>DURR HURR the owl starter is Grass/Flying! >it's

>>26251927
What world do you live in where Shaymin is not shit?

Serene grace seed flare flinch hax

>>26251927
You picked the worst pokemon defend the owl. At least use swampert as he also has a 4 times weakness.

Hurrr the owl is going to have 600 BST and a good ability

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>JUST BECAUSE IT'S GRASS/FLYING DOESN'T MEAN IT'LL BE SHIT GUYS LOOK AT SHAYMIN HURRR DURR
>As long as it has legendary bst, minmaxed stats, and perfect ability to compliment the perfect moves

Starters always have a good base stat total, and Nintendo has been trying to make them all good competetively, like the last gen.

>>26252221
Only greninja was good last gen

>>26252221
Yeah I'm sure they thought Magician was going to be a really competitive ability for Delphox

>>26252136
tropius is shit because it's slow as fuck. that' literally the only thing that keeps it from being a decent subseeder

>>26252407
A subseeder is a shit role to begin with, and being a "decent" one makes it pretty low on the totem pole. If you genuinely think Tropius would be a good pokemon even if it had base 150 speed and kept everything else then whatever.

>>26251962
The one where it's Uber

>>26252480
why is a subseeder a shit role? at least it would be usable. tropius currently isn't even minimally usable, not even in PU or FU or even if they created a tier after that.

>>26252407
If it was faster it'd be a pretty gud Dragon Dancer

prove that it will even be grass/flying. you can't. only the first form is grass/flying

grass/psychic confirmed for final form

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>>26251927
This
>muh grifty gabbro

Roothoot has the potential to be great. We still don't know it's final stats, movepool, or hidden ability, so we can't make any judgments about its viability right now.

>>26253373
What you can judge is the hoops it'll take to make it good, though. You can't honestly say a grass type has equal chance of being good compared to, say, a dragon-type or even a fairy-type.

>>26253173
still needs a decent physical flying stab