GET HYPE, from the mouth of Masuda himself we have a major announcement about the next games to come out titled Sun and Moon!
>Official Countdown timer
http://itsalmo.st/#newstime
>Masuda Twitter
https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda
>Pokemon YouTube Channel, supposedly video coming on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/user/pokemon
Reminder to keep the shitposts to a minimum and enjoy the hype. We're a sleep cycle away from new information, so let's get talking!
Requesting sticky mods for the impending shitstorm.
OWLS
Finally! Everyone can see the REAL starters and get rid of the autistic Owl and Co "leaks" that have been floating around for month's now.
STICKY PLS
What time in EST?
What does everyone think the box art legends will look like?
>>26225963
There he is there he goes again with his owl references. Dont you ever get tired of shit posting? Seriously dude.
>>26225975
8 AM
>>26225975
8 AM
everyone get in here
https://discord.gg/0109OV0jgScrYkyWV
>>26225963
Fuck off imposter. Owl is real.
>>26225977
Nigga I am DONE with the Owls. Re read my post again cunt. I've turned over a new leaf. Pun intended
The owl shit is the worst meme to ever come from a Pokemon game. Literally would rather eat a broom then read one more goddamn shitpost
You fuckers know we're only getting a 30 second trailer showing the boxart, right?
>>26225982
I'm the impostor? Hah, nice try falseflagger. The owls are FAKE
>>26225949
OP here,
http://itsalmo.st/#newstime is the countdown to the news. If you're curious about what time it starts, look there!
>>26225949
Post yfw there are no new starters, 3d models/animations/ backgrounds are the same and there's only ten new Pokémon
>I haven't felt this excited since ~scoop of the millennium~ in August 2013.
If owl is real, i shoot my monitor
>>26226002
Nah, let's not be pessimistic even though we're 100% justified in doing so.
Post yfw new grounded models for flying Pokemon with shitty flying models AKA Tropius
>>26226002
Why the fuck would they show 10 new Pokemon in the trailer?
>>26226002
I can't imagine them ever making a game that adds pokemon but only adds in 10. What a giant waste of time.
>>26225999
Me? A fake? Ha!
You're not even good enough to be my fake.
Why is this thread in particular so high-energy
The other dozen threads about this have all the liveliness of Hillary Clinton.
>>26226008
shoot yourself after too faggot
how the fuck has no info leaked yet, I know it's a video but people have seen it, at least draw it like damn nigga
>>26225949
Bingo time lads
>>26226022
Because I made this thread and I clearly said keep the shitposts to a minimum.
>>26226008
It isn't, don't shoot!
Oh shit. The news is an hour earlier than I thought.
>>26226040
Check serebii
>>26226017
What was Black and White2
What was ORAS
GTFO faggot
>>26226029
What's this round going by?
We doing four corners? 7 across?
>>26226016
That's....actually a good fucking idea.
Tropius using any attack looks like it's in a washing machine
>>26225949
Too soon
no bingo here, sadly
>>26226049
Show me a trailer where exactly "10" new Pokemon were shown in one video, oh and I mean dex entries as those are NEW Pokemon, not megas
What time is this starting?
>>26226052
4 corners since it'd be very difficult to get bingo with 7 across with that board
>>26226040
I realized the same thing a little while ago. Expected it to be at 6 because I forgot Arizona isn't an hour later than PST right now. I usually wake up at 7, would have been okay with waking up at hour earlier but 2 hours is just too much.
>>26226082
http://itsalmo.st/#newstime
>people that think it's nothing
go rewatch the xy trailer faggots
>>26226193
now go rewatch the oras trailer
>>26226258
>remake of a shitty region no one cared about
gee
>>26226263
>cherrypick AND goalposts
congrats
So what are the chances of them showing actual game footage? And not just boxart or something.
>>26226273
No chance in hell
>>26225999
The trips tell the truth.
>>26226273
99% Masuda is hyping this too much. THIS IS GAMEPLAY
>>26226273
they showed gameplay for XandY
post yfw you realise the video is already uploaded to Nintendo's channel but hasn't been made public yet
The dream will soon be killed
>>26226273
>tfw they show updated models
>>26226028
People won't bother risking their ass at work just to leak info it if we're this close to the actual reveal itself. Some people can actually wait a few hours. The whole leak mentality probably why they been so damn uptight about information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iozIZBFH45Y
6 hours remaining, regardless of what happens, one party is gonna be BTFO, so to that party, enjoy these final moments.
>post yfw denialfags get blown out of existence
>>26226008
post dick and timestamp next to gun and loaded clip faggot
>>26226324
Plus Japanese people barely come to 4chan at all and what few do probably would not come to /vp/ of all places.
>>26226338
>clip
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>26226008
You won't fucking do it
>>26226008
just shoot yourself instead faggot
anyone notice how the sun logo looks like an X and the moon logo kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda looks like a Y?
S I X H O U R S
I.........................
X....……............
H.......................
O.......................
U.......................
R.......................
S.......................
>>26226364
>kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda
Stopped reading right there :)
>>26226077
>let me further my goalpost since I got btfo :^)
nips speculate megalugia and megahooh are coming
/vp/, post yfw only reveal is starter silhouettes, including a grass starter that is ambiguously bird-like.
Who /lordofthedance/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n1elUTP8hY
>>26226376
Good thing owls aren't birds
HOW SHOULD I FORCE MYSELF TO GO TO SLEEP? SHOULD I PLAY WHITE NOISE?
>>26226371
Then you had already read almost 3/4 of his faggoty post you kike
the new starters will be the kalos starters.
mark my words, cucks
>yfw the Fire-starter is an owl
OWLFAG BTFO
DENIALFAGS BTFO
ZODIACFAGS BTFO
can't wait for /vp/ to make another split again based off of starters
remember, firefags go to the trash where they and their fire starters belong
>>26226008
wanna use my crossbow
WHERE DO YOU THINK SUN AND MOON WILL BE BASED ON?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10174465
>>26226453
>no option for southern coastal france + hawaiian style islands combined
dude
>>26226413
I think it's undeniably a cat. Unless for some reason they make the sea lion the fire one and nyabby the water starter.
>>26226371
Just saying :)
>>26226391
Hey fuck off. israel's chosen people have been through enough.
>>26226451
I'll lend you my katana
>>26226453
>Sun
Glorious Nippon
>Moon
Turkey
>>26226467
That's the Arby's option
>>26226334
Here's your reply.
>>26226475
>turkey
Koksal Baba ETL confirmed
>>26226470
Can we be certain Nyabby is the name of a starter? It's not common for a starter's name to not reference its type in some way, though not unheard of either.
REAL
E
A
L
>>26226489
>Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
>>26226498
FAKE
>gen 7 announced in 2016
>2016 is the year of the monkey
Mega Infernape confirmed?
>>26225949
In case the video is Japan only.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PokemonCoJp/videos
>>26226503
Mega Primeape
Quick question while we wait
What is the best team I can make with Infernape in it?
>>26226539
Something weak to bisharp/weavile.
>>26225960
You'll probably need this. Start practicing now.
happening
https://www.youtube.com/user/PokemonCoJp
>>26226008
how u gonna shoot a gun when u only got four fingers nigga
Do I go to sleep now or stay up?
0-4 Sleep
5-9 Stay Up
>>26226503
MegaElemental Monkeys:^(
>>26226576
rolling
Why do people assume the owl is a starter exactly? How do you know these 'leaks' aren't just early route shitmon?
>>26226576
If dubs you take a quick rest at the halfway mark.
Ready
>>26226569
Rolling
Anyone else hoping for mons based on Lovecraftian lore?
>>26226576
Yes
>>26226576
Rool
>>26226576
Rolling
>>26226488
For you.
ALMOST
4
HOURS
LEFT
am not hype.
will get no actual info.
>>26226640
make it 5
hello friends what are you drinking
>>26226682
water
>>26226659
Four.
>>26226698
Five. It's 8:50am in spain. The announcement is at 14:00
>>26226704
isn't it at 5am for us PDT folk. I'm on us west coast should I bother stay up
>>26226453
Some Japanese region, like the first 4 gens.
I have class in three hours, I might get back in time for the reveal.
>mfw
>>26226711
Sleep for 4 and a half hours, there is no point in waiting awake. I'm at work right now, so I don't have much of a choice
>>26226704I was expecting you to say "Three. Take it or leave it."
>>26226711
I'm in Southern California. Got an alarm set already. I feel your pain
I'm in AZ, what time would that be?
>>26226795
http://itsalmo.st/#newstime
>>26226795
AZ time
>>26226795
nice meme bait
>>26226795
>. Most of Arizona has no Daylight Saving Time.
Why would they do that? But it's in 5 hours.
I'm on the moon, what time could I watch it?
>>26226814
It's actually streaming exclusively for people on the moon right now. It just started.
>>26226811
Because the old people living here are dumb I guess
See the hour in this post? Add 3h 56m, at that time you see it
>>26226814
never, region locked video. The moon is offlimits
holy shit, the video got uploaded early
I think the video will be posted on the japanese pokemon youtube, am I wrong?
>>26226847
>>26226843
4 hour, not 3 you idiot
>>26226861
probably it will be posted on every pokemon channel, global launch
What has been everyone's favorite Pokereveal from the past?
I loved when Mega Mewtwo Y was revealed. I've never seen people so assblasted and confused on the web in my life, it was great.
>>26226576
I have an exam tomorrow
But instead of making the smart choice to sleep I will let fate decide.
>>26226883
Smarts prevail
Reccomended listening material:
https://soundcloud.com/dimitri-solomon/a-day-inside-may-chapter-10
When this ends it'll be half an hour closer to the infodump
>>26226882
Same, that fucking denial, still cant top donphan
I can't sleep so time to fuck up my schedule. At least I don't have work tomorrow.
>>26226882
Reporting in from Los Angeles. How much longer, and where do I go to watch this shit unfold?
>>26226704
Thanks for the info tío
>>26226991
You're in the spot
>>26226991
The official pokemon youtube channel
>>26226991
4 hours, 42 minutes
>>26227007
>>26227009
Cool, thanks ppl.
I'll be here playing Pokemon Y and listening to the Bloodborne soundtrack.
>dont judge me
Before the shit hits the fan, does anyone think she will play a big part in SM?
>>26226008
hey can you shoot me too?
>>26227062
Don't think so. I think she'll be a mythical
>>26227062
Nah
>>26227027
I'm playing Overwatch until the reveal.
I hope they announce the old school battle frontier in the new region. That would be fucking sick.
>>26227062
No, just a movie Mon like Diancie/Hoopa/Volcanion. Nothing special about this Metal Fairy.
>>26227097
forgot pic :^)
>>26227062
No. She'll be unceremoniously distributed online. This franchise seems to be shying away from legendary side quests.
>>26227110
i love all the art work that spawned from that shit show. shes got a nice booty
What time will it happen?
CST usa over here
>>26227119
Just add 4:30 hours
>>26227119
So 7 in the morning if you cant do math
>>26227094
>>26227096
>>26227109
>>26227113
Additionally, do you think Magearna will show up in the trailer/reveal that is to come in the next few hours?
>>26227115
Haha, same. Not even going to end up playing it. Just love Tracer.
<even that cockney accent
>>26227131
Something quite a few people on this board can't do, apparently.
>>26227132
If we get battle footage than I think so.that would be the best chance to show her off
>>26227132
Nope, I'm not expecting her
>>26227132
If it is, probably will be at the tail end of the announcement.
>>26227131
>>26227136
How is one suppose to do the math when they don't know the time zones
>>26227153
You could also look at the fucking op with the countdown in it
If the owl is real I will chop my balls off on a stream
>>26227159
you should do it if it's fake, too
>>26227150
It wont be Magearna at the end.Itll be Pikachu mega evolving
Whatever happens, I am going to be upset about it.
>>26227158
Nigga nobody reads the ops
How much longer do we have to wait?
>the sun shows up during the day
>the moon show up during the night sometimes
Brazil confirmed for Pokèmon sun & moon region.
GET HYPE!
>>26227171
The /vp/ official slogan, right here.
>>26227176
4 hrs 24 mins
What time will it happen?
On-board the Nostromo here
Guys, can we promise each other something?
Whether you were a leak believer or the opposite, no matter which one wins and which one loses in the end.
The loser doesn't fucking backpedal or back down. At least have the balls admit you were wrong.
>>26227176
Like four hours til the video...
Fuck
>>26227166
I bet that'd trigger at least half of /vp/
>>26227185
106 years ago
>>26227179
shut the fuck up, you fucking monkey
your country is shit
>>26227185
So who's Ash?
i got photoshop ready to draw porn of any bipedal humanoid that gets shown on screen
>>26227191
I would be pissed. That doesnt mean i wont buy both versions. GameFreak has my balls in a vice until the day I die.
Post music you're listening to while you wait for the announcement. I'll start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4
Can be pokemon or non-pokemon related.
GET HYPE!
>>26226576
roggenrollin
Playing Vega for the first time to pass the time until the reveals.
What can I expect/any protips?
My bf has been trying to calm down my hype but I can't help but feel like something big is coming. Will I be disappointed, vp?
>>26227186
I still remember flinging shit at all those people claiming there would be 8 directional movement after the XY trailer. I was thoroughly btfo and I admit it.
However Owlfags are memers and will say no one ever thought it was real.
Only a few more hours until owl fags say "I-I was only pretending to be retarded!"
>>26227225
>Will I be disappointed, vp?
Yes you will.
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBobN-r4tag
this better be gud, I'm considering going to bed and setting an alarm to go off 10 minutes before the trailer drops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2p6PWIeTBE
>>26227212
>caravan palace
My nigga
>>26227205
if you're fast enough and it's decent you'll go down in history, don't fuck this up
you guys know any programming languages
>>26227222
Lots of grinding, specifically on Pokemon miles weaker than you.
Gym Leaders and Important NPCs with ridiculously good Pokemon with unfairly powerful movesets.
Also, a majority of Pokemon can't even be obtained until postgame where you'll already have a solid, defined team you likely won't change.
>>26227205
Youre doin gods work son.
>>26227212
good song
this is my current song. saw these guys in concert last year. it was pretty fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UI1hhsam8I
>>26227245
good song
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKOah18x0g
It wont possibly beat the reveal of Xerneas and Yveltal.
God damn those two were so sexy when they first showed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6izE6IgflA
!!!!!
>>26227248
I know Spanish.
>>26227268
It was nice to take a break from "LE EBIC DRAGONZ" for a bit. Maybe SM will continue the trend.
>>26227279
But Yveltal was the most ebin of the dragonz.
>all this shit music
Lets get real folks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c
KOWASHITAI
Do you think Lunatone and Solrock are getting megas?
>>26227286
Cringe
>>26227285
I mean design-wise
>>26227290
No but they will havethe same evolution
>>26227290
Yes
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8
Maximum comfy
>>26227290
It would be cool. They deserve love of some sort.
>>26227251
Oh. Well that sounds stupid.
At least the music is great.
Someone should've set up a comfy stream or something. I would've but I have no idea how to cytube
>>26227320
I'll do it, what do you want played?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNn_7vK9SrY
Appropriate way to pass 20 minutes of waiting.
>>26227290
Fusion evolution into Platera
>>26227285
Edge done right.
>>26227212
not currently listening to music since I'm about to watch anime, but these were the last 2 tracks I was listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeHhGgfY0Co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZR-zbGHkU
might post more later
APPROXIMATELY 4 HOURS REMAINING
HANG IN THERE BOYZ
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-z5iBk6iI
Watching XYZ on cytube room name - HappyGappy
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igHOaMOzzUo
Just found out about this guy when he died, some bretty good shit.
Just a reminder that they most likely won't show the starters, its implied nowhere that they will. Just don't keep your hopes up.
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nco_kh8xJDs
I'm getting my grunge angst on this morning.
>>26227212
I know its not music, but it helps me relax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3a4jA0jfrk
>Try to sleep
>Just end up making up every other hour and a half
Fuck it, I'll just stay up and binge watch something.
>>26227378
>/v/-tan thinking to about the wonders of life on a bench.jpg
>>26227212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj2QWcu3xVg
Robobot is great.
Would you abandon this life for a guaranteed place in the Pokemon world?
>>26227426
game universe or anime universe?
>>26227426
Who wouldn't? I used to say as a kid that if I could choose to live in any universe, it'd be the Pokemon world. As an adult it's no different. It's a relatively peaceful place with cool as fuck sentient monster friends. Where are the downsides?
>>26227426
Most likely, yeah. Depends how my future pans out. Everything's pretty shit now though.
>>26227426
Yes.
Why is this even a question?
>>26227408
>Trying to avoid spoilers until it's released in yurop
>Go to youtube
>Recommended for you: KIRBY PLANET ROBOBOT - ALL BOSS BATTLES + FINAL BOSS
>And several other similar variations
>Spoilery thumbnails everywhere
MOTHERFUCKERS I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN ANY KIRBY-RELATED VIDEOS IN LIKE A MONTH GOD DAMN IT
>>26227436
ain't they the same?
>>26227426
Yes. Fuck yes.
Do we get to decide which universe? If so, I want to go to the Mystery Dungeon universe.
>>26227378
But they did with Unova some 5-6 years ago in May (or at least in Coro Coro). If there'll be a trailer, I think there's got to be starters and snippets of gameplay like XY at the very least.
>>26227426
Without even questioning it. Fuck reality right now..
What if the video is an animated trailer like the one for B2W2?
>>26227482
do you want my dick to fly off like a rocket? dont suggest such things.
>>26227426
Only if I got to live in Unova.
>>26227482
As long as there's gameplay...
>>26227426
Would you?
>>26227426
I'd either have to wait for my pets to pass on or bring 'em with me, but other than that I got literally nothing to tie me here, I would happily make the trade.
Corocoro isn't coming. too bad
>>26227212
I've been on a nostalgia binge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwmLYAegOrU
>>26227451
Whoops. Sorry Anon.
>>26227482
The animated trailers are rad but I don't want to listen to gen 6.5 arguments anymore. I hope we get one later on though
>>26227185
Some of you guys are alright.
Don't go to LV-426 tonight.
>>26227482
That would be hype.
>>26227482
I loved the BW2 trailerbecause Nate is my favorite boyI hope the SM boy is as good as him.
>>26227482
STOP GETTING MY HOPES UP ASSHOLE
>>26227547
>>26227482
OH FUCKFUCKFUCK I'M HYPE AS FUCK
>>26227547
Shit all this talk about the starter and mascots made me forget about the new protags. fuck i hope they are as cute as nate and rosa
Post fake leaks.
Oh my God, getting comfy in here. Woohoo!
Eat shit, Owl fags, your meme dies in a few hours.
>>26227604
but... what if it is another unrelated owl?
>>26227604
They're gone anyway. They lost their hope for 6.5.
>>26227575
>rosa ans nate
>cute
Yours isn't even shit taste, it's pure bait.
>>26227615
That would be the worst scenario
>>26227623
i didnt say they were the cutest.Kris is
>>26227566
STOP GETTING HOPES UP MY ASSHOLE
In a matter of hours, the pokemon world we know will have changed forever.
anyone want to watch pokemon? ill stream anything i can find
>>26227643
who?
>>26227426
Fuck yes, my life here sucks
Guys, I don't know if I'll make it, 5:45 here
>>26227683
nigga dont be trying to talk shit about the best girl.
>>26227675
anyone want to watch the first movie?
>>26227675
RNG a number of one of the movies and stream it for us senpai
>>26227522
Oh, no, it's okay. I'm glad you're enjoying the game. I didn't look at the video you posted.
I'm just mad at youtube's retarded recommendation algorithm and people putting spoilers in their thumbnails.
Like, it would have been fun to play the game and suddenly find outFUCKING NOVA IS IN THIS GAME!?I mean, I think it was that, I only saw the thumbnail at a glance before looking away, but it sure looked like that.
ONE MORE MONTH
++++REMEMBER XY REVEAL TIER TRAILER+++
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMWdUBA8e4
I hope they do something like that again
>>26227704
playing the first movie now cytube - HappyGappy
>>26227704
we got the first one streaming already. go to cytuDOTbe and search for the channel HappyGappy
>>26227706
Damn, it was actually some good shit.
I'm hoping that the new pokemon is set in Italy....also because in real life,Italy and France are connected by railway so that would probabily mean that we could return to Kalos by train like in Gen II...I'm telling you the railway station in X Y was made for this purpose
>>26227706
I hope so as well, that was very informative for a reveal.
>go to sleep
>wake up and still 3 hours ahead for the stream to start
Sometimes it feels gud to be europoor
Be excited, but remember, don't get your hopes up too high. We've been information-starved before.
>>26226576
Rolling. I have a final to study for either way though.
>>26227698
>best girl
>doesn't even exist
>>26227730
>tfw I can't stay up any longer
>tfw I will probably oversleep and wake up late for the announcement
>>26227747
mother fucker
So this and Corocoro leaks are about simultaneous. Is there any chance we get some Corocoro scans before 8am?
>>26227751
Alarm ftw!
>>26227730
Ausfag here, it's at a comfy 10pm for me
FeelsDecentDude.jpg
>>26227657
I've been up so long that I have a headache.
>>26227760
no. it looks like we will get the corocoro leaks tomorrow night
>6am here
Fucking third world
>mfw the announcement is at 3 AM for me
probably just gonna take tomorrow off work
also,
>tfw still more hyped about BF1 information as opposed to M/S leaks
>>26227675
I have all the pikachu shorts (and nearly everything else because I'm a massive hoarder) if y'all want me to try and get livestream working.
>>26227760
I'm guessing since corocoro comes later than the info, it will most likely just go over what we know anyways.
>literally been up for 6 hours, 6 hours I could had slept
3 HOURS
H
O
U
R
S
>>26227781
just go to bed and set an alarm before the announcement
>>26227778
BR?
>>26227792
Too long
>>26227792
New thread for last lap?
>>26227792
The hype seems real.
>>26227787
It'll all be worth it anon, do your best!!jk it's going to be disappointing as fuck
>>26226008
Give a hoot, don't shoot.
>>26227795
It's already midnight. Might as well stay up playing insurgency. Plus I haven't used any of my days off in months.
3 hours let's go boys
>>26227815
>>26227815
>>26227815
>>26227815
Thread #2 lads
American autism edition
The only hype I feel in this moment (6 am) is that I need Porygon 2, Porygon Z, Electivire, Magmortar, Slowking and Kingdra to complete the National Dex for the first time in my entire life.
Well,im more of a Genn 2 fag buti cant wait to see what we'll be getting this time.cool Johto megas when?
>>26227760
Very unlikely. Leaks usually happen when somebody swipes a backroom copy from work to take home after their shift or one manages to reach somebody's mailbox early. Both that will take effort or luck to happen before said time arrives. Don't think any leakers are in any rush when Nintendo is hyping an announcement that is only a few hours away anyway. If we are getting corocoro leaks it will be sometime later after these announcements or the next day.
>>26227781
>Tfw is 11.12 A.M. here
>>26227812
Well, that's what I'm gonna do, here's to hoping I don't just blindly hit snooze and miss the whole thing. At least it'll be there in the morning
>>26226539
Full U-turn, Volt Switch team
What are you guys doing while waiting? I'm currently watching The Force Awakens,
By the power of meme magic i can confirm that'll we'll be shown new starters but sun/moon will have heavy ties to kalos,hints towards johto starter megas,region name and whatever the fuck ash greninja will be.
>>26227924
Playing kirby planet robobot and doing homework
Sokka, it'll be soon.
>>26227924
Polishing up some assignments for university, making breakfast (Bongistani here).
>>26227924
I did my daily business and finished everything that needed to be done early.
It's almost lunchtime (Dutchfag).
playing animal crossing new leaf
>>26225949
Just woke up. time to have some breakfast for this last hour.
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