>rock throw isn't a special move How did they manage

Maybe it's less 'throw a rock' and more 'grab a rock and smash it into their face'?

>>25656824
Because it goes after the defense stat, the one that haves to do with how many punches you can take. A rock is definitely like that, and not some magic/force/power/non-solid substance

>>25658896
This. The power of Rock Throw literally comes from how hard you throw it (Attack, not Special Attack), and it's blocked by how durable the opponent is (Defense, not Special Defense), because it's literally tossing a rock at them.

>>25656824
Projectiles =/= special attacks. I think a pretty good rule of thumb: if the attack manifests as matter, it's physical attack, if it manifests as energy, it's special attack.

>>25658945
>Water is energy, not matter

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>>25658896
>>25658923
Yes but

>Poison Point
>Static

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>tfw no moves that use the user's attack and the target's sp.def for damage calculation
>no ki blast
>no kaio-ken like ability that doubles the user's stats on the first turn it is sent out
>no spirit bomb style energy sphere that takes a turn to charge but does massive damage

>>25656824
Cause most rock type pokemon (Geodude for example) is more physical based than special.

>>25658999
>no ki blast
Literally Focus Blast

>>25658997
It doesn't make contact.

>>25658945
I don't get how mud slap is special, but earthquake is physical.

>>25658896
>>25658945
Explain
>Ancient Power
>Eruption
>Power Gem
>Draco Meteor

All of those are literally throwing rocks at your opponent.

>>25660175
cause it uses special powers duh...

>>25660175
They're not based off the attacking 'mons Atk stat because they aren't physically throwing them - instead they're summoning rocks & throwing them at the opponent with a force that has nothing to do with muscular power

The ones I'd contest are Rock Blast & Rock Wrecker, where it's arguable that shooting the rock rather than hurling it with physical strength should be based off SpA

>>25658997
Not all physical moves make contact dumbass