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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>NEW Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfM1qP1cbj4

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! [May 12th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! [May 19th]
>XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! [May 26th]
>XY&Z029: Ash Greninja VS Mega Abomasnow! The Giant Water Shuriken Triggers!! [Jun 2nd]
>XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! [Jun 9th}

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26276456
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PM43 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_043_-_March_of_the_Nassy_Squad![H264_SUB][508C19A9].mkv.torrent

DP67 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_536_DP067_Hikari's_First_Gym_Battle!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][A0B6C5D2].mkv.torrent

XY&Z21 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_021_A_Bride_for_Citron!_Eureka's_Sil-vous-plait_Panic!![H264_720P][16E8E590].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent

XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866

XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860

XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938

XY&Z25 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=808965

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z26: RIVAL SHOWDOWN! SATOSHI VS SHOTA!! (MAY 12TH)
>Having reunited with Shota for the first time in a while, Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with him. Shota has already gathered 8 badges, but just how strong is he now!?

>Summary:
>As Satoshi and his friends head towards Eisetsu City to get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Satoshi, tells them that he has already collected 8 badges. Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test how strong he has become, but...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Shinichiro Miki: Luchabull
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kensuke Sato: Livolt
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Trainer
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Female Admin
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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PM43 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_043_-_March_of_the_Nassy_Squad![H264_SUB][508C19A9].mkv.torrent

DP67 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_536_DP067_Hikari's_First_Gym_Battle!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][A0B6C5D2].mkv.torrent

XY&Z21 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_021_A_Bride_for_Citron!_Eureka's_Sil-vous-plait_Panic!![H264_720P][16E8E590].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent

XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866

XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860

XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938

XY&Z25 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=808965

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z26: RIVAL SHOWDOWN! SATOSHI VS SHOTA!! (MAY 12TH)
>Having reunited with Shota for the first time in a while, Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with him. Shota has already gathered 8 badges, but just how strong is he now!?

>Summary:
>As Satoshi and his friends head towards Eisetsu City to get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Satoshi, tells them that he has already collected 8 badges. Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test how strong he has become, but...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Shinichiro Miki: Luchabull
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kensuke Sato: Livolt
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Trainer
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Female Admin
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 32 (May 15th)

XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! (May 19th)
>Having arrived in Snowbelle City, Ash attempts the final Gym match needed to enter the Kalos League. His opponent is the Ice Type Gym Leader Wulfric. Ash struggles with the match, but the key to victory lies with a certain Pokémon.

XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! (May 26th)
>Serena and the others are worried about Ash after he disappeared into the forest at night and still didn't return by morning, so they all decide to go look for him. But as Ash is lost in the forest, that other Pokémon that disappeared as well appears before him. What is the answer Ash found in the forest?

XY&Z029: Ash Greninja VS Mega Abomasnow! The Giant Water Shuriken Triggers!! (Jun 2nd)
>After interacting with the Pokémon in the forest, Ash has matured a bit further. No longer lost on what to do, Ash once again issues a battle. Ash summons up everything he has gained so far on his journey: The knowledge, the experience and the memories made with the Pokémon. But the ultimate opponent appears before him: Mega Abomasnow.

XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! (Jun 9th)
>On their way to Lumiose City, Ash and his friends decide to stop by the wetlands where Goodra lives. Ash and the others are delighted at seeing Goodra again, but then trouble suddenly arrives! Incredibly, a single Carbink appears to be going on a rampage in the wetlands. Ash and his friends attempt to stop the Carbink together with Goodra and the wetland Pokémon, but then Team Rocket show up.

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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STOP SPAMMING

>>26281528
>>26281528
>>26281528
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>>26281740
>yfw Luna wins da satoshi
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thanks op
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>>26281740
>It sure looks that way.
You can't be serious.
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:^)
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It's a relief to finally have the good thread
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>>26281751
>>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena
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>>26281817
That wasn't OP
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>I-Its fine amourahipper is better than most imaginary ships
>we o-over achieved this season!
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>>26281814
This isn't a good thread, sadly
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I just want to talk starters someone fucking tell me which thread,

>Gen 1 all 3 starters
>Gen 2 all 3 starters
>Gen 3 Grass Line
>Gen 4 Grass and Fire Lines
>Gen 5 all three starters
>Gen 6 Water Line
>Gen 7 ???

So is Ash getting Ashimari? It would be odd to see him just get the water line again after this gen, but I could see them doing that. Will he get two lines and the third goes to a travel companion? Or will Ash get all 3 again? Personally I think the XY anime has been so good because Ash only had to showcase one starter. I can't see them giving him Rowlet because they will want to give him the regional bird, and Litten seems like it would go to companion flavor of the week. Which makes the sea lion the most likely candidate.
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>>26281863
It is, the shitposter part of the OP was made by some random faggot that posted after OP.
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>>26281868
Yeah basically. They have to give Ash the regional bird so no Rowlett, and Litten doesn't look like it's Ash's style at all.
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Why don't we just ignore the troll OPs? Bringing attention to them just makes it worse
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>>26281881
It isn't, and misusing spoiler tags isn't going to change that faggot.
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>>26281804
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>>26281740
Fuck off
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>>26281889
So you're saying we should ignore this thread? Ok
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ib4 clueless janitor deletes this thread
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>Everyone getting butthurt over "Will serena win da Ash?" being changed
why not just completely remove it from the OP? It seems kind of pointless anyway.
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>>26281763
Episode 30
>Ash meets Goodra again
>Wild Carbink goes nuts
>Goodra might come back onto Ash's team

Pls make this so his Goodra is so much like his Bayleef.
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So what do you guys think Serena's role in the Volcanion movie is going to be? From all of the previews we've gotten so far she hasn't had much of a presence.

With the focus on Volcanion and Magarnea's relationship and the plot to rescue her, do you think we'll have something similar with Ash and Serena where Serena gets captured and Ash plays the role of knight coming to the princesses rescue?

Since it's the last movie the possibility of a spaghetti scene wouldn't be to far fetched.

>>26281868
I see him probably getting Litten if they stick to the XY formula of Ash having fast and strong Pokemon. Rowlet probably won't be chosen because of the regional bird thing they do with Ash, and Popplio looks like it could potentially grow into a Walrin-esq sized Pokemon which is slow.

Litten looks like it'll be a quick, agile and strong starter.

Really depends on what the final evolutions are and whether or not the writing goes pants on head retarded like BW.
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>>26281889
We had the same troll edit in the OP for half a week once because nobody noticed and just kept reusing it
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>>26281939
his Goodra is a man
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>>26281941
Carton waifu
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>>26281917
Either that or just using whatever thread without making a fuss about troll edits every time. It's not like we can't silently fix them when the time for a new thread comes
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>>26281941
Hard to say. It seems Citron is going to be the one getting focus as far as the trailers go.
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>>26281973
I meant personality wise.
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>>26281983
That's literally just inviting trolls to make threads early and put whatever they want in the OP.
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>>26282011
>and put whatever they want in the OP.

Nobody fucking reads the OP anyway. Who cares?

Remember when this thread was for discussing anime instead of getting pissy over one line a OP being wrong?
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>>26281988
He's not in the manga, though.
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>>26281946
None of the links are duds. So what if someone changes the pseudo faq you sperg, it's not a big deal.
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>>26282030
>Remember when this thread was for discussing anime instead of getting pissy over one line a OP being wrong?

Actually? Never
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>>26282031
That's because Ash is travelling alone in the manga.
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>>26282036
They've changed the links before. That's the shitposter edit that stayed so long.
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>>26281937
Yeah I was about to say this.
It was okay in the beginning when everything was all fun and games, but now the amourshippers are too zealous for it to be left there without them getting triggered.
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>>26282070
>>26281946
>>26281889
>>26281881
>>26281863
stop misusing spoiler tags
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>>26282030
>Remember when this thread was for discussing anime instead of getting pissy over one line a OP being wrong?
People here like to complain about the shitposters, but those very people are easily just as cancerous and played an equal part in ruining these threads with their stupid, irrelevant e-drama discussion. It's really depressing.
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>>26281937
>>26282081
You do realize this would've happened if they/you had changed something else, too? Your falseflagging isn't helping you any
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>>26281988
Serena is barely in the trailer
Kek

Even Bonnie gets a pretty fucking rad scene
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that should have stayed as to avoid this kind of shit

>ask bonnie about it
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>>26282052
That's such a bizarre change. Why make the manga so different?
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>>26281937
>everyone getting butthurt over "Will serena win da Ash?" being changed
This is exactly why amourshippers killed these threads just as much as the "shitposters". Fuck me what's wrong with you people? Is one fucking line really this important?
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>>26282103
Now I don't even know what you're talking no one is false flagging anything.
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>>26282128
Probably the mangaka's preference.
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>>26282153
talking about*
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>>26282124
Nice try shitposter, you tried this trick in the thread from 5 days ago.
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>>26282153
Shitposters have been making new threads with rewritten OPs for a long time. What specific bit they've changed isn't the point, nor is it consistent.
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>>26282170
>falflagging this hard
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Holy shit just stop. Can we go back to discussing the movie?
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TV Ratings

GEN MIN - MAX
OS 8.3% - 18.6% AVG 14.105%
JT 5.3% - 14.9% AVG 10.689%
AG 4.2% - 11.0% AVG 7.065%
DP 4.1% - 9.3% AVG 6.396%
BW 2.2% - 9.3% AVG 5.292%
XY 3.2% - 6.4% AVG 4.559%
XYZ 2.4% - 4.4% AVG 3.673%

My pronostic:
S&M 1-2% - 4% AVG 2.5%

Should Satoshi stay or go?
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>>26282170
why? that was just there for comic relief, until someone changed it into what we currently have I wasn't me you fucking autist, go to tumblr and die with those faggots that still ship ash with misty
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>>26282193
I'm not, he tried making this argument in one of the threads sometime in the last week. I'd provide the proof if fgts wasn't down.

The current line stays, amour is happening.
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>>26282206
>we
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>>26282256
>amour is happening.

No it's not.
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>>26282239
I don't think you understand how ratings work.
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>>26282256
>The current line stays, amour is happening
Don't you have ship kids to draw tumblr landwhale?
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>>26282267
>>26282243
Go away.
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>>26282243
We did talk about changing it back a couple days ago, though. Right now the thread is just too full of shitposting and falseflagging to do much.
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>>26282239
Ash stay in SM and Serena dies in kalos
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>>26282256
>The current line stays, amour is happening.
If you seriously, actually believe this, then you are just beyond out of touch with reality.
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>this entire thread
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>>26282312
wasn't in that thread sorry, but yeah better wait for a mod to resolve this, both threads still get replies so nothing to do right now
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>>26282365
That's why the replacement thread needs to be made instantly. This turned into too big of a mess.
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So why did Ash not use his old mons in Unova league.
>inb4 cause it's BW
I didn't watch BW so I want real answer. Did he decide it or something like the Hoenn League?
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>>26282350
Ashs adventure ends in alola? Luna confirmed best grill?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10189522
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>>26282407
It never got addressed at all. Just BW being BW
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>>26282409
No, you'd get Ash and Serena traveling in Hawaii, Luna gets dealt the Hilda card so people don't bitch about her and the anime to some degree.
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>>26282407
He had more Pokemon to rotate around.
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>>26282414
I'd vote for changing it back to what it used to be, but I don't think this is the best time to discuss that.
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>>26282256
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Honestly i would prefer that ash won't recall any old mons

His current team is way too perfect
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>>26282437
Default Luna has black hair though

Only the aryan /pol/ trash wants blonde to be mc
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Is this thread the real thread???
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>>26282484
Yeah, but it's a mess.

Seems to have mostly calmed down right now, though
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>>26282484
Nope. Go to the other one. It's actually having decent discussion while this one is just retards getting angsty over a line being changed.
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>>26282461
Me neither, but it's not like shitposters are going to stop anytime soon
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>>26282437
>the Hilda card
So we're getting a Gym Leader then. That'll be nice, Iris fans were a lot calmer than Serena's.
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Have some Dawn for the day
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>>26282479
All SM fem protag have dark hair save one that's the Serena color.

That and the characters are being customized. Also fuck /pol/ and /tumblr/.
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Reminder that amourshippers are easily just as bad as anti-amour shitters. All this debate over the "will serena win da ash" is fucking cancerous and you should all fuck off to Bulbagarden.

There's way more to the anime than shipping but you autists just can't let it go.
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>>26282535
Even with shitposters, the poll was against ditching it, at least.

Would anyone mind if we changed it back to the "Ask Bonnie" version next thread?
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>>26282474
He only has five Pokémon and three of them are Flying types. He needs to bring in the reserves for some variety otherwise we'll have a repeat of BW's league on our hands.

Trust me his current team will get their chance to shine. Ash used his entire DP team against Paul after all.
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>>26282536
>Iris fans were a lot calmer then Serena's
There were no Iris fans to cause a ruckus though.
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>>26282615
You'd think they'd have started marketing his older mons by now if they were returning, though.
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>>26281751
>>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena
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>>26282600
That's because these threads are now dominated by amourshipping retards, the same retards who willfully engage in all these shitposting wars despite preaching against it.

Just get rid of that stupid faq altogether.
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>>26282536
>implying Iris had fans
Male gym leader, Ash, and Serena. Why wouldn't you get a gym leader, although I suppose Tracey exists.
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>>26282643
Some shitter posted inbetween the OP dumps
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>>26282599
post yfw Ash wrecks Shota's shit with his trump card, Goodra. Shota may have analyzed Ash a lot but it's the only pokemon he would have no idea about. He will be in for a surprise.
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>>26282564
But the gameplay footage defaults to the light skin with black hair designs for both characters. That means they're the default.

The blonde version has only been shown on the select screen.
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>>26282600
I wouldn't mind. But I can't help thinking the line per se is just fuel for shipping wars at this point
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>>26282643
He tried shitting it up but didn't work.
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>>26282599
I suppose to them, not acknowledging shipping at all is the same as admitting it's not happening.
Which is why they're so zealous in asserting their belief that amour is true and canon or whatever.

So either way, it's a lose-lose. Amourshippers won't accept anyone saying anything bad about it nor will they accept the option of just not talking about it at all.
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>>26282662
I don't read spoiler tags. I haven't finished watching all the episodes yet so I don't want to be spoiled
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Fucking hell
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>>26282671
>at this point
It's literally been there since day 1. I don't really see what has changed since then.
There's never been any genuine shipping wars here either
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>>26282681
It clearly did.
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Touko has better design than Luna
We already know what happened to her
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>>26282667
>Shota expects Ash to fight him with lightweight hard hitters
>Not bulky tanks with high power
He's fucked.
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>>26282686
Some shitter posted inbetween the OP dumps
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>>26282670
I didn't see the light skin on the girl, just on not!Calem.
Also:
>Ash has light skin
Customization's a thing now.
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>>26282564
>Also fuck /pol/
/pol/ is the neutral position, you can't hate them. It's about finding the truth and gaining knowledge of political stuff.
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>>26282706
I'm still mad. Fuck Worst Director.
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So, crazy theory. Between Pokemon Origins, the mini-short for Black and White 2, and a few other snippets, it is apparent that Pokemon is at least entertaining the idea of dropping Ash.
So they do it. The whole lead up with Diantha inviting Ash to the champion's league, and Ash's ties to the region and all that jazz is how they get Ash to stay in one place. Ash's story, as we follow him, is done. Maybe he gets with Serena, maybe (Insert Pokegirl of choice) comes back, maybe he goes down the path of a true wizard and never gets with anyone, whatever. He's done. Neato burrito.

The Sun/Moon anime primarily stars BOTH male and female protags, who are both newly moved there and bond over a mutual interest in Pokemon. Just like that Sun and Moon trailer. We follow all new characters, and maybe, just maybe, they run into Ash at some tournament somewhere, aged (yes, actually aged) 3-5 years and have an awesome, big-budget, three episode battle where Ash just barely wins and becomes champion on-screen/gets stomped by a newbie and is robbed yet again.
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>>26282706
I still don't get why the hell they chose not to use her. Her design is perfect.
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They wont make that mistake again they will use luna>>26282706
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>>26282699
By shipping wars do you mean May-Ash shippers and Serena-Ash shippers fighting or something? Because then obviously not.

There has more or less been an ongoing war between people who think amourshipping will happen, and people who don't though.
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>>26282706
Iris was a mistake
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>>26282758
I'm going to say because they wanted Ash to have three starters again.
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>>26282756
i was thinking the exact same thing
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>>26282768
To avoid that mistake they'd use Serena.
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>>26282756
>Between Pokemon Origins, the mini-short for Black and White 2, and a few other snippets, it is apparent that Pokemon is at least entertaining the idea of dropping Ash.

Origins was primarily aimed at adults who had played gen 1 as kids in an attempt at making them interested in picking up X/Y. The B2W2 short was literally animate scenes from the game.

You're really comparing apples and oranges here. Neither used Ash because there was no point in them doing so, just like the Mystery Dungeon specials didn't.
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>>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena

Holy shit.
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>>26282781
Advanceshippers would win that war anyway.
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Is it safe to say Amourshipping ruined these threads?

I'll be glad when Serena leaves, and her one-sided crush stays one-sided and unresolved. Maybe these threads will chill the fuck out and focus on other shit besides whether or not Serena will get fucked by Ash.
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>>26282756
>Between Pokemon Origins, the mini-short for Black and White 2, and a few other snippets, it is apparent that Pokemon is at least entertaining the idea of dropping Ash.
No, what the hell are you talking about? Those were all just to help promote the game. Animated shorts for games are created all the time. Star Fox literally just had one made.
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Moonshipping fanart when??
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>>26282867
No, they were ruined by you.
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>>26282781
Not really, unless you count the shitposters and their bait as "people who don't".
Also, it IS a subplot, the issue is how it will develop, not whether it's happening or not
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>>26282756
Your reasoning isn't very sound to me as >>26282817 said, but I like this idea. They're probably gonna drop a Pikachu voiced by Ikue Ohtani to one of the protags though because muh mascot
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>>26282859
Shitposter tried being the second info dump post but the real one made it first.
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>>26282796
Reusing a companion after their generation is a mistake. Misty was boring in Johto and Brock was completely pointless in Sinnoh.
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>>26282921
Misty's problem stemmed ever since Kanto and Brock was the one working in the background in Sinnoh.
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>>26282479
Fuck you degenerate scum, I bet you're a Jew
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>>26282882
What the fuck is moonahipping?
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>>26282921
May was kept for two separate quests and went after two different Grand Festivals without getting stale. Misty and Brock's problems were tied to their charcters.
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>>26282953
Go away Sweden you are drunk
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>>26282891
See this is what gets me, do amour shippers seriously actually truly believe that everyone that doesn't believe that their little fantasy will come true is shitposting or baiting?
Either this is just extreme autism, you're doing this on purpose and saying it's shitposting/bait to try and get people to believe it actually is, or your faith in amourshipping surpasses that of the Pope in God, and as such you can't even fathom that someone would think Serena will not end up with Ash.
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>>26282955
I assume Pomf's name for Ash x new girl?
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>>26282891
>Also, it IS a subplot
Idiot. You don't know what a subplot is.

Spaghetti moments here and there is not a subplot. Stop applying your headcanon logic to everything.
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>>26282968
May was still in her generation. She was dumped ASAP once Dawn was available.
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>>26282952
But had she actually left before Johto that problem wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did.
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>>26282976
What the literal hell are you even talking about?
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yare yare daze
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>>26282867
I don't ship hell I don't follow the anime so closely, but it matters because it gives the anime something to work towards, an extra layer of depth, rather than a shallow kids show
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She's retardedly cute with that retarded hat
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>>26282989
Maybe if you watched the episodes instead of baiting like you are now you'd see that it is a subplot. Stop applying your headcanon logic to everything.
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>>26283012
>rather than a shallow kids show

don't kid yourself, it isn't any less shallow just because they make one of the characters blush every few episodes.
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>>26282996
She went on two separate quests without growing stale. "But it was the same gen" doesn't change that.
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>>26282968
But in was still Gen 3. It also despite being set in Kanto was centered around Emerald's Battle Frontier.

Pokémon Sun and Moon is a new generation.
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>>26283028
>Maybe if you watched the episodes

I did. And she doesn't do anything outside of dropping her spaghetti every few episodes. I'm not even the guy you replied to.

>Stop applying your headcanon logic
This is hilarious coming from an amourfag.
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oh for fuck sake this still going? better wait 2 more days
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>>26283042
Yes, but you're still not explaining why that's some kind of dealbreaker. It's still two self-contained quests.
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>>26282756
I feel like they're getting ready to do this.

Not yet, but very soon. Maybe starting to really phase Ash out during SM and then do what you wrote.

I feel like they were testing the waters with various things.
>BW2 promo
>Origins
>ORAS promo
>ME Specials

Seeing how audiences handled and thought of these new protagonists, seeing whether or not it was a plausible idea to replace Ash or restart the series with a more rotation based cast of characters similar to the Pokemon Special manga.

Whatever information they received through all this possible testing, I'd love to see their internal results and findings.
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>>26283006
>someone says amourshipping is dead/stupid/not happening/anything against it
>Nuh-uh! You're just shitposting!
That's what I'm talking about.
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>>26283033
I never said going on a separate quest made characters stale. I said staying after their generation. If I meant that I'd have said Misty got stale in the Orange Islands.
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>>26283030
It's a step in the right direction. Do you know how amazing the potential is for Pokemon to have an anime that explores the hidden implications of the universe
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>>26283097
She did
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>>26283055
>I did. And she doesn't do anything outside of dropping her spaghetti every few episodes.

m8, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>26283078
but they are, amour its happening, why the fuck would they push it so hard in the anime?
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>>26283097
>Misty got stale in the Orange Islands.
Mist got stale BEFORE the Orange islands.
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>>26283097
>If I meant that I'd have said Misty got stale in the Orange Islands
She honestly did.
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>>26282882
It's going to be SunShipping or AlohaShipping.

Preferably SunShipping. If the moon becomes a favorite at least do LunarShipping.
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>>26283097
Misty had her issues in Kanto, she went to islands then another region. They tried giving her something in OI but that wasn't even touched until later Johto, and even then rarely.
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Do you still like XY Ash despite being the same Ash who lost to a Lv. 5 Snivy and created bullshit strategies such as the thunder armor and "aim for the horn"?
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>>26283117
Rack in the viewers. Jesus it's not even hard to understand. Have you seen the previews for episodes with spaghetti? That's what they promote. Bait and switch and your episode was meant to be a sylveon one. But that's Tokyo TVs way of doing things perhaps not what the director wants to get accross same with the promo accross magazines etc.
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>>26283173
OI is where that Water Pokemon Master thing got introduced, right? Then they just pretended she had always claimed she wanted to be one.
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>>26283103
>>26283123
>>26283125
It was a downward spiral. Johto just marked the point where she'd hit the bottom.
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>Serena ends up going with Ash to Alola
>She gets her hopes up and ends up convincing herself it's gonna be some romantic trip
>He's just excited about the new pokemon and the new league
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>>26283117
I have no clue how you can thing it's "being pushed so hard".
It's been nothing more than a one sided crush from Serena with cute moments. That much is obvious and I don't think many people will deny.
It's when people start saying that Serena will stay and end up with Ash, when there's virtually no evidence to support that is what people are talking about when they say it's not happening.
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>>26283055
>I did. And she doesn't do anything outside of dropping her spaghetti every few episodes. I'm not even the guy you replied to.
Yeah, that's bullshit and you know it.
>This is hilarious coming from an amourfag.
All you're doing is saying you haven't actually watched episodes.
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>>26283208
think*
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>>26283190
>Do you still like XY Ash despite being the same Ash who lost to a Lv. 5 Snivy
Not well written, but had an in-show explanation
>and created bullshit strategies such as the thunder armor
Bullshit writing, but the strategy worked
>and "aim for the horn"?
That was Pikachu. And it, too, worked.

Not seeing your point.
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>>26283117
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>>26283028
But I have been watching, and once again, it's only ever been spaghetti. You. Stupid. Idiot.

Go research and understand what a subplot is before exposing your stupidity again, or at the very least, explain HOW it's a subplot, rather than mindlessly claim it is like the moron you are.
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>>26283205
Obviously, but that's the case for Brock in DP too. Doesn't change the fact that he was just as stale as Misty in Johto.
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>>26283200
Yeah, before it was "better trainer". The problem was she didn't even try being better in Kanto either.
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>>26283190
didn't pikachu got his power stolen by zekrom before fighting snivy?
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>>26283285
Yes.
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i hope serena's braixen evolves into best fox before ash moves on to a better female companion
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>>26283207
This is very suspicious.
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>>26283117
Not same anon, but while Serena's crush on Ash is canon any evidence of Ash having feelings for her is up to debate. I personally believe Amour is kinda happening (don't know how far they'll go with it), but I can imagine other people thinking otherwise.

>b-but they're just baiting/shitposting

I know, there's shitposters in here, but too often who doesn't believe in Amour being a two-sided thing gets silenced here even if they just wanna have a normal discussion about it.
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Serena gave me short hair fetish.

Now I can't stop thinking about gen 7 girl
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>>26283285
Yeah. It never plays any purpose beyond making Pikachu lose that one battle, either. BW was such a fucking mess.
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>>26283123
Eh, Misty was still alright in Orange Islands. Maybe its because Tracey was there too, but she still had her funny moments in that season and I loved the Golduck episode.
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>>26283244
So you post your file name to describe yourself?

I don't know where to start, Serena leaving and starting because of Ash, those moments where Serena is what gets Ash to go further in his journey, the moments with Serena during Tripokalons. Please tell me I'm being baited.

What's the image for anyway?
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Anons

Is it ok if we discuss OS?
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>>26281740
Why does he have so many flying types in his party?
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>>26283291
then how its weird that he lost?, if you want to argue with something like levels in the anime then pikachu had like 1hp left, not defending BW in any fucking way, it was shit and I personally hated BOTH cilan and iris, but I never found weird that he lost there
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>>26283304
>I know, there's shitposters in here, but too often who doesn't believe in Amour being a two-sided thing gets silenced here even if they just wanna have a normal discussion about it.
I honestly don't see that happening unless they're being really bad with their wording or pick the middle of a shitposter spree to mention it. There HAS been proper discussions on the subject.
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>>26282867
These threads are slow as fuck when they're not being shitposted, but they have nice discussions like in the four days before the SM video.

Now look at how fast they are, and how shipping discussion overtook the discussion about Greninja's arc or the upcoming battle against Shota.

It's fucking shitposters, and I'd bet I'm replying to one, but I guess you're right on one thing: there won't be any shitposting after Kalos, no matter how it ends, because of how fast these threads will drop to page 10.
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>>26283357
He didn't fly so good.
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>>26283354
Sure? We were already kind of talking about it.
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>>26283369
Yes. filipino here moving to hawaii soon. It's literally philippines 2.0 but you're considered as american.
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>>26283315
maybe because he recovers his electricity at the end of the chapter? people that complain about that actually watched the chapter or are just memeing?
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>>26283366
>because of how fast these threads will drop to page 10.

The threads aren't THAT slow, anon. And the start of the next series WILL bring in new people
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Luna >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Serena >May>All
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>>26283369
I know people like Phoebe, but they rarely post here.
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>>26283294
I feel like this is going to be brought up near the very end, Serena wanted to talk to her mom here for advice it seems but chickened out.

She'll probably contact home before Ash leaves and asks for her moms advice on what to do. Whether to pursue her dream or follow Ash.

Also, after Yashio said "I'll teach you everything there is to know about being a performer" I expected a hard cut to some sort of hentai of an idol sucking off a producer or hiring agent.

4chan has ruined me.
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Amour has not changed since the first relationship chart.

Serena loves Ash, and Ash views her as one of his best buddies.
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>>26283414
She's cute /padt/ I'm losing myself.

I hope Ash's journey ends on a high note and she becomes MC
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>>26283348
>So you post your file name to describe yourself?
No, it's to expose your laughable samefag accusations, idiot.

>those moments where Serena is what gets Ash to go further in his journey, the moments with Serena during Tripokalons
That isn't a SUBPLOT. You're a fucking moron.

>Please tell me I'm being baited.
No, you're just outrageously stupid. Explain what a subplot is, then explain how "moments" like that fulfill the definition of subplot.

>What's the image for anyway?
Ok, so you're even dumber than I thought. Lurk more you idiot.
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>>26283358
>>26283400
I think a lot of it is just the usual "the anime sucks" people finding something specific to jump onto. See also "Ash forgot what a Koffing was".

For some reason they never shitposted much about the Elesa battle even though Ash IS disturbingly out-of-character stupid in it.
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>>26283429
Dawn's the best buddy in case you missed the memo and what happened in recent episodes.
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>>26283369
She's a foreigner.
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>>26283294
This is it for Serena. I still find it hard to believe that Yashio wants her
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>>26283432
She is a qt

Need more fanart

Hopefully over the weekend
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>>26283369
I fapped to futa porn of her. Don't judge
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Why is Pikachu's Goodbye so best?
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>>26283294
fuck that old bitch
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>>26283457
She stepped on Hawaii

She is the hawaiin queen
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>>26283469
Cute
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>>26283441
Well, have to say that wasn't me if you were trying to put that second post as me. Although you did confirm that you're the usual shitposter with all your use of "idiot" "moron" and shit.
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>>26283426
>Serena always does the opposite of what her mother says
>mfw Grace tells her to follow Ash and she doesn't
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>>26283496
There's something about those shorts I really like, though I don't get what
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>>26283452
>Serena is his childhood friend love interest.
>Dawn is his fembro/imouto.
>May is his kouhai
>Misty is his tomboy pal
>Iris is a nigger

The girls each have their role in the hierarchy of relationship to Ash.
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>>26283469
Damn now i want a girlfiend with black hair. Sorry Lorena
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>>26283512
>this is the one time she follows her mothers advice to close off her character development for XY
I'd fucking love this.
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>>26283512
>Grace overheard about the Tripokalon thing
>Grace tells her to do the Tripokalon
>because Serena does the opposite she'l go with Ash
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>>26283478
Because the insert song. Honestly.
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>>26283398
from what I also researched many Ilocanos reside there, or have relatives.
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>>26282758
Too hot for the anime
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>>26283523
So the next girl is going to be the busty and lewd onee-chan?
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>>26283523
so old one that teach him about the pokes of her region and acts like a sensei when? I just want the /ss/ pics
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>>26283553
How? She's no worse than Misty or Shauna.
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>>26283553
They had Elesa and Georgia and they showed Misty in the old OS clothing. That wasn't it.
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>>26283403
They are. The only reason these threads don't fall so quick is because this is a slow board, except during happening times just like this one. If the SM characters hadn't been revealed yet, these threads would be sliding to pg 10 hella fast, as there wouldn't be anything that relevant to the anime to discuss (like new companions or whether Serena stays or not or whatever).

Also
>bring new people
If by that you mean new Japanese children who will replace the ones already too old to keep watching Pokemon, I agree. Other than them, the anime fanbase will drop to BW levels or lower, as most of them will be convinced (if Kalos ends like the rest of the regions ended) that Ash will never win a league, will never get a girl, and will be repeating the same formula ad nauseaum in every single region until Rica dies, Pokemon as a franchise dies, or Tv Tokio dies.
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>>26281788
that picture makes me like her more, props to artist
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>>26283546
One of the few times dub did something better than sub.

The Time Has Come > Oyasumi Boku no Pikachu by far.

Although the former was specifically made for this scene if I remember correctly.
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>>26283573
>If by that you mean new Japanese children who will replace the ones already too old to keep watching Pokemon, I agree.
>Japanese children
Anon...
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>>26283567
>>26283566
her extra short shorts were too lewd
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>>26283580
>Although the former was specifically made for this scene if I remember correctly.
Yeah. Oyasumi Boku no Pikachu was an old image song from the Mezase Pokemon Master CD and the lyrics had nothing to do with the scene.
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>>26283441
Here is Amour. The mater list:

XY005: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY006: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY007: Serena being beta, spaghetti and Ash being clueless.
XY013: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY0021: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY025: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY026: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY031: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY037: Serena being worried about Ash
XY040: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY059: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash being a good friend
XY060: Serena being bashful around Ash and Ash being clueless.
XY080: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash being clueless.
XY085: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash complimenting Serena AND Bonnie.
XY090: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash being clueless.
XYZ12: Serena being beta and spaghetti. Ash encouraging another guy to go with her and being clueless.
XYZ19: Serena spaghetti and Ash clueless
XYZ20: Serena spaghetti and Ash clueless
XYZ22: Serena spaghetti

inb4 muh samefag fallback. Because they don't know how to say anything else.
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>>26283586
Shauna's are shorter than Hilda's. Hell, they're about Misty's length.
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>>26283549
13% of hawaiian state population are filipinos
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>>26283108
Yeah, rewatching the episode, it's really great seeing how confident and enthusiastic Ash was about becoming a Pokemon trainer, despite not being any good at all and everything working against him, with him finally succeeding in winning over Pikachu at the end.
It would have been nice to see things have more meaning like this or something like that I'm not sure how to explain it. But the general tone of season 1 is something I really miss in XY, and pretty much any series after Season 1 too actually. Every epsiode where Ash got a new Pokemon in season one managed to be somewhat emotional in a way, only times they weren't particularly was when he got Caterpie and Pidgey, but in those cases their releases ended up being really good emotional episodes.
And of course Muk and Krabby weren't very emotional either.

>>26283404
Yeah it really got the emotional moments down well.
Posting her because someone said I should.
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>>26283595
That explains why some of the lyrics felt a bit off.
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>>26283441
>>26283598
At least pretend you aren't samefagging.
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>>26283561
Only the bird screencap this
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XY is shit because the whole 8 badges plot is not only retarded, but it's been completely exhausted to the point where it's become meaningless. Who the fuck cares about the league or winning badges at this point, it's all just a method of starting pokemon battles for the kids watching. At least in the OS, Gym battles provided Ash with character arcs that develop him as both a trainer and a person, but now he doesn't develop at all; there's nothing left to do with him.
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>>26283586
If this was okay, Hilda's are okay.
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>>26283617
Nice shitpost m8, keep proving my point and showing your predictability.
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>>26283496
Black hair is more cute
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>>26283507
>Well, have to say that wasn't me
Nice try idiot.
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>>26283586
It would look good on Serena
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>>26283598

>list doesn't even have all the moments
>disregards actual moments that aren't about spaghetti
>jumps to "m-muh samefag fallback"

Seriously.
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surely there won't be as much shitposting later when the ep airs right
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>>26283640
True desu.
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>>26283611
I think the Hawlucha episode is pretty good for evoking those same feels. It's all about gaining a wild Pokemon's respect and working with it
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>>26283640
A question of taste
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SO
IT
BEGINS
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>>26283640
>>26283691
I can't choose. Fuck.
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>>26283604
yeah but there was a lot of fanart of it the moment it was announced, like really a fucking lot of fanart, people was to aware of her ass/legs to let it pass

seriously now, its probably this >>26282784, and the fact that they wanted to cater to nostalgia a lot with BW
>two gym leaders traveling with him
>fucking charizard
>3 starters
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>>26283640
When the new series starts, it will be called Chickenshipping.
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>>26283642
Good try idiot.
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>>26283584
Something wrong? Of course even the little shits don't watch tv as they used to: nobody does anymore. But there will always be that demography of children from a certain age they'll go for.
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T A N N E D
A
N
N
E
D

you all have shit taste
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So anons, what if Serena dyes her hair black?
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>>26283718
You don't know about the declining birth rates of Japan?
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>>26283739
edgy
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>>26283703
They look like they are siblings!

Still gen 7 girl is cute as fuck
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>>26283554
>>26283563
I want an Onee-chan like Alexa only a few years younger then her. Like 18 years old who acts like a child, but when she see's her little brother Ash getting bullied she steps up as best Nee-chan and does what Nee-chans do best.

Actually, I want a companion who Ash gives or calls by a nickname.

That's one character trait we haven't seen yet. Having Ash call a companion or recurring character, Nee-san, Aniki, or Nee-sama.

>>26283691
Have a high res version famalam.

>>26283709
SunShipping or bust. Or, EclipseShipping because Luna is the moon and Ash is the sun.
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>>26283718
I think he wanted to do a joke about japan birth rates declining, there aren't kids to watch the show
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>>26283705
Light-skinned pacific islanders are C U T E

Islander here
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>>26283638
You too, now try posting the actual list and not the bait one.
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>>26283611
I know exactly what you mean, man. OS had some proper good atmosphere.

I love Ash's selfless acts the most in OS since they seem to have more emotional impact like when he willfully throws himself in front of bombs to save Squirle who prior to that did nothing but act like a dick to him and his friends.

But
>Posting her
What did you mean to post?

>>26283687
Eh I can sort of understand what you mean but nothing in that episode really matches the impact you get from Pikachu and Ash's friendship coming to life, if you get me.
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>>26283757
>That's one character trait we haven't seen yet. Having Ash call a companion or recurring character, Nee-san, Aniki, or Nee-sama.
That's really not in-character for him
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>>26283691
You alredy have serena
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>>26283748
fuck now I want this
>its her cousin
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>>26283778
He does go with -san at least.
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>>26282414
Only if XY&Z ends.
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>>26283785
>Ash's cousin this time
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>>26283777
>if you get me
No, I do. It's the first episode and it establishes the friendship between the two main characters, a friendship that's on display in every single fucking episode to follow it. It's not really possible to match that again, and I doubt they really want to try.
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>>26283777
>>Posting her
Oh. I meant to say here. Because I was going to post it in the other thread at first.
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>>26283778
I know, but having him legitimately idolize someone would be pretty cute. Like, he and another character get along so well that the older one tells him to consider her an Onee-chan and to call her Nee-san.

Shit would be great.

>We'll never hear Ash call Alexa or Cynthia Nee-chan
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>>26283806
The only recurring character I recall him using a name suffix for was Naoshi in DP, and that guy WAS twice his age.
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>>26283771
The list is actually quite accurate and captures all the "development" Amour has had.

Tell me, does Ash love Serena? Yes or No?
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>>26283806
Because that's the normal thing to do with strangers. He calls his companions without honorifics
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>>26283785
>Ash meets his lost cousin in kalos
>drags him to alola because she can't fit in just yet and maybe having someone familiar around will help her

Or

>Delia tell Ash that a cousin of his invited him over to alola
>cue in same scenario as above

Just send me a check Anime staff
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>>26283611
>krabby
>not very emotional
Nigger what?
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>>26283814
>Ash's father is a companion this time

>>26283806
Well, duh. What else is he going to use?
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I seriously hope the episode talk won't have this much shitpost
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>>26283703
Too early.
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Delete all of your Serena files, that would please the writers.
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>>26283840
It's pretty inaccurate there if all you do is post spaghetti and not about what happens in the episodes.
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>>26283854
It usually doesn't. Just hide the shitposts and ignore them, we got some decent discussion going here now.
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>>26283785
in the case serena actually comes along to alola
>before meeting her someone at the airport explain to them that people call each other cousin as a way of greeting
>meet her, ash presents her only by her name
>they openly calls each other cousin and act all close and familiar
>serena jealous as fuck for most of the season
>they think there is no need to explain since they already call each other cousin
I'm ok with this
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>>26283820
Well, it's not like they can have Ash get another first pokémon again. Unless they change protagonist...
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>>26283869
>someone at the airport explain to them that people call each other cousin as a way of greeting
what
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>>26283703
Is that Ash or newmale-kun?
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>>26283294
This kills the delusional hype train

>>26283854
If shota loses again..... well... that'll be very bad news for you, kohai
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https://vimeo.com/158637853

Forward to 14:30

This episode was the high point as far as poignancy goes. The absolute peak of the series.
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>>26283743
>>26283760
Right. Forgot about that.

It doesn't mean they'll ever start going for the japanese neet/hikikomori demography, though.
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>>26283861
>Not wanting Serena in your computer files
>inb4 Ash pls and variations
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It's the Kalos League Finals, one Pokemon remains for Ash and his opponent.

Who does Ash send out as his ace to clinch the championship?
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I remember posting a couple of months ago that I wished Ash next rival was his half-sister and that we finally learn about his father. Seeing how similar they look give me a little hope that my wish could come true.
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>>26283869
>group is Ash, Serena, Ash's female cousin and some random dude or Shota

I want this
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>>26283893
It's Goodra anon
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>>26283851
What emotional moments did Krabby get again? I don't remember anything of note.
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>>26283882
it isnt?
not from america so dont know shit about hawaii
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>>26283892
>implying that wasn't Ash telling everyone to delete the Serena folders so he'd be the only one with them
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>>26283883
Ash

See the cheekmarks
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>>26283887
>dub
It's better in nip
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>>26283851
no, the krabby episode just made me angry at OS
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I just want them to end Ash's journey on a high note this time. Serena winning him, him winning league and getting a conclusion in the end.

If ever it gets dragged unto the next region with serena, it would be another 3 years of ship bait.

If ever serena's gone well fuck my shit up.

I just want ash's journey to end and have a new mc. Chicken head would be nice
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>>26283907
COOKIE COOKIE
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>>26283913
Oh, right. Cute
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If Ash doesn't win this time it's pretty much settled that he'll never win a league, right?
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>>26283908
They use "cuz" "cousin" "bruddah" and what not. It's really a mix. I'm only talking about this because I went to Hawaii to visit a few years ago.
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>>26283907
I guess if you really want to reach the idea of Ash catching a pokemon and it seemingly disintegrating before his eyes immediately is kinda sad maybe.
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>>26283893
COOKIE COOKIE
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>>26283869
>Serena calls Luna cousin too because she thinks it is cultural
>Gets a weird look
>Convinced Luna hates her
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>>26283891
They might start pandering to it a little though. Actually they are doing it already with all the Serena teasing
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>>26283962
Oh, that. Well I guess you could call it emotional.
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>>26283887
>XY will never be this emotionally captivating
>ever
What went wrong?
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>>26283887
>they stole Team Rocket's balloon
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>>26283988
N was fujoshit bait
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>>26283893
why not rotate his full team between battles? so they can rest I mean
didnt Harrison lot because his blaziken was too tired from ash battle?
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>>26283942
Not, necessarily anon.
SB here.

I just want Ash to lose this league to proof his a mediocre trainer.

>>26283934
Aim for a timeskip. That's all I can say, and even that isn't sure.
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>>26281888
>implying Ash gives a fuck about using multiple Pokemon of one type

Look at the fucking OP image, 3 flying types.
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>>26283907
Did you not watch the first League?
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>>26284032
That was the games though and even then it was more with Hilda.

Setsuna F. Cilan though...
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>>26284040
Why would you want him to be proven a mediocre trainer? Also, lean to write in English you dumb shit.
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>>26284058
Guess I was thinking of a different kind of emotional moment.

Sorry fám.
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>>26284058
>>26283968
This wasn't even emotional desu

It was just cool
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We need a legit swimming/diving episode soon. even next season is soon enough.
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>>26284058
that's spoopy
imagine a real crab of that size
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>>26284040
>broken shit poster trying still
>>>/trash/
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>>26284065
Fujo magazines marketed his anime appearance hard.
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Seems like there's a pretty fun /a/ thread up right now

>>>/a/141395240
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>>26284070
>lean?

What does "lean" mean?

Ash is a mediocre trainer. He wastes his time travelling or helping out useless characters instead of training.
He's shit who can't do shit without plot armor or asspulls
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>>26284096
Fuck off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gykdWFrSrKM
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>>26284073
>ash leaping across the hazardous arena to hug kingler for beating the odds
It might not be among the top OS scenes but it certainly beats anything in XY as far as poignancy goes.
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>>26284118
>hazardous arena
lol
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>>26284115
Just die serena, just die
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>>26284106
Why?

>>>/a/141395240
>>>/a/141395240
>>>/a/141395240
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Is sushi dead?
Subs when?
>5 episodes behind.
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>>26284104
And you watch his adventures because you enjoy getting angry at him?
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>>26284118
(you)
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>>26284118
Actually that does sound pretty cool now that I think about it.
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>>26284136
Do you know what a hazard is, retard?

>>26284157
>i can't defend xy so i'll just shitpost
Thanks for saving me the trouble, idiot.
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>>26284144
Im doing it because of Alain
Also I like Serena very much.
I'm an amourshipper myself, but a realistic. My best shot is a timeskip
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>>26284170
>Do you know what a hazard is
yes?
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>>26284170
Not that water field shitpost-kun.
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cardsuit themed insect pokemon when
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>>26284173
No, you just shitpost to hell and back while you make shit up as you sudaca.
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And so, with a new friend and ally, and Misty close behind, Ash continues on his quest to become a Pokemon Master.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQhdwmfULX0
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>>26284173
The ball is in Serena's court. It always was.
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>>26284193
Not until time-speeding insect pokemon that change forme.
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>>26284183
Water is a hazard, especially for human beings, retard.
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>>26284118
poignancy
ˈpɔJnjənsi/
noun
noun: poignancy; plural noun: poignancies

the quality of evoking a keen sense of sadness or regret; pathos.

Hold up anon, I don't think Ash leaping to hug Kingler really counts as this.

Still a cool scene though.
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Well I'll see you all later when you are all done dealing with this crap
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>>26284209
I never even heard this play before.
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>>26284209
Another thing regarding the OS that people overlook is the charm. Everything from the OST, to the dialogue, to Ash's character development gave the show real heart.
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>>26284240
stop avatarfagging
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>>26283623
>Misty
>Okay
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Holy shit just learn to ignore him already.
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>>26284219
>Ninjask
>Shedinja is the CAST OFF pokemon gone sentient
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>>26284209
that sounds so...90s
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>>26284231
It can also mean touching.
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>>26284226
Go to sleep shyamalan you are drunk
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>>26284173
And the best way to show how much you like Serena and amour is shitposting on the anime thread of the Pokemon board on this japanese themed american imageboard?

Bullshit. At least I'll believe the Alan part.
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>>26284241
That's one way to admit you didn't watch the original series and that you're likely underage. That theme played in several epilogues.
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>>26284226
>Water is a hazard, especially for human beings
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>>26284265
did you even read to what he replied you fucking idiot?
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>>26284199
I'll win the shipping wars with any result.

If Serena's loses the Ashbowl, that'll prove my assertion that writers don't have any power and they just rest on decisions made by the high admnis who pursue the biggest profit.

If Serena's wins the Ashbowl, my inner amourfag will be extremely happy and that'll prove dreams can come true

Either way I can't literally lose, I've become smug, muggy of smugness
>>
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>>26284275
Alright then.
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>>26284309
Fuck off degenerate
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>>26284210
Until Ash takes the ball and curveballs it for her. Like he always has with her.
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>>26284173
I agree except for the time skip part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs
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>>26284294
>greentexting water is a hazard
Idiot.
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Ignore him.
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>>26284349
>he doesn't know how to swim and thinks water is a hazard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydZSuX2bzmI

Never ever in XY. Never ever.
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>>26284312
Millefeui pls
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>>26284285
I am.
As I said before, I'm realistic.


>>26284342
Indeed
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>>26284312
You already lost.
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>>26284368
Water is a hazard you stupid idiot. Not even a point in arguing this, you really are that stupid.
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>>26284392
will she come back?
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>>26284402
Hopefully. I need more smug in my life.
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>>26284393
You're not realistic, you just shitpost and bait especially when things don't go your way.
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>>26284312
Get off your high horses: in one case you would had won an argument on the internet, and in the other one you would had won a shipping argument on the internet.

In other words, you would had wasted your time trying to win an argument on an anonymous forum.
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>>26284292
Stop being such a fucking hostile faggot, I watched this over a decade ago.
Anyway, I remember this playing at the end of most episodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_peEZO6AjU
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>>26284402
I want to fuck her
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>>26284417
What the hell are you replying for? He's just shitposting for replies.
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>>26284422
Fuck off
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>>26284422
It's literally the same shit poster that calls everyone underage, idiot, and just about every term in the shit post lexicon.
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>>26284417
Why do people try so hard to defend Amour?
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>>26284393
It's your methods that make me doubt you.
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>>26284450
Nice non-sequitur bait-kun.
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Now I'm probably not going to get many agreements on this.

But I feel Misty is a mix of overrated and underrated.

Overrated by nostalgiafags who act like she's the best just because she was the first.

But also underrated because I think some people are blinded by the faggotry of the ones who overrate her and can't see she's a actually a pretty decent character, at least in my eyes.

I don't think Misty's bad at all in all honestly.
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>>26284118
cmon, he pulled attacks out of his ass, especially that hyperbeam
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>>26284399
This is bait but wow, a pool of water somehow being a hazard when it'd only be for people that can't swim. Ash knew how to swim, so it isn't a hazard.
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>>26284435
>anyone who discusses the original series is a shitposter
You're a shitposter too.
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>>26284417
So your point is?

>>26284414
Not true.
That's why I could see the next game would be a new gen and not in southern kalos.
I'm an INTP after all

>>26284435
Get out of my board


>>26284457
I was actually an amour extremist.
But people began to say writers were so based and they'd destroy the status quo
I said that wouldn't happen, and so Stalebaiter came out of existence
I still keep old episodes images
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>yfw SM's protag name is Millefeui
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>>26284482
She's bland for me because she's the byproduct of 90's tsundere girl spawned by the popularity of Akane from Ranma 1/2.

She lacks the class and interest pre-Akane tsundere characters like Jun from Gatchaman.
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>>26284482
Better than May, and objectively better than Iris I actually like Iris more, but admit she's generally less developed as a character

Dawn is still best though.
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>>26284482
Yeah, I think so too.
Was rewatching some of the old episodes and she's honestly a really great character, but she gets so much hate now because of retards who only like her because she's the only one they know, and people who dislike her just to spite them.
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>>26284081
Why do people have a fetish for drowning?
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>>26284499
Again, you're a really stupid idiot. Water is a hazard, it was specifically meant as a hazard in that arena and you don't decide what hazards are, because morons don't have that right.
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>>26284501
He wasn't referring to the OS discussion, faggot.
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>>26284517
It's completely true and t top it off you make shit up about yourself.
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>>26284524
>she's the byproduct of 90's tsundere girl
and you're an idiot for thinking this. You're the type of moron who thinks anyone who gets angry a lot must be a tsundere, which shows you don't even know what a tsundere is.
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>>26284527
But Iris developed more, is that was she has over Misty
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>>26284533
He's shitposting.
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>>26284524
Jun wasn't tsundere.
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>>26284532
Well, that explains why you don't know what hazards are then.
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>>26284209
>>26284382
>>26284482

Kys ya manlet nerd.
Please have sex
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>>26284528
I'm pretty sure most of the time Misty had an ok reason to be angry and sometimes it was Ash was at fault and although she sounded critical I think she just wanted to help him more often than not. I think Ash sometimes just thought she was challenging him or took out his frustration on her like that post league episode where she was just checking up on him and he got mad.

>>26284583
Only >>26284482 is me you faggot.

>manlet
>tfw 5'7
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>>26284550
>he doesn't know what 90's tsundere is

get a load of this faggot, his first anime is probably OS Pokemon

>>26284561
She is, but not to the popular tsundere meaning that came out in the 90's. She doesn't change her shit daily like she has some PMS.
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>>26284517
And basically, you got triggered by a bunch of faggots posting on 4chan and decided to shit up a general for 8 months until you had proven a point on 4chan.

Online quizzes might tell you whatever you want to, but they don't accurately measure autism.
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>>26283887
>kids crash into a city with an air balloon
Also at the end it shows Ash jumping hazards to get to Kingler.
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>This thread..
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Just stop replying to him. He's not hard to recognize.
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>>26284482
As a kid I saw her as a bitch when the episodes first aired. When I got to Japanese once I got older she was still kind of a bitch but just more of an attention whore.
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>>26284529
People either just like to see girls blushing hard and making weird faces (with their lives at stake), or they just like to imagine the feeling of water pressure. Either way is pretty fucked-minded, but I wouldn't judge.
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>>26284630
Watching the Japanese version makes it really clear how heavy the dub rewrote her.
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>>26284620
>Ash jumping hazards to get to Kingler
>hazards
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>>26284604
>And basically, you got triggered by a bunch of faggots posting on 4chan and decided to shit up a general for 8 months until you had proven a point on 4chan


Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
Yes, this long conflict has been to prove a point to this general
>>
Link to the Oha Suta trailer?
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>>26284524
>>26284602
Oh, trying to show off your knowledge on the history of classic and modern tsunderes?
Well too bad it doesn't really even work because Misty didn't like Ash like that.
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>>26284654
Which you didn't and instead it got proven against you and now you shitpost.

At least that anon was a winner unlike you.
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>>26284630
Yeah looking it back the original trio sucked, at least Ash got better.
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>>26284654
So?
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>>26284671
Says the guy that thought zygarde meant Pokemon Z
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>>26284620
>it shows Ash jumping hazards to get to Kingler.
This is what you were talking about the whole time?
He hops a single fucking floating platform to get to Kingler. He isn't even in danger of falling, let alone drowning.
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>>26284647
Yeah I got that much. Just really how Pokemon got rewritten in general.
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>>26284693
So I'll never give up until I accomplish my goal. Proving I'm right and the majority of /padt/ is wrong.
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>>26284663
Pls respond
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>>26284663
Here: >>26279153
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>>26284706
>That opponent trainer acting like a cocky faggot
>Just to get all 3 of his Pokemon BTFO'd by a Krabby who had never battled before
Fantastic
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>>26284701
>two pentagons for two games
>it means Z version
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>>26284687
This makes me happy.
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>>26284602
You don't know what a tsundere is, period.
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>>26284720
So?
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>>26284673
>at least Ash got better
Spotted the underage retard.
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>>26284650
fuck I didn't want to get involved in this but the water was a hazard for the fight in a way that it can damage or restrict a pokemon, in no way it's hazardous for ash but for example if a nonwater pokemon falls on it its done for good, like pushing/throwing a fire poke agains those rocks on the earth field, or the frozen floor on the ice field
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>>26284761
So you found a mirror.
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>>26284687
REEEEE
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>>26284527
May's more enjoyable overall.
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>>26284673
>Yeah looking it back the original trio sucked
No way, debatable whether it's as good as XY, but it hardly sucked. At least in the original everyone talked to each other.
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>>26284798
Still don't understand how someone can put May's anger levels at anything other than number one in terms of pokegirl companions.

I don't know how you can put Iris or Misty above her on that, they didn't showcase it as much as May did.
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>>26284687
;_; don't be cruel, anon
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>>26284777
m8, it's a type of field, not a hazard. You want an actual hazard, go look at Blaine's gym.
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>>26284669
hey tsundere doesn't automatically mean "like the character" though, especially in modern tsundere

>>26284741
nice comeback

I have a gut feeling you don't even know who Akane is
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>>26284780
I'm not the one who thinks an utterly empty, flat and past-it Ash is better. Sorry you're dumb enough to think he is.

Ash's flaws in the OS were what made him so engaging and relatable. All of that is gone in XY.
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>>26284687
Are you still posting this?
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>>26284687
Did you swipe this from deviant art or some facebook anime page or something?
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>>26284650
>updated version

thanks m8, I only have the one without build fighters
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>>26284834
You don't know what a tsundere is if you think Misty is one. That's all there is to it.
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>>26284853
It's from some Spanish facebook group I think.


But holy shit just ignore him already.
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>>26284858
you don't know tsundere if you think "it has to be someone who has a crush on the guy!"
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>>26284830
I doubt they put fucking murdering lava on a competition
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>>26284470
Why do people get so butt hurt about Amour getting criticized?
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>>26284877
Nowhere did I suggest this, moron.

Explain what a tsundere is and how Misty is one. Let's see your logic at work.
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>>26284650
He is literally jumping on unstable, slippery solid platforms. This is a hazard.

>>26284706
>single
Confirmed for not watched the anime.
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>>26284879
anon most recently they had a gym fight on top of a rock-climbing mountain without harness
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>>26284902
wtf, that is not the image I posted.
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>>26284817
If anything May's temper was basically better done than Misty's. Sometimes I almost feel like May was Misty's type of personality done right.
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>>26284902
>Confirmed for not watched the anime.
I LITERALLY JUST WATCHED THE EPISODE WHERE DO YOU THINK I GOT THE SCREENCAP FROM
He only goes across ONE platform to get to Kingler
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>>26284930
He's shitposting, just drop it.
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>>26284900
modern tsundere is a female character who always switches her attitude from liking the guy to "hating" the guy

liking can sometimes even be replaced to approachable in non-shipping groups

Misty is like that, at some points she is approachable but eventually can do a 180 in a moment's notice

>>26284930
the guy is an OS-wannabe
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>>26284836
You're talking as if Ash ever was a paragon of characterization. He wasn't. Not him, nor any past, present or future character.

OS wasn't some kind of masterpiece just because it had more slapstick than the formulaic seasons.
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>>26284940
>modern tsundere
>modern
>tsundere
Retard.
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>>26284940
>modern tsundere is a female character who always switches her attitude from liking the guy to "hating" the guy
This is not a tsundere and never was, you stupid newfag.
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>>26284996
well now I know you don't know the trend change of tsundere in the 90s
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>>26284996
Not him, but what are you even talking about?
Surely you know the difference between Classic and Modern Tsundere before trying to argue about Tsundere, right?
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>>26285010
There was no trend change, idiot. Tsundere has always been a single archetype, you've just completely misunderstood what they are.
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>>26285028
>he doesn't know how trends changed archetypes
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>>26285033
>shitposters ever knowing what they're talking about
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>>26285024
>Classic and Modern Tsundere
No such thing, you stupid retard. I don't care if you were him or not, if you think there are two different definitions of a tsundere, you're stupid.

The only difference between "classic" and "modern" are the times they were made.
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>>26284930
>watched the episode
>at the same time couldn't see shit
Nigger, watch the rest of the episode. Also, tell me how he is not in danger of falling.
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>>26285033
>changed archetypes
My god you're an idiot.

If an archetype changes, it becomes a different archetype. The meaning of tsundere never changed. You. Stupid. Idiot.

>>26285044
>wwwwaaaaaaaahhhh shitposters
Cry me a river, dumbfuck.
>>
He's extremely easy to recognize. He's just here to shitpost and bait. Don't try arguing with him, you just end up derailing the thread, which is exactly what he wants..
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>>26285033
>changing a definition
This is called misconception, or misunderstanding.
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>>26284850
Why not? I mean look at these
>>26281788
>>26281859
>>26282081
>>26282284
>>26282654

It's just the same on the opposite direction.

>>26284873
Sounds wise.
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>>26285051
>https://vndb.org/i365
>This character is a classic tsundere.

>Tsundere is a Japanese character development process which describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing their warm side over time. This change of behavior is permanent, and that's where the classic tsundere type is different form the modern tsundere.

https://vndb.org/i218
>This character is a modern tsundere with two personalities, hostile and lovestruck.

>A variation of the tsundere personality type which has the tsundere character switch between hostile and lovestruck personalities often, which is in contrast to the classic tsundere type where the change is gradual and permanent.

It's always the ones who are uninformed and only think they know what they're talking about that are first to call names.
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>>26285091
Keep the tears flowing you pathetic little cretin. Not everyone's going to participate in your miserable meta circlejerk.
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>>26285091
Anime was a mistake. Humanity was not ready for it yet.
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>>26282670
On XY however Calem had a hair color and Serena another. What's strange is that they didn't go with a darker skin color for either.
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>>26285117
You've been sitting here arguing with a troll who's being wrong on purpose to bait you into replying. Stop it.
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>>26285117
>visual novel databade
>in charge of defining what a tsundere is
You can't make this shit up. You're literally as idiotic as they come.
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>>26284729
Thanks bro. They're hiding what happens to Ash and Greninja pretty well.

Now I shall take my leave, for all the usefulness of this thread have been used and one of you can only argue about the dangers of Ash falling into the water and drowning despite him knowing how to swim.
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>>26283426
Then again Serena started her journey because of the Ash d, what will be more important to her?
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>>26285143
database*

>>26285141
Keep the crying up, idiot. You're just further proving what a miserable cunt you are.
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>>26285065
Then you don't know what trends are.

>>26285117
like I said their first anime is probably OS, or worse, Evangelion
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>>26285172
>he thinks trends shape how an archetype is defined
This is precisely why you're an idiot. Idiots never learn.
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>>26285172
Stop replying to him.
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>>26285195
>reusing posts

yikes, looks like he is a troll

>>26285203
yeah my bad, I didn't notice the change of posting, and he didn't even provide his own argument

will ignore his advances like a leaper from those bible stories
>>
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>>26285216
You misspelled "PokeShipping" there. Maybe you should return back to kikebook.
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>>26285117
So, I can quote Bulbapedia bullshit and you will eat it up?
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>>26285215
There's nothing to argue, you literally don't know what a tsundere is and you're clearly an idiot.
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>>26285267
Dont cry anon, its just a joke
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I get it! Serena will leave and AmourShipping won't happen but you don't see me getting salty about it!
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>>26285339
Anon, but you already are.
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POKEMON
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4 hours, right?
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>>26285372
5
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>>26285384
I meant for eggs
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>>26285371
POKEMON
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>>26285117
>They have a different term for a more hostile version of tsundere
What is this bullshit.
>>
WAKE UP LUNASHIPPING IS THE NEXT AMOURSHIPPING
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>>26285407
GETTO DAZE
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>>26281740
>[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.
More like they might ever happen again.
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>>26285339
>implications: the post
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BWJg7Ovnec&index=22&list=PLQETatREwfAots1QivW7SGj-zRJffYrsB

This is the most adorable ED I've ever heard.
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>>26285423
They're gonna learn the hard way when XY&Z ends.
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>>26285423
Satoshi + Luna = ChickenShipping
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>>26285446
It's the ending in the Kanto episodes PM is currently at
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>>26285423
>>26285448
Implying pretty hard there.
>>
>tfw pearlshipper
Us and the Pokeshippers have been saving some cake for you at our pity party Amourshippers
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>>26285423
This
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>>26285423
You're just saying this because you're mad Diode didn't happen because Amour's been shutting id down, aren't you?
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>>26285511
What is he looking at?
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>>26285423
So you're saying you're going to ship the male protag with the female one from the SM games? I mean it could be the next Amourshipping if they make the story similar.
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>>26285565
A Jigglypuff seen from above.
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>>26285620
What is the Jigglypuff doing?
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>>26285423
>>26285511
Because Serena becomes 'Luna'
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>>26285648
Rollout.
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Get in here, then:
>>26285643
>>26285643
>>26285643
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>>26285510
Shame it's a subplot and not Pokeshipping or Pearlshipping.
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>>26285448
Sure anon.
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