What is your main wish for S&M? I'll start. >main

>>25997925
>being able to fug your team members

>>25997925
you got that in XY. they tried to use a cannon to end the world, it was just powered by a legend that was almost never mentioned prior to the finale and could have just as easily been ten thousand voltorbs

>>25997931
Fuck off

>>25997940
fuck off for saying the truth? xerneas and yveltal had nothing to do with the plot of XY

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>>25997943
>it's not an evil team using a legendary to destroy the world it's an evil team using the power of a legendary to destroy the world so that means it's original!

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>>25997943
>had nothing to do
>was used to power aforementioned canon

>>25997952
>>25997954
except you dont know that until the fight starts, and it isnt mentioned or explained afterwards either.

the plot isnt about it at all

>>25997967
Except XY is shit.

>>25997925
>Key Items replace HMs
>HMs turn to TMs
>Story on level with Gen 5
>Less cringy rivals
>Seasons
>Proper Day/Night cycle
>150+ Dex entries

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A ferret Pokémon.

>>25997954
>>25997952
Heads up, they didn't seek the legendary out to power it they just came across it.
They could have just used pokemon in general to power the thing

>>25997925
You got that in five generations you retard.

>>25997979
Is this bait? What is Furret?

>>25997974
i didnt say it was good. just that the plot doesnt center on an evil team obtaining a legend to end the world

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Some types are altered a bit.

>Grass now resists Fairy, and is no longer resisted by Flying.
>Ice now resists Water and Dragon, and loses its weakness to Rock.
>Psychic is now super effective against Fairy.
>Poison is now super effective against Water.
>Bug now resists Dark and is no longer resisted by Fighting.

>>25997997
ice should resist grass
grass should resist poison, have you ever actually tried to kill a weed? i dare you to kill a kudzu vine.

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>>25997978
>>Story on level with Gen 5
I'd sure love cutscenes interrupting the game every 10 steps and a map designed as a straight line to allow for the easy placement of the aforementioned cutscenes.

>>25997943
>>25997954
>>25997967
>>25997980
Holy fuck, XY was such a shit story. Neither of the legendary mascots was delved deep enough whatsoever besides one fucking dude explaining obvious points about each. They basically just show up at the end, take their check, and call it a day. Remember the build up in BW where details about the mascots were sprinkled throughout the entire story? Where you traversed Dragonspire Tower to see N befriend the opposite legendary, then use it against you in the final fight.

>>25998021

>ice should resist grass

No. Grass is already resisted by seven types.

>>25998024
Eh, that sounds pretty good considering how shit pokemon was in gen 2 and 1 in that regard.
That said they shouldn't be done like they were in gen 4.

>>25998024
Still better than cringe dialogue from 4 rivals arguing over what your nickname will be

>>25998035
get rid of some of them. bug doesnt need to resist it and neither does dragon or steel.

>>25998024
I don't like that either but at least in 5 it had a story alongside it unlike 6.

>>25998049
>considering how shit pokemon was in gen 2 and 1 in that regard.
That's like saying Gen 1 and 2 were shit at being soccer games.

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>>25997997
>getting asspained over Faeries STILL

>>25997989
Furret is ugly and a dumb fur weasel.
Ferret > Weasel

>>25998028
>RSE and one
>people complain about legendaries being used for the plot, "bring back the feeling of adventure!"
>XY
>people complain about legendaries NOT being used for the plot, "bring back the legendaries!"
You people are never happy. They gave you what you wanted and you aren't happy.

>>25998068
Of course not, they're shit at being RPGs.

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>>25998054
I think we should call him "Big D!"

>>25998089
Why are you even here?

>>25998102
Because Gen 1 and 2 aren't the only Pokemon games.

>>25998069

>Suggesting that Fairies have another weakness in a post detailing many other type changes is getting asspained.

Why are you so triggered?

>>25997925
I hope the make the Pokemon not washed out looking anymore.

>>25998089
But they're good at being Pokemon games, aren't they? RPGs need plot and plot is not what you'd play pokemon for, at least not one that is given more importance than exploring the world.

Romance options that cater to my seuxality

>>25998133
>my seuxality
Shut up special snowflake

>>25998024
>I'd sure love cutscenes interrupting the game every 10 steps a
So gen 6?q

>>25998133
I need a furry trainer class option

>>25998139
?

>>25998124
>But they're good at being Pokemon games, aren't they?
Eh, I'd say so-so at best. Especially Gen 2 where there wasn't much to explore.

>RPGs need plot and plot is not what you'd play pokemon for
Black and White proved that you can have both plot and exploration so why do we have to pick between the two?

>>25998147
>?
>Being that dumb

>>25998150
>Black and White proved that you can have both plot and exploration
It proved that if you want an elaborate plot you can't have so much as a puddle of water to surf through between your house and the league and that EVERY ROAD MUST BE BLOCKED until you beat team plasma for the Nth time.

>>25998124
>XYfags will keep using ">playing Pokémon for plot" as an excuse
>when Kanto had Mewtwo journals
>when Johto had Ecruteak City
>when Hoenn had Regis chamber
>when Sinnoh had the library

>>25998156
>thinking this spam is funny

What are you 5?

>>25998171
>It proved that if you want an elaborate plot you can't have so much as a puddle of water to surf
That's because they were all optional, and that's how it should be.
You can either just progress or explore the area around you.

>>25998183
Sinnoh and johto have the thickest plot of any game. ORAS bulked up Hoenn's story exponentially.

>>25998193
To be fair I only needed strength and surf in XY, and those are the two best HM's

>>25998193
Having HMs optional besides that one tree at the Dreamyard was an excellent idea.

An owl thats not a generic bird mon. They could emphasize the spookyness and make it flying and ghost, or make it another flying and fighting type

>>25998195
>Sinnoh plot
>thick
The only thick thing here is your head. Anyway the plot was just RSE on crack. It had lore out the ass but it was extremely dull and didn't really tie into any current going ons within the game.
Johto is the same deal but lower the actual plot to next to nothing.

Plot and lore wise Gen 5 and ORAS stand as the kings.

>>25998035
It makes sense for ice to resist it what's a fuckin leaf going to do to a block of ice
Ice freezes the leaf causing it to be brittle and snap it makes logical sense
So does bug since bugs eat grass
Dragon doesn't have a coronation like that so dragon shouldn't resist

>>25998228
>It makes sense for ice to resist it what's a fuckin leaf going to do to a block of ice
A tree can easily crack ice but the cold kills trees.

>>25998226
Is the lore in ORAS only postgame? I've finished the main story and I didn't notice much difference besides Megas exist and Archie has an admin that mumbles "maybe flooding the world isn't the best idea"

>>25998188
?

>>25998243
No, there's several places that tie lore into the plot the big one being Sea Mauville.
Which reveals that Devon are the worst company in the entirety of Pokemon because they sap the energy from pokemon to create infinity energy and that Wattson, who used to work for Devon, (supposedly) opposed this and defected.
Which explains why he's an electric leader, he's looking for alternative energy sources to infinity energy.

>>25998264
steven secret evil team leader

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>>25998226
>Burned tower and Legendary beasts
>Ruins of Alph
>Silver and Giovanni
>The changes over the course of rby to gsc
>Next to nothing

what

>>25998264
It would be so sick if the villainous team was the Sliph Co of that region instead of a boring gang/cult that stumbled onto a God.

>>25998290
>>Burned tower and Legendary beasts
Three beasts fought, scared off Lugia, died and then were revived by Ho-oh.
That's it.

>>Ruins of Alph
>It's fucking nothing

>>Silver and Giovanni
Angsty teen and evil father
Not much there.

>>The changes over the course of rby to gsc
How is any of that lore?

If they gave you more on the beasts and the ruins of Alph it would be passable, there's nothing to it though.

>>25998255
?

>>25997925
Your wish will never come true.

There will be always be a evil team trying to control to a legendary Pokémon.

>>25998316
the beasts didn't scare off lugia, the tower was struck by lightning, which represents Raikou, Caught on fire, Entei, and was put out by the rain, Suicune. Three pokemon died in the fire and were ressurected by Ho-oh, and they were revived in the forms of the disaster that killed them, there is more to is and I think its pretty cool.

More than anything I want to ability to go to another region after you beat the Elite four. Sinnoh preferred just cause its my favorite region next to Kanto

>>25998373
You are aware that headcanon =/= lore right?

>>25998405
you are aware this is information explicitly stated in crystal version right?

>>25998457
It's not though and even if it did Crystal has been rendered non canon.

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>>25998488
>hurr durr, the main series isnt canon

>>25998074
Buizel is a weasel, Furret is a ferret.

>>25998508
>implying the remade games except for ORAS haven't replaced the previous canon
Also where's the part where the Pokemon were changed into Raikou, Suicune and Entei?

A bigger focus on side characters and side plots rather than a main story that railroads you through the towns.

A good game.

>>25998537
>lightning strikes the tower
raikou #243
>fire burns the tower
entei #244
>rain douses the flames
suicune #245

nothing from crystal regarding the beasts was changed in HGSS. crystal and HGSS replace the GS canon

>>25998568
>>lightning strikes the tower
>raikou #243
>>fire burns the tower
>entei #244
>>rain douses the flames
>suicune #245
Okay, so where's the part about them not being Suicune, Raikou and Entei before the "accident".

Much more freedom, and I mean an adventure where 3 or 4 people aren't following you and giving you tours around every single town.

>>25998608
I feel like a Pokemon game made by Atlus could do that.

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>>25998583
>btfo

>>25998669
>nothing about them not being Suicune, Raikou or Entei
If anything that just confirms they were the same prior.

>>25998704
>they were nameless
>they were revived
>they became raikou, entei, suicune

>>25998720
>>they were nameless
>>they were revived
>>they became raikou, entei, suicune
Literally nothing implies that they weren't raikou, entei or suicune prior to their death.

>>25998732
they were nameless.
then they had names. names of known species not individual nicknames.

>>25998740
So they were named after the fact, what's your point?

>>25998745
Holy shit this fucking kid
This is a widely accepted part of the lore senpai, stop making anon jump through hoops to prove it to you and do some googling

>>25998772
>This is a widely accepted part of the lore senpai
It's literally a headcanon.

The two brothers is part of the Unova lore
The fight between Primal Groudon and Kyogre is part of the Hoenn lore.
Them not being the beasts prior to dying is NOT part of the lore and just because it's popular doesn't mean it is.

>>25998745
Listen up you dense autist, there's nothing to support either side of the theory because GameFreak cannot into worldbuilding.

There's a lot of support for the theory that they were Eevee evolutions, but it's very unlikely that it will ever get confirmed or debunked. Now fuck off and move along with your day.

Megas cut down (if there are any) and over 100 new Pokemon.

>>25998787
>There's a lot of support for the theory that they were Eevee evolutions
see >>25998783
Specifically
> just because it's popular doesn't mean it is.

Also you should be direct that at the retard that thinks it was confirmed and canon you dumbass.

>>25997997

I agree that Ice is too weak so giving it more resistances is fine, and that Water is a little strong so giving it a weakness to Poison is a good way to nerf it a little and buff Poison at the same time.

But Bug, Psychic and Grass, whiel they are weak types, have lots of good Pokémon. It's OK if some types are nerf types that can be given to Pokémon with good stats, abilities and move pools.

>secret base
>pokemon following with amie
>more open/less linear/more unique map
>more player customization
>no rival, friends do shit besides battle
>antagonist(s) that aren't a "team"
>only like 50-80 new pokemon, emphasis on new evolutions/preevolutions
>no more than 5 new legendary, make them actually hard to find (but still doable)
>legendaries not on box art
>time/weather system
>simpler designs for new pokemon, evolution lines that actually make sense
>6-10 move slots, equip for to use in battle
>more visual variations (region, gender, age)
>overhauled breeding system
>pokewalker-like functionality, either through the 3ds' built in pedometer or a tamogatchi-style app, maybe pokemon go

Multiple save files PLEASE

My main wish is no customization.

>>25997925
>Being able to say simple sentences
>Simplistic pokemon designs
>Battle frontier
>Swellow evolution
>Older protagonist

>>25997929
Fpwp nuke this board

>>25998829

That's completely retarded logic and doesn't help the numerous terrible examples of those types that have already been fucked over.

>>25997925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mMG096UqE0

>>25997925
>What is your main wish for S&M?
To have a great rival like Hugh again. XY's rivals were fucking shit.

>>25997925
First pokemon in your team follows you around and you can interact with it

Rechallengeable gyms

Battle frontier area with multiple game modes. I actually enjoyed the 3 pokemon team switching, choose a door random battles, etc in emerald's battle frontier. Now it's all the same generic battle types.

>>25998077
>implying everyone has the same opinion

>>25998074
what is linnone or whatever

A Balanced Metagame
[spoiler/]and also rape[/spoiler]

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>>25997979

>None of that forced friendship trash that happened in X and Y
>No more of a focus on an evil organization, there can be one but they're not the main focus (Rocket in Gen 1 and 2)
>Less handholding and freemons
>Models to have more life to them, they were too static and dull in X and Y
>A region that isn't laid out to be progressed in a circle
>Buff more shitmons, not just stats but Hidden/Second abilities and move pools

>>25997925
It being 6.5, mainly
I dont really care about the rest

Do everything opposite of X and Y

>>25997925
Not really a dream for Sun/Moon, more so an ideal Pokemon game.

>massive region, introduced over 100 pokemon, but also has a large amount of Pokemon from all other regions.
>The game revolves around a central hub city, were the player starts out and picks their starter.
>No forced friends or rivals, just a bunch of NPCs that you can talk to an befriend, somewhat like AC.
>They all have different ambitions (breeder, contest, champion)
>The central city connects to the other 8 largest cities, which are the cities with Gyms.
>You can take fast travel roads to the cities, or you can take other paths, with a bunch of twisting and branching paths, all with a variety of Pokemon. Pokemon levels are not as fixed, so one little segment of forest can have lvl 1-10, and then the portion below it 20-30, you have a little item you can use that gives you a vague description ("not much of a challenge", "turn back, it's dangerous here!"), and so in general the world is much more open.
>The system that creates the random teams for the post-game of most games is used to create random NPC trainers in different zones, you have to talk to people to challenge them now, to offset this, wild Pokemon xp is lowered, but battles have better yields.
>EVs can be more directly controlled, you can enter a screen that lets you choose what state you want you Pokemon to train, all evs go to that stat, xp, and maybe another stat is lowered a bit while you train.
>Gyms can be fought in any order, and the Gym leaders have multiple teams that match your strongest Pokemon in party
>When you beat one Gym leader, the other gyms lock up until you complete certain quest in the next city you want, or just by exploring leveling, catching, or finding new places and Pokemon

Just in general, the game should be about exploring.

>>26002442
Also, no story, or evil team. and the game should be scaled so that you're very high level by the end, when you can fight the e4.

There should also be little quest you can do repeat every once in a while, like one were someone tells you they saw a strange Pokemon in x area, and when you go an find it, if you find the clues that lead you to it, it gives you options to choose what Pokemon.

Like the NPC tells you he saw a shiny Pokemon, and when you first reach it, you get a random small selection of Pokemon to choose, and what ever you choose, you get a shiny of that. Maybe even let you make "observations" as you try to track down the Pokemon, that lets you decide whether they looked strong (decide IVs), and what abilities or habits it displayed (decide ability).

Like if you get tipped of about a shiny, you reach the first mayor clue, and you decide it's a marril, and so you get a shiny marril, which runs away, leaving clues to find it. Then you write down "oberservations", like it had a protective layer of fat (thick fat), or was unnaturally strong (huge power), displayed modes, timid, adamant behavior, yadda yadda yadda.

>>25998183
For some odd reason my childhood memories mix the Regi stuff with gen 2. Every time I'm reminded that that's not the case, it throws me off.

>>26002434
xD

>>26002434
So... do you want a good game or not?

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I want it to have a bunch of new pokemon and be like B/W in the sense that the region only has the new pokemon. After you beat the game, and hopefully there's lots of content after beating the game, you get to start again (with your pokemon of course) with the region now being like B2/W2, many different gen pokemon available.
I also want my water/ghost bedsheet octopus idea to happen, but I know better than to chase HM05s.
;-;
captcha had me choose pictures of waterfalls. wow.

>>25997925
To be able to transfer pokemon from XY/ORAS without using fucking Pokemon Bank.

>>26003492
I want pokemon bank to be free. If you're already paying for two games, you shouldn't have to pay to keep your zeroes and ones alive.

>>25997925
Retcon fairy and megas.

>>26002434
>no bike path for egg hatching, everything is too jagged
>dwarf fortress tileset graphics
>Pokemon only get any EXP if they 1v1 the opponent
will this make you happy senpai?

>>26003602
If megas were Gen 6 only, how much of a shitstorm would there be?
>inb4 "we won't have to worry about that until after SM, gen 6.5

>>26000819
Never will happen so you have to buy more games.

>>25997925
>A challenge mode you can access from the beginning from the game.

>>26002211
linoone is more of a badger though isn't it?

Can we please have alternate paths in routes? Like a basic road but then other smaller paths through trees that feel like you're really exploring, and you suddenly find yourself in the back of the next city or something.

>>26002442
>>26002518

I feel your pain, but just accept that Pokemon will always bbe the most linear and dumbed down games possible aimed for a core audience that although has grown, will refuse change at any cost

In order of importance:
>Pokemon designs
>Real good post-game
>Interesting areas to explore
Maybe for the rival to be cool.

>>25997925

My main wish is for it to take the good parts of ORAS and scrap the bad parts.

Tho it will most likely take tha bad parts because Gamefreak doesn't really care about making a great game anymore.

>hard mode
>grass starter that isnt shit

>>25997925
Exploring into another Region with a lot of stuff to do in it.

>>26005225
What good parts?
Not shitposting, I just haven't played ORAS.