, Gates and Super have incredibly disappointing postgames because of the sheer amount of wasted potential. Gates could have had you controlling the partner, moving on after the player's disappearance, or they could have had you search over the world to find out how to bring the player back and eventually do so. Super has the same situation, and they kind of attempt it, but just half-ass it and cut it short after three dungeons rather than actually making it feel like you put effort into getting the partner back (the partner being extremely blase about their return doesn't help either).

>>26510158
>bulbasaur in the back going "UMMM"
>"No, no, it's like our thing? He's into it."
>vaporen, head completely enveloped by the iron jaw, "MMMMMPHHH"

>>26507506
An enjoyable read imo, but you seriously need to fix your format as that doc was really jerky to read. Your paragraphs should be separated with a line gap between them, with justified lines. Remove the indent thing you've got going on, it doesn't work.

I'd also try to differentiate Sunflora's and Loudred's old wounds a bit more rather than just describing the scars as scars. Loudred's could be an ugly thick gash with threads of red, cleaving his lips where the wound passes through. Sunflora could be missing petals, her leaves could be dying and burnt at the ends, but have a unmarked face except for a small but extremely deep scar, resembling a bullet wound with white radiating out from the middle. Just describing them as scars doesn't do the scar justice.

Other than that, you have a good start there. Keep it up!

>>26510197
Nah, I have the EU version and I finished the game at Lv24, and I was only that high because I was in the Cape of Wonders a lot. You're insanely high levelled for whatever reason. Are you just lucking out with the RNG and getting a bunch of missions in difficult dungeons that give more EXP or something?

>>26507506
The Unknown Continuum fag from last thread.

Pretty much what >>26507506 said, it's solid so far aside from the formatting. It made reading it a bit more awkward than it should have been. Also hope you have a very good reason to use both Riolu AND Eevee. Last couple of pages were the best part of chapter one, will keep an eye on this one.

>>26509843
I actually like the filler in the postgame for the way it fleshed out the world. Sorry if you were expecting some grand overarching plot when the main game already did it.

>pointless filler like collecting unown stones and blue gummis just to pad the gameplay
You mean just those two? Only Aegis Cave is undoubtedly terrible, while the Blue Gummis require two quick trips to Waterfall Cave. The rest of postgame's standard dungeon-crawling.

>all those parts are only like 4 dungeons
Yeah, the postgame does look pretty weak when you ignore 2/3s of it.
Even without them, it's still better than Super.

>>26513227
Like I said in the last thread, Riolu gives me the "aura" plot, has a minor type advantage over Darkrai, but still fails like a bitch when fighting Dusknoir. As for Eevee, I think I mentioned why, and I also think someone else was replying as to why, so just go check the old thread for the details if you are so inclined.

>>26513086
>Remove the indent thing
That's literally every book I've ever read. Seriously, I have a large shelf of books right next to me, I just picked up five or so, and all of them have indented text for a new paragraph. I don't know what you want from me there. As for the scars, you have a good point. I'll go edit that in right now.

Just a question, though: did nobody read the second chapter? Nobody at all? I need to know whether to knock Aislin out or have her stagger back with Rin and Loudred.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vy2nMa3I1sCAckyxFQOLh115s2VRvnGxRxkkKcVdWoI/edit?usp=sharing

>>26514380
Didn't even see there was a second chapter. I'll have a look now

>>26514380
>>26514475
Someone visits TV tropes

>>26514380
I'm Thymefag from the last thread lol, didn't mention that in >>26513086

Reading on a monitor is different from reading on paper - reading a monitor strains your eyes more and people naturally read slower. Broken apart paragraphs with gaps are preferred on a monitor as it makes it far easier to read, which is why its pretty rare to see a fic without that format online.

In the most blunt sense, if you ended up posting that unedited on ff.net or AO3 most people would immediately click off once they see the format without giving it a chance, which is a shame because what you have is an enjoyable and well written read.

Give that poor Eevee a break and let her stagger, I think she's had enough unconsciousness for one day.

>>26514380
Seems like you're giving the guild a bigger role. I like this, since they were just kind of there in Explorers. As many hangups as I had with Super's story, I like how the society there got more involved with the plot.

>>26514638
Fair point. Sorry, I'm not really used to "online" as much as I am on paper, and most of the stuff I've written has been school
papers. Also,
>enjoyable and well-written read
Oh, stop it, you're going to make me blush. Your stuff's much better than mine (or maybe I just think it is because I've been staring at this idea for months without doing anything about it).

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Another writer from the previous thread, I'm curious as to what you guys thought of what I posted in response about my drafts.
>>26505115
>>26505141

Fug. I was trying to play Japanese RT on VBA but shit won't save. C-can someone help me?

Would a totodile/pikachu team with a focus on rain dance and thunder be viable through the whole game?
Any team combo ideas would be nice.

>>26516810
Oh, nevermind: I fixed it. Shit needed to be on 64k, it seems.

>>26516896
Sounds like it could work, though keep in mind that Thunder's high power will become less useful as you progress.
It'll consistently be doing about 30-40 more damage than Thundershock, for example, though that extra 30-40 damage is going to become less and less important for higher levels.
50% extra on Water moves is always going to be great, though.

I guess Cherubi will never come back

First time playing Explorers of Sky and Id like to know what is the most efficient starter, as well as the most challenging.

>>26517900
Hardest mode is Phanpy lead, Eevee partner

>>26514638
Sounds like most people on those sites are pussies. It's like they've never seen a textbook pdf or something.

>>26517959
Went Shinx with Vulpix partner. I bet theres a ground type boss that will fuck me over hard.

>>26519113
wait until you fight the Rypherior

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lewd

>>26523164
Damn it Rhydon. Can we not go one mission without you complaining about kind of raging hard-on?

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>>26510158

>>26523164
fuck you and fuck your evolution level

>>26523222
With that beautiful gem of a quote, I'm not even mad about toting him around.
also nice trips

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What's with the NPCs' dialogue in this game?

>>26523859
is it even a kick if you hit with a knee?

>>26506691
Is super mystery dungeon worth a buy?

>>26523966


I asked myself that self same question anon.

>>26524795

Yes it is.

>>26525019
What's good about it, coming from someone who's last game was Sky since I heard too much bad shit about infinity

>>26525054

The things that were bad about infinity were mostly that it was short as fuck and lacked a good selection of mons, especially starter options. It wasn't even bad, just a massive disappointment, waiting 4 years after Sky only for it to be what GTI turned out to be. Oh and the missing mechanics, like hunger and IQ skills

Playing dungeons is similar to Sky, though. Hunger is back, but IQ skills are still gone, instead you'll find looplets that can stack 'emeras' in them to give you boosts, or you can use the emeras for temporary stat boosts. The AI seems improved from Sky, you don't have to babysit the tactics screen quite as much, but you'll still have to visit it now and again. Moves level up as you use them too, giving them more damage, PP and accuracy. The story is good too. I wouldn't say great, though.

A lot of people don't like the 'busy' mechanic, as it sometimes prevents you taking the mon you want on missions with you, but I've never had any problems with it, personally.

Rcruitment is pretty different too, your mileage may vary, but I like the Connection Orb, even if it does completely eliminate any need to ever evolve any pokemon, except maybe your starters. You can now learn egg moves in the postgame too, which really improves certain mons. You also only get one ability, which doesn't include hidden abilities, unfortunately. It stops certain pokemon being crippled, but it also prevents certain mons being overpowered too.

In my opinion it's almost, but not quite, as good as Sky.

>>26525054
Gates to Infinity was a prototype polished enough to be sold as a full game. It lacks a lot of stuff you would expect.
Super is more like what you would have expected after Sky.

>>26525132
GTI is still worth a play, though, if only for the actual explanation of how leveling moves works, the story (which imo was better than super), leveling while not used (it's fun to just pick random partners now and again), companion mode and if you have friends multiplayer.

>>26525966
>and if you have friends multiplayer
>tfw it's only local

>>26525966

How much does GTI cost again? It has DLC too, doesn't it? What's that cost too?

>>26526058
DLCs don't add anything of value. The game is easy enough as is.
I have no idea how much it costs, but if you have enough money, I'd consider buying it just for the sake of having played all the relevant games in the series, aside from the cameos in PSMD.

>>26523859
That means she likes you
Yes, she

>>26526410
If you talk to enough NPC's in Super you'll notice that a lot really like the PC

>>26526421

that fucking espeon and umbreon dialogue

scarred for life.

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>>26526421

I can't believe Kecleon just sells Joy Seeds in Rescue Team. I've never seen it happen in any of the other games.

After beating Rescue Team, is there any point in not evolving? I know you lose portraits, but is there any story after the ending where that would matter? Kinda want to turn my Cubone into Marowak.

Is it possible to keep my partner throughout the post game or is it gone forever once I do a mission? Without my partner, I just feel like saying "fuck it" when it comes to my reservations about evolving.

>>26528093
For Cubone, there's no reason TO evolve. I dont even think you get a single stat buff like in Sky.

You can keep your partner, but if you want it permanently on your team, you have to add it to the team every single day.

>>26528188
I was afraid of both of those answers. This was the state my old save was in before I restarted and I wasn't sure if there was any more dialogue before heading off to Stormy Sea. Cubone truly is the loneliest Pokémon.

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More of this?

>>26526515
Post it.

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Can someone please save me? I'm on floor 35, I'm so close.

>>26529181
Stormy Sea, by the way.

>>26529181
On it.

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>>26529051
Not that anon but I think this was it.

Haven't actually finished the game yet, is all the dialogue this weird/out of place?

>>26529597
No, they just wanted to have fun with a few mons.

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>>26529181
>>26529296 seems to be MIA, so I did the rescue.
No reward needed.

>>26529994
Thanks a bunch! I appreciate it.
>9 rescue chances left
Wow, that's pretty forgiving.

MD is always fun but always gets shitty scores.


I dont understand why pro-reviewers hate this game.

>>26530119
>play game for like an hour or two
>they generally dont like the genre as a whole
>not much happens in the first hour or two
>easier to say fuck it and give it a 6 or something and move on to the next game

>>26530119
It's a bunch of people paid for telling normies what opinion they should have. Normies are apparently unable to make opinions by themselves so they need to read a review to know. Even though they don't know, the only thing they would enjoy is something that's popular. Pokémon spinoffs are mildly popular, but just because of the name and the Pokémon themselves, because the main series is popular. Let alone other MD games.

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Which of these teams is the worst?

>>26533443
totodile chespin
turtwig chimcar
they're not that bad, i just like the others better

>>26533443
I don't really like Oshawott so that team gets my vote.

Treecko/Fennekin is what I play so it's the best but I like all of them except for Oshawott/Charmander.

>>26533443
Most of these teams can carry each other and survive together

>>26533443
Probably PikachuxMudkip or TepigxPiplup.

Mudkip is uninspiring in general, and it can't provide as a tank or a sniper very well, which Pikachu really needs.

Tepig does nothing the other fire starters don't do better. Piplup is a solid choice, which means Tepig is probably going to fade into obscurity.

>>26530179
>>26530258

The game is of an explicitly obsolete type dating far back into the history of roleplaying games.

The dungeons by design are generic looking as fuck, and in the 3DS games there's not even much of an attempt to present them in a more appealing way.

It doesn't help that they use the lifeless "generic models" from Pokedex Pro, so characters that are supposed to be considered children look indistinguishable from those that are supposed to be adults, its genuinely the definition of bad graphics when what is seen on the screen doesn't actually represent what is supposed to be taking place within the game world.

Either you love the genre, or you love the setting, and learn to love one due to familiarity with the other, or else these games have little appeal.

Look how bad that Mystery Dungeon game Sega tried to bring out on DS bombed.

I love the PMD games, I'm just being realistic.

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>>26533492
B-But Totopin is my favorite, anon
I was surprised that the two were actually said to be among the best in-game, perhaps that's why I barely had any difficulty with SMD compared to most

>>26533516
>obsolete
lol

>The game is of an explicitly obsolete type dating far back into the history of roleplaying games.
You do realize that makes no sense, right? Those are the basic mechanics for the genre, and this is true with most things.

>dungeons
Stop comparing them to the overworld. They aren't the overworld.

>characters that are supposed to be considered children look indistinguishable from those that are supposed to be adults
>because of their models
How would that even work? Just by size?
Super used not fully evolved Pokémon and pre-evolutions for that anyway, didn't it?

>its genuinely the definition of bad graphics when what is seen on the screen doesn't actually represent what is supposed to be taking place within the game world.
...What?

>Either you love the genre, or you love the setting, and learn to love one due to familiarity with the other, or else these games have little appeal.
Yeah, I can agree with this.

>Look how bad that Mystery Dungeon game Sega tried to bring out on DS bombed.
I know. PMD wouldn't have sold anything either if it wasn't Pokémon. That's what I meant in the last two lines of my post.

>>26533587 (Me)
As a side note, I hope Shiren 5+ sells well despite being on the Vita.

>>26533587
>lol
lol

>>26533632
>lol
lol

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>>26533702
you're cute :3

>>26533555
Totodile is one of the better characters? How?

>>26533717
t-thanks

>>26533815
you're welcome!

>>26533587

Well not "obsolete", just old fashioned, and in a way that isn't appealing to the average current RPG player.

And I'm not comparing dungeons to the overworld, I'm saying that the dungeons aren't made to look appealing at all, considering how much of the game is spent there, this is something that aught to be improved and is in their ability to do so.

>level 23 Meowth
>level 25 Totodile
>level 26 Absol
>still Sky Tower left
Am I overleveled?

>>26533805
Totodile is the best close-range brawler in the game, after discounting Squirtle. He's garbage if he can't get into melee range, but he is relatively tanky and has one of the best dprs in the game.

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>can't get wooper until post game in super

>>26529597

Thanks anon, that was it plus one of Umbreon and Espeon blushed and told Flareon to hush or something along those lines, that implied there was something there. Also the Jellicent interview with those two is absolutely full of implications.

It wasn't actually that bad, but hyperbole is fun

Weren't Espeon and Umbreon a brother sister team in GTI though?

>>26537120
>Weren't Espeon and Umbreon a brother sister team in GTI though?
That's just misinformation that somehow managed to spread actually. I searched through the entire script of the game for words like "brother", "sister" or "sibling" and if I remember correctly there were a few instances but they just had nothing to do with Umbreon and/or Espeon.

>>26537216

Fair enough, I haven't actually played GTI personally. The fact it still costs nearly as much as PSMD has put me off to be honest.

Are starters worth using after beating the main game? I picked charmander and chikorita and I don't know if I should waste my drugs on them. Chikorita was the MVP in the story because she learns dual screens and shit. Charmander was bad because he only learns like 2 decent moves but now he has heat wave. They have good movesets but there are better pokemons.

>>26539062
Of course there are better Pokémon, but If we're talking about Super, it's worth roiding up your starters because they are exempt from the lockout system. You can use almost any Pokémon and get good results outside of challenge dungeons.

>>26539062
Chikorita remains rock solid as a choice, since as a Grass Type it can Absorb Tank.

'Zard is pretty much the best final starter evo, and Chikorita actually complements it really well.

Charmander should more than likely evolve, Chikorita has good incentive to evolve in Petal Blizzard, but you could go without that if you want to keep Chikorita as is for adorable reasons..

Those two actually make a better post-game team than most.

>>26539204

Drain punch/pin missile/rollout combo makes Chespin a monster, just make sure you bring something for ghosts.

>>26539204
I'm not sure if I want to evolve Charmander. They have pretty much the same moveset right?

>>26539669
Charizard gets a flying movement type, a large increase in learnable moves, and roflstomps the level 1 dungeons (If you get the right combination of starting moves, at least).

I mean, If you don't want 'Zard don't evolve it, but just know Charmande has the second-most incentive to evolve out of all the starters, barring Riolu who needs to evolve to get out of shit-tier.

>>26537216
Just the English script? What about Japanese?

Are the legendaries in Rescue Team worth using? I recruited Articuno and it beasts everything because of its level. Will this persist or does it drop off? Thinking about feeding it a bunch of Gummis.

>>26539752
Uhm. I don't know enough about Japanese to check it. I'd assume there are more ways to say (or even write) brother/sister/sibling than I know of.

>>26539884
Not especially. Their stats are pretty much the same as regular 'mons and any difference can be made up pretty easily with vitamins and gummis.

A few are above one star in size which is a no-go if you plan on doing some recruiting.

The highest level enemies you'll find in dungeons are about level 50, so Articuno's in a good position. Damage exponentially increases with level, meaning it isn't really going to drop off.

Man, the games after Rescue Team saving team configurations is something I won't take for granted anymore. Such a little thing, saving 20 seconds.

>>26539884
You might think Articuno is a good idea, right up until something uses Rollout on you. With enough Gummis anything can be good, though. That size rating really hurts though, you can't recruit most legendaries when using one yourself.

>>26540550
>>26542491
I forgot about max team size and all that. That's a bummer. It's good for recruiting non-legendaries at least, but I guess that won't mean much once I get other Pokémon up to that level.

>>26542590
Legendaries are pretty much just normal pokemon aside from their "boss" status in the story. Everything can hit 255 in all stats, what matters is abilities/movesets.

>>26542649
I've never found a vitamin, are all stat boosts from gummis?

>>26542659
Stat boosts CAN come from gummis. Vitamins exist, they're just rarer than gummis.

>>26542659
Vitamins are found in a few places, mainly the Three Fields and Western Cave. Gummi boosts are more reliable, but always use them in friend areas. Some dungeons have items in the walls, and they can be found there rarely, depending on the dungeon

>>26537216
They were research partners who investigated the gates from the title together

GTI didn' say anything about them being siblings but it did specify that Umbreon is male and Espeon is female. Since the only relationship that a male and female can have is siblings or fugging the fanbas eextrapolated from there

>>26542773
They could just be close friends. Isn't that an option?

>>26543092
no

>>26542773
>>26543114
>a male cant be friends with a female
but that's simply just not true

>>26542682
>Gummi boosts are more reliable, but always use them in friend areas
Unless you're trying to use them on the MC, in that case you're shit out of luck

>>26543472
Before you can change the leader, that is.

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post 'em

>>26545022
>tfw have only played RT

>>26545105
oh shit nigger what are you doing

get on that shit

>>26545022
>My GBA Rescue Team got stolen
>Never really sat down and played Time and if I did I don't remember
>Never played Sky
>Never played Gates
PMD: Riolu/Fennekin

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>>26545022
Story teams

RT: Mudkip/Cyndaquil
Sky: Mudkip/Skitty Wooper/Mareep with editor
Gates: Oshawott/Snivy
Super: Chespin/Cyndaquil

Postgame teams

RT: Wooper
Sky: Wooper/Ampharos/Drifblim
Gates: Oshawott/Wooper/Snivy didn't play much for the postgame
Super: Chespin/Ampharos/Wooper

Holy shit, it's fun as fuck to turn enemies into monies with Meowth. Why didn't anybody tell me about that earlier?

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>>26545022
>tfw lazy
Blue RT: Pikachu/Squirtle (still trying out different combos, pic related is most recent)
Explorers T/D: didn't play
Explorers Sky: Riolu/Torchic
Gates: didn't play but would pick Pikachu/Snivy if I did
Super: Treecko/Fennekin (finally settled on a team after three playthroughs

>>26545022
Am I supposed to put the MC in the first box or second?

>>26545339
I put MC on the left and partner on the right.

>>26545339
MC on the left and partner on the right is how I imagined it when I made it

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>>26545364
>>26545406
That's the order I assumed was the correct one, but when I started I put them in backwards for some reason, so I got confused.

>>26545022
I don't remember at all who I had for the first explorers as a partner, and I'm not certain about rescue teams partner, those were both too long ago for me to remember.
I played the demo for Gates and picked snivy, but I don't remember who my partner was.

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>>26545022
I dont remember who I used when I played Darkness because of how long ago it was.

>>26545022
>tfw too lazy to make an actual image
Posting them anyway.

>RRT/BRT: Never actually played
Seriously, what did these games have that Explorers didn't?
>Time: Chimchar/Treecko
It was supposed to be Riolu/Chimchar but I forgot that Chimchar wasn't an option in Sky, then I just rolled with it.
>Sky: Riolu/Chimchar
Riolu is challenge mode, but not enough to make it impossible; Chimchar's also a tricky one to use, making life even more interesting. Ha ha, I died so many times. I still have nightmares about Amp Plains.
>GTI: Snivy/Oshawott
This started my love affair with the Snivy line. Oshawott was...really just the best of the rest, given that all of the rest were kinda crap.
>SMD: Riolu/Chimchar, Snivy/Fennekin, Riolu/Fennekin (yes, I've done 3 playthroughs and am working on a 4th with Riolu/Fennekin again because I got bored)
Honestly, Fennekin is the best partner ever. Riolu/Chimchar was in an attempt to recapture Sky, but I just didn't like it as much and needed something fresh. Snivy was just out of a misplaced loyalty to GTI, but then I went back to Riolu.

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>>26545022
I did play Time a good while ago, but I forgot who I started with originally because I used loads of codes to change my player and partner.

>>26545022
Blue - Cubone/Cyndaquil
Darkness - Bulbasaur/Torchic
Sky - Chikorita/Torchic
GTI - Tepig/Axew Didn't finish this one
Super - Turtwig/Charmander

>>26545822
Laziness, ho!

>RRT
My first run I got Charmander with a Mudkip partner. My favorite run was Meowth with a Treeko

>Darkness
Charmander and Riolu. I managed to get my favorite starter in both games, first try.

Sky: Munchlax and Squirtle

GTI: AxewxPikachu master race.

SMD: Charmander and Chikorita. I picked Charmander this time. Chikorita was suggested out of the intro. I was not dissapointed.

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>>26545022

I have yet to play the two others, but on each games i took the quiz honestly for my first run and it's always gave me out Brave type

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>>26545022
r8 and h8

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>>26545022
I've always tried to change up the partner in every game since they're technically a whole new different character. Haven't played Gates, but Snivy/Oshawott seems pretty cool.

>>26510197
I was 34 when I finished the game, I did everything I could have done before going against Dark Matter

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Haven't played GtI yet but I will probably go for Axew as MC now that I have the "means" to play it.

>>26547460
Axew's double slap is overpowered for most of the game, especially since the move can level, and get a fuckton of PP.
I'd pick something more interesting, even though there's not many options.

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>>26517791
>mfw

>>26545822
>not playing rt
lol

>>26549067
>lol
not again

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>>26545259
Decided to not be lazy anymore.

>>26549164
>not again
lol

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He seems like the best 'parent' the MC has in any pokemon game so far. Hope he still gets a role now that I just left Serene Village.

>>26550054
Yes. He has a very prominent presence in the story
He is your parent after all. Saved you and brought you in.

>>26550054
>let's kid and their friend go into dangerous dungeons alone
>leaves for days without anyone to watch the kid
>doesn't punish the kid for going against orders
Nuzleaf was a mistake.

Joking aside he's pretty great.

What's a good partner for Froakie?

>>26550137
Maybe he got an inkling that the MC was a bit older than he/she looked

>>26550137
>leaves for days without anyone to watch the kid
What did he even do on those excursions? I've beaten the game and still have no idea.

>>26550345
He went out

>>26550345
Maybe he needed to travel a lot for work.

>>26550218
A grass type or Pikachu

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i need some help
i dont know whether to replay sky or super
i love each game for different reasons
i havent seen much definitive, what is the better game?

>>26550616
There is nothing definitive; it depends on what you want out of the game.

What are you replaying it for? Just to go through it again? Super might be better because you don't have to worry about regrinding IQ. I'd replay Sky if I wanted to do something like custom starters and (for me personally) to play the post-game again.

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>>26550650
well, i don't like the starters in smd (but i do like the sky ones like eevee or skitty), but you're right, IQ is a shit. however, i dislike doing smd's non random missions, especially more than once.

>>26550676
I'd say go with Sky then. Despite IQ, I personally think it's more important to play as the Pokémon you like. I know one of the things stopping me from chasing down a cheap copy of Gates is that I only like Snivy from the list of starters.

>>26550719
how does eevee (hero) and turtwig sound?

>>26550729
I've never used that combination (or Eevee for that matter), but Turtwig is solid.

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>quicksave in Wish Cave on the 3DS VC cia of Red Rescue Team
>the save file is corrupted

>>26550729
>>26550766
Eevee's quite good. Adaptability makes your STABs fucking hurt and Flail doesn't wait until you're about to die to become useful.
Unfortunately, it doesn't get many ranged moves unless you want to evolve.

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>>26554569
thas a good doggo

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>>26555170
Better doggo than Vulpix

imo

>>26557662
what's going on here?

>>26557704
Pitfall trap.

>>26557704
Looks like Pikachu has Trap Seer, while Wooper has no IQ and just walks into the trap.

>>26557902
>not buffing wooper p

shameful

>adventure squad translation never

Is it just me or do the attacks seem to miss more often than in the previous games? In super mystery dungeon

>>26562585
Your accuracy is affected by you and your enemy's Speed, so if you're a little underleveled (which it's quite easy to be in Super) you can expect to miss more often.

>>26562671
Oh that's why. Thanks!

Alright faggots I just started this game. How important is the character you pick? I think I remember hearing something about the dialogue being different, and some of them aren't as good or something

>>26564447
Nah the dialogue stays the same

>>26564447
Dialogue is no different. Some do not perform as good as the others in certain situations, but to me it's more important to play as Pokémon you like and not worry about that.

>>26564447
The character you pick isn't that important. Certain dungeons might be harder due to type matchups, but unless you're retarded, you can finish the game with anyone.
The dialog doesn't change.

>>26564544
>>26564591
>>26564645
Not sure where I read that about the dialogue or what game it was for then, thanks.

>>26564683
It would be nice if dialogue was actually affected by personality though, I wonder why that's not a thing.

>tfw news might kill the thread

>>26564744
What do you mean? Are you referring to the personality quiz choices affecting your MC's dialog?
If they considered it at all, they probably came to the conclusion that it was either too much effort, or wouldn't make that much of a difference and wasn't worth spending time on.

>>26565374
>Implying it hasn't already

>Solgaleo
>“the beast that devours the sun"
Could Solgaleo be a villain in the next PMD, doing the good guy/villain switcheroo with Lunala?

>>26566514
>Sol's pretty much trustworthy and loyal
>Lunala's mysterious and that unknown about her makes people suspect her
>It turns out that Sol was the villain all along and Lunala's just bad with people, resulting in why people don't know a lot about her

>>26565527
Yeah, but it could make a significant difference if they wanted.

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>>26566514
>it's revealed that the sun itself is another ball of BitterMatter and Solgaleo was just trying to do the right thing
>the sun is the final boss instead because lolnolegendaries

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>>26566946
>There will never be an actual Legendary villain ever again
Fucking Yveltal is the embodiment and personification of Death and he's not even the final boss

>>26567012
Yveltal was way too obvious though. All things considered, I liked where they were going with Dark Matter initially before they started the whole negativity shit. It was already done in Gates, and at least there, it fit the theme of the story.

What if the main villain was another human-turned-pokemon?

>>26567219
True, Yveltal would be extremely obvious
>What is the main villain was another human-turned-pokemon?
That fight better be long and drawn out
And their Pokemon is a mirror of yours
And due to that throughout the story you're accused of crimed you've never committed
And the final battle is just you against them
And if your Starter can Mega Evolve them Mega Evolve halfway through the fight and defeats you while boasting about something something plot point end of the world he's won you've lost
Then before the final blow is struck the partner takes the hit
You scramble to them, asking why would they take the hit for you
And they tell you it's because you would've done the exact same for them and they die (They just pass out but the PC thinks they die)
And then you mega evolve because something something it triggers on emotions and you have a long and drawn out fight with Nega-PC

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>>26567219
Whoever or whatever it is, though, I'd like them to have some crazy unique moves like Dark Matter. Best final boss fight gameplay-wise.

>>26567012
>revealed immediately after their reveal that they're just a puppet
>demoted to penultimate boss status at the end of some jungle
Being Yveltal is truly suffering. But still not as suffering as Goomy.

Thinking about it, the twist that there was something else behind the obvious villain was probably the best way Yveltal could've been handled. Would've been a lot cooler if it hadn't been revealed right away though. Or, you know, if Dark Matter hadn't been pure edge.

>>26567865
>if Dark Matter hadn't been pure edge.
I actually think it should have been edgier in many ways

Dark Matter was actually pretty intimidating with the whole voidlands, petrification and possession shtick. I think they should have just doubled down on that and make it some kind of planet-eater entity that's solely designed to be scary instead of making it a negativity entity.

>>26568042
>I think they should have just doubled down on that and make it some kind of planet-eater entity that's solely designed to be scary instead of making it a negativity entity.
No, Anon. You're not allowed to have Unicron

>>26568042
Sorry, I should've specified the "pure edge" as the negativity aspect. Stoning innocent brothers, sisters, and whales are A-OK with me. I agree with the lack of edginess, and think that the Voidlands weren't threatening enough.

>>26568556
What exactly happened to the pokemon eaten by the void shadows? They just seemed to be kind of no-clipped into the ground. Could have done a kid-friendly The Thing sort of vibe with the shadows if they wanted to make things paranoia central.

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How can exploration teams even compete?

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>the next md game is 2-3 years away

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>>26576597
>pattern gets broken
>mfw next game releases in November

>>26576659
Hey now i want a new game as much as anyone maybe more but a rush job isn't what we want.

>>26576711
I know ;~;

Truly we are The Suffering. Where are all the other Pokémon spinoffs? What did we get this generation, Rumble and that's it? I need more ways to play Pokémon without giving money to GF.

>>26576759
where is pokepark 3
also i think they get some money regardless because they own part of the rights on pokemon

>>26577330
Even then, I feel better knowing that they're not getting my money for their games.

When are we gonna get the Pokémon musou we deserve?

>>26579451
>you will never see what cubone looks like without the skull helmet

>>26579491
What are you talking about? Don't you know it looks like a baby Kangaskhan? :^)

Why are escort missions the worst? Why are they so bad in every game? Why would they make the client so weak, but still make them go after enemies? Why can't we adjust their tactics to not fucking kill themselves?

Three (3!) times within five floors of Mt. Thunder this Nidoran has gone after a Beedrill or Nidorino because it thinks dealing 1 damage is worth shit. Thanks for eating up my Reviver Seeds you fucking idiot.

At least boss fights are over quick if you don't stand a chance. I get the fucking DESIGNATED MISSION FLOOR and it can be over. I spent ten minutes working my way up this fucking mountain and it was all for fucking nothing. Goodbye loot, goodbye money, goodbye happiness. Fuck escort missions, I'd rather shove an Expedition Gadget down my dickhole than do this shit.

>>26583381
You think that's bad? Try doing it with a Slaking escort in Purity Forest

>>26583521
Was the mission completed? Whoever can do that should be hired by Chunsoft because that's gotta be the worst mission possible. Is there a single thing worse than that? Are Zero Isle escorts as bad?

>>26583601
I shut the game off. Slaking only knows Slack Off and uses it every turn or two, for the entire dungeon. Even after it runs out of PP, it uses it, and Truant activates. Even an escort in Sinister Woods with this is harder than a Wish Cave run, simply because the entire challenge comes from staying on each floor 10x as long as normal.

>>26569303
I get that simply being stuck in the Voidlands for eternity is pretty spooky, but it was hard to feel spooked about anything when the story had just come up with an excuse to literally save you from death. Maybe that's just a fault on my part though.

>>26583381
If you think that's the worst, try recruiting everything in Rescue Team. The whole game turns into escort missions: the game.

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>>26545022
i bought two copies of sky

I like the starters too and everything but I really hope the next MD entry will bring back the odd one out picks like Cubone and Shinx.

>>26584518
I think most people here agree that more shitmons would do the roster well. I have a ton of combinations I want to try that include the main starters, but there would be no downside to making Pancham and Mareep MC's.

>>26584518
wooper starter when?

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>>26584586
7 years ago :^)

>>26584636
Why was this the last time they did this?

>>26584653
In Gates they just didn't have a lot of mons modeled in general so they made the options super limited because they still needed mons to be NPCs and populate dungeons

In Super I guess they decided with 6 gens of starters plus obligatory Pikachu and Riolu the starter roster was big enough

>>26584915
Starters+pika and riolu isn't as fun though. Maybe I don't want to run Grass/Fire every single fucking game.

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>Kecleon can die indirectly while tending the shop
>taking the items without witnesses still alerts the Kec Squad
for what purpose

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>>26585746
they're watching

>>26585746
CAN'T REK THE KEK

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>>26585761
Spooky.

>>26585746
With that much HP there's no way you can't just 1shot the Kecleons with your normal attack, unless you only buffed hp for some reason

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>>26586267
>implying that fighting them's the problem

>>26586438
>Kecleon used Screech!

>>26586461
>aim at Kecleon and press A
>proceed to move to the stairs, moving so that I always get the first hit
Not too hard.

Why does Screech lower Defense by so many stages compared to the mainline games though

>>26586582
It doesn't use stat stages, it just cuts your Defense by 75%.

>>26586582
Screech can only drop Defense twice i think, so i think it's a whopping -5 defense out of -10. -5 is 25% of your Defense, -10 is a whopping 3% of your defense, you may as well have no defense stat at that point.

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>>26586602
>>26586611
Alright, with a little more research I get it now. Thanks. Have... a Hoppip in return or something.

Is there a way to delete Meowth Theater videos (downloaded ones)?

>>26589480
Seems like you can only overwrite them by downloading another film.

>>26542773

Well the stuff they say about their relationship, or rather, prevent Flareon from saying about their relationship in Super was pretty implicit to be honest.

>>26545022

Only played EoT and SMD, was Piplup + vulpix in EoT, and Turtwig + Pikachu in Super

>>26590647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfrA3X_Qcwg

>"there's a commotion in the square, maybe we should check it out"
>go on missions of three days
>go to the square
>everyone is still there
>discussing the same thing
Don't these people have better things to do, like sell me stuff and hold my items?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j9_sopnjMY

>>26591755
You do realize these thread are always visited by the same people right? Everybody has already seen your post

>>26588926
Turtwig the wandered

>>26589680
What about deleting it through the 3DS settings or SD card?

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>>26545022
Still a little upset that Eevee wasn't an available starter in PSMD.

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>>26592226
Oh yeah, and finding a TM for Focus Punch in EoS was pretty great. Especially since Riolu gets No-Charger.
>mfw two-shot Primal Dialga before it could use Roar of TIme

>>26592445
o-one punch mon, is that you?
>>26592226
looks odd....just something about those choices... just a little off putting

>>26592445
And also gets an item that is basically Scrappy for free, allowing it to Focus Punch ghosts

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>tfw you one shot a boss

Has anybody ever had a favorite pokemon of theirs influenced by PMD?

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>>26595888
Pretty much every Pokémon that has been an NPC got bumped up on my list of favorites. Also, the Pokémon I pick as my partner on my first playthrough. Super is pretty much the only reason I like Fennekin's line.

>>26595974
The MD series made me take a second look at Drifloon's line, Emolga, Espurr, and Chespin

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>Uproar Forest
>floor 6
>spawn inside monster house
>like 4 Seedot, nothing compared to my Ember
>like 500 Poké on the ground
"Nice, easy money!"
>floor 8
>spawn inside a monster house again
>five Mankey
>three Seedot
>two Nuzleaf
>back to back with partner against the world
Boy am I glad they were all doing 1 damage outside of Earthquake or I'd have been fucked.

>>26596013
I always thought Drifloon was cute, but I did not expect it to be such a god. The games do a good job at bringing Pokémon that aren't Lucario or Pikachu into the spotlight (kinda funny since those are the only non-trio starters in Super).

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Mayday mayday! Bluestreak to homebase! Requesting backup! Down in story mode at Revelation mountain! We are low on supplies on everything, requeting oran berries or reviver seeds! Over. Khhh

>got my ass handed to me by Wigglytuff's guild 5 times in a row
>never even got 1 game over until now

Goddamn

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>During the true last fight
>Pikachu reminds Eevee of her true nature
>Of her wonderful time with both Pikachu and Absol
>Eevee breaks free from the corruption finally
>But she has split with Espanon, who is still ready to fight
>During this fight, Eevee evolves once more, but this time into Sylveon
>She proceeds to wipe the floor with Espanon
>With a well placed Pixilate Hyper Beam, she completely destroys Espanon, leaving behind no remains
>And lives out the rest of her days as a Sylveon
>And now it truly ends
>It can all be forgotten
>Anons can rejoice that this is truly the last time they'll ever hear anything about Espanon, ever again
>The stories finally truly over, now the meme can die peacefully
>Are you people happy now? Because I sure am

It's over, can I go home now?

How would Cubone+Bulbasaur work in RT?

>>26597353
Articuno bait/10

>>26595888
Magneton in Explorers of Time. I was a Torchic and my parter was a Turtwig. Magneton and Mesprit were our go to bros.

>>26597353
Bulbasaur is great, and can carry almost everyone.

Cubone is fun, Bone Clubbing things to death never gets old.

Articuno might be tough, but not insurmountable. Just remember to keep an eye out for valuable TMs on Cubone, maybe even Wondermail gen in an Ice Beam, Flamethrower, or Thunderbolt. I Think Cubone learns all of those.

I'm emulating explorers of sky right now.
help me choose my starters.

>>26597814
Phanpy and Munchlax

>>26597814
your two favorites via save editor

>>26596652
Yes yes let me get right on that
>This is not a QR code for this game
Well fuck.
Hopefully some American can get you soon.

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>>26596984
ok

How do you get the sun/lunar ribbons in sky?

>>26598053
I got mine from a bulletin board request that happened to have it as a reward.

>>26598053
Pretty sure Sun is from Golden Chambers

>>26597893
I can't think of anything to partner up with sneasel.

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>>26596652
Idk if anyone else got you yet, but here you go

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>>26506691
ummm...

>>26599326
shit not again, give me a bit

>>26599326
>>26599398
I tried downloading it again and it seems to work, you mean Blue/Sky/Emu right?

>>26599413
American version
English: https://mega.nz/#!hlNQXRrY!tIKxQUErgQxXKOQmp97m_ttPYv_idEOH6BVzYsahz7U (Password: Traiver)

>>26599422
Oh, you mean the PSMD .cia. I don't have a copy on hand since I haven't hacked my 3ds, all I have is the "Exploration Pack. I can't do anything about that file, hopefully whoever put it in there has it on hand still.

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>>26595888
He is the messiah

>>26599422
Oh, right. I'll see if I can get another download link there. In the meanwhile, you could use http://3ds.titlekeys.com

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>tfw never satisfied with the Pokémon I'm playing as
There are too many good combos, I can't stick to just one. Liking so many Pokémon is suffering.

>Sky Tower
>Aerodactyl coming up a tunnel
>three Silver Spikes later it's still alive
>move misses
>Aerodactyl used Confuse Ray
>Aerodactyl used Wing Attack
>almost kills me
>have to use an Oran Berry because I can't switch places with my partner since I'm confused
>only brought two
>die
>Reviver Seed revives me
>the loop continues until I wipe
Th-thanks Chunsoft, it's not like I wanted to beat the game or anything...

>>26603003
GIT
GUD

>>26603003
use attract to git gud

>>26603046
I've never beaten RT without Attract. Am I a shitter?

>>26603176
yes
as a kid, I've actually been able to beat it
Mudkip OP

FUCK YOU SHUPPET

THE STARS (AND POKéMON) WERE ALIGNED JUST FOR YOU TO USE KNOCK OFF AND SEND MY SPECIAL BAND INTO THE ABYSS.

AND THEN YOU SPITE MY EMBER TO TOP IT OFF

AND NOW A MONSTER HOUSE IN THE ROOM WITH THE STAIRS

>Altaria used Sing

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

>>26603211
What Pokémon are you using?

>>26603231
Charmander and Mudkip

>>26603239
then what the hell is your problem? Literally the best two choices you could get

>>26603250
They're only good when I can actually fucking use them. Getting put to sleep or confused tends to limit my options. I'm just documenting my series of unfortunate events.

>>26603264
USE
ATTRACT

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>>26603286

>>26603338
you don't need it anon
don't let it entice you

>>26603338
Well, Charmander learns Smokescreen anyway, and it does kinda the same.

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>>26603046
>used Pika main in Super with Chespin partner
>slutting my way past everything with attract and sweet kiss while Ches mops up

good times

>>26603338
Are you still having problems? I wanna hear more about your pain

>>26603611
No, I literally just beat it. It's all good now. :^)

>>26603650
What are you gonna do now?

>>26603745
Go back to my Cubone/Pikachu playthrough because I'm already tired of these Pokémon.

>>26603559
>Still no Eevee Starter
How can you even like this game?
I just want to be a Sylveon

>all left to do in RT is to recruit every 'mon
THE FUN BEGINS

>>26604477
Have fun! Check out that guide in the OP.

Also, new thread incoming, sit tight and I'll make it.

new thread

>>26604673
>>26604673
>>26604673