>lion representing the sun >bat representing the moon Any

Zygarde = Earth

>>26342488
Gryphon

>>26342488
Overdesigned pieces of shit

>>26342524
You haven't even SEEN a modern FF game if you honestly think these guys are overdesigned.

>>26342488
Well I've seen people suggest a scorpion (recently there was a story of a scientist claiming to have found a giant scorpion-like alien on Mars) based on the Mars Rover (due to Solgaleo looking similar to an astronaut and Lunaala a satellite) and maybe giving it the representation of planets.

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>>26342639

>Legendary Scorpion based on a Mars Rover.

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Zygarde is involved m8

>>26342639
>(recently there was a story of a scientist claiming to have found a giant scorpion-like alien on Mars)
Weekly World News isn't a reliable source of information.

>>26342631
however this is a Pokemon game, and for Pokemon games i'm gonna have to agree with him on this. Overdesigned.

>>26342488
>Sun - Lion
>Moon - Bat
>Eclipse - Manticora/Gryphon

>>26342524
>>26342694
Compared to something like Black/White Kyurem or Hoopa Unbound these are in no way overdesigned, they're tame compared to those three.

>>26342524
Go back to gen 1 faggot

>>26342694

The standards of what constitutes acceptable Pokemon design has changed. They're not overdesigned, you're just stubborn and refuse to move on with the times.

>>26342488
It's very likely Zygarde is going to be the third, representing the Earth.

I heard something about a rabbit goddess that's a popular legend in Asia and Hawai'i.

I don't think it'll be part of the trio, though. Maybe the neutral cute legendary?

>>26342488
A scorpion
>>26341233

There will be none this time as they have decided to drop third versions entirely

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>when you realize the third type has to represent the Earth since the sun is already a star and the moon is clouds and Zygarde fits the bill perfectly
>when you realize that it explains its random ground typing
>when you realize that somehow Zygarde has more evidence to be the trio master twice in the row than evidence not to be
>when you realize perfect form only makes sense if this is true
what the fuck

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>>26342872
Zygarde still exists you dolt

>>26342727
These guys are at least on par with Hoopa Unbound. I dont even see how you could compare them as though they were totally different with a straight face.

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>>26342887
>moon is clouds

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>>26342887
Zygarde is based on Niddhog, the serpent that keeps the nine realms in balance in Norse mythology.
>mfw the alternate realms represent alternate timelines and Zygarde keeps them in balance

>>26342887
So 50% is the XYZ trio master, while Complete Forme is the Sun/Moon/Earth master?

>>26342488
>Any speculation on what the trio master could be?
Marshadow. White, like Solgaleo and Lunaala, but with black accents that could symbolize black holes or eclipses. Like Solgaleo and Lunaala, and since it has "Mars" in its name", something red too. Would probably have multiple formes, Solar Eclipse and Lunar Eclipse formes. Maybe even a third "Perfect" forme to counter Zygarde, since these legends are obviously tied to them in some way.

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>>26342821
No. Groudon is represent the Earth.
Likely.

>>26342939
>Mars
>martian
>martians are green
>it has green accents
>it follows the red, blue and green/yellow theme of box legends
>yfw

>>26342973
Not really. It represents the ground on our planet, not the whole planet. Hell, even Kyogre would represent it better.

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M-maybe Zygarde can be the third mascot this time...

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>>26342931
Wrong.

Solgaleo = God

Lunaala = Jesus

Dovetail = Holy Spirit


ALternatively:

Solgaleo = Antichrist

Lunaala = Satan

Leopard = Beast

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>>26342994
You are a complete idoit.

Zygarde doesn't represent the Earth.

Groudon is the creator of lands.

Azelf keep the World in Balance.

Zygarde doesn't.

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>>26342997
How is Zygarde not based on Norse mythology?

>>26342996
No.

>>26343038
I don't know?

>>26343055
Two of zygardes forms are based off of two of the sons of Loki. One being Nidhogg the serpent (50%) and the other being Fenrir a giant wolf (10%)

>>26343027
>Azelf keep the World in Balance.
???

>>26343027
I think you might be retarded, son.

>>26343027
fuck off mewtist

>>26342660
Fuck off

>>26343106
If you are going to mention Norse mythos at least do some fucking research.
Niohoggr is the wurm feasting upon Yggdrasil, unrelated to Loki. It represents destruction, not balance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%AD%C3%B0h%C3%B6ggr

>>26342997
>>26343211
Oh shit
So Nidhogg is actually Giratina then. So then what the hell is Zygarde? A gundam that protects earth?

>>26342994
And Zygarde represents the ecosystem.The ecosystem is not the Earth itself retard.

>>26343106
Actually Niddhog isn't Loki's son. You must be talking of Jormungandr (and he doesn't keep the worlds in balance either, he's just the limit of the World)

>>26343262
Zygarde can be based of Niddhog, he doesn't need to be exactly him.

>>26343262
Probably a knight. Wolves, Serpents and Dragons were used in heraldry for knights, Its a PROTECTOR of ecosystems, and the complete stage is humanlike and armored. Its not that big of a stretch.

>>26343331
Giratina is the only legendary that's actually evil though so it would makes sense for him to be Nidhogg. Plus one of his forms is an actual serpent.

>>26343404
Giratina Is not evil at all.

>>26342694
Literally an opinion used by genwunners and people who like to complain about nothing. Shut the fuck up.

Either Zygarde or an eclipse Pokemon.

>>26343155
You are a complete fool.

>>26343027
Why is Zygaurd an ecoterrorist Santa?

>>26342488
>Zygardefags not welcome
Well too fucking bad I guess

>>26343124
Read It's Pokédex entries and play the 4th generation games.

>>26342727
Those aren't even overdesigned! Quit with this fucking overdesigned meme! If you don't like it, don't use it, whatever, but quit being cancer!

>>26343517
Zygarde sorry ive been drinking

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>>26342887

>>26343517

Game freak have all the answers.

>>26342790
Literally this.

>>26342509
No. That's wrong.

>>26343262
Zygarde is based off of both Nighogg and Jörmungandr.

>>26343571
Prove it then, instead of just saying "no".

I don't know what it would even be but a black hole based legendary would be cool. But eclipse is probably more likely.

>>26343592
He isn't the one to prove things, but you have more rights to ask him why he says so.

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>>26343638
Eclipse pokemon with 2 forms sun blocking moon/ moon blocking sun

>>26343662
God fucking damn
Where's Bisharp, though?

>>26343404
See
>>26343492
Literally this.

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>>26343492
>>26343692
???

>>26342488
I think it would be cool if the trio was based on the constellations.

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I'm starting to think zygarde and his alternate forms won't even be in sun and moon. I think they're an anime only thing due to Marshadow being the third legend of gen 7

>>26343890
Being violent doesn't make something "evil".

>>26343989
Ok. But why is basically the satan of Pokemon?

>>26344036
What bio are you reading that says it's the satan of Pokemon? All we know is that it was banished from the regular world because it was too violent.

>>26343973
Don't think like that, Hades.

>>26344094
Because Arceus is the God of Pokemon...? Is this really that big of a concept for you to understand?

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>>26344191
Ash Greninja is definitely an anime only concept, what's stopping zygardes forms from being the same? Unless if the cores are basically the togepi of the XYZ anime and giving us a sneak peak.

>>26344319
What stops Ash Greninja from being in the games is that he's even named after an anime only character; Ash. Zygarde is not the same.

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>>26344365

>>26342921
Newfag.

>>26344365
I though the only Zygarde in the games was 50%. No?

>>26344513
I don't get you, now.

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>>26342488
What if we have a thir Legendary that represents [whatever] but is also a marine animal, same with Solgale being Sun and Lion (land animal) and Lunaala being Moon and Bat (sky animal) as little nod to Hoenn's Weather Trio, since Alola, being based on Hawaii, is likely to be an archipelago and thus with a lot of water?

Somethink like a shark or a whale/sperm whale.

either something related to an eclipse or the earth

dunno what animal would represent an eclipse, but the earth one could be turtle-like

>>26344231
That isn't the story of God and Satan at all, you fucking mong. You're trying to draw a comparison that isn't even there.

>>26344540
I'm not the person your where replying to or the one that replied to you.

>>26344570
We already have the Leviathan/Behemoth concept with Kyogre and Groudon, though.

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>>26342524
>uses the word overdesigned as if it honestly matters
>thinks it actually matters
>actually doesn't understand what overdesigned is, or what a Pokemon can look like

>>26344598
this. the third legendary will be a turtle that represents earth. based on the world turtle from like 50 cultures. plus the region is a tropical island so there will definitely be an aquatic legendary. solgaleo/sun/lives on land, lunaala/moon/flies, turtle/earth/lives in water

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>>26344648
I didn't realize it was possible to be this retarded

>>26344319
>anime only concept
>has been in every spinoff released since its existence
okay

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It's probably that marshadow thing. I'm hoping there's no third and Arceus comes back with a second form. His origin story is Hawaiin and he's got the whole white and gold thing going on already.

>>26344849
It means anything that's not from the actual games you autist

Sol/Lun/Mar = Sun/Moon/Sea (and also, Sunday/Monday/Tuesday). Pretty sure that Marshadow is the third of the trio here.

Following the Sea part of that, I guess we'll get some water type. Water/Dragon? Water/Flying seems weak.

Shadow = Eclipse. But what if Mars is abbreviated marsupial. A Yapok.

>>26342488
Isn't the other legendary supposed to be named Marshadow?

I'm guessing it'll represent an eclipse or pure darkness or something of the like.

>>26342488
Hopefully something that doesn't look absolutely retarded like those two piles of trash.

>a star of david golem pokemon

You know, three abrahamic religions

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>>26342887
This.

>>26344909
There was no anime-only content shilled this much everywhere.

Zygarde PROBABLY will be somewhere in new games, be it SM or next ones, and GreninjAsh will PROBABLY be introduced into games as Mega Greninja or new gimmick.

If one of next CoroCoro's says anything about synchro formes or evolutions, the latter will be pretty much confirmed.

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>>26344675
That doesn't mean it can't be reproduced with some little variations, though.

See Ho-Oh and Lugia whose Day and Night themes (among others) can be attached to the Alola duo, from certain point of view..

>>26344896
Arceus origin story is based on Egg Creation Myth, which almost every religion had at the time.

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>>26344231
>Arceus
>western God

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Didn't we have Lugia and Ho-oh for the sun/moon theme already?

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>>26343973
Zygarde formes aren't anime only

>>26345885
Are you retarded

>>26342524
Legendary pokemon always get a free pass in my book when it comes to over designing. They're supposed to look stupidly powerful

>>26346309
How is he retarded? What do they represent then?

Zygarde is not the trio master but the four colors you see (red, blue, orange, and light blue) do represent yvetal, xerneas, solgaleo and lunalla. What people don't know is that marshadow (3rd legendary of sun and moon) is mainly white and is the final (5th) piece to zyguarde.

>>26346782
This would make a fuckton of sense

>>26346705
Creation and Destruction, Life and Death.

>>26346112
reminder that Ash-Greninja is in TCG as well, so I don't think this point is valid

>>26342488
>Yet ANOTHER pair of legendaries that hate each other

Jesus, why can't they learn from Manaphy and Phione or Latios or Latias?

>>26347528
Ash-Greninja is a promo card though

>>26347579
Is the Zygarde one a promo card?

>>26347604
Nope it's even got a deck themed around it

>>26346782
I haven't been following Gen 7 news too much lately. When/where was Marshadow mentioned? Is it just another case of Game Freak copyrighting a name?

>>26347361
That seems like a stretch. Also, that's what Xernas/Yvetal were for. I'm not the guy you replied to, and while I don't think that Ho-oh and Lugia necessarily represent the sun and the moon, they're definitely extremely related to the sun and moon.

>>26347747
It was around when the other legends got their name, if those are the names, along with GIGAREKI

>>26347547
Where was it said that they hate each other? The only two legendaries I can think of that outright hate eachother are Kyogre and Groudon.

>>26342488
What are the normal trios associated with the two?
The sun, the moon, and the stars? The earth? Space itself?
Whatever it is, it has to bring balance between the other two.

>>26347797
Ah.
I don't feel like Marshadow is the name of the trio master; why would something marsh related be the master of pokemon that represent the sun and the moon? Also, I doubt a pokemon with shadow in its name would be white.

>>26346705
Sea and Sky.
>>26347361
Xerneas/Yevltal for both.

Zycucks are the new 6.5fags.

I fucking hate this board.

>>26343022

Holy comment very good.

>>26347855

>Why would something marsh related be the master of pokemon that represent the sun and the moon

BECAUSE FUCKING SUNLIGHT AND MOONLIGHT REFLECT IN MARSH WATER, SO OBVIOUSLY WE NEED A GATOR TRIO MASTER TO FIT IN WITH THE MURICA REGION, AND REPRESENT THE REPRESSED WHITE MAN OF FLORIDA IN A CHINESE VISUAL NOVEL YOU NEW FAG.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Now that you have your obligatory rage, it's Mars-shadow i.e. a planetary and eclipse theme. Probably a scorpion if they keep up the manticore theme, it's the only animal that's missing as the stories tend to either choose a gryphon or a bat as well as a lion and a scorpion, not both.

Solgaleo= Sol
Lunaala= Mani
In Norse mythology Sol and Mani pulled the sun and moon behind them with a horse-drawn chariot.

I'm assuming the 3rd will be based on their father, Mundilfari, who was a giant. Or maybe Zygarde is suppose to be the giant.

>>26348505
Zygarde's based off of a fuckton of things, I realized

>>26343262
It's a WEAPON from final fantasy VII.

The legends are from Balinese myth.

Solgaleo is Barong the white-haired lion of light, whose fur is adorned with precious stones and gilded mirrors to reflect the sun's rays against his enemies.

He fights Rangda, the witch queen of the demons, who take the form of flying vampires missing their lower extremities who come at night to steal men's lives. That's Lunaala.

And Marshadow is Batara Kala the god of the underworld. He causes eclipses by trying to eat the sun or the moon.

>>26348658
>He causes eclipses by trying to eat the sun or the moon.
>Fenrir basically does the same thing
DEEPEST

>>26348658
Fire/Steel makes perfect sense for Solgaleo then. Metal is very reflective and most of Solgaleo's body looks like metal with the indents and spikes. Lunaala could still be a lot of things. Ghost/Flying, Dark/Flying, Fairy/Flying, Ghost/Dark with levitate, Ghost/Fairy with levitate, or Fairy/Dark with levitate?

>>26346705
The sea and sky you dumbass.

>>26348526
Zygarde is based on Jörmungandr. Zygarde being the one to control the balance of Kalos is a direct correlation to how if Jörmungandr lets go of the world, it will end. It's dog form is based on Fenrir and Perfect Zygarde can be based on Hel. Its appearance alone is a reference to Hel where her flesh is half blue and half red.

>>26342488
I'm confused that they made it a bat and not a wolf. I know that's probably the most generic thing ever, but seriously.

>>26349215
As I said; based on a lot of different things

WE ARE BATMAN AND CATWOMAN.

>>26348658
>He fights Rangda, the witch queen of the demons, who take the form of flying vampires missing their lower extremities who come at night to steal men's lives.

Source on this part? It's the second time today I've read this rumor and while the Lion part ties in, I can't find anything online associating Rangda with bats or vampires of any kind.

>mfw zygarde wasn't the complementary of X&Y, but instead will complement X&Y&RO&SA&S&M

HAVE YOU ACCEPTED ZYGARDE AS YOUR GOD SAVIOUR

>>26350032
Rangda is queen of the demons known as Leyaks, they're the vampires. The two are combined for Lunaala since Rangda is Barong's enemy.

>>26342488
>sun legendary
>that color scheme
what the fuck was gamefreak thinking?

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>>26350220
These things?

>>26350157
But he's so small and ugly
Looks like a slug

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>>26350994
>and always capable of severing its upper torso and sprouting huge bat-like wings to fly into the night in search of its victims

>pokemon is satanic

>>26343500
>Complaining about someone complaining about nothing with a far shittier argument toward the complainer you're complaining about
Get a fucking life you half-wit and atleast provide some evidence to back up your bullshit claims

>literally
my ass

>>26342921
that meme is like, a few months old. They're trying to force it subtly?

>>26342488
ZYGARDE WILL SAVE US

>>26344570
>Somethink

>>26346705
Storms and rainbows.

Which makes it sort of dumb that Kyogre exists, but yeah.

>>26342488
Zygarde representing the Earth

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>>26342488
Hopefully something like this.

There better be some sort of stone idol legendary. And it better not be event exclusive. FUCK event exclusivity.

>>26352737
It doesn't.

>>26342488
Who says there has to be a "trio master" Having just two legendaries can work just fine. Especially something like the sun and moon idea

>>26342488
>trio master

I want bulbapedia to leave

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>Thousand Waves to hit super effective against fire-type Solgaleo
>Thousand Arrows to hit super effective against poison/flying-type Lunaala
yfw Zygarde completes the trio

>>26342488
SUNLION
MOONBAT
STARFISH

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>>26343541
Non-cancer version.

>>26344570
The Fiji Mermaid, she will let it know...

>>26353203
thanks

>>26353196
The sun is a star.

>>26353331
>implying that matters

>>26342509
Yeah and the moon is clouds as well

Zygarde is:

10% Fenrir (son of Loki) & Sköll AND Hati (sons/brothers of Fenrir), wolves chasing Sól and Máni (Sun and Moon gods)
50% Jogmundarder (son of Loki, Midgar's serpent) AND Nidhogg.
100% Hela (Godness daughter of Loki) AND... ???
"1%" - HeLa (cells https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjTq-rEl97MAhVG2hoKHRdJDiIQFggtMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHeLa&usg=AFQjCNENbXOLA-i0jYQsG60h5ujM8mFvNA&sig2=KgOOO9xkf5t072cCxWTOBw)

Midgar harts (Dáinn, Dvalinn, Duneyrr y Duraþrór) = Xerneas
Asgard birds (Veðrfölnir and the unmaned eagle) = Yveltal
Sun Godness (Sól) = Solgaleo
Moon God (Máni) = Lunaala

Sól and Sun hunter (Sköll) = Zygarde 10% (core A)
Máni and Moon hunter (Hati) = Zygarde 10% (core B)
Dragon serpent (Nidhogg) = Zygarde 50% (core A)
Sea serpent (Jomungarder) = Zygarde 50% (core B)
Life-Death, counterparts, duality and eternal rest godness (Hela) = Zygarde (two cores)

>>26353331
what about the moon?

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>>26346782
>STILL being a kalosfag

XY had no trio.

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How many times do i have to post this?

>>26353803
3 please.

>Barong and Rangda
Third legendary is obviously Shiva, whom you obtain by fusing the two together.

>>26342997
That's Izanami.

>>26342488
They aren't representing Sun and Moon. Xerneas and Yveltal don't represent letter X and Y in anything but they shape. They are represantation of life and death. Same thing with Zekrom and Reshiram.

>>26353803
What the fuck is that?

>>26354126
Azoth, God essence, Zygarde. The Sun, the Moon, the Male, the Female, the planets, the stars, the space, the cosmos, all of things. This is Azoth, this is Zygarde.

>>26342488
Probably the Stars.

Fits with the Sun, The Moon, and The Stars. Meaning tarot card legendaries.

>>26342973
While Groudon represents the soil of the planet, Zygarde would represent the entirety essentially making it Pokemon's lifestream

>>26342488
Starfish

They removed the regional trio from X and Y and gave us legendary birds again


The same will happen here

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Probably robot thing from the movie

>>26353944
>Xerneas and Yveltal don't represent letter X and Y in anything but they shape
They're more related to the XY dimensions then the letters themselves
>Same thing with Zekrom and Reshiram
Their non-localized species classifications says otherwise

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>>26354892
Forgot pic

>>26346782
I can see this happening.

>>26353803
but Lunaala isn't a bird.

>>26355066
and Kyogre doesn't even look like a killer whale