No one seems to like the new Water starter. Will it eventually

>>26238203
Froakie was liked since its reveal newfag, this abortion is oshawott level of retardness.

doubtful, unless you like bipedal seal-clowns.

They all seem equally popular this time around.

I like it.

>not wanting a seal that trolls the shit out of everyone with suffocation balloons

The seal looks 10x better than the cat desu

Owl looks better than both though

>>26238203
all of them are great, it's just that I like Litten better

I was froakie since day one,

>>26238203
I like him and he's going to be the first Water starter I pick.

>>26238203
I like all the starters a lot actually and I think water starter has the best name. Popplio is goofy as shit and I love it.

>>26238463

lol no popularity is Litten > owl >> Seal

I honestly love its design. But i'm partial to water types myself

>>26239017
It's actually Rowlet>Litten>Polio
http://www.strawpoll.me/10175454/r

I think it has a cool theme.

I feel the later evos would break or save it.

better question:

which one will Ash get?

>>26239298
Popplio for sure, the new girl will have Rowlet.

I'm partial to water types, so Poppolio is at the top of my list right now. It's an okay design, better than Oshawott imo, but still one of my least favorite water starters. Hopefully the final evolution will be kickass.

>>26238203
Why does the seals nose look like a penis?

I like it, but not as much as I like the owl (way better than fake owl desu).

While the fake fire starter looked like a turd, the cat is pretty mediocre too.

It all depends on the final evos, but currently I'll likely pick Rowlet

>>26239367
I was thinking Popplio would be more suited to be the joke mon of the region that doesn't evolve
(Corphish, Piplup, Oshawott, Chespin).

Personally I think he'll get Rowlett

The ugliest starter always becomes the best and the nice starter becomes ugly (see froakie, or chespin and tepig that become ugly)

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I work as a clown, so excited to see a clown Pokemon that isn't wierd Mr mime.

>>26238203
I mean, I sorta like it. Its design is kinda weird, but I don't think it's awful.

>>26239237
This.

It has great potential. I'm really curious as to what it will evolve into. The evolutions will be the deciding factor for me between Rowlet and Popplio. I really can't choose between them.

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It's gonna take a whole redesigned final evolution to make that clown hat it's got for a nose look good.

>>26238463
No, Owl is clearly more popular

Just going by the fan art, Litten is the run-away favorite thus far. 90% of the fan art of just one of the trio is Litten. Feels like the only time I see Rowlet and Popplio is when an artist draws all three together in one picture.

>>26239367
definitely Buizel 2.0
girl will get Cat

>>26238203
Damn son, who drew that?

>>26238203
Froakie was ruined by its final form, OP.

>>26239803
oh boy I wonder why this pokemon with clown-like mannerisms looks like a clown

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>>26239803
i can see these two broing out

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>>26238315
I was there, and I can confirm Froakie was the most disliked started since day one. Everyone was rooting for the Chespin because of hipsters and others were adoring Fennekin because MUH FURRY WAIFU.

> mfw there were people calling Froakie ugly

I always pick the water starter and I'm dissapointed with this one.

>>26240101
That doesn't make it less of a retarded and objectively bad design decision.

I hope they take the design like to absurd clown levels. Not all Starter pokemon need to look badass

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>>26240283
>having clown features on something intended to be a clown is an "objective" bad decision

/vp/ is getting dumber everyday

I hope this guy grows a frill shaped like a circus tent just to piss you off

>>26240310
What if the clown looks intimidating?

Not Steven Kings 'IT' levels, but wacky enough to be a clown, but tough enough that you wouldn't mess with it.

Froakie was always a close second up until it seized first after we saw the final forms, and Chespin was always dead last, its fans were just the loudest.

>>26240220
>tfw I only liked Froakie at first because it was the least popular
>tfw contrarian hipster
>tfw Froakie turned out to be the GOAT

I'm still laughing.

>>26240379
Like what, writing DAMAGED on its forehead?

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>sister likes them all and can't decide which she wants to choose
>I don't like them and struggle to decide which I dislike least
I suppose the cat, because I don't like the dick-beak on the owl or the clown nose on the seal, but I don't want to be an edgy furfag.

>>26240619
Just box it. I did it with BW and I had a great time

>>26240654
I don't know, I'll have to see the evolutions and decide whether they're enough to convince me to change my mind.

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>>26240428
Oh, the meltdown was glorious.

> Fennekin win the second Evo race because MUH LOLIS
> Greninja wins the final Evo race because Delphox failed to be Gardevoir 2.0 in the eyes of furfags and only barafags liked Chestnaugh
> Greninja wins the hidden ability race by a mile
> Greninja wins the smogon race
> Froakie wins the Ash starter race
> Froakie breaks tradition and becomes Ashs only evolved water starter
> Greninja gets in Smash
> Greninja rides the posterboy train for a good while

Yeah, still laughing too.

>>26240726
I am not satisfied enough with Greninja being the best. Shitnaught and Shitphox must suffer more.

Give Greninja a OP mega, and Shitnaught and Shitphox trash tier megas. That will be the ultimate satisfaction.

>>26239803
That is not supposed to look a clown hat.
Stop spreading this shit before the whole board believes it.

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>>26240796
Smash did it for me.
He will be remembered and relevant for a good while.

>>26240539
I mean, I'd accept it

>>26240864
Honestly, I just want the Chespin and Fennekin lines retconned so that Greninja don't have to be associated with pure trash ever again.

>>26240940
Hey now chespin and chesnaught are cool. No comment on quilladin, braixen and delphox

>>26241108
Braixen isn't bad. It just got perverted by furfags. Delphox is a triangular abomination though.

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>>26240283
Contrary to popular belief, many people DO use the word Objectively in a proper way. You are not one of them.

Objectively bad design in this case would be having the seal be inspired by Clowns, yet not having any clown features. I don't even like the seal, but that doesn't mean it's a shit design, it's merely a pretty ridiculous one that i can't take seriously.

>>26241108
Chespin is shit and Chesnaught is a fucking abomination.

I am sill hopeful that Chesnaught and Delphox gets nerfed and Greninja gets buffed to teach Chesnaughtfags and Delphoxfags who their betters are.

Who the fuck is the artist now, why are they hiring whoever it is to turn out this garbo. I dont understand pokemon had a specific artstyle , they couldn't fucking copy it?
Its so different that the older pokemon look like they are from another game now.
Its getting worse and worse.
They couldn't fucking copy or learn the style?

>>26241283
All Pokemon art is finalized by the same guy

>>26241206
Contrary to what you believe, you don't use the word objectively properly.

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>>26241108
>>26241166

I like Delphox because, unlike the typical /vp/ user, I don't want to fuck it, I just see a badass fire witch/wizard.

>>26241432
Please explain further. I would love to hear why the statement is wrong.

>>26239298
I think poplio or rowlett. Idk who will get litten though

I really like Popplio, even if he has nothing on Litten.
It's the owl who's lame out of these 3.

>>26241525
That's why I liked Braixen, but I hated how static Delphox looked compared to the fan art.

>>26241595
I just wish they reduced the length of its "fur dress", that would help a lot.

Popplio > All.

Ya'll niggas gay.
Litten is the literal basicbitch dark and edgy "AWW FIREKITTY" choice.

and fuckin grass bird is cool, but popplio is literally a bro.

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>>26238203
>people don't like Popplio
Why?

I like them all desu

>>26238203
Froakie was the favorite. People hated Fennekin for its fat head (until Bryan got revealed)

>>26238203
Outside of /vp/ tons of people are loving Popplio, I actually really like it too, it has plenty of personality in terms of official artwork so far and has a lot of potential.

>>26241736
It's like a water puppy. What's not to love?

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First form starter ranks:
Kanto > Hoenn = new region >>>>>> Johto > Sinnoh >>>>>> Unova >>>>> Kalos

>>26238203
I betting the final evolution will be some sort of Water/Psychic circus ringmaster

>>26241933
But I think Rowlet is the ringmaster, with his little bowtie, anon. The cat is a tiger jumping through rings of fire, and a show seal.

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>>26241736
Can someone post the Litten one please?

>>26241933
>>26241933
Water/Psychic is something I thought of too, using it's mind to "juggle" or what have you. But the grass starter is the one with the bowtie. I'm thinking that's the ringleader if any of them are.

>Grass ringleader
>Water clown
>Fire cannonball

>>26240072
Still waitin' on that artist name.

Seal looks like shit. That nose urgh

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>>26242043

>>26241916
alola you weeb

>>26241985
So let me get this straight?
>Unova had themes of Royality with French, Chinese and Japanese
>Kalos had themes of Japanese RPG classes with Warrior, Wizard and Rogue
>Now Aloha has theme of the Circus with the Ringmaster, The Beast jumping through Flames, and the Performing Ball Seal

>>26242064
You look like shit. Take your onomatopoeia cringe back to tumblr.

>>26242078
>>26242091
Thanks lads.

>>26242102
Yes.

>>26242055
>>Grass ringleader
>>Water clown
>>Fire cannonball

Absolutely disgusting

>>26242055
No. See: >>26242102

>>26238203
Its a stupid circus clown

>>26238203
It's a fucking circus seal
What's not to love?

>>26242173
The cat is covered in oil and has a tail shaped like a bomb wick. "Guy being shot out of a cannon" is just as big of a circus trope.

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>>26240220
>>26240428
>>26240726
I think Greninja spoiled me. I was always used to having unpopular bros, so when people were booing Froakie, i dealt with it and payed it no mind. But then Greninja became one of the most popular pokemon ever and landed himself in all the right spots. I don't think i'll ever feel as much hype for anything as i did when he was revealed for Smash anymore. He had already become my favorite pokemon and i deperately wanted him in smash, but i thought it was literally impossible due to time constraints. I was fully mindblown when it actually happened. It feels so incredible.

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>>26242184
>he doesn't like cool, stylized clowns

>>26242270
Charizard bro here. I know how you feel. It feels good.

Froakie was and is shit. Greninja is fucking awesome.

>>26242248
I think it's both.

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>>26242248
>The final evolution uses explosive moves to launch himself into his opponent.

Basically he becomes this lovable asshole.

>>26242374
How odd, I've never somebody love Greninja but hate Froakie before.

>>26242102
>Rowlet gets a cute tophat at its final evo
>Litten gets a fire hoola hoop/main around its neck
>Pooplio is a goofy-ass clown with the big pants and shoes
I really hope Popplio's evos surprise me. I want a cool clown and not something lame

>>26242508
I immediately thought they all looked like shit. I honestly thought Fennekin was the most passable of the bunch, but of course its evolutions are pure titanium cancer. Quilladin is shit, and Chesnaught is pretty cool. Frogadier and Greninja I'd probably put in the same tier of greatness.

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>>26242374
Shut your mouth, son. The entire Froakie line is awesome.

>>26242572
>>Rowlet gets a cute tophat at its final evo
>>Litten gets a fire hoola hoop/main around its neck
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AWFUL IDEAS, KILL YOURSELF

>>26242572
I hope he becomes like some sort of awesome harlequin jester.

>>26238203
As with every release, it's
>people who always choose fire regardless (also furfags)
>the meme one that everyone loves
>the shit one hipsters love

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>>26242575
The problem I have with Greninja is the tongue. Not only does it look weird but I keep having intrusive thoughts about it getting bit with a crunch attack or falling into a cow pie while traveling

It wasn't until I noticed the shiny allowed me to make a referential joke to a show I liked that started to like it

>>26242600
If his eyes were different, I'd like it. I really hate those rabbit-ear eyes. It looks like a complete autist.

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>>26239179
>Rowlet segment and bar are blue
>Popplio segment and bar are green

>>26242713
I'm sure he can suck it back in his mouth real quick, anon.

>>26238315
How can you fuck up a seal. Gamefreak manages to do it time and time again.

>>26242778
Yeah, but at that point, why even have it out all the time anyways? I understand that its too mature to keep the bubbles, but I wish they found another way to represent the ninja scarf

>>26239703
How many kids have you traumatized, anon

>>26242864
I'm completely with you, and I kind of agree that it's a weird choice, but I think the end result looks good so I can totally curb my autism

>>26242801
spheal is cool

Water final forms are always top tier.

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>Water is SE against Fire, so Popplio > Litten already
>Most Water types learn Ice type moves, and Rowlet's Grass / Flying type is 4x weak to Ice

WATER WINS AGAIN

>>26243022
>Samurott

eh, 5 out of 6 aint bad

>>26240220

>I can confirm with my anecdotal bullshit

Shut the fuck up. All of the starters got an equally lukewarm reception. Then Greninja dominated ever since being leaked.

>>26238203
>tfw you like it

>>26242270
>Implying the Froakie line wasn't deemed to be automatically the most popular one as soon word got out of him possibly being a NINJA

Nigga please, people didn't even know what on earth he'd turn himself into until word got out. Ninjas are fucking big everywhere.

Who the hell do you think won in the Barbarians vs Ninjas Splatfest popularity wise?

Certainly not Barbarians and they only won in the end against the Ninja side due to the bad players influx in contrast to the Barbarian side, this shit happens every time, popular side hardly never wins.

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>>26242713
>>26242864
For one, he can actually unravel and retract the tongue, as it has been shown in multiple media. I think it's mostly seen scarfed because it's the way most people are used to seeing it.

In terms of ninja scarf representation, i think it makes perfect sense. Most people tend to forget that his tongue is an actual part of his body which he can control. Not only does it add the common red-ish scar color in ninjas, but this scarf isn't merely a piece of cloth; It is fully prehensile, insanely strong, retractable and combat ready, therefore making even more sense overall. You just need to see it as an actual limb. You wouldn't say legs are useless because you can theoretically step on shit, trip on a rock or have them be vulnerable to injury. And to Greninja using his tongue has got to be as natural as it is for use to use our arms.

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>>26241166
>Shitting on such a beauty

Must be hard to not have any taste.

>>26243305
Please Mr Revisionist, DO show me any big pre-September 2013 poll where Froakie wasn't dead last in terms of Starter choice. I'll be waiting.

Oh wait, there's none. That's because people started giving him a chance when the much reviled Quilladin was revealed and Frogadier became a more acceptable choice. Then Greninja was revealed and literally everyone jumped ship.

>>26240726
I'm not a barafag but I do like Chesnaught's design
The Knight motif just sold it for me

>>26242283
Actualy no, I hate clowns, to me he's already the worst starter ever by default, dont care if his last evolution looks cool

>>26242374
Agreed on the both, Popplio is both the ball juggling seal & clown, Litten is tiger jumping through hoop & cannonball, Owlet is a straight up ringmaster (maybe trapese artist too later, gets Acrobatics)

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>>26242915
He's a sea lion, not a seal, sea lion's have ears

>>26241736
Fear of clowns

>>26238203
Froakie looks to retarded and is only redeemed by that bubble shit being removed in it's final form (the tounge is only slightly less stupid). This water starter just looks goofy, but, not retarded. However like chespin things could get worse.

>>26243416
Dog/10

I actually think this is the most neutral I've ever been on first evo starter preference.

Need to see the rest for a tie break.

>>26244026
>Hates Froakie
>Think CHespin got worse
Can you tell me other opinions you have? I want to make sure I don't have similar ones/shitty taste.

>>26244275
Chespin did worse we its mid form, but saved itself in the final

>>26238203
What do you mean no one? It's my favorite so far

>>26243830
I remember when we thought Oshawott was going to be either a clown or a snowman

>>26244318
>Chespin got bad with its mid form, and got even worse the final evo
Fixed it for you.

>>26238203
i lika popplio

I like all three starters. Then again, the only starters I don't like are Samurott and Meganium and I wouldn't say I even hate those two either.

>>26240220
Froakie was being shit on from the start, i didn't understand that at all. Now look at everyone with their fucking Greninja. Still using my level 100 timid max satk/sp Froakie.

>>26238203
I love the water starter

>>26243515
>The first line

I ain't denying THAT, I was there through the whole show.

And now that I remember, even when Frogadier was revealed, people weren't entirely sure what he would turn out to be while as Quilladin was already obvious to turn into a total tank. When Greninja was finally revealed... people thought of it as a fake IIRC, but by name alone, there were already ninja motifs behind it, they were slightly hesitant over the tongue detail however.

>Ditching your main pick over its last evolution

A true patrician sticks to its choice until the very end.

>>26244465
Froakie was the most popular from the start. It was Chespin who was the least popular of the three and got shat on (and deservingly so). Please stop trying to rewrite history.

>>26239803
What if its eyes are actually those little slits above its mouth and the eyes on the head r just design like orcas

>>26240370
Clowns are fucking ugly, anon.

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>>26242870
I'm a girl clown so not really scary, more strawberry shortcake than bozo. I know some weirdo old ones tho.

>>26244606
Well, good this this series is called Pocket MONSTERS and not Pocket Abercrombie & Fitch

>>26244672
They're ugly in the way a pink and yellow polkadot suit is, not ugly the way a monster is. Offensive to the eyes.

At first I hated popplio but for some reason its growing on me now... If it doesn't evolve to some sort of hideous, giant clown sea lion, I'll pick it.

>>26241525
>Says he doesn't want to fuck it
>Posts picture with massive tits

>>26244661
Why did you want to be a clown

>>26244661
You are my fetish

>>26240220
Lawrence liked him

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>>26238315

>mfw this water starter evolves into a large otter.

>>26243416
Water dog/7

>>26244846
It's a SEA LION. If anything, it'll evolve into a beachmaster.

>>26244759
that isn't a boob that's just an unfortunate alignment of fur on the sleeve and torso

I was unhappy with it on first impressions but the more I see it, the more it grows on me.
It's definitely passed the threshold of mentally recognizing it as a pokemon and faster than the other two did, even though I like them both more.
I was committed to the water type this gen though so it's a good thing, I guess. My main problem really is more what it's not than what it is.
Kind of the same with the female trainer. I like her and she's really cute, but she's not a stand-out design that's really appealing to me like Hilda and Serena were.

>>26244846
It'll evolve into a slim water/fighting clown thing.

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>>26244773
Cause I get paid $100 an hour. It's fun too, not like circus clown, just for events, balloon, face paint and magic stuff. I did balloons at a Pokemon convention awhile back, made a cool suicune.

>>26244988
>a clown will be more of a fighting type than a samurai
I wonder how Samurottfags would react to that.

>>26240220
Chespin was not the hipster choice. Everyone loved it because it was (and is) fucking adorable.

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>>26245180
YOU HAVE BREATHED YOUR LAST

>>26245180
Do weapons count as fighting type? Isn't it more for unarmed combat?

>>26245220
Anon, you're delusional. Chespin was constantly shit on.

>>26245220
Except that everyone shat on it because it looked like Oshawott. Again, stop it with your historical revisionism.

>>26245180
Samurott is perfect the way he is thank god hes not biped.

>>26240539
I got that reference.

>>26245301
In terms of base stage popularity it went

Fennekin>Chaspin>Froakie

>>26240619
Might as well kill yourself.

>>26245486
Wrong, it was Froakie>Fennekin>Chespin.

>>26245486
There were literally tons and tons of fanart of Chespin being mistreated by people or the other starters.

>>26245077
any thoughts on juggalos?

Which one will become the fap idol for furfags?

>>26245623
Cat duh

>>26245623
The cat. Furries basically go fox > cat > wolves > other mammals > reptiles > birds

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>>26245525
Were you born 2 years ago, idiot? Froakie was definitely not the most popular starter upon reveal.

>>26245684
You must be the one born two years ago then, because Froakie was consistently number one on the popularity polls before Frogadier was revealed.

>>26245650
its just we don't know which one of them will become more like human. No one knew that fennekin will become bipedal slut with huge hips and lewd look in the eyes.

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>>26245728
Is this bait?

>>26245766
It was already a fox

I hope not. If Poppilo doesn't stay wacky and dumb looking I'll be upset.

Seal is the best starter, anyway. Owl is whatever and if you like the cat I don't want to know you.

>>26245677
>Chimchar was the sex idol of gen 4
Doubt.

>>26245806
You're the one trying to bait people into believing that Froakie was some kind of poor victim, when that's blatantly false and untrue.

>>26238203
> as was Froakie with its final form?
This is a joke, right? No-one actually likes that fucking tongue scarf?

>>26245869
He's right, few people liked froakie until evos came out

>>26245850
I did say basically, anon. Furries really fucking hate apes, so they're at the bottom of the list below insects and fish.

>>26245941
What an extreme self-loathing

>>26245921
Maybe on /vp/ few people liked Froakie. Everywhere else, it was entirely different.

>>26241166
>It just got perverted by furfags.
Did you even SEE Pokken? Its basically lollifag bait.

Why did people hate Oshawott exactly? I thought the 1st and 2nd stages were fine, but I disliked Samurott so much I refused to evolve my Dewott.

What was wrong with Oshawott as a starter? I was shitting on Snivy around that gen.

>>26245965
Yeah, I think it's the product of the crazy ones thinking humans are ugly. You'll seem them ranting about it sometimes. It's funny and disgusting.

>>26245985
It just has a goofy look
I like it, but I like Tepig more

>>26245984
what is pokken

>>26245985
It looks like a clown. And as the Japanese have yet to realize, clowns are actually fairly unpopular in the west now.

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>>26245869
You are literally retarded. Froakie was last in every poll before Greninja.

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?594363-Starter-Speculation-Discussion-Thread

See that? Froakie was behind Chespin by nearly 200 votes. Greninja got announced a bit before a V2 of the thread was released and not only did he catch up to Chespin:

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?617734-Starters-Discussion-Thread-v2

THEN he started winning every poll.

>>26246019
Pokemon Tekken
Featuring maybe 5 fight types and 15 everything else (2 pikachus).

>>26243416
Much better.

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>>26241577
Litten looks like a edgy oc, Poopplio is inflation bait, Rowlet looks like it could be a Gen 1 pokemon with a simple yet versatile design.

>>26243481
>cancer in a dress
die

>>26246071
>Serebii

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>>26245870
Have you been living under a rock, buddy? He's the new Charizard. Pic related is the biggest Popularity Poll in japan yet.

>>26246115
I'm holding out hope for Litten's evolution, because grass/flying is a godawful typing.

>>26246132
Every other major poll had the same results. You wanted evidence and i gave it to you, which is more than your revisionist ass has done so far.

>>26246138
>Arceus
>Popular
What? I don't think llama god is an ugly pokemon, but how is it ranking in popularity polls?

>>26246071
Then why was Froakie the most picked starter when the games came out and few normalfags knew what Froakie's final evolution would be? Remember that Greninja was only officially revealed on the same day as the game release or a little later (Memory's a tad blurry on that I must admit, but Greninja was definitely not revealed before the game release)

I definitely remember japanese polls where Froakie was number one before Greninja was revealed. Meanwhile, Chespin got compared to Oshawott, who's severely unpopular. In other words, stop trying to make Froakie out to be unpopular before Greninja's existence was confirmed.

>>26238203
That art style looks familiar. Do they do porn?

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>>26246138
>Arbok

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>>26246138
So when are we going to get the entirety of Naruto redone with Greninja?

>>26246138
Japan has shit taste, more at 11.

>>26246343
The only here who got shit taste is you, chesnaughtfag.

>>26239703
used to work as a clown too, great money when you live in a predominantly mexican area. they love clowns.

>>26246255
You underestimate normalfags, stuff gets reposted where they'll see it. Fucking facebook and twitter, anon

>>26246243
I'm told this was a poll for what pokemon they wanted given out in an event, that's why there's so many legendaries

Though I'm not sure what magnemite, arbok, and armaldo are doing there

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>>26246243
In popularity polls in Japan, the winner tends to get distributed on Wi-Fi events, so many vote for intentionally rare legendaries so that htey can have a chance at getting them. Many people are actually mad that Greninja's winning because they want actual rare pokes to be distributed. I believe Arceus won the last poll. Greninja's awesome though, so i don't mind him winning.

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>>26246138

>Arbok
>Archeops
>Magnemite
>Armaldo
>Regigigas

I'm pleasantly surprised.

>>26246367
Most normalfags tend to stick with their initial choice, which would be Froakie in this case.

>>26246382
>>26246413
Ah, there we go. Of course people would want event legendaries for events and kids would think 'God' is the best for an event.

>>26246138
>zygarde

What

>>26246138
???

We sure this isn't a poll where they regard pokemon for distribution because damn that's a lot of legendaries.

>>26246138
>biggest Popularity Poll
it was an event distribution poll, not a popularity poll

>Froakie wasn't popular
>Froakie was too

>People forget the time where Froakie was quite literally the hipster choice and kept associating him as a total pimp regardless

>Fennekin: Furries' choice, we all knew it was going downhill from here and even though Delphox is a total trainwreck, furries still manage to find the middle stage fuckable
>Or alternatively; the magic appreciator pickers who found themselves in the worst fanbase, may god bless them
>Chespin: The one choice everyone thought would be Oshawott Type G 2.0 which turned out to be true in the anime but then saw Quilladin and dropped him like the poor rock he was, very few remained true fans, the light-hearted, chill pick calm people would generally go for, doesn't give a fuck about how he looks to other people, those who stayed for him found him adorable at best for his traits
>Or alternatively; the one pick everyone wanted him to be a total tank (which they did, except on the whole stat thing) and still find him adorable, barafag or not and also those who likes his concept of knights
>Froakie: The hipster choice. Oh shit he looks so cool look at that chill stance and chill look in his eyes oh shit he wears his tongue like he ain't nothing, look at this bamf slicing niggas with WATER he so sneaky he so real he pimpin'
>Or alternatively; the Naruto fans who always wanted a ninja frog, the girls who like it slick and wet, the ones who like to be smooth and want a pokemon as smooth as them

>>26246957
The Froakie line is the most popular. You can't be 'hipster' if you're doing what's actually popular, being a hipster is about seeing someone unpopular and pretending you're cool for liking it.

So basically Chespin fans are hipsters.

>>26246720
It was a "Choose your Favorite Pokemon!" poll that was accesible to everyone. You could even vote through the anime, so i'm sure there were lots of kid votes. Only Manchildren that wanted to rek their friends with Arceus actually cared to vote for legendaries instead of their faves.

>>26247126
Chespin was always the hipster's choice. Always. I am not sure why people are trying to claim otherwise. After all, when Chespin is the designated punching bag of the Kalos starters, you can't claim Chespin is anything but that.

>always pick water
>always end up with the best starter
I'm a little tired of winning desu

>>26247126
>>26247346

Actually, Froakie fans WERE hipsters until the whole Quilladin thing blew over. Then he was quite literally, the most obvious popular choice. There was a transition. Chespin was by default, one of the most popular picks because everyone thought he'd be Oshawott. Then Quilladin happened. Many people who were by Chespin's side suddenly found themselves either transitioning to Fennekin or Froakie because they were afraid of what he'd might turn into.

Then again, I'm going by memory, so don't trust me on this one.

>>26247657
>Chespin was by default, one of the most popular picks because everyone thought he'd be Oshawott
No he wasn't. He was extremely unpopular. Just like Oshawott was unpopular before his evolutions were revealed. Only for Chespin, things just got worse until Chesnaught.

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this is the best starter and i cannot wait for his clown themed evos
clowns are so cool desu

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>>26247657
>Mfw smug, self-righteous Chesfags all shut up and went to the corner when Quilladin was revealed

I actually ended up liking Chesnaught.

>>26238523
The only person with good taste around here.

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>>26247892
>clowns are so cool desu

>>26247657
>Chespin was by default, one of the most popular picks because everyone thought he'd be Oshawott
How fucking bad is your memory? It was way more unpopular than Froakie and Fennekin by far.

And considering how awful the Chespin line is as a whole, it's well deserved hatred directed at Shitpin and its evos.

>>26246957
>the magic appreciator pickers

This is me. I don't fully understand all the sexualization of Delphox because at least to me it doesn't look super feminine to me but I get Braixen. It looks very girly without being designed super cutesy or pink. Thats part of why I was so disappointed that Delphox ended up not looking more intrinsically witchy.

>>26238203
I hope so. I'm fine with all three but Popplio is now the underdog so I'm rooting for it. Doesn't help that Rowlett people are already getting annoying and superior like the round owl with only a green bow tie to suggest it's grass is somehow clearly the best design. Makes me hope its evolutions are garbage.

>>26247657
>Actually, Froakie fans WERE hipsters
They can't be hipsters if Froakie was the most popular starter. Try harder.

>>26241736
For me it's because the snout looks like it had a cone glued to its face and then a pink ball glued to the cone. It doesn't connect naturally to the rest of the face.
That, and the lower body is really lacking in detail.

>>26243167
Fennekin ended up with like 90% of the fanart when it was revealed, faggot.

And Chespin had significantly more than Froakie.

>>26238203
The seal is probably made for the anime. Some random chick's starter Pokemon who she'll take to contests and shit.

>>26240250
I always pick the water starters, and I'm still getting this one.

Git on my level faggot

>>26248170
I noticed this too. The Owlfaggotry has just taken on a new form.

>>26248459
It's because it doesn't have any questionable and divisive design elements (ugly head brand for the cat and clown nose for the seal), so while it might be plain, it doesn't do anything to make people dislike it.

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>>26246115
>>>>Rowlet looks like it could be a Gen 1 pokemon
Wow I thought genwunners were just a meme until now

>nettsuu

my nigga

The only thing that matters is which looks best in the final stage, since that's the pokemon players will spend the most time with. The contest is far from over.

>>26248133
>>26248219

How bad is my memory really when I personally remember the most hated starters as

>Froakie (which is why I called it the hipster choice, which now that I remember, is a very bad choice of words when really, he was the UNDERDOG pick everyone would go for because they felt either sorry for him or saw him as a pimp compared to the rest) followed by Chespin being most hated (which happened during the Quilladin incident) followed by Fennekin as most hated (which I remember it was either due to her final evolution or the furry fanbase) as mid stage and final stages were revealed

Must have been in a parallel universe back then.

>>26238203
I hate the stupid cat.

>>26248623
Im not a Genner, senpai. Cause Litten could pass for it as well.

>>26248969
No, you're just in denial.

>>26239703
You are my fetish

i really like the seal

>>26239017
Normalfags love Litten though.

>>26238315
Gen 5 starters were so bad I needed to see clips of the anime to even consider a lesser of 3 evils.

It was Oshawott and I made it an HM slave

>>26240220
Froakie IS ugly. He just happened to be cool.

>>26238203
I hope he is... there's no going back on that failure, might as well redeem it with something better. Something to make us train it past the ugly.

>>26249985
Nope. Normalfags, and Tumblr, have latched onto Rowlet

>>26238203
I like Popplio, I just like the cat more.

>>26250358
I just looked and it's true. Tumblr is all Rowlet

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Its Oshawottt all over again.

>>26250819
i still think osha's a bit of a mess unfortunately

the brown nose is kinda ugly and the dark blue doesn't match as well as I'd like

but i mean it's not horrible

>>26250819
Worse than Oshawott
No shell weapon, just a ball-nose

>>26238463
>>26239179
>>26239815
Litten is the most popular everywhere, /vp/ is just full of owls memes after fake owl "turned out to be real".

>>26246138
>Mew in 3rd
>Mewtwo in 11th
Must be tough always being second to an HM slave.

>>26249074
I hate all of them, these are the worst starters yet.

>>26251200
Tumblr and twitter is all rowlet

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Requesting black and white fanart of Litten evolving into a Fire/Fighting type, I can't seem to find it anywhere.

>>26238585
Sure you did nigger

>>26251503
He'll be fire/dark, you dolt.

See, this is what I don't get. Greninja is ugly as fuck but everyone praises the tongue scarf as a great design element.

Whereas Popplio is much better-looking than Froakie and you have everyone shitting on its circus theme like it's an awful, silly design choice.

I think I have to just stop taking opinions seriously on this board. I disgaree with pretty much 95% of the board, and that's mostly because it's filled with underage, contrarians, and furphobes who will dislike a design with fur just so they aren't perceived as furfags. What a cancerous, shitty-taste board.

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>>26251958
>Greninja is ugly as fuck
>Popplio is much better-looking than Froakie

You don't sound any better than those you're critiquing. Please tell me why Greninja is shit and why Froakie is lame too.

nobody likes it because it's a dumb looking clown seal thing. They could have given us something new, like a dolphin, or at least a cool looking seal.but no we got a literal clown seal. by far the most disappointing water starter to date. would bully it even.

>>26238315
I think he's cute. The evolution will be great I bet.

>>26251503
>>26251925
I mean some drawing I saw in some other thread which I can't remember, featuring the kitty gradually getting bipedal and gradually more bluff with each evo.

>>26238203
I actually didn't like its nose at first, but now I think I love everything about it.

It's just a matter of time. Everybody will love it once they see it's water/dragon final stage.

>>26245728

Why won't you fucking prove it than? I also remember Froakie being unpopular.

He looks like a cute little puppy, I don't get hating him. I do think the other two are more unique looking though.

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>>26252482
He won't prove it because he can't. He's just baiting you.

>>26244579
I hope so

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>>26244579
Just like everyone's favorite fakemon.

Jesus.

>>26253292

Now see, look at this little fellow's nose?

It looks like a nose and it delivers the point, why does Popplio need to have a completely spherical big ass nose? You wouldn't even have to change his design much.

>>26253444
Invoking a ball

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I think I'm gonna use the water starter he reminds me of Babus.

Why is everyone talking about a seal Pokémon? They didn't announce a seal Pokémon...

>>26249399
Your a genner for putting Gen1 on a high pedestal tho.

>>26251925
Just like shinx was electric/dark right?

>>26251958
people don't like clowns aside from the joker.

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>>26242572
Probably, but Litten is literally going to be a cannon ball.

"A tuft of fur sits at the end of its long tail. Litten's fur produces flammable oils. This allows it to collect fur while grooming, then use it form fireballs. When this Pokémon begins shedding, it burns all its fur in a blaze."

Its tail is the wick.

>>26254817
Alola Ackbar!

>>26254817
Shit man, what if Litten is going to be a pirate?

Drilbur is a qt

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>>26246323
Narutoad

>>26256486
EEHHHH!

>>26242735
how much chocolate did that poor dumb doggo eat?

>>26238203
This is the first generation where I'm not even slightly interested in lewds in any of the starters. Whether thats a good or bad thing is up to you.

>>26253894
FYI, I put gen 2 above most