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Touhou Puppet Dance Performance TPDP

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Previous thread >>25688854

Wicked hermit steals OP.

Game download pre-patched and ready to go in english (No expansion, won't be translated for 2-7 months):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar

Expansion downloads (Not translated, japanese only): http://pastebin.com/99HRr1Vt

The game requires japanese language packs and your computer to be in japanese locale or emulated via Locale Emulator provided in the download. If you don't do this, numbers will be bugged or the game won't run at all:
https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjo

Wiki: http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Main_Page

Puppetdex with extra tools, have to download it and use a spreadsheet viewer (Has not yet been updated for the expansion):
http://www.mediafire.com/view/ozuu2sf3ovitzux/tpdp_PuppetDex_1.91.xlsx

FAQ, useful links and additional resources: http://pastebin.com/NyBVqHVy

Let's talk about how Seiga's veil is prettier than any cape.

Or better, what's the best way to run this puppet and what style do you prefer?
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Speed or defense Suwako?

And what abilities should I get on her when I choose?
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>>25761741
>You will never see the end of Seiga's NTR adventure
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>>25761775
Why, the one with moody of course. She's already sickningly fast and strong and with one or two lucky moody boosts you can end up unstoppable.

She doesn't have many moves though, so your moveset is usually very predictable.
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>>25761741
Fourth for Seija > Seiga
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>>25762173
/thread

also, veils are gay. capes > veils
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Which ruukoto is the best?
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>>25762219
Angel Seija is better.
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>>25762255
Power is an extremely scary glass canon, a single hit of it is sure to take down pretty much any puppet unless they have resists up their ass. It is however pretty slow and very, very frail. Best you can do is throw it against something that has to switch out and hope you can sneak two hits with the sturdy ability for a 2 for 1 trade. Still, she definetly can't work alone.

Meanwhile assist has pretty much no offensive capabilities while still having the same two meh abilities. She does has some nice defenses, and can self destruct, set traps, barriers, etc.
You can also spam full metal crash with both while suffering no recoil thanks to her ability, but overrall both forms don't have this much going on for them. I'd pick assist.
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>>25761741
Speaking of sexy hermits, how useful is puppet seiga.
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Does Ruukoto with recoil offset not get KO'd by Adverse Spirit and Body and Soul?
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>>25763679
Those are not recoil moves, only way to stop those is if there's an equivalent of damp in pokemon. Even then, it'll not work at all.
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>>25763480

I had an idea for her some threads ago.

Power Seiga
Ability: Curse Return
EVs into Spread Attack and Speed. Speed Emblem.

Miasma
Love or Pain
Mysterious liquid
Gigantic

Strategy is to either predict a switch into something who's using a status move or switch into something that has to run away then miasma the switch(if you don't think it's steel typed), could also count on your team to help.
You'll after be with two 130 BP STABs with no drawback. Gigantic is there for coverage against those dark and steel threats, you can also get Glamour Pandemic in there for coverage against pesky light types.
Another option is getting Will'o wisp and replacing mysterious liquid with poison bomb. Weaker but more reliable.
Changeling is also always an option.

Biggest issue are steel types, of course, and you're also frail and scared of strong priority users or speedy sweepers. Forest Therapy and First Aid also make her sad.

Also, as would be expected of Seiga, this way of running her becomes much better with her abusing help of her friends so she can best torment enemies. It's pretty damn fun to run.
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>>25762370
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How bullyable is Sukuna
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>>25764587
inb4 shinmyoumaru_hugging_a_finger.png
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>>25764595
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>>25762219
>veils are gay

Everyone are gay in gaynsokyo.
Also, vails are hot.
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why is the type chart so different

why is water weak to poison
where are the bugs and psychics
why did ghost get split up into two types
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>>25765218
You didn't even notice the lack of dragons, or steel being kneecapped?
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>>25765218
>why is water weak to poison
cause pollution ruins water
>where are the bugs and psychics
bugs mended into nature, psychics got split into illusion and dream
>why did ghost get split up into two types
nether and what?

>why is the type chart so different
because different game. also, more balanced.
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>>25765218
>why is the type chart so different
To fit Touhou better and to not be identical to Pokemon.

>why is water weak to poison
It makes sense, poison pollutes water.

>where are the bugs and psychics
There's only 2 characters that are bugs, and since most types are "mystical" in some way they're not all shoved into the broad concept of "psychic"

>why did ghost get split up into two types
Which types are you referring to? Nether and Dark?
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>>25765282
nether and illusion; they had the dual immunities of ghost split between them at any rate
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Reminder
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>>25765320
Smogon confirmed better than the VGC
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>>25765345
anything is better than vgc
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>>25765345
Yes, we can agree on that.

Hail Smogon, the one true way to competitively play Pokemon
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>>25766646
What did VGC look like?
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>english still not in sight
I just want to play puppets again.
>>25766742
That picture is VGC.
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>>25766734
Is competitive Pokemon actually a thing?
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>tfw no english patch
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>Can't make a team of 6 unique Flandres

Which styles should I use dupes of to fill the last 2 slots? 2 different Puppets with a Flandre palette would work too
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>>25767547
use 2 abilities for each of the 3 forms.
2*3= 6 problem solved.
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>>25767014
Some stupid people think it is.
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>>25767694
And what makes you say it isn't
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>>25767708
That fact there's pretty much no way to play Pokemon except Pokken I guess without significant RNG being able to decide the winner
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>>25767687
But I'd have to drop one of the 4 styles then, since I wanna use Normal, Speed, Power and Extra.
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>>25767734
why not stay with a 4 flandre team, as homage to '4 of a kind'?
Well i can get not wanting to go out there with only 4 puppets in your team; put 2 rumias in there- the classic, not extra. or extra rumia and extra remilia? or perhaps extra marisa and extra meiling. what say you?
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>>25767725
than nothing is competitive.
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>>25767725
And this is why you ban OHKO moves and evasion hax and follow Smogon rules to the letter, to minimize the effect of RNG.

It'll still be there, but it'll be as diminished as possible.
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>>25767791
>>25767812
RNG is still far too present. Say I could choose the result of two or sometimes even one roll, when paralysis triggers, focus blast works, etc.
My win ratio would skyrocket. I had many stupid undeserved wins where I simply got lucky with an ancient power I had for talonflames. Other games use acceptable amounts of RNG that would far more rarely affect the outcome, to the point only card games are more subject to allowing the worse player to win, and many of these have been adding more and more library searches or sinmilar.
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>>25767933
If it's such a problem, why do you keep playing competitive Pokemon yourself
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>>25767812
Don't forget to ban moves with less than 100 accuracy and call victories due to criticals void.
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>>25767947
Or moves firing off a secondary effect (like Focus Blast getting the SpDef drop or Ice Beam freezing). Or speed ties. Or the variable damage rolls. Or moves/abilities with random effect (Acupuncture and Moody for example, and Metronome for an extreme example no one would actually run competitively). Or combinations of any and all of these factors (critical hit Focus Blast lowering the SpDef of your Blissey and making her unable to wall the next hit)

Pokemon is RNG. Even back when I was a serious Smogonite I knew that it was heavily RNG-based, and that sometimes things just go horribly wrong (or right). TPDP is also RNG and thus not really viable as a competitive game, but I don't think anyone really wants it to go that way anyways
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>>25767994
Raikoanon, are you even capable of leaving Raiko out of your team
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>>25768046
If he can't, I guess he would use pic related in his party. and perhaps exploud and raichu as well.
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>>25768046
Nope.

>>25768061
I can't even play the actual Pokemon games because, amongst other reasons, there isn't a Raiko to use in them.
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>>25768075
Isn't Raikou close enough? i mean, its called raikou, is thunder themed, and got roar. or exploud for going full sound.

I can kinda get you, i have trouble playing pokemon that isn't moemon.
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>>25768086
Partially that, and partially fuck SRing for a good Hidden Power. Especially on a catchable legendary.

Also nowhere near as cute.
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>>25767756
I didn't even think of the 4 of a kind gimmick, that's perfect.

Kind of a shame though, because I just remembered that Koakuma has a perfect Flan palette.
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>>25768098
Moemons can be very cute. I like how Cradily has both a parasol and glasses.

>>25768117
put koa instead of normal flandre, nickname her 'flandre'.
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>>25768117
>>25768134
even better, nickname all flandres according to their style.
p flandre
s flandre
e flandre
and koa can be a flandre or something.
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>>25768134
>put koa instead of normal flandre, nickname her 'flandre'.

Genius.

Is the expansion difficult to play without the ability to read Japanese? I want to put this plan in action right away, but I'm afraid I'll get confused and lost even after having beaten the translated base game.
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>>25768507
>I want to put this plan in action right away, but I'm afraid I'll get confused and lost even after having beaten the translated base game.

You can use the base game. keep normal flandre, put koa instead of extra flandre.
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>>25765320
We already seen AlphaGo, what would GammaPokemon's team look like??
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>>25768507
>Is the expansion difficult to play without the ability to read Japanese?
nah, if you've played through the base game then you should already know where to go
story will be a bit different though
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>>25768664
What about new Puppets, moves, abilities and all that? That just something I gotta trial and error through?
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>>25769107
well, the wiki has the stats, typings and movesets of the new puppets
you can still easily tell how much power, accuracy and priority a move has, and you can tell the type or class (focus/spread) from the colors
for the new abilities, though, i'd say your best bet is looking them up on the japanese wiki, running them through a translator and hoping it comes out coherent enough
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>>25767994
>TPDP is also RNG and thus not really viable as a competitive game, but I don't think anyone really wants it to go that way anyways
But don't you guys claim that it's better balanced than Pokemon?
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>>25770327
Competitive =/= Balanced
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>>25770342
So are you admitting that TPDP is not any better of a competitive game than Pokemon?
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>>25770929
Some amount of randomness is fine for a competitive game and won't destroy it - Melee is a completely acceptable competitive game despite there being some mechanically based RNG and you won't see anyone trying to ban Peach or G&W from tournaments. It's just that Raikoanon is extremely cavalier on encouraging an anti-competitive mindset for TPDP and is more interested in theorycrafting than anything else.

I don't personally agree, but then again I'm not terribly interested in anything other than mucking around with incredibly unpopular puppets anyways and holy shit have you seen what CirnoP is able to do guys
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>>25769107
>That pic
Can we post extremely odd touhou crossover pics?
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>Cirno is strong against fire.

Nani?

>>25771454
Is there really such a thing as an "odd" crossover with 2hu at this point? I'm certainly not surprised by anything anymore.
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>>25771309
I'm fine with playing to win competitively in TPDP, there's nothing wrong with that if you enjoy that (and honestly I still do a bit).

It's just that a good chunk of people playing this game could care less about viability or optimal and more about waifu and cute.

What is she capable of doing anyways, out of curiosity?

>>25771606
Couple of days ago I found an entire Touhou fangame based off of Age of Empires. A FANGAME.

I have no words.
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>>25771606
>Nani?
The Ice type doesn't exist in this game since there are only 2 characters that it could fit with. For that reason, Cirno and Letty are both Water types since ice is just a form of water.
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>>25771679
Age of Ethanols, right? Actually pretty damn good.
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>>25771606
How about this?
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>there will never be a puppet equivalent to Smogon
>there will never be big tournaments to prove your dominance in puppets
>you will never be able to stick it to Smogonites

This world sucks
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>>25772008
make it yourself
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>>25771679
>Couple of days ago I found an entire Touhou fangame based off of Age of Empires. A FANGAME.
>A
There are three.
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>>25771679
My bad, my bad, thought you were a bit more against comp stuff.

CirnoP is dumb because she can either run Speed Boost + Red Mark to become untouchably fast after a few turns of combat as well as being able to easily force switches with STAB Water/Nature coverage + Fighting attacks like Break Shot, or she can run Hustle + Green Mark along with Binoculars to make massive dents in the opponent with physical attacks at the cost of a bit of Speed.

The best part is, she doesn't even fear priority as much as a lot of other squishy glass cannons: she's typically going to be faster than a lot of priority users, and Icicle Machine Gun is both priority and can do a massive amount of damage if CirnoP gets lucky with the hit amount.
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>>25772040
...

I give up. Going to go take a nap and dream of Raiko.
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>>25772166
I don't understand this reaction of yours. There's Touhou fangames based on just about anything from Metal Gear to Castlevania to Mario (and Mario Kart) to Megaman to SUGURI and Acceleration of Suguri and fuck, even Pokemon.

It's just a very natural thing.
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>>25772500
>Metal gear
I need evidence of this, please.
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>>25772868
Oh fuck, I said Metal Gear? I meant Splinter Cell.
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>>25772500
He's probably just surprised. He's pretty new to this "Touhou" thing, after all.

>that pic
Hatate looks awful in that getup.
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>>25773229
The cape just doesn't work for her.
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>>25773292
The fedora would also look pretty dumb if she actually put it on. Not sure if the gloves fit her, either.
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>>25772913
That's pretty much just a mod with Reimu's skin is it not?
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>>25773410
Hell if I know. I only played the first one.
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What does this offer over Pokemon anyways

Is it the cute girls
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>>25774457
Yes. The cute girls improve the Pokemon formula tenfold.

Hell, cute girls improve ANY formula tenfold. Where's my tenfold-improved Ace Combat, Japan?
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What do I do after youkai mountain? I already got the gap map.
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>tfw no english patch
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>>25774510
I dunno
There's Magical Battle Arena NEXT if you want to fight with magical girls
You can even combine them to do stuff like having touhous fight other magical girls
I lost pastebin link tho so good luck finding good downloads and combining them
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>>25772913
Meh, how a metal gear touhou would work anyway?
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>>25775071
That's not Ace Combat, Japan! And yeah, I know about it. I used to netplay it with some people from /v/. Really fucking fun game, if a bit lacking on content for no real reason.
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>>25774544
You got a new item from Sanae. Go crush some rocks around, maybe you'll find the entrace to former hell or something.
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>>25761741
I like running Assist Seiga, even if kinda common, her typing is very good and after one or two boosts you can easily go up against most other puppets or run away with lightning speed OR changeling. She also has a cool costume and the expansion actually buffed and moved 10 from her Fo. Attack to her Spr. Attack.
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>>25775580
You can't trick me, Kogasa.
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>>25771703
there is also sakuya. and mai. and since we are giving ice based on personality as well, perhaps junko could fit ice/fire.
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>>25774457
if just cute girls you want, there is moemon
This game is like pokemon in many way, yet completly new in other ways, so if you ever get bored of pokemon and don't feel like waiting for new gen with more tentacools and zubats, if you want whole new set of catchable goodies and new types, this is the game for you.
Moemon is still pretty good choice if cute girls is all you are after.

>>25775035
>tfw they have no face
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Does shock stamp switch their puppets, or my puppets?
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>>25771703
>2
you forgot mai
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What's a good style for Seiga? I only have two options, but I can't decide which one.

>>25775580
Is Assist style only in the expansion?
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Did the path in Bamboo Forest change in the expansion? The directions given on the wiki just send me back to the start.
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Dragons.
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>>25778084
aren't as cute as puppets
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>>25778138
Goomy.
Dratini.
Gible.
Altaria
Mega-Ampharos

Also they're cool and balanced.
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>>25778168
No.
No.
Eh.
No.
No, but looks kinda cool.
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>>25778168
Puppets stay cute in their final form.
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>>25778262
>>25778233
What's your favorite type then?
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>>25778168
>Thinking Gible is cuter than Dratini.
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>>25778326
I don't really care much for types themselves.

It's all about the 'Mon/Puppet, you know? If I like 'em I like 'em.
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>>25778326
Rock among pokemon.
in tpdp... miasama. but its really hard choice.
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>Finally find a second Flan
>These stats
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>>25761741
isn't that a board for pokemon discussion?
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>>25777193
>tfw Kogasa victory

This is how you do it.


Also, I did a thing >>25764217 . But then, opinions, I like power more and didn't try extra.
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>>25778906
>collect
>battle
>raise
>choose moves
>ev train
>check ivs
>type strength and weaknesses, STAB
>e4
>rival
>surf, rock smash, cut
>6 per team, 4 moves, 2 types max
>atk, def, sp. atk, sp. def, speed
>evolutions
>pvp
>evil team
>abilities


than again,
>lagenderies are rare instead of one time thing
>no gyms
>can choose any starter
>natures have no downside

so i guess this game isn't pokemon. but
>touhou
so automaticlly related.
let me see your war face.
you got a war face?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>25778651
how's your koa cumming along?
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>>25779386
>cumming
fuck, i meant coming
demn succubus.
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Hemo is back, he skipped Seija and went for Sukuna...but he went full evil hemo
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2317920?tags=hemogurobin_a1c
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>>25779750
oh dear god no
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>>25779820
At least Sukuna is OK...
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>>25779386
I had to catch 6 of them before I got one somewhat passable.

I got a third Flan now too, but it's almost as bad as the second one. I suppose I'll just wait until endgame and reincarnate the hell out of those two, because my main Flan is just waaaaaaaaay too strong for this point of the game and I shouldn't make it any worse by continuing the search.
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>>25779866
Where you got that pic?
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>>25779750
This makes me want to bully Sukuna
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>>25779887
google image search got me 'ginza trpg'
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>>25779946
You realize that's the end result of trying to bully her. She can easily kill you despite her tiny size.
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>>25780050
It's okay, I'm a spread attacker.
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>>25780235
she's not a puppet
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>>25780495
Then ot's even easier. If someone like Seija who has hundreds of red flags can trick someone that gullible, imagine what anon could do.
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>>25780530
I don't think you can give an insane tongue kiss like Seija
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>>25780558
>tfw part 3 never ever
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>>25780587
This pic is just three days old...
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>>25780604
Oh wait, that pic is from August last year! Fucking danbooru posting pics late!
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>>25779887
I personally got it off 2chan, but it's from some kinda RPG I think.
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>>25780659
Thats kinda hot
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>>25780659
>that skelly hands
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>>25779025
Anon, you're drunk.
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Reminder that Sukuna is cute and cuddly.
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>>25782737
is that why she shoves needles into peoples' urethras?
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>>25782765
That's for people she doesn't like.

Also it's less "shove" and more "hammer in"
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>>25782737
*Shinmyoumaru
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>>25782810
*minamitsu
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>>25782810
Yeah, but while しんみょまる fit, Shinmyoumaru didn't probably because Hemo saw no need for more than 10 (or however much it is in-game) spaces for names.
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>>25782872
>しんみょまる
針妙丸
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>>25782882
It's not in kanji in-game, but point taken.
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>>25782872
I'm curious about how they'll translate Remi' Remi.
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>>25783165
Avatarlet, calling it now.
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>>25783165
Huh?
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>>25783407
She's the name rater, so in the expansion her puppet has a nickname.
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Where is keine in the human village after you fight mokou? I want continue.
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>>25783487
>interface patch

WHY DO WE NOT HAVE THIS
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Good news!

This Retastai or however you spell it, they'll be selling the OST for the TPDP expansion!
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>>25783814
>Retastai
Reitaisai.

Still, that's good news for the people who want the music. Not me, because everything I want is already on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaNMXAXB1M8
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>>25783628
Isn't that what happens when you merge the expansion with the English-translated base game?
I know that can be done with editing the INI file, but I haven't done so myself.
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>>25783917
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by merging them, but my expansion certainly doesn't have anything translated.
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>>25784022
http://pastebin.com/99HRr1Vt
>following the short INI tweak guide to hook the expansion onto the standalone english client.
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How good is this compared to the average Pokemon fangame or fanhack
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>>25784194
Very good.
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>>25784219
Pfff, what an Usaring can do to an immortal stage 6 2hu?
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>>25783593
Anyone?
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>>25784194
Quite good, as far as production values go, think over 100(counting uniquely animated costumes) in an amount of fakemons animated in better quality sprites than gen 5. As well as animating moves, spriting some different tipes, etc.
OST is all composed of remixes and as far as moveset creativity goes, it has a significantly different type chart and, outside of staple uniques like Shedinja or Wobuffet, there aren't many 1:1 equivalents to pokemon.
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>>25784254
The real question

What can a puppet do to an OU mon
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>>25784278
In the school, same where you could find her at first. I don't have a map, but think it's to the right of Kosuzu's.
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>>25784443
Remember that puppet cannot be harmed by anything but other of their own race, they would no sell all the pokeman...except, maybe, banette.
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>>25784463
Thanks
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>>25784496
So Smogon would ban them from competitive play, got it
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>>25784055
I'm pretty sure I already had to do this to even get the expansion running at all, so I guess that isn't what's making >>25783487 happen.
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>>25784640
Can you stop posting all of this cute

It's distracting me from more important business

GET GOOD IVS ALREADY LANDORUS
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>>25784496
Which puppets can beat Mega banette?

Loser gets throw away and forgotten.
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I'm pretty sure I need the Magical Fragments later, but do I need the full Magical Crystals? Or are they just for selling?
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>>25783814
AT LAST
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>>25785070
Yeah, Magical Crystals are just this game's Pearls and such.
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>>25785108
Cool, thank you.
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>>25782832
That's CAPTAIN Murasa to you lad.
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tfw no english patch
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>>25786114
>tfw no english patch.
There, fixed it for you.
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A reminder that TPDP is almost too uncentralized to be a competitive metagame
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How is my newly caught Yumemi?

I don't even know who half these Touhou characters are, but I am still enjoying myself.
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>>25786276
Don't worry, she's the best PC98
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>>25786330
I should really go and play the older Touhou games.

One of the Touhou's is basically a living cookie.
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>>25786276
Those are pretty sick stats for a newly caught one.

Amazing cape too.
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>>25786392
You really should
They have some of better banter in Touhou
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>>25786539
I would definitely use her, if I didn't already have a great Light/Water Puppet.
I had really good luck with finding puppets at the start of the game.

The cape is pretty nice though.

>>25786689
I can find the PC98 ones on that Moriya Shrine website right?
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>>25786731
Yep
Also a tip
In emulator go Config>Font
Then click the dotted line and choose anex86.bmp
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>>25786811
>First game is apparently 3mb.
Well that's certainly smaller than I expected.

Also I will try that thing you said aswell.
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>>25786392
She's a big dumb bronze plate and the most fucking annoying boss ever
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>>25786880
If you are new to the series, do NOT play PC98 games first.
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>>25786958
You leave my new-found adorable biscuit alone.

>>25786979
But they're already prepared anon.
Why not?
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>no VIVIT costume for ruukoto
why
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>>25787003
Not him but they aren't really refined
And first one is pretty unique take on brick breaker
But they are perfectly fine games from third one onwards
From what I remember the biggest problems with second one were lack focus and health bars
And visibility of bullets sometimes
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Looks like SukunaD has risen from the grave. She's rank 21 this week.

I also had a bunch of other observations but erased it all so fuck it. Some oddities were MerlinP being OU this week and MimaD at rank 20-something. Oh, and HinaE falls from top 2 for the first time.

Ah fuck it let's add some more:
>KogasaS at 23
>WaggysaggyE continues to climb
>Tenshi has a place in the meta, clearly. P form is doing quite well in particular.
>Aya is an omnipresent bitch
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>>25787224
I'll just start from Embodiment of Scarlet Devil then, at least it'll have best Touhou in it.

I can comeback to the older ones later.
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>>25787229
What can best swordhu do?
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>>25787438
>Earthquake girl
>Best swordhu
How is life of made out of delusions going for you?
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>>25787592
Pretty good when you consider she's actually a skilled and threatening sword user to Reimu instead of losing and running like a coward.
Please send regards to your fellow stage 2 bosses.
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>tfw you can't get good IV rolls on a legendary ever
>tfw you probably could have finished an entire puppet team in the last hour

Goddamnit how am I supposed to go back to Pokemon when it's so fucking backwards compared to this
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>>25784194
As a standalone game, its quite good.
When compared to the avarage pokemon hacks? Top percentage.
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>>25784496
the source you have on that fact did not take into account the existance of pokemon.
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>>25787592
>meira
>relevant
stage 2 boss for the worst vertical danmaku game in the series

she also is mistaken for a man and is not cute
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>>25787964
We need a pokemon hack of tpdp.
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>>25788134
Not even the 2hus, with their game breaker powers, can damage the puppets and you think pokeman can harm them?
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>>25788400
I forgot who said and what words she used. Can you refresh my memory?
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>>25788400
Basically every version mascot legendary from gen 3 on + Arceus would like to have a word with you

Name something in TPDP that could stand a chance against the titans in Ubers. And no, SukunaD maybe being able to check PGroudon doesn't count.
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>>25788449
Not him, but my S Gyokuto with tactician and Geyser (60 bp, always crit) Almost soloed the game e4 for me (with a little help from parsee and her traps)
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>>25788449
>>25788506
also, shake gear was quite fun as well. lack of STAB tough.
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>>25788446
Marisa does ingame, is the reason why Reimu can't solve this incident with her usual "beat the living shit out of the problem".
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>>25788660
Well if marisa says so it must be true. it's not like she has a habbit of lying, or have ever done a mistake.
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>>25788676
Of course.
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So, who would win? Yakumo Yukari (the actual one) or her pokemon equal: hoopa?
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>>25788686
Tbh I don't think there would be a toho I would be willing to take their words for it except the yamma. Kasen is also quite believable since she is both smart and doesn't outright tell a lie. The rest of tohos have either lack of cradability or can do mistakes.
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>>25788729
Forgot pic
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>>25788729
WITH YUKAROOS
U LOSE
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>>25788446
This pic, done by the artist/programmer, Akku explains that puppets are as smart as fairies, like sweets, run away when defeated and gave soft skin...immune to everything but other puppet's attacks.
Shinki also explains that to create a puppet you have to boil a fairy and use the liquid to create a puppet...but the maid says she is lying.
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>>25788795
the proggrmmer is word of god, but akyuu is gensokyo equivilient to a pokedex. indian elephents etc. so not good enough.
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>>25788795
>>25788852
Better than Marisa tough.
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>>25788852
Think about it, the "puppets are immune to everything but themselves" exist to stop people from asking "OK, we have an incident with puppets, why Reimu can't just beat the shit outta them?"
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>>25788942
Because you need to go to the root of the problem. whats the point in exorcising puppets if more appear?
Also, puppet battles are more fun than danmaku. Sure it will get boring eventually, but not now.
Also, perhaps Reimu herself belives she can't hurt puppets except with other puppets.
Lastly, Reimu is lazy and rather have minions to do her battles for her.
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>>25783487
>Partially translated expansion

wh-where
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>>25789672
Apperently the normal translated version carry some weight into the patch
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>>25790309
How would one make that work? I've tried the really stupid shit like replacing the .arc files with the base game's translated files and even tried running the english patch on YnK.

I'm totally stumped.
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>>25788400
Anon, that's about as silly as doing touhou power levels discussions with outside characters. Nothing in touhou universe can harm puppets, but nowhere does it state pokemons can't.
Kinda like saying Yuyuko can kill any character besides a handful, but that only applies to this plotline because there's only a single way to gain such immortality. Now if you compared to another outside immortal character, the truth is we couldn't really decide, because there's absolutely no way to know whether they're subjectto that power or not. Same goes for puppets capabilities.
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>>25788737
I don't know, I can't shake off this feeling. That hermit, she's hiding something, but what could it be?
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>>25790438
fgts.jp/vp/thread/24900426/#24914537
This is when the image was first posted. I think that filename is an imgur filename, same place the maps and full artwork rips were posted.
Could just be an anon reposting from the translation team that figured out a way.
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>>25790699
>Now if you compared to another outside immortal character, the truth is we couldn't really decide, because there's absolutely no way to know whether they're subjectto that power or not
Not really
Yuyuko just kills the person
If that brand of immortality allows you to survive being killed you can survive Yuyuko
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>>25790777
That's too long for an imgur filename.

With that said, I have no idea where it's from.
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>>25786731
But you could still use Yumemi in her fire/electric form.
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>>25790791
do you know how puppets immunity works anon?
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>>25790856
I got better question
Are puppets living things in first place?
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>>25790791
That depends, there are many brands of immortality out there.
There are some characters who don't die because they were banned from afterlife, but she has some authority in what happens to some, so who knows.
There are some who do die, but whose soul/spirit wanders around then returns,in which case could she do anything?
The description of her powers has hourai as an specific exception of immortality which lets us assume she can plow through some sorts of immortality, but there isn't a precise benchmark about who she'd kill or not.
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>>25790889
Are Yukkuris alive?
The answers are both the same.
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Where all the namefriends are coming from?

>>25790921
Yukkuries have babies, so are alive
Puppets don't have babies, but they may have conscious and soul so i dunno
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>name
oh, 1st of april joke. haha.
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>>25791056
>namefriends
How did this crap start
And why
Was there some filter that changed fag to friend on /b/ or what
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>>25791099
You don't consider us friends, friend?

Do you not love us?
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>>25791116
Every single person that uses this site is complete and utter faggot
I was pretty sure everyone knew this
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>>25791116
Upskirts are nice, but those are men legs
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>>25791172
What kinda girly-ass men have you been hanging out with?
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>>25791212
the 2d kind. her legs are way too muscular compared to her smooth hands.
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With this wonderful new interactive social media platform redesign of a website, someone tell me who to start with for my next run of YnK!
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>>25791308
YnK?
Anyway, Yukari.
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>>25791332
Yume no Kakera, the expansion.
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>>25791308
renko
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>>25791308
Flan for life.
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>>25787438
Tenshi in general got buffed. TenshiP in particular went from 70 speed to 95 (!!). Combine that with 130 att and 85/115 fo def and you've got a great spread.

For coverage she gets earthquake, steel double-edge, high tone crush, hammer arm, and some other good ones.

Oh, and for abilities you choose between sturdy or mold breaker.

So TenshiP is rockn' (HAAAA) a great spread, great coverage, and great abilities. She's a force.


A bit less popular is TenshiE. Earth/Fire type. She's a bulky sp attacker with 120 on the offense and 120/130 sp bulk. She gets Regenerator and some ability tied to a shitty weather.

Looks like her more popular set include fire-type knockoff, a spread steel earthquake, 95 power spread earth, aaaaand fissure. There is also one new move that's common, but I don't recall where data on new moves is.
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>>25791332
>>25791363
>>25791375
Putting all three of these suggestions into a random number generator gave me Yukari, but I think I'll use all three this run. Anyone else have suggestions for puppets to try? I want to branch out from my favourites.

Well, besides Yukari.
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>>25791578
>her more popular set include fissure
Fucking Battlespot japs.
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OK Hemo, we get it, you love hecatia, how about a doujin of her?
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>>25787003
Your opinion will change when you fight her
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>>25791685
Speed Nitori is literally god and Assist Hatate is pretty great too.
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>>25791718
So you're saying you don't feel lucky enough to fissure?
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>>25791744
Hold the fuck up. Does this mean that we are getting no Raiko?
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>>25791685
Raiko :P
seriously tough,
Yoshika.
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>>25791685
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>>25792693
Bump for Yochika
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>>25793814
>>25792693
(samefag btw)
(I'm just not sure how to spell her name)
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>>25793820
yoshika
like yoshi but with a ka in the end
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Something seems off
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>>25791685
Ruukoto

Fuck everyone who says she's worthless, get assist on her and get the paralysis wave thing that gives confusion and paralyze, stealth trap, the wind thing that swaps enemy puppets, and continue

She becomes impossible to kill if you give her more defense and health, especially with continue and possibly rations.

She'll deal no damage, but using the swap thing to get paralysis, confusion, and some damage off from the traps on every enemy puppet makes it very easy to wipe their team after you switch her out with a damage dealer.
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How come steel is so poor defensively?
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>>25794464
It has the same amount of resistances and weaknesses. Most types in the game do, so Steel is rather average in that regard.
What resistances it does have though, are very important: Wind was king before YnK, not so much now but they're still strong. Steel's a good offensive typing. This meta is kind to Poison-types, so an immunity is nice. Illusion is irrelevant though, I'll give you that.

It'd be better without Warp around, honestly.
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>>25791744
Dies a swimsuit like this exists?
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>>25794565
Don't see why it wouldn't.
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Seiga wicked body!
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>tfw no english patch
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>>25794546
4 weaknesses is more than any other type in the game, and only 3 resistances + 1 immunity isn't enough to compensate.

Compare Pokemon's Steel type
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>>25797946
pokemon has stall, this don't. i think changing steel from defensive to offensive has a hand in this.
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>>25798977
>Mabel Hartman
>Mabel
>Maribel

Merry, stop trying to claim stall is dead.

And find a way to make RenkoS have a higher BST please. Or at least just have the weather go-off on swtich-in.
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>Find a Koishi.
>Stats don't seem so bad.
>Realise it uses Spread attacks.
Is it salvageable? Can I teach it Focus attacks and change it's personality/emblem?
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>>25799073
Extra Koishi
http://en.tpdpwiki.net/wiki/Extra_Koishi

alt, I find that assist koishi + waster + mind control to be excelent at disabling suprises on the enemy side.

you can also use tms like overskill, Furious Recitation, A Hand in Adversity and some other focus attacks if stab void is not enough for you.
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>>25799142
Should've probably specified that I'm not in the expansion. I'll try and give it some Focus skills that I've picked up along the way then.

Is there a way to change which blue stat boosting thing a puppet has though? Some speed on her would be nice.
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>>25799188
only trough reiincarnation.
anyway, those stats are good enough for normal playtrough. or you can go to my level of autism and train puppets with good ivs rather than ones you like.
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>>25799249
Oh I've already got 6 puppets good enough to beat the game, I just wanted to have a Koishi because it looks nice.

Guess that means I've gotta beat the game then, pretty sure I'm close to the end anyway.
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>>25799306
What was the last plot-related thing you did?
And out of curiosity, whats your team
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>>25799329
Fought and defeated Medicine in that geyser place.

Team is currently.
Flandre.
Sekibanki.
Star.
Daiyousei.
Seiga.
And sometimes Nazrin, sometimes a random puppet.
All of them are lvl 50-60 except Seiga who is still levelling up.

I don't have the game open to check the stats, levels or styles right now though.
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>>25799389
Pic mildly related.
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>>25799389
Thats a cute team. most of those are early game catchables, are you new to touhou in general?

You did most of the story, but you still got a while before tpdp equivelent of e4. pokemon equivelent, id say you just beat the 6th gym?
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>>25799433
I have got multiple boxes of puppets, I've been catching every puppet I can find. I just like these particular puppets and they haven't let me down yet. (Nazrin I only have for the types though.)
It's basically what I do in Pokemon, stick with one team till I beat the story then play around with everything else.

Also I guess Touhou fans would call me a secondary. I have played a few of the games and read some manga/Doujinshi, but I'm nowhere near as into as the others.
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>>25799500
no, secondery is a person who is into touhou because of the fanwork, like touhoumon and iosys. primary are those who like the main games above the related doujins and marchendise.
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>>25799670
That was the meaning, but now is just a shitstorm bait used by trolls and elitisms.
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>>25799670
Puppet Dance Performance is actually the only fangame I've played, so I guess I'm just a fan that sucks at the thing he's interested in then.

>>25799773
I thought it was like Monster Hunter elitists calling people casuals.
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>>25799804
Don't feel ashamed, touhou games are hard. Myself, i haven't finished any game except the fighters and 10d.
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>>25799919
Why would I be ashamed? I just suck at every video game genre, this is nothing new..
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>>25799670
Nowadays secondary means a person who never played mainline games
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>>25800055
I don't think there exist a single touhou fan that didn't at least try one of them.

>>25799773
no, just shitposters who saw it being used as a deregatory term and use it without knowing its meaning.
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I want to start a new run in tpdp (the translated version) but It's kinda boring. anyone have any ideas how to make it more interesting?
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>>25800268
Nuzlocke except you can choose what puppet you want from each route
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>>25800300
This game has rough start, i guess i will be doing a lot of grinding.
But choosing? isn't part of the fun of nuzlocke is letting the RNG choose and discovering unexpected bros?
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>>25799919
What's the matter anon. Spellcards are too hard for you?
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>>25800351
my keyboard. i can't bomb while going right. the x button just doesn't work. I tried using usb controller, but oddly enough same problem.
i know some can no bomb, but not me.
oh, and one last excuse- i don't play much so my skill is low. i prefer fightings games.
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Please don't bully Renko
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>>25800379
What kind of shitty keyboard do you have? I have a cheapest piece you can get here and I can play fine with it.
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I like pc98 costumes. they feel so fantasy-like.
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Starting a new game, but who should i choose?
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>>25800663
Raiko.
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>>25800663
Anyone but Raiko.
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>>25800689
But seriously, just use your favorite.
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>>25800569
I will bully that good for nothing girl as much as I want, damnit
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>>25800769
renko is good for a lot of things, don't bully her
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>>25800769
RenkoS, in theory, can 2HKO Primal Groudon with Arclight if Primal Groudon isn't investing in bulk, regardless of the weather.

64+ SpA RenkoS Arclight vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Primal Groudon: 198-234 (58 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

No item or SR, although you would have to be running Good Belt in order to outspeed and not get 1-shot immediately. Compare Primal Kyogre under harsh sunlight:

252+ SpA Primal Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Primal Groudon: 151-178 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 17.2% chance to 2HKO

RenkoS is outdamaging Primal Kyogre here.

With Good Earrings (i.e. Specs) and Stealth Trap (so 6.25% off thanks to PGroudon resisting Steel)?

64+ SpA Good Earrings RenkoS Arclight vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Primal Groudon: 297-351 (87 - 102.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Trap

Note that literally all other weather inducers in Pokemon can't do shit against Primal Groudon if it has the weather advantage except Mega Rayquaza, and Mega Rayquaza is banned from Ubers for obvious reasons. Do also note that Primal Kyogre can actually take a hit from Primal Groudon even without bulk investment while RenkoS will fall over if anything in Ubers actually hits it, and that Arclight sharply lowers SpATK (so the odds of getting a 2HKO if she's using a Good Belt aren't all that high, although probably about as high as Primal Kyogre's chance to 2HKO with Ice Beam overall once you factor in the miss chance). There are a lot of things that can go horribly wrong here, but honestly that applies to Primal Kyogre as well. And obviously if it's running bulk things get much worse for her, although that applies to Primal Kyogre all the same, and the Good Earrings Arclight will still punch a giant hole in Primal Groudon regardless of bulk investment.

Now this doesn't really mean anything because TPDP puppets can't fight with Pokemon, but if Primal Groudon would hesitate before switching into RenkoS, imagine how that applies in TPDP. Possibly with perma Aurora up from RenkoS already too!
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>>25801029
Why not use ray dance instead of arclight?
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>Flan is over level 60 now
>Just beat Kanako

someone please stop me i'm a monster
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>>25801932
Try soloing with a flandre.
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>>25801967
That's kinda what I've been doing the whole time because nothing is strong enough to even dent her before she murders them.

I'm just going around slaughtering puppets like a demon. I need to be destroyed.
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>>25802001
wait till post game pvp.
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I remember now, the reason i stopped playing was because of growth differnces; some pokemon raise levels without ever seeing a fight while others constantly on the front row without being rewarded. im playing 1.34, was this fixed in later patches?
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>>25802098
>was this fixed in later patches?
There are no later patches to the base game, and the expansion doesn't fix it as far as I know.
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>>25777865
h-help
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>>25802300
It is like a clock. Just count the bamboos
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>>25800591
Must be on a laptop. Mine has the same issue.
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>>25802300
right-down-up-left-left-up is the path to eientei
right-down-up-left-down is the path to the secret area
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>>25802401
What's the "secret" anyway? The first rabbit tells me to count the bamboo shoots, but I don't see how they indicate any sort of path.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdDdyeuJ0qo
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>>25802426
its like a clock anon...
up is 12
9 left, right 3
down 6
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>>25802426
>>25802329
They indicate the direction in an analog clock according to hours.
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>>25802437
This is not the place for your memes, thank you very much.
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>>25802543
>>25802550
Huh, sounds obvious once you know. I'll go back there sometimes and see what it looks like when the path splits as well (one route to Eientei, one to Mokou, per example).
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>>25802437
MMDs sure became cuter since last time i bothered watching one
anyway, when reading vid title i thought you ware gonna post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTrKpg_FLj4
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>Bump limit already
Well, this thread went very fast compared to the last one.

>>25802664
In talented hands, MMD can be pretty crazy
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWvWDhM0rJQ
>Implying sumireko can be this badass
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>>25802854
>implying she can't
Just look at how badass she is.
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>>25802884
DELETE THIS
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>>25802577
Fuck you, i will post what i want.
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>>25802884
sumireko is a living mass of garbage, honestly
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>>25802890
I'll post all the badass Sumireko I want and you can't stop me.
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>>25802854
>Sumireko's best animated video references KH of all things

You don't even need to try it, she's shat on by her own fanbase, that's how bad she is.
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>>25802971
>went through all the trouble of making an complex action video that has her as the focus and she kicks everyone's ass
>"lol they must really hate her"
Makes sense. Guess the people who made Orbital Rabbit hated Reisen all along, too.
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>>25803113
They got an actual voice actor to redub all the orbital reisen vids, they must really "hate" her.
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>bump limit reached
should we start a new thread?
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>>25803727
Yes.

Vote this for OP because it's cute
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>>25803736
>duplicate image detected
next time provide danbooru link or something.
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>>25803753
Oops.

You could wait until the thread dies completely and then post the new thread

I want to play with Renko's white ribbon.
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new thread
>>25803920
>>25803920
>>25803920
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>>25803753
You can find it on danbooru through filemames.
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>>25803753
>he doesn't know how to find shit in danbooru using nothing but 4chan
How new
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>>25803956
>>25803973
im talking about how posting it won't work due to duplicate file detected.
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>>25804003
That makes zero sense.
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>>25804023
You can't post an image thats currently posted on the board again.
if he posted link to image instead of image itself i could just save it off and post it, without needing to edit it.
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>>25804083
>You can't post an image thats currently posted on the board again.
Am I even played here? Look, an image from the other thread.
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>>25804095
>Am I even played here?
*Am I being played here?

And look, another picture from the other thread.
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>>25804095
>>25804106
I just saved your image and am trying to post it.
guess what, you need to edit it be able to post it.
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>>25804123
Nice tabs dude, what you reading?
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>>25804138
Grimgar. the anime was too lanient with ranta's horrible personality.
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>>25804123
Yes. You can't post an image that was posted in the same thread while still on that thread. I know that, and that's true - I could save your picture but I wouldn't be able to post it in this thread because it was already posted in this thread.

But you said on "the board", which is just retarded and untrue. You could have totally posted the Renko and Mari picture for the other thread because it wasn't posted in that thread because it didn't exist yet.
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>>25804193
don't lie. I have been here for 6 years and i know at least in 2012 there ware few times my posts ware stopped because an image I tried to upload already existed in another thread.
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>>25804225
Sorry to disappoint, but I've NEVER had that happen. So either I'm unrealistically lucky or you're pulling shit out your ass.
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>>25804252
Not him but I am pretty sure you are new one here
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>Thread deleted

What?
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Oh, and the other thread 404d. You all should stop being so impatient and wait until the current thread dies before running off to make a new one.
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new proper thread
>>25804281
>>25804281
>>25804281
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>>25804176
Not him, but I think this is defineed by boards. I've had the rule apply to me some weeks ago at /tg/, maybe it's only per thread at /vp/ because it's slower or some shit.
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>>25804295
You're going to get banned for spamming, you know.
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Someone should use game pic or this for next OP
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=48339916
With some luck these threads won't get banned thanks to retards making threads
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>>25804306
I deleted it before making a new one.
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>>25804336
You can delete threads now?
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>>25804357
Yup, if there aren't any replies to it yet I think.

Should we just migrate on over to the new thread now? We're on page 9 anyways
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>>25804357
You can. I was Lily's OP and did so too. Forgot title.
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>>25804357
if you are the one that posted them, and provided not too much time has passed, yes.
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