IIT: we try to fix a terrible pokemon by changing one thing about them
Hard mode: must be realistic (no 999 BASE HP, etc)
Where would Slaking be if he didn't have truant? Overused? Banned?
>>26179108
>"Fixing" the inherent design of a pokemon
- Slow Start counts for every single turn after being first send out, even if he was switch.
- Give him Protect and Slow Start don't reset if switched out
- He achieves Primal once heGot it's act together
He'd definetley be banned, his stats rival legendaries', with a hige speed, attack and bulk, the only way to change truant would be with a mega that literally lowered it's stats somehow
Worst.niche.ever. How could a mega realisticly fix this thing
>>26179154
+100 speed.
>Wonder Guard also blocks status and non-attack damage
Would shedinja still suck?
>>26179165
On the Knock off: The Generation?
ye,
>>26179108
Slaking with Klutz or defeatist would work.
>>26179108
eve worse... replace Truant with Huge Power
>>26179184
Yeah, this would have to be it without it becoming absolutely OP.
>>26179108
Its stats are fantastic, and it has a decent movepool, but I'm not sure it would be too strong for OU, due to its pure Normal typing (and assuming it doesn't have a broken ability like Mega Mom).
>>26179160
>Base 165 Atk
>Base 158 Spe
Just for good measure, lets take 40 points off of his HP and give it to his Atk, its not like he would be needing those anyways... and also sheer force for good measure
>>26179216
>changing HP with a mega
>>26179216
Just pull 55 from Special attack and dump it into ATK.
210 ATK
158 Spe
>Dunsparce
>Has a unique ability where secondary effects always activate
There, he is now useful.
>>26179259
>210 ATK
>158 Spe
Even with the repercusion that Head Smash would cause, this thing would be banned to Ubers as soon as it was released
>>26179268
>not just paraflinch, but permaflinch
>>26179276
Nah, it still sucks. we gotta pull from special defense and defense to buff speed and attack more.
97 HP
255 ATK
10 Def
10 Sp Atk
10 Sp Def
255 Spe
Make it mega with head smash and give it Rock Head. Then it might be good. MIGHT.
>>26179305
>255 Spe
>Current highest speed is 180
kek
>>26179284
even better, fire off a few ancient powers and your the ultimate tank/attacker rolled into one.
How about a bad pokemon with a trick room that activates when they are brought out? Would make trick room teams more viable.
>>26179305
>literally any priority move destroys it
>can't even save itself with focus sash
Rampardos is fucked no matter what.
>>26179268
>>26179305
Yeah, that looks about right
>>26179165
Maybe, but at least it'd have an usable gimmick
>>26179305
>marill used aqua jet
>>26179305
>Zigzagoon used Quick Attack!
Is there a way to change its ability without making it overpowered?
>>26179375
Give it literally any useless ability and call it a day.
>>26179342
>>26179366
>>26179370
...What about instead of "Rock Head", he gets his own ability, "Preparation", that makes all attack moves with a power less than 100 have increased priority?
>>26179375
Change it so it activates at 1/4 HP instead?
>>26179370
>Quick Attack on Zigzagoon
>not Extreme Speed
>>26179108
>Slaking
>terrible
I guy just got top 3 on Smogon with Slaking as the featured mon. Slaking isn't bad. It is just very hard to use.
>>26179395
Perfect, as long as it's increased to +6 priority
>>26179136
Without an item, it would basically be Mega-Mom without the parental bond shenanigans.
>>26179305
>>26179395
>2 255 base stats
>OC do not steal ability
>>26179268
He is now banned
>>26179375
give it another ability that isn't shit.
It's stats aren't stupidly high, It's main problem is that GF really wanted us to use the rock squirtle.
>>26179420
Yes, because we're being entirely serious.
>>26179130
>Allowing a Pokemon to remain a useless gimmick because Game Freak is terrible at balancing things.
>>26179108
With Megas and three generations of power-creep, Slaking without Truant wouldn't be nearly as bad as he might have been back in Gen III.
>>26179108
>give it any other ability besides Truant
There. Slaking's fixed. Seriously, it'd be in Ubers since its introduction if it didn't have Truant. Kingkong's stats are amazing otherwise. Why it isn't the real pseudo of Hoenn is boggling.
>>26179108
>>26179803
>Mega Slaking
>Ability: Thick Fat
>HP: 150
>Attack: 180 (+20)
>Defense: 135 (+35)
>Sp. Atk: 95
>Sp. Def: 100 (+35)
>Speed: 110 (+10)
>It's just Slaking, but he's standing up and looks mad as fuck.
Make Truant only affect damaging moves.
>>26179875
>no unnecessary padding to SpA
Sold. If it got Sheer Force instead, it'd be deadly.
>>26179335
>How about a bad pokemon with a trick room that activates when they are brought out?
Serious question here: how viable would Unown be if it had this ability?
>>26180065
It's retarded as fuck already. Jesus christ you faggots don't know how to balance for shit.
>>26179875
>those defensive stats
>that bulk
Premier Primal Groudon counter/check right there.
>>26180109
It would still be pretty bad. The only way it would be good is if trick room never ran out or there was an item that extended it to like 10 turns or something.
>>26179375
Just give it Frisk or some shit. Honestly there's no reason why it has Defeatist to begin with.
>>26180122
And you think GF fucking doesn't?
>PDon
>Megafug
>Megamence
>>26179803
>Why it isn't the real pseudo of Hoenn is boggling.
Because it wasn't designed to be.
The "why does Gamefreak hate Slaking ;_;" people are utterly retarded. IT'S A GIMMICK POKEMON. IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A GIMMICKY MIDGAME BOSS THAT ENCOURAGES USING STATUS MOVES SINCE KIDS WERE PROBABLY JUST STEAMROLLING EVERYTHING WITH SE STAB ATTACKS UP TO THAT POINT.
NEWSFLASH: POKEMON ARE DESIGNED WITH INGAME FUNCTIONS. EARLY ROUTE BUGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A QUICK EARLY GAME BOOST DUE TO EVO SPEED. PSEUDOS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ENDGAME BOSSES. LEGENDARIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STRONG. PIKACLONES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CUTE. EARLY ROUTE NORMAL MAMMALS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE JACKS OF ALL TRADES, MASTER OF NONE. ET CETERA
FUCK
>>26180065
Sheer Force is a bit too much. Mega Slaking would already have the same BST as Primal Kyogre/Groudon despite not being a legendary itself, I think Thick Fat to complement its bulk would be more than enough to let it hang out comfortably in Ubers.
>>26180146
>Premier Primal Groudon counter/check right there.
Exactly what I was thinking.
>>26179875
>giving it a good ability AND raising its stats by 100
>missing the entire point of Slaking's design philosophy
Hint: it wasn't a 670 BST mon given Truant to keep it balanced. It was a sloth given Truant (because that fits a sloth) and THEN given 670 BST in an attempt to prevent it from sucking.
>>26180470
>sloth given Truant
Correction, it was designed AROUND Truant.
>>26180417
>Bug Types are an early boost
Most of the first gyms either are rock, flying, possible fire, or bug them self.
>>26180417
>>26180470
I didn't miss anything whatsoever. Megas are built around the idea of either A) taking a design element of a given Pokemon to its extreme or B) changing things up by giving them a different niche. If Slaking was to receive a Mega, it would have to be something that doesn't keep it every bit as terrible as it is now. Even just having it revert back towards its Vigoroth state and replacing Truant with Vital Spirit would be better than attempting to design a Mega around Truant or some slightly modified alternative.