/fog/ - Fallout General

>piper edition
Yuck, Bye nigga

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xth for finding love and happiness in the harsh wasteland!

>>187697612
She has a more masculine jaw than I do.

Haven't seen Trainwiz posting at all last two threads

>>187697842
Is that a good thing or bad thing for you?
>>187698032
The guy doesn't pop up in every single thread

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Post ya characters

>>187698032
>4chan continue to scares away content creators

>>187698143
>tfw can't make any characters in new vegas that don't look like potato faced mutants
Is there a guide for this kind of stuff? the jaw and chin always fuck me up with how angular the former is and how bad the latter looks if you don't leafy it up.

Is piperfags link not in the op anymore? I check it from time to time to look for updates.

>>187698032
You can find the cuckold in the elder scrolls lore threads in /tg/

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>>187698727
With Fo3/NV, the best you can hope for is looking good from the side / front. Since you can't control certain parts of the face in-game, your cheeks / jaw are gonna always be fucky. I always just hit random until I get a general shape I can work with them do it from there.

>>187698727

Honestly I usually stick close to the default face shape and mostly distinguish my character with hair and colour.

Especially in Fallout 4, change the skin tone remove all the blemishes, change the skin texture and add a beard and he looks completely different without even touching the geometry.

>>187699783
>remove all the blemishes
You gotta have blemishes, anon, otherwise it's not

i m m e r s i v e

>>187700094

I really hate that trend in modern gaming.

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>>187699217
Piper faggot was trash and this general is better without any reminders of them. Now if only caitfaggot would die we'd be in a good spot.

>>187699217
So bookmark it. No one wants some fucks waifu garbage in the OP.

>>187699783
>remove blemishes
b-but freckles

>>187700374
The trend of having realistically blemished characters or the trend of NOT having blemished characters?

>>187700664

The former. If I wanted to stare at a blemished face I'd look in the mirror and save 60 bucks.

>>187700383
>>187700569
Piperfag gave lots of time for this general. Least you mongrels could do is show some respect. I don't see either of you creating content for this place.

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>>187700879
What is your definition of creating content?

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>Walking on traintracks heading North
>Stop to eat and drink for a moment
>Notice a raider far out behind a bush
>Take aim
>Shoot him in the back of the head
>Don't see or hear any other raiders coming for me
>Walk to the raider's body to loot it
>Find his body slumped over a grave of his comrade he was just burying

Wow, now I feel like shit.

>>187700879
>Piperfag gave lots of time for this general.
So fucking what. Buff is also here 24/7.

My ideal content creation is posting.

Is there a mod that makes enemies stop instant death takedowns when you're low health in Fallout 4? That shit was the most annoying thing in Skyrim and it pisses me off it is in Fallout 4.

>>187701257
you pushed his body into the grave, right?

>>187701235
He wrote his story for us. That's creating content for our sake.
>>187701270
He posted his story in here for our entertainment.

>>187701438
No, I didn't. That was exactly how he was. I shot him in the back of the head.

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>>187701257
You just murdered a raider who was crying over the grave of the one they loved. You could've just kept walking, they wouldn't have become hostile unless you got close.

>>187701645
so you didn't drop him into there fully?

Well, that separates our behavior then. I'd have dumped him in there anyways. He's not fully in.

>>187701257
Did you at least strip them naked and arrange their bodies in a funny position?

>>187701750

It was a nice looking scene with the body slumped over the grave. I didn't want to ruin it.

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>>187697612
So, did we talk about this decompiled list of upcoming CC mods? Sort of fits in line with what was previously stated, showing the naming structure and how to "identify" the mod authors.
Creation Club Bethesda Game Studio Fallout 4 being ccBGSF04, for example, though it suggests that some of the initial launch may have been early internal develop (whoever ccFSVF refers to).

Besides what's already existing, looks like we're getting a few more Pipboy skins, the Mauler from The Pitt, the Praetor Suit, BFG, and chainsaw from Doom, and then some Decoration pack.

>>187701759
No, I pressed E to pay respects and moved on.

>>187702026
you know that skyrim thing they do where they have all employees do shit for the game for a day?

that's essentially all the CC content right now, until they recruit/ get the recruits form modding community to make shit.

>>187701257
At least that raider isn't sad anymore.

>>187701710
Breach doctrine bitches

>>>/v/388707510
the /v/ threads sure are filled with quality

>>187700383
What about Buffscale

How do you niggers get FO4 to run good?

>>187702626
GTX 1080ti, friend

>>187702673
I have a 1070, fuck you it shouldn't be going at 30 with massive freezing in the cities ON THE LOWEST SETTINGS

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>>187701257
>raider showing humanity
>could possibly be second guessing his life choices
>might have chosen to give up the lifestyle after someone he actually cares about dies
>could have become a farmer or a trader or something
>could have had a knack for something and discovered it
>could have brought beauty into the world

>>187702715
>he fell for the 1070 meme

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>>187702492
Gas him.

>>187702749
Caitfag what happened to piperfag? Your always here.

>>187701257
is there any mod that makes the raider not become hostile when approached? kinda like the mourning giant from skyrim.

>>187702749
>implying the raider didn't actually dig up that freshly buried corpse to loot and grope it

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>>187702421
Wait, there's lewd loli mods? That's some of that dark net shit, I've never even seen young-looking body mods, much less /that/ kinda of thing.

>>187702894
But that would remove, like, 70% of enemies in the game.

>>187702749
>could have gone on a revenge spree and united the raider clans into a raider army to wreak havoc upon on the commonwealth

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>You'll never form a tribal gang of Cazadore hunters that are also Turbo junkies with a belief that constant intake of Turbo will make us time lords

What are your tribal gang ideas?

>>187702715
No that's weird. I got a 970 and it runs fine on 1440p and pretty high settings.
Something's wrong on your side.

>>187702986
>I've never even seen young-looking body mods
Maybe be less of a newfag.

>>187703057
A gang of Jazz Junkies. Smooth talking jazz players with an affinity for trouble,drugs, and playing Jazz

So I'm trying to get it so that I can use the enclave officer uniform with the modular armour, is it as simple as hitting the GECK and checking a box?

>>187703258
The what with the what now?
You mean you want a clothingmod to be underarmor? That simply an issue of setting bodyslots. You can do that in FO4edit.

>>187703007
no, i'm talking about that certain raider who is mourning his loved one. i think it breaks the atmosphere when the raider attacks you.

the mourning giant in skyrim didn't attack you until you attacked him.

>>187703057
One where everyone wears an S&M outfit, they only use an assortment of phallic melee weapons like rubber dildo mace, spiked wooden cocks and while they beat you up with a cock they scream sexual obscenities and bad sexual puns.

>>187703341
Try to find the reference to that specific raider in the GECK , remove him from the Raiderfaction and place him in Settlerfaction or Playerfaction and he wont attack unless agressed.

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>>187702862
I don't know, he used to talk about being busy with work, so maybe something to do with that.

>>187703053
Indeed. Thus is the unpredictable nature of humanity. But to deny the option is unjust. Philip K Dick warns against doing so.

>>187703341
Perhaps it's realistic. Even if you're in the act of mourning, you might still be defensive. Constant vigilance in the wasteland and all that.

>>187703335
Yeah that's the one, cheers

>>187703083
Do you reckon it's because it's pirated? Literally never happened before

>>187702715
It's the god damn shadows. Game renders shadows with one core which totally fucks up the performance in cities.

>>187703528
Any way to fix it? I have them on the lowest setting

>>187703517
Yes anon, you may have downloaded the one torrent that has the anti-piratemeasure that makes Gamebryo run like shit.
It should get fixed by buying two season passes.

>>187703620
Mods + game settings from .ini file

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>>187703660
I-I'M SORRY TODD-KUN I DIDN'T MEAN IT

>>187703517
Do you have V-Sync activated? Is your PC doing some other demanding Tasks in the Background? Do you maybe have a shit CPU?
It could be anything. I'm afraid I can't help you from afar.

>>187703743
I've an i7, vsync off and nothing running

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>>187703410
>no vault where the experiment was an s/m society
>a completely devoted workforce who enjoy their work in more ways than one and are enthusiastic overseen by attentive and strict administrators
The vault would be spotless and would be the most efficiently run institution before or after the war.

>>187703057
An 1860's style united states immigrant group. They're from ireland, italy, england, etc and have internal conflicts and factions that you can mediate or join or ignore or slaughter all or etc. Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York style.

A group of people who find old Madi Gras holovid recordings and think that's just how some people were all the time, so adopt the attitude and aesthetic.

Same for voodoo with a Baron Samedi npc.
Same for football hooligans.

The Atom Cats are something that I wanted.

>>187703796
Is it a fallout 4 specific problem? Did you mess with the game (ini edits and Mods)? Which resolution are you running on?
It may be the fact that you pirated it, but I know nothing about that.

>>187704158
>Is it a fallout 4 specific problem?
yes
> Did you mess with the game (ini edits and Mods)?
Lowered shadows, haven't tried any mods
>Which resolution are you running on?
1920x1080

Idk what kind of magic dust my PC runs on but i get silky smooth 40FPS without stutter in the worst part of city with high textures and Texture Optimization Project and Shadowboost with a smelly old RX460.

Speaking of perfomance, has someone made a mod yet that removes all the kelp and trash under water which gets rendered all the time even though we never see it?

>>187703517

Fuck no. I run a 970 with a pirated fo4 (and thank fuck I do after the CC fiasco) butter smooth. As said, drop shadow quality, that's what messes it up.

>>187702894
God, if you could change it so EVERY raider tries to shake you down first, that would be amazing

>>187705327
Didn't you listen to them in Skyrim?
You'll be so much easier to rob when you're dead.

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REMINDER
THIS IS NOW OUR PATH

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>>187698143

This is why i never liked script extenders. They come out and then all the mods that dont really need them start becoming dependent on them, and before you know it you need them for very basic functionality, and then they break and everything's ruined. Why the fuck do i need a script extender for an armor mod? Why do i need an armor station mod for an armor mod? Just put it in a fucking crate in sanctuary or something.

>>187702986
>society is progressing in such a way that loli becomes more and more restricted and greed becomes more and more prevalent

Surely a mere coincidence

>>187706894
the issue isn't the script extender, it's the people who make mods with it.

They insist on making snowflakes, just to show off. There's barely any useful mods for fallout 4 that use F4SE, only bloatware mods that do it as side-features to mask their project being terrible in the first place.

>>187706894
People are sick and tired of filling their games with crates or shoveling everything into the Chem station. Like, have you ever seen the Steel category in Skyrim after some modding? It's fucking insane.

Way back when Bethesda said FO4 would only be getting a year of support before they moved on, no one knew at the time they'd be doing paid mods and updating further.

>>187707165
>They insist on making snowflakes, just to show off.
>Simple workbench for modded armors and clothes
>Another for modded weapons
>Keeps the vanilla crafting stations clean
2/10

Im clean reinstalling and im playing with minimal mods.

Does the unofficial patch still work ok?

>>187707447
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6091/?

doesn't use F4SE

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2228/?

doesn't use F4SE


1/10

>>187706894
>>187707165

>Todd and Pete visit /fog/

Script extender wouldn't even be needed in the first place if the game had something more than basic scripting capabilities already.

>>187706894
I'm running FO4 with 130 mods and no script extender. For New Vegas is mandatory though.

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>framework that expands keywords, encounter zone functions, keymapping and actorvalues, all essential for literally any crafting, settlement and "overhauls"
>WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT REEEEE

You guys really don't know what you're talking about tbqh
You're mad because you're a bunch of dumb goys who bought the game and allowed Steam to download files without permission and now berhippo is suddenly to blame.

>>187707810
>bought the game
I just like complaining with others.

>>187707810
Basically. Just dumb, angry neets upset they can't jack off to their waifu.

>>187707447


http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12631/?

Uses F4SE

what does it do?

It enables waifufag mods


Guess what other mods uses F4SE?

Sexmods


Literally only waifufags that should end it, need F4SE.

AKA. SNOWFLAKE-MODS

>>187707694
Why would they need F4SE? Holy shit get some reading comprehension. 0/10 for wasting my time.

>>187708031
0/10

Place anywhere is pretty fucking good, doesn't that apprently need script extender?

>>187708031
At least read up on all the things F4SE adds and allows before sperging out so you look sligthly less retarded m8

http://f4se.silverlock.org/f4se_0_04_02_whatsnew.txt

>>187707978
Jokes on you i was planning to uninstall forplay anyway

>rape male raider with mai waifu
>animation has him agressively raping me instead

Misogyny

>>187708106
Yes, it's so everything doesn't drop on the floor along with allowing you to setscale or flip it around and do whatever.

>>187707694
>>187708031

Why yes, I am a picky customer. Give me the best and only the best cherries you have.

>>187708105
>They insist on making snowflakes, just to show off.
>Simple workbench for modded armors and clothes
>Another for modded weapons
>Keeps the vanilla crafting stations clean

you literally just described the mods in

>>187707694

and they don't use F4SE, the ultimate truth here is, only cheat mods use F4SE, sexmods and waifu mods.

>>187708159
I know what the script extender does you retard, it allows you to load external libraries and files that otherwise isn't accepted by papyrus.

i.e. you can cram scriptfunctions into a .dll and the script extender will load it.

I've made scriptextender mods for skyrim nigga, autoloot shit.

>>187708175
>force to penetrate isn't rape
Triggered.

>>187708031
mai waifu is just
CBBE
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4883/?
and the dependant hair style
no looksmenu required

Gotta keep it simple

>>187708272
I wasn't arguing the use of F4SE, I was arguing that people wanted a place for modded weapons and armor that wasn't all thrown in the fucking chem station because that shit is annoying when ti clogs up vanilla crafting stations.

>Implying you've made anything for skyrim

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>>187708272
>a scriptextender is only usefull for cheatmods and waifushit
>i made a scriptextender mod for skyrim that was neither

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>>187708438
4u, sure.

point was, this only directly affects the snowflake waifufags and the sexmod addicts. The people who actually *need* the script extender to load and call for functions only the script extender adds.


Useful things F4SE can do right now that is outside of snowflake catagory:

enable achivements in modded games
change survival mode settings (u can do that without F4Se too)
remove settlement caps
hotkey functionality


i can't think of anything else that isn't snowflake tier / edge tier like

>>187708546
>>187708717


autolooter technically cheat-ish, it makes things like alchemy way too productive

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>tfw the FO4 modding community is so shit they cant make guns that arent just copied from real life

>>187708814
Shut up, slut.

>>187708814
Give an example for a not RL gun you'd like to see.

>>187708802
>can no longer pass persuasion checks with sex
>must raise charisma

i cant handle it anon

>>187708802
>enable achivements in modded games
>change survival mode settings (u can do that without F4Se too)
>remove settlement caps
>hotkey functionality
I have all this whitout F4SE.

>>187708931
>not plastering CHA-enchanted bodypiercings on every bodyslot until you reach 30 CHA

>>187708973
yes, that's my point tho m8, you don't *need* F4SE for anything but retarded snowflake mega-titty waifu mods

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>No one does anything creative just more and more tacticool or murderhobo

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>not playing your rootin' shootin' lootin' waifusimulator as a mage-titty waifu
What's even the point of playing FO4 then

>>187709025
But anon already pointed out you don't need it for that either >>187708438

Or does it magically not count when it goes against your narrative

>>187709043
Nobody needs another Alien Blaster in Fallout m8

>>187709123
no, my point is F4SE isn't needed at all. His snowflake mod is just the vanilla shit, but that's now snowflake that's just customizing your Nora.

the snowflakes are the people who uses things like demonic horsecocks that can animate itself into errect position while fucking other people in the ass

>>187709105
Not being a degenerate

i want a dildo gun that shoots homing rape projectiles and pacifies targets with mindbreak
i bet i need F4SE for that

>>187709105
To exact my revenge on the society that rejected me.

>>187709243
>playing FO4 for the ""story"""" and ((((hundreds hours of gameplay)))
No anon, you were the degenerate all along.

>>187709383
>Implying there is nothing between just the vanilla story and being a big tit wiafu simulator

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>>187709186
You think you don't need it because the Sci-Fi aspect of the games are completely ignored by the mod community. It's easy to rationalize the issue by saying it's not needed.

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>>187709491
>i play Fallout 4 for the engaging sidequests and settlement mechanics

>>187709123

Yes, and he also "missed" the post mentioning Place Anywhere which requires SE. So yeah, if it doesn't fit his narrative it doesn't count

>>187709647
>Needing to straw man this hard

>>187709724
place anywhere is pointless unless you want to snowflake settlements.


i just make a commieblock for beds, enough food and water, enough defense number to keep raiders away and never revisit

you don't *need* Place Anywhere

>>187709951
It's nice that you do the bare minimum but others actually want to do more while fleshing out the feature with mods. Nice anecdote but 2/10.

>>187709951
I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

>>187709951
No, you don't *need* anything. Not a single mod.
Might as well end this general right here while were at it too because nobody *needs* it either.

>>187710071
if you named sim settlements i would have taken you more seriously, you opted for snowflake faggotry

>>187709383
>>187709647
>if I put enough sarcasm, brackets and quotation marks around gameplay mechanics then my degeneracy is justified!
kill yourself.

>>187710284
what did he mean by this?

>>187710264
If I named Sim Settlements you would've made the same comments but swapped it with place anywhere. You're just here to shitpost.

>>187709951
>i just make a commieblock for beds, enough food and water, enough defense number to keep raiders away and never revisit
Then why bother making it in the first place? It's not like settlements even do anything to begin with.

>>187709951
Since when was snowflake a verb?

Fuck off.

>>187710284
Watch out guys!

>>187710345
so that i can assign provisioners with power armors roaming around with explosive machine guns

>>187709951
mods are pointless unless you want to snowflake game.


i just play Fallout 4™ with everything Bethesda® Softworks included.

you don't *need* mods

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>wake up
>it still wants to download and store shit on my disk I won't be even able to access
>I will have to update if I'm ever going to reinstall and play F4 in the future
Looks like this is the last time I'm playing this game.

>>187710345
Not him, and while I generally find the arguments of the guy you are debating with to be shit, by this logic, why bother making such advanced settlements when NPCs never can, or will, use them?

Even with mods, settlements don't fucking do anything besides serve as mini-bases to rest for survival mode, or nearby places for you to craft shit.

>>187710443
You don't *need* that.

>>187710395
it's an adjective. Nice fuckup, nerd.

>>187710264
Your bait isn't too bad, you got a few good replies there

>>187710505
>I won't be even able to access
Just download the .esls the buyfags shared in the previous thread and all CC mods are yours.

I feel bad for the Road to Liberty guys, they put in a lot of hard work on their Hellfire Armor and Chinese Stealth suit for free and Bethesda shits out a much lower quality version to be paid for.
And Payton is on twitter shilling for Bethesda and Creation Club despite not being a part of it lmao. If anybody deserves to get paid for making power armor mods it's probably him and Unoctium though.

>>187710637
But I'm not interested in notLaserMusket.

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>>187710612
it's my *OPINION*, doesn't necessarily means it's bait.

I'm entitled to have opinions of things as I see fit.

>>187710545
>reading comprehension

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>snowflake
>look at this snowflake shitface
>god I hate fucking snowflakes
>only snowflake retards like this
>snowflake
>snowflake
>fucking snowflake

Is there something you want to tell us anon?

>>187710886
Wow, I haven't seen that in years.

>>187710886
>PANCAKE DEFENSE FORCE
That one always cracks me up. I don't even like pancakes since waffles exist.

>>187710506
>why bother making such advanced settlements when NPCs never can, or will, use them?
Because they're nice to look at and you can think 'I made this myself'. Building the bare minimum and then never even going back to the settlement is utterly pointless, you might as well not do it at all.

>>187711035
>choosing waffles over pancakes
Get a load of this faggot.

I haven't played fo4 in a while and didn't keep up with the news, whats with all the shitposting in this thread? Is bethesda killing mods?

>>187710494
games are pointless unless you want to snowflake hard disk drive

I just have everything that came with Windows XP by default

you don't *need* games

>>187711081
>Because they're nice to look at
To be most, most of those elaborate player made settlements are fuck ugly and have design problems them most vanilla settlements do.

If anything, the only settlement mods I would like getting are ones that disable like half the shit in the vanilla +DLC settlement menu for how obviously it doesn't belong.

>Building the bare minimum and then never even going back to the settlement is utterly pointless
I would agree not ever going back would be pointless, but I personally do use them as minor bases to resupply and rest since I don't fast travel ever.

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>>187711216
Waifufags on suicide watch since FO4 updated and broke script extender

>>187711216
Trying.

>>187711216
>Is Bethesda killing mods
yes

>>187711216
> Is bethesda killing mods?
Nope, just a few people buttmad that Bethesda made a 100% optional paid mod service they aren't forced to use.

>>187711216
Bethesda released the creation club yesterday forcing 2gb of useless assets onto everyone. They also updated the game which means F4SE needs to be updated, so all mods that require that are now broken.

It's all just so incredibly unnecessary and the initial lineup of paid mods is just not worth the hassle caused. It's insulting.

>>187711301
>that bulge between her legs

>>187711301
>script extender
oh, and what about the f4se devs? are they going to fix it?

>>187711435
the only guy in the F4SE team that can fix it, is too busy. He hasn't done the SKSE64 yet either.

>>187711216
>Is bethesda killing mods?

Yup, paid mods v2.0. I even have them a chance and took a wait and see approach, but it's shit. Literally horse armor mods at horse armor prices.
Plus as you can see from the latest posts, the newest update killed F4SE

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>be a waifufag
>be a piratefag
>free to enjoy my awkwardly animated humping mods and mega tities for the low low price of zero shekels
Eventually i'll get tired of winning all the time.

>>187710790
Do you want to reconsider how you voice it then?
Because the amount of times you've wheeled out "snowflake" as your atomic fucking banter bomb is starting to get a bit worrying

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mfw people are using my opinions and antics to shitpost

>>187711627
^This

I'm
>>187711276
And am generally against most mods since they are ass for one reason or another, but using the word "snowflake" a million times over just makes your arguments look retarded.

so wait, do they really install all the content with the update and you just pay for the .esm to add it in game? holy christ this gets better and better, thank god I stopped the download in time

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>>187709951
>STOP HAVING FUN

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>I-I have to help the general!!!

Following the army of Securitron's victory at Hoover Dam and the ensuing independence of New Vegas, chaos ruled the Mojave. The Old Mormon Fort struggled to provide basic service to its patients, many of them dying from untreated wounds due to the lack of supplies.

A member of the Followers of the Apocalypse, Elizabeth joined Julie Farkas and the others in providing medical assistance at the Fort. With the help of Jerry the Punk and using her reputation to her advantage, she convinced the Great Khans to lend a hand at this time of need. Using their medical knowledge for the good of mankind, the Khans established a long lasting relationship with the Followers, helping Freeside become a better place.

>>187711876
Yes

>>187711410

M O N S P U B I S

>>187711992
I'm glad she's dead. I really am.

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>>187712007
there is no way they could have fucked this up harder if they tried

have we figured out how to pirate the CC mods yet

i dont even want any of them i just want to make sure we give a great big middle finger to beth and their jew shit, and ensure ill be able to access all future mod content as freely as i do now

>>187712112
according to /v/ you need the .esl and .manifest files


i already dumped the .esl's in previous thread. Nobody asked for anything else, so I assumed that was enough

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>>187711410
You're just gay

>>187711992
This is better than the CC shitposting solely by the fact it's not CC shitposting.

You should still fuck off though.

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>>187712178
Manifest file is just a list of shit you (((own))) with a version checker

Do you think Big MT. can create an ARCHIMEDES III that can fire between dimensions, and can hit Bethesda's main office?

>>187712556
Hopefully only after they've made TESVI so I can finally dump Garbageout4

>>187712202
Thanks, dad.

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>>187712556
I should ask.

>>187712664
Do you want TES to be infected by this Club cancer? Because it will.

>>187712874
Not him, but I give zero shits either way

t. snowflake

>>187713751
>snowflake
Only snowflakes use this meme buzzword

>>187713818
takes one to know one

>>187698291
>Trainshill
>Wanting him around
Fuck off Pete

>>187708921
I imagine they are asking for original content.

this thread snowballed very hard.

>>187714482
That's what happens when you have a lot of snowflakes bunch up

>>187714140
>not wanting more content creators

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>>187714564

>>187714660
Not if they come around defending paid mods no. He could have avoided all of it but his ego is too big so he had to argue that his decision was a great idea because it would all be different this time around. He dug his own grave, also stop acting like he gives a fuck about any one other than him and getting his mods into lore. He's said it multiple times and only keeps doing it to stay relevant

>>187715004
it's hip and trendy to hate on paid mods.

You're doing it just because "everyone" is doing it.

I for one bought ToddBux™ and support the (((Modding Community)), which so far has just been bethesda employees.

>>187715004
>Not if
Nah, fuck off.

>>187712556
>Christine, Ulysses and Elijah had a nightmare of a time during their visit to Big MT
>To Courier, it was just an interesting Tuesday

I find this fact much funnier than the whole DLC's attempts at humor.

>That feeling when you don't care about mods either way so seeing people shit over each other over paid mods is fun because both sides look like idiots

>>187714660
>muh content
>we need every shitposter at our disposal for their precious content, regardless of the harm they do to the general as a whole

Thank Christ for content, how could we survive without content.

I love you trainwiz, and you too caitfag! let's not forget piperfag and that shithead with his Elizabeth OC!

>>187714660

We do want content creators, it's Trainwiz specifically people are disappointed in. Yes, there are a couple retards with pitchforks in hand because
>muh trainwiz betrayed us for bethesda
yeah, but most got triggered because of how he acted following that, not because he got hired by Beth, as soon as we knew he got into the CC, Trainwiz (assuming it was even him, and not some retard impersonating him) started behaving like a Bethesda Marketing Employee. I mean yes, he's under nda and can't disclose what he's working on, but go straight to the point. "Yeah I'm working on something, can't say what it is though" would suffice. Instead, going in a song and dance of
>the mods will be better
>you'll love the CC
is marketing talk, and we despise marketing talk.

>>187698291
>>187715460
The idea of content on an anonymous imageboard really irks me. People should do and post whatever the fuck they want but don't try to demand head pats for doing it. The idea that 'content creators' aren't welcome here is ridiculous and the only reason they get scared away is because they don't get the attention they hoped for.

>>187715917
>and the only reason they get scared away is because they don't get the attention they hoped for.
They fucked off from the incessant shitposting after the FO4 announcement actually. Place became a hive of /v/ermin that wouldn't leave and constantly shitposted 24/7.

>>187715806
>people tell him they don't trust beth QA
>wow you're retarded they're going through my mod and giving me notes and shiet are you saying they aren't and calling me a liar?
>trainwiz defense force (possibly just him without his name on) echo this
>first wave of mods come out and they cock up something as simple as a single power armor and rifle
>i-it's beta guys buy my mod so it'll be canon please, dude trains lmao
yeah wonder why he's not popular

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The glowing sea is too fucking cool for this game. Especially now that I'm going through it on survival with a mod that makes radiation so high I still get a constant 4 rads even in full lead plated x-01 PA.
The atmosphere is great, with all the shit tons of high level enemies and the military caches and ruins.
It would have been so much better if all the good high-end loot and weapons were tucked away in this place, kind of like how it was done in 1 and 2, with all the good shit in secret military bases.
But bethesda just fucks it up by making the glowing sea utterly pointless except for one part of the main quest, and even for that they give a goddamn quest marker ,making exploration completely unnecessary

>that kino as fuck moment when you're just getting in and you see the buried military cache with the flag still standing high
what a fucking waste

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>>187711876
I was initially excited for significant content updates like voiced companions and areas, but now I realize this will just keep making the game more and more bloated even if I decide not to buy each one. I mean 2gb is gigantic for what little they supplied with this update. How big is the next update gonna be?

>>187716357
I don't get why he couldn't have just shut the fuck up about it. I can understand him wanting to push his mod but he goes above and beyond to the point where he becomes a literal shill by definition.

>>187716414
>It would have been so much better if all the good high-end loot and weapons were tucked away in this place, kind of like how it was done in 1 and 2, with all the good shit in secret military bases.
That would be retarded, why would all these weapons be there if it was so heavily irradiated that no one could go there?

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>>187716480
>next update

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>>187716414
>>that kino

>>187716414
>fight legendary glowing charred savage albino alphamale deathclaw
>get raider left leg of -5% damage if you stand perfectly still
>get to the building it was guarding
>pipe revolver and some .38 ammo
>all because they're too lazy to make multiple leveled lists for loot
I set up a little FOB at somerville with a power armor launch hangar and mortars and shit, used it twice and realised I've seen all the sea had to offer

>>187716686
>all because they're too lazy to make multiple leveled lists for loot
Actually, every game since Morrowind has had multiple loot lists depending on the kind of chest/crate it is.

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>>187716763
that just makes it worse

>>187716291
By shitposting do you mean discussion and (albeit heated) debate about the actual games?

>>187716598
They could've had some good pre-war armor and weaponry there. Stuff that would make sense not having been touched for 200 years.

>>187716598
I'm not supporting his idea from a gameplay perspective, but that actually makes sense. Most the good shit was made before the war. The glowing sea is probably one of the least looted areas post war, so there's a good chance the military establishments there still have good tech to loot.

>>187716873
Na, your just buttmad that they aren't following some shitty D&D stereotype of
>best loot is always behind boss monster!

>>187716889
>By shitposting do you mean discussion
If you mean 3 fucking threads back to back reeeeeing about someone's waifu and their purple hair then reeeeing about any female character posted being heated discussion then sure.

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>>187716598
I couldn't have said it better myself

>>187716910
>They could've had some good pre-war armor and weaponry there.
You mean the same shit people have been scaving from all the other military bases in the area for the last 200 years?

There is nothing n the glowing sea that shouldn't be able to be found elsewhere.

>>187717154
Then they should have put something big there, an actual reason for it to be a massive shithole, like how the Glow was the west-tek facility.

>>187717154
Yes but they could've made it so you could find some good stuff there, y'know, during game development?

Use your imagination, I know you have one.

>>187716915
Actually it makes more sense that there would be less there because anything of value would have likely been completely obliterated by the nuclear blast, or buried so deep you would never be able to get it.

Whereas in places that didn't get directly nuked, shit has a much higher chance of surviving.

>>187717047
this is just a sad display, if you're gonna bait you don't just act like a retard and get a stiffy when people call you retarded, you gotta be clever and actually piss people off

>>187716910
>They could've had some good pre-war armor and weaponry there.
FUCKING E V E R Y T H I N G IS PREWAR IN THIS GAME

>>187717047
The point is a crate in the middle of nowhere will have the same contents as the same crate in a military base. That's fucking dumb.

>>187717278
There was a reason why it was a shithole.

the area was hit by one of the few megaton+ sized bombs left in the world nuclear arsenal, and it also hit near a nuclear power planet which has spent the last 200 years leaking out into the area

>>187717348
pipe guns
prewar
jet
prewar
ghouls
prewar
main character
prewar

>>187717392
Both of them contain things that would logically be found in the possession of those people.

I don't know if you have gotten out in the world to know this, but the world doesn't split their possessions up into specific crates where only one thing, or one kind of thing, can be put in there.

Most people just put whatever shit they have into whatever box they can find.

>>187717348
and not all of it is good

>>187717487
>pipe guns
>prewar
Like real life

>jet
>prewar
As stated in Fallout 2

>ghouls
>prewar
Something we have known about since Fallout 3.

>main character
>prewar
This is the only real first.

>>187717570
>but the world doesn't split their possessions up into specific crates where only one thing, or one kind of thing, can be put in there.
C'mon now. Some people have personal safes for the really valuable stuff.

why are people giving the ebin devil's advocate shitposter the time of day, you'd have to be 8 layers of retarded to not understand why getting a pipe pistol from the glowing sea is dumb from a setting and gameplay perspective

>>187717570
I don't think most normal people have frag grenades in their possession.
.
Why the fuck are there so many frag grenades around anyway? Is someone still making them? That seems like the only possible explanation, no way they're all still from pre-war times.

>>187717693
And some people put really trivial shit in their personal safes either because it has sentimental value, or they are just weird collectors of shit.

The level of container, nor the difficulty of the lock, have any real relation to the value of the things inside.

>>187717689
>As stated in Fallout 2
yeah, myron isn't that old
>inb4 the one npc conversation confirmed to be a writing mistake

>>187717894
the problem is that a safe in a bank or a safe in a military base will also have a pipe gun in it

>>187717934
>yeah, myron isn't that old
Myron specifically stated that Jet is the result of pre-war companies feeding their cows a contaminated protein extract that caused their shit to become an super potent drug.

Everything about jet is pre-war, Myron only states he found a way to harness it post war.

>People still get mad about jet being pre-war when it's just a shit reference to a mild 90's soccermom scare

>>187718093
go away pete

>>187717894

>And some people put really trivial shit in their personal safes either because it has sentimental value, or they are just weird collectors of shit.

Yes, it is a shame the trivial shit we see in Beth's Fallout games is literally THE SAME TRIVIAL SHIT FOUND EVERYWHERE IN THE GAME.

We don't find a family portrait. We don't find a baby's first hairs. We don't find a child's first fallen tooth. We don't find a collection of stamps.

We find the same shit we find everywhere in the wasteland, so "sentimental value" means nothing because the generic loot in Bethesda games is GENERIC.

>>187718071
And?

You are aware there was this thing called the resource wars, that drained all of the worlds resources to the point everything because stupidly expensive?

Not to mention there was such massive rioting and civil unrest caused every major American city to be placed under martial law, with combat and power armor national guard guards shooting people indiscriminately.

Most people would not have been able to afford an actual gun, meaning they would had to resort to pipe weapons. And with martial law, and all the rioting, the military ad local police would have been confiscating pipe weapons in large numbers as they put down the civilian populace.

What you just said literally amounts to
>the spawn lists actually reflect the lore and setting of the game

>>187718076
>Myron only states he found a way to harness it post war.
yes, that would be "jet," without his refining process it's "cow shit"

>>187718160
Go away Black Isle. You fucked and someone else set it right. It is in no way a big deal and the pearl clutching over it is completely stupid and shows how little an effect Bethesda has had on Fallout as a series.

>>187718236
>
We don't find a family portrait. We don't find a baby's first hairs. We don't find a child's first fallen tooth. We don't find a collection of stamps.
We find generic versions of many of those same kind of items in safes all over the game anon.

What are you talking about?

>>187718279
You can't seriously be saying the military was using fucking pipe weapons.
And why would the public store their own weapons in fucking BANKS

>>187718491
>You can't seriously be saying the military was using fucking pipe weapons.
No, which is why I didn't.... are you dyslexic anon? I point blank said they confiscated them from the public.

>And why would the public store their own weapons in fucking BANKS
Because people knew shit was going to go down, and its a good idea to have a weapon stashed in something like a safety deposit box in case shit does go down, and the military has already confiscated most weapons, meaning YOU will still have a gun while others do not.

>>187718389

>What are you talking about?

About the really trivial shit people put in their personal safes either because it has sentimental value, or they are just weird collectors of shit.

A lot of homes in Fallout have no identity to them because they are full of generic loot. Even the ones that have some slight personality to them (take the house with the robot in Nipton) are still variations on a same generic "mechanic's house" trope.

>>187718714
>A lot of homes in Fallout have no identity to them because they are full of generic loot.
Why else would they have anything but generic loot?

Are you actually so stupid to be suggestign that Bethesda should have created thousands of unique junk items just because a handful of autists can't grasp basic concepts like sentimental value object unless its shoved in their face?

>>187718664
>No, which is why I didn't.... are you dyslexic anon? I point blank said they confiscated them from the public.
Then why are there pipe weapons in ancient untouched military bases?

>>187718861
>Then why are there pipe weapons in ancient untouched military bases?
Because the military confiscated them from the locals....

Like I said twice already...

I'm really starting to thing you have a mild form of dyslexia or something.

>>187718843

No, I'm suggesting that being okay with random crap stuck in a safe is fucking stupid because "le sentimental value" falls apart the moment it's the same loot we see everywhere in the rest of the game.

It's shit loot, accept it, and the player souldn't be satisfied for whatever Bethesda tried to convey.

I gotta ask, what drives people to this style of shitposting "debate" where they argue for things so blatantly wrong it's not even funny? like "end game area should have good loot" until they obfuscate it into this mess

>>187719002
> because "le sentimental value" falls apart the moment it's the same loot we see everywhere in the rest of the game.
Again, why would it look any different to us?

The whole point of sentimental value is that the object is ordinary to anyone but the person who has the sentimental value to it!

>>187718958
So the military confiscates pipe weapons and stores them unanimously alongside their own ammo and other weapons? That's great.

Also, why the fuck would banks be letting people store away their illegal weapons?

I'm starting to think these opinions all belong to the same anons:

- FO3 and FO4 have better writing than FNV.
- The Institute makes perfect sense.
- Pipe weapons in old safes are perfectly okay.
- End game areas can do with crap loot.

And I know I'm missing another key opinion, but it just slipped away from me.

>>187719070
>like "end game area should have good loot"
DESU, the whole concept of an "end game area" shouldn't be a thing outside of a linear RPG, or an MMORPG.

>>187719270
But Fallout 4 does have a sort of linear progression, with southern areas being much tougher than areas in the north, especially with the case of the glowing sea.

>>187719172
>Also, why the fuck would banks be letting people store away their illegal weapons?
Are you even trying at this point?

Have you not payed attention to literally any other part of the Fallout world where every single company on the face of the planet was doing ultra shady shit?

>>187719147

>Again, why would it look any different to us?

gee, I don't know

perhaps because when something is stored in a safe because of sentimental value it is clearly different to the shit you see every single day?

To put it bluntly: imagine finding a bottle of Coca-Cola in a safe. Not just any bottle of Coca-Cola. The exact same Coca-Cola you can find on your nearest market today.

What sentimental value can it have? Just admit Bethesda filled safes and boxes with generic loot as opposed to going for the "sentimental value" crap.

>>187719379
While true, there is no such thing as an "end game" area since the whole game level scales with you.

>>187719270
why in the world shouldn't it?

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>the update added an attach slot to the pipboy entry in the Fallout 4 esm, to make the new CC skins compatible
>nothing preventing it from showing up in the armor workbench if you don't shell out for bethbucks or pirate it
>have to fix it yourself

good quality control as always.

>>187719380
Most of that shady shit is done in favor of the government, rarely against it. Banks are pretty pro-government, even in the Fallout universe I would assume. This excuse falls flat.

>>187719450
>coca-cola

>>187719270

You are not wrong, but you aren't right either.

Linearity is justified because it implies "linear progression". But at the same time, suppose my RPG ends in a waste disposal area. Why should there be extremely good equipment there to find, other than to follow gaming conventions?

The point is that certain areas should have equipment fitting to them. I don't expect Shady Sands to have a lot of awesome weapons, but I do expect a heavily irradiated military base to have them.

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>Oh boy what is M150 up to today

>>187719592
>guaranteed compatible with the base game
>they cock even that up
why didn't they like test this stuff out before forcing it down everyone's throats?

>>187719521
Because that isn't realistic?

There is nothing arbitrarily more difficult about walking in the wilderness then there is in the city or vice versa.

"End game" areas are a holdover from the days of more linear RPGs like Baldur's Gate, where you only progressed to certain areas in a certain order, and thus, everything i nthe next map had to be stronger then everything in the previous map, because you got stronger by doing the previous map.

That isn't how it works in an open world RPG.

Crabs shouldn't be more powerful in one area of the map then they are in another, its a fucking crab either way.

I mean, the whole idea of hiding your Pipe Guns IN A FUCKING SAFE is ridiculous.

You should keep that shit close to you at all times if things are going so badly. Hide it in a box behind your closet if anything, not in a damn safe.

>>187719648

Yeah, that wasn't a mistake. I was giving a real life example to illustrate my point: no one keeps extremely generic items in safes, precisely because the concept of "generic item" doesn't exist in real life.

In a videogame, nothing distinguishes this particular Nuka-Cola bottle from another Nuka-Coca bottle, and swinging the "sentimental value" argument around is a good reason for Bethesda to stop caring about good loot altogether.

>>187719731
>The point is that certain areas should have equipment fitting to them. I don't expect Shady Sands to have a lot of awesome weapons, but I do expect a heavily irradiated military base to have them.
You would think the opposite really because Shady has the connection to the larger world, which would allow them to have access to many weapons and armor scavenged in military bases across California, while the chance of any one military base having a huge cache of highly advanced weapons/armor is actually pretty low.

>>187719852
>There is nothing arbitrarily more difficult about walking in the wilderness then there is in the city or vice versa.
This comment was made by a retarded city boy.

>>187719852
>there aren't more dangerous things in one area than there are in others
are you retarded or just really sheltered?
>muh realizm
if it's bad for game design who cares

>>187719852

>That isn't how it works in an open world RPG.

Bethesda doesn't seem to think that.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveling

>Various aspects of the game are leveled. This means that as your character increases in level, some enemies become more challenging, but also the quality of the items you find becomes better.

>>187719852
>Crabs shouldn't be more powerful in one area of the map then they are in another, its a fucking crab either way
You could use that same logic to say a crab should not be powerful at one level than another, but that exact thing happens.

Also one area could have super mutants while another just has normal ass raiders, but in this shitty game super mutants are pretty much just green big raiders.

>>187720000
I actually live in the hill country, and have so my entire life.

Unless you are completely retarded, there is no real difficulty in walking around

>>187720000
quadestruction
also even if he is a city boi
>suburbs and ghetto are the exact same, there is nothing more dangerous in one area than the other

>>187719837
Because it's Bethesda QA and they can't be expected to catch everything :^)

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>>187719837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qs3VqaXNpQ

they're doing their best to piss everyone off.

>>187719998

>You would think the opposite really because Shady has the connection to the larger world

No. Why would I think that? What has Shady Sands to trade in favor of highly advanced military equipment?

The one place that would make sense for them to have it already does: The Hub.

>while the chance of any one military base having a huge cache of highly advanced weapons/armor is actually pretty low.

Not when it is so irradiated no one has ever gone down there. Especially when it is primary research facility for the government's biggest private contractor.

>>187719761
I fucking love that Nip.

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>>187719380
>>187719648
>tfw shitposter-kun hasn't responded to my reverse shitpost yet
Sad!

>>187719971
>I mean, the whole idea of hiding your Pipe Guns IN A FUCKING SAFE is ridiculous.
Keeps guns out of the hands of kids at least.

>>187720096
>Also one area could have super mutants while another just has normal ass raiders
True, but super mutants do not congregate around intrinsically better loot.

They tend to congrigate around radioactive areas, which are areas people don't tend to go, which in turn means super mutant camps should honestly have some of the worst loot offerings ever.

On the other hand, the significantly weaker raiders make their living by stealing everything of value they can from everyone around them, which suggests that they should have some of the better loot in the game.


>but in this shitty game super mutants are pretty much just green big raiders.
You mean like how they should be? and were in Fallout 1 because Fallout 2 turned them into ghouls 2.0, where all physical differences meant nothing?

>>187720124

Try going to Africa's savannas and tell me it's just as easy than walking around New York, faggot.

I'm so close to finding that final argument I can feel it.

>>187720306
i think you're mistaken. There's several posters that are doing it, not just one.

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>>187720184
look at all that compatibility they promised
>not even conflicting with a mod, just self destructing in the presence of ANY mod being so much as enabled

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>>187719761
>>187720298
In this dark time he's the hero we need right now

>>187720279
>No. Why would I think that? What has Shady Sands to trade in favor of highly advanced military equipment?
Safety from the harsh wastes? You know, the most valuable commodity there is?

>. Especially when it is primary research facility for the government's biggest private contractor.
Sure, but that's something you can't really do more then once due to narrative reasons.

You can't just have 10
>LE SUPAH SECRET BIGGEST MILITARY CONTRACTOR BASES!
around the map

Hell, having one in the series beyond the Glow in general is fairly retarded.

>>187719238

New anon to the discussion, but at this point I decided to just not bother with the inconsistencies and just enjoy playing with shit like Sim Settlements to see growing towns or Abduction to make a thicc femraider harem

>>187720384
>Try going to Africa's savannas and tell me it's just as easy than walking around New York, faggot.
Nice false equivalence fallacy.

The fact you actually had to pull this out should be a clear indication of just how devastated you are.

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>>187720184
>I can't imagine this as a feature

>>187720498

>Safety from the harsh wastes? You know, the most valuable commodity there is?

What safety? The Khans kidnapped Tandi and the faggot guards can't even kill a handful of Radscorpions.

>Sure, but that's something you can't really do more then once due to narrative reasons.

Of course. Then again, no one demands unique equipment (at least I don't), just loot that lives up to the location.

Personally I feel the Glowing Sea is just a big rip-off of The Glow, but of course the normies haven't played Fallout so they don't know better.

>>187719238
>- The Institute makes perfect sense.
while I disagree with the other points made, this one is actually true.

From a viewpoint of pragmatic scientists who care nothing about the well being of others, what the Institute does makes sense.

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>>187719852
>Because that isn't realistic?
>realism
lol get a load of this retard

>>187720498
Big MT was retconned into being LE SUPAH SECRET CONTRACTOR BASE, better than anything West Tek pretended to be.

>>187720617

>Nice false equivalence fallacy.

No false equivalency fallacy there, friend.

Some places are naturally more dangerous than others. I sure as hell would prefer a walk around the woods than a walk around the African savanna.

>>187720384

I REMEMBERED

"LEVELED LOOT IS BETTER THAN HAND PLACED LOOT"

Now I just need to hear "voiced protagonist made the story more personal" and it's ogre.

>>187720756
>What safety? The Khans kidnapped Tandi and the faggot guards can't even kill a handful of Radscorpions.
I was speaking more of the Fallout 2 Shady Sands then the Fallout 1 shithole.

> just loot that lives up to the location.
I guess that all depends on what you expect from living up to the location.

If your stuck in this old RPG mindset of stronger enemies better loot, then sure, I can see why you would be peeved.

If you care more about narrative consistency then you really wouldn't.

>Personally I feel the Glowing Sea is just a big rip-off of The Glow
Ehh, it feels more like its just ripping off Fallout 3, since the rest of The Commonwealth isn't like the Capital Wasteland.

>>187720124
>walk into bear country
>get mauled
>walk into ghetto
>get shot
>wooooow how was I supposed to know, there shouldn't be any difficulty here that's unrealistic
are you done being retarded yet?

>>187720617
>Nice false equivalence fallacy.
You literally said there was no difference and now claim false equivalency. lmao 2/10.

>>187720896
>Some places are naturally more dangerous than others
That was never in question.

Now your just moving goalposts.

>>187720834
And wasn't Big MT largly considered something of a stain o nthe franshie for being
>LE WACKY MEMES
>LE BENIS JOKE!
>LE SUPER WACKY SCIENCE THAT MATCHES NOTHING ELSE IN THE REST OF THE SERIES!

I mean, Big MT.s basically just proved why the entire idea is retarded.

>>187720949

Oh, some miscommunication there. Haven't played FO2 so I wouldn't know.

>If you care more about narrative consistency then you really wouldn't.

You can have loot that lives up to the location and has narrative consistency. Like The Glow.

New Vegas is a major location, yet you don't really find "awesome" loot there in any way or form. You do find the Pulse Gun in Vault 34, which again makes sense from a narrative perspective and it's a pretty cool reward after the big ordeal you go through.

>>187721085
>why shouldn't there be end game areas
>that's unrealistic
>there's nothing more dangerous about the city or the wilderness
>there is no difficulty walking around
>uhbuh golposts
ah the death throes of a shitposter, nothing funnier

>>187721085

>that was never in question"

You said certain places being more dangerous than others isn't realistic. You literally said, and I quote:

"There is nothing arbitrarily more difficult about walking in the wilderness then there is in the city or vice versa."

You are implying the wilderness is EXACTLY the same as a city because you place them in a vacuum. Except they don't exist in a vacuum: "wilderness" can be anything from the woods, the savanna, a lakeshore, anything. Same with city.

No one ever said "every city is more safe than any wilderness". Only that some places are naturally more dangerous than others.

You moved the goalposts the moment you started discussing something no one was discussing.

>>187721251
> Like The Glow.
The Glow was a one off an unique location that doesn't really make sense to replicate.

>New Vegas is a major location, yet you don't really find "awesome" loot there in any way or form.
You have never been to the Gun Runner's stall have you? They sell all the best guns in the game there. It''s literally the go-to place to get weapons, even better then many of the unique weapons.

And it makes sense that they have them because its their job to make guns, and it makes sense they would have some of the best guns in the game since they are making new guns, instead of you having to use 200 year old ones.

>>187721513
> You literally said, and I quote:
Now your just fucking desperate if your going to far as to take what was said out of the context of the conversation of the areas in a Fallout game, which are never more then like 30-40 miles away from each other

>>187721546

>The Glow was a one off an unique location that doesn't really make sense to replicate.

And like I said, Vault 34 pretty much replicates it because it had a reason to have the cool loot.

>You have never been to the Gun Runner's stall have you?

When I said "New Vegas" I really meant to say "New Vegas": The Strip, and its casinos.

When it comes to the Gun Runner's, though, they don't give you their weapons for free. You must buy them. So I don't consider it to be "loot".

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Uh, I'm guessing this is from a mod?

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>>187707810
This tbqh

Sour grapes must be a bitch

>>187721671
>everything in a 40 mile radius will be perfectly safe everywhere ever
just give up, you dug your hole too deep already, slink away with your tail between your legs and get ready to shitpost later once this blows over

>>187721671
Nothing is taken out of context though. You got caught in your own stupidity and are now flailing at backpedaling.

>>187721671

>Now your just fucking desperate

someone is assmad

>>187721741
>Some kid playing with the Archimedes II C-Finder orbtial weapon targeting system.

>>187721787
which part?

>>187721741
>And like I said, Vault 34 pretty much replicates it because it had a reason to have the cool loot.
But Vault 34 had some pretty shit loot anon, because it makes sense all the good loot would have been taken out when the boomers left.

The only things of value are the Pulse gun, which is shit as an actual weapon, and only useful as a quest item, and the All American, which isn't that great as an end game gun.

>The Strip, and its casinos.
Still a disappointment that the people with the most cash and connections had little in the way of unique items.

But the Strip in general was a disappointment.

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>>187721671
>Now your just fucking desperate
also I don't think you've spelt "you're" correctly once this whole time, nice touch

>>187721845
>everything in a 40 mile radius will be perfectly safe everywhere ever
The fact you keep raising the level of straw man really only shows how pathetic your lack of stance is.

>>187722009
Is this a meme I'm not privy to or are people just dumb now?

>>187721671
>>187721862

Also, just to give you a proper response

>30-40 miles away from each other

Literally 100 miles between Necropolis and the Boneyard, faggot.

That's more than enough, IN REAL LIFE, to go from "perfectly safe" to "I will get my ass raped". In fact, I live less than 50 miles away from a place I would probably not make it out alive if I went there (bunch of people ready to steal my shit and kill my ass).

>>187722084
No, hes right, I don't bother to spell you're correctly when it should be you're and not your.

The fact he totally avoided the actual argument in favor of pointing out a spelling error does undermine his stance, since it shows he has no real rebuttal and is just constantly attempting t change the subject, but he is right about my misspelling.

>>187721919

He finds it from the body of a dead dude. And even then, the gun itself does nothing without first going to HELIOS One.

>>187721968

The Pulse Gun is really cool, bro. It allows me to take out robots easily (I tested it on House's securitrons the other day and it felt so good).

>>187722237
>Literally 100 miles between Necropolis and the Boneyard, faggot.
Again, false equivalence fallacy when we are talking about the modern Fallout games like 3, NV, and 4.

>>187722254
Why do you do this? I see it a lot and feel like it has to be intentional, is it to rustle people like me?

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I don't mind that there's good loot to be found in the Boston area, what I do question is why there's anyone living there with the daily radiation storms. All non-mutant life should be dead. Surface overrun by ghouls and only people being scavengers in rad suits or survivors living underground.

>>187722254
enough people have shown you're a retarded shitposter, I just touched on the only thing left
everyone can tell you're merely pretending at this point, you don't even know what you're arguing anymore because you keep changing it whenever you get proven wrong

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