/fog/ - Fallout General

>>187587754
Always love that clappy wood instrument

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First for cute character.

>>187587934
>He doesn't own ABRAXO CLEANER(TM) and lives like a savage

>>187588313
Looks like amari.
Stop posting.

>>187588313
Very nice, anon. For some reason, it reminds me of Lucy Abernathy, despite Lucy being ugly as sin.

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>>187588313
>not first
>not cute

>>187588578
Thanks. Its probably the flannel and short hair.
>>187588553
>looks like amari
wut Its literally Nora with different hair and eye color.

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>>187588313

>>187588313
That hair better be a bun anon. She looks nice overall.

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>>187588941
Its a short ponytail.

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>browse through the last thread
>apparently Maxwell's World is in the CC

Wait a second I thought already released mods couldn't get in?

>>187589082
It's a meme you dip.

>>187589143
french onion or jalapeño cheddar

>>187589268
Neither, because both of those are good. You're store bought generic bean dip.

>>187589069
That's fine too, carry on.

>>187589339
That's a pretty harsh statement Anon, I'd say he's at least fritos brand bean dip.

btw if you guys have never dipped Jalapeno Cheetos in either fritos bean/hot bean dip or their various cheese dips you are fucking missing out. It's so damn good.

You have to think of a new, major faction Fallout villain for the next series that isn't a major faction from a previous game such as Enclave, BoS, mutant army, NCR, etc.

Go.

>>187589917
Chink spies? Canadian shitposters?

>>187589909
>btw if you guys have never dipped Jalapeno Cheetos

They make those?

>>187589917
Bethesda HQ ghoul remnants

That location exists in the lore.

>>187589917
>faction VILLAIN
Nah, I'd rather give the players a choice and allow them to join them despite being 'evil'.

>>187589917
Canadian guerilla freedom fighters who think the war is still raging.

>>187589917
Hhmm, really depends on the location for the next game. If in the south then obviously the Major Villain will be an annoyingly hamfisted show of how bad being a racist slave owner is.
Give me a location and I'll think of something to fit, I guess.

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silver shroud is one of my favorite quests in FO4.

>>187590012
Hell yeah, my man. They're good on their own but with cheese or bean dip they're fucking great.
http://www.fritolay.com/snacks/product-page/cheetos/cheetos-crunchy-cheddar-jalapeno-cheese-flavored-snacks

A much better thing to spend your money on than paid mods, even if the paid mods have a seamless(hehe) integration.

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What the fuck skeleton is that.

>>187590593
Trying too hard there buddy.

>>187590593
How many other side quests are there in FO4?

>>187590782
Ghoul Whale.

Todd "Paid fucking mods" Howard

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>>187590968
Literally Hundreds.

>>187590983
What is the deal with the ghoul whale anyway? What's the legend? How did that become a meme?

>>187587934

Is the paid mod thing going to fail again, or like a ton of people predicted with the steam paid mods last time that they are just gonna keep trying it until it eventually sticks? I don't really see too much bitching about it like last time. Maybe because it's "just fallout 4" right now, and not a steam thing. Yet.

Disappointed.

>>187589989
If it's a large group, how did that group come to be in the US, and survive the bombs and lethal radiation? If it's a small cell, what makes them such a major threat that a game can be centered on their conflict?

>>187590052
What motivation would said army of ghouls have that bring into conflict with the character or other factions? They have before with Tenpenny Tower, what would make them a threat for an entire game?

>>187590059
I don't actually give a fuck whether you personally find good and evil relative concepts or not, and asked nothing about that. Every game has had a major faction villain that poses a much greater threat to the people of the region than the standard raiders/slavers/jerks.

>>187590071
Would this idea hold water 70-210 years after the world ends? What reason do they have to think the great war is still going on/relevant? Are Americans still holding Canada?

>>187590106
Midwest US, year... 2200.

>>187591265
>What motivation would said army of ghouls have that bring into conflict with the character or other factions? They have before with Tenpenny Tower, what would make them a threat for an entire game?

No need for any of that motivation shit, it would be wacky and that's all you need to become an evil faction in FO5.

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>>187590782
Bar Harbor has Whale Watching Tourism today so i'd assume that's a reference.

>>187591174
It's just the banter of one generic Bunker Hill cravaneer who tells the story of the cousin of her mothers sisters uncles father who saw a ghoul whale once.

>>187590782
I'm still mad that I can swim in the water without a care in the world (aside from rads).
Mutated dolphins and whales should've made it in.

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>>187591450
>I noticed you've been slamming the series' writing lately
>here's your chance to write an interesting faction with motivations that make sense /fog/
>thanks but nah senpai, more wacky shit with minimal thought tyvm

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>>187590968
Literally infinite.

>>187591720
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls

>>187591265
>year 2200
Nah, try again m8. Bethesda doesn't do prequels for Fallout or Elder Scrolls games. Midwest Year Fallout 4+ though doesn't really have anything to work with aside from the Legion or Whatever was all in Tactics.

>>187591968
That's the point. Something new, no Legion, no tactics stuff which technically doesn't exist anyway.

Go further than 2287 if you want, I personally feel like going further past the apocalypse than the series already has is causing problems, but it doesn't have to.

How do I denegro my character? At some point their face went blacker than that minuteman blackie.

>>187589917
>Pre-War Mexico broke down with the resource wars, the government collapsing in very last years of the war, giving rise to various cartels and lawless conglomerates carving up the country for themselves.
>Without the US - backing out due to food shortages - a proper standing army and unprotected borderss, Chinese infiltration was rampant across the nation. Submarines would discretely deliver troops, weapons and arms across the nation. Arming the cartels and further destabilizing territory near the border. Masking a future land invasion of the Texas and Four States commonwealth while the US was occupied with their own Chinese invasion.
>But then the bombs dropped and without vaults the Mexican population was almost wiped out. Few true humans are left and the nation is populated by ghouls; feral and sentient.
>A new government has rose in the decades after the war. A nation populated by pre-war ghouls that is wholly Mexican at heart but discretely ruled by the preserved Chinese operatives and guerrilas who had hidden out in their bunkers.
>Old World resentment to the US manipulated into full-blown fervor and warmongering. They mean to finish what the Chinese started and launch their invasion of the US centuries late.

>>187592385
Texture bug, buy the Bugfix Elite Pack on the CC for 300 Toddbux

Otherwise just quicksave, load a previous autosave so the game has to load the textures again and it should go away. Closing the game and launching it again should work too.

>>187592385
BLACKED
If reloading doesn't fix it stop using 4k facetextures, gamebryo can't handle something that advanced

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>>187592479
Now that is some good motivated villainy, and it explores relatively unexplored ideas in Fallout too (Chinese infiltrator operations, status of Mexico) I knew you wouldn't let me down anon.

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>>187590782
Even when wearing a gasmask, I must wear the sunglasses.

>>187592663
>>187592635
Closing the game and reloading it fixed it. All these weird bugs that turn you into a darkie are strange.

Is fo4 enemy level scaling level locking or preset level ranges?

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>>187589917
Post-War African civilization rising from what was left after the ressource wars, didn't get nuked because they were of no value or risk.
After two centuries sends out expiditions to the other continents to cleanse them for the glory of the New Ashanti Empire with their not-prydwen.

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>>187592797
Thanks. I probably could've written it down better, but its only something floating around in my head. About future Fallout games set on the west or mid-west.

While I still believe Fallout should only ever be in America, I've always wanted to see a Mexican presence involved heavily in a game. One way or another.

>>187593262
Neo-aztec invasion would be good.

>>187591246

>I don't really see too much bitching

Depends where you look. The announcement page on Steam is wall to wall bitching.

>is it going to fail again

Too early to say. They haven't done themselves any favours by making the initial release mostly recycled assets and rehashes of already existing mods, but that's only a major hurdle for them on PC; console players are another matter.

It also depends on how true Trainwiz's claims that they have bigger proper-DLC sized stuff in the works are; if they can deliver something actually worthwhile, they might be able to make it stick. If they continue with $5 gun reskins, they won't really be able to compete with the Nexus.

I wonder how many years the Nexus has before Bethesda sends them a C&D?

>>187593091
>Moorcock
Is this some sort of joke?

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>>187592846
So, my game seems bugged. Allen and a number of the Far Harbor NPCs are sort of just standing around a kneeling CoA member while Allen continuously fires? I found some suggestions to try and pickpocket and then run away to reset their AI. Any other suggestions I can try tomorrow?

>>187593990
>spoiler
OH, GOD

>>187594090
It's definitely some tongue in cheek humor from the author, illustrator, publisher, or all three.

>>187594253
Its his fucking name for ffs

>>187593086
Fallout 4 is like Skyrim in that enemies scale to you, but the further away from the starting area you are, the higher minimum level they have.

There are you places you can go where enemies will always be at least level 30 or w/e, even if you are level 1.

>>187594125
reverse pickpocket a nuka grenade into the kneeling guys pocket

>>187594307
in big, bold, black letters far exceeding his first name or the title of the book, the cover of which happens to feature black males conquering DC

the author probably wasn't in on it, I'll give you that, but the illustrator was definitely having a giggle.

>>187594413
Retard, all his books are like that.
>>187594491
Exceptionally retarded

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>>187594413
No, that's just the coverart they chose for a while.

When the fuck are 4chan mods going to ban cuck posters they are so fucking stupid holy shit. Look at the posts itt all they fucking think about is this shit. They are destroying the site.

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>>187585095
what was the story with this one? the only rimjob modding drama I know was gategate because arthmoor's autism can be seen from space

>>187594619
Basically, when the first paid modding thing happened, the SkiUI guy said he was going to make all new versions of SkyUI paied only, though you could still download all the earlier versions for free

>>187594679
didn't he also set all his other mods to pay mode only too?

>>187594316
Ok, thats what i assumed but some of the things i read on the internet acted like it worked like some games ive played where you enter an area and that locks that area to your level (within a range) for the entirety of the rest of that playthrough

>>187595027
>i read on the internet acted like it worked like some games ive played where you enter an area and that locks that area to your level (within a range) for the entirety of the rest of that playthrough
IT does, for interior cells

The moment you enter a dungeon it becomes locked to your level.

Outside areas continue t level with you though.

>>187595027
It's mixed.Interior Cells respawn their loot after a while but it's locked to the level and doesn't scale anymore.
Levelled Powerarmors you can find in the overworld are also level locked. So if you run through an exterior cell that has a PA hidden somewhere in it it will forever be a T45 even if you come back months later.

>>187595027
It pretty much punishes you for exploring.As dumb as it sounds, the smartest way to play FO4 is powerlevelling up to level 30 before visiting any dungeons.

>>187595504
>It pretty much punishes you for exploring.
It does no such thing m8.

>>187595632
Go to bed Todd.

>>187595671
>Le anyone who disagrees is Todd meme
Go back to /v/

>>187595784
no i was here first

From all the pictures I've seen of the CC in-game browser, it looks like it doesn't have the name of the author anywhere. Is it everything under Bethesda's name, the author only receiving whatever money they pay him? Because it doesn't sound right; how is the community supposed to know who they have to insult/praise?

>>187595931
Everything in CC at the moment was made by Bethesda.

That's what the quality is so underwhelming.

>>187595931
>how is the community supposed to know who they have to insult/praise?
You are aware that the whole reason it was made mostly anonymous was because of how violently idiotic people got towards modders last time they did paid modding?

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I just finished 4 and I gotta ask what was their fucking problem?
Does the game ever explain why the Institute kidnaps people and what it does with them?
I went with the Minutemen btw

>>187595982
Yes, basically it was autism.

>>187595978
Rightly so.

>>187595931
The current lineup with the exception of the backpack and shotgun was made inhouse.
But even then it's technically just contract work.It's legally and technically made by Bethesda.

>>187595982
>Does the game ever explain why the Institute kidnaps people and what it does with them?
Yes...... how the fuck are people so fucking stupid as to miss shit they spoon feed you?

The Institute kidnaps people for various reasons
1. They do so to replace them with synth agents so they can spy on areas with high levels of Anti-Institute sentiments.

2. They replace people like the mayor of Diamond City, so they can control the populace, and drive them against each other, so they can't untie against The Institute.

3. The replace people like roger Warwick so they can seize areas of resources and do experiments on the surface such as testing new kinds of crops that thrive in radioactive environments.

4. The people they replace are killed.

As much as I complain about New Vegas being the most hand holdey, spoon feeding, game made, I sometimes wonder if Obsidian did it because they knew people couldn't be assed to actually ask questions or pay attention.

>>187596160
Okay, let me rephrase my question.
Do you ever get to confront Father about it?

>>187596160
Long post anon but you somehow missed the main reason.
The reason they kidnap is they don't actually kidnap. They recruit potential scientists and replace them with a Synth.

>>187596256

No

Unless you like, tell him you're dissapointed in him on his deathbed

I think even if you side with the Institute you can pick a for the evuls line to say to him as he's dying

>>187596256
>Do you ever get to confront Father about it?
Sort of, you can ask him why the Institute bothers to fuck with the people of the surface like that, and Father explains that while they don't typically care about what the people of the surface do, they also understand that the surfacers paranoia makes them violent, and likely to try to attack The Institute, and only a fool would be blind to such threats, so they take measures to ensure that The Institute can't be harmed.

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>>187596256
I don't understand.
Why would you want to do that?

>>187596160
>yes......
you have to go back

>>187596295
>The reason they kidnap is they don't actually kidnap. They recruit potential scientists and replace them with a Synth.
You seem to be mistaken.

They do get outside Scientists like Doctor Li, and that other guy, but most synth replacements, such as the mayor of Diamond City, aren't because they are scientists.

>>187596256
That anon only has half the picture. Basically they abducted people who had skills they needed.
The morally dubious occurrences are due to bureaucratic bungling and egotistical scientists being pig headed.
Easiest one is probably Kelogg their guy on the outside who happens to be a murdering raider asshole.

>>187596353
Buffscale is full of shit yet again, see
>>187596359

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I wonder why they didn't put much other stuff into the CC lineup

>>187596439
Nope.jpg. Main reason the kidnap is for apptitude. Secondary reason is for intelligence and they target sick people. Remember they weren't always hiding.

>>187596465
>replacing the DC mayor, warwick and that random hobo in Goodneighbour was just a bungle

>>187596465
>Basically they abducted people who had skills they needed.
Again, this is half wrong

They do kidnap useful people, such as that one scientist.

But most synth replacements, such as those for the mayor of diamond city, roger Warwick, and Art, are done simply to insert agents.

None of those people had any high scientific knowledge or useful skills.

They were simply kidnapped, tortured, and killed, so that they could be replaced.

>>187596538

Nothing else is probably finished yet

>>187596564
Yeah anon egotistical pig headed decisions forced by the previous institute head.
Its in the emails.

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>>187596545
What the fuck are you talking about, the main prupose is infiltration and control.
We meet exacftly two surfacers who got recuited to live and work in the institute and neither got replaced.

>>187596538
Because its a beta, and not a full release.

It's literally done just to see if the system is functioning correctly,.

>>187596615
Anon you haven't played the institute side so you are completely wrong.
>torture
Retard

>>187596656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdr2UymC6FU

>>187596656
>Yeah anon egotistical pig headed decisions forced by the previous institute head.
Not him, but the replacement of Roger Warwick, and the mayor of diamond City, and Art, and that one guy in Goodneighbor, all happened during Shaun's tenure as Director.

You really have no idea what you are talking about

are there any good modpacks floating around? I don't have the energy to download them all manually

>>187596667
People reaaaally need to play the institute playthrough before commenting. They are nothing like they are made out to be.
>>187596768
You havent played the institute playthrough. Art is a good example they released the clone while the original was still on the surface. Its a mistake.

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>>187596741
>Stage 2:
Acquire Roger Warwick, patriarch of Warwick Homestead, and conduct a series of intensive interrogation sessions to learn all we can about his life and family.
>a series of intensive interrogation sessions
>intensive interrogation

>>187596538
That armor is so much uglier than Dogtooth/Unoctiums. How much can you even customise it?

>>187596864
>You havent played the institute playthrough.
I have, in fact, I have defended The Institute so much at least one fgt on here has started accusing multiple people of being me when anyone says anything in defense of The Institute.

See
>>187596869

>>187596869
>my headcanon is correct!
>they waterboard them!
Idiot, i forgot fog is inhabited by drooling retards.

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>>187596864
>proofs?
>none

Was there any good reason for the Institue to attack the Castle?

>>187596956
Why is your headcanon correct while his is wrong? Also why don't you debate him instead of resorting to faggot posts like that.

>>187596949
You have not. If you did you would know they are so unremarkably not villians.
It states outright things they have done wrong were mistakes.

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>>187596874
You can modify everything you see in this screenshot, besides the legendary effect.

That is from Love to Craft - Legendary ( http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13605/? )

>>187596864
Different anon here, and I have completed the Institute playthrough. There are only a few times they weren't how others make them out to be and none of those times were any better. Their attempts at reasoning with you over wh they do certain shit are idiotic at best, and outright malevolent at worst.

>>187597045
To remind the player that there's a story aside from Settlements needing his help and give the player a motivation to attack them.

>>187597089
We must being playing different games but they are nothing like the other factions to make them out to be.

>>187597130
So no?

>the institute did nothing wrong
>let's send kellogg to fuck up a town and steal a little girl
>let's send kellogg to steal a baby, kill one of the parents and then let all of the other residents die
>let's kidnap people and replace with synths for experiments and infiltration
inb4 the institute isn't responsible because kellogg is the one holding the gun

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>>187597176
No.

lads where ill find fo4 DLC's? came back after some time to give it a try but as with all beth games mods require all dlcs after some time so ill

>>187597231
Mistakes were made.
Please understand.

>>187596956
>fog
i forgot /fog/ is inhabited by shameless newfags

>>187597246
Figured. Honestly, the Insitute just seems so badly written I wanted to kill them on that alone.
Minutemen were plain but they at least made sense to me.

>>187597351
Fucking /fog/gots, amirite?

>>187597337
Qbittorrent.

>>187595982
Long version of the story

Back in the 2170s The Institute made it first contact with the people of the surface.

They started trying to help the people of the surface rebuild their lives, and spent several years helping the formation of the Commonwealth Provisional Government(CPG)

The CPG fell apart due to infighting between the various representatives of the commonwealth settlements, and the people of The Commonwealth used The Institute as a scapegoat for its failure.

The Institute was pretty peeved about this, but decided the best course of action was to simply just go back underground, and stay out of the surfacers way, in an attempt to show they meant them no harm.

This didn't really work, and for the next 40 or so years, the people of the surface blamed The Institute for everything that went wrong in their lives because
>MUH CPG!

What caused The Institute to change its course of action was the Broken Mask Incident, which resulted when a early prototype Gen 3 synth was let out onto the surface on accident, and it made its way to Diamond City, where it eventually shot up the market.

Fearing this might be the boiling point for the paranoia of the people of the surface, The Institute started sending out a few synth infiltrators to try to deflect people's attention off of them, in an attempt to tune the paranoia down.

This plan largely backfired when The Railroad came into existence, and they started helping Gen 3 synths escape, and started inserting Gen 3's into the avarage population in an attempt to hide them.

These synths were eventually found, and then the people of the surface started blaming The Institute for even more synth infiltration, when it was really mostly the Railroad.

The Institute created the Courser program in an attempt to reclaim these synths, and to get them out of the surface population, so people would have less reason to believe Te Institute had all these synth spies everywhere when they really didn't.

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>>187597338
>decimates village
>OOPS SORRY MATE

>>187597165
>I don't get why you are so determined to accuse people of having never played the game just because they disagree with you on something. They kidnap people, send synths to wipe out settlements or hunt specific individuals down with no regard for collateral damage (not that anybody else cares about that either) and the only real driving motivation they have is to "better humanity" but they have canceled the programs that would actually do that, so all they are really doing is using debatably sentient humanoids to further their own power over the people of the commonwealth.

>>187597079
Damn, that's even worse than I thought. And to think people who don't use PS4 will still choose that over Road To Libertys free version that is currently higher quality in every aspect I've seen.
What the fuck.

>All the people commenting on the institute that haven't played them
Shameful why go on the internet and lie?
Literally one of the final quests for them illuminates why they "kidnap" people. You are sent to a farm house to pickup a gifted scientist.
The minutemen are there to defend them and you have the option to tell them to stand down.
The scientist has cold feet and is hiding in his basement so you have to convince him to come too.
No one dies.

>>187597512
They asked for it tbfh

>>187597231
>let's send kellogg to fuck up a town and steal a little girl
Actually Kellogg was sent to buy the data off the girl. He only shot up the town because he believed they were lying to him about having the data, and he believed they were trying to sell the data to Diamond City behind his back.

>let's send kellogg to steal a baby, kill one of the parents and then let all of the other residents die
Kellogg wasn't actually supposed to kill either of the parents.

So what hole did all these institute apologists crawl out of?

>>187597564
I played that mission, but I also played the rest of the game to know that that recruitement was an exception.

>>187597717
the one under MIT

>>187597564
This has to be bait but you put enough effort into pretending to be retarded you deserve a (You).

The fact that they recuited Dr.Li and T.S.Wallace doesn't mean every single kidnapping was a recuitment.
Otherwise the Institute would be crawling with commonwealth people.

>>187597738
Nope. You are flat out lying and delusional. That is their modus operandi.

>>187597806
^What this anon said

And I'm the guy who defend The Institute
>>187597478

>>187597717
It only seems to be one guy who just keeps posting. At this point I assume it's caitfag with the name removed since the only reason catfag posts it to stir up annoyances and get angry (you)s anyways.

>>187597603
He still fucked up that town using institute synths. If the Institute didn't approve of results by any means necessary then they would've cut ties with Kellogg as soon as they found out what he'd done.

>Kellogg wasn't actually supposed to kill either of the parents.
He wasn't given explicit orders to kill the parents but he was still allowed to if he needed to. Even then, they were ordered to not restart the cryo-chambers for all the other residents.

>>187597717
Ironically Institutefagging has replaced ironic Legionfagging and ironic Enclavefagging before that.

>>187597871
You retards are reddit so reddit it hurts
>waah everones a nazi waah
Seriously? Fallout is too mature for you.

/fog/ is full of so many idiots. The amount of medication perscriptions must be insane. Every lore discussion boils down to one fat retarded nma fuck saying stupid shit for a few hours. Just delusional headcanon bullshit and ignorance.

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>>187597934
All i'm saying is that fagging for le ebil faction always guarentees the most (You)'s , sit your ass down.

>>187597865
>He still fucked up that town using institute synths.
Actually, he fucked up the town himself, the synths only came in later to try to find the data.

> If the Institute didn't approve of results by any means necessary then they would've cut ties with Kellogg as soon as they found out what he'd done.
No, they wouldn't have, because they still needed Kellogg to be an agent on the surface for them, and Kellogg already had too much Institute tech in him to be allowed to go.

>He wasn't given explicit orders to kill the parents but he was still allowed to if he needed to.
No in fact he wasn't. You are even told he was not supposed to at all.

> Even then, they were ordered to not restart the cryo-chambers for all the other residents.
While this is true, the other residents were effectively dead anyways, since they were going to be nothing but trapped there for all time anyways.

While I don't agree with the action, many would see it as an act of mercy for allowing them to finally die instead of being frozen there half dead for hundreds of more years.

>>187598036
No you dipshit this is why i almost cringed to death when i saw reddit discussion on Fallout. They literally think anyone that isnt the railroad is "ebil" nazi analogs.

>>187598036
institute isn't inherently evil and their projects will transform the surface in decades rather than millennia.

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>>187597934
>"Fallout is too mature for you."
>in reference to Fallout 4

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>>187598191
>implying there's anything wrong with being a nazi
Get a load of this goy.

>>187597871
>>187598036
>tfw I unironically Enclavefag and BoSfag
At least the Enclave had real goals and were constantly working towards them.
The mutant genocide was justified.
Colonel Autumn did nothing wrong.

>>187598247
That's the joke.

>>187597525
> but they have canceled the programs that would actually do that
Not him, but the only program The Institute cancelled was the cybernetics one, and Shaun mentions on his terminal he did so because he saw how no one else wanted to actually use cybernetics to its fullest, and only wanted it to become quasi-immortal. He canned it because he saw how all people wanted to do was abuse it.

Not to mention, Fallout has always shown that immortality always comes with some level of psychosis.

-The Master
-House
-Ghouls going feral
-The Think Tank
-Kellogg

Every single person who has obtained some level of immortality either goes crazy, or goes even more crazy over time, because humans are simply not mentally built to last forever, and always suffer mental decay from it one way or another.

All the cybernetic program would have done is turned everyone into Kellogg level crazy, or even worse, Big MT level crazy

>>187598230
>institute isn't inherently evil
Ooh, that one is super debatable. Could say that living in a paradise full of tech that could make the lives of everyone outside of that paradise better, but instead hoarding that tech, and even using it to experiment on outsiders, is pretty evil.

>>187598286
Not even joking when you read a reddit discussion where every faction in the setting is referred to as the nazis. You die a little inside.

>>187598350
Then as the Director tell them to stop trying to live forever, also House was still pretty sane. An ego the size of the Sun, but sane.
They also cancelled the FEV program, though it's quite obvious why considering how it was going.

>>187598378
Except everything is pretty much still in its experimental phases. You see this ingame with Warwick Synth and other projects.

Yeah it's shit they turn people into muties but it's what's needed to keep the pitchfork mob at bay so they can continue their work.

>>187598320
i thought you're the joke

>>187598502
>also House was still pretty sane
House was by no means sane, his egotism and narcissism were so overblown that all of his plans backfired, and blew up in his face, because he simply couldn't even comprehend the idea that he wrong.

House's mental instability wasn't violent, it was just incredibly self destructive to him and everyone around him.

>They also cancelled the FEV program, though it's quite obvious why considering how it was going.
They only cancelled it because Virgil went crazy and trashed the lab.

And even then it was only cancelled until Volkahrt or w/e the doctor's name was had the chance to go through all of Virgil's files and pick up where he left off.

Most of the bad stuff the Institute was just a case of people going ahead with projects without authorization and pety disputes.
This is also shown in the Institute playthrough. The institute was full of people who were brilliant but not good at decision making.

>>187598590
>it's what's needed to keep the pitchfork mob at bay so they can continue their work.
There would be no pitchfork mob at all if they stayed in their hole and didn't fuck with people on the surface for funsies.

>>187598845
Not him, but this is wrong, as The Institute did just that for the 40ish years between the fall of the CPG, and the Broken Mask Incident, and the people of the surface were still blaming them for everything bad that went on.

>>187598670
I still think House was sane, "all of his plans backfired" is quite inaccurate assuming you do a House playthrough. I'd also wager that the egotism and self destruct were prevalent before the bombs fell. He managed to get Vegas up and running, civilise the people, and form a relatively good relationship with the NCR.

>>187598845
But they did do exactly that. Did you not play the game?

>>187598728
>The institute was full of people who were brilliant but not good at decision making.
The problem with the Institute is that it's full of brilliant narcissists. Most of them don't care about anybody but themselves and whatever the next big toaster breakthrough they can make.

>>187598845
Their whole goal was to aquire the means to be self sufficient. They are ironically borderline hippies.
The only reason they are poking around the surface covertly is so they don't have to.
Thats what the end of the Institute quest achieves.
>people didn't play it.

>>187598915
There is no smoke without fire.

I agree that some people are irrational but the institute aren't exactly proving them wrong with their activities.

Fact remains that their synths have killed thousands if not more people and putting a stop to them is the only reasonable decision to make.

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From right to left:

1: Prism paint, CC Hellfire,
2: Normal paint, CC Hellfire
3. Coldfire Model, Nexus Hellfire
4. Brimstone Model, Nexus Hellfire
5. Hellfire Model, Nexus Hellfire armor
6. Normal Model, Nexus Hellfire armor

>>187599013
Why arent people getting this the boogeyman story about them was all lies and hearsay.
Thats the revelation if you side with them.
Its almost like people haven't played them...

>>187599013
>putting a stop to them is the only reasonable decision to make.
Honestly I'd be fine with them living underground forever if they didn't attack my boys for no reason.

>improving technology is an absolute good

End this meme. Progress has a pace and must be kept in step with the collective wisdom of the human race, otherwise you end up with shitheads using technology to fuck up the world again.

The world doesn't need better crops, terminators or terminator-loli hybrids, it needs the current dark age to last another couple hundred years so civilization can develop properly, with ages and ages of warfare and conquest. For the same reason House can get fucked too.

Any good modpacks floating around.

I really don't feel like modhunting for hours tonight (new comp)

>>187599090
oops, meant left to right

The point of the Synths was an army of janitors.

>>187599105
I played them, shaun has the "end justifies the means" attitude and doesn't care about the lives of a few lesser meatbags.

>>187599090
>>187599186
Oh, good, I was about the praise the CC model on accident. I really like the yellow one, the ones on the right are better looking.

>>187599006
>that's what the end of the institute quest achieves
Alright, now you really are just baiting? Well I'm hooked man.
The Institute quest ends with them lording over the commonwealth population, and even highjacking the local radio to broadcast this fact. If you actually think they just go back in their hole and hide away after the MQ is over you are delusional.

>>187599105
>Thats the revelation if you side with them.
No, that's what they TELL you.

>>187599120
>unironic luddite

>>187598941
Na, House is an idiot a a whole slew of reasons

1. After waking up from his coma House did nothing to try to secure a powerbase in Vegas, leaving it to rot, when he could have stabilized and rebuilt the city nearly a century ago. Him doing nothing left him in a vulnerable position when the NCR came, since he had nothing to defend himself with.

2. When he did eventually do something, he forced most everyone into decrepit slums, simply because they wouldn't cosplay for him. This in turn vastly reduced his powerbase, and made his position weak, since now he had to deal with not only the NCR and Legion, but also the horde of people around his Strip that hated him also. While the appeal of Vegas is the Vegas cosplay stereotypes, Vegas is not run solely on those kinds of people, and House would need the more common person to help keep the city functional, a chance he blew entirely.

3. When it came to actually running The Stp, House demanded everyone follow his rules, and refused to make any real contact with the Three Families, instead just taking a large part of their earning for himself. Any businessman can tell you this is a bad move, becuase it makes the people under you feel like you are tkaing advantage of them, which is exactly why the Omertas planned to attack The Strip, the White Gloves tried to go back ot being cannibals, and why Benny, House's own chosen successor, betrayed him.

4. To make this whole thing even more funny, if you look at the computer in the Securotron Bunker, you will see that the technical fault which made him unable to control it directly only happened a few years ago. Meaning, had House actually done anything decades ago when he had the chance, he very easily could have gotten the chip, and activated the secrutons there, long before the NCR ever showed up in force.

And all of this happened for no reason beyond the fact he was so stuck up his own ass he couldn't even begin to consider the idea he was wrong

>>187589917
Ex-Raiders who made a proper city through conquest.

>>187599090
I'm not sure what all is available for the CC version but the Fan made version also has all the default paint options other power armos have. Flames, Shark, Pink, Military, Vault Tec and a Sigma Squad variant that's very similar to the Hellfire Model but not identical. It also get's a different color if it's Mark 1 armor.

>>187599196
Well, those janitors roam the surface and murder anybody and everybody they see. Even when they're specifically sent to a place for whatever reason, they kill anybody who is there or shows up.

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i am so very tired, i have been lying in my bed for the last 2-3 hours. i only got out of the bed because i got mildly excited by the thought of exploring Nuka-World.

>>187599273
What do you think the point of the reactor was? The reason they are on the surface is they no longer need to hide themselves and synths can be used for their purpose of restoring the commonwealth its the good ending.

>>187599484
IThat's odd i feel really tired anytime i see a post of you too.

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>>187591558
Imagine the spooks

>>187599484
Please stay in bed and die in it you piece of shit

>>187599456
Not when you finish with them. They secure guard posts and peacefully walk around towns
>people didnt playthrough with them.

>>187599381
Right, so he's an egotistical asshole and shortsighted when it comes to dealing with wasters. But does that make him insane? I seriously don't think so. Yes Man is still the best choice though, of course.

>>187599615
Institute ending isn't canon.

>>187591558
it was cut, there was also supposed to be an underwater vault

>>187599723
>But does that make him insane?
Because egotism and narcissism to the degree of self destruction of not only yourself, but of everyone around you, is legally a mental illness.

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Nexus Chinese Stealth Suit

>>187599736
Hopefully nothing from fo4 is canon.

>>187599587
>>187599743
What's up with all those freshly stranded dolphin corpses in FO4 anyways?
Did they all conviniently die off a few days before Nora came by?

>>187599820
its just decoration and hinting at something that could've been. blame them not having underwater combat for no underwater enemies. it was likely a response for having slaughterfish but no underwater combat in skyrim.

BUMPING FOR WHERE I CAN FIND FALLOUT 4 DLC's

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CC Chinese Stealth Armor

>>187599820
Its implying institute made sea monsters

>'stealth' armor
>giant radiating orange beacon as a visor

>>187599791
THICC
H
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>>187599984
the meme with the armor is that you get a stealth field when you crouch

>>187599791
>>187599891
Unocticums version also comes with a worn, new and special texture option you can switch on the workbench and accessories like an overcoat i think.

>>187600027
>and accessories like an overcoat
How the fuck does that even make sense?

>>187599891
NO ASS
NO BUY

>>187600096
this desu

>>187599504
>moving the goalposts
Anon, I was arguing with the claim that they were going to return to their hole and hide away once again. Whether their presence on the surface is good or not is unrelated to that topic.
>>187599769
So he has narcissistic personality disorder. But I wouldn't consider that in the same vein as schizo, or dementia or something. He's also supremely intelligent and despite the failures you listed still accomplished a lot and is continuing to do so, assuming you don't kill him.

>>187600075
The stealth armor isn't just the vis coating, it projects a stealthfield around its wearer the same way the stealth boy does.
Otherwise it couldn't stealth your gun and your pipboy :^)

>>187600196
>thinks actual lore is "moving the goalposts"
Done with your stupid shit.

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>>187600248
>pure conjecture
>lore
Pick one.

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>can't run modded Fallout 4 at ultra settings and 4k resolution without dipping below 30 fps all the time

just kill me

>>187600196
> He's also supremely intelligent
Which is another problem.

Intelligence and madness are linked. Most of the smartest people in history were known to have very deep psychological problems.... like House's own egotism and narcissism!, which would only be worsened by living longer and longer.

>still accomplished a lot and is continuing to do so
The only thing House accomplished was his own imminent demise.

Had the deus ex machina player character, which he had no real way of knowing would exist, not come along to save his ass, House had a 100% chance of losing entirely.

House is, objectively, the least successful, and least stable, long term solution for the Mojave because he simply doesn't understand people.

>>187599615
I did play the Institute route, I'm currently playing the Institute route.

Them becoming neutral after you take over doesn't excuse them being assholes beforehand.

>>187599820
Maybe their stomachs exploded from mutated sea parasites, maybe they were hunted by fishermen, maybe the institute made them for lolz like everything else they do, or maybe it just works.

>>187600379
>and 4k resolution
Literally who cares

>>187600248
Jesus fuck you literally aren't reading my post, are you?
What they do on the surface was unrelated to my argument because I was arguing that they would generally be on the surface, rather than hiding away with no contact or surface presence as was implied by >>187599006 in stating "The only reason they are poking around the surface covertly is so they don't have to.
Thats what the end of the Institute quest achieves."
Did you even read any of my posts or just spout random Institute defending statements blindly?

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>>187600096
>>187600129
they are just equipped on mannequins tho.

Also the texture changed when in different weather, the CC version doesn't have shiny visors in rain/night... HMMMM

>>187599891
>no ass and it's the shiniest "stealth" suit ever
Does it at least have CBBE combatibility unlike the Nexus one?

>>187600484
Both those posts are mine you moronic retard.

>>187600468
I do.

1080p and 1440p look like shit compared to 4k

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>>187600509
>visor turns black in rain
Cool, but also somewhat odd. Like, why would a suit do that in rain specifically? At night, sure, but why specifically rain?
I honestly wonder if that's a bug with the reflection maps or working as intended™ ?

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>>187600515
it's shiny because the sun is at it's peak and i set up the photoshoot to maximize the light.

the nexus one has CBBE support if you download the patch for it.

>>187600554
>1080p and 1440p look like shit compared to 4k
Is this going to be the new graphics meme for the next several years?

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>he doesn't play Fallout 4the way it's intended to be played at 480p and 8 bit colors

>>187600802
>implying my computer could run that
Not everyone is rich, you know!

>went from find my daddy to find my baby

>>187600551
I know that they are, Anon. That's the point. I was quoting you to show how you randomly redirected the conversation when I contradicted you. I only originally replied to you to deny that the institute was not going to simply remain underground and leave the surface alone, their flag and Synths in diamond city are evidence enough of that. What they do on the surface is still unrelated to the argument that they would remain underground. Infact, saying they will do anything on the surface is admission that they will not be remaining in isolation. Good or bad, they have a very notable presence in the Commonwealth after their questline is over.

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desu, im not sure if it's the rain or if it's that it's 7PM/night that makes the armor darker, but i prefer it this way.

It makes sense tho, at peak sunlight a stealth suit isn't that efficient.

>>187600873
>Both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 have heavily religious overtones
>Fallout 3 was about The Father
>Fallout 4 was about The Son
>Fallout 5 will be about The Spirit

>>187600873
Nah
>went from find my daddy, to find my parcel, to find my baby

>>187600654
>graphics meme

Did you play games at 800x600 until 1080p because every other resolution was just a meme?

The difference between 800x600 and 1080p is less than the difference between 1080p and 4k.

>>187600873
>F5 find your creator you're a Synth

>>187601023
New Vegas isn't canon.

>>187601002

>The Spirit
>Fallout 5 will be sponsored by Jack Daniels and focus on restoring their distillery

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photochromic_lens

I think it's cool they baked this effect into the CC stealth armor

The visor essentially turns into sunglasses only when needed, and stay clear when the sun isn't present.

Kind of immersive, considering having sunglasses on constantly would downgrade eyesight.

>>187601002
They both easily represent the holy trinity with members of the family you are part of.
3 had the Father, you re the Son, and your mother is the Holy Ghost
4 you default play the as father, Shaun is the son (who they call Father) and the mother is the Holy Ghost (again, just by default)
Shaun also becomes a ghost too though, as does your dad in 3.
New Vegas doesn't really fit, though I'm sure with a bit of effort or more biblical knowledge than I have you could draw some strong parallels. Honest Hearts is interesting because rather than have biblical symbolism in the background/around you a character literally just runs up and tells you exactly how current events relate to the Bible.

>>187601093
Take it back!

>>187601216
No, it will be the crossover of Elder Scrolls and Fallout, about how your spirit returns to the dreamsleeve after death and get's reborn somewhere else.

>>187601216
Amen

>>187601039
>The difference between 800x600 and 1080p is less than the difference between 1080p and 4k.
Visually not really.

800X600 looks way different then 1080.

Many people can't even see any real difference between 1080 and 4k

>>187600379
what hud mod

>>187601358
New Vegas doesn't count because it was made by another company, and thus, wouldn't be expected to follow the same meta-thing as Fallout 3/4 did

>SKs bombed the Norks
Fallout is almost coming true almost there

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so far, the only issue i have with the Chineese Steatlh Armor, is that it isn't possible to mod.

and since it's .esl, can you even override it's values to support the armor keyvalues, so that it can be modded with Armorsmith?

anyone know anything about this?


kind of seems bit of a meme, to have to mod a paid mod to get proper functionality

>>187601683
>to get proper functionality
This is an even bigger meme

>>187601504
Yeah, i get that. But I'm sure religious parallels can be drawn anyways,as they can be made to literally anything with how broadly religious texts are written. I guarantee if you were to try and write something with no religious symbolism or references it would be impossible.
>>187601335
So it's a visual error related to getting wet that mimics a feature? Can you show it happening while not wet or in the rain?

>>187601683
You can change it to an .esp, mod the values and change it back to an .esl afterwards.

>>187595185
>>187595346
Fuck, fuck fuck fuck.

So what counts as an interior cell? Something delineated by a loading screen? At what level is it safe to enter areas?
Is
>>187595504
correct? Level 30?

I know now not to enter the molerat cave under red rocket i guess.

For fucks sake
For
fucks sake

Is there a mod that marks interior areas so i dont accidentally enter one?

>>187601906
>Fuck, fuck fuck fuck.
What the hell arey u frekaing out about?

All areas near the starting zone have level maximums so that, even if you enter them at level 30+, they will still only spawn as if you had entered at level 10.

>2033-16
>Not consoling yourself to 30, making your build and playing from there as soon as you do a new game

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>>187601725
Seems rain/wetness makes the armor better, lmao

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>>187602074
>cheating

>>187602112
Where do I get that thingy to put settlers in?

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>>187602183
Resources -> Misc -> Pillory

it's in one of the workshop mods, i think.

>>187602167
Nigga do you know how boring the first 10hrs of gameplay are? It's either console myself to 30 or spam caltrops at the chemlab until I at least hit 15.

>>187602335
>rewarding yourself without working for it
>fun

>>187602046
>What the hell arey u frekaing out about?
Uncertainty, i can not handle uncertainty

>All areas near the starting zone have level maximums so that, even if you enter them at level 30+, they will still only spawn as if you had entered at level 10.

The way the game should have worked then, is that all these areas will continue scaling with you, until they reach their level maximum.

Dont mistake my feelings here anonymous. Im not a fan of level scaling to the point that everywhere in a game just stays at your level at all times. Im not complaining that things do not keep up with my forever, its a valuable part of the rpg experience to go back to a lower level area and just slaughter everything.

I just want to ensure that every level locked location is at its maximum possible level. I do not want options destroyed for me, the option to go to a location and get the most out of it. I want to get the most out of everything, ive spent 3 days after buying this game just researching the perk system and making many different characters to do preliminary testing in the early game before i settle on my main playthrough.

Ive not got it all worked out, but then this comes in, and whereas just moments ago i was feeling confident that i could finally start to enjoy the game, now this entire new avalanche of doubt has collapsed on me anonymous. I cant breathe! The ice is suffocating, its so dark.

How do i cope with this? It may take days to get it all figured out. Why do they do this, why must every game system be a minefield of things that seem designed just to fuck with perfectionist/ocd/completionist/autists/whateverthefuckiswrongwithme

>>187601906
>So what counts as an interior cell
All interiors and encounter zones, essentially.
Or to put it simple, all locations that can have the [Cleared] Flag on your pip-boy map.

https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Cell_Reset
>Encounter Zone levels do not reset.
>the Encounter Zone will remain locked in at the level it was at when the player first visited the location.

>>187602335
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13285/?

I just use this mod to speed things up if i feel like it.

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Huh, that one anon was right. Gave raybans to a settler then got a cutscene to see she's basically a whitegirl with blackface.

>inb4 purple hair

>>187602335
>spam caltrops at the chemlab until I at least hit 15.
Is this a viable leveling strategy? Should i do this?

I cant cheat but i can exploit the fuck out of the game system. I typically dont leave the skyrim tutorial untill ive beaten poor sven for a few hours, and in morrowind i always got to 20 in balmora using alchemy, spell school leveling, and training to get those optimal 5x multipliers.

>>187602481
>making multiple characters without finishing the game on the first or second one
You've already ruined it for yourself mate, you'll see.

>>187602481
>The way the game should have worked then, is that all these areas will continue scaling with you, until they reach their level maximum.
They do anon.....

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>>187602623
>he didn't craft 3478940 iron daggers in skyrim to bridge the first 200 levels

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>>187602623
You can just spam wood fences for XP after scrapping sanctuary as well

>>187602508
If areas do have a maximum level they will scale too, surely it would be a very incredibly easy mod to simply cause them to reaquire a level when they reset? It sounds like the game handles level scaling properly with locational caps, but the only mods ive found that mess with level scaling do a whole lot of stuff. Is there no mod that just lets you simulate always entering an area at the maximum level that area is capable of?

Maybe even a mod that forces the max area levels, so you can get a real sense of progression by running into areas that obliterate you.

>there are people that think spamming crafting is more entertaining then just playing the game to level
Fucking autism man

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>there are peope who left Sanctuary before hiting lvl 70
>there are people who didn't craft and scrap mutfruit plants threehunderfiftyeight times to advance levels
>there are people who don't loot every location, sleep for three months, then reloot them at least eight times

>>187602863
i think it's more about that if you are higher level before you go out, you don't have to deal with pipe guns everywhere.

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>>187602074
>>187602335
>cheating
>in a fucking fallout game

>he plays on normal difficulty

>>187602693
This is how i aproach all bethesda games. Its fine, i always get hundreds of hours each even after i stop doing this initial thing. I can not tollerate blind playthroughs.

If it makes you feel any more optimistic the build i settled on is not a stealth sniper, im not even taking vats critical stuff untill around 50. Im roleplaying :^) But my roleplay has to be finely minmaxed and planned out ahead of time. It is the final ultimate form of minmaxing, both gaming the games mechanics AND ensuring immersive cohesion simultaneously. Not for the squeamish.

>>187602756
Thanks for your advice. I like to not scrap too much of sanctuary since if i cleared it all out id have to build up the entire fucking settlement. This frightened me, but then at a point i saw a suggestion to just make a little fortified area within it. This seems comfy, but to look right you must leave most of the area trashed and run down.

>>187602740
I have just been explicitly told that interior areas aquire a level once and then stick with that level even after the area resets and is no longer [cleared]. Are you telling me that when they reset after an ingame (month? weeks? however long) they will require a level and rescale up to their maximum?

>>187603039
Even when you're high level pipe guns are everywhere

>>187602757
> surely it would be a very incredibly easy mod to simply cause them to reaquire a level when they reset?
As far as I am aware no mod has done this ever since the system was introduced back in Oblivion.

>>187603095
not really, they get replaced with 10mm, combat rifles, assault rifles etc etc

they do still spawn yes, but mostly on low level npc's.

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>>187603095
>rob pre-war bank
>it's full of pipeshit

>>187603082
Just get all the trees since fences only require like 2 wood?

The trees make sanctuary look really messy too

>>187603237
pipe weapons are pre war
:^)
even though actual unironic counterfit weaponry are modeled off of real deal weapons instead of le pipe weaponS!!

>>187603237
>He doesn't know pipeguns are pre-war weapons

>>187602757
>surely it would be a very incredibly easy mod to simply cause them to reaquire a level when they reset?

I'm using one of those level scale mods actually. A look at fo4edit and I learned all it does is set the level range in all areas at 0-127. I'm guessing it's probably due to a 2^7 hard limit on it, so no more than 128 possible values.

>>187603415
Changing the level range to 127 is pointless because an entry of level 99 in the GECK means the area scales forever, even past 99.

Putting 127 may actually lower the maximum level possible for such areas

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>>187602757
>Maybe even a mod that forces the max area levels
That would be quite easy. Just set the minimum level to whatever you desire.If i set the minimum level of an encounter zone to, say, lvl30, it will always calculate every actor and object to at least lvl 30 even if the player enters at lvl 1.

Problem is you'd have to do that manually for each encounter zone. And not every dungeon is a encounter zone. Many other locations are simply regulated by the IHoursToRespawnCellCleared scriptvalue

>>187603237
>pipeguns were the real reason the war started

So energi weapons or normal weapons, /fog/?

>>187603415
>all it does is set the level range in all areas at 0-127

Doesn't this mean that it just destroys the distinction of lower level and higher-level areas, while simultaneously not fixing the problem of areas locking into the level you first entered them in?

The way it seems, for an area to reset but retain the level it was locked in as, it has to actually intentionally store that information somewhere to regenerate the enemies/containers to a level you are not currently at anymore, but were at.

So surely finding this variable and just making it constantly update to the current player level every time you level up would fix this entire thing.

>>187603494

I'm gonna need a source on that anon. First time I ever heard of it, and googling gives me no results.

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>>187603546
>use the same two weapons for your entire 1250 hour playthrough
>or everything else

>>187601335
Which CC mod gives that UI?

>>187603679
>I'm gonna need a source on that anon
It's in the GECK itself anon

>>187603708
Not him but

>energy weapons
>laser and plasma

>normal weapons
>bullets and pellets

Well shit I am just positively spoiled for choice

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>No homemade weapons
>Just pipeshit slapped together in 3min and sold for hundreds of caps

>>187603754
this for the survival shit
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20818/?

this for the clock
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20300/?


tweak with holotapes, mite have to restart game once for the survival holotapes to spawn in your inventory.

>>187603654
>Doesn't this mean that it just destroys the distinction of lower level and higher-level areas, while simultaneously not fixing the problem of areas locking into the level you first entered them in?

Once again, from what I saw on fo4edit, Todd's sweet lies. Even on vanilla I found already locked level ranges, and a lot more strict on that. I found nothing that suggests an area assumes your level when you get in. Seems to be a case of
>Well this is probably the level people will be ar when they reach the area

>>187603914
You seem to be confused as to how level locking works anon.

The ranges determines what range the level locking can scale too, it doesn't just assume your level.

>>187603874
because this game was made by people who have either never touched an actual weapon before or are completely clueless to how firearms are designed/manufactured.

>>187603904
>nexus
This isn't CC.

Kellog did nothing wrong

>>187604328
>getting shot in the face
>not wrong

>>187599791
>the one on the right

THICC

>>187604328
he slaughtered innocent people for pay and botched multiple missions that resulted in unnecessary deaths. he's a terrible mercenary and he's a terrible human. bethesda's mealy mouthed appeal to character depth doesn't change this.

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Question: Is there a way to hide the visual alterations of certain weapon mod, or at least, replace the visual effects with the original model in FO4?

For example, if I want the tri-barrel and the shredder with the minigun but want to keep the original unmodded weapon model, how should I do it? This is highly autistic, but I'm a sucker for aesthetics.

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>>187603546
>revolvers are shit
>hunting rifle is shit
>"""handmade""" rifle is shit
>notTommygun is shit
>pipeshit everywhere
>assault rifle is shit
>lever-action is shit
>the only non-shit guns left are gauss, 10mm pistol and combat rifle
>we don't have any more guns because Bethesda thinks gun mods = gun variety
>the mods change fuck all and shit guns are still shit no matter how much you mod them
Energy in Fallout 4. I wouldn't be surprised if NV had more guns than F3 and F4 put together.

>>187604323
i doubt CC will ever implement UI mods, because of the potential issues that will arise.

>>187604467
i-it's all the same armor, friend. That's the nexus version

>>187604551
>>lever-action is shit
>"""handmade""" rifle is shit
Fuck you

>>187604328
He should have shot the kid and kidnap the wife, maybe then I would care a little about the main quest.

>>187604632
lever action rifle reloading max rounds regardless of how much ammunition expended is enough for bethesda to both fuck off and the weapon to be relegated to the pits of tartarus.

>>187604586
>potential issues
???

>>187604731
Havent played the dlc yet but fuck, I wanted to use that

>>187604809
DONT WORRY THOUGH THERE'S MODS!!!!
another famous example of bethesda's QC and people think that CC wont be a bug ridden mess

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>>187604632
>reload 5 round EVERY SINGLE TIME
>shell bukkake because we need to show off muh shitty reload animation
This is some shit taste.

>>187604752
for the console plebians, i doubt issues will arise.

but there's the question of SKSE, and dependencies on i.e. hudframework, def_widgets.

I highly doubt it'll come to CC, it's such a niche minor thing

>>187604551
>not even mentioning the energy weapons, Deliverer, junk weapons from Fallout 3 (Railway Tifle, Junk Jet, etc.), or heavy weapons

>>187604482
Swap the attachment models.
For example, when you mod the minigun to Tribarrel, it switches to the model called Minigun3barrel.nif located in the weapons/minigun folder.
If you take the vanilla minigun model, rename it to minigun3barrel.nif and replace the original you're good to go.

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Heavy weapons > small """""weapons"""""

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>>187605137
>animu posters
>shit opinions

>>187604981
>implying energy weapons are bad
>implying deliverer isn't in the 10mm pistol category
>implying junk weapons weren't always shit
>implying anyone is going to haul any heavy weapons on survival

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>>187605218

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>>187605087
Much appreciated, anon.

Ad Victoriam

>>187605220
>not playing a max str and mex endurance build for survival
Cringe

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>>187604935
>sell Official™ Bethesda™ UI extension™ on the Bethesda Softworks™ Creation Club™ for the low low price of 500 Bethbux
>requires the Official™ Bethesda™ Script Extender™ on the Bethesda Softworks™ Creation Club™ for 5600 Bethbux

>>187605381
>putting points in str
>when there aren't any good perks after 6
kys

>>187599090
>The unofficial one has more details and panels
Weird.

>>187605494
>>187605381
>not staying in PA forever for the STR buff
>not fighting, sleeping and pooping in the PA till the end of time

>>187605451
I think the only way they'd do UI mods for CC, is if they reworked the UI system and launched it as a free update.

Because it'd have to be modular, unless they assign permanent positions, and holotape configuration isn't really seamless.

It needs to have that finishing touch to it, and that's too much work. It'd need some bethesda developers to do it.

>>187601413
>can't see the difference between 1080 and 4k

literally what the fuck

The difference is fucking staggering if you have a 1080p monitor and a 4k monitor next to each other and compare. I can do that right now.