/gwt/ - GWENT: The Witcher Card Game General

1st for shitty incompetent devs are ruining a potentially fine game

Marching Orders pulls spies now? Fuck that.

>>187860472
>Menno
Can now kill any unit on the board with a single set up that also boosts all your other synergies. Leaving him in the previous state would me auto-win of any given round by the spy player.
>Ceallach
Changed, not nerfed, more usable now with the new enforcers and the old brigades.
>Assassins
How the fuck can they be nerfed if they never existed before? And you want a bronze card to be able to be an autokill of any SK unit at any stage of the game, like bronze Eskels but even better? You're a worse balancer than Rethas.
Assasins are pretty great now, they work very well as control options with enforcers/brigades synergy.
>Treason
That's true, the cap is way too low and it's shit. But without one it could be more ridiculous than old Menno.
>Rot Tosser
Also true.
>They also have lowest averaged strength
I have been winning against mulligan ST with my spy assassin deck and overpowering them in round 1 with all cards used in both hands. Where is your god now?

Why i have still locked Skellige ciri, I'm at rank 11

>>187862042
end of the season reward

>>187862079
Oh.

>>187862079
how long is a season?

>>187862436

2-3 months.

>>187861543
treason should be capped at 13 strength desu

>>187862436
around 2-3 months. this season just started

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>go first
>lose

HAHHAHA FUCKING EPIC RETHAZ DOES IT AGAIN

>>187863516
turn advantage has never meant any less than it does now, gravehag is done for it's over anon

i just want to play francesca because i like the card art
hell the only reason i play gwent is because i really like the card art

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Whelp, secured my waifu, I'll see you lads till the hotfix.

dead game ruined by shit devs

I am already conditioned to recoil at the sight of Golds in my hand because bronzes are just better.

most of the new cards ended up being a disappointment

>>187866790
It's at the point where im throwing away silvers for bronzes.

>>187869715

>oh I'm down by 26?
>better play an Emissary I guess

I'm playing a monster deck with Succubus, Scorch and Igni just to counter all the fucking decks that end up with 15+ point bronzes. It's working surprisingly well.

Given the choice, what would you choose, boost or wound?

>>187871198

Not really sure what you're asking.

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>All my favorite archetypes were killed off
>My favorite faction is shit
>One of my favorite leaders is the worst card in the game
>Bronzes are swinging more than 95% of golds

This the darkest timeline. I need a long break.

Why are the Eleven Wardancers getting buffed to 5?

>>187871994
they likely mulligan'd a vanguard last to buff em by 1.

>>187873004

What does the Vanguard do exactly? Buff every elf when it gets mulliganed?

>>187873094
Exactly.

>>187873138

That's stupid.

>go first
>down by 10 points already

>>187873357
yeah ST is pretty stupid right now. War Dancer is just bad design, before the game even starts they've already thinned their deck and gone up 4-8 points, and even if you somehow manage to out tempo them R1, you can lose the free pass round 2 due to War Dancer again

It's fucking idiotic. Apparently Veteran was such a problem they removed it from cards in Skellige and ruined my boost deck but for some reason handbuff is FINE?

>>187873357
Oh yeah and it gets stupider when you get to Mulli ST's bread n butter combo
>farseer on the board (8 base)
>drop an officer on the board (6 base)
>mulligan a vanguard due to officer's effect (+5 to officer, +1 to each elf)
>boost triggers farseer's effect (+2 to farseer)

In two cards you have like... 23 points if I'm mathing right? Not even counting any other elves you may have on the board already, or pulling out.

Hows control Radovid looking? Is spell/weather still viable or the machine version? Is baron even shitter now?

I don't get it. Why do they hate Skellige so much?

Like so much of the faction was just beaten to uselessness.

>Bears
>Mork
>Hjalmar
>Shieldmaidens
>Bran
>Lugos
>Raiders
>Pirate Captains
>The entirety of the self-wound/boost archetype was essentially crushed
>Axemen
>Old boats

Like what the fuck, this is now how you make balance changes.

>>187874242
not*

>>187873671
Does this affect the ambush elf that turns over when opponent passes? I don't want to have to play this game with a calculator

>>187874384
thankfully not.

>>187874242
SK is actually pretty good. Just under represented. Buffing, ressurecting and war cry still work well, but that's probably due to the fact that everybody is trying out decks nobody understands

>>187874242

Bears were literally broken.

Mork got nerfed for sure, but he's still pretty strong. He was the staple of a tier 1 deck last patch.

Hjalmar is useless, I agree. Him and Tibor need a rework.

Shieldmaidens were OP as fuck. They feel fine now.

Bran is veteran now so who cares?

Lugos got one point taken off, big whoop.

Raiders... yeah I don't know why they nerfed Raiders.

Pirate Captains were unga. Needed a change.

Self-wound is better now than it ever has been.

Axemen are fucking cancer that need to be removed from the game permanently.

does locking remove spy tag?

if enemy toggles spy on my unit can i lock it

>>187875396
Yes.

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>tfw the OP earth elemental thingy perfectly fits into my NR machines deck

dead game dead general

>>187876661
it's kind of funny, its the same with all card games, the only real enemy to the game's survivability are the devs themselves

>>187876661
its 100% dead at american hours

nobody plays this in america the leaderboards there are so much lower compared to eu

>Hey guys let's make it so gold are attackable
>Let's also not rework the likes of Tibor, Hjalmar, Unseen Elder or Bloody Baron just let them be lmao

a

They could have made goldens immune to "destroy" effects, like scorch and Gigni. I think that'd be the best choice, and borkh wouldn't be so bad then

>>187878896

Don't forget:

>lmao old spotters and pirate caps were unfun cancer, but let's keep Dol Blathanna protectors untouched while giving spell spam SC a bunch of new tools

>lmao carryover is cancer, let's nerf harpies and nuke dorfs into the ground
>but don't forget to give elves the ability to spawn 6+ earth elementals

>golds can get locked now bruh
>aight so we have to change borkh, yencon, trissbutt, speartip and ciridash to be actually useful, right?
>naw senpai just slap some armor on them or give them a shitty deathwish lol

>aight so we want people to play SK wounding light longships and axemen again
>cool so here's this great new card that likes being damaged, and a baller new leader for axemen
>LAMO F A M let's give every single deck a fuckton of movement/7str removal and nerf axemen into the fucking ground that's perfect bratan let's go eat some kielbasa and fuck cheap hookers

Yeah CDPR is trash. If Rethaz reads this, just know that you will never EVER come even close to balancing a game as well as icefrog. fuck you

>>187882146

Just make different damage types imo. Even something like a magic/physical split (shit like machines deals physical, while YenCon or Philippa Eilhart deals magic. Heck they alreayd have the animations for it).

Golds can have one type of immunity, or, rarely, both. That way you can have, say, tibor be magic immune and unable to be scorched, while a card like old succubus is phyiscally immune and can't die to some random skellige warship lobbing arrows at it

>>187861405
fpbp

Balance team are a fucking joke.

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Just beat mulligan and 2 frost niggers with SK Boats for my daily in a row

Eat my ass faggots, An Craite for life

>>187883361
he cant keep getting away with it

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>tfw started playing a week before the patch

I already bought a starter pack. Did I let the jews win?

>>187883742
>Did I let the jews win?
we all did anon....we all did

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I'm currently playing against an NR mill deck.

>>187884086
if you kill le 2 cards man its not as bad of a match up

>>187886947

>le 2 cards man

Who?

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>Celaeno Harpy
>Woodland Spirit
>summon Roach
>spawn Wolf, summon a Harpy
>spawn Wolf, spawn Wolf, summon a Harpy
>???
>PROFIT

>>187887861
Avalla'ch

a

>>187888351
Where's your foglet?

I have over 300 hours in this game. I have auto-forfeited every single time somebody has played RNR or Drought. AMA

>>187893969
Why don't you just run some weather clears? They only do 2 damage to each row, anon.

>>187894476

Weather is utter trash that should be removed from the game without prejudice. Gold weather is cancer on a level that I can't even fathom.

>>187894561
Gold weather is pretty shit, anon.

>>187894809

>win condition requires you to play a long round
>RNR :^)

>>187894838
So just rowstack or run weather clears.

>>187894947

>Hailstorm :^) lol baited

>>187895019
So you really hate weather and yet you refuse to run any of the cards that counter it and just forfeit instead. Seems smart.

>>187895334

Running weather clear units does not counter it, as you get punished for row stacking with Hailstorm. People are deliberately running RNR + Hailstorm for this exact purpose. The only other option is to run First Light. The problem there is that running 3 of them would cripple your deck, and running 1 of them means you'll never see it. Also, you'll never know whether to keep the First Light in your hand because these fucks are playing RNR in random decks that have nothing else to do with weather.

>>187895452
Clearing one row and then playing into two or three rows is fine if you're worried about hailstorm. You forgot about just running a silver mage or you could go full kambi and punish them for running weather.

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lol how the fuck does this game work now

why the fuck are golds useless now

I've had to scrap all of my deck

Everyone I face now is Mulligan

Why do bad things happen to good people

>>187896460
what deck did you scrap anon?

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>>187896673
I had to scrap my elf/scorch deck :[

>Flamboyant elf pyro just scorches himself now lmao
>7 Orders bitch is now 10 mulligan card
>Fucking everything on the board is 12+ now so scorch isn't as devastating
>I can't win by just having a bunch of 2s everywhere
>Sad boy

>>187897027
Ah yeah that was probably the deck that got hit the hardest, You could of converted it into ST mulligan if you wanted

>>187897159
This current meta is fucking trash I think I'm just done playing till the inevitable fix

So is the purpose of the high/pro ladder for CDPR to actual get good meta information?

Because I swear ST as a faction needs some fucking downtuning

>>187897724

The purpose of the pro ladder is to generate buzz.

Has anyone made any Bonhart + Cantarella fan art like the Sarah + Baron stuff?

>>187871198
You'd almost always want X points of control rather than X points of buff

>>187874824
>Hjalmar is useless, I agree. Him and Tibor need a rework.
No, golds need to become invulnerable again reeeeeeeeeee

Why does Eskel, a neutral card, get to be strictly better than Menno and Vabjorn, faction cards?

>>187899381
better vs fucking what?
like best value from him is sniping something annoying like mangonel or something like ciaran
everything in the meta boosts and the only thing hes strictly better vs is like light longship or trololo

>>187899381
Eskel is better than vabjorn cause vabjorn is a massive piece of shit and menno is better when used in spy NG for killing boosted big boys

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Been having fun with this. You basically just kill everything your opponent plays. Still loses to Mulligan, but I've been having good luck in most other match-ups. Not sure about Vilgefortz, just needed to fill out the slot.

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Post your dicks

a

Cards aren't millable for full value anymore?

give up

>>187903925
Oh nevermind, didn't realize 80% of the card changes aren't full value mills.

>>187898898

Good idea. That way the game can come who plays the most gold cards Round 3 The video game

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>>187861272
Alright, /gwt/

I have a VERY IMPORTANT question that could make or break an entire archetype.

You put a silver unit on the board. Your opponent plays Artefact Compression.

You play Summoning Circle.

Do you get a) A copy of the Jade Token or b) A copy of the silver unit?

AC is a transform effect - does that count as "placing a unit on the board", as SC says?

Cause if so, the answer will be a), obviously

I'm struggling with making a mill deck, I have no idea what bronzes I should be using. Emissaries would fuck me over, surely? So far I'm think a mix of tossers, enforcers, 1 weather clear, and 2 magnetic to close out the game

>>187863516
>go down 3 cards to win round 1 because I went first
>win round 3 with 5 cards still in my hand up

just play Mill, anon.

>>187904869
Oh, and medics

>>187904858

I think you get the un-transformed unit. Is this a quiz.

>>187904869
3x Magne 3x Spearmen 1x Novice 1x Shackles 1x Potion so Novice isn't dead all the time.

That's 9.

At least 2 standard bearers because weather + X can easily kill your Avallac'h in his gold form, which is ironically more vulnerable than the silver form

The rest are tech cards, literally put in whatever you want. Lacerate, Thunder, Rot Tossers, etc. Don't play Emissaries, it's too much deck thinning.

>>187904990
It's not a quiz, it's me wanting to know the interaction because AC might completely counter a deck I'm building, or give it a free win - depending on the answer.

>>187905097
>>187904869
shit, I forgot.

You definitely want at least 1 Combat Engineer to play on the Spearmen because they stay on the board and get boosted right at the start of the round when both players draw cards.

>>187905201

Well, I'm pretty confident in my answer. Nobody runs Artefact Compression anyway.

>>187905363
Thanks!.

They do run it, though. Coral, as well.

Ever since the last update I lost all will to play. NR are a joke compared to ST, who is played by everyone. I think I'll stop playing for a while and see if anything changes before the final release.

>>187863516
you mostly lose when you go first bumbass...

>>187905097
>>187905301
Thank you very much!

>>187888351
you foglet forget [pun intended]

>>187904858
just right click and see what you get...

ST is a little bit too strong, but other factions are playable
Armor NR is competetive
Selfwound- and Discard SK is great
Spy NG is a clusterfuck but comes out on top very often
Mill NG is fun as fuck and you win more games than last patch

>>187906406
what? does right clicking on SC shows you what you get? fuck I had no idea

Rot Tossers are fucking DEAD now that even golds can block them, fuck

>>187906845
they still trigger spy mechanics and force your enemy to counter them with stupid play
Mogwai keeps them in hand for round 3 for example and its good

>>187906614
>little
>LITTLE
I'm sorry is an 18 point bronze with no setup AND Mulligan too weak for you?

When exactly does the big boy ladder start?

>>187907550
the sooner the better

>no Hotspurn card with art of when he dies sucking Ciri's nipple

>>187873671
i know i'm like 10 hours behind but mulligan ST usually doesn't run farseer. i made a homebrew mulligan + farseer deck right after patch hit and while it works nicely the strongest mulligan deck use the horse dudes that move units around and commander's horn that works much better. farseers work in synergy with dragoons and they're very vulnerable. that kind of deck is called handbuff ST it's meh + at best

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Mill Ehmyr with the right tech cards is overall the strongest deck in the game. Not only does it beat every ST archetype, ST archetype are its best matchups.

The only real problem are NG decks that run Assassin and Ceallach.

>>187909113
I hadn't considered the Vrihedd Brigades. I'll have to give them a shot though, considering that locking up/assassinating/Serriting my farseers has been the most consistent way my friend has shut my deck down.

>>187909725
Brigades are insane. Weathing immunity, rot tosser counter, igni setup, lacerate setup, hailstorm setup, disruption against SK point engines, they do it all.

And they're fucking 8 str to boot.

>>187909725
when i started the game before the meta settled and before i even know how overpowered mulligan ST was i had a deck with 3 farseers 3 dragoons 3 vanguards and 3 officers. then i had stuff like operator to give me another farseer. when it worked my entire board was buffed and could reach 200+ points in a long round. problem is that it takes a long time to set up farseers and dragoons both of which are vulnerable to control and locks, also you'll have to interact with your opponent too to an extent so that slows you down. i had a picture posted of this deck like 1-2 threads ago i'll try to find it

as the dude above me said they're insane, if you run aglais and match up against a spell user you can double hailstorm someone

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>>187909902
here it is, handbuff mulligan ST. only works well in long rounds against an opponent with low amount of control

>>187910036
>not censuring the titles

doxxing Mr. Pioneer and 3D-printing his credit card as we speak

kill yourself

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>>187910036
and this was the deck, except braenn was replaced with toruviel

>>187909719
what if you are unlucky and never pick up avallac'h?

>>187910297
mill decks run stefan to prevent this problem

What goldens should i include in my dwarf deck?
Dwarf dragon, zoltan C and?

>>187910297
stefan gives you a second chance.

albrich can act as a mini avallach until you draw him

if you don't have stefan, albrich, or avallach round 1, you play a spearman, give it resilience next turn, pass, and try again round 2.

>>187910392
i get it, stefan then albrich

>I'm higher rank than lifecoach right now

wew

i got a premium RNR in my starter pack. is there anything good i can do with it? xmen seem pretty dead

>>187910781

RNR + Hailstorm.

>>187910805
but in what deck

>>187906614
mill NG is a piece of degenerate shit that forces all decks to run at least 30 cards to not get milled to death, which additionally keeps mulligan ST - already the best deck/faction in the game - top tier.

Then you have armor NR which forces you to run hailstorm and demerit.


so in order to even kinda sorta compete in this meta you need:

-30 cards for NG mill
-be able to compete with the first turn 40 points whatever mulligan gets every time
-be able to handle armor by taking the required demerit/hailstorm

and then you have the new selfwound SK WHICH FURTHER keeps the top tier, top tier, because it instantly kills any deck trying to compete with mulligan by doing large interactive point swings.


terrible meta

>>187910427
you'd be stupid not to run isengrim in every single ST deck imo

>>187910863

Literally anything.

>>187910907
by interactive i mean you ping the other board with enemy damage or etc.

the new gold change didn't really affect much, besides making Bork even worse, in a meta where we could use him most

>>187910907
shut up and run an artifact compression for the avallac'h

>>187911007
so you're telling to me run mulligan so I can shut it down 100% of the time

i already knew that though

>>187910981
why do people run vattier in reveal deck when cahir can reveal 4 units of your choice instead of vattier that has a condition of revealing 2 in your hand in exchange for 2 in your opponent's hand? sure vattier has higher str but less flexibility now

>>187911067
most of the time you have two or more units to reveal and trigger
its also nice to reveal your high STR unit for spotters instead of take a lucky reaveal-shot at your opponents hand

>>187911342
my point is you can reveal your hand with cahir too

The game keeps crashing the fuck out after the patch, anybody else?
Scared of going into ranked because of this shit, guess I'll be skipping the season altogether

Just for background, i finished last season at top 300. I knew exactly how to approach every different meta deck and very easily knew exactly how much points my opponent was able to produce and how to counter it.
With this patch everything feels like mindless tempo spam. Its not just mulligan but many decks are just able to produce crazy amounts of tempo really quickly. I often find round 1 scores within the 80-130 points. Anyway the problem is decks are now able to generate so much tempo that it pressures you to match their tempo or risk going 2 cards down. Thus you are almost forced to play as high tempo as possible to match your opponents tempo.
Additionally spies seem really powerful now with the overall power increase of cards, spies become more valuable than ever. You can much more freely play spies now as you are often very easily capable of overcoming your opponents score in 1 turn.
Idk im just not understanding something about this meta. I dont want to sound like I am complaining or adding to the bandwagon hate surrounding mulligan or this patch in general. But i do feel as if there seems to be less thinking involved in gwent now. I used to really think hard last patch and often use all my time to plan my current and following plays but now i just play whatever and yolo.
Any other high ranked players last season struggling to adapt to this new meta? My current stats are something like 38-50-2 which seems pretty bad considering i finished top 300 last season.
Edit: I have been trying out quite a large variety of decks in ranked without testing them first which may be the cause of many losses. But even when using my try hard mulligan deck it still doesn't feel right. Mindless tempo spam doesnt appeal to me as I feel there is little room to outsmart my opponent but rather simply out tempo them.

>>187911996
Again, Mill is the answer.

Go 2 cards to win round 1? Kek, that's like a dream scenario, you still win round 3 5 cards up.

For the mill deck, you run alchemists+ foot soldiers or does that thin you to much? If so what are replacements? One thunder bolt to not make the novice dead? Three standard bearers and?

>>187912180
see >>187905097 and >>187905301

>lose a game because my gold avallav'h dies to a 9-point scorch

kek

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> opponent plays agitator,gets a marauder
> play sweers
> send all his 3 marauders to the graveyard
> insta forfit

based sweers destroyer on win conditions

>>187913121
including your own.

when not even mill plays sweers, you know he's bad.

tech card against henselt IF you have him in your opening hand, nothing else.

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>first mill game
>super fucking nevious about fucking up
>don't get Avlach, panic before noticing I have steph and Novice for the shackles, slam that shit down one I play my spear man repeat with the combo
>Round three, operator for another mange division
>end up 6+ cards ahead of him, his last pathetic card is hailstorm compared to mine
I think I played it out rightly, but I need some slight advice from Mill vets, when you play assire, what cards are you meant to 100% put back in your deck, decoy and a spear man if any die?

Also, stop playing Mulligan.

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> pirate captains are d-

>>187913504
>mill player didn't run into Assassing NG

well done, anon.

Give me a nice Mill decklist.

le epic elf lady of double thunder casting SO FUCKING BALANCE.

>>187913698
How?

>>187914785
discard and resurrect skirmisher as many times as you can. strengthen it with draig bon dhu, then restore it and discard it again. it's vulnerable to mill nigger because it has tons of deck thinning but it's very strong as you can see

i didn't see this deck before,went to gwentdb about found this http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/29602-tuirseach-captain

basically he changed some golds to suit his taste and added an operator for another pirate captain.smart guy

>>187913698
oh shit, son

you fucked up. ran facial recognition on your portrait and the FBI is on their way

nu siege "master" doesn't let you move around machines. deck ruined

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>dragon in armor

>>187913496
I dont know, he fucks up mulligan ST pretty hard

ranked and leaderboard are locked what in the fuck? don't tell me that was only a placeholder season until today i didn't get my unmasked iorveth yet

>>187917457
just restart

>Millguard plays Avallach
>"shhh, nothing personal" him
>player stops playing but remain in the game

why do people do this? or did he rage so hard he died?

>>187918595
people who play decks that abuse game mechanics lose it completely when they get outplayed. it's the same with spelltael,always was

>>187918595
Funny how NG is best at cucking NG. Nilfgaard is the only faction that came out of this patch fine, all archetypes became better and more fun without being retarded like mulligan.

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>>187909719
>Not only does it beat every ST archetype, ST archetype are its best matchups.
I disagree.
I tried my cancer Thunder deck all night and I got a 100% winrate against Mill
> Avallac'h
Ithlinne into double thunder. If Ithlinne not in hand, use Royal decree.
> Albritch
Eskel or Compression or Nature's gift into Compression.
If you expect a long round, play farseers (Going to anyway) and weather.

From my experience, most people will disconnect or just pass in frustration.

>>187918828
>abuse game mechanics

how else are you supposed to win, or even play? pretty sure every single card in every single one of your decks relies on one mechanic or another

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>>187919034
every deck has a mechanic, mill abuses the mechanics behind the GAME though

CDPR fucked up with emhyr and when mill came along it "unfucked" emhyr for them so they embrace mill even though it's cancer

>>187918881
played against mill today as reveal. he gave me 2 spotter and 3 mangonels with the copy dudes, than i dropped assire r3 and shuffled roche and a golem back to my deck and he quit

>>187919257
oh yeah, and Spellita doesn't? Fuck off God net deckers are pathetic.

>>187919620
> spelltael
my opinion on that cancer deck is written here >>187918828

no deck should be allowed to have 5+ card advantage over the other

>>187919257
what

mulligan is a game mechanic

discard is game mechanic

reveal is a game mechanic

consume is a game mechanic

>muh abuse

fuck off, man

>>187919786
avallach was created for deck thinning purposes and albrich was created for both that and reveal boost back when spotters got buffed for revealing, these cards weren't made to drain decks to 0. truth hurts

>>187919257
this fag is so fucking mad that he has to use an image reaction to hide the fact he his so butthurt :^)

>>187919912
never lost to mill once.even with thin decks :^)

>>187919993
sure thing sweetheart

>>187919890
this your first card game? players always come up with ways to play that the creators didn't think off initially

>>187920525
>this your first card game?
yes it is
> players always come up with ways to play that the creators didn't think off initially
correct, the problem is the devs adopted this because they wanted to save face and not turn emhyr to trash tier leader again

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>>187920619
>yes it is

cool. welcome.

Hailstorm needs a nerf, but it's the only thing that kinda keeps mulligan in check besides Mill NG.

>>187921048
d bomb works well too. it's hitting up to 5 targets now that's crazy

>>187919993
if your "thin deck" runs Assire or Nenneke, Mill literally can not beat you.

t. mill player

>>187920525
Not that guy but I see his point. The problem with mill is that this 'mechanic' doesn't mesh with the rest of the game. You don't draw cards every turn in Gwent, so naturally most decks try to maintain minimal 25 size and stock up on deck-thinning options. Mill capitalizes on the most sensible thing to do, essentially creating binary state of get-fucked-by-mill-or-get-fucked-by-every-other-deck. It's punishing players for doing good, because you want to thin and cycle through the deck, and you can't really play around it since Gwent also doesn't allow passing the turn.

>>187921175
zap/destroy/anally raped to death avallac'h and the fag is dead.

>>187921175
>'mechanic' doesn't mesh with the rest of the game

With cards like Spearman, Neophyte, Assire and Nenneke in the game, you say this. Amazing.

>naturally most decks try to maintain minimal 25 size and stock up on deck-thinning options.

Just another example of how Mill does fit within the game. Without mill there's literally nothing keeping hyper thin decks in check, and that's why Ciri Dash was so popular last patch, where Mill wasn't as good.

>Gwent also doesn't allow passing the turn

Try playing a silver spy sometime

>>187921348
I'm not saying that its unbeatable, just agreeing with original shitposter that milling doesn't really belong with Gwent's game design and the fact that it currently does is a testament to CDPR's neverending ineptitude.

>>187921348
avallach is 10 str you need arachas venom to kill him. or having an assassin

>>187921124
>That's crazy
You weren't here in closed beta where it hit the entire board, were you?

>>187921545
>that milling doesn't really belong with Gwent's game design
by what standard?

>>187921540
ciri dash was popular in the previous meta because gold bodies couldn't be hit. now you just lock her and it's over

>>187921175
how to beat mill for shitters in two steps:

1) see Emhyr

2) don't cycle your fucking cards

considering how many cards opponent wastes on cycling avallach, your power basse is easily higher than his even if you have to play all your musters and mulligans and discards from hand

>>187921980
welp confused him with assire. he's 8 still very hard to remove. assasination gold card can work too, best way to counter NG is by playing as NG

>>187922031
Dude, I told you, because Gwent has no natural card draw, players already want to mill their decks as much as they can. Self-milling is part of the game, a mechanic, milling abuses that by doubling the mill rate. Imagine that in Counter-Strike a player may choose to wear a special helmet that instakills anyone who lands a headshot on that player. Now the game punishes people for doing what they want to do - landing headshots.

>>187922263
If the developer didn't change the mechanism then there isn't an argument that milling doesn't belong to gwent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>187922654
the developers didn't change gravehag for several patches either

>>187922768
The reason is quite simple: they are fucking dumb (｀・ω・´)

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>people talking like NR isn't by far the best faction right now
>implying NR gives a fuck about mill
>implying ST can compete in a who has bigger numbers circlejerk with NR
>implying NR gives a fuck about spell ST

Do you all even play this game? I'm also sure that monsters and SK have some busted decks that haven't been explored yet

>>187923690
Literally can't stop fucking up
This train has no brakes

> matched against a full premium swim spelltael deck in casual

a netdecker,spelltael swim cancer and pay to transmute player all in one,jesus christ

Should i mill my regular cards after i get the premium?

>>187926207
Too many premiums might cause performance issues. If your PC too powerful to care, mill them

>come across a dagon swarm deck in casual without a single new card in it
>he ragequits as soon as it looks like he might not actually win round 3

>>187926207
Only if they're utter shit and sure to not be nerfed

Someone tried a witcher themed deck?

>>187926489
Witchers in this meta are only viable in that hensalt deck when he's got three supports out, I mean why run witchers/crones at all when a fucking ST bronze can achieve two points less than crones lmao.

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Is he the worst Gold card in the game right now?

>play any deck but ST
>get raped by ST
>play ST
>win every game

I see how it fucking is.

>>187926901
not even close

ST = broken
NG = strong but fair
NR = strong but fair
SK = needs a little love, just a little
Mons = needs some love

Officers from ST needs to be nerfed STAT.

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Wtf happened?

how viable is playing LC reveal deck on ranked? i took his deck and changed it a little (it's an improvement IMO). i'd take it to ranked but i'm afraid of getting my win rate raped

>>187927965
>wahhh im so shitty i cant beat an easy deck

why was rain changed again? it's a weather with absolute zero identity or strategy now it was just fine previous patch

>>187929040
Rain is better in axe decks

>>187929264
why hasn't anyone made an axeguy deck with the 1 power girl in the field who can summon rain/lacerate/bears?

>>187929349
I try, but Im poor
I do my dailies and will craft the deck next week and hope swim is not faster

>>187929264
i understand axemen didn't use rain in the past because it fucked up the spectral whale but rain has a purpose as the only weather in the game that can hit 5 targets. you could use it with dethmold an a row of arachas for excellent results. now it's just the random version of frost and fog

>>187929349
people do make decks like that. axemen are just not doing well for other reasons

SUMMONING CIRCLE ALSO SUMMONS THE LAST CARD THAT GOT DISCARDED

HOLY SHIT STOP THIS MADNESS

So everyone at CDPR's balancing team just loves playing ST then? Game's more unbalanced than it's ever been.

>>187930573
reddit loves ST and hates monsters*

Apparently there's a hotfix soon?

>Lugos is yet another hard counter to Mill cause he instantly banishes golden avallac'h

yeah this is starting to look like a joke deck desu

>>187927965
I'm having a lot of fun with an SK damage deck but there does seem to be something missing from it and I can't pinpoint what it is.

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>>187929349
working on it

the reason mulligan ST is so strong is because it can shit out 40+ tempo in 2 turns at round 1. then drypass round 2 and go all in round 3. that's really all there is to it

>Triss zaps Farseer
>twice
>it's still sitting on 8 health despite never being boosted once during its stay
>they zap Triss
>Triss hits Farseer for 2
>Its still sitting on 8
hmmm

>>187931672
wow anon, you're a genius!

>>187932632
point is anon, is that the archetype itself is fine. it's just the numbers it has are too high

they can fix it a few minutes by changing the game files but they won't, it's not like they need to reinvent mulligan ST again

Well, Eredin Frost spam is insanely strong. Even the riders are good now.

If you don't hate yourself, do yourself a favor and don't play Mill vs Eredin, they'll just beat you through the power of drawing all their weather effects.

>Some of the spellita net deckers are actually, literally complaining that thunder should be 8
They need to be cleansed from the gene pool.

>https://www.playgwent.com/en/news/7681/the-first-pro-ladder-season-start-date-important-message-from-the-development-team

>Dear Gamers,

>Following the reveal of GWENT Masters at this year’s gamescom, we announced that the first Pro Ladder season will begin September 1st. At the time, that was the plan. However, after careful consideration, we feel we need some extra time before we’re ready to get this show on the road.

>This additional time will allow us to start the Pro Ladder with its rankings immediately reflecting the recently announced change to how your rank will be determined (more information about this is available here), which was previously scheduled to become visible after the season’s start. We also want to follow up the recently released major update with some tweaks to the balance and overall gameplay experience that we feel will go a long way to make sure your initial experience in the Pro Ladder will be a great one.

>As both developers and gamers, delays are not something we’re looking forward to ourselves, but it won’t be long before you start climbing up the ranks of the Pro Ladder. Though we don’t have an exact date for you right now, everything should be up and running in the coming days. When we’re ready, we’ll let you know via the usual channels.

>GWENT Team

TL:DR Yeah we fucked up Mulligan and Unseen Elder is useless as tits on a bull, hotfix coming in a few days

>>187933823
>thunder to kill avallac'h

yeah why not

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This patch has basically removed a mechanic that was specific to Gwent, and a very important one too.
Rows have no meaning now.
If you are playing a buff deck with potions, you don't have to think as you can place your units everywhere most of the time.
If you are playing a weather control deck, you cannot think ahead and prepare some weather for your opponent's cards, as they can go in any other lane.
If you are making a deck with creatures that buff near creatures, no need to think and every single other one is agile.
This is just plain dumb.

>>187930672
>reddit loves ST and hates monsters*
kek
Ever been there?
60% of them play Monsters.
Fuck, you would get downvoted to hell and beyond for suggesting a nerf or change to the harpy.
>>187930121
SC is a joke and either they don't give a shit or they didn't test it

>>187935368
why are talking about such an old patch when another one just released two days ago?

>>187935490
LC discarded an operator'd reaver hunter and his opponent SC'd it, thank god reaver got nerfed before SC got this strong if this was the previous meta

i know it's >r*ddit but it's a good read from a guy who got rank 1 in the world with new mulligan

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwent/comments/6xca46/1_rank_prehotfix_deck_and_a_lot_feedback_on/

tl:dr ST is the most broken a faction has ever been in the history of gwent and Mulligan has close to no definitive counter

>>187936810
hailstorm is pretty good against mulligan

>>187936810
> The deck, while completely broken, is fun to play and wouldn't want it to be nerfed into oblivion even though ST is my least favorable faction

based, mulligan is fun it just needs to be nerfed

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>Rank 14
>Haven't sent a single GG this season

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>>187937296
>Mulligan fag gives me a GG
>I don't
>tfw

If they want to draw so much inspiration from Magic the Gathering, why don't they learn from magic's mistakes and not make spells to be relivable and spammed?

Alzur's Thunder on its own is a perfectly okay card. Being able to revive it? The definition of oppressive to anything with 7 power.

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i wish pretty boy Iorveth would coat me in honey and tie me down on HIS anthill

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this card is so close to being good, why did they have to make it doomed and random?

>>187939131
they should just make it like Mercs and give you the ability to choose

RNG is fucking dumb

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>Kids trying to make Ele'yas work
>They queue into mill
>"Oh shit they keep drawing Ele'yas back into my hand!"
>"It's gonna be huge!"

(some 20 turns later)

>Alright...I have no cards left in my deck, but my Ele'yas is 27 points! This is the biggest Ele'yas I've ever h-

YOU MISTAKE STARS REFLECTED IN A POND FOR THE NIGHT SKY!

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im so lost. i dont know what cards are good anymore. before the patch this keg would have been complete ass but now???

pls help pick

>>187939981
Skjall is best I think. Play him with Morkvarg and Headless guy, he pulls either one or the other

>>187925505
At this point there's only four bronze spell cards, only two of which aren't very situational. Tremors was hardly this big secret until Swim came around - it was pretty much your only option.

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I'm confused. Does this mean that the Round 42 reward tier was the last one I got, or the next one I can get?

baby is mad he getting shit on my scoiatel today boys

>>187940352
you just got it

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lolol

>>187940521
Thanks, time to stop playing.

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>>187937453
>he didn't care
>you acted like a baby
you sure showed him, dumb animeposter

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>round 1
>spellatael netdecker plays Yaevinn
>I am 36 points ahead now + Knight-Elect and Drummer ticks
>pass
>he plays Ithlinne
>nothing happens
>"Well, that was actually rather impressive"
>opponent forfeited
that was REALLY enjoyable

>>187939131
at least 3/4ths of the new cards are random, i don't understand for example why skjall needs to be random what does all this RNG add to the game? absolutely nothing

>>187941003
You don't know what you're talking about

>salty d'hoine not GGing
I don't need your approval, ape-men.

>>187941058
> stennis is random
> skjall is random
> herbalist is random
> drummer is random
> agitator is random
> pyrotechnician is random
> archespore random

no YOU don't know what you are talking about

>Play nothing but mill since patch
>Not ONCE do I get a mirror match, no one else playing this shit
>Somehow everyone knows to kill gold avallac'h

hmm

Last patch it seemed like the matchmaking was skewed TOWARDS giving you mirror matchups, now it feels like it's the opposite.

>>187941518
> mill mirror,whoever got a better hand and better draws during the milling wins,zero strategy

you should be happy

>>187941518
Perhaps the reason nobody plays it is because it is so easily countered

>>187941648
I mean, that's the same with every mirror.

>>187941935
not true

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when will Nilfgaard finally get their best card ?

>>187942059
true

>All the best players who stream are unattractive mouth breathers with autism
>All the best streamers are ok to look at but are bad

>>187942198
mill has almost zero variety/flexibility in it's deck, a mill mirror is a mirror between two deck that are exactly the same. other factions have several ways to build their deck even when it's the same archetype. mill matches are the most predictable shit ever, do you have any idea how many mirror matches i won by bluffing my opponent making him think i have igni ready for him when i didn't? stop playing gwent like a brainless moron

>>187942469
>mill has almost zero variety/flexibility in it's deck

oh you never played mill? why reply then

>>187941486
Yeah, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and your reddit spacing says it all.

>we want to remove big units that people saved up and only play round three, grave hag spotters, captains all of that
>Except protectors lol you think I'll nerf the deck I love most?

>>187944170
captains can reach 30+ value with the right deck

>>187883361
what is the story behind this picture?

>>187909719
I was thinking the same but I haven't crafted any mill deck yet. Do you have a hint?

>>187944369

the first victims of Sam Hyde, who created his bloodlust and primal rage

Is the frightener that monster from the first witcher ?

>two longships + greatsword + hunter + bran + rain + two axemen
I am thoroughly enjoying this. I just passed even though I had like 4 cards left just to see if he could catch me.

>>187946129
*harald, not bran

>>187945860
yes. from the kaer moren tutorial

> swim playing stammelford's again
some of you guys are alright, don't go to ranked play tomorrow

>>187947317
i feel that he's going to utilize how dumb and broken it is until it gets hotfixed

>>187947429
he's the kind of guy who doesn't play broken deck to rise in ranks,he's the kind of person who plays broken decks because he enjoys it. that's so much worse

>>187944170
> Protectors are ~17
> Pirates get to 25

Hmmmm...

>>187948296
> spotters are 17 max if you have a revealed fucking geralt in hand

i can testify it wins you games,but fuck this geralt has no ability

>implying I will ever, ever allow a ST deck to get a win out of me while this shit is still unpatched
lmao

> got meno in a keg 48 hours after i crafted him

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That was actually quite impressive, congratulations. He finish me off with Lacerates and that fucking card who places bombs in your entire row, so his plan was playing Malena plus Marksman and dwarves.

>tfw losing out by 2 points because of a hailstorm
Fuck. I was so close to beating that ST cunt too. Spectral Whale was hitting him for 9 points per turn and boosting my axeman by 9 too, plus Harald's damage plus my ships being boosted. If only my Greatsword didn't have that one extra turn to wait to buff itself.

Must say, I'm not a fan of Trollololo being unkillable.

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>>187951748

Sure, no problem.

>skellige's axemen are utterly useless against NR because of armour
boy, this sure feels fun and balanced

>>187952020
axmen niggers must suffer.

>>187951962
>1 card in the entire game capable of countering a cornerstone of several different NR decks

>>187952164

>What is scorch
>What is Infiltrator + Menno

>>187952306
>Trollolo ever being the highest power card on a board
>needing 2 cards (limited to a single deck) just to deal with 1
lmao

>>187952429

>waahhh why aren't there 10 different ways to instantly counter my opponent's win condition

Eskel is fucking neutral. Tech him into every deck if you're so triggered by that fucking Troll.

>>187952519
>waaaaaaahhhhhh i hate balance i just want my easy NR winnnnnn!!!!

>>187952519
>>187952619
Shut the FUCK up

>>187952619

Nigger I don't even play armor. Trollolo is exactly what a silver should be: very strong but not without counters.

>>187952758
>I'm disabled
You should've just said that to begin with to save us listening to you.

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> fucking summoning circle
unsurprisingly it was a kambigger,revealing my auckes with vattier only to see him kambi revealed was satisfying as fuck,thanks for the free MMR kiddo

Yeah I think I'm done. I forgot why I never got into online card games but now I remember. Netdecking is a cancer and everyone who partakes should be publicly hanged.

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>killing mullniggers with based NG spy deck

wtf how come I only get shitty fucking meteorite powder at level 40?

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>decide to start playing this game
>download and install it
>this appears and it just stands like that, before htat i get some keyboard_something shit

well not that i mind downloading this 200MB piece of shit for 6 minutes, but i wish i didn't sometimes you just get rused.

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>page 9
Now who to blame, you to blame, me to blame
For the pain

>>187956385

Fuck off frogposter.

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>>187956307
this is what i get before that blank screen if anyones wondering.
I actually love CDPR and i loved Witcher, but they should stop embarassing themselves with this piece of shit since they can't even manage to run it.

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>>187956506
Nobody's gonna bump this thread if I'm gone
You need me

>>187956557

Verify game cache.

>warships, mangonels and neophytes targeting random units
>NG enforcer let you snipe your targets
why not make it in line with the rest? either all should be able to target or non

>>187956686

Enforcers being random would make the card unplayable because it would just kill your spies.

>>187956824
It's also uncommon that you will play more than one spy per turn so most of the time enforcers would get less value than a boat

>>187956974
>what is spy-chaining
>embassador into rod tosser

>>187957291
I said most of the time
Emissary is the only card that would really allow it, but SK has multiple cards that discard more than 1 card

>>187957291

>rod tosser

How did you learn about my porn name bro?

>>187956686
Because spies give a small body.

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>go first against mulligan
>they do an 43 tempo in 2 turns

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>Trollolol changed from worst to best silver in the game
what a great timline we live in

>>187959125
Why would Geralt draw the head of the eagle with such accuracy yet draw the wings as three mutated spikes?

It doesn't add up. Whoever designed those pics for W3 should get fired.

>>187959440
>such accuracy
It looks like a chicken that just caught a boot in the balls.

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>>187959534
perfect fit for Redania

> tremortaeligger uses summoning circle to copy my spotter and leach of my revealed geralt in addition to his 3 fukehuge spotters

the new spotter system sucks, especially in reveal mirror it's unplayable garbage and not just because first to place mangonel on the board wins anymore

>>187960338
3 fukehuge protectors*

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>>187960338
You're in a bar and this guy reveals your footsoldiers and scorpions. What do you do?

>>187960646
I pheaphea foaah whooah

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>that one Scoia'tael spell player who thinks I'd GG a netdecker scum like him

>>187962236

Go back to your containment board.

>watching a Henselt player forfeit against you because he had the notion to Raag Nah Roog your board early in r1 only to have it thwarted by row clears
It was quite adorable to watch. He also leader'd his reinforced trebs.

>>187962729
at least once a day I see a Henselt forfeits because he wanted to summon Redanian or Temerian units
its always fun watching them reading their leader-card for half a minute and giving up

>>187962931
i've had 3 people in the last hour resurrecting my dead mangonels, they still think it damages any time a unit is revealed that's so cute

>>187962531
t. netdecker scum with no impressive degrees

Mulligan is so broken atm there's no competition when it comes to pure strength.

>>187964234
NR armor has better strength

>>187964334
Nah they simply win by virtue of being the least interactible faction due to armor, which is ironic seeing what they did to golds

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Am I the only one who finds this artist's art out of place and terrible? Looks too cartoony, as if the Witcher universe was Warcraft, and the pictures lack the details and creativity of other cards, such as the one where Johnny takes a poop.

>>187965305
I like the card very much
especially the moths around the lamp on the moobi card

>>187965305
>>187965421
wait a second. isn't he walking in snow yet there's insects...

>>187965305
johnny is based on witcher 3 while this guy doesn't exist in any witcher game or book as far as i know so they had to imagine him

>want to do my 6 rounds today
>lose 5 times against lightning spamming elves that make literally any skellige strategy impossible
>don't gg a single time

fuck this meta

>>187965597
dorfs dont live in snow
maybe they followed his light out of the cave or dungeon

>>187965785
post deck and we tell you why you fuck up so much

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>>187966008
Sure. Here.
But keep in mind that I'm in the middle of experimenting and I want the meta to settle more before I optimise it.
Yes, then I shouldn't complain, but I went past Rank 20 last time without using Morg or Ignis Gerald, just because I didn't want to use these cards.

Also I seriously can't think of any SK that survives 4+ lightnings each round. Maybe Queensguard but how boring is that again.

I'm sure 35 cards is too much but I'm still trying out synergies.

>>187966518
I just realize I wanted this to have 3 two hander dudes and , but why even they all die after I play them.

>>187966518
Way too many Clear Skies, Berskerkers are not worth it, too many War Criers, Ain Craite Warriors are crap, that axe guy who kills low HP units is not worth it, the gold resser is bad, I can't remember what that 5 str siege silver does but I remember it not being good.

>>187966518
are you afraid of getting milled?