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/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

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Terrible, terrible damage edition. Old thread >>25764941

SPMD .cia http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw

Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.

Blue, Sky, and an emulator (now comes with rom editor so you can have custom starters): https://mega.nz/#!TUEBhRQY!mfpcugVQp_aVbNVNDoJjElo3c__57V0s6O45ftnMSHQ

/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMINDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American.
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>>25775637
>>25775644
I do like the idea of MC continuity of some degree.
Having someone outright acknowledge it would be pretty interesting.
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Is Mudkip and Pikachu a good combination? Tempted to buy a second copy of Super to try them out
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>>25775680
>mudkip

Guy that was running Mudkip+Skitty a few threads back, don't do it. Mudkip's learnset is atrocious
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So what's the major difference between Time, Darkness and Sky?
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>>25775680
Are there really any bad player/partner combos? Some might lack a lot more synergy than others, but they'd still work.

Also, probably not, since Water's countered by Grass and Electric, which Pikachu can't really cover.
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>>25775694
T/D have mons that aren't found in either version

Sky has every gen 4 pokemon that isn't named Arceus, and has a bunch more additions. There's no reason to emulate T/D ever, because Sky exists.
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>>25775694
Time and Darkness aren't worth playing. Sky has pretty much everything without version exclusivity, plus added content.

>>25775610
>REMINDER
Thank fuck someone finally fixed that shit.
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>>25775715
>>REMINDER
>Thank fuck someone finally fixed that shit.

What's the difference? Looks exactly the same as last thread's
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>>25775726
Spelling. There's no 'n' in the last thread's
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>>25775726
Last thread and quite a few threads before that had REMIDER instead of REMINDER.

the missing N
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>>25775734
>>25775733
Just goes to show how easy these things are to overlook. My bad guys.
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>>25775677
I like to tie in the quiz in a way.
One possibility is that no human was actually ever sent to the pokemon world, rather instead spawning an avatar of sorts from the same template human (the player). There was never any amnesia, the MC just was created with few memories.

The bad future human still needs to be tied in though. Maybe the time travel accident was much worse than what you think.
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I guess you could say Primal Dialga is... frozen in time.
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>>25775787
Boooooooo
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>>25775708
>>25775715
Also there are items that are exclusive to either version in T/D, but Sky has all of them.
Also T/D needs you to recruit Palkia to evolve the starters.
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>>25775785
that's a rather interesting idea, but it doesn't competely solve the disconnect about the MC having so many thoughts of its own. I wonder how can that even be made to fit in?
>>25775787
>pic related
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>>25775809
well, if I'm already editing the starters, then I wouldn't need that, but how does Sky handle that?
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>>25775787
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>>25775872
If the pokemon has no portrait for the emotion the game would normally show, none shows. Most pokemon only have one, not counting story related pokemon. If there's a special animation, it uses the walking animation.

Pic related, Wooper has a few, but not all of them.
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Wooper for bomb squad
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Level 1 dungeons inbound?
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>>25775824
Of course for the MC to be able to work independently, it needs past knowledge, experience and memories. Those all coming from the human it was spawned from.
Just enough memories to work, and nothing much else.
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Ayy I finished Ears. Don't worry, it's only 69,361 words

Here's chapter 6, latest and final
http://pastebin.com/prtghm8v

Here's the rest of the shit
http://pastebin.com/LvRytq80
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>>25775555
>>25775548
>>25775530
>game automatically aggregates all previous teams from your saves, if they exist on the 3ds
>your previous teams are the same evo as you left them
>they're also so powerful they're basically the high council of HAPPI, you can take missions with them
>can visit your paradise too, it's a bustling city, basically

>story and postgame emphasize guilds going on long expeditions, to keep the fun of those long times going
>generated expeditions to get rare treasures and discover new places
>all of the magical treasure missions are guild expeditions

i really want more cool shit
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this should be fun
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It's kinda strange how the Deep Sea Tunnel and Temple Remains have almost the exact same rage-inducing pokemon as the Sacred Ruins.

A little too strange...
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>>25776273
>tiny woods revisitable
It's a completely useless dungeon, but this alone would be a nostalgia overdose.
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>>25776341
CUTE TEAM
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>>25776361
I do want all previous dungeons visitable

but it might be a bit too much? i guess it's only tilesets... i dunno, and there wouldnt be much point

maybe dlc of old dungeons or something, but im kinda glad they dropped dlc for super
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>>25776341
>buneary
Enjoy never having a hold item for it.
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Get Gates to Infinity, finish Sky, or skip to Super?

I beat BRT and Explorers of Time, but never Sky. Started it up but I dunno if it's worth going through the story again.
Super has everything I could ever want and more, and Gates disappointed me with how small the roster was, but a lot of people seemed to think Gates is worth a purchase, especially if I can get it for like 5-10 bucks. The DLC is a non-issue, since I'll def get it if it's not priced too high. How should I go through all this, though? Leaning on skip Sky, get Gates, and then Super after, but if Gates isn't short enough, I'm worried of getting burnt out.
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>>25775610
What happened there? A win for a prize ticket?
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>>25776445
The DLC for Gates is super inconsequential.

>>25776468
Big Win
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>>25776054
Dude, I hurt.
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>>25776445
There's no harm in getting Gates if you can get it for cheap. Not saying it's worth that little, but that's how it is when you're interested in buying a game people don't think is that good. The less you spend on a game you might not like, the less burned you'll be if you're right.

If you already have Sky, I'd say start over and finish it. It's pretty good. No harm in playing after Super though, that's what I did.
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>>25776054
This hurts and heals at the same time.
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>as accurate as discharge
>less pp
>"twice the power" according to stars
>but base power means fuckall

Why would anybody ever use this move?
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>>25776511
>>25776530
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Just try hitting me now, enemies
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>>25776564
CHERISHING
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>>25776564
10/10 protectable smile
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>>25776564
so what are you gunna do now that your life's work, your magnum opus, so to speak, is done[/hyperbole]
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>>25776844
Make a thing for FE:F for Lilith snuggling
Then make some things for Poppy O'Possum
Probably get a job somewhere in the middle of hose
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>>25776860
aww I suppose no more pmd stuff then?
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>>25775610
Can someone die in some dungeon that isnt zero isle so I can for once save someone and see what it feels like to rescue someone? PMD explorers.

>being this desperate
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>>25776877
Maybe
You dunno, kunt. Nobody know nuffin. Who knows what happens to that Larvesta once they grow up?
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>>25776916
im almost tempted to write my own stories again, but i only like porn stories and am also extremely unproductive these days because i hate everything i do
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>>25776445
Buy Gates to Infinity if you don't spend much on it. Pirate the DLCs.
Play Sky all the way through.
Then play Super.
Don't play Gates to Infinity, just put it in front of you and be proud that you bought it.
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>>25776955
Chapter 6 could have easily been lewdcity if I wanted it to be. Does that count as a porn story?

Just go get ravaged in the writethread until git gud happens naturally.
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>>25776445
GtI is definitely worth playing if you're willing to accept that it's the most flawed game on the series.

That said, go in sequence - Sky, GtI, then Super.
You'll appreciate the easter eggs and yearn for the continuity this way.
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>>25776985
i dunno kissing is pretty lewd (not really though)

i liked ears, the team dynamic was cute, and the emotional parts gripped me enough and were really believable

but yeah im okay with it not being lewd, i can just leave that up to my imagination, even though I kinda doubt I'll even think about them in that way
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>>25777017
Eh, wait until they're 2nd stage at least. Surely the bone zone awaits whenever a beloved special doggo becomes a lewdo braixen.
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So, I've done like, 90% of Red Rescue
I've gotten all the legendaries except for fucking Deoxys and the two level 1 dungeon legends
what else should I do?
oh right, I guess I should save Medicham and Gardevoir or something.... but after that, what should I do?
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>>25777066
for me i like it better if they're first stage

i guess that's kinda creepy, but i just like chibi-ish things more
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>>25776895
SMD or EoS?
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>>25777088
>>PMD Explorers
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>>25777087
Well, I did make a borderline thing once in the middle of the night for no good reason

You can have it if you want, you lewdo

http://pastebin.com/D9HqGSQB
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>>25776054
>leave for a month
>come back just in time for this
>hurt all over again

it was all worth it for that ending fuck my heart
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>>25777158
at this point I'd die for more cute or cutely lewd situations like this

what the fuck has /vp/ done to me
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>>25777111
sorry I didn't see that

Here's a code for you to rescue me:

&X5Q9& 69+1-5 66JPC&
4%P&Y# NYFCFP N9R&HS
M+8+1X 23WH2P 0#43M1

It's in Temporal Tower
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>>25777087
>i guess that's kinda creepy
Why?
or a better question
How is it any different?
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>>25777252
Here you go senpai.
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>>25777086
Beat Purity Forest
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>>25776054
Ahh, good, thanks for the link to the whole thing anon. After finishing my own thing a few months ago, it's nice to kick back and read other people's stuff.
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>>25776895
The problem is if i die, it's going to be wither there on cart, or elsewhere on an emulator. And I can just rescue myself on an emulator, since i have the cart.

Tell you what, if it happens on emu again, I'll think of you, give you a shot before giving up and rescuing myself
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>>25777331
Thanks~

And here's your Thank You Mail pass:
61+NJC &FJH58 &4%1M9
F20&9R H0J-41 -YJ-C+
F+3J3P C+#29- =89R49
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>>25777394
Thanks friendo <4
time to fail to clean out my inventory
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c-can I just go on to Sky? I don't like this dungeon
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>>25777595
NO
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>>25777609
but, everyone hates Medicham
and we hate Gengar even more
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>>25777619
NO
DO THE THING
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>>25777595
K E C L E O N

Or if you're too casual to get one, A L A K A Z A M
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>>25777637
what's Kecleon's recruit rate?
Also, I guess I could get Alakazam
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>>25777662
.01%, at level 90+ holding a Friend Bow.

Abra spawns asleep in Solar Cave, so bring Xray Specs and look for nonmoving red dots. It's level 16, so have a Link Cable. Also, have Gravelrocks, and a Frustration TM for Zam.
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>>25777662
-33.9% in Rescue Team, -49.5% in Explorers. >>25777673 has the percentage chance with all the stars aligning.
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>>25777682
Reminder you aren't a true explorer until you've gotten one
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>>25777662
I assume Alakazam because teleport
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excuse me?
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>>25777754
from what I think, certain foods make it so your belly goes down slower, like Huge apple would be the best, because it's the largest
pretty sure
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>>25777754
1 hunger for every 5 steps, double that of normal. According to bulbapedo it can let you resist Grimy Food effects sometimes. Only shuckle/Zigzagoon line has it in those games.

If you want one of these, don't make it the leader.
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>>25777266
ive had people say to me before "oh you like to lewd the first stages more? you pedo" when im not even thinking of it in that way
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>>25777637
so, why Alakazam?
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I got bored as fuck with SMD after the "Giratina" battle
Does the game pick up?
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>>25777840
For people that are too casual to get Kecleon, Zam's the next best choice. High start stats, and it gets Teleport. Enter Wish Cave with this mon, gravelrocks, a Warp/Pass Scarf combo, and spam warp, and even someone that sucks hard can get to at least 20F.
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>>25777877
and then, what's the advantages of kecleon?
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>>25777866
yes
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>>25777924
It gets good stats and levels up pretty quickly. Unlike Alakazam, it can actually fight against the Pokémon in the later floors instead of having to run away.
It also gets Fury Swipes, which is multi-hitting and therefore broken and Screech, which is good for linking moves to because it completely demolishes enemies' Defense.
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>>25777924
Lower start stats. but gets amazing levelups. Due to level having an effect on damage outside stats, a level 14 kecleon which has the same stats as a level 7 Zam in the same time will always outdamage Zam.

It gets actual moves learned from levelup. It gets range, it gets multihit, it gets Screech. It gets a good ability, and it gets high PP attacks. Using a team of Kecleon/Charizard/Wooper, I have a 100% success rate, for a 99 floor trip, and i've done it at least 15 times. Just take a look at that level 1 dungeon guide in the OP, I made that.
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>>25777967
Here's how level affects damage in Rt/Explorers. The effect is much greater and noticeable in RT.
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I'm playing Red Rescue team right now and
>partner dies
>you die
simply y
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>>25777967
I should note, using Kecleon in a level 1 dungeon in Sky is a mistake.
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>>25777331
Dont take my rescue missions ;_;

>>25777394
Thanks for the attempt. Anon took it instead of me.
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>>25777978
oh all of Articuno's attacks (aside from standard) are a one hit kill on me or my partner. And there's no way to get any more reviver seeds unless one happens to spawn... What a fucking predicament.
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>>25777967
>>25777981
So, basically Kecleon breaks the game so hard in Red and Blue
right now, I'll have to get Abra though, not quite level 90 yet, and there's no reason to try if it's not possible to get
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>>25778068
tl;dr, Zam runs are quick and dangerous, Jirachi can kill you. Kecleon runs are slow and safe, you can ko Jirachi in one Screech+Fury Swipe link.

Don't bother bringing much food in, Wish Cave is absolutely LOADED with Huge Apples. I only bring a tight belt so i can farm Skarmory for exp on floors 18-19, but if you're only aiming for 20, you dont need to.
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>>25778056
Ah wait looks like I can go back to the entrance after all. Welp, goodbye seeds.
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Getting that all important storage upgrade. Can't wait for the next IQ skill.
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It's already that time?
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It's like having a Luminous Orb every floor, i love it.
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>>25778252
Whats that?
I use x ray scopes but they show items, not maps
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>>25778268
Map Surveyor IQ skill
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>>25778268
Map Surveyor. Combine this with Xray Specs and it's exactly like having a permanent Luminous Orb, minus the stairs being seen. But Wooper also gets Stair Sensor, so you can eliminate half the map a lot of the time.
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sick moveset sick pokemon
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>>25778286
woops forgot image
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>>25778293
Damn, nice moveset. Shame it was probably hatched, I'd have loved to tested that out in a level 1 dungeon.
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>>25778297
yeah thats an egg recruit
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>the pokemon on the team known for using Charge gets this
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dunsparce is cool
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Once you graduate the missions actually start paying out with actual points, this outlaw one netted me 600.

>>25778339
Shame about run away
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>>25777248
Don't you worry, I'm just as much a degenerate for even writing it. It's not like anyone asked me to, I don't even know what came over me to give form to the thought. I like the attention and setting I guess.
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it's not like any other good missions are available
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>>25778392
And instantly after, I get this, probably the best IQ skill in the game that isn't based around stat boosting or legendary exclusive.
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continuing on my PSMD playthrough, now that i've gotten to lively town, things sure seem to be taking a turn for the better, shame the game's plot seems to be over halfway already though.
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>>25778434
The story only gets better and better as the game goes on. And I actually liked the beginning of the game. Serene village and school is comfy.
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IT BEGINS

Also it just hit me, a female Drifblim is probably the best choice for ZIS, due to the tiny bit of extra evasion females get. Hell, female for any pokemon really.
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>>25778451
females get extra evasion? is it just innate to the gender?
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Articuno didn't join
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>>25778465
Yes. Females get increased evasion and males/genderless Pokémon get an increased critical hit rate.
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>>25778465
According to the book that came with preorders of Time/Darkness, males have a higher crit rate, and females have a higher evade rate. I had the pic i took of it, but i misplaced it and am too lazy to search through this SD card
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>>25778472
>>25778478
thats pretty interesting i wonder how many other mechanics i dont know about exist in this game
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>>25778446
it was comfy, but i felt like it was missing some things...
my heart practically jumped out of me when i picked up a heavy box on my way to the town
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>>25778494
The gender of wild pokemon in Explorers depends on the floor number. Odd=male, Even=female
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ZERO ISLE EAST take 2
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>>25778507
oh shit i think i noticed the floors being gender exclusive a while back but i forgot about it
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>>25778511
First time ever bringing Skuntank into one of these places. It sucks, 1 attacking move and crap stats. Aftermath worries me, i'm ditching it instantly
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>>25778478
Add to the fact Smoochum is always female and has Forewarn, and you have an extremely evasive mon. Give it a Detect Band for the highest evasion this side of +10 evasion Drifblim
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Is there any reason to evolve Pokemon in PSMD? It seems like you'll get every single Pokemon through the Connexus Orb or whatever it's called
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>>25778557
No
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Today's just a great day in PMD
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>>25778494
These games aren't nearly as well-documented as the main series, so there's likely quite a few things we don't know.

You might want to have a look at some of the guides in the OP, could find some interesting bits here and there.
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>>25778583
Some lesser known things i've found.

>Stepping into water removes burns
>Fire types take far less damage from explosions
>Run Away prevents immobilization brought upon by eating Grimy Food
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This is the main thing Smoochum has over Drifblim.
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>>25778605
second fucking time Numel's been sniped offscreen in this dungeon
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>this motherfucker threw the seed at his friend
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>>25778670
Well shit, never seen enemies do that before. They never really seem to interact with each other.
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>>25778705
In over like 800+ hours of playing pmd i've never seen an enemy use a joy seed on another enemy.
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>>25778712
>>25778705
>>25778670
it didn't use it, the scyther picked up the Max elixer, and since it already had an item, it passed over it, graveler didn't, so it picked it up
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>>25778719
>Scyther grabs max elixer
>steps over Joy Seed, can't grab it
>few turns later, Graveler steps on it and grabs it
>fellow enemy Pinsir is within throwing range
>throws it at them to level them up
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Remember how I mentioned the Rare Fossils were for "big threats?" Ghosts in walls apply.
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Some anon wanna do a HUUUUUUGE favor and save me from Triangle Temple?? I'm so close to the end! Literally a step away!
America, btw
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>>25778778
MOTHERFUCKER

>>25778796
I'd do it if it wasn't 5am
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>>25778732
huh, that IS weird, maybe it tried to throw it at the player but hit the pinsir? i have no idea.
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Check out this haul, showing the most notable items.

>>25778818
Why would it throw a Joy Seed at the player? That and they were nowhere near me, didn't even know where they were.
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>>25778796
How difficult is the dungeon? I'm about to go to sleep but...
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>>25778830
i have no idea, guess you could say it's a.. MYSTERY

Also
>PSMD
>Wynaut quest to help take down primape
>get to battle
>first turn, Primape uses final gambit on wynaut
>use one attack, take primape down
>win quest
well ok
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>First time going abroad to a different continent with Archen
>Meet Lapras
>Oh you will need to buy passes before your can board!
>If money is an issue, I'm sure your guardian Archen can pay for them! :^)
>Slow zoom in on Archen's face

Some pretty funny moments in SMD to be honest
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>>25779315
literally just passed that part of the game not too long ago, and i have to agree there are some really funny and charming moments with SMD, especially talking to all the random pokemon
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>>25779457
AND ANOTHER FUN PART
>have just enough money to go to grassy area
>oh boy, 2 quests at the same place!
>first one to fight a pyroar? should be fun!
>enter floor with pyroar
>take one step
>pyroar uses hyperbeam
>faints all 3 members of my team in one go
WELL THEN
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I have come back to the mystery dungeon thread and Im seeing that people are playing sky with custom starters. I see the OP has the emulator, but is there a pastebin or something on how to set everything up for the starters?
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>>25776546
Base power DOES mean things, though. Dig does calamitous damage and it's got max stars.

Also, in the PMD guidebook, there's a list of base powers from 1-22-ish, I don't get where the whole "base powers mean nothing" arguement comes from.
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>>25779761
Because of how the damage formula works, each point of base power contributes slightly less than 0.6 points of damage, which is nothing.
All the charge turn moves have a 2x damage modifier, which is why Dig hits so hard.
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>>25777981
>To next level: 15,020

Holy fucking shit, someone at GF was having a giggle.
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>>25778670
>TFW enemy throws quick seed at drifblim

IT KNOWS
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>>25779702
The link in the OP contains Sky Editor. Just open up your ROM with it and choose your starters.
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>>25778865
Not hard at all, honestly. I just didn't have enough items stored up to take it on and got mobbed. There is a Regi boss every 3rd floor, and only Unnown inbetween.
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Buizel has a cute animation in Sky
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>>25779761
Charge moves in general are real strong, they're the outliers. Maybe I should test the Space Globe i have on cart with it.
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>>25778796
>Just woke up
>Rescue
Oh I miss this
On my way. Just sit tight!
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>>25780855
>>25778796
Yep yep
Have fun with Regigigas. And make sure you have enough Reviver Seeds!
You'll need them
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>>25780935
>Forgot the code
Yep. Adjusting
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>>25780949
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it...
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>>25780949
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>>25780992
>>25781009
Chin up, cowboy. If you go walking in with that sort of attitude, you'll never get far
If you win, then you win. If you lose, then you lose. Don't be a negative nancy; at first you don't succeed, try try again

So chin up, and try your best
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>>25780949
>>25781009
>get rescued
>mentally prepare for incoming boss
>this is my first step towrd the stairs
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>>25780831
Alright, with no Space Globe, a 255 attack Ampharos using Focus Punch deals 639 damage to a Beach Cave Corsola. Holding the Space Globe, it dealt 745 damage. Nowhere near the "doubled power" everywhere claims it gives, but it is an increase. I only got to test each scenario once, every other hit either crit or missed.

I was curious, so I tested it again, this time with a level 96 Kangaskhan with 160 Attack. 580 damage dealt to a Corsola without it. With it. 683 damage. 489 on a Shellos with, 354 without. Damage can vary greatly though, without the Space globe, I've had differences of up to 50 damage, and on another test against a Shellos holding the Space Globe, dealt a measly 393 damage.


Due to the sheer difficulty of actually getting one legit, the sky high base stats required to actually see a difference, and the massive damage range at those levels, the item is almost completely useless. If your stats are high enough to see a difference, you're probably 1shotting everything anyways. If you're using a charge move, you'll see an increase in damage, but it's such a negligible increase that there's no point. You're better off using X-ray Specs, this item's sole purpose is bragging rights.
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>>25781085
>Explorers of Sky
huh
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>>25781085
Also it seems to only show an effect on charge moves. I once tried with a 255 sp attack Wooper, using Water Gun on Geodude, and saw the space globe make me deal even less damage. Even with whatever damage up it gives, it's not enough to take you out of the damage range that not having it has. Lets say a non-charge move's range is 400-450. With the Space Globe, that might go up to 410-460. Again, it's absolutely useless with an increase like that.
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So are yall mostly done with SMD and back playing sky roms? I could never finish sky because partner ai is just too irritatingly retarded.
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>>25781706
If there's a thing SMD did right, was that you don't have to fiddle with the AI settings constantly.
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>>25781722
The thing SMD did wrong was "Let's Go Together" doesn't work the same as it used to. Meaning that if you're to the left of your partner, moving down-right will make the partner step to where you were, not stand still.
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>>25781764
It's not really a big deal since they stay in place if there's an enemy and they're in a good position to attack.
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>>25781722
Yeah, the only time I ever really had to tweak it heavily was during the final battle.

Gotta love that disco dance floor.
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>>25781794
Really? I never had to change it from the default at any point. I guess I was lucky?
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>>25781782
Thing is, it doesn't work quite the same. Follow Me is close, but not exact. It doesn't ruin the game, but still.

>>25781706
There are no repeatable missions in SMD and the level 5 dungeons are unbalanced as fuck.

>lets throw a bellossom on floor 4 that can 1shot a mon that quad resists grass from across the room
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>>25781794
>during the final battle
are you talking about dark matter because I never changed the AI settings and my partner walked off of the disco dance floor and never got hit by that attack
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>>25781794
>>25781808
I never had to tweak it at all either
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>>25781825
I'm with >>25781809 on this one - Let's Go Together really didn't feel the same at all, from big ways (collecting items) to little ways (the way they followed you in the first place).

Like, I was constantly having to set all of my team members to "Follow me" rather than "Let's go together", only switching them back whenever we encountered a room with more than one or two enemies since they wouldn't normally attack them under "Follow me". If anything, I had to do more AI tweaking in Super than any of the other games, because of constantly switching out the Pokemon in my team and anytime we ran into fights. It was really frustrating, honestly.
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>>25781808
>>25781818
>>25781825
I didn't bother taking any chances with the standard AI and used the get away from here/wait there commands on the partner.

Are you seriously telling me that there was no point to that? I thought I was being a goddamn master technician and felt like I was truly working together with my partner for once. Now I feel cheated.
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>>25781889
Yeah. well, for me at least. and the other Anon
Maybe you guys had bad experiences, but I've had everyone on "Let's go Together" and had no issues at all. Especially with Dark Matter
I think the one time I had to switch it was when I (PC) got warped. So I put it on Wait Here and took control of my other two team members to find them
Other from that, everyone's been on "Let's Go Together" since day 1
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>>25781909
>Maybe you guys had bad experiences
Not really. Like I said, only time I ever bothered with it was during the final boss, and it looks like it was useless even then.

The only thing about the new AI that bothers me is how they'll always make a beeline for items, which can get pretty annoying when it's just berries or 5P and all you want to do is escape the room before enemies arrive.
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>Bayleef always wastes PP on mons that don't need to die
>Set AI to "Avoid the first hit"
>Still fires off bullet seeds and razor leaves at sleeping Pokemon

Why even have the option?
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So what is there to do in the Super Mystery Dungeon post-game besides bringing your partner back?
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>>25782097
the ai's avoiding the first hit on itself
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>>25782108
Doing the treasure hunt, though it's not very compelling to do. Collecting Pokemon, though if you're like me and not quite as interested in catching them all as some others, then that might not interesting you either.

Otherwise, it's just dungeons, dungeons, dungeons.
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>Get to the part where you reunite with all the guild members in the void
>Think you'll get to choose one to be your 3rd member
>You actually just bring fucking all of them

That was pretty fun
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>>25782162
>though if you're like me and not quite as interested in catching them all as some others
MODS
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>>25782162
>not catching them all

Never give up.
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>>25782197
It's less giving up and more lack of interest. So >>25782191 has more the right idea. you'll never take me alive

I don't find recruiting them all all that interesting even in the older PMDs, even though I have nicknamed and tried out a few Pokemon other than the player and partner, so Super removing nicknames and tying recruitment to missions killed a lot of the playability for me. I rarely play Super anymore, but whenever I do, I never boot up the story anymore, I just go to Pelipper Island and do random crawls.
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>TFW get to floor 75 of Zero Isle North for the first time, barely alive
>Hear this music with the golden mask and wonder chest layed out in front of you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0YKDZXxC-o

It's like being on a bed of angel feathers ;_; so beautiful
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>>25782162
Well, I guess I'm going to recruit the legendaries then, started with this guy
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>>25781889
Hey Anon, I felt the same way by making the partner follow commands every other turn.
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>>25782317
is it just me or is that video not embedding properly?
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>>25782572
Just you, works fine here.
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>>25782572
Using Opera (or Chrome)?
Because I'm having the same problem.
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>>25782585
fuck, been having problems with youtube since last night

>>25782595
FF
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nice just picked up a stammy band
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>>25783062
you're not in the story dungeons long enough to use more than 1 apple most of the time though
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>>25783091
none apple better than one apple
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does anyone need any relatively easy pmd-related photoshop work done?
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>>25783138
This pic, but slap Skitty's face on the guy and Mudkip's on the girl? My shitty version has no transparency because i dunno how to do it in Paint
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>>25783138
>>25783179
that is, if that's what you meant, if not that's fine
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>>25783179
hows this
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>>25783368
Pretty good
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just got into northern desert and i already got a recruit
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>>25783368
now replace with Espanon and Mewtwo, Espeon being the strong
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>>25783787
Requesting Loss with two starters, Walrein as the doctor, and Chatot as the nurse
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>>25783787
>>25783989
or better yet, this image, with Espeon, or Eevee as female, and Rayquaza
>"You hear about Attract?"
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>>25783989
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>>25784276
brilliant
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you bet your thorny ass i am
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what items should I bring if I wanted to use Kecleon in Wish cave?
obviously like 10 reviver seeds just in case, but what else?
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>>25784329
also, how many Joy Seeds and vitamins do I get from my wish?
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>>25784329
>10 reviver seeds

I bring 1. Here's what i bring.

>Tight Belt, for grinding exp on Skarmory floors 18-19. Useless past then. Don't worry about apples, there are Huge Apples everywhere
>Wish Stone
>Joy Seed, to be eaten once Kecleon is 1 level from Screech.
>2-3 Link Boxes, for Kecleon and the partners to grind on the Skarmory with
>a Max Elixer or two
>Special Band for partner for Heat Wave
>Xray Specs for Kecleon
>Petrify/Warp/Cleanse Orbs, 1 of each should be good
>99 Gravelerocks
>99 Sticks for a partner to throw with

>>25784462
I've never wished for that, and I have no desire to do another run anytime soon. I've only wished for more recruits, and you get no wish if you recruit Jirachi.
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>>25784492
I also brought in assorted vitamins to fill the rest of the spaces, to be used on Kecleon
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Well, at least that one dungeon was extremely easy compared to the earlier ones. The stat & xp curve of Charmander is still bad, though.
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Is the new game any good?
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Sexe Absol
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>>25784650
Yes.
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>>25784665
isn't she though? Honestly, if I wasn't lesbian with Umbreon, I would totally fuck that
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>>25784690
Espanon confirmed a slut for Dark-Types
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>>25784726
n-no... it's not like I also like Weavile too or anything...
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>>25784742
SLUT
FOR DARK-TYPES
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If I reset my Super save, will I be able to reuse Wonder Mail codes? Nearing the end of post-game and I want to go crazy and get a bunch of stuff but I kind of want to start over afterwards and get everything sooner than I did this playthrough.
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>>25784742
>>25784726
>>25784690
>>25784760
>Espanon confirmed closet masochist
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>>25784792
>closet masochist
just because I like dark types, doesn't mean that
besides, Absol is not evil at all, she's just misunderstood
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>>25784812
nah man the people that made pmd are racist against dark types, all dark types are evil because of it
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Be grateful, Woops. I saved yo ass.
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>>25784860
I didn't need saving, i was getting items and you interrupted me
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>>25784854
lies! All lies!
my sweet Absol is not evil, she would never harm anyone
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>>25784891
at least i believe you

I think that truly bad pokemon don't exist anywhere
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>>25784854
Not the Absol in Rescue Team.
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>>25784917
>that spoiler

But anon, they exist on the isle of storms or whatever it's called
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>>25784774
>If I reset my Super save
I think you should make a backup since it's easy.

>will I be able to reuse Wonder Mail codes?
Yes
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>>25785100
Okay, thanks for the tip.
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I have to say...
It looked better before.
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>>25785128
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>>25785128
>No bases in SMD
I mean, pretty much living in the Expedition Society is nice
But sometimes, you just want to move in with your partner, probably in Lively Village since it's your home town, where the both of you can just live and relax and do COMPLETELY NON-LEWD THINGS
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>>25785225
like kissing and snuggling
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>>25785233
>After you buy the base, there's a cutscene with the town helping you both settle in
>Eventually it turns into Carracosta cooking dinner for everyone at your new base to celebrate the two of you being home owners
>Eventually, as night sets in, everyone leaves
>Pancham and Shelmet tease you both about "living together"
>Deerling tells them to knock it off, but she seems mildly bothered by it
>Before Everyone leaves, you (PC) stop Espurr before she leaves to ask her if she'd like to live with you both
>Considering how she lives alone, that the company would be nice
>Espurr pauses, as if in thought but she's actually reading your slightly flustered partners thoughts
>She declines, but says thank you for the offer
>The partner seems crestfallen, but internally they're relieved
>You (PC) says that it's too bad, but she's always welcome
>Espurr says thanks once again, and bids your both goodbye not before telekinetically saying 'you're welcome' to the partner and to 'have fun'
>The partner seems more flustered than usual
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Oh hey, free Gummis!
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>>25785380
IT'S A TRAP!
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>>25785401
>Kingdra uses Twister on me
>other Kingdra uses Hydro Pump and heals off that damage
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And I didn't even have to beat a game that ruins your touch screen for it
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>>25785510
One day old and this asshole's stealing my gains
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this was ok I guess, now I can work on a dungeon that doesn't gimp me
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It's time.
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>>25785549
there he goes again, forgetting images
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>>25785562
First things first, though. Can't let all these jobs rot. Saving the world can wait, I need my rescue team points.
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>>25785359
cute
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I never realized in super how it was the first pmd where your team doesn't OWN its own base by the end... Kinda disappointing new that I think about it
>>
I'm not sure why the weakest of all 'mons wanted to come here, but I did it.
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>>25785632
Super isn't Adventure Squad
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>>25785632
Yeah, it is. Kind of wish they went back to Serene Village like another anon said.
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I'm glad I waited one day.
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>>25785703
Untranslated games aren't real, silly

Unless they're hot
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TALK SHIT GET CRIT
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And now it's time. With those x-ray specs equipped.
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so, how must I trigger Gengar?
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>>25785128
I have to agree.
The older one is so much comfier.
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>>25785798
Keep unlocking legendaries, anon, you'll eventually hit gengar.
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Do you think Pokemon use Allure Seeds recreationally?
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>>25785848
b-but I have them all
except Deoxys..... would fucking figure if he's the ONE that triggers the event
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>>25785910
I think you just gotta wait a few ingame days
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>>25785848
I remember I have done that part of the game years ago, but I don't have most legendaries. If I remember correctly I have Mew, Lugia, Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres. Maybe some others I'm forgetting, but I definitely don't have Deoxys or Mewtwo.
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Oh i ranked up again
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>>25786031
Rank ups happen really fast in sky, until master *** rank, which takes an excruciatingly long amount of time to get past.
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About time this shows up
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>>25786130
Hell yeah motherfuckers
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>>25786130
BUM-BUM BUM BUM-BUM BUM-BUM BUM BUM-BUM BUMBUM
NANA NA NA NANA NA NA *NA* NANA NA NA NANA NA NA

MIRACULOUS WALL REPARATION
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>>25786138
>TFW

You lucky fuck. I still have to get grandmaster rank to get that damn thing.
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>>25786153
You better start recycling then.
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>>25786165
I ran out of boxes and worthless TMs ;o; What did YOU recycle?
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>>25786177
a bunch of worthless hold items, orbs, and lookalikes
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So in Super, if you evolve any of your teammates, do they appear evolved in the overworld?

Like if I tried to make Bunnelby from the guild evolve, would there be a Diggersby outside the guild instead?
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All this XP.
The change from 15F dungeons to 25F dungeon was pretty brutal, had to use all my max elixirs I had with me in there. Hopefully this latter part won't be as long.
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>>25786218
I dont think you can evolve them. Not like theres a point, you get 1 of everything
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>it was literally 1 floor
What's the point?
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These levelups hurt but at least I have my Gummis and skills
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>>25786242
Just a PP/HP refresh/preparation chamber.
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Well, at least the boss was ez thanks to Scary face/Smokescreen/Attract combo. Plus sun-boosted Embers.
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Talk like Yoda, I do. Save the world, you must. Whore rescue points you can, before going if you wish. Wait, the meteor will.
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>>25786327
>No portraits

That's so jarring.
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And now the rankups will slow down a ton
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>just got master rank
>chatot already shitting on us

He never stops being "that guy." also the next hour or so are going to suck bad
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>>25786177
Keep running marowak dojo and get escape orbs and Oran berries, trade for tickets and reviver seeds
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Aww yiss.
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>enter dungeon
>this starts playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HMLDzZXcHE
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And now, to save the world.
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And that's every IQ skill for Wooper! It's like Parental Bond for the default attack only better.
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>>25786603
>how to fix parental bond
>change from 50% damage to 25%
>no double effects
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>Playing SMD
>It's my first PMD
>Salamence
Jesus fucking christ. Am I supposed to just throw my wallet at this guy and spam items?
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>>25786703
Play sky, it's better by miles.
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Get fucked Steel section, all that waiting for an R let me skip you.
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>>25786715
That's not only counter to literally everything people have told me about this game, but also completely useless. My understanding is that SMD is so good it makes it hard to go back and play older ones in some cases.
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>>25786743
Use wands a ton, really
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>>25786743
You're understanding it right. Yes, you're supposed to use items. You can rarely use Salamence.
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>>25786715
It's really not.
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>tons of enemies
>and team useless, who forced me to come here

i dont care if it doesnt hit the bronzong, i'm using EQ
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>>25786782
>they hit one Bronzong for 40 damage
>master rank
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>>25786758
>>25786755
Okay. I guess I'll bring blast seeds and slumber/petrify wands and whatnot.
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>>25786824
Confuse+truant wands let you beat anything that doesn't have the boss instant self cure.
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>>25786743
People exaggerate a lot about SMD because it's still relatively new. The point of Salamence is to teach you that actually fighting enemies is bad, and that you need to fight dirty with items and other things whenever possible. This becomes a theme more and more later on, since leveling up is extremely slow and you have to constantly buy stat-ups in order to keep up with the game's difficulty, instead of just leveling up (which would be sensible).

Most people who like Sky better like it because it feels more balanced. Super has a lot of little improvements here and there, but all-in-all it's more of a roguelike, and it's not necessarily for the better. But that debate's been done to death at this point.
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>>25786874
That picture is making me mist up here
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>>25786913
good
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>>25785359
This post is a cute. CUTE!!

Someday I'm going to be pushed over the edge to actually draw porn that I want to see. Perhaps not someday soon, but someday.
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>run into a monster house
>full of Screech, Curse and Spite-spamming Shuppets
>Can't use orbs because none of the useful ones exist in Rescue Team
>lose 3 reviver seeds
>One of the enemies drops a Warp orb
Yeah, thanks. I wasn't pissed off enough because of the "fuck you" monster house yet.
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>>25786743
SMD was my first mystery dungeon game aside from ~10 hours of Red Rescue way back, and I only got right up to Great Canyon (I might have kept on playing if I just went there, that music has me like dam son das sum gud shit), but Salamence was definitely where I realized "Okay, this game is giving me a shitload of wands and orbs, so I should really just start making use of them." I also discovered that blast seeds are OP as fuck early on. 100 damage a pop, you know.

And I also find it interesting that fans say Super is challenging again after GtI dropped the ball, only because the only part I had a decent amount of trouble with was the Yveltal fight. That was actually really, really tough. Of course, I'm not sure what the very late postgame dungeons are like, but I'm replaying through Red Rescue now that I'm hyped up from SMD and god damn, it's just so much harder. Revive seeds are 800 a pop, blast seeds aren't nearly as useful, no wands, game over even if your partner dies, etc. Still enjoying the game a lot, but I guess I'm just surprised at how much more difficult this game is after hearing that Super was a return to the difficulty the series is known for.
I'm so excited to play Sky after RRT. I'm really hoping I don't go into it with too high of expectations after hearing so many great things about.
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>>25787025
>going into Sky with too high expectations
Seriously don't do this. It ruined it for me.

As for the rest of your post, I played Blue Rescue Team back when it was released. I was 8 and I beat it, so it can't really be too hard. Super's difficulty comes from the inability to grind (which is apparently how a lot of people beat the past games), as well as nerfed A attack which means no conserving PP. This is where the items come in. The reliance on items is not easy to get used to for someone who is used to conserving items and saving them for "just the right time."
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I usually explore as much as I can, but this place's just so damn annoying that I couldn't. Did someone say Pressure and wall ghosts?
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>>25787025
>going into Sky with too high expectations
I'm a big, big fan of Sky, enough to where I'd call myself a fanboy (and I carry all the biases that comes with), but please, never go into any game with expectations that are too high. I've done that before with other games and it's really made it difficult to like them even to this day.

That said, this is the first time I've heard of anyone saying that the series is known for its difficulty, or that Super "returns" to the difficulty it's known for. I mean, to me, Rescue Team can be kind of butts since it tends to rush you along unless you take the opportunity to grind between story missions, and Sky's got a nice, somewhat-easy, but balanced difficulty. Super's hard, but in the way that never feels terribly satisfying, to me anyway. Even then I still managed to go through Super without a single rescue until postgame, though I chewed through at least ten-plus Revivers.
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>>25787140
You're in for one hell of a ride. The last 8 floors before Rayquaza are just so maze-like, you'll be wishing you brought enough max elixirs and apples to navigate the damn area.
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>>25787140
>Did someone say Spite, pressure, wall, ghosts?
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>Miracle drink ups IQ
>already have all skills
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>>25787182
You mean these 8 floors?
Because they were a hell of a lot easier. Sure, the enemies were stronger but at least Aerodactyls were the only ones with Pressure. Plus no wallghosts. Nor spite.
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>>25787272
And here's the pic.
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>turn 2 of Rayquaza fight
GG
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>>25786760
What makes you say that?
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ur a beautiful creature dont let anyone tell you different
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>did "Bidoof's Wish"
>at Mt. Travail
>still no mission for Jirachi
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>>25786743
I'd say SMD>Sky in terms of gameplay, but Sky>SMD in terms of everything else. Music, story, characters, atmosphere, etc.
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Thank you for your attention.
Now, what's the postgame like? Never touched it. Could either start Sky with hacked characters soon or play some of RT's postgame if there's any.
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>>25787306
I'm not saying it's bad. In fact I think Super juuuust edges it out. It's a matter of personal opinion, nothing objective.

I didn't like how the story was told. Too many flashbacks to things we just saw. Too much partner parroting everything back in the form of a question. Until the betrayal the story didn't really grab me, whereas even though nothing was happening in the overall plot of Super for the first 10 hours, I was still enjoying it.

And then the story just kept going after the credits. I figured everything out super early and it killed my enjoyment of that whole thing. I really just had no desire to play after the true final boss.

I don't like grinding dungeons for recruits (never did it in Rescue Team either), and I didn't like the IQ system either, but Spinda's Cafe was really nice. I never did any of the post-game bosses outside of the story ones, though, so I'll probably go back and do those at some point since this thread is putting me in the mood.

Those are pretty much my main gripes with Sky, thread's on bump limit and I don't feel like really going into the super nitpicky stuff. Again, nothing objective. I really did enjoy it, but I enjoyed Super more.
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>>25787431
There's a lot to do in RT
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>>25787431
There's a lot, but it's not linear like Sky.
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>>25787431
I've gone insane from trying to do nearly everything, once I finally "help" Gengar and "recruit" Gardevoir YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO HER
I will probably go to Sky, with a pokemon editor
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>>25787431
The postgame on RRT is a freaking journey, anon.
Do it.
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>>25786874
let's play spot the human
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>>25787431
you know, this moment of feels is utterly ruined after the credits
they should have made a few weeks or months time before they come back, see what happens, how the partner copes and see the partner huddled somewhere crying
and when the time comes, you finally return to your best friend
or your useless partner that didn't help very much, depends on what pokemon you and your partner are
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New thread
>>25787936
>>25787936
>>25787936
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