/heg/ - Hacking and Essentials General

Recommendations:
Most of you know the complete ones, like Glazed, Light Platinum, Flora Sky etc.

Kanto Black is worth playing if you want to replay Kanto. Just has Gen V Pokemon, updated mechanics, and you don't need cut.

Incomplete Hacks:
Obsidian Black/Pewter White (6 Gyms)
Gaia (6 Gyms)
Eclipse (4 Gyms)

Hacks that are only just getting started but worth keeping an eye on:
Firered Rocket Edition
Gary's Mod
Dark Crystal
Pokemon Heiwa
Pokemon LIFE

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Continuing from last thread:

>>26502650
FAR easier
sprites are two frames for the back and front in Pt/HGSS

>>26502581
You import one, say the front sprite parts, then toggle on "sync". After that, you can import the other 3 sprites as long as "sync" is toggled on. What "sync" does is take the palette of the first image and point every pixel of the next 3 to the correct color.

Each pokemon has 20 files that are allocated to them indivually. This includes things like gender differences and shiny palettes. In order to replace a sprite, you must edit and replace al 20.
If you want to add an evolution like noivern, find the dex number of the pokemon you want to edit over, multiply by 20, and add one. This is the first file in the uncompressed folder corresponding to that pokemon. Do the same with the pokemon whose sprites you want to use, copy into a new folder, and rename them as the files you want to replace in order. After making sure that you have the file named correctly, replace the old ones with these.

If you want to add a shiny palette, you must recolor the first sprite you imported. I also suggest using a hue shifter to make sure the colors were uniformly changed. To import, toggle on "Shiny" and toggle off "Sync", importing the image over the currently distorted original. It should be the last step you do

Working on the regional Pokedex for my hack. What would be a reasonable number of Pokemon for a fairly large Region with the usual 8 gyms, but a lot of other towns and side areas?

>>26502872
I'd say somewhere in the region of 300, at most. 250 is always a good number though. Don't want to make it too big.

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>>26502833
>FAR easier
>sprites are two frames for the back and front in Pt/HGSS
I'll look into doing that then. Thanks.

>You import one, say the front sprite parts, then toggle on "sync". After that, you can import the other 3 sprites as long as "sync" is toggled on. What "sync" does is take the palette of the first image and point every pixel of the next 3 to the correct color.
Alright, I did that, here's what it looks like.

>>26502872
I think somewhere around 200 is a good amount.

>>26502887
Those lines in the front sprite's wing means the color isn't there.
Try using that as the palette base because they tend to have more colors anyway.

Also, you need to erase the woobat from behind noibat and fully replace the other wing frames, because DS games only allow 16 colors in this format.

>>26502919
Bloody hell. Maybe another time.
Is Heart Gold the same concept for extracting and editing?

>>26502991
Lel, now you see why there are no completed sprite hacks. We need a program like Console Tool that can develop its own animations export them as .namr files

There's an easier tool but havent used it since like 2009, so give me a minute to check.

>>26503017
All makes sense now. I found this which mentions the locations but not what tool to use.
http://www.pokecommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-194248.html

>>26502991
>>26503017

Found it!
This is similar, but miles easier:
forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/47508-tutorial-hgss-insert-custom-pokemon-sprites-into-hgss-better-than-unlzapse/

>>26503032
It's the same as 5, a/0/0/4

Finished reconstructing the mega sound effect using a composite of in-game sfx and a promo video.

Also developed a pretty solid preset in Audacity for the distortion on most of the Mega Form's cries.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aJoFNyjbEO

NEVER EVER

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>>26503047
Going smoothly so far. I'm editing kabuto with noibat, I made the basic change but I get an error: Png has to be 8bpp indexed.
I'm using paint.net and I am selecting 8bit, not sure how to make it indexed though. Doing some googling now.

>>26503176
How does one change the in game name? I tried editing the flavour text in ppre but it keeps reverting back.

Probably going to sleep in a few minutes. Thanks for the help, Max.

>>26503176
Use irfanview to decrease color depth

is there any vanilla hack of firered with fairy type added? i can't find any stuff on pokecommunity other than real hacks (other regions, other mons etc)

>>26503176
>Replacing existing pokemon

You're the worst kind of romhacker.

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>>26503588
Thanks, I didn't get an error this time but now the image looks like a randbow of pixels.

>>26503654
It's for personal use and I'm hardly a romhacker. Anyway, isn't there a limit that forces people to replace some pokemon?

>>26503654
Replacing shitmons like Delibird is fine by me

>>26503478
I believe the species text is a file inside of a narc at a/0/0/2 or 3
PPTXT should be the right tool to use.
No problem. Got a little nostagic.

Using essentials, how do I specify which form I want when adding Pokémon with multiple forms, i.e. Shellos east/west, Basculin red/blue, to the list of possible encounters?

Under the script Pokémon_multipleforms you will find this:
(line 477)
MultipleForms.register(:SHELLOS,{
"getFormOnCreation"=>proc{|pokemon|
maps=[2,5,39,41,44,69] # Map IDs for second form
if $game_map && maps.include?($game_map.map_id)
next 1
else
next 0
end
}
})

MultipleForms.copy(:SHELLOS,:GASTRODON)

Add your map id to the MAPS array.

>>26503654
If it's impossible to expand the amount I don't see what's wrong, I mean you aren't going to include all 721 in your hack, and if you attempted it your hack would be a shitty clusterfuck with 20 Pokémon on every route and in every cave.

>>26504693
Yup, that did the trick. Thanks man!

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>>26502714
So I'm still trying to get that Unaware ability clone working, no dice. I posted my code in the previous thread but I don't think anyone noticed.

Anyone think they can tell me why the ability isn't working? In testing, stat boosts (Attack, Defense, etc) are still being counted.

>>26505025
How is it acting out? is it not compiling or is it not performing as expected in-game?

>>26505025

You write an error after # Chip Aware there's the unaware part, add an || after the :UNAWARE)||

Instead of if attacker.hasMoldBreaker || !opponet.hasWorking ability, just add it by adding the ||!opponet.hasWorkingAbility(:HANDOFFATE) after the unaware.

Likewisei in AI write :UNAWARE) || opponet.blablablabla

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Essentials here. What do you guys think about repainting the tiles of FRLG in order to make them 32 by 32? Is it a bad idea. Pic is what i've done for now.

>>26505233
It's compiling, just not functioning properly.

>>26505341
Sorry, thank you for your help, but I'm afraid I'm still not getting it. Do you think you could edit the code if I paste it in the thread?

>>26506000

Pastebin it and I'll fix it.

>>26506000
I have to do more research on the ability system first then.

>>26506251
Here you go
http://pastebin.com/724eC4Ef

Thanks a bunch.

>>26506268
All good, thanks anyway mate.

>>26506294
http://pastebin.com/jkp1i7kg

This should work - you were doing some stuff before, in which UNAWARE was set to do nothing

>>26507017
I tested it out, but it didn't seem to work. I'll double check and make sure I input everything correctly as it is in your pastebin, but otherwise I'm stumped.

>>26507143
I actually just tested to see if Unaware was working, and it didn't seem to be functioning either. Is it entirely possible that Unaware just doesn't function in the latest version of Essentials?

I guess this is related
https://discord.gg/timbersaw-gigas-cockatrice
Discord chat for a fangame. There's a demo out and they're only posting the link there.

>>26502894
>>26502872

200-230 like this guy said. 200 is a good number if you're not counting legendaries.

>>26502714
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>>26507328
quality expired link my man.

>>26505525
32x32 just looks weird for pokemon. I don't know why it just doesn't feel right.

Maybe if you double the res of everything else as well it could work, but it still wont feel right.

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Whatever ever happened to this?

>>26505525
Making it higher res means the tiling is more obvious, so you can't really do straight pixel-overs.

So I'm trying to make a move that confuses the target and the user, on top of doing recoil damage to the user. Anyone know how to do that?

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Sometimes I'm super annoyed by 8-bit limitation. I finally got to looking at attempting to cover a song an anon wanted me to do, and the main melody is easy to understand and the bassline seems like it could be ported easily but then everything else in the song is a huge clusterfuck of moving parts and no single part would fill the song's background enough to hide there only being three total sound channels plus percussion.

I know I had that issue slightly with Ever Grande, with the bells being absent in the first part of the song and an anon noticing that absence, but I feel the song is overall strong despite that, with the rest of the song feeling "full." Here, I don't know what course of action would give the illusion of a big series of moving parts, because there's nothing dominant in the song outside the main melody and to a small extent the bassline.

I'll try to give some WIP when I'm far enough to see if I can salvage it, and I'm really just rambling for the sake of bumping the thread, but I sometimes question my love of 8-bit audio when I come across situations like this. Then again you could argue that a good composition overcoming the limitations of 8-bit audio is part of the appeal, but then again the annoyance of those limitations is exactly why the NES has like half a dozen audio expansion chips, I don't fucking know. Bump.

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Not sure why this is producing a rainbow.

>>26502714
God damn that's a tasty looking route.

>>26511936
I've been doing more research and I think it has something to do with the palette. The transparent colour should be first right? For my images they're not and I'm not sure why.

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>>26512408
How do I swap these without messing the image up? I have a feeling that this is the problem.

Pyrite or Complex Crystal?

Pyrite seems to have a lot of extra bells and whistles but I want to know if they are actually well made.

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This feels like a guessing game. What's the maximum number of colours for HG? Do I have to change the palette some how?

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>>26513067
Sweet, it works! Now I just need help with the colour and I'll be set to put some of my newer favourites into older games.

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>>26513121
So you've got to edit them all, not one by one. I've fucked this rom up with all the test, time to begin the real thing.

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>>26513186
Celebrated too soon.

>>26513201
Looks like Hitgirl.

>>26513234
Better than what I had before at least.

I think I know what fucks things up. For Bulbasaur, items 6-9 are images and then 10 and 11 are palettes. If I change 10 to one of the images, it gets messed up, if I change 11 to the image, ivysaur gets messed up as well as bulbasaur. Not sure how this works. Anyone around?!

>>26513265
Alright, update. Item 10 is the main culprit here. It controls the colour and switches things around for some reason.

>>26512318
thank you

>>26502787
The 4chan reference in LIFE was cringey as fuck

How's Pokemon Sage doing? How far is it from completition?

>>26514425
How much of it is completed?

>>26514469
Very far.

>>26503652
look at "sideshow showcase" in the romhackign section

Are there any hacks with at least 8 gyms completed and at least some gen 6 mons?

>>26514425
To be honest, I must have completely missed it.

Don't quit on me, thread.

So it's been on my mind since i have saw this thread and i have been wondering, is it possible to implement Mega-evoloutions in Black and white? Kazowar has been able to implement Kyurem-W and Kyurem-B in black and white in this thread: https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?21101-Adding-Formes-to-Black-and-White

>>26509037
/vr/ is always dead, don't expect too much from them. That, and the fact spriting in Gen II is so FUCKING CONFUSING that I don't blame them.

>>26514576
there's nothing like what i want in there

>>26514389
Is your hack ready? Can we play it?

>>26518079
Nah, I made that map like a year ago for fun, not working on a game at the moment
also It was a map made in Essentials

>>26517702
>spriting in Gen II is so FUCKING CONFUSING

What exactly is confusing about it?

>>26509037
The guy making it lost all his computer data. He's currently redoing it from scratch since he at least has the sprites, and has moved from Gold to Crystal as a base.

Has anyone ever made a hack where the only change was a complete overhaul of the movelist?

As in, completely new moves (and effects)?

>>26502714
hey boys i'm working on my first romhack

is there a tool to create new ability effects? or is that only doable through hex editing?

>>26519525
A S S E M B L Y

>>26519612
fug

this is going to be a lot more work than i thought

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bump

>>26513201
If you need help with putting Pokemon into HGSS, I know of an unfinished/abandoned hack that someone made before gen 6 that put all 5th gen Pokemon into HGSS. It was called UnovaHGSS. Perhaps that guy can help you out if he's still available.

>>26521994
>>26503047
forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/47508-tutorial-hgss-insert-custom-pokemon-sprites-into-hgss-better-than-unlzapse/

You can see my attempts at getting Noibat into the HG earlier in this thread. My only problem was the colouring.

>>26522050
>>26521994
God, it's too early for me, I misread that. Yes, any help is appreciated!
Right now I'm just using a HG hack as a base since it does what I need already, just need the pokemon that I want.

>>26522075
If it's just for personal use, I'm not sure how far you want to go with it, but I know he also figured out how to change the overworlds. It was the first time I had ever seen the overworlds edited for Pokemon in HGSS. The only other time was with the Light Platinum remake, but that was a few years after this first appeared. I wish the guy finished the hack, but I know how that shit goes. Real life gets in the way, more important things take priority, and stuff like this just falls through. I really hope people hack HGSS more in the future, it's my favorite game and there aren't many hacks outside of slight script changes.

>>26522111
I mainly just want to add in 4 or so mons and that's it, it's definitely doable to get all the battle sprites in game in an hour or two. There's a tutorial on YT that explains how to change the overworld sprites, I'm not up to that yet but I'm looking forward to having Tyrunt walking with me.

>>26522030
And Gen 1

>>26522030
>The only generation games that can add more Pokemon are the 3rd generation games

Regular Gen 1 has room for 103 Pokémon if you move the ghost and fossil sprites elsewhere, and recently we've cracked that barrier entirely and you can add as many Pokémon as you want. https://hax.iimarck.us/topic/6738/

Gen 2 should hopefully get the same treatment in the future.

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>>26513201
5mins in paint. It's going to be my grass starters mid evo when I get this working.

>>26512528
use gimp

>>26519525
asm my dude

>>26502714
Looking to get started on a more medieval themed pokemon game, i saw the mediafire link for tielset but does it have custom tiles with more medieval themed houses?

>>26523955
Thanks. I'm in the palette and all the options are greyed out.

>>26524304
>>26523955
Alright, I used offset and now the background is first. How do I assign it to the image and save it together?

>>26502787
Damn Rocket Edition was far better than I expected it to be. Good shout.

>>26524452
Fuck that was annoying. You've got to fix the palette, de-index and then select the palette when you index it.

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So close but I'm getting sick of trial and error. Surely someone here has replaced sprites in HG and knows the correct method.

>>26524674
How many colours do you have in that sprite? Max is 15 plus background, it looks like you might have too many. If not, I have no idea what's wrong.

>>26524744
20 fucking 1. Why would someone upload spites for HG that are over the limit?
Any way to fix this without re-making the sprite?

>>26524750
>Why would someone upload spites for HG that are over the limit?
Wait, that's my fault, I should've tested with an untouched sprite.

>>26524750
Fuck if I know, maybe it was just supposed to be HGSS style. I think gimp has an option to reduce colour depth somewhere, it should be able to remove the excess shades of black and red in the sprite. You could also try to remove them by hand, but I wouldn't recommend that.

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>>26524765
I removed them by hand, it was the greens, not sure how I missed that.

Anyway!!!!

>>26524765
New problem. My back sprite doesn't use all the colours and that's causing the same problem as having more than 15 colours did. Any ideas?

>>26524969
Figured out a shitty way to do it. I'm using 3 programs because I can't figure out how to do it in 1. First, paint.net cleans everything up. Second, gimp to make both palettes the same. Third, photoshop to make them indexed. Gimps indexed doesn't seem to work properly.
So far I've inserted the phantump, phantrunk(good name?) and trevenant on top of the bellsprout line.

>>26502714
The Fire red omega link on the pastebin is a bad gateway, anyone got another version?

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Is anyone nearly completed?

>>26525356
Tyrunt and Noibat line added. Noibat for hoothoot line and Tyrunt for jew line.
I think I might add 1 more, fennekin.

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Rate my attempts of a comfy long route.

The bridge looks a bit shitty, I need a better tile for it.

>>26526801
It's hard to rate out of context, but overall it's pretty decent. You'd definitely want a sign at the south end telling the player which path goes where, or connect the paths at the north end with a Cut tree or something to make going from east to west and back less cumbersome.

>>26526801
I prefer comfy routes to be more compact, but I like what you have here.

>>26526801
cool map, agree with you on the bridge tiles though

bumpo

>>26502714
>house overlaps tree
>side entrance to a cave
DELETE THIS

>>26526379
Yes, but my game's not about a 10 year old self-insert getting badges and it's made in Essentials so there's a 99.99% chance it'll get shat on.

Finally implementing pokébodies.
Pokébodies are inate species-specific secondary abilities that perform additional effects to their other ability.
So far I have:
Levitate- Immunity to most ground type moves
Photosynthesis- Restores 1/16th health in strong sunlight

I'm also thinking of:
Flame Body/Static/Poisonous- Additional 10% chance to inflict their respective status

Ice Body- Photosynthesis clone

Drought/Drizzle/Desolate Land/Primordial Sea- same as now, but persist as long as user is on the field. Once 5-8 turns is up, weather clears when user leaves.

Rock Head/Sturdy/-ditto

What other pokébodies should I include?

>>26529290
romhackers btfo

>>26530640
But the guy who made that map said in this thread they did it in Essentials.

>>26526379
i'm close 2bh

>>26530657
Exactly. "Btfo" because they don't do transparent layers and sideways caves while Essentials does.

>>26530687
There's nothing stopping you from making a sideways cave entrance. I've seen people do it in hacks. The reason you don't do it is because it's ugly as fuck. And what do layers have to do with anything?

>it's another ROM hacks vs essentials episode

There is literally nothing wrong with using either of them.

Hey, I know I should probably lurk more, but im just going to throw it there.
What im wanting to make is a game with an original map and story using the Gen 5 dex.
Where should I start?

>>26531279
Gen 3 has Pokédex expansion and several premade ROM bases with all of those Pokémon. If you don't care about triple battles or any other special major features of Gen 5 that sounds like your best bet, since Gen 3 is the most commonly used base.

Hacking Gen 5 itself would require a ton of advanced knowledge because we have few tools for it and the ones that do exist are buggy.

There's also Essentials, an RPG Maker base for Pokémon fangames, but I heavily recommend not using it, it's poorly made, though others disagree and will probably urge you to use it so maybe take my opinion with a grain of salt.

>>26531471
This guy just shits on Essentials to troll the thread.

There's (almost) nothing you can do in the ROM that you can't in Essentials. You gain the benefit of not having to cram everything into obscure formats, obey byzantine restrictions, and not learn a low level language nobody but dedicated hardware/compiler people use anymore.

Essentials already has all the Gen 5 pokes and togglable settings from across the series.

>>26531695
>This guy just shits on Essentials to troll the thread.

I'm not trolling the thread, I'm shitting on Essentials because I think Essentials is shit. I even said some people will disagree with me.

>>26526801
Very square, make it seem more natural.

>>26531695
All the pros to essentials are big pros.

What it lacks is polish. You have to put that in yourself, and most people don't bother. rom hacks usually come with polish out of the box, but nothing gets finished.

The problem with rom hacks is there's so much misinformation because of the barrier to entry. If someone gave you the source code to pokemon ruby complete with tools you would probably have just as good a time with it as essentials. Maybe better.

Low level knowledge is valuable because everyone and their brother can write js. But your hobbies should be fun, not work. The issue is that the only difference for a lot of people is fud.

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>>26530842
Making your own game from scratch is more fun anyways.

>>26532018
The one true dev.

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>>26532018
>Farfetch'd

Not until now have I seen what it really means for someone to be my nigga.

>>26531875
Yeah, a ROM base will feel official as it basicly is. Adding on and maintaining that would be painful.

Is Thenewpoketext the only way to change names? I can't find a link to it that isn't down or dead, anyone got one? expirebox.com is safe and you can delete it immediately afterwards.

>>26534584
I should've mentioned that I've tried using PPTXT already with HG(a002) and it crashes when ever I select anything from the drop down menu.

I had an idea for a game that pokemon appear to live in the environments and eat other pokemon, vegeation, passively, and instead of weapons you use pokemon you catch in the overworld. you dont tell them what moves to use you just indicate parts of the environment to interract with, switch using l/r, A means interact offensively B means interact defensively. What the pokemon does depends on the context. If you're in the ocean riding a wailmer and you press B over an enemy your wailmer emits a warning pulse, but if you press A it might charge, or flee if it feels endangered by say a Sharpedo. The point is to emphasise exploration and discovery rather than battle. If you press A on ash-covered trees with charizard they will turn to glass and if you press A again he will smash them. Cool shit like that what do you guys think

Put Delphox into HG and I need a second ability. Any ideas?

>>26529346
Awesome! Tbh I like fangames most when they deviate from gfs formula

>>26530666
Keep us posted

>>26530367
Shit dude that's an awesome idea. Tbh about half the abilities can be replaced with poke bodies

>>26535660
Pickpocket obv

>>26535877
Not magic themed though.

>>26535660
Magic Guard, Synchronize, Inner Focus, Frisk, Anticipation.

>>26536032
>Magic Guard
Done

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Name, icon and overworld sprites are all that's left now. Going to look for some more tutorials now.

>>26536062
I tried DS text editor and changing the names of bank 817- bank 821, I save, re-open the narc(a027) and everything is reverted back to normal. Any ideas?

What's the hack with the bandanas and other accessories on pokemon? I can't remember the name.

>>26536299
When I decapitalised Platinum I used the text editor in SDSME, you should try that.

>>26536478
What part did you edit exactly? What narc am I supposed to re-insert?

what kind of features do you want in an xy hack besides harder difficulty?
super advanced stuff isn't possible yet.

i'm nearly done the trainers and wild pokemon, but want to add more.

>>26536653
More/new moves on level up.

>>26536576
Just followed this tutorial and it finally worked!
https://gbatemp.net/threads/thenewpoketext-tutorial-finished-for-epuls56.187596/

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>>26536872

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>>26536943
Felt like it was never going to happen.

Any good tutorials on changing overworld sprites? I found one on YT but it's silent and there's no explanations, sped up too.

I've had no luck with overworld and icons sprites for HGSS. The best I've found is editing npc sprites but I'm only interested in player sprites.
Any help guys?

>>26503076
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aJoFNyjbEO

You wouldn't happen to have that without the cry attached, would you? And also the audacity preset? Please tell me you wouldn't mind sharing?

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>>26537250
Finally opened an image in poketex, it was a bellsprout and I'm replacing it with phantump. I exported it with pokeTEX but I can't figure out how to import and replace. How do I do that?

>>26537367
>males name
Well, that's the second time I've seen my name in a game. What made you choose it, someone you know?

>>26537367
This is really nice!
Can you tell me a little about it?

>>26537429
It was out of pure coincidence, really.
I was looking at a list of baby names for something short.

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>>26537477
Pic related, this was quite a while ago.
Some things I said there are faulty information now, but the premise is still the same: Team Rocket is in control of (most) of the "post-apocalyptic" region.

>>26537478
Just what kind of hacker are you..?
Looks really cool btw.

>>26537514
>Just what kind of hacker are you..?
If you mean what kind of ROM I hack, it's Firered, and thank you!

>>26537512
Adding on to this, I've currently mapped out about 3/4th of the region so disregard the thing i said about maps in there.

>>26537477
Max! Please help me. How do I convert a png to a poke? I have tile molester and it just looks like a mess.

>>26537512
I really like the idea of this.
The post-apocalyptic desert is very Orre-esque. Maybe the player's goal outside of defeating team rocket could be restoring the area by completing side quests? Working to bring a more populated region with more Pokémon could open up a whole new set of challenges in the post game while also giving your game a happier ending.

>>26537534
I honestly don't remember.
I think there was a tool that did it for gen 4 overworlds back in the day, but it was really unstable. The overworlds were eventually converted into .btx files, however.

>>26537769
Maybe I can jog your memory because this is driving me up the wall. You use pokeTEX to open the a/0/8/1.nds file, then you find the pokemon you want to edit, save it as a .poke file. Use tile molester to open the file and then not sure. Does that help?
If not, do you know how to edit icons?

>>26537317
Yeah sure, I just forgot to post it.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1SFdse3NHHZ

For the reverb affect on Mega Evolution cries, drop the cry you want to edit into audacity, high light all of your audio, and go into "Effect" => "Reverb".

Here are your parameters:
>Room size
7
>Pre-Delay
10
>Reverberance
100
>Damping
33
>Tone Low
0
>Tone Hi
100
>Wet Gain
-6
>Dry Gain
-10
>Stereo Width
100

Feel free to tweak those. I'm still touching up some of the values.

>>26535855
You're right, but I want to combine a lot of the effects of similar abilities into one pokebody, e.g. an ability that hatches eggs faster, prevents freezing, and grants immunity to fire type moves.
A super ability that isn't over powered, but allows Magcargo to have a new ability in Solid Rock while having the effects of its old abilities, while also allowing Heatran, which has a 2nd 4x weakness to Sound in my game to remain solid in having its old ability whist acquiring Flame Body

>>26530367
All the abilities that just change form like stance change should be pokebodies.

>>26538018
Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what their abilities should be

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Rate my MC waifu

>>26502714
>all those narrow paths
compactfags are the worst

>>26531875
>You have to put that in yourself, and most people don't bother
Well that's not an issue with the actual game, more an issue with the people using it.

>>26502872
My personal range is anywhere between Johto and Unova.

256 to 300 is a perfect Pokedex

>>26504838
>TFW XY was this

>>26526801
This is good, but no interest in anything like signs or light posts or anything to break the sameness?

>>26502872
386 if you optimize it perfectly. Just stick with only 1 regional derp rodent/bug/birb, minimal legends (give them all dungeons similar to genwun), and fill the rest with nice mons. Should be able to get the vast majority of mons from every gen that way.

>>26504838
Expanding the dex has been done in rom hacks. 721 is easily possible to place in a game. The problem is the sound files for cries take up too much space to get the full 721 and a full region.

>>26502714
I never really go on /vp/, is this a consistent general?

I wrote down a bunch of ideas for a pokemon romhack in 2014 but was kind of intimidated by the lack of guides at the time and never did anything with them. Is it much better now? I kind of need a distraction to obsess about. Thanks.

>>26509037
Those sprites are beautiful, I've always loved gbc palettes though, so i might be biased.

What's the best gen 4 hack? I wanna play through again with something new. Maybe something like the Drayano hacks with more difficulty and game changes.

>>26532018
i need to know more about this game

has anyone got tiles with the feel of Platinum? Obviously the games are not strictly flat and 2D but something with that comfy vibe I can put together just as tiles.

>>26538863
>Expanding the dex has been done in rom hacks.

Not in all games. It's doable in Gen 3 and more recently Gen 1, but currently can't be done in Gen 2 (unless you count the two blank slots you can use), 4, 5, and I assume can't be done in 6.

>>26537833
I'm gonna try going step by step through this and figure this out.

>>26537833
>>26540137

Hey, just remembered Kazo did this tool years ago that made this super easy on me.

It basically reads the .btx files individually, skipping the conversion process.

Remember: 16 colors or less

Tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWTkbhQ_CzY

Forum:
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?9873-BTX-overworld-editor

>>26538040
Aside from the Pokelemon it looks 8/10. Did you use a base?

>>26537769
> Maybe the player's goal outside of defeating team rocket could be restoring the area by completing side quests?
Don't worry, I've got most of this planned out.

>>26526202
bump for need

>>26541372
That's cool,
Can't wait to see it play out

>>26539524
It's slow, sometimes it falls off.

Essentials has a lower barrier to entry and an easier time changing anything.

Romhacking, with a base of choice, will feel just like a normal game. You'll be able to play it on anything that runs an emulator too. Much steeper initial learning curve.

>>26535482
You're on the right track, but context actions usually make a game less fun. And they're more work for the developer.

What you want is for moves to do stuff with the properties of the environment. Like "rocks have 50 hp" as opposed to "charizard breaks rocks". These kinds of building blocks allow for gameplay the creator hadn't thought of.

I think a system like that could make battles more fun too. And it would let doubles/triples emerge naturally. Other pokemon just walk into the fray.

>>26538620
Well yeah. But it looks like all better tooling does is make hacks more ambitious, not more likely to get finished.

So im playing Crysal Kaizo, and I dont think the mons can learn moves naturally. Can they?

>>26543371
Every Pokémon gets their "competitive" moveset in like their first few levels, that way all opponents can have competitive teams, because you'd have to add a ton of data to give every single random trainer full customized movesets. Only major trainers have customized movesets, and everyone else just uses their last four level-up moves.

>FINALLY find miracle tool, has truck remover, edits the things you start with, brilliant
>Sign up for site, deal with bullshit
>Link doesn't work

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Dammit, can anyone download this intro editor? If so, how?
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=198705

>>26544378
A really easy way around the truck is to edit it to be completely black then put a level script that immediately warps you to your starting map of choice

>>26544378
>tool is from 2009
Try this instead: http://www.pokemonhackersonline.com/showthread.php?p=135865

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>>26544464
Wow, that's really neat! I'm...not sure how to do level scripts, though, could I just put a warp tile underneath the starting area? Actually, I'm not sure how to determine the square people will start in either.

>TFW romhacking feels impossible

>>26544488
Wow, looks really good. I guess there's no way to cut out the intro, I'll make it a black screen or something.

I haven't hacked Fire Red since about 2008. Has music hacking changed any, or is it still a pain in the ass?

On top of that: how does one start getting into ASM?

>>26544629
>Has music hacking changed any
Didn't sappy exist back then?

>>26544671
Yeah, I just wasn't sure if there was some new tool released since then.

>>26544686
Sappy is literally all you need tbeyeach

>>26544702
and mid2agb

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So, tools like this are useless if you're serious about ROMhacking, right? I feel like using things like it, the intro editor, etc. will mess up so much of the game down the line if I plan to do anything but edit the trades/intro.

>>26544736
Nah, I wouldn't call that useless, but I'd probably do it by hex
Literally nothing can go wrong if you do it by hex

>>26544786
Man, I wish there were tutorials for asm/hex/etc. All these fancy programming languages you need prior knowledge of computers for really make me wonder how like 12-year olds can make these hacks.

>>26544801
I can understand it's confusing at first
But hex isn't a language, you can open any file with a hex editor and edit its compiled code.
Asm on the other hand is its own language and yeah, shit be hard yo.

>12-year olds can make these hacks.
I doubt any kid of that age can do any advanced things at all, unless they started hacking when they were even younger, or even worse, were tutored.
Care to give an example?

>>26544836
I guess Snakewood, and all those cringy hacks on youtube from 2004-2007-ish. Even if they were low quality, it doesn't change the fact that even idiots like them at least grasped how to do basic things.

>>26544871
You can create a hack like snakewood with all the basic tools. I don't think anything in it can be considered 'advanced'.
And what's with that mindset, anon?
Surely, if that idiot as you say, can make a full "game", then you can do it as well?
Yes, learning all these things takes time, lots of time, but if you really want to make your own hack, you have to invest in it. It's a lot of work.
Remember: Everyone is a beginner at some point.

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>>26544930
Heh, I guess. I'm like this with everything I try, if I'm not immediately good at something, I'll try to force it done using what's intuitive, then I give up when it doesn't work. What tutorials did you use, anon? Also, could you look at my tools? What's bad and what's good? What should I add?

>>26545042
May I suggest:
Unnamed trainer editor by Jambo51
Nameless sprite editor 2.1 and NSE classic
And something you may want in the future: Nameless tilemap editor
oh and Hex workshop
If you cant find a free download of it, use HxD

>>26542722
Thank you, I was planning on a gen 3 romhack. Is gen 4 viable?

>>26545091
I'd suggest replacing Unnamed Trainer Editor with Hopeless Trainer Editor, it's newer, bug free and generally just better.

>>26545358
Stop shilling your editor anytime.
Never gotten any errors or bugs from UTE.

>>26545250
>Is gen 4 viable?

No. It's really unexplored, and there's currently only one Gen 4 hack currently being developed with a custom region (and said region is a remade GBA hack). You'd have to be both experienced and really dedicated to making a Gen 4 hack if you were going to go that route.

>>26546358
Okay then, gen 3 it is.

>>26540263
Thanks. I have tried that method but it seems to only work on npcs and not pokemon, when I try to select anything far down the list which I'm assuming are pokemon, the program crashes.
>Click the Open .btx button and select a btx file, if it a supported file (almost all the different trainer sprites) it will then be displayed.
Any other ideas?

>>26546534
Tried again, it doesn't crash:
>sorry, this file is unsupported at this time
>The program will now close. :(

>>26546602
I found something new that allows me to access the sprites. OverworldEditorDS, the problem is it's a pixel editor and I'd have to edit every pixel even though I already have the image ready to be imported in, with the correct palette too.

>>26546667
Even if I could do it, it's prone to crashing when dealing with pokemon sprites. Fucking hell, should've started with FireRed like everyone else.

Any decent completed hacks with only fakemon?
Seeing fakemon and real ones together is super jarring to me

>>26537973
>sound
Yess I fuckin love you

I didn't see anything like this in the pastebin: are there any gen 4 or later romhacks that are essentially just gen 1? I know there's FR and LG, but I just can't go back to the pre physical/special split. Can't do it, won't do it.

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>>26546683

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>>26547299
Is this in 3d? Pokemon essentials? TELLLLLL MEEEEEE-AH

>>26547341
I'm new to hacking and I'm not sure what you're asking. This is HG that I'm editing, it's the first route.

>>26505525
the tiling on the ground is super obvious

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Sagefag here. Since Sage Sunday was abandoned, I'll just post this here.

The blue square is a placeholder for a fountain.

>>26545431
Not even my program, UTE is clunky as fuck and occasionally writes 0xFFFF to places it shouldn't, which causes freezes. Not to mention it still uses that retarded ini format that requires you to make your own, instead of just reading the offets from the ROM. It was good when it was the only option, but not anymore.

>>26547376
Ivwas asking if you made this game from scratch using essentials or rpgmaker. I wasn't sure Essentials..(RPG MAKER??) allowed 3D maps like in the DS games.

>>26547506
Looks nice as fuck, not very Pokemon-y, though. Remind me which one Sage is again? The meme-packed one, or the earnest Essentials game?

>>26548213
I'm actually working on implementing psuedo 3D in Essentials using a mode 7 script.

>>26539699
i enjoyed bloody platinum a lot, but cant compare it top other hacks as its the only gen 4 hack i played.

>>26548213
Stop typing like an autistic child you fucking fag

>>26549194
essentials

>>26549897
trips confirm

>>26550012
Why did you delete that? The tutorial doesn't explain the things he's doing in tile molester, my way of converting palettes is a lot easier and quicker but I don't know what I'm doing with tile molester or how to properly paste my new image.

>>26549194
Might I ask, what's not pokemon-y about it?

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https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/humilau-city-gbc-8-bit-wip

Finally got that WIP up. The percussion is inaccurate, it's just filler to get a feel of what it would sound like upon completion (I always do percussion last).

Is this worth finishing? I feell really iffy about it, like it doesn't sound awful to me but, even with all the parts besides percussion being accurate, it doesn't feel like I captured the song's tone. See >>26511287 for my dumb late night ramble about the song.

So, I have a question about Gym Puzzles. I always get stuck on those because I don't know the limits of Essentials and I'm a dumbass who can't think of cool puzzles or gym layouts.
I am stuck on my Water Gym and I want to make it an underwater gym. Anyone experienced know how to get over this slump/limits of Essentials gym design?

Any music hackers here that know if the DS has a limit of how many Directsound instruments can be playing at once?
If yes, would porting music from DS games prove difficult due to the 6-Directsound limit for the GBA?

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So, what do you guys think of this?

Otelpor Route is meant to be visited a few times, so obviously there are quite a lot of different paths to take. It was my goal to make a route with branching paths, because they're some of my favorites in the games.

To explain a few gimmicks: the big cave entrances don't lead to caves as in dungeons. You just enter them and so you can't see your character anymore. You have to walk around to discover where you're supposed to go, and sometimes you'll get encounters with special Pokémon (as in, Pokémon you can't find on the route otherwise). In this case the three of them are straight paths so nothing crazy, but they're a way for me to add depth to the world even though it's only third gen.

The dirty path south of the map has itemballs buried in it. Sometimes though, the itemballs are actually a Pokémon, the usual Fungus/Voltorb stuff I guess.

Also, the elevated path on the left has a bunch of trainers so even though it appears empty, it isn't in-game.

Anyway, that's it and I'm kind of "proud" of it. It most likely could be better, but I think it's the best map I've done.

Music related is perfect for it I think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P52hAZV07kQ

Thoughts on the map, /heg/?

>>26557115
This route looks really nice.
I especially like your integration of gen 4 tiles

>>26557115
It that corsola in the water?

>>26554635
It's working so far. If you're following the actual limits something has to be cut and everyone likes something else.

If you had that little bit at 17 well then no one will complain but assholes.

Anyone here ever play 'Expert Emerald'?

It's a 386 hack that ups the difficulty.
I remember loving it, but it was 2013 when I last played it, so maybe it was actually shit and my memory is bad.

Didn't see it in the pastebin so I was wondering if it had a bad reputation here.

>>26559596
It's a very old hack that makes lots of completely retarded changes (Huge Power Scizor and 600 BST Swellow), and the level curve sucks, so it can be a bit of a grind fest. Over all it's pretty crude and there are probably better 386 hacks by now, but if you don't care about quality it's still pretty fun and fairly difficult.

>>26559956
Ah, it's starting to come back to me now.

I think I just liked how cheesy it was. I believe I even Nuzlocke'd it like a madman before getting blown the fuck out in one of the double battle gyms.

>>26554907
Bumping this question

>>26561090
It's up to how much you're willing to code.

I programed Surge's gym puzzle from scratch with custom functions.

Is there a FireRed hack which exchanges rat/bird pokemon for some gen 4 mons or a hack with all of gen 4 already in it? I remember reading someone cracked the code and can now add more than the 386 limit. If not, I'm fine with some rat/bird mons out.

>>26558332
Yes! I wanted a "great barrier reef" feel, and I also try to include more Pokémon in the overworld, so using Corsola was perfect for me.

>>26558303
Thank you. Which Gen 4 tile are you referring to?

I can't find Wischu's icon editor anywhere. Is it under a new name?

>>26563229
Yeah, it's bundled with his other tools under the name Advanced Series. The Pokecommunity download link is probably broken, but you should be able to find it elsewhere.

>>26563322
Isn't that for gba only though? I was reading about an nds version.

>>26557115
map looks awesome, what agme is ti for?

>>26563408
Thanks, it's for an Essential game I'm making that probably won't ever see the light of day.

>>26562938
the sides of mountains look gen 4 ish to me

Bye thread