What the literal FUCK was she talking about? Why would destroying

>>26142291
It was a poor attempt to make it clearer that ORAS and RSE were parallel timelines and not just the same place 10 years later.

>>26142291
because the goal of the scientists was to send the asteroid to a place far away with a worm hole, zinnia probably knew it would be sent to the other hoenn

>>26142291
yeah, that should have no effect on other timelines unless they're sending it through a portal?

They were sending the asteroid through a worm hole they created that would end up in the universe where Hoenn had no Megas.

Basic reading comprehension OP. Maybe in Sun and Moon they should pander to your retard kind some more by not doing post game content like this anymore because it will hurt your wittle bwain too much.

>>26142302

>Zinnia probably knew it would be sent to the other hoenn

But that's an insane deduction. It was made clear that the wormhole was going to work the same way as the warp pads in Team Magma/Aqua's HQ, which clearly didn't send people into some fucking Game Boy Advance timeline.

Someone just needed to slap that bitch Zinnia and stop her from Mary Sue-ing over every attempt to help.

>>26142291
its obviously RSE you ding dong

>>26142291
it is not about parallel timelines but about parallel worlds. Best example ORAS is a parallel world of RSE. In RSE there wasn´t a metroid and Rayquaza´s job was to look after groudon and kyogre. In ORAS he got the Job of saving the earth from outer space things (I guess?) and in this parallel world there are also mega evo´s.

parallel timelines are I think the partner edition? E.g. AS and OR

>>26142309
>>26142322

Read:
>>26142326

They made it clear that the wormhole was to act like a teleportation method, not a fucking time travel hole.

>>26142329

please read the thread before posting

>>26142342
who says rse hoenn is in the past? you know that if it's a parallel universe, time is going to flow the exact same way as oras hoenn, right?

>>26142291
oh no the 20ft wide meteor might land in the 60% of the region that's ocean

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>>26142291
Maxie talk about parallel universes as well.

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>>26142291
We knew parallel universes in Pokémon, since from 1st generation of Pokémon.

Ethics aside, why care about a parallel universe if nothing about it affects you?

yeah, theoretically it might exist, but so?

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>>26142291
There is several mentions of parallel universes, realms, dimensional planes and etc in the Pokédex entries.

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>tfw did the Delta Episode in 0.5 A presses

>Protip: in other timeline, Zinnia send asteroid via Reflection Cave to PMD: Rescue Team Blue/Red


DEEPEST LORE

>>26142291
>>26142291
>What the literal FUCK was she talking about? Why would destroying the asteroid doom another a ''Hoenn region that's similar but different''?

They wanted to stop the asteroid because.it would have caused doom on their hoenn. The asteroid on a similar region would have the same effect, cristal clear. If you have reading comprehension that is.

>>26142435
>implying parallel universes and different dimensions are the same thing

>>26142299
>timelines
Universes

>>26142326
>>26142326
Where has it been stated they work like the magma/aqua hq's warp zones?

>>26142537

somehow i dont think an asteroid that small would kill anything more than a few Tentacool

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>>26142537

>They wanted to stop the asteroid because.it would have caused doom on their hoenn. The asteroid on a similar region would have the same effect, cristal clear.

what the fuck are you talking about?

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>>26142537
>cristal clear

>>26142437
Some people care about ethics.


And zinnia stated they observed the other.universe.

>>26142565
Classical physics 101

Why didnt they just use Parasect transportation and hyper speed walking to transport the meteor after the controller got destroyed?

This thread is the sole reason I know vp is underage B& as fuck

>>26142631

Because riding on Mega Fug was sooooo much kewler. xDD

Anyways, I really like the concept of the Delta Episode, but fucking hell, GF just...sucks when it comes to actually doing things--executing them.

Would it kill them to look back to Stark Mountain, or the Emma/Looker episodes--and just beefy that up? The problem is that they should have spaced the whole thing out and make THAT the whole post game--

-Sees the trembling hands of many Anons-

Okaypartofthepostgame--but the point still stands. How did they fuck it up so badly?

>>26142651

Do you mean the actual thread topic, or the posters in the thread?

>>26142666
What's exactly your problem? That it isnt longer?

>>26142548
dimensions and universes are the samething in Pokémon.

>>26142717
Not since gen 4.

>>26142351
>>26142342
Fuck off OP.

>>26142815

???

Does the fact that I posted in the thread I made offend you or something, faglord? I know you're a new but that isn't an unusual thing to see.

>>26142651
>>26142875
>get destroyed
>start crying

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>>26142893

I'm honestly so confused right now

>>26142322
>wittle bwain

>>26142332
He was always a sky guardian alongside Ho-oh. In PMD he stopped a meteor as well, for instance.

>>26142561

Did you miss the part where it was a 10 kilometer asteroid? As in dinosaur killer "100 teratons, equivalent to 8 BILLION HIROSHIMAS" level.

That asteroid impacting would make Hoenn the new Atlantis myth.

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>>26142631
>>26142470
>>>

>>26142708
I'm not him, but the problem is that it sucked ass. You vs Zinnia. Sue vs insufferable sue.

>>26142985
>>>>

>the problem is that it sucked ass.
Not an argument.

>You vs Zinnia. Sue vs insufferable sue.
You're not a sue, neither is zinnia. That's the whole point of her character, she thinks she is but she isnt.

>>26142291
>>26142309
>>26142326
The warp pad analogy was a way to conceptualize how the process would work, possibly for the benefit of kids playing. The implications of the situation though are that using the rocket and the Link Cable will send the meteor through a wormhole to another universe, because that's what a link cable canonically does (allow trades between game universes) and that's why it was brought back into the lore to discuss.

Zinnia says the Hoenn she observed with her people could be the place the meteor ends up (not definitively) and says they'd have no means of protecting themselves, which is why she's against just sending it away to be someone else's problem.

>>26143056
>The warp pad analogy was a way to conceptualize how the process would work, possibly for the benefit of kids playing.
That's fine for kids, but the pokemon fanbase isnt that smart.

>>26143012
Zinnia
>steals everyone's Mega Stones with no repercussions
>is told how awesome of a trainer she is
>constantly tells off Steven because she thinks she knows everything
>constantly runs off without explaining everything
>after she steals Maxie's Mega Bracelet, he just compliments her battleing skills and gives you the Mega Stone
>turns out to be right all along

You
>the chosen one destined to save the world with a Legendary
>twice in one game

>>26143012
What? Zinnia is a terrible character, and almost the literal definition of mary sue. She beat every single boss, stole the keystones of powerful trainers without breaking a sweat, always knew where you were or would be, had knowledge about every step of the plot and whenever she went somewhere every NPC would fucking balk in awe at her and do nothing but say 'she's so damn powerful'. That's before even mentioning she's the most important member of a super-secret clan of dragon trainers that have been around for thousands of years with a special-snowflake connection to Rayquaza.

I shouldn't have even gone to the trouble of typing this but I only recently bothered to complete AS yesterday and the Delta episode was horrendous and most of it was because of this character.

Oh and Zinnia didn't even apologise for all the bullshit she pulled, she gets off completely fine and just gets to pull the 'badass-wandering-nomad' shit. The only upside to her is the sheer amount of porn generated which fuels countless hateboners.

>>26142975
>Did you miss the part where it was a 10 kilometer asteroid?
Thing was smaller than M-Rayquaza

>>26143056
>>26143120
>>26143144


Also, she was secretly the driving force of the entire Gen 3 plot, joining the evil Teams and providing them with the means to awaken the legendaries in the first place

>>26143120
>>after she steals Maxie's Mega Bracelet, he just compliments her battleing skills and gives you the Mega Stone
what a cuck

>>26142291
>>26143056 is right. It basically was a way of keeping even the original games canon, instead of outright replacing them as originally thought. Furthermore, the entire reason the Delta Episode exists in ORAS, and not RSE, is because it can be implied that had they successfully been able to warp to the meteor to another Hoenn Region, then it's likely that the meteor would have had to show up in RSE, as Zinnia implies that it could reach a Hoenn Region "where Mega Evolution doesn't exist." But by stopping the meteor yourself, you avoid doing that entirely, meaning that this event happens only in one universe, while another universe is completely unaware of the impending danger that could have destroyed them. That universe could be the universe in which RSE are the canon Hoenn Events, which is literally a Hoenn Region where Mega Evolution does not exist. It's kind of clever, honestly.

>>26143206
>they could have made this the meteor in Red Rescue Team and canonized the Mystery Dungeon series

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Whats the point in keeping the original games canon anyway?

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>First Fug summoning plan: Nearly unleash the apocalypse by supporting a criminal organization and awakening Kyogre/Groudon
>Second Fug summoning plan: Acquire keystones instead.

The Draconids must be a death cult and Zinnia is their unwitting puppet. There's no other explanation for this stupidity.

>>26143187
That reveal was so bad I tried to remove that fact from my mind. But then you brought it back up.

Delta Episode and everything about it was the rotten cherry on top of the shitheap called ORAS. The lack of Battle Frontier is a non-factor to me since I never played Emerald, ORAS is bad enough regardless.

Why did they have to add in this extra episode just to inform the player that RSE was an alternate universe? FR/LG and HG/SS didn't need to pull this shit.

>>26142729
Lie.
http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1462209760553.png

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>>26142505
THIS MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE

>>26143276
The only reason, why you all hate ORAS because of Battle Frontier.

>>26143187
>>26143263
>>26143276
To be fair, if her people observed the events of RSE Hoenn, and knew about Primals and Mega Rayquaza, she could manipulate the team into doing enough for her without actually endangering the world. Plus she'd have the protagonist to assist her in stopping them if it went too far and Ray didn't cooperate.

I hate zinnia so much.
I learned japanese just so I can post on zinnia hate threads on 2ch

>>26143244
I agree, but shift Gen 6 back a bit. Since we know that BW2 and XY take place the same time.

>>26143276
The Delta episode was awful and like 15 minutes into it I was only playing so I could get to the Maison. It's existence actually makes the game worse. There are probably no redeeming moments in it, besides the awesome setpiece of you flying into space on Fug.

>>26143322
kill yourself

>>26143354
>There are probably no redeeming moments in it, besides the awesome setpiece of you flying into space on Fug.
Too bad they spoiled that part

>>26143322

>forced Mega Evolution bullshit
>legendaries thrown at you left right and center, some even available around the third gym
>absolutely none of Emerald's content
>pretty crappy post-game
>the infamous Gen 6 EXP. share
>The broken disaster that is Primal Reversion
>generally easier difficulty

While players can easily choose not to use these features or ignore the problems, its an insult to the player if they have to go out of their own fucking way to make a game more fun for themselves.

So now, Battle Frontier may be a big issue, but its a small fish in a bag lake.

>>26143120
>Zinnia
>>steals everyone's Mega Stones with no repercussions
Because she has a reason to.
>>is told how awesome of a trainer she is
And she is
>>constantly tells off Steven because she thinks she knows everything
She knows something steven does not, which is the lore of her clan.
>>constantly runs off without explaining everything
She's an antisocial retard, yeah.
>>after she steals Maxie's Mega Bracelet, he just compliments her battleing skills and gives you the Mega Stone
>>turns out to be right all along
If she didnt, you would complain that she was worthless. Not to mention that you miss the important part which is that she wasnt the chosen one as she expected.

>You
>>the chcosen one destined to save the world with a Legendary
>>twice in one game
Chosen one!=sue

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>>26142729
pay attention to the Pokédex.

>>26143144
She was against every other character till the point we know her.motives. Had she been a sue, every character would have loved her from the get go.

>>26143244
As a nod to old players and explain why you can use rse mons in oras.

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>>26142729

Giratina lives in a parallel dimension/parallel universe.

>>26143281
>>26143281
>porygon z
>not gen 4

>>26143457
>literally a gen 4 covermon

>>26143479
>>26143514

>>26143430
>if she didnt, you'd-
Hypothetical shit where you tell me what my opinion is? fuck off

Not to mention, you're also describing reasons for her sue-ness. She randomly is a god tier trainer that appears out of nowhere, with seckret info she decides to not share despite the world being at stake. Hell, several other comments also give you good reasons she's a sue

>>26143244
That pic is wrong, the rse events happen at the same time as frlg.

>>26143565
>>26143565

>Not to mention, you're also describing reasons for her sue-ness. She randomly is a god tier trainer that appears out of nowhere
She appears throgout the plot. Her reasons for not being involved are explained.

>with seckret info she decides to not share despite the world being at stake.
Yes, she's not very comunicative. Not a sue for that. If anything, it's the opposite.

>>26143575

But there's no solid evidence for that. Unless you have genuine proof that R/S/E take place during that time, there's no way OR/AS can exist at the same time.

>>26143636
>>26143636
>
>But there's no solid evidence for that.
The frlg quest and the scenario writer timeline.


>there's no way OR/AS can exist at the same time.
Never said that, they are different universes.

>>26143601
I think we'll just end up disagreeing here, since we seem to interpet the same info in opposite ways. Which is fine.

But I'm really not going to be convinced pretty much every second of Zinnia isnt sue city.

>>26143354
>besides the awesome setpiece of you flying into space on Fug.

What are you talking about? That was the worst part. They send you out to space just to remove a rather small-looking object to be honest. Even with some assumptions it would not cause catclysmic damage (hard to say for certain though due to possibly different parameters)

Pokémon-logic or not, it was just plain retarded to have you sit on mega-Ray while you destroy the asteroid by flying through it.

The only really redeeming thing is that a previously event only mon was available for capture without events. They should continue that trend.