Who was worse? This faggot or Tobias? Which one was the

>>25948224
That faggot.
While Tobias came out of nowhere he was at least competent.

>>25948224
At least you can justify Ash losing to Tobias and his legendaries. Tobias had bullshit advantages, sure, but justifiable still.

Now THAT faggot bullshit there is no excuse for.

>>25948224
Remove this faggot

>>25948224
Jesus titty fucking Christ. That has o be one of the most uninspired designs ever for the anime.

This literal retard had only five Pokémon and pulled out a Pokémon with a quad weakness against Ash's twice (Ferrothorn vs Pignite and Swanna vs Pikachu). And won through pure bullshit.

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>>25948224
utter bullshit

Did Ash seriously enter the Unova with unevolved mons. I thought we were passed this.

>>25948286
Maybe they were holding eviolites

Cameron is worse because we're supposed to take him seriously while Tobias was just an obvious middle finger to the audience.

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>>25948224

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>>25948286

Nope

I bet the anime general or whatever was on suicide watch after the Cameron battle.

>>25948384
The anime was almost never discussed when BW aired here and everybody hated the anime so people didn't give much of a shit other than "of course that bullshit would happen".

>>25948286
We are now at least.

>>25948286
Well...he fought Tobias with a Gible as one of mons.

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>>25948224
Just like >>25948247 said. Tobias felt like he was unbeatable, the other faggot was just the living embodiment of plot armor, stupidity and retardness. i mean, come on, the Unova League being held in Johto or whatever shit? I bet his little retard couldn't even lace his shoes by himself.

>>25948262
Looks like he came straight from a Level-5 wannabe shitty game.

>>25948519
Gible was pretty strong though.
I remember Tobias saying something like its Draco Meteor could have beaten anyone else except his Darkrai

The whole Unova league was a train wreck
>Ash has the shittiest team of all time
>Main rival battle was 1 v 1; Pikachu vs Serperior
>FUCKING CAMERON

>>25951206
That champion tho.

Gen 4 rival battle was the GOAT

>>25951206
>The Ash vs Trip finale was cancer incarnate
>Bianca vs Cameron was plot armor incarnate
>Ash vs Cameron was plot armor incarnate
>Ash vs whatever his name is being the only decent battle in the whole league
>Cameron being really fucking annoying during his own 1v1 battle
>Ferrothorn gets hit
>"Ferrothorn why'd you let that happen?" as he says in an irritating whiny voice

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>>25951285

>>25951285
And don't forget that this faggot lose next to an all eeveelution team.

>>25948224
>watches the anime
>still considers anythign to be "dissapointing"
You fags deserved Tobias and this guy for not learning your lesson.

>>25951206
The entire show is a trainwreck, why even get bothered by this?

Reminder that any episode where Ash loses a battle is non-canonical.

>>25951423
You wish

>>25951403
>plays the games
>still considers anything to be "disappointing"
You fags deserved no battle frontier or no post game for not learning your lesson.

>>25951469
What are you even doing here then?

>>25951420
t. hasn't watched it for at least 6 years

>>25951489
>Implying still watching it is something to be proud of

>>25951476
Why are you here in this thread? You have no reason being here.

BW was a shit season. It was all a nightmare Ash had while sleeping on the plane on the way to Kalos, he never went to Unova.

>>25951502
I am on /vp/ because I like the pokemon franchise. This is part of it.

>>25951499
>implying doing anything with pokemon is something to be proud of

Judging shit that you have decades old info about will always be extremely retarded no matter what the situation.

So overall we agree that Unova was the worst league in the series?
That and the battle with Ritchie in the first season. That was also pure BS.

>>25951516
Same here. You understand know how stupid your question was?

>>25951521
>implying doing anything with pokemon is something to be proud of
I never said that, but if you like pokemon, it's worth keeping up with the games.

>Judging shit that you have decades old info about will always be extremely retarded no matter what the situation.
Please tell me how I'm wrong? Is Ash still a kid that can't become a pokemon master?

>>25951538
>likes the pokemon franchise
>doesnt like the games
Does not compute

>>25948224
Tobias was introduced to set a bar for Ash. He will 100% make a return and we will see his full team.

Cameron was just a dumb mistake. It made me angrier the fact he lost to a team of Eevees. Fucking disgusting kiddo

>>25951206
It's a shame a great Pokemon like Krookodile was stuck in the shittiest season of the Pokemon anime.

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>>25951638
>he thinks this show is planned in advance

>>25951644
He'll make a return one day.

>>25951638
I'd rather see his backstory, getting at least 2 legendaries must be worthy of an explanation.

>>25951538
Stop coping an attitude and being condescending towards other people

Damnit /vp/ be nice

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>>25948224
>tfw Tobias has a Regigigas
>we get to hear his glorious anime cry

>>25948224

They're both better than the idiots we've seen in XY

>>25951206
And let's not forget literally the Stamp Rally Episode 2.0 where Aexw gets lost again, in the middle of the fucking league.

Fuck the Unova League and everything about it. Literally more offensive than Pearl Harbour.

>>25948224
that bastard is worse, at least Tobias becomes champion, that idiot lose to a fucking eevee team

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>>25952993

That guy was a badass

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>>25948623
He said if it had hit, it would've ended his Darkrai.

>>25948384
>being a newfag

>>25953329
Imagine if Ash evolved it to a Garchomp

At least Tobias was introduced to show how far Ash has come. Which is probably why they had him use a mix of his Pokemon in that round.

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>>25951285
It's pretty sad too because the first 20 or so episodes were really good. Also, Steffen was the best character.

>>25953739
Agreed. I stopped pretty early in the BW anime so I have very favourable memories of it

>>25951711
>There will never be a Tobias spin off of his character arc from being a Gary Oak knockoff to unbeatable hell machine that meets Ash
>The anime can and will never into a good plot because it still makes profit somehow

>>25948224
Cameron is based on Nate, so he is easily the worst.

>>25953823
>>The anime can and will never into a good plot because it still makes profit somehow
The anime doesn't need to have a good plot because it already meets its main goal of advertising the series as a whole. Do you really think they're going to love out the new Zygarde forms and Greninja's synchro fusion in Sun and Moon?

Unova never happened it wasn't canon it was a horrible fever dream. Ash never went to unova.

>>25953219
Virgil and his brother are such semen demons, would fug them and let them fug me in a row like a baton pass chain anytime, better than Hilbert / 10.

>>25957054
I am sorry. It only serves one purpose for me. It is a laundry list of everything that can possibly go wrong. It is instrumental to the enjoyment of anything. The more something doesn't do any of this, the more they aren't just a pile of trash to be ignored.

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>>25953824
Nate? As in this Nate?

So they made Cameron with the sole intent of mocking Yo-Kai Watch by making him literally the dumbest retard to ever exist, then they had him defeat Ash? Isn't that basically saying that your franchise is better than ours?

What the fuck were they smoking when they wrote the Unova League?

>>25953739
I like Steffen, but fuck that name gag. It would have been OK if they did it once an episode, but they did it literally every time someone said his name, regardless of how many times it was said in a single episode.

>>25957350
Running gags like this are the lowest form of humour.

>>25957370
Except Botch, that's the only acceptable one.

>>25957370
And because the Japanese are all robots that have to have everything set out in an exact pattern, they eat it up.

>>25948224
Honestly Tobias felt like a self-insert created by a teenage boy.
>tall handsome man with long hair
>wears a fucking CAPE
>smirks mysteriously and has "nothing personel kid" personality
>has at least 2 legendaries
>one of them is fucking Darkrai aka edgy incarnate
>the other one is dragon aka kiddie favorite type
I created OCs like this when I was 13.

>>25948623
Has he still got the Gible? A half capable Garchomp would be a fantastic addition to his eventual end game set-up.

>>25958882
He got Gible near the end, there was no time for it to evolve.

>>25951688
It isn't at the moment, sure, but I can easily them hiring a capable producer with a love of the franchise eventually.

>>25958912
But he could go back to it, right?
Actually come to think of, he already has Krookadile for blocking Volt Switches and T.Waves, and that doubles as being a pursuit trapper as well.

>>25948417
>everybody hates
FTFY

>>25957385
>not billy

>>25948224
I want to see Cameron having his shit pushed in by Tobias.

>>25957331
Nah, Black/White 2's male PC.

>>25957536

He was designed that way to make him unlikable, and paint tryhard legendary abusing faggots in a bad light.

>Unova is the laziest season ever
>the kalos episodes right after are maybe the best the anime has ever seen.
how is the switch to new gens even coordinated? Different studios?

>>25958972
He brought Phanpy back so I don't see why not

Wasn't he just another walking Lucario ad?