/xcg/ - XCOM General

Kraksad

Miscreants

Mutons have nice biceps

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>>188419016

templars are useless

I've been playing XCom since Enemy Unknown came out and have yet to get close to beating either Enemy Unknown or XCom 2

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question: if I give a grenadier a battle scanner, does the scanner get increased throwing (launching) arc as compared to a regular hand throw?

>>188419238
*rends you*

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>tfw you get a savant sniper

B O R E O F T H E C H O S E N

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How do you spend the XCOM AP that the faction heroes collect? I've purchased Sustain and Reaper on my Templar but it just used the normal soldier AP.

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>unlock the final mission with all chosen still alive
>all i got was the warlock says one line about the gates that might not even be unique to the ending

I'm feeling a bit cheated here

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>rend the lost

WotC is disappointing desu

There appears that there was going to be a lot more strengths and weaknesses for the chosen

>Strengths
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenIncreaseCrit"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenIncreaseMobility"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenHoloTargeting"

>immunity strengths
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenImmuneEnvironmental"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenImmunePsi"

>; survivability strengths
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenAgile"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenIncreaseArmor"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenIncreaseHP"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenIncreaseDodge"

>Weaknesses

; Second Tier
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenWeakFire"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenWeakPoison"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenWeakAcid"

; Third Tier
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenWeakPsi"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenWeakMelee"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenOblivious"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenImpatient"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenNearsighted"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenAchilles"

; disabled chosen traits - only used with activation system

;ChosenStrengths="ChosenCornered"
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenZoneOfControl"
;ChosenWeaknesses="ChosenSlow"

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>>188419587
Here's some more info

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Can WotC be pirated to work with a legit copy of XCom2?

Friendly reminder that combat intelligence affects the personal bonus ability points the soldiers get on promotions.
Friendly reminder that all ability points earned in the field go into the XCOM pool.
Friendly reminder that combat intelligence doesn't affect ability points earned in the field.

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>>188419802

>>188419928
I would not know, why not give it a try and let us know how it works out.

I WANT TO MARRY A VIPER.

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>Poor little sectoid

That fucking Lost beacon is the shit.

>>188419964
im disappointed there are not dumb dumb ranks

>>188419587
>
;ChosenStrengths="ChosenImmuneEnvironmental"

If this includes fall damage, I feel like they need it. Too many times have I abused this.

>>188420160
Gravity is Commander's greatest champion.

>>188420141
You wouldn't be so happy when your waifu gets low IQ

>>188420141
You could change the names of the ranks and the bonuses in the .ini files pretty easily, Hell I'm editing facility and covert action times for legendary difficulty now

>>188419242
I don't think so

>>188419587

What would the "ChosenAchilles" weakness be? The faction hero class they're weak against? All the others are obvious except this one

>>188420246
id just edit a smart one into my waifu like everyone does anyway

Quick /xcg/, a retaliation mission has just appeared, there will be one of The Chosen and possibly an Alien King and all you have is your current C-team.

How fucked are you?

>>188419474
The XCOM AP is a shared pool between all soldiers. If you spend more AP then a soldier has than it takes from the XCOM pool.

How hard would it be to mod the Assassin's Harbor Wave attack onto the Katana, so rangers get to use it if they're wielding it.

>>188420296
Weakness to overwatch shots?

>>188420412
C for Colonels? I'm fine.

>>188420412
>Alian King

You're fucked. Then after the squad wipe you rage and uninstall said dlc.

>>188420412
>a retaliation mission has just appeared, there will be one of The Chosen and possibly an Alien King
Considering the fact that there can't be a Chosen and a Ruler on the same map, pretty good.

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>>188420631
[Magnificence intensifies]

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Time to turn off surgical

>>188419504
Fuck, you actually beat it that way? How did you do it? Do all 3 spawn in the final Avatar room with the Avatars?

>>188420373
>messing up the nickname quotes that natural nicknames give by manually editing
it's like you don't even know how to waifu

>>188420826
I once had a tunnel map with ADVENT Loot Chests Sitrep, except they never spawned anywhere on that damn map.

>>188420885
The assassin and hunter spawn in the area before and the Warlock spawns with one of the waves, I had him spawn with a Avatar on my run

>>188419518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw

So does the training centre allow me to give a grenadier blast padding and shredder along with the bonus x-com ability or can you just swap which standard abilities you want, along with the bonus abilities.

>>188421080
You can use the Training Center to obtain ALL of your class abilities, and 0-5 extra RNG abilities.

>>188421080
you can take whatever you want as long as you have enough points for it

I'm really jewish with points though

>>188421421
That covert action that gets you extra ability points is a must. So much stuff.

>>188421421
You should be, to be fair.

>Chosen weapon for Ranger/Specialist and Sharpshoter
>No Chosen weapon for Grenadier

No love for them Firaxis?

>>188420885

in my run the assassin spawned with the berserkers, the hunter spawned with the sectopods, and the warlock spawned in the final room with the avatars.

by the end of the game the chosen become a joke, even with 5 strengths, i dont think any of them lasted more than a turn.

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>>188421345
>>188421421

>>188421546
grenadiers already OP as it is

Who's the most annoying Chosen and why is it the assassin?

>>188421805
>annoying
Warlock.
Assassin is the most dangerous one.

>>188421834
>Warlock
>Not giving everyone mind shields

Granted I faced him last, but he was a cakewalk.

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What am I in for?

>>188421546

All signs point towards the fact that there was going to be a 4th chosen at some point, there is code that references a 4th and unused voice lines for a "zealot" chosen, so it's likely that he would've been a tanky gunner.

>>188422043
there's one unused voice line that sounds utterly ridiculous and no assets that I know of

video games have had a rule of threes for a long time, it's probably nothing

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>>188421834
>mind controls soldier on haven assault
>resistance soldiers proceed to light him up and he survives with 1 HP left

>>188421834
If the Assassin didn't have shadowstep she would be easier

>>188422234
treacherous jews

i hope you grenaded them

>If a Chosen captures or extracts information from Jane Kelly, they will refer to her by name when they taunt you.
neat

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Loving the update so far, but damn even with all the qol mods, im still struggling with the UI. The fucking around with attachments and swapping the guns for the kitted out one for the squad, trying to find out who likes who pre-bonded and trying to stick to it, the entire covert op screen without a way to preview or modify soldiers and making sure those guys arent taking vital equipment for a joyride, all the shit you can only see from the battlescape like orders, the radio-grid, the chosen infos, the fact that batlescape idling ticks away at a non-trivial pace and so much more....

>>188422463
No way.

>>188422026
Fun.

>>188422464
I think you can modify solder loadouts in the covert ops screen with a little edit button

>>188422170

>there's one unused voice line that sounds utterly ridiculous

Technically there's two, there is also code for a "psychotic" chosen or something along those lines. I've seen people also mention that there was going to be a 4th faction, some form of android class, and there are also android voice lines in the SDK, so they probably just ran out of budget.

Worth noting that the android voice lines are named Julian(sounds nothing like the Julian we know though, they also sound like placeholder lines like with the Zealot), so it could be nothing, or maybe they were going to integrate Shen's last gift as a 4th faction with Julian as the leader, we'll never know.

do Elite Priests have fucking Solace or something

I had a Dominated Archon and a Priest landed next to him with some reinforcements and the mind control just randomly broke

>>188422558
yea but only the loadout, you cant check or modify their skills and stuff.
Also, the hypervital shit only work pre mission, but not pre-covert ops which is bullshit

>>188422769
wiki says no

>>188422834
There really is no need to waste elerium cores for covert ops.

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I love Lost-only missions, because they're the perfect opportunity to spam these.

>>188422464
Just like Vanilla, I expect to see a large amount of UI mods for WotC and updated UI mods. Cause I agree, something things can be done much better or improved. Cause the bonding UI's are awful.

>>188423053
only issue I have with bond UI is that stupid giant handshake on the geoscape. no i don't want to bond Van Doorn and JC, I'm going for someone else

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>Supply raid
>A team is healing
>Send in a ranger only squaddie team
>Get sit rep for extra charge of stealth and stealth not breaking for other troops when someone get spotted

>>188422641
>Androids
Yet another Apocalypse callback. I buy it.

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Post the first photo that you actually took yourself

>>188419239
me too...but I still have fun playing it...

>>188422464

The most annoying thing is that they changed it so you can't see the device's health in the Protect the Device mission unless you have visibility on it. How am I supposed to tell how much time I have left?

Just pirated the game and WOTC

The launcher has me choose between the main game and WOTC. Is WOTC a different campaign, or just an expansion on the vanilla campaign?

>>188423816
>or just an expansion on the vanilla campaign?
expansion

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>>188423816
Buy the game anon.

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Bye friend

>>188424104
>adversary: reapers
>shell-shocked
They were asking for it

>>188423905
Ok. So if I am probably only going to play once, might as well do WOTC

>>188424104
>growing ever more fearful of XCom's successes, ADVENT summons the Balrog to destroy them once and for all

>tfw you will never get one of those juicy ADVENT Burgers.

>>188424617
XCOM cookbook when

>>188420826
>Want to figure out what some of these actually do
>Can't figure out shit in the mod tools due to all the lines to comb through with sitrep in them

Rescue the Resistance Operative is such a fucking deathtrap god damn

>>188424804
Fireteam - squad size limited to two. Mission is adjusted accordingly.

Juggernaut - only one soldier may be sent. Mission is adjusted accordingly, and soldier is given the Juggernaut ability, allowing them to react to every enemy action on the turn when activated.

They are also granted immunity to mental effects, along with being able to parry viper grabs.

Ambush - ADVENT will launch multiple reinforcements once XCOM completes the mission objective.

Chemical Leak - high concentrations of acid pools will appear in the mission area. Due to potential of acid pools appearing on spawn, XCOM will have temporary acid immunity at mission start for two turns.

Low Visibility - adverse conditions in the area has reduced the visibility of both XCOM and the enemy

Black Ops - if XCOM kills every visible enemy before their turn is over, XCOM will regain concealment

Advanced - the enemy fields units more advanced than normal, but in reduced number.

Waves - ADVENT will keep launching reinforcements until XCOM completes the objective

Phalanx - Enemy units are somewhat reduced in number, but will be gathered around the objective: prepare for heavy duty combat.

>Kinect Shielding Warlock on Legend with the shitty old retaliation mission
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>188424842
Is that the sewer one where it sandwiches you between two reinforcement flares every turn?

>>188424946
Jaggernaut and Black Ops don't work properly and Fireteam is basically impossible. Advent's AI can't deal with Chemical Leak either

>>188424946
>Juggernaut
>You elevate a soldier to the commander's chosen ruler
I'm curious as to how that parrying works with soldiers without a melee weapon.

>>188425108
That sucks.

>>188425203
Juggernaut would be cool but it needs somebody to actually do some work on it for it to be viable

Sometimes it feels like it's better to just let the Chosen steal a soldier rather than fight them and potentially lose everything, but it's so hard to tell

Am I the only one that's disappointed that for killing the warlock we only get an assault rifle? I very good assault rifle, but still just an assault rifle.

I was hoping to get some sort of crazy psionic amp that I could equip on my psi operative so he could ascend to Elder God-tier level of power.

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Are there any mods for those spindly tribal-type tattoos? I really dislike the standard ones, and it's hard to find the right stuff.

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>>188423548

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>>188424996
yes

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Whatever code the game uses to determine which posters get placed in what room seems to like this one a lot.

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Quick post your favourite EU track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLC55FOUCI

Anyone else feel bad when you find a lone little advent trooper when doing missions in abandoned cities? All his friends left him behind.

:(

>>188426078
No, because that fucking nigger always seems to take cover two squares away from a Lost because, for some reason, he knows beyond the shadow of a doubt that they will not target him for any reason.

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>create a character pool of 85 generic identical faceless soldiers to use as my recruit pool
>set it to "character pool only"
>double check that it's set to "character pool only" in the ini
>start new game
>one member is from my character pool and the rest are all fucking randos
Why the fuck is this happening? I've been trying to fix it for an hour now and I'm losing my damn mind.

>>188426170
>not using fair lost

>>188426170
its not easy being a little advent trooper in a big city

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>>188426339
>>188426409
Trust me, I got my revenge later.

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>Sectopod and Andromedon pods activate simultaneously on their patrol
>a lost swarm also appears
>nuking the sectopod next to a car summons another swarm
>41 kills later, xcom only took 1 damage
>subdue VIP with templar
>book it to extraction with VIP being carried by templar
>extract templar
>Bradford tells me the VIP is fucking dead
>Sorry Commander, but we won't gain any intel from a corpse :^)
wtf i hate templars now

Holy fuck my heart is pounding. I just defeated the assassin. She popped up in a mission I thought would be relatively easy. I am early in the game so my guys feel so fucking vulnerable.

I was using hunker down in a spread out pattern on a subway map. She slashed my guys like 4 times. Luckily I had a medkit specialist. I was so scared to move and track her down though for fear of activating another pod.

Eventually, I was able to use a reaper to find her, then I sword rushed my ranger in who is pair bonded with the reaper, used the reaper bond action to give the ranger another action. Point blank shard shotgun with a laser sight and talon rounds to the assasins face. She was killed instantly.

What do you get if you defeat a chosen in a mission be full depletion of their health? I didn't seem to get anything out of the ordinary I thought?

Also, are talon rounds really useful? That time they probably saved my ass allowing my ranger to diareha SHIT into the assassin.

So far, I am also kind of underwhelmed by the reapers offensive capabilities. Her utility is fucking nuts though, I actually can't fathom not having her to scout these missions out. Not to mention claymore into a grenade launcher nade is fucking diabolic.

>>188426608
*sneaks up behind u*
*deals 1 damage*

>>188426636
You have to do missions like that with whoever is carrying the VIP to be not last.

>>188422641
>ran out of budget
>again
damnit firaxis

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>>188426753

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>>188426767
It's all fun and games until there's an undead gangbang.

so why did jake remove the 4-12 will increase per rank from vanilla then add a will reduction over time "tired" mechanic on top of it? seeing a colonel with 52 will that gets mind controlled 9/10 times by a sectoid is beyond pathetic. i dont think he thought this through.

>>188426753
>underwhelmed by the reapers offensive capabilities

Put a laser sight on her, pick up Blood Trail and then the skill that keeps her in concealment if you kill with her. She's meant to get crit kills from stealth. Mine crits for 9 all the time and usually kills. Get Sting if you want to attack and stay in stealth for that shot if you need to soften something up.

>>188422641
>They didn't finish integrating SLG
>Beating the towers or not doing L&A would give a chance to unlock Julian's faction
>The faction hero would be a souped up super SPARK
>No crazy Zealot chosen with tons of guns and explosions

>>188426986
*sneaks up behind u*
*deals max of 6 damage combined*

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>Avenger defense
>game sends really fucking tired soldiers as reinforcements
>to pour salt on that, it's the aftermath of a successful magnetics rush and the force level is still low enough for ADVENT to melt, so reinforcements are unnecessary
>top specialist ends up developing a fear of stun lancers and another soldier will now panic when other soldiers will panic (not as bad as the former, at least)
>have a second UFO hounding me
Gotta give them props, the fatigue system made Avenger defense go from a turkey shoot to a nightmare just because you can't pick your reinforcements.

>newfag
>lots of 3 ammo fags in my squad
>get sweaty on the lost missions
>don't lose anyone but cutting it close and barely able to get to objectives
>next lost mission
>take 2 Pistol snipers because most other people are fatigued
>HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>188427127
*only have 6 hp*

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>>188427127
*locks down your whole squad while XCOM kills Viper King*

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>Start new gatecrasher with Bronzeman and some additional mods
>Going amazingly well and tactically sound
>Suddenly rookie misses a flanking 81% shot on the last trooper left.
>Trooper full-cover critmemes Skirmisher to death.

I hope dart guns will bd as shit as they were in TFTD

>>188427689
That's gatecrash-com baby

>Retaliation Mission
>Warlock shows up
>hides between two shitty portable generators
>Kill him with one hand grenade without skipping a beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VXJb4fKrU8

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>tfw 0.1%

>>188427118
>Julian talks shit about Lily while faction leader
>sends spark dongs to piss her off

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At least it was 100%

How the fuck would you play this game with no fucking grenadiers? Holy fuck this class is strong. I feel like you could play this whole game with grenadiers and rangers and be perfectly fine. Sharpshooters are a fucking mess early on.

>>188428518
>Holy fuck this class is strong.
Don't rely on them too much or Lost missions will buttfuck you.

>>188428518
Some retaliation missions I feel you don't really need shred or nades, just raw damage. I had a retaliation that was all berserkers and codexes, I brought double ranger triple templar and a specialist. Saved nearly every civvie on L/I.

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>>188428518

Grenadiers are amazing, except at killing shit. But no other class set up kills better

>>188428518
I don't use grenades that much desu.

>see Chrysalid pod with Reaper
>Dash into it with my Ranger with the Katana
>Bladestorm them all on activation

Fucking love Bladestorm, sticking Bladestorm units on reinforcement drop points is hilarious.

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>>188428518
>grenadiers with acid bombs

>>188428518
You could do it with just Rangers. I've done it. You could probably do it with just Grenadiers as well.

The most brutal team possible would be All Rangers.

XCOM 3

>Terror from the Deep
or
>Bradford and Friends Space Adventure

What will it be?
What do you want it to be?

>>188428152
But isn't the only negative of tired soldiers reduced will and more prone to panic?

>>188429215
Fuck, All Reapers. The most brutal would be All Reapers.

The hardest would be All Sharpshooters. That'd be unplayable.

Going against my first Sectopod, what should I bring, EMP Bomb, Rounds, and what else?

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>tfw two hour+ Lost missions where assassin invades and the only weakness you can exploit is explosives

>>188429420
>XCOM 3

Probably won't being seeing that in a while. Also they keep saying WotC could have been XCOM 3 or something. More likely we get Civ 6's first expansion before that.

>>188429628
Shred

Has anyone else noticed you really only get recruitment missions for one of the factions during a play through? Really bothers me that I can only have one of the other two and potentially unlimited of one of them.

>>188428152
wow its nothing

>>188429008
>except at killing shit
>he doesn't give them scopes and tracer rounds so they can shoot nades and then chain shot everything too

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I think my Gatecrasher is broke.

One pod just randomly broke apart and all the troopers fucked off to random places.

>>188429748
I guess the game just expects you to have one, and only one of each class for most of the game?

>>188429748
Yes, there is a mod to remove that behavior.

>>188429628
A sharpshooter with Fanfire, give them bluescreen and watch that HP melt off.

Or you could get someone with Rupture and shred the armor with Acid bombs. I can kill them with just my Reaper, as she rolled Shredder and has those needle rounds. Pop banish and it's dead.

So any new, good mods that have been made since WotC came out?

am i the only one who think warlock's bgm is best of them all?

>>188430304
assASSin is best

>>188430304
>>188430452
I wanna bend the Hunter over and show him why humanity is gonna rule the universe.

>>188429665
Obviously its gonna be awhile, but what would be more interesting?
Deeps Sea or Deep Space?
Personally I'm more interested in Deep Sea.

>>188430586
I'd rather see the variety of terrains that come with deep space exploration. Underwater only has so many terrain options.

Increasing the loot timer is for faggots Y/N?
I felt in Vanilla Xcom2 it was fine, but fucking hell, WoTC is throwing SO MUCH shit at me, even in the early missions I missed more loot than I normally do on half a playtrough. tweak timers or git gud?

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How do I get more fucking Reapers god damn it, I just want my Right Wing Death Squads already.

>>188430762

I have no strong opinions about this one way or the other.

>>188430762
My only opinion about loot is that vulture should be baseline

>>188430726
>>188429665
I know they're both Firaxis, but is there an Xcom team and a Civ team?
Or is it one team that alternates like Bethesda on Elder scrolls and Fallout?

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>assassin with shadowstep, immune to melee and gains shields on missed shots
>weakness is groundling
>highest ranked unit is LT with the rest cpl/sgt
>one shots my units on legendary one by one into crit before running
>only thing I can think of to fight them is to power level a templar to swap them out in the open to be shot or a few rangers to get run and gun
I've had to evac the last 3 fucking times she's showed up because of this same problem and I have 0 idea of counter play this early.
What do.

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>>188423548

If you lose a faction soldier from one of the two factions you didn't start with can you get a replacement or is it seriously 1 per campaign?

>>188431680
Things go boom.

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>>188423548
another

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>>188423548

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>start new game for WoTC
>three gatecrasher rooks miss every single 75/85% flank shot on two remaining 1hp troopers from nading first pack
>half of squad gets wiped on the next turn, random cover burns up and officer pack aggros from across the map

Well, that was a quick run.

>>188424617
>Tell the troops to pose near an ADVENT burger menu, for science , of course.

>>188431680

Bend over and let her interrogate/capture your soldiers. It's better than getting squadwiped or constantly losing missions.

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>>188423548

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>>188423548

>>188419587
>nearsighted
>Hunter

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What should I build?
Training center would be nice to reach them rank 2s, or maybe a lab for more breaktroughs?

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>>188424842
They always fuck me, it's probably the only mission type I've done where I take at least 1 dead/unconscious every time(although I haven't progressed past early game in legend yet). My last one this guy was just a bullet magnet and got shot through full cover by troopers 3 times and died with no officer mark, what a fucking tool.

>>188431492

All i know is that according to Jake, he was given a team to make EU(multiple times) so i can't imagine that they are the same team.

>>188432118

>tfw can't ever get corpses in my posters

how do you guys do it

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>>188423548

>>188433346
Just keep cycling the location until you get a place where action took place

>>188433346
just click the "next location" button until corpses show up

>>188432934

It would be easy for them to exclude certain Chosen from getting specific traits. If they decided to leave the content in.

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>>188423548
haven't had a single mission without lost so far

Just started playing WoTC.
Can someone give me a brief run down on how Ability Points work?
Are they like a combined pool of points used to upgrade the new classes (Reaper/Skrimisher/Templars) or for individual soldier only?

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Do you think she has enough dodge?

>>188426310

Do they all have the same name? I don't know if that's relevant, but I've seen a number of mods go off the soldier's name to do things so I assume there's already code in place that does that.

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>>188423548

>>188425108
>Downloaded the mod that enabled all of these
Am I fucked?

>>188433792
>Are they like a combined pool of points used to upgrade the new classes (Reaper/Skrimisher/Templars) or for individual soldier only?
Both. Soldiers have their own points, but XCOM as a whole also has some points you can spend. To do any of this, you need the Training Center.

>>188433960
Gotcha. Training center.
What is the priority of the new rooms?
Training center before resistance ring?

>>188424974
>kinetic shielding on warlock
rip in piece, kiddo.

>>188433871
Just disable them in the mods .ini

>>188433445

Is she posing in front of a poster of herself?

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>can't complete the mission with the Berserker Queen in a box because my VIP got stunned and can't evac like that
>Have to redo the entire mission
>decide I'll just ignore her since I'll never be able to set that shit up again, she's on the roof anyway, what are the odds that she comes down?
>line my squad up on the side of the prison
>As soon as I finish setting up to take on the Advent inside, she drops right fucking on top of my grenadier up by the second floor entrance
>fortunately my other grenadier was just below this entrance with an ice grenade
>lob one up, get my grenadier the fuck out, and blow the floor with another grenade to drop her into the building proper, not in a sealed box this time
>follow up with a shot from the grenadier she gave a heart attack to for good measure
>move on to the entrance, that will have to be a problem for later
>3 deal with 2 of the 3 Advent, but the mech is inside with the beast
>Send in my Templar to get the lay of the land in a far corner
>Queen runs over near the mech and an acid barrel, also she's on fire
>rend the acid barrel because I have Fortress and fuck everything
>this pisses off Queeny who proceeds to run around the blown out side of the VIP cell and knock him the fuck out
>Queen out of sight so I kill the mech and a wave of reinforcements and send everyone to the roof while I figure out what to do
>Queen decides she isn't going to wait and takes the ladder in the middle of the room up
>drop her back down with a grenade
>she lands in the acid pool from earlier, out of sight
>send my Templar down to lure her to where she can more easily be shot from above, everything down there is acid and flames by this point
>she runs up, takes a swing, and misses
>rend for a stun
>fire a couple grenades down the hole at her
>run up to the edge and shoot her one more time
>she flees missing 51 hp and covered in flames and acid
>mfw

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>kill Chosen in her lair
>even the first section is supposed to be super secret
>the second section is only accessible by teleporter and may be under the ocean for all I know
>"It was just a training exercise! Everything was simulated!"

Maybe she's talking about an actual unrelated training exercise that we didn't even know about.

>my chosen assassin has the following strengths:
>CANNOT TRIGGER OVERWATCH OR REACTIONS
>IMMUNE TO MELEE
>CAN END TURNS WITH OVERWATCH AFTER USING ALL ACTIONS
>CAN SUMMON MECH UNITS
WHAT DO I DO
THIS IS HELL

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Is the black market closing dark event permanent with the grim horizon option?

>>188435476
Shoot her until she dies

Is there any reason to rush the stronghold missions before you get plasma? All 3 of my chosen are at 3 knowledge and I get the feeling I'm going to get forced to play 3 avenger defense missions in a row and get raped in will.

Also, is the avenger defense still as bullshit as it was in vanilla? I hated the idea that your entire run could be based off whether your sharpshooters had a clear line of sight to the beacon and you offered a sacrificial ranger to ADVENT. It felt super binary and bullshit to me.

>First supply run
>clear out the first pod ezpz
>assassin shows up
>no big deal
>pops out of stealth and 1HKOs my grenadier
>see where she disappears off to and go to nail her
>reveal a pod
>another pod patrols in
>completely flanked and outgunned
>priest takes up position behind a tree and drop stasis on my sniper
>2v9 now and can't drop the assassin
>she disappears so I drop some of the sadvent rolling
>stasis drops
>assassin nothing personnel's the sniper anyway
>realize I have no chance of winning this and have to evac out
>assassin mindrapes my infantry before we can gtfo

failure hurts, anons

>>188435672
yes, now you just have a Reaper stand on the opposite side of the map instead of the sacrificial ranger though

>>188435539
Permanentfor six weeks

What's the counterplay to priests sustain?

>>188436004
kill them last

>>188436004
Kill harder or remove it from the ini.

>>188418776

I'm getting the endless lost loop bug. I can't get my turn. Any tips?

>mission that never ends because not a single alien location played and a lost was on the other side of the map standing in a closet
>took 30turns to find the fucker so my will went to shit

>>188434098
I personally put the resistance ring before training center. The rewards + stat ups from that are better since it'll take awhile for your soldiers to build up enough points to buy skills any way.

>>188435476
explosives

Alright, I need to get back into the groove of things.
I don't have the new expansion, but I haven't beaten the original game yet.
What's a good research order and what's worth doing on the map? Right now I can scan for intel or go pick up some rookies.
I've heard scanning for supplies isn't worth it.
Am I more or less just waiting for missions so my guys can get exp (and some reward)?

>>188426004
The best EU tracks were the ones that had nothing to do with the tone of the game that played when the camera was at weird angles in a building. I was never able to tell if that was XCOM or my computer, but it was weird to go from the combat tracks to that.

>>188429420
Solar System XCOM where you have to protect a rebuilding Earth from [NEW THREAT], shit the Elders left behind, and rogue human groups that fucked off to other planets so they could do weird shit without anyone to stop them. You'd have to balance the demands/needs of Earth nations to defend/construct orbital infrastructure and defenses so they'll divert their precious reconstruction funds to XCOM, help corps and smaller groups set up colonies to get access to space materials n' such, maintain sensors/bases to keep an eye on the system, and carefully manage your small fleet of ships and troops so that you can effectively deal with threats as they arise.

>>188436004
Remove the cover they are behind and overwatch them

Am I missing something or can Psi operatives not use AP?

Can the Assassin spawn without Shadowstep? She had it in all 3 of my runs so far and i have to imagine that she would be really bad without it.

>>188436817
They don't need to, they already can get every psi ability.

>>188436964

no

>>188436964

It's reportedly possible.

Imagine if all advent units were as badass as skirmishers.

2 things:
1. My PC randomly just reboots itself while playing XCOM 2. This started happening today, something about asus power surge protection. What's the deal? It only happens on XCOM.

2. What kinds of teams do you usually bring to missions? I usually roll with 2 grenadiers, a sharpshooter, and a ranger. Seems to work well.

>>188437018
>Wasted a Genuis recruit by making her a Psi Operative
Well shit, I was atleast hoping she could pick up some other abilities outside her class

>>188437353
I try and get a nice even spread of classes, but I'll always bring a Specialist specced into medkits. If it's a Blacksite/grab the thingamagig/rescue mission, I bring a Grenadier with as many grenades as he can carry to bust open an entrance/exit for my team. If a mission has the Lost, I bring my BLADESTORM Templar.

are the reaper, skrim, and templar xcom abilities supposed to be randomized?

because every soldier I've got have all had the abilities, just at different ranks

along with that, all of the faction soldiers outside of the one I start with have standard CI

this doesn't seem right to me

>>188437605
They get abilities they can actually use.

>>188437665

right, but I keep seeing people saying that they're getting bladestorm on their templars, which I've never had

everything else is very useful

>>188418776

Ok, how the fuck do I use skirmishers?

>>188436004
I usually have a bladestorm ranger finish them off with a slash or run and gun them down. When they wake up from stasis, they're flanked so they decide to fuck off and get shanked in the process.

>>188437804

I use them like a more mobile ranger

>>188437353
>asus power surge protection

It means that your having some kind of power issue. Check your PSU and the connections to the Motherboard. Another possibility is your RAM. Are you sure you have the right RAM for your motherboard? When it gets taxed, it might increase it's draw rate more then your motherboard says it should and so your computer is forcing a shutdown to protect the motherboard. RAM could also just be going bad. Do a stress test on them and see if your computer resets.

>>188437779
Templar are a bit more random than Reapers and Skirmishers since they have a pool of 8 random abilities compared to the Reaper's 6 and the Skirmisher's 5.

>>188437804
grapple to higher ground and shoot twice, pull people out of cover with Justice, that sort of thing. They get a "I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Bladestorm!" kind of ability at some point, which is nice.

>>188437905

huh, then it kind of makes sense that my 3 skirms all had the same abilities

Thanks anon, I didn't know that!

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I'm making lewd Templars and nobody can stop me.

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>>188437184
>>188437138
>>188436964

If i understand this right, now if you play the Lost and Abandoned mission.

as someone who liked long war 1 a lot, and has never played xcom 2... should I play lw2 or the new expansion?

>>188437779
The list of random abilities for each class is pretty small. Skirmisher has 4, templar has 7 and reaper has 5. You can view, add or remove them in the defaultclassdata ini
I'm going to try giving templars blademaster during my next playthrough

>>188437898
It's weird though. XCOM has never caused this to happen before. It only started happening after I played some WOTC today. I used to be able to play the base game just fine. I'll check out the stress tests though.

>>188438237

WoTC is leagues better than LW2.

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>>188433346
Luck

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>>188423548

>>188438282
Hardware can fail at any moment. What worked fine yesterday, might not the next. I've had to replace Graphics cards that fried themselves for 'no reason'. Anything in your computer might be going bad and you won't know until it actually causes a problem.

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>>188433810
No

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>>188438010
and waifs

>>188438335
Really I've heard LW2 is really good.

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>>188433346
It just depends if corpses end up in the photobooth reference points or not.

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>>188438010
>lewding my templar waifu
STOP THIS MADNESS IN THE NAME OF YOUR COMMANDER

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1128718069

Finally

>>188437804
You use them for when you need a trooper that can do alot of things at once.

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>>188438828

>I've heard LW2 is really good.

Well regardless of if this is bait or not, i think most people would agree that WoTC is better, outside of those super autismos like Xwynns.

What are some must can QoL mods for WoTC?
I only have the numeric display for HP one.

>>188438029

I guess I should have specified: it's reportedly possible for her not to have it if you skip the L&A mission, but she'll always spawn with Shadowstep if you play it.

>>188438892

What the heck is this meme?

>>188438828
I think LW2's reception has been much more mixed than LW1. It basically doubles down on a lot of mechanics and playstyles that some people didn't love about X2. So there's a good chance that how you feel about LW2 is going to be a more extreme like/dislike of how you felt about X2.

Wotc opens the game up a bit more, adding new mechanics and variety on the strategic and tactical layers, and seems to be appealing to a broader audience because of it.

>>188439221
LW2 method of game design: Grenadiers are too strong, nerf them to hell.
Jake method of game design: Grenadiers are too strong, buff everyone else (and grenadiers too just not as much).

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>over 125 xcom AP stocked but I'm never going to use it because I feel like it will be a waste

>>188439382
It is a waste not putting them to work.

>>188439321
Kind of. Even though it's an over-simplification, buffing the other classes feels more interesting because of the new abilities and mechanics that comes with that.

Is there a list of every action you can take to generate AP? Are there limits on how many times you can trigger a gain in a mission? Does combat intelligence effect the gain rate at all?

>>188439382
Every point you don't spend is a skill you can't use to keep someone alive. Keep maybe 50 or so to buy some good skills when someone levels up, but otherwise they're a waste just sitting there.

>>188439382
This desu. I don't use AP. I don't use weapon mods. I don't use implants. I never use elixir or the masterball.

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>>188438828
Sure love spending 500 turns trying to kill 280 enemies on a single mission

>>188438828
>Really I've heard LW2 is really good.
It's got a lot of good but it's also got a lot of bad.
I'd say I enjoy LW2 more than WoTC right now because I forgot how in vanilla x-com 2 cover doesn't exist.

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>>188435794
I know tfw

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>>188439652
Sure but here's your squadsize

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Covert Actions for converting the Chosen to your side when?

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>>188439652
Good 'ol days

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>>188439647
> Don't use weapon mods

Your fucking loss man. That Resistance Order that doubles all weapon mod bonuses is absolutely absurd.

SPARKs with Advanced Hair Triggers are my new favorite thing.

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>>188439870
You can make your own Chosen like this Anon, make the same soldier go on any Cover Action that gives +dodge or any skill for desired Chosen

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>>188440003
>stack Aim through Covert Ops
>better weapon mods
>Superior Repeater
>Superior Hair Trigger
>Superior Extended Magazine
This should be illegal

>>188426310
I think it's a bug since I'm having this too. I've got a big character pool but I was getting randos right from the start.

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>>188440031

>>188438469

Is there any reason to get Death from Above if I have the Darklance?

>>188440427
Does it not let you keep shooting like serial?

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Oh, a different gatecrasher

>>188440427
>Is there any reason to have a free Serial whenever you're on high
Even with a regular rifle it's a must take for free reloads after a spree shoot, on the Darklance its just free podwipes

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>>188439382
>but what if I need it later?
>reach the end of the game
>but what if I still need it later?

This mentality has plagued me forever and I hate it.

>>188440558

So it makes kills free actions?

That's super OP

>>188440427
Having Darklance won't stop your turn from ending when you use it like a normal rifle. Only needing one action just means the sniper can move and shoot it.

>>188439382
I always keep 50 in stock and only spend AP on low intel soldiers.

>>188439647
>I don't use weapon mods. I don't use implants
Get the mod that allows you to take them on and off as you please, then you'll start using them

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>Its an "80% means 0%" mission.

Should I play Long War 2 before I play vanilla XCOM 2? I played enemy unknown and the first Long War.

>>188439220
GoT memes got crazy in the week that the finale was expected to leak but didn't

>>188440916
You should play vanilla first + WotC then your own personally modded campaign, not LW2.

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How do I destroy the sarcophagus? None of my troops can fire at it.

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propaganda centre is pretty sweet

>>188440003
>Doubles
What? I don't think that was a Resistance Order you could level-up, and it only added 1 level

>>188441017
Shoot it with your gun

>>188440996
Thanks for advice. What's the reason for not playing LW2?

>>188441124
There's no reason to play LW over WotC

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>operation sinking empire
>get to kill the viper king

>>188441017
That happened to me too, it became shootable again after killing the chosen a couple of times. I think it's an issue with Assassins arena.

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>>188441097

I'm disappointed at the lack of 9S cosmetics, he is the one with the ayy hateboner.

having never played xcom 2 should I turn lengthy scheme and time turner on? or are the vanilla time limits generous?

Fucking hell Remote Start is OP.
>Snuck near the facility I am to destroy with X4
>See a BEEEEEG tank of presumably fuel
>My Remote Start Engourges
>See area of effect
>MFW WHOLE FACILITY BLAST WITH A WHOOPING 20 DAMAGE
>Engage
>Three fucking levels in a building, 3 of the 4 its structural walls and several pods insude get pulverised

Reapers

>>188441405
Vanilla time limits are more than generous if you know what you are doing. They force you to play aggressive and push ahead instead of playing it save. If you turn them off, you get an almost completely different game where you can just overwatch hop to the objective. I suggest keeping them on and turning down the difficulty if you have any problem with them.

>>188441405

Depends on your play style, if you like going slow and subscribe to the school of Beagle "I take 50 turns per mission" Rush then you'll want double timers. The avatar project timer is pretty generous either way.

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>>188440906
>it's a "95% means 0%" mission

>Start modding up after a vanilla WotC run
>Going though and getting WotC versions and removing non-compatible ones
>Move one tile on gatecrasher
>Crash
>Can't figure out why
>Finally figure out that I had two versions of the same mod on, but they were at the top and bottom of my list so I didn't see them
>Blog on 4chan

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>>188441509
Picrelated
Collateral damage so high that we really shouldn't even have bothered with X4

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>>188441509
I had a Dark VIP mission where 2 and a half pods were just chilling next to the VIP's car. Fuck the intel, it was too juicy.

>>188441586
Was it the WOTC "health display" and the WOTC "Additional Icons"?

>Rush magnetic weapons
>No alien alloy
Wait was this bullshit in Xcom 2 vanilla? Or was it something they added so people won't rush magnetic weapons?

>>188441716

It's a side effect of the harder supply raids where you get less resources because ADVENT keeps stealing them all.

>>188441560
>>188441526
How are the vanilla difficulties? I would consider myself not a baby, and pretty good at videojuegos. Should I just start on commander?

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>>188440906
>>188441579
>It's a "You shoot, you hit" mission

>>188441712
It was actually instant avengers menus. I looked a both of those before I even started XCOM 2 and decided that health display was redundant.

>>188441785

I take it by your question that you are not familiar with Xcom, i recommend Veteran.

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>>188441664
>do a facility solo with a reaper
>sectopod stomps about
>starts fires
>shit explodes
>lost show up to slap shit
>more explosions
I was tempted to stay and watch, shit was hilarious

>>188441785
Start with veteran. After a few hours if it is too easy, up it to commander. But i recommend you stay on Vet for your first run. Things can get very punishing on commander and up if you have no idea what you are going to go up against.

ALRIGHT!
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT!
How is hacking determined? Is it decided whether you will pass or fail either choice at the beginning of the turn? Because I noticed you get farther for different squares when you load but I failed all of my 18% chances so now I have a 56% chance and I just fucking failed 10 of those.

So do I need to save and load or is it determined already?
Jesus fucking Christ. A 45 minutes. Gone.

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>>188442121
Savescummers everyone

>>188442235
I want those alloys.

>>188442121
Seeds are determined at the start of the turn to stop save scummers like you

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>>188442121

>savescumming

>>188442121
Hacking and damage dealt (not hit chance) aren't tied to the predetermined seed set after actions.
You're just unlucky, savescum.

>>188442121
Each hack works on the same RNG as shooting, If you savescum then all you do is lock the % to a certain number. It's better to restart the turn and do things differently on the turn if you MUST savescum it

If it matters to you that much then just console command the reward to yourself and fail the hack reward, it's faster

>>188442121
Your next rng for shots/hacks is determined the moment you peformed your last rng action.
So even if you keep savescumming the roll/seed is the same.
You need to perform another action that uses rng to get a new roll/seed.

Eh fine then.
I don't like how it makes me feel like my hits are pre-determined though.
Really sucks the strategy out if you play fair, always in high cover, all the advantages and that stuff.

>>188442593
Your hits aren't pre-determined.
The seeds are. There is a difference.
How is save scumming "fair"?

>>188442593
RNG is a thing, if you can't handle it then you shouldn't be playing the game. If everything goes your wall you'll snowball the entire game

>>188442593
It's about as predetermined as russian roulette anon. There's some bad rolls mixed in with good rolls, just like there are empty chambers and one with a live round.

You spin the cylinder, put the gun to your head and hope you get the empty chamber.

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WHERE IS THE WEAPON PACK

>>188442593
Mate, the whole idea of this game is that certainties are extremely valuable.
X% Chance that this fucking muton dies.
X% Chance that my guy survives that one muton that I could not kill.
X% Chance that the muton will not grenade two of my guys

You are not alone in your savescumming ways, but please have the decency to not sperg out when you cannot handle the reality of RNG.

>>188442864
The REACH weapon mod pack came out, I'm disappointed that the AR and DMR don't use the bullpup reload though, but I can live without it