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>Everything EO (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
https://pastebin.com/cdfQmt11

>EOV
http://atlus.com/etrian5/
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/

>EMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

EOV releases in the west in Fall 2017, yes, Europe as well
EMD2 releases in Japan August 31

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>>187016289
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Will it be good.

Also can you believe it's not Himukai?
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>>187454442
What a cute Monk
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>>187454638
Monk(ey)
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>>187454442
The eyes are completely off, can tell right away it's not
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>>187456136
You're right, there's too much life in them.
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>>187454442
Something something sameface
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>>187454442
That monk is just begging for a hard dicking.
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>>187457931
I wish she would breakfire fist me
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>>187307784
teach on a different general
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>>187458379
>EO3U is mobile
>We're forced to move with them.
I'm scared.
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>>187458379
>EO mobage
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>>187458379
They can keep her
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>>187454638
I've always loved that portrait, but I can't not use Ranma.
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How does my Warlock look?
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>>187460179
Hideously pixelated.
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>>187460179
I'm not a fan of really pale skin, but I like the hair.
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>>187460329
Sorry anon, I have no computer at the moment.
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RIRI!
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Started a Classic Standard run on EOU1 with a party of Protector, Ronin, Dark Hunter, Hexer, Troubadour and had a few questions. 1) Do I need a 5 Survivalist party to gather resources? 2) General builds for each party member; I have a basic idea for each one, but after that I'm kind of lost

>Protector, Rush Defender, then what? Shield Rush, Parry, Prayer?
>Ronin, Unlock each elemental attack and max out Katana Mastery, no clue after that
>Dark Hunter, Max Viper, unlock Ecstasy, probably the easiest character to build
>Hexer, I heard Evil Eye/Suicide Word works wonders, but I don't know what to do afterwards
>Troubadour, Since I don't have a Medic, she's going for Healing Lullaby, but then what?
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NENE!
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KASARETATE WO HANASA ZU HOTOU KANAI TE
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>tfw when you complete the monster and item index
is this that feeling that they call a midlife cruses
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>>187471998
100%ing the game is OCD
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>>187472567
You don't know what these games mean to me. They aren't games. They are MY stories.
And now they're over because there's no new content.
I just beat V, and EMD isn't EO.
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>>187472567
You are in the wrong here.
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>>187463083
5 Survivalists just makes stuff easier to gather since they have all the gather skills.
It prevents your main party from wasting skill points on gather skills while still giving you increased chances for good stuff.
But it's not outright necessary.

>Protector
Front Guard is what you want, especially with a Troubadour.
You only have 3 buff slots, don't waste them with defensive stuff.
To compare: Defender 10 reduces physical damage by 25%, Front Guard 10 by 40%.
In random encounters Defender is just way more expensive since they are so short and for Boss Fights you have enough TP to last - and you also want the higher reduction.
Afterwards you get the Walls to at least 5 so they negate their element (and any added effects an elemental attack might bring) and then you can go for defensive passives and Bravery's Gift.

>Ronin
Having one strong skill is better than having a bunch of weak ones even with elemental coverage.
Choose either Upper Stance or Drawing Stance and learn all skills in that Stance. When TP costs become scary you can also sprinkle in Slantwise Cut levels for random encounters.
Afterwards you can build towards Peerless Stance.

>Dark Hunter
That one works.

>Hexer
If you are having an Ecstasy Dark Hunter you want your enemies to be fully bound so your Hexer learning their binds can help with that after Evil Eye is done.
Madness Curse has panic which is the second best ailment after fear.
And Frailty Curse increases your damage (if you have time and skill points left over for it). You also don't have many other buffs.

>Troubadour
First and most importantly you want Warrior Song to increase what damage you have.
One Prelude - any that you like, it doesn't matter - is also a further damage boost for your Dark Hunter (but not for your Ronin since their Stance already takes up a buff slot). The damage buff of Preludes works on normal attacks and skills while the element they add only works on normal attacks.
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>>187463083
>>187475528
cont.

I don't know if you are that far in but eventually you will get a mansion and a maid named Rosa. She will be able to give you tea to drink before heading into the labyrinth.
If you buy her tea and do some quests for her she will unlock new teas until you finally get Elderevenge.
Elderevenge heals a tiny bit of TP and HP for party members that attack.

That is important for the Troubadour's Echoing Rondo - it is way stronger than Healing Lullaby but only works once per turn if a party member gets healed.
When that happens everyone else gets healed for a pretty big amount.
So with Elderevenge and Echoing Rondo your Ronin would attack, Elderevenge triggers for a few HP and everyone but the Ronin gets healed for a lot of HP, then the Dark Hunter attacks, Elderevenge gives them a few HP and the Ronin gets healed for a lot of HP.
If that set-up sounds too cumbersome you can use Healing Lullaby and items.
Restful Tune 10 is useful for out of combat healing (it heals 130 HP for 3 TP which is great - before 10 it is less stellar, sadly).

Lastly Troubadour has Taboo Rondo which increases buff and debuff duration on everyone.
This allows your Warrior Song, Prelude and maybe Frailty Curse to last indefinitely but most importantly: It works on your Ronin's Stance.
So they only need to set it up once and can use their skills properly for the rest of the boss fight.
Great for turn economy (and your Troubadour usually has nothing better to do).
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>>187472924
That's called aitism, you brought this onto yourself
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>>187465092
What is she wearing!?
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>>187477013
She dodges attacks by a hair.
All the dodging makes it so her bodysuit gets ripped instead
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>>187477013
Slutwear as the slut she is
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>>187477174
The hit that almost sliced her belly open must have been scary.
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>>187478595
The struggle is real.
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So I just started EOU2. I'm fairly new to these games but I just finished 4 recently. How is my party/how can I improve?

Beast/ Highlander/ Dark Hunter
War Magus/ Troubadour

Was considering swapping Troub for Hexer or Sovereign
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A cute blonde couple right here.
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>>187478809
War Magus is a great damage class in melee since Ailing Slash is one of the strongest skills in the game.
But it needs an ailment and they suck at inflicting those themselves.

Dark Hunter is a great damage class since Ecstasy is the strongest skill in the game (especially with Trance) but it needs all three binds and they can inflict at most one at a time.

A Hexer would make your party way stronger.

War Magus also has Vampire which heals their line for a percentage of the damage they deal against ailing enemies.
With Ailing Slash that can be enough to sustain a Beast. But that would mean you have four frontline characters.
If you don't run Vampire you could simply use the Beast in the backline. As opposed to Fortresses they don't have any advantages from being in the front. Hit-Taker will still protect the entire group and will still treat them as if they are in the front.

So
War Magus / Highlander / Dark Hunter
Hexer / Beast

This way if your Beast tanks a party wide attack and dies after the fourth it the fifth hit will disappear instead of killing another party member.

(To improve your party even further you could run an Alchemist instead of a Highlander for elemental coverage or a Troubadour instead of the Highlander for maximum memes - a Properly buffed Dark Hunter can one-shot bosses up to the post-game.
But that would seriously change the core of your party and the WM/DH/H combo is strong enough as is.)
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>>187480524
Ah thanks for the tip anon
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Why is everyone asleep?
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>>187482493
It was a long day in the labyrinth.
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>>187482493
Petaloids.
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>>187477561
>a few inches and we could finally be free from nene
Fucking monsters cannot do anything right
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>>187478595
>autowalk
no wonder he got fished, what a shitter
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>>187483153
But then all it would take is a Nectar and she would be good as new.
We will never get rid of Nene.
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>>187478595
Wait - how did he draw floor and walls in one motion?
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Why the fuck do Gunners miss so often? This shit is infuriating.
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>>187484274
Try hitting anything with such a shit gun made from monster scraps, i still wonder how the fuck they even work and not explode in their hands
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>>187484274
EO2U?
Their skills have bad accuracy.
Later on that gets eaten up by their AGI which increases their accuracy.

Their whole class design is strange in EO2U.
They have the highest AGI which should make them fast and accurate but their skills negate that by being slow and inaccurate.
So all their AGI does is increase their AGI-based damage.
Like they really, really wanted to make an Arbalist instead.
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>>187484620
Considering Point Blank, I'm inclined to believe you.
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>>187486394
Is her phone turned off?
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>>187486574
Smart smartphones turn their screen off when you put them to your ear.
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>>187486574
>blonde is stupid
nothing new here
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>>187483406
he's a ninja
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>>187486878
Interesting.
Makes sense, I guess.
I never saw it happen for obvious reasons.
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>>187487042
Ninpo: Shitty Map Drawing
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>>187487219
that's just map magic, every single fucking time you wnat to draw just a single line the floor gets drawn instead, fuck maps
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All neneposters must be shot
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Do potatoes make good necromancers? I really get off on the idea of a cute potato girl being a necromancer.
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>>187489169
>White washing your necromancer
Shame on you
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>>187489169
>this party
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>>187489283
Colorblindness is a serious disorder and shouldn't be mocked.
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>>187489518
shit taste is a bigger problem here
just as party composition
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So how do I figure out turn prder in EOV and the other games when using a skill sim? I know agility determines who goes first, second, etc but then how do speed modifiers play into it? Is it simply a 70% speed modifier takes the characters agility stat and reduces it by 30%?
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>>187489169
>those colors
(You)
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>>187489169
To answer your question:
Yes.
Potatoes have the highest WIS and second highest INT.
Necromancers have one party heal and their damage skill scale with INT.

A potato Necromancer will be more sturdy and heal better than an elf but deal a bit less damage.
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>>187489674
It takes your entire speed and multiplies it by the multiplier.

AGI is the main source of your speed but shoes and gloves increase your speed while shields and heavy armor reduce your speed.

And lastly there is a bit of RNG fuzzing going on.
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>>187490535
Do ghosts use the necro int too or they have their own stats like hawk/dog?
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>>187490731
They have their own stats and use their own STR to attack. Blowing up a ghost takes the Necromancer's INT.

Btw. ghost stats suck, their STR is small and their WIS and VIT are even worse.
Depending on how you generate them they can have some decent HP but they take a ton of damage. Unless you cheese a 9999HP ghost by using Zombi Powder on a FOE weak against instant death they won't be able to take too many hits.

Their normal attack has a small chance to paralyze but since their LUC is also trash you can go through the entire game without that ever happening.
Their AGI is so low that they will almost always go last and lastly they have like a 20% chance to do nothing at all.

So unless you use two Necromancers and Open Grave plus Ghost Dance ghosts are not a source of damage.
They are ammunition for your Necromancer skills.
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>>187491129
But would the cheese strat with two necros be less effective with potatoes? It seems it's not since ghosts are supposed to use their stats for it.
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>>187491374
It would be exactly the same.
If you only want your ghosts to attack your stats don't matter. You could be a bunny and your ghosts would still be the same.
Same as a Rover that doesn't attack themselves. It could be a potato and their pet would still perform great.

Now what might be harder as a potato is getting 9999HP ghosts because of their trash LUC and ghosts made by Gates of Hell would have less HP compared to an elf since their INT is smaller.
But both of these skills are not in the same legendary name as Ghost Dance and Open Grave anyways.
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>>187491129
>Ghost stats suck
They get 6x damage from maxed mastery. How do Ghosts suck but Hawks do a trillion damages?
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Does Oracle Dance/Three Runs count as INT based for the Warlocks common magic passive?
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>>187492039
The passive got mixed up in the calculator.
Their damage is doubled and their infliction chance gets multiplied by six - from one percent to six percent.

And I need to correct myself: Their LUC is ok, it's just the infliction rate that sucks.
Also their STR is actually workable, it just starts out a bit small. But by the time their growth made it less horrible (in comparison) every other party member was using skills all the time to they fell behind again.

Still, Hawk damage is good because they have skills with multipliers.
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>>187492260
Yes.
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>>187492738
Does open grave still do shit damage then? Or does it stack exponentially with ghost mastery?

Also, do ghosts you destroy also increase the damage of Negative Energy? Or do they have to be killed by the enemy?
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What's the fastest possible way to kill the Warped Savior? Trying out a few things but I'd like to hear your guys' input.
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>>187488549
rii-paa-
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>somebody uses an Arianna OP pic in /wsr/
Today is a good day
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>>187493178
Well it's ok damage - but it means your Necromancer is doing nothing else this turn which makes it considerably worse.

It's comparible to a Fencer that only has two Chain activations - ok overall but not that exciting. You could use the party slot for something that stands on its own feet if you don't build the party around Chains.

And in the Necromancer's case you could use the skill points for something more impactful than ghost slaps in most cases.
Open Grave + Ghost Dance takes double the Necromancers but deals more than tripple the damage so it makes the jump from being ok to being good.

I'm pretty sure Negative Energy doesn't care how someone dies, only that a kill happened.
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>>187493629
It is Arianna but it's not really showing her in a good light.
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>>187493629
>someone else from here goes on /wsr/
anon can we be friends
i'm tired of dumb photoshop requests but can't stop
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>>187493989
The only boards I frequent are this general and wsr. Nothing else.
We are one of soul, brother.
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>>187493201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wAoMK6Yz28
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>>187494747
So that's why Nightseeker is the most popular class ever.
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>>187496149
It's by far the best DPS in 4 once they hit 40 and they are cute
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>>187496149
Nightseeker is hugely RNG reliant and only performs at that level in the absolute best case scenario. In reality, you'll get stronger and more consistent results from a Landy, Sniper or Imperial, and possibly even from a Runemaster or Bushi.
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>>187489253
Looks like a Zombie Nazi.
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I want to hug Bertrand
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>>187498676
Go away Chloe, you're too young for Betrand's meat
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>>187498078
I want to bathe that blonde bunny in cum.
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I forgot this place existed until I saw Ricky on [s4s]
Please forgive me
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>>187499290
but what about dog
>>187499501
>unironically visiting s4s
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>>187499679
It's very therapeutic
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>>187500443
Don't force boxers to become gardeners.
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>>187500891
>not punching every plant in your garden
WEAK AS A BABY'S FART
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>>187499515
>tfw your genocide got canceled
He just wanted to make a difference in the world and take a strong stance against furries.
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>>187500443
>SQ5 first anniversary
It's been a full year?
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>>187501131
>destroying fluffy girls literally made to defend you
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>>187501389
Yes, if we didn't meme the translation to life with neVer eVer it would take even longer
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>you'll never cream a cute, pink masurao
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Masurao >>>>>>>> *
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Right, can we figure out if we can trigger Chain Alls added 9 hits at max WITHOUT using another (dodge) fencer? I can't think of any way to actually hit all of those 9 activations+the 3/4/5 from the chain element skills themselves.

Reapers can trigger 2 with cold ash activating a follow up on ailment bound enemies. Multihit skills don't activate multiple chains and neither does Ice Peck for some bizarre reason. Chain Double at max gives a 40% chance to repeat chain skills so with 3 activations from the other party members plus cold ash scythe we have 5 base activations. Potentially 10 if Chain Double activates all 5 times which is unlikely (0.40^5~10% chance). But even then you'll have 9+3 at minimum so we still need an extra 2 activations.
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>>187489253
I want to protect this twig.
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>>187501936
>massive STR and AGI
>low INT and WIS
checks out
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Any tips to deal against Blizzard King in EO2U?

My party is Highlander, Protector / Gunner, Sovereign, Hexer. All Lv80 already and willing to Rest to reorder my points, especially since Hexer only has Madness and Poison at Lv2. Also for some stupid reason his core is way bulkier than Storm Emperor's and it's really causing me a huge problem. Also, is Mirror Shield's counter electric or did I see wrong?
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>>187502050
Shaman infused 4kat bunnies using normal attacks and rolling 4 hits.
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>>187501936
who the fuck is that
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>>187502331
Mirror Shield is a strange beast.

It activates when Blizzard King falls under a certain health threshold - however there are a few attack chains he can not interrupt for whatever reason.
So if he falls below a threshold but is in the middle of a sequence Mirror Shield will only come out once he is done with that.

Or in short: it sucks balls.
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>>187502050
Does the Triple Magic union skill trigger chains? 3 instances of Fire+Ice+Volt damage to all enemies sounds perfect. Same with the physical equivalent Simultaneous Attack.
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>>187501449
He didn't know that.
He only saw furries and was worried for the mental health of his empire.

What if everyone stops doing their dayjob and just goes around fugging bunnies?
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Himukai ruined the whole model with a stupid facial expression
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>>187502718
Then his shitty empire would be a much better place
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>>187489169
>Goblin warlock

Holy shit why didn't I think of that. Also, have elves always had thighs this plump?
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>>187502050
>Trying to figure out if you can Chain the elemental chains instead of Chain Killer which literally hits four times as hard
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>>187502879
Yes? Elves are only good for slut
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>>187502331
Instead of killing the core you can double up on Ice Walls. Maybe even tripple up to be sure or to rotate who uses the second Wall.

Highlander is a great candidate since Spear Assist is not that much damage so they can spam Walls while waiting for Delayed Charge to land.

Madness Curse is great since panic will stop Blizzard King from using skills.
He is as resistant to it as he is to nearly everything else, though.
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>>187502879
Yes.
Cunny Bunnies AND Elves are made 4 fugg.
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>>187502901
Elf Union skill Chain Blast for all binds and any ailment skill.
Not really much to figure out there.
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>>187502396
That's great, bringing us to 8 base with up to 16 if Chain Double procs all 8 times (0.40^8~0.065%) which is near impossible to happen but obviously with 8 base you'll get a decent amount of activations still.
>>187502640
I think Union Skills act like Burst Skills so occur at the start of the turn before the Fencer could act.
>>187502901
I just like element attacks.
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>>187503092
Just add more 4kats.
But I guess you only want to use every base class once?
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>>187502725
>thigh gap like an airport runway
I guess the artist was really proud of the massive vulva he gave her and wanted to draw attention to it?
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>>187503187
I'm more curious to see the different combos and synergies than anything else. Seeing how multihit moves and stuff like Ice Peck doesn't trigger multiple chains makes me wonder what options they did decide to leave in.
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>>187502998
>delayed charge lands
>it was a mirror shield turn
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>>187489169
How do you make these character creators work? Whenever I go to them I get a blank page
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>>187503078
>>187503092
>Union Skills act like Burst Skills so occur at the start of the turn

In that case: human Union skill that doubles infliction rates, Clinch, any ailment skill
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>>187503529
I had to turn off my adblocker.
I don't even know why that would un-fuck the site, but it did.
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>>187503529
Wait for it to load.
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>>187503993
Are white hairs the blonde of twigs?
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>>187503649
>Clinch
What is Clinch?
Would the combo pugilist multi-bind work?
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>Dragoons Gun Mount preserves the previous turns Guard Skill
Now I'm interested since it won't be spamming guard every turn, it'll be spamming guard and gun mount.

How does Masurao/Cestus/Dragoon/Warlock/Hound sound?
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>>187504604
borderline cookie cutter/10
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>>187504739
What's the cookie-cutter team?
Masu/Cestus/Dragoon
Warlock/Herbalist
?
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>>187504739
Well I wanted to do a chain fencer party but then it'd be Masurao/Fencer/Rover/Warlock/Shaman and I'm not sure if I should go for such an offensive orientated party for my first time playing.
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>>187504597
Yes. That is Clinch.
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>>187504604
With a healing doggo it should work.
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>>187504915
Hmm. HMM.
Do we know if there's a limit to the number of Chain Killer chases? Do you need to use Chain All to proc it multiple times?
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>>187502050
How do you hit 9 chains with another Fencer? The pile on skill? Counters?
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>>187505512
Chain Killer has no limits because it's rather hard to get it to activate often.
It works with Chain Boost, Chain All and the like.
Since Chain Killer has no limit increasing it does nothing, since the follow-up chance is always 100% increasing it does nothing.

Sadly, it doesn't work if several binds are inflicted by one skills - not even things like One-Two which trigger multiple Sanzus.

So you would need the bunny Union skill Spirit Bond to give any physical attack the chance to inflict a bind.
But once a body part is bound you can not rebind it so after one successful turn Chain Killer gets much less fodder.

As for ailments you would need to follow the hierarchy in order to overwrite one ailments with higher ranking ones - all the while you try not to inflict binds with your ailing skills or else you lose a potential activation.

I think they didn't put a limit on it since it's even harder to make use off than the normal Chains.
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So you guys say that Amazon option is better?

I dont trust the "free shipping" anymore ;_;
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>>187507459
Being Polish sure is suffering
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>>187508445
They build a... pile?
That sure is a pretty... pile.
Well done, both of you - especially Baldur, surpreme Emperor of the Drive Blades.
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>>187508445

At least 3DS games are easier to get now since Czech publisher moved in as official one for region. Before that, you could only get them in small private shops that were importing from Czech or Germany (and basically only Pokemons or Mario since if shop would order something less popular like EO for example, it would lie on shelf for months). Imagine how I felt when I finally found EO IV in one after mocking comments from some owers in other ones ("Yeah, we got 3DS games. Pokemons and Zelda. Are there any else?").

But multiplying every price is kinda sad. In case anybody would wonder - right now, 1 EUR ~4,25 PLN, 1 USD ~ 3,55 PLN, 1 CDN ~ 2,9.
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>>187508732
Don't bully boipuccy and his future wife
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>>187509112
Stop complaining kurwa, importing yourself, piracy and digital are always your choices if you live in the middle of nowhere
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How viable is necro for cookie cutter party as heal/revive unit and how its heal/revives even work?
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>>187510257

;_;
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>>187510889
no sad
have hug
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>>187510397
Heal works by blowing up a ghost. But you can summon ghosts outside of battle.

Revive also works by blowing up a ghost but it is only a chance to revive.

Both skills are party targeted.

They work fine but you should have ways to lock the enemy down since they can run out of ghosts.
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>>187511789

Thanks
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>>187512337
Can you summon up to 3 ghosts in the field?
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>>187512720
Yes, you can fill your entire summon line.
Also there is one passive that can summon a ghost if you haven't taken damage this turn and another that can summon a ghost if you sacrifice one.
So they have potentially more than three shots before they need to generate more ghosts.
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Can cestus + reaper work well together? I just like both of those units the most
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>>187513361
One of them wants binds and ailments on the enemy, the other can reduce bind and ailment resistance on the enemy.
Yes, they work well together.
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Do cannon dragoons require synergy from other classes or can I just use one instead of a shield dragoon if I want them to deal a bit of damage every now and then?
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And this is where he realized it was a bad idea to test his daughter's strength.
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>>187514963
They need no other classes to work, the most important tank skills are in the base Dragoon class.
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>>187515315
She is a Highlander, not a Monk!
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>>187515315
And the aftermath. She looks proud.
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>>187516538
Nice and almost clean - I believe the is a tiny smidge left on the upper side of her lower boot.
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>>187516812
I started looking and found the spot. Then I noticed the little triangle between her legs. Oops. Oh well, time to fix
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>>187515315
>>187515809
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Are we getting an EOV demo?
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>>187517417
What's that stump below Miniitake's face?
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>>187519425
Probably since all other 3DS EOs have demos.
But there hasn't been an announcement yet.
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>>187519454
You mean her shoulder?
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>>187520336
Ah, now I see it, thanks.
I was assuming her body was facing forward but it is slightly turned.
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Etrian Odyssey gave me a belly button fetish =(
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>>187522995
There aren't even that many belly buttons in EO.
Also why is this bad? Having trouble finding fuel for your new fetish?
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>>187522995
With comments like these, it's no wonder no one new ever comes here
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>>187523254
I want a Dark Hunter to tie me up and abuse me.
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>>187523254
>>187523258
The games usually take me 60hrs and I'm just staring at portraits with exposed tummies half the time. Ruined me man.
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>>187523258
Dude you should have seen other generals, especially weebs one like vitagen
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>>187523817
You know what? When you put it like that, I like it here. At least we don't get aroused by goddamn buildings! Right?
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>>187524074
How old are these girls anyways? I like to assume teen, but people always call them loli or some shit.
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>>187524074
Only living, breathing stratums.
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>>187524320
It's up to you how old they are, like most other character traits.
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>>187524320
It's anime-rules dude, they're how old you want them to be.
I also heard that loli is more of a body type than an age thing, is this true or nah?
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>>187523679
Same
Then I want her to give me tender aftercare
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>>187517417
what is even happening there
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Hey, I'm finishing up 3, and I'm wondering what I should do with the yggdroid? I never got around to using the class and I'm not sure what to do with it. Compared to the other classes it looks gimmicky as fuck
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>>187526593
Man I skipped that class to, most of its actual skills are element bots or binding limbs to regain tp because the max tp it can have is like, 100 for some fucking reason
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>>187526593
memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPXPqyqyY-w
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>>187525949
Ever heard the term "1000 year old loli"?

The correct definition should be any girl under teen age, from 12 and below and above anything considered toddler.
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>>187526593
They are pretty gimmicky.
And since there are no great grinding spots in EOIII you can just ignore them.
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Who /taking multiple classes to level 10 in the demo to decide between 2 parties/ here?
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>>187528728
>No great grinding spot
I usually walk through the first 4 stratums and kill ever FoE
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>>187528728
Scylla quest.
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>>187528857
>he thinks he would get the demo
>not making characters of every class anyway since a passive exp gain exists and is available quite early, so there's zero reason to not have everyone
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>>187528728
>no great grinding spots in EOIII
It's bugged as hell and there are multiple bug abuse spots for no effort grind
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>>187529180
Like where?
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>>187528728
>no great grinding spots in EOIII
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>>187529273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1iTu3zrLLU
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>Don't want to have to retire characters to bet better stats
.Have to grind FoEs with fortune hammer instead for skill books
Kill me
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>>187527375
whenever they do a EO3U I don't know how they are going to do Abyssal God any justice with a 3D model
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>>187529325
couldn't I potentially corrupt my save/fuck my cart/DS by abusin that enough?
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>>187532712
No
It's fucking ugly anyway so that won't matter
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>>187532870
Soft reset is a harmless feature and all you're doing otherwise is messing with an RNG.
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So um... Do I just start over?
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>>187534697
You could recruit goons, take their stuff and dismiss them.
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>>187534697
Sell all your items and equipment and just get cash from gathering.
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>>187534697
Can't you farm overworld items for cash in IV?
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>>187523258
Nice breeding hips
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>>187534697
>emilia
>not emily
Disappointed
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>>187534697
Making money in EOIV is pretty easy like >>187534880 said, even at the beginning you can have sufficient en for the inn and shop

Who did you fight to have 4 dead members ?
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>>187507459

>Shipping cost 25$

Lol nope.
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fuck north korea for making me worried I won't be able to play EOV
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>>187538619
>after all this time we'll end up getting cucked by nk
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>>187538619
At least we have our own apocalypse with bunny waifus on the horizon.
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>>187538619
>>187538903
>actually falling for the obese doughnuts boy who cried nuclear bomb act
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>>187534697
Run out into the overworld, pick up some food, and return to town without fighting anything.
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>>187538423
My guess is that yellow baboon thing. Probably every person who started with IV has fond memories of it
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What level are people generally when finishing the 5th stratum in EOV? If the 2-2.5 per floor still holds true then 55-60 sounds right.
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>>187540779
Monkeys are assholes.
All of them.
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>>187540779
I really don't remember baboons at all, they hit hard but that's all
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>>187540779
>yellow baboon
>not king baboon
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>>187541735
And people die when they're hit hard.
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>>187541914
When getting buttfucked by picking a boot is a common thing in series getting hit hard is the least of your problems
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>>187541735
They hit hard, they hit multiple people and they take a lot of punishment.
Basically they are like the asshole birds of EOIII. Although somehow everyone memes about the cats even though they at least die fast.
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>>187540779
oh yeah, those things, sure they hit pretty hard at the beginning, but if you have a sniper with arm binds they're not dangerous anymore
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>>187542039
When you're literally new to the series and the yellow baboon is the first hard thing that you will find (other than the FOEs that you're inmediatly and repeatedly told to avoid) then you WILL get buttfucked by them.
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>>187542201
Cats are normal encounter so you get memed harder that if you just fucked up and ran into FOE
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>>187542218
Too bad nobody explains binds to you.
I didn't realize how useful they were until really far into the second stratum. And I had a sniper.
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>>187542396
The asshole birds are also normal encounters - they just are on the second floor. The first EOIII are poison lizards.

And the baboons you get fucked by in EOIV are also not FOEs.
The black haired baboons you get warned about so it's your fault if you try to fight them.
But there are also blonde baboons as random encounters who hurt like hell and can throw rollers at you.
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>>187542791
You can avoid the birds by exploring at night, one of the NPCs in the pub tells you this
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>>187542791
Obviously people will meme about first floor buttfuck enemies than second floor ones
Baboons get ignored because 3babies are way more vocal and because purist faggots hate 4
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Does anybody know why the price for etrian Odyssey 3 seems to have doubled on a lot of websites?
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>finally get around to playing through EO4
>get to the 4th stratum
>the music changes for the better

"We want the Ys audience"
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>>187543868
Well this is the game who's midboss theme is End of Raging Waves after all.
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>>187543868
>implying it's not great overall
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>>187543868
To bad the fourth stratum music fucking sucks.
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>>187544439
You fucking wot m8? The second and third stratum themes are boring then boom you get this cool techno theme with added guitars for the fourth stratum.
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>>187544590
Rather have something that sounds nice, than a jumbled mess of sounds.
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>>187543802
someone somewhere decided to charge more money and others followed suit

happens to any/all games as time wears on and scarcity goes on
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>>187543802
They realised that nostalgiacucks are free money
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>>187543868
I don't really like most of the new music since EO4 onward
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>>187544991
Nice shit taste
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>>187545285
I wouldn't say shit since a lot of those people really like the old school soundtrack of the original 3 games. Maybe outdated taste would be more accurate.
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>>187545423
meme synth is the worst, either get full chiptune or get out
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>>187545423
I actually think his newer 7th Dragon stuff is fine, it's just the Etrian music that sounds off to me. Especially the Untolds and V.
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I heard that the 5th stratum theme for EOV is really good and I want to listen to it but at the same time I haven't heard any of the stratum themes so I'm thinking I should keep it a surprise.
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>tfw I put 2 arcanists on the back row

One puts the circles down, the other dismisses them. Feels good, man.
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>>187542039
The squirrel is the worst. I will never forget that squirrel.
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>>187547986
now that's autism
don't forget to put in 2 bushi too so they alternate deep breathing
>>187548059
>going in with less than 3 "fuck go back" items
you have only yourself to blame
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>>187542774
I went full statuses with my first team for shits and giggles and was surprised when I could actually poison bosses
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>>187548284
>poison bosses
That's not hard though? Confusion/fear and petrify/instadeath are hard statuses there
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>>187548410
No I mean most other games don't let you status bosses at all.
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>>187548410
>That's not hard though?
You don't seem to be aware of how RPGs other than EO operate.
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>>187547986
Seems pointless. Now 2 runemasters I can get behind.
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>>187548463
>>187548518
Compared to other RPGs maybe. Poison is often allowed as well if it sucks in this game
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>>187548410

Etrian Odyssey is one of the few rpgs where bosses aren't immune to status effects, one of the appeals to the series is that it gives players choice.
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>>187547986
I also had two twigs, it's a fun strategy
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What if
EO3U has summon line for bots, clones and animals
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>>187548964

>draw a stick figure, call it a person

Japanese "artists", everyone.
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>>187534697
better get some kneepads
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>tfw the next mainline etrian odyssey game won't reach us in the west till 2019 at the earliest possible time
It's gonna be fun playing through V alongside you guys but I think I'll have to take a long break from the general or I'd go insane with nothing to talk about.
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>>187550289
People that skinny can exist. Like me, at 5'9 I'm only 100 pounds give or take so I'm quite the skeleton. Of course I'm not cute and my hair might be long but not worthy of twintails so I wouldn't make a very good arcanist.
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Would you guys want to be adventurers in one of the games?
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>>187552613
what if i died
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>>187552613
And die horribly to a deer? No thanks.
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>>187552613
I'd probably get killed while trying to take a shortcut
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>>187552613
I'd probably never leave the first stratum
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>>187552613
nope, even sentinels and therians are not worth fighting bullshit without day offs with 1 hour of sleep per day
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>>187552640
>>187552668
>>187552929
I mean would there still be stuff like resurrection? as long as you play safe and don't get a party wipe it should be okay
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>>187553514
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>>187550585
>tfw sadpanda only has one doujin with the arcanist girl

>>187552613

Only if I can be OP like this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYAdDljOKY
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>>187552613

I've read too much sad panda to ever refuse this. Let me die horribly after having lived wholly.
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>>187552613
Anyone here would end up being one of those corpses you find an unopened medica on.
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>>187553802
>implying I'd ever leave the first 2 stratums
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>>187552613

How much customization are we talking? A 1:1 transfer of my obese, balding self, or do I get to be the little girl (dancer)?
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>>187554572
>not becoming /fit/ with labyrinth exploration, monster fighting and healthy labyrinth food
>not shaving your head to become a manly muscular explorer
>not waifuing the half-your-size dancer

Think bigger.
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>>187547859
I recommend you do.
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>>187554891
>You'll never find love on the battlefield
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>>187554891
>breeding with midgets
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>>187555673

otacon pls
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>>187554891
>Think bigger.
Being the little girl is the biggest dream.
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>>187555863
I mean, are there any strong amazon women?
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>>187556112
Probably
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>>187555863
Not my fault you are a manlet.
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>>187556542
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>tfw you are but a mere stick who pines for the soul of a tree
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>>187557758

>No Arcanists in EO5

Feels bad, man
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>>187526593
So but seriously What skills should I do? What subclass do I use?
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>>187559338
I used Yggdroid/Hoplite and it was great because I think they can't get bound. I had to give it a ton of Agi books though, since Yggdroids are slow as balls.
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>>187559338
Either hopplite or pirate. Basically play it as its subclass with an extra trick or two
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>>187559770
Data mine and lady luck both raise critical stuff so it makes a decent tank
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What if EO3U adds Medic as the EOIV class and Monks become punch only
?
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>>187564180
Bushi tanks
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>>187564080
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>>187564080
My wife is such a cutie.
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is there an image with all the V portraits? I want to get names ready
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War revive!
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well I bought my first smart cellularized cellphone telephone in preparation of EO moving to mobile
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>>187575256
shutup teach
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Tits
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>>187575256
You should have bought a coffin because the grave is the only place EO is moving to.
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>>187577207
gross
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will going into NG+ on IV affect the post game dragons? if they're going to get tougher i won't bother, but i really want to replay with a new party
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>>187581381
nope
>>
I've got a question about turn order in Etrian Odyssey 4.

I have a Dancer and a Landsknecht. I want the Landy to move before the Dancer.
Dancer has 88 Agi, Landy has 83 Agi.
Dancer has two swords equipped for -2 speed each as well as Fairy Chain for a total of -5 speed with armour.
Landy has a katana and a rapier equipped for +2 speed each as well as Demon Mail which gives -2 speed due to being heavy armour and then +4 speed for the two speed forges. This gives the Landy a net overall speed of +6.
That means that the net speed of the Dancer is 83, and the net speed of the Landy is 89, which means that even after the RNG speed modifier is added (0 to 5 extra speed), the fastest the Dancer can reach is 88.

With all of that in mind, why does my Dancer's normal attack sometimes trigger before my Landy's link? Do normal attacks have a speed bonus? Do links have a speed penalty? Do off-hand weapons not factor into the speed calculation?
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>>187582895
I want to phalic spear this phalanx
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This is a housewife.
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>>187565646
I don't think so.

But there is this:
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/
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>>187581796
Links have no speed modifier but I believe offhand does not contribute anything besides its forges unless it is used specifically for a skill.

Unless you really want to use a katana skill you could just get an offhand dagger and put some AGI or Spd forges on.
Also if your Landy gets ten AGI books and your Dancer gets none their base AGI at 99 should be the same.
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>>187585502
housewife is vanilla as fuck
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>>187586494
I've only just now realized that having my Link Landy wield a Katana does absolutely nothing for their damage output. Rip. I figured it was the way to go because of its higher damage.

I have been dumping Speed Books into the Landy, but I also want to use Speed Books on the Dancer to get as much out of the Dancer as possible, so I want to know what the maximum number of Speed Books I can put into the Dancer is. Now that I know that I should be using a Sword on the Landy for optimal damage, I may need to revise that strategy and neglect Agi on the Dancer entirely.
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>>187586742
AGI really does not do much for the Dancer.
They have no accuracy problems as is and compared to Fan Dance any evade bonuses they get from AGI is negligiable.

I'd leave the AGI to the Landy and other party members if you get more books to make sure the Linking works properly.

I'n a normal playthrough (even one including the final post-game boss) you won't get nearly enough books to max out everyone anyways.

Btw. have you used the Lexxy's Quest QR code yet?
Killing the boss gives you one of every book.
http://etrian.wikia.com/wiki/Lexxy%27s_Quest
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Wow, Europe isn't getting fucked so hard this time.
We're getting it on November 3. only a few weeks after the US.
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How do I resist the urge to kill myself?
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>>187587805
look up pictures of best girl
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>>187587805
EOV is soon
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>>187587805
Look at Best girl Fangs smile.
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>>187587915
I guess that's as good of a reason as any to stay.
>>187587967
I'll play eo2u in the meantime.
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>>187587915
>>187587967
Also thanks anons, what kind of party do ya recommend for classic mode in eo2u?
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>>187588503
As long as you have hexer, war mage, and a gunner you can't go wrong.
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>>187587179
I've finished everything in the game barring the final boss with 0 chemicals. I can put Fallen One in the dirt reliably in four turns, but I'm still farming the final boss to make the full suite of Yggdrasil weapons for everyone (and save scumming so I only have to kill the final boss 18 times for a full set).

While I was at it, I figured I'd go and autistically farm books. It looks like I may actually need close to 250 books total to max out a single party. RIP me.

Party is F!D, L!B, D!N // R!M, S!B. Runemaster is subbed as Medic for out of combat healing and revival, and because I found the Bushi and Imperial subclasses to be lacklustre.
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>>187588503
These two cuties work well together.
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>>187587805
>Urge to kill yourself
You need to examine why the urge is to kill yourself and not to improve your standing in life.

Even if your life is absolutely horrible, the urge should be to escape your current position rather than to kill yourself.
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>>187587479
Impressive.
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>>187588503
Palm Alchemist, 3 Sovereigns speccing into Link Order, and a Protector.
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>>187588956
Wouldn't a normal Alchemist with Compression and Jars deal more damage and thus create greater Link Orders?
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>>187589519
No idea, I'm just thinking of fun gimmicky party.
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War revive!
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>Came home tired from work
>want to replay EO1 to bring back good memories when i first played the game
>boot up my old DS
>new game
>https://youtu.be/lQcKlQ6iAew plays
>a decade old memories come back
>T E N years ago

i wanna go back
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>>187585502
No
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>>187592490
Good thing War Revive can work twice.
Always learn your War Lore.
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Fluffo!
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>>187593298
The labyrinth is always there for you, anon.
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>>187593943
Comfy - in space!
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>>187586494
After some testing I can now confirm that offhand weapons do indeed alter your attack speed.

Sword + Dagger confirmed optimal set up for Link Landy.
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>>187593298
>I wanna go back
I used to want to go back until I realized how much I'd grown as a person since then. Cherish the memories, don't mourn time's passing.
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>>187587479
No, it's just that both the US and europe got fucked instead of just one, we've never had to wait 14 fucking months for any game
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>>187596221
It's Persona 5s fault. In fact I recall reading that SMT IV Apocalypses localisation revealed Atlus doesn't get the script when localising so has to go through the game manually for each bit of dialogue which is completely retarded. Also explains why that game had a handful of untranslated lines.
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>>187596556
Between this and no dual audio Atlus really smells like the 90's
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>>187596997
Funnily enough they added dual audio to Persona 5 to make up for it being delayed then went and didn't make a dub for SMT Strange Journey Redux. It's quite bizarre and I wonder what exactly is going on. Until recently they had been in the no jap audio but decent dub boat but now they're all over the place. A shame we didn't get the jap audio for EOV.
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>>187596221
Don't worrry, next game if it ever happens will have to wait for two years at least, don't you want to remember those blessed ps2 times?
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>>187597153
Come think of it,we don't even know how many voice options we're getting for character creation.
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>>187597513
We'll know around the 15th when those dorks at Atlus stream EOV and hopefully the demo will be out as well
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>>187596997
Remember this is the company that region locked Persona 4 Arena on the ps3 when it's the ONLY game on the ps3 to ever have a region lock simply because they were worried about mass importing of the Japanese version because it was cheaper at the time to do so.
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Here's a question: does Untyped damage ignore the opponents TEC / WIS in its damage calculation, or just their elemental resistances?

Does a player character with high TEC take less damage from opposing Untyped attacks, in the same manner that TEC reduces magical damage taken?
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/eog/ give me some non autistic names, I've spent the last half hour trying to think of good names for my EOV party
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>>187588710
>R/I
>lacklustre
>not using A/M instead of R/M
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>>187598129
I pretty much just use cute sounding girls names. Don't judge me; Asahi, Hikari, May, Serena, Chloe, etc. Playing IV makes me want to use Logre on the one male guy on my team.
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>>187598129
http://www.behindthename.com/random/
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>>187598094
obviously resistances only, the entire purpose of untyped damage is that it works the same on everyone
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Alright so something must've changed because watching DeepSilvers Warlock trailer they have this at the end showing the artbook as also being available for us EU peeps. Hopefully I'll be able to get in touch with the retailers and find out who's guaranteed to have it.
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>>187598271
>R/I isn't lacklustre
Imperial gives Element Boost and some TP recovery. It's almost nothing. TP Boost from Medic serves the same purpose, so you're only down Element Boost which itself has a shit ton of diminishing returns with all of RM's other passives.
>Not using A/M instead of R/M
I'm using RM for the multi hit to proc links and, more importantly, for Ice/Fire/Volt Rune. I considered Medic/Runemaster, but then decided that was stupid and I should just run RM main for the extra damage.
I only need the RM for out of combat healing, Fortress with party shield and Dancer with Regen Waltz + Healing Step (I had a bunch of leftover points) gives me more healing than I could ever need.

I have a Sniper who can bind, but the team is a min/maxed endgame team so the only fights that can give me any trouble are Fallen One / WS, and I don't like relying on RNG binds to save me. I have an A/M sitting in reserve that I can use if I really need it. I think it's a 99/99 A/M, too.
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>>187598554
>book says the art and sound of adventure
>no soundtrack
Nani?
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>>187598363
>Hikari, May, Serena, Chloe
>All names of pokemon protagonists
;)
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>>187598094
TEC does not care about the element, it cares about the stat the attack is based of.

If it is an untyped/almighty TEC attack, it gets reduced by TEC.
If it is an untyped/almighty STR attack, it gets reduced by VIT.

The only thing special about untyped damage is that almost all enemies take 100% damage from it.
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>>187598859
>Almost all take 100%
Which ones don't?
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>>187598738
They drew the sound, of course.
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>>187598828
And a dog.
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>>187598936
>drew the sound
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>>187599361
For deaf people.
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>>187599361
Why are Cunny Bunnies so incredibly stupid?
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>>187599735
To balance their high STR and AGI.

Also who in their right mind would even try to develop a technique build around wielding four katanas at once?
That is a feet only available to people too stupid to know what is impossible.
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>>187599735
Don't need to be smart when you're stronk
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>>187595041
Space Dandy narrator voice:
>Space Comf. She's a comfy girl - in space.
>She combs the galaxy unlike her hair on the hunt for F.O.E.s
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>>187600334
>Space Dandy
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>>187600108
You absolutely fucked my brain with that phrasing.
>Also, who in their right mind would even try wielding four katanas at once? Only someone too stupid to know what is impossible would attempt a feat like that.
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>>187600482
>who in their right mind would even try wielding four katanas at once
Well, any race can do it now...
But only bunnies were stupid enough to develop their own teachings based around the concept.
That is some advanced stupidity.
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>>187600442
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>>187600108
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AchievementsInIgnorance
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>>187600610
Beyond simply learning stupidity, they were able to teach it to themselves.
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>>187600745
Hey bunnys are super cool!
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What EO game can I play in my computer?
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>>187601030
EO3
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>>187600929
Yes - but also dumb.
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>>187601030
The first three are super easy to emulate since DS emulation is stable and simple.

The never ones are a bit more tricky but it should still be possible to make them work.
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>>187600929
I don't understand why that other Therian in the background was edited in.
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>>187601418
I don't understand why it is clearly the generic male Therian with female ears.
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>>187601568
I don't get it either. I should the girl(male) joke applied to sheep?
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>>187593298
I can't bring myself to replay my copy of EO1. That would mean saving over my Guild and all the progress I had with them.

Can't bring myself to play EOU1 either.
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>>187601030
the stop being poor and make money to buy 3ds game
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I wonder just how they'll be able to remake End Of Raging Waves in the eventual EO3U seeing how we've already got IV, EMD, V and 3s super arrange versions of it at this point. In any case, it surely can't be anywhere near as bad as this is https://youtu.be/p7PTX3gmHcU
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Who the fuck is that
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>>187603997
Looks like some breath of fire character.
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>>187603847
>EOV's End of Raging Waves was a remix of EO4's End of Raging Winds
>EOV's End of Raging Waves FM version is an FM remix of an arranged remix of an arranged remix of an FM remix
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>>187603997
Fuck man, I wouldn't know
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>>187604447
no one unironically used a male warmage ever
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>>187598554
Man the USK logo is so ugly. Thankfully the UK version doesn't have it. I think all first print copies will have the artbook. It's not till they reprint it after release that they won't include the artbook so you should be good.
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>>187604553
I used the butler War magus in my main team and the Shaman warmagus in my B-team because I can't stand Fangs and the dudes had a better pose.
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I want to preorder, but I don't want the English voices, do ya guys know if I'll be able to patch in an undub into the cart? Maybe I'll just download a copy and let the cart alone
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>>187605269
You can turn the voices off by default in the options of you want. I'm sure an undub will eventually be available on whatever rom site 3ds cias are found on but it might take a few months.
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>>187605420
I guess that'll do
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>>187605163
Woah woah. Do you know where you are?
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>>187605163
>I can't stand Fangs
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>>187605550
Did you honestly expect that everyone who plays this game does it for the lolis?
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>>187606331
Fang is more than a loli. Fang is love, is smug, is life.
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How can you not love this?
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>>187606331
>pretending cute girls are not the major reason why you picked EO
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>>187607124
Because I have this
Unsprisingly there is very little fan art of the male war magus' compared to the female ones

>>187607464
I came here by way of Strange Journey in order to satisfy my desire for more handheld first person dungeon crawlers. I stayed because everything about this game is great.
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>>187607661
>smtfag is gay
pottery
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>>187607852
>fangfag thinks that not liking his meme character means I don't like women
I'd say I was surprised by your shit taste but I'd be lying.
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>>187608156
>phalanxfag
>talking about shit taste
The ironing is unreal
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>EOU
>powerleveling a noob recruit in the 3rd stratum
>fight a rare servitor ant
>by sheer happenstance, the noob is left alive with my alchemist who gets the killing blow
>shared exp between 2 people
>noob leveled 7 times
>tfw
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>>187608258
Sorry, can't hear you behind all this armor. Maybe you should get a Hexer to make you useful or something.

>>187608379
There is literally nothing to talk about and people are still sleeping, I'm just bumping the thread.
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>>187608379
Fine, no more arguing about girls.
What's the best skill and why is it Protect Order?
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>>187608343
>he never knew the joy of 4 guest characters and shiny foe+holy gift
>>187608379
Gunner is the second worst girl right after nene
>>187608496
>phalanx
>talking about being useful
the ironing grows stronger
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>>187608546
>What's the best skill and why is it Protect Order?
I'm actually partial to Fusillade with the condition that I''m running a meme team filled with Arbalists and Buccaneers. I know that Blitz Command is better, but just the idea of ordering everyone to shoot a guy is fun to me.

In general EO3 has some of my favorite classes and abilities in the franchise.

>>187608684
>>phalanx
>>talking about being useful
Do you not value protection in in the early game?
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>>187608156
Inferior Hoplite. This is the one to love.
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If no one else gets around to I'll do it myself but we should change the OP to read "EOV releases October 17th for NA, November 3rd for EU." Maybe even add that NA gets the artbook and mini soundtrack whilst EU gets only the artbook.
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>>187609025
>protection in the early game
Hoplite gets even more important as the game goes on as even random encounters throw around strong TEC-based elemental blasts.
The best damage characters have shit for TEC so they need the Anti skills to not continiously die.

Must be some advanced memery.
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>>187609862
>posting this 3 days early
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>>187609862
>mini soundtrack
Let's not exaggerate. It's at least four sound tracks, not just one
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>>187610391
>atlus's face when the disk only has one track which is the yet another arrangement of raging waves
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>>187610881
>put a handful of tracks on the soundtrack
>don't sell the soundtrack through official channels
BRAVO ATLUS
R
A
V
O

A
T
L
U
S
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How many Fangs should I have in a party?
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>>187614274
Fang has one fang so one fang will be enough fangs.
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>>187615310
So which Fang portrait is better, EOU or EO2U?
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Do any of the 3ds EO games have better performance on the new 3ds? I'm thinking of replacing my current xl.
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>>187616086
Anon...
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>>187616086
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>>187616189
>>187616389
Fuck, I'm retarded...
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>>187616116
No EO has any performance issue on older systems.
EO is light on hardware requirements - at least for what a 3DS is capable of doing.

They did manage to strain the DS, though. But there was not enough added since then to make a 3DS sweat.
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>>187616116
If you only play EO old XL is sufficient
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>>187616954
>>187619568
I see. I had hoped there would be even a small increase in loading time or something but that's fair enough. I do have pokemon/SMTSJR and a reasonable backlog so I'll have to see.
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>>187620965
Pokemon do profit from new as the animations become more fluid and horde battles lag less. New 2ds xl should be pretty cheap to consider, 3d is a shitty gimmick anyway and is used like never.
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>>187622495
>3d is a shitty gimmick anyway and is used like never
Spoken like a scrub
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>>187623352
>3d
>anywhere near useful
spoken like a shill
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>>187623535
>shilling for a dead console
I'm not the one promoting the most rrecent model™
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>>187623535
I bet if Camelot ever shit out Golden Sun for the 3DS it would have gimmicky puzzles that could only be solved with 3D on.
I swear there was already a game that did this. I can't remember what it was though.
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>>187623783
>promoting
sure
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>>187623876
One of the Mario games had small puzzles that made little sense unless viewed in 3D.

Also wasn't there a 3DS Golden Sun and it sucked?
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>>187625617
DS. And it was meh. It didn't really suck - it was just "okay."

>but muh continuity
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>>187625617
It was Dark Dawn on the DS. It definitely failed to improve on the previous games, or even match them.
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>>187626320
>>187626329
Fuck, it was that long ago?
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>>187627560
yes
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>>187619568

I dont know why or if this happens with other models but when I played on my N3DS XL with EO IV for more than 2-3 hours, my eyes would litteraly bleed (red vertical stain across my left eye to be more precise). I thought that this was related with 3DS in general but only EOIV gave me this problem. And I was playing without 3D mode.
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Is it finally possible already to pre-order EU versions of EO V? If so, where?
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EOU question.Does frailty (hexer) + dilution (alchemist) stack? I want to pour on as many heavy -def buffs as possible.
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>>187629773
Neneposters must be executed
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>>187629773
UK peeps have been able to order for ages now. Amazon UK/ShopTo/365Gaming/Shop4World/Argos/GAME/etc. Afaik Amazon UK have it the cheapest at £27.99
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I need my bunny waifus right now
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>>187630172

Overall 30,8 GBP with shipping...

>>187630082

Whats wrong with Nene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qA8lv4lmTE
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>>187632401
Oh are you getting it delivered to somewhere in the EU? Best check your go to shops or give em a call. Do you mean £38 or £30.80? The latter is pretty good still.
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>>187632717

Amazon UK claims that shipping to my country will cost at least 2,8 GBP.

>Music / DVD / Blu-ray / Software / Video Games (excluding consoles) - £2.80 per delivery + £0.40 per kg.
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>etrian odyssey 3 for just under £40 new
A-am I a cuck for thinking this is a steal? I'd totally buy it if it weren't for the fact I'd rather wait and see if they'll make a EO3U.
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>>187629867
Yes, they do.
Buffs and debuffs stack freely but every character only has three buff and three debuff slots.

There are some slight diminishing returns in EOIV, EOU and EOV but only in EO2U are they so strong you have to worry about them.
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>>187632924
Well £31 sounds pretty normal for 3ds games to me, unless in your country the games are usually considerably cheaper?
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>>187633039
>cuck
You don't need to use those words here. It doesn't even make sense in this context.
It's a bit much for such an old game, but I guess scarcity adds to the price
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>>187633039
It was $20 CAD a few years back and it's only going to get more expensive from now on, so pick it up if you really want it.
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>you realize with regret that your pack is full and you cannot hold any more items
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>>187633039
The game is out of production, so just get it on a $10 flash cart /play it on emu unless you wanted to collect all the games.
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>>187633276

No, they usually cost a bit higher than that.

I would miss out the soundtrack tho ;_; I can get either US or EU version to be honest, my 3DS plays both.
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>Live in EU
>Just going to play the US version with my modded 3DS for region free goodness
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>>187635761
Well the soundtrack is only a handful of tracks if that's any consolidation. Still, if the US version is cheaper then go for that one.
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>live in Mexico
>really want to preorder the launch edition because I love EO and want those sweet bonuses
>no preorders in any store
>not even on Amazon

Being a beaner is suffering.
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>>187635932

I didnt found it cheap to be honest. Sure, US Amazon sells for 40$ but shipping cost 25$ at minimum for example.
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>>187636602
you don't have to pre-order anything, all first print run copies come with the bonuses, just get a copy within the first month it's out and it will have them guey
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>>187630172

Does UK version gets the artbook too?
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>>187638831
Yep. See;
>>187604696
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>some pages of an artbook
>4 tracks of the OST
They're feeding us cold scraps and we're eating them up like delicies.
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>>187639427
they've always done this
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>>187639427
Well being a britbong it's 24 pages more than I'd normally get so I'm not complaining. Not like the game would be cheaper either.
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>>187640160
I will keep complaining, I want the books Japan gets.
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>>187640579
Wasn't the Japanese book also tiny for EOV?
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>>187640771
Depends on your concept of tiny.
If it's "smaller than a 3 year old kid" then yes, it was tiny.
If it's "smaller than the average book" then no, it was a fuckhuge behemoth with about 200 pages.
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>>187641297
I don't want any artbook that weights less than fifty pounds.
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>>187641914
thy would you want an artbook which is 1/8 of your weight?
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>>187643631
Looking at all the pretty pictures to deal with the post-EOV emptiness we all will be facing.
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>>187645204
END
OF
THE
LONG
MYTH
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poor gunner-chan...
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>>187646030
Why troubadour has a crown?
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>>187646030
>>187646565
Teach is getting crowned to be used as a royal sacrifice.
When the non-fox 7th Dragon Samurai comes for a visit it's always something very serious.
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>>187646743
That's sarashi though, she's nothing next to second best samurai
Also 7th dragon's knights are way better than teach
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>>187646995

Funfact: Teach aided Dragon Hunters during their adventures in 7th Dragon III.
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>>187647925
>teach gets put in the worst game
serves her well
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>>187646995
So it's Sarashi wearing the Samurai's kimono.
Teach is getting sacrificed to a dragon.

I don't think the dragon will like her.
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So a while back I started to think about making a Sci-fi Dungeon crawler set in some Dyson Sphere or super structure and borrowing mechanics and concepts from EO. Had a handfull of classes on paper and a couple suggestions were either to fix old class concepts, and stop whole handedly stealing classes from other games *cough*EOIII*cough*

One thing I would like to see is the return of a tactics based class like the Shogun. However, I feel like for command abilities EO3 already covered all the bases with what commands can be issued.

>Target gains increased ATK, Lowered DEF, and act first for X turns
>Target gains Increased DEF, Lowered ATK and act last for X turns
>Row will counter incoming enemy attacks
(Seen again in later EO titles through Dancer and Fencer)

>Allies with specific equipped weapons fire on target
>Everyone attacks with equipped weapons
>Causes everyone to try and escape

I wanted to create sort of the opposite of the Shogun in some respects. Instead of making a front line class with command abilities, high damage potential, and the means of surviving death; make a back-row buff class that also works around issuing orders and providing buffs with comparably limited damage output. Conceptually the Commissar from WH40k.

The general rules of attack commands in the series is that characters only uses equipped weapons. You can't command them to use a skill though unless it's a passive associated with normal attacks. Altering turn order also is covered. And moving people between rows is no longer necessary since movement has been a free action since EO3.

I don't want to just copy past these skills (minus retreat I think that can be removed to fit in with the class concept of never falling back). And the other set of skills I have in mind are buffs. I guess my point is a shameless soliciting of help.

Are there any other command or tactic based options you would have liked to see?
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>>187648889
Remove dragons.
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>>187648889
Yep, think the poor thing is gonna get dyspepsia for years. No wonder they are so angry and try to destroy everything
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>>187648372

III was not that bad, anon. Sure, didnt had the party creation depth like first 7th Dragon but it was fun anyway. But I gave up at post-game last boss, it was too much.
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So you guys say that I cant dig in and be tanky turtle in V anymore?
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>tfw not sure whether to grab and complete EO2U Classic or Yakuza 0 in September
Opinions?
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>>187648961
>make a back-row buff class that also works around issuing orders and providing buffs with comparably limited damage output.
You could include the draw/reduce aggro type of skills (Go defend the back row! Standby out of enemy range!). And speed buffs as well as attack/defense (Faster you fucking peasants!) You could also look at the skills from V's Hound, since they're commanding their pets.
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>>187654603
>Faster you fucking peasants!
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>>187654731
Dauntless Order is my favorite.

DID I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO DIE, YOU GODDAMN SERF?
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>>187654883

Please, I started to hear LORD Commisar right now.

>YOU DIE ON MY COMMAND, NOT BEFORE
>FASTER, HARDER, MEANER, BETTER
>I DIDNT GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO DIE YOU COWARD, ON YOUR FEET
>FOLLOW MY EXAMPLE OR I WILL MAKE YOU ONE

Glorious.
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>>187655225
>YOUR YELLOW LIFE BELONGS TO THE GOD-EMPEROR, YOU WILL NOT DIE BEFORE HE COMMANDS IT
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>>187655225
Skill that gives attack priority to 3 allies but damages the 4th.

I WILL SHOOT THE LAST MAN TO ENGAGE THE ENEMY
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>>187648961
Well 7th Dragon replaced princesses with hackers, although admittedly relatively little of what they did was reminiscent of hacking, other than "Make enemies attack each other" which is something Hexers already had in EO. I actually think the Hexer line mastered most of the "command enemies" in the fear tree, only thing to further that would be to make them all-out Beastmasters and command enemies to buff or heal you, as if they were charmed.
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>>187656786
Speaking of 7thD I'm still waiting for EO to make a Genocide Task class for a berserker party.
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>>187648961
I strongly suggest adding a Gass meter for each party member, similar to a Boost meter.
For every healing item that they eat multiplied by the time spent dungeon crawling, it will accumulate.
The explorers tummy sprites will inflate as gass grows, and you can unleash it to debilitate FOE type enemies for a few turns.

Please let me know if you decide to incorporate my ideas because they aren't free.
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Wait a minute, do they gut the art book for the usa preorders?
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>>187660138
Always. The "first press bonus" is just a preview of the actual things. Which you can't buy anyway.
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>>187648961
>Sci-fi
>tactics based class like the Shogun
>back-row buff class that also works around issuing orders and providing buffs with comparably limited damage output.
How about psi flayers? Instead of shoguns you should look at 7th dragon princesses - buff tree with stuff like hypnotizing suggestions to increase attack/defence/regen/whatever, command tree with stuff like turn order switching, making one allied unit move twice for the price of someone's else turn and hijacking enemies to debuff and to pick targets for their attacks and offense tree with low damage psi blasts which also put statuses like panic and fear on enemiesm then commanding enemies with those statuses or dealing big damage to them (thing hexer's fear tree)
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>>187661212
I wonder why they always use those cool covers for the previews and lame ass covers for the actual OST.
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>>187656786
Me with the fox ears.
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>miiverse goes ded
Nice sign of 3ds going dead soon as well, who wanted EO3U on 3ds? You aren't getting shit with like 90% probability.
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>>187663179
We (Japan) get a new EO title every year on average. I could see them fitting another one in before the 3DS discontinues in 2019.
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Either I'm misremembering or something happened because I can no longer warp to the 6th stratum in EOIV. I can still access it just fine through the golden deer pub. I can't warp to the 5th one either...
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>>187656292
I actually was considering adding class abilities that sacrifice the targets HP to perform certain actions or allow them to overcome certain status ailments. The only problem is I feel like the trade-off would not be worth it when you could in the same turn I actually was considering adding class abilities that sacrifice the targets HP to perform certain actions or a loud and overcome certain status ailments. The only problem is I feel like the trade off would not be worth it when you could in the same turn use an item or another class class to remove that de-buff. The example I had in my head was if a characters arms were bound, you could use this ability to temporarily unbind their arms for one turn. But that would have to be the next turn as the game does not allow you to select abilities while that part is bound.

Your idea however is interesting.

>>187656786
>>187661561
>7th dragon
I see this game mentioned in these threads often, for somebody that has an original DS and a PSP which game in this series should I look into playing? I see you compared to a etrian Odyssey and I could use another Dungeon Crawler right now.

I'll also give a look at the classes
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>>187663420
>implying it won't discontinue mid 2018
>>187663453
Maybe it's a bug, both 5 and 6 have geomagnetic poles
>>187663475
>which game in this series should I look into playing?
Only the first one is good
>I see you compared to a etrian Odyssey and I could use another Dungeon Crawler right now.
It's not a dungeon crawler, it's a normal RPG but otherwise it uses EO mechanics for like anything.
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>>187663420
you think so? PQ2 is probably coming out next year and then later for non japan, do you think they'll be able to get an EO out that will also be translated before 2020?
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>>187663453
When you go to board the Airship, instead of boarding the airship select the option underneath it.

It messed me up for a bit when I started playing again because I completely forgot that you could enter dungeons directly.
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>>187663475
>I see this game mentioned in these threads often, for somebody that has an original DS and a PSP which game in this series should I look into playing? I see you compared to a etrian Odyssey and I could use another Dungeon Crawler right now.
7thD is not a dungeon crawler, but it has Niinou Kazuya as the lead director. The first one plays like EO if EO were a 3rd-person JRPG. The party building in particular was really similar to EO and there was a ton of fun stuff to be done (http://7thdragon.wikidot.com/party-making). After the first game it becomes a lot less EO-ish.

The early games don't have official translations, but there's a guy who made an English patch for 7th Dragon and 7th Dragon 2020 and he'll probably do 2020-II eventually.
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>>187663475
All the 7th Dragons are pretty mediocre really. The first one is literally "damage tiles:the game" and has an annoyingly high encounter rate. The English version has it patched to be lower, which just makes the game easier than it already is because the challenge came from managing TP and HP because of said encounter rate, damage tiles, and Dragons (which aren't nearly as dangerous as FOEs, but fighting one at the wrong time can leave you without resources earlier than you would want).
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>>187672927
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>>187671878
What is Farmer trying to farm?
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>>187672927
Jokes on you I always hunt at night.
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>>187674410
melons
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>>187675324
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>>187675324
But nin nin is flat...
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>>187676169
All the more reason for a Farmer to tend to the crops.
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>>187676169
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>>187672927
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>>187680235
Is this treason?
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>>187682032
AAAGHHHHHHHHH
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nin nin is getting ninned in her nin.
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Last thoughts about this idea for a commissar-style class

One way or another I want to bring back Terror as a status effect. Not to the same end as the hexer but this class also inflicts ailments

I think that giving Stun, Paralyze, and Terror to the Commissar fit the concept. (With stun being a single target ability, terror being AOE) Causing enemies to hesitate or outright stop their advance. As well as the ability to alleviate these effects or maybe other mental status effects like Sleep, Panic, and confusion from the party. (Wake the fuck up and hit the enemy Soldier!)

I also wanted to, and liked the suggestion, to make the class have abilities that are a double edged sword. Originally this would include some skills having a chance to inflict status effects onto the team as well as a result of "pushing" them too hard. Mechanically this could also mean that for some buffs, the more you have active at a time for a given row, the more likely you are to inflict confusion onto that row. maybe the speed buff automatically hits everyone with a limited duration speed debuff at the end (like one turn). The possibility of also forcing allies into the terror status effect as well. Also having abilities that hurt allies for tardiness or for other conditions.

The main takeaway from this discussion for ability ideas has been
>Possibly force other allies to take hits for a character
>possibly Influence enemy aggro based on rows
>Double actions at cost of next turn and other turn altering abilities
>Decide what buffs the class will use
>Figure out if/how class will interact with enemies

The general idea behind the setting is a frontier and lawless settlement on this megastructure. Lots of criminals, deviants, and people who want to keep their pasts a secret. This class is the "disgraced military officer" no-one knows where they served, or why they left, but they get results in the field although their methods are seen as extreme.
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>>187685586
How many nins could a Nin Nin nin if a Nin Nin could nin nins?
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>>187685701
Also I'll be looking into 7th dragon classes.
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>>187685757
About nin, give or take a couple nins.
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>>187685701
You could have some skill that sacrifices an ally to give huge buffs to the rest of the party. Problem is it's hard to balance between "broken" and "useless".
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nen nen
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>>187686297
Nene go away.
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>>187686367
Nene is here to stay
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>>187686297
I want a blonde, blue-eyed Fencer, but I can't decide on which portrait.
I like long hair and ribbons, but Nene just looks so happy.
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>>187686509
Just remember;
Nene is bene.
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This is the fate of all Nenes.
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>>187652387
Dragoons work like a Protector.
Defensive Shamans can buff your defence and your health.
Healing Botanists have a passive overheal that doesn'teven take a buff slot (but only stays in effect for one turn).

You can make your party super tanky, you will just need to have enough TP restoration to not run out before the boss is dead.
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>>187690830
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>>187690830
>>187691130
Store bought vs. self made writing.
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>>187686471
>vol. 16
Which doujin is that?
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>>187691130
>cute reaper(monk) telling you you died
I wouldn't mind.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezxsY7FcZFk

Tomorrow...
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>>187695635
Can't wait for all the pixiv art!
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>>187695635
I definitively forgot it existed.
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>>187695780
Farmer and his sheep seem to get pushed quite a bit (for someone that isn't a cute girl) so hopefully we get more of him and Shiitake (the grown up one).
They are cute friends.
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>you get a mansion but you cannot sleep there
>you get a maid but you cannot sleep with her
Why did they even bother implementing that?
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>EOU ant queen
>1st attempt i tried caution, got gangbanged trying to destroy the nests
>2nd attempt i blitzkrieg her head-on and win

S T R A T E G Y
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>>187699731
You can destroy the nests and if you are doing it right there is no risk.

But if you have the damage to blitz through you really don't need strategy.

Usually ant queen is a resilient bitch - did you have a good party or were you just overleveled?
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>>187695635
>翠緑ノ樹海
>two kanji for green
>翠 (midori)
>緑(modern midori)

Fucking what? This is why I hate Japanese sometimes, sometimes EO really feels like a fucking chore to play through
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>>187700181
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>>187699895

probably overleveled, my party average is 40. i like my maps precise so i spend a lot of time backtracking the floors.

it was the first time i bothered with items, kept bravants & amritas on my ronin and spammed swallow strike. protector was provoke/front guard, alchemist was analysis/ice strike, hexer was grimoire poison dust and debuffs, medic was a medic. fun fight.

i think my party setup is decent, only my ronin gives me issues by dying so often.
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>>187700474
Holy crap you're almost twice the level you're supposed to be. That's more than a bit of backtracking.
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>>187700474
Damn dude, you're suppose to be level 40 by the time you hit the 3rd floor of the 4th stratum
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>>187700474
I'm usually 28 to 32 when facing the Ant Queen so you were quite a bit above that.
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>>187700474
Do you map each floor three times over?
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>>187700474
>i like my maps precise so i spend a lot of time backtracking the floors.
Your first EO?
It sounds like you are a bit inefficient with your exploration.

It's something you learn with more experience - which in turn makes boss fights harder and more exciting.
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>>187700806
>almost twice the level
That's a bit much.
25 is a good level for the second boss and Ant Queen is around 30.
I don't think you could stand up to the random encounters in the third stratum in the low 20s.

Bears hurt like hell.
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>My Highlander Instant Killed a Curse Knight with Head Pierce in her filler waiting for Delayed Charge
God damn I wasn't expecting that.
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>>187701495
RNG can be alright, sometimes.
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>>187701598
I wonder what the % chance for that to happen, because god damn I just won the lotto considering how early I am into the stratum.
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>>187701495
I remember thinking that the Deer in EOU's first stratum were unreasonable easy for an FOE and that they were just hyped up for no reason, it turns out that I actually just got three consecutive Instant Death procs with Head Pierce.
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>>187701093
Maybe. Certainly twice, I find doing all the finer details at once to be pretty cumbersome, but doing multiple passes over time is fine by me.

>>187701096
Yes.
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wake up
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>>187702976
But all that awaits me when I am awake is a world without Nin Nins.
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>>187699704
>you were born but you're a useless neet parasite
Why did your parents even bothered giving birth to you?
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>>187704457
Low energy post
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>>187701096
>chore is more exciting
can this meme die?
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>>187704457
Be careful not to cut yourself on all that edge.
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>>187704589
It's eco friendly.
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>>187704625
Picnic player detected.
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>>187697741
Is Shiitake in EMD2?
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>>187704625
A bossfight that you are not completely overleveled for is no chore - at least outside of EO2U.
You have to get to know what the boss does and properly react while also dealing damage or controlling what the boss can do.
There is action and reaction and at the end there is success.

Why even play video games if anything that you don't steamroll is too much trouble?
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>>187704823
Nope, sadly not.
I hope we get some "I wish you were here" kind of things with farmer boy and Shiitake.
They were kind of popular for a while.
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>>187704828
I wasn't talking about being overleveled, i was talking about the ebin meme "the more you're underleveled the better, it's so fun being fucked'. Bosses have specific level ranges they're best at.
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>>187705142
An level 40 certainly isn't in the range for ant queen.
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>>187705142
And I was talking about not being overleveled.

I only go back once or twice per map as well as the beginning of a new map to get quests.
But I am not underleveled.

When I started playing EO I was often overleveled because I went back so often and bosses were often just kind of there.
Now I like them a lot more since they have some difficulty to them.

Except for EO2U - damn those HP sponges for making way too many party compositions non-viable if you don't want to go down to Standard for boss fights.
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What's the best way to build a nightseeker? Haven't actually used one before and I've got no idea whether to focus on throws or blade skills
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>>187705575
max out spread throw and auto throw and decimate random battles with ailments
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>>187705575
max venom throw and spread/auto-spread, max the attack boost on ailment, max paralyze and blind throws, consider also maxing the final blade skill
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>>187705575
Both since you need the ailments in order to deal damage.
For the most part their early game will always be underwhelming and they only get going at 40.

Your best bet is to get Sand Throw up high since not many enemies are resistant to it.
If you have a Runemaster and Ice Rune Ice Blade is a great damage skill.

At 40 you want Venom Throw, Auto-Spread, Follow trace and even Swift Edge so build towards all of them by having everyting after Sand Throw / Ice Blade at a low level.
Or just Rest once you hit 42 (since Resting costs 2 levels).
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>>187695635
I'm looking forward to seeing how much they've improved the formula from the last game.
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>>187708172
It's looking fine right now but I am still worried.
The Pokemon MDs got worse and worse as the years went on...
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>Carry over map data?

THIS IS HARDER THAN IT SHOULD BE
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>>187709502
Well I dunno, Explorers of was an improvement on Red/Blue and then whilst GtI was a step down Super Mystery Dungeon was quite an improvement on that. So 2nd game>4th game>1st game>3rd game.
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>>187709502
Well, you can't really get worse than EMD1.
So far it looks like they have fied some of the most retarded behAIviors, but stuff like amber rush seems to still be there.
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>>187709897
>Well, you can't really get worse than EMD1.
PMD or vita weeaboo knockoffs
>stuff like amber rush seems to still be there.
git gud
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>>187710034
>git gud
At running? I would if my party weren't so retarded.
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>Playing EOIII with Buccaneer/Hoplite/Monk/Ninja/Zodiac around lvl 22
>Exploring second stratum while looking for Olympia after she tried to kill me
>BF8, find a shortcut and was "oh nice, a treasure room maybe"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4rpvS6LBSA starts playing
>Olympia appears and sends an Abyssal Death to me
>party have mid HP and TP
>mfw

I still beat it tho, but that took me by surprise
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>>187711932
It's a nice curveball.
But the game did warn you and show you before that she is not messing around. Only this time the FOE trap was more direct and you could not just walk around it.
So it's fair in its unfairness. Or something.
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>>187711932
>look for the person who tried to kill you
>you find her
>she tries to kill you again
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>>187713189
Someone milked that gator
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>>187711932
>2013
>loved EO2 to death
>get a dozen replies saying the 3 is even better
>have a lot of doubts that I'll like it as much
>get to the Olympia betrayal in stratum 2
By this point I stopped lying to myself and admitted that this game is fucking great. It really was the peak of storytelling and puzzle design.
I'm still partial on the sea exploration itself, but the sea quests were a nice added flavor.
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CANADA ~
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Honestly, how likely do you guys think a eo3u is? Seafaring with updated graphics would be glorious.
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>>187714123
There sure is a difference on how western and eastern people draw humans
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>>187714001
MY
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>>187714637
DOG
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>>187714637
RUBBER
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>>187713189
Well, I did know that the next time I meet her I will have to fight, but like I said I thought it was a treasure roll like in BF6 and BF7, and there weren't any warning like "you sense a terrible aura coming from this direction"
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>>187714798
NENE
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>>187714932
I'd ____ nene without a >>187714798
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>>187715092
Naughty like this etrian.
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>>187716286
"I don't think blondes can get more bland than Ricky."
Himukai: "Hold my Medica."
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>>187716694
And thus that random guy was proved right.
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>>187716996
But Himukai really made an honest attempt to create something even more forgettable.
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When Mota is finally going to replace Himukai?
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>>187716694
"Nobody would be dumb enough to try and take on a superboss dragon on their own, especially not the dragon that seems to actively hate people."
Wealh: "Hold my spear."
"You don't have a spear, you lying bitch."
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>>187716694
But Himukai outdid Ricky's blandness before Ricky even existed.
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>>187717715
Never.
Since there will never be another EO after V.
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>>187717850
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>>187717730
that's a weird Raquna
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>>187717730
I'm never gonna be able to use that portrait am I
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>>187717730
Anon, that's actually a bit clever.
How long have you waited to use that line?
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>>187718341
It's an NPC.
She ded.
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>>187718454
that's bullshit how come I never get to use cool portraits like that on my lineup
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>>187718616
Because she is smiling.
Explorers have to be grim or at most smug.
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>>187718898
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>>187719278
Those are some nice feet
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>>187719278
who is that slut?
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>>187695635
is that the EOU arrangement for III's first stratum essentially or am I mistaken
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>>187719424
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>>187719663
true explorers don't laze on a beach and sit in the labyrinth 23/7
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>>187719278
post twitter link
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>>187719787
That's why she is only in EMD.
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>>187719951
they don't even sleep there
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>>187720074
They laze around in the forts all the time.
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>>187720215
They train in forts though
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>>187720271
They leach XP from hardworking Protectors and their braindead followers while lazing around.
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>>187721107
>using protector in EMD
And in fact they get more or better distributed exp because i had forever fort fodder being higher level than my actual party
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>>187721285
>not using an immortal unit
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>>187721368
>using a waste of slot when landshark is better, especially on DoEs
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>>187719663
Fluffy chan is superior.
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>>187722053
Of course she is.
I was just answering the question.
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ded
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>>187725371
ded like a 4kat bunny after getting attacked once
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>>187725371
Cute bunny. Speaking of which my friend had a bunny but at one point a thunderstorm was happening in his area. The bunny got so spooked by the lightning it had a heart attack and died. Let's hope therians don't end up like it.
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What's an Etrian?
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>>187725790
Considering how shit their WIS is, they'd probably die too if put anywhere near a lightning
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>>187725929
well if you get hit by lightning you're gonna get deleted either
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Dumb bunny
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>>187725836
Don't tread the dark path, turn away as soon as possible.
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>>187726084
>she'll never dumb you
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Protector needed for EO2U or can I leave healing to Fang and focus on offence?
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>>187727301
Walls are incredibly helpfull since bosses have fuck-off damage.
Buzt you can give Grimoires to anyone and with the new trading system you don't even need the class itself to generate Grimoires.

The paste-bin has a large selection.
Keep in mind the Walls needs to be at least at 5 to fully absorb the damage and negate any additional effect of it.
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>>187727301
You can go for control as your defence since Hexer is so super strong it's scary.
And you can build a rather strong frontline with War Magus, Landsknecht and maybe Highlander so Front Guard is not as important in random encounters.

And with Wall Grimoires you can easily forgo a Protector.

Or you just use a Beast, use Fang as half damage, half heal and have everyone else go full offence sinde the Beast covers them.
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>>187727491
>>187728429
Cheers. I was thinking of going War Magus/Hexer/Dark Hunter/Gunner anyways so maybe I'll add Highlander to the mix and grab those wall grimoires.
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>>187709695
>you could carry Map Data
>but it will remind you where you died against a random encounter
>you will feel like a filthy casual
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>>187728624
Dark Hunter is rather fragile, I don't think they will survive much without someone helping them out.

You could use a Beast since later on your Gunner also wants to get into the frontline for Point Blank -> Burst Shot and they are even less sturdy than Dark Hunter.
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>>187725836
An adorable pile of cuteness.
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>>187721578
>implying you can't have both
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>>187727301
>class needed on game?
No. No class. For any game.
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>>187733883
Are Bandana and Teach friends?
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>>187734430
I like to imagine they are.
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>>187734430
>bandana
...I just realised I've been saying Banana this whole time instead.
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>>187734430
They have the same hair color, maybe they're relatives.
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>>187734464
I'd like to think ImperialTeach is a distant cousin to the real one, which gives Bandana and Teach something in common.
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>>187733883
you can't because you have 4 slots and protector has no space there
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>>187735432
1.Protector
2.Landsknecht
3.Useless bitch that will get stuck in the hallway #1
4.Useless bitch that will get stuck in the hallway #2
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If Etrian Odyssey came to switch couldn't they use the joycons to be able to map whilst in docked mode ala the wii remotes? Heck even the ps4 has a way to use it as a motion controller for typing.
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>>187735689
>he can't use 3 characters manually effectively
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>>187735862
Why the fuck would anyone want EO in docked mode? It should just be made handheld only.
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>>187736036
Well no harm in giving the option. I know I'd play docked for boss battles and stuff.
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>>187735862
At that point I'd just put up Auto Map. The more tedious they have to make Map Making, the less I want to do it if it ever comes to the switch.
Map making was fun in the DS-3DS because of the controll you have with Touch screen. You don't really have that with the alternative as it becomes more of a fight of controls than making a map.
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>>187735862
fuck that, they just need to ship the game with graph paper and sticker sheets
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A proper 7th dragon game when
EO x 7th dragon when
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>>187736036
Some poor souls out there use automapping.
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Just beat this big whale of Ketos, surprisingly enough having a LV1 Hanging on my Buccaneer was really helpful

too bad it used Great Melody when it was low and killed in the next turn my monk, buccanneer and ninja, but fortunately was killed with motherfucking Nikudan
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>>187737913
I'm sorry for their loss
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>>187737913
Hopefully not browsing this general
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>>187739757
I wish a cute princess would kill me.
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>>187739757
>not a single bad princess portrait in 7th dragon
>not a single bad prince(ss) portrait in EO
Coincidence?
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>>187741060
Of course not.
Princesses are just awesome.
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Sorry for asking once again but:

1) Do you guys think its worth to pay more to get this OST in addition to artbook?
2) Which one of those four options would you recommend:
A) US version preorder for 55 CAD + 7.5-25CAD delivery fee (plus artbook & ost)
B) US version preorder from Amazon for 40 USD + 25$ USD delivery fee (plus artbook & ost)
C) EU version from UK Amazon for 28 GBP + 2.5 GBP delivery fee (just artbook)
D) Waiting for local shops to get EU version for unknown price (most probably 150-200 PLN or 35-46 EUR if you wish) without any bonuses.

Again, sorry for being so undecided and asking once again ;_;
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>>187743274
Get either EU version - this way you can be sure that regionlock can not fuck you over.
Unless you disabled regionlock on your system.

I don't think the few tracks the bonus OST offers are worth to pay more to the shipping company - it's not like Atlus will ever see any of that money.
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>>187744262

>Unless you disabled regionlock on your system.

Actually I did.
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>>187743274
C sounds like the overall best option considering the soundtrack will probably just have 6 tracks on it.
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>>187743274
1.Not at all
2.c or d
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>>187737945
How can such a fat fish evade so good?
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>>187716286
My new wife
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>tfw only find one of all the voices we've heard so far cute
Slight worry
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>got the payment request for EMD2 today

It's time (to not play the game and just look at the artbook)
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>>187750517
Well, it's about time since it realeases tomorrow.
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>I had to give my party members names like “Fight” and “Heal” just so I could recognize who should do what in battle.
What a scathing review of the original Etrian Odyssey. I half feel like doing exactly that and naming 2 of my party members Fight and Heal to give him the middle finger.
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>>187753123
That says more about the reviewer than the game.

Not to mention that renaming characters costed money in the early titles and I bet he did not have the cash to afford that early in the game.
So he named them this way from the beginning because he knew he was retarded.
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>>187753532
Seems that way. Here's the full review:

concept : A return to the cold and lonely days when games didn’t really want you to succeed
graphics : Generic character portraits and ugly environments fail to be charming
sound : Unremarkable (though not bad) all around
playability : A high difficulty and lots of repetition aren’t big selling points unless you’re looking for punishment
entertainment : Anyone who grew up on more recent, enjoyable RPGs will have trouble (but no fun) adapting
replay_value : Low
score : 6

There was a time when I couldn’t even play a game without a piece of graph paper by my side. In classic dungeon crawlers and text adventures, knowing your precise location often meant the difference between life and death. Despite the advent of auto-mapping technology, Etrian Odyssey attempts to go back to these ancient conventions – but it loses the nostalgic charm along the way.

Using the touch screen to draw and notate your own map is a fun and natural fit for the DS, but the game built around this function is clunky and unforgiving. Making players do boring fetch quests in areas they’ve already explored isn’t a good way to keep them hooked. Don’t count on the story to keep you going, either; since you create all of your characters, and they are totally interchangeable and anonymous. I had to give my party members names like “Fight” and “Heal” just so I could recognize who should do what in battle.

If you have fond memories of the hardcore dungeon-crawlers from long ago, this title recreates that experience well. I have nothing against games that hearken back to old-school sensibilities, but Etrian Odyssey just feels like an outdated game that snuck onto a modern console.–JOE
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>>187753739
I wonder how he even plays other RPGs where characters aren't so pigeonholed.
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>>187753739
>Anyone who grew up on more recent, enjoyable RPGs
Ah yes, the great and enjoyable landscape of DS RPGs.
The Worlds Ends With You, Pokemon, Mario and Luigi - and a fuckton of remakes of SNES games.

You know, I am all for letting people have fun with games their way.
But I have to wonder if someone that so blatently hates games, effort and putting effort into games should be a reviewer.

However I give it to him that the original EO had terrible quests.
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>>187753739
>sound : Unremarkable (though not bad) all around
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>>187754536
TWEWY is fucking Kino to be fair. I still feel pain remembering that countdown.
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>>187754536
>The Worlds Ends With You,
This and Radiant Historia make it all worth it though. I agree otherwise it's not much of a RPG-laden handheld.
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>>187754671
Meme synths are actually bad though
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>>187754756
>fucking Kino
Is that good or bad?
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>>187755197
Orgasmically Good.
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>>187755197
Kino is for loving tenderly, not for fucking.
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>>187755132
I remember being hyped about RPGs on DS because of how it could simplify menus. Biy was I disappointed.
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>>187755252
Good to know.

>>187755132
There were good RPGs on the DS for sure - but its a bit wierd singing praises to "modern" RPGs when there were so few that weren't remakes.

I wonder if this person got confused when Dragon Quest IX forced you to create generic party members that have to change classes.
Or if being able to make anyone a Healer in Golden Sun was too much for them.

I'm surprised he did not mention grinding which would be a great point to hammer home how untimely oldschool EO is.
But then again, he probably didn't even make it to the 3rd floor.
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>>187755132
>not much of a RPG-laden handheld.
Is this bait?
>contact
>sands of destruction
>rondo of swords
>knight in the nightmare
>FFTA2
>2 kingdom hearts games
>digimon world
>soma bringer
>srt og saga: endless frontier
>a ton of ports and less important stuff
DS had a crapload of RPGs, too bad 3DS ended up sorta disappointing overall and extremely disappointing in rpg department
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>>187756197
Who wants functionality in their RPGs?
Those are all about having the best graphics!
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>>187757140
Sorry, you should follow the conversation. I meant GOOD RPG-laden.
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>>187757215
Nice shit taste, is EOIII your favourite game?
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>>187757306
Fuck off Teachfag
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>>187757160
Not like we got much of that either.
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>>187757306
You're going to post a list like that and pretend other people are guilty of shit taste?
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>>187757140
>FFTA2
I always wanted to get into those but sadly I am too stupid for tactical games in which you alternate with your enemy.
It seems they always have enough people in a row to completely fuck me over while I get to use one character at a time - or a second character that is out of range for anything.
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>>187757487
Not my fault your taste is trash or you hate videogames
>>187757559
So abuse it - set up the units so weak targets cannot be reached and AI has to fight strong units first (and it will), soup up frontline units so they can hold off fine and heal them from behind
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>>187757451
Well, yeah - because DS was no graphical powerhouse.
So the RPGs went to the PS3.

I can understand it for action RPGs since they do look better, smoother and more impressive all prettied up.
But turn-based RPGs on home consoles just got silly after the first Playstation and the push towards 3D.

Watching your party and the enemy stare at each other from different camera angles is unsettling at best.
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>>187757140
>rondo of swords
>contact
My man
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Fuck you Yggdrasil Core you are the worst fucking boss go die you piece of shit dumbass necrosis spamming shitlord mother fucker tangling ray spamming shit ass 1 hit KO armageddon fuck ass demon rush hitting my back row fucking dumb bitch pattern switching bull ass shit boss fuck you.
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>>187758450
>rondo of swords
Is that the one in which you have to run through enemies?
I was also too dumb for that. How do you protect anyone of the fighting system is running through people?
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>>187758925
MIKE wanted to protect us from this fight.
And look at what he got for it.
Never trust Ricky.
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>>187758925
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>>187759160
It is, and it's one of my favorite SRPGs.
Main ways to protect squishier characters are either going full offense and killing a bunch of enemies in a single turn or using tanks with ZOC like Serdic to make chokepoints. Accounting for enemy movement range is also important.
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>>187759479
Between this and >>187758108 I think I'll dust off my emulator until I can finally get my bunnies.
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>>187759710
I actually made an FAQ for it to shill it to my friends because even though I love the game, it can be stupidly obtuse.

https://pastebin.com/mDjcTXf7
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>>187759284
>>187759476
He's a fucking vagina
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>>187760185
>You can send a unit to the market with gold and they (may) come back with an item.
oh no it's miitopia

Just kidding - thanks, I will look through it.
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>>187760224
He's a cunt
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>>187760224
>primevil
>is a vagina
>vaginas are primevil
Damn, MIKE knew all along that pussy was evil and we blew his railguns up instead of letting him do his job.
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>>187760224
>>187760491
With teeth.
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>>187760484
If it's any consolation, most of the items you get from shopping are not very useful, and you can beat the game without ever shopping once.
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Hey guys I'm trying to get some Tsunami Fangs in 3. Does the tiger exploit work or am I going to have to fight him my self
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Greetings, adventurers. Have some hot tea.

No, I am afraid you cannot lodge here tonight. I will be receiving guests from the BLACKED guild, please understand. I have prepared arrangements for you at the Rooster Inn.

I shall happily await your return.
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Help. I just can't beat Blizzard King in EO2U and I'm about to give up. Why in the world did they make him way stronger than Storm Emperor? I'm even considering using a whole different party, I can only deal half of his life before Hexer's binds and ailments stop working and he kills me. I even have several Lv10 Grimoires and still nothing.

Party is Hi/P/G/So/H
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>>187762525
>BLACKED guild
delet this
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>>187762525
>please understand
Go away Iwata, you're not fooling anyone
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>>187754536
>Ah yes, the great and enjoyable landscape of DS RPGs.
I mean my DS was basically an RPG machine. Especially FPDungeon crawlers there were at least 4 franchises that delivered entries EO included. And while Remakes could be a complaint, a lot of them were complete overhauls like the FF games, or augmented releases like Chrono trigger.

Strategy RPG's also really came to bear for that console. I think the DS is a fine RPG machine.
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>>187762854
>Go away Iwata
Please stay Iwata. Kimishima is a greedy asshole.
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>>187763392
>>187763392
>>187763392
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>>187763465
>15 posts earlier
>fucking nene
Delet this and make a proper general
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>>187763465
No
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>>187763465
> Not Fang
End yourself.
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>>187763465
You're 20 posts and 5 pages too early.
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>>187763814
Gib link pls.
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>>187763814
Well time for this thread to die if we've reached this point.
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>>187763814
Jail when?
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When will Fang start a new thread again?
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>>187763983
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60208278
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>>187764176
sluts don't deserve threads
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>>187764549
Nobody wanted to make a thread for your waifu.
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>>187764549
Fang is not a slut.
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>>187764605
too bad, then we won't have to deal with a slut or nene thread
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>>187764674
sluttest of sluts
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=512134
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>>187765169
Behead those who insult Fang
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>>187765661
>truth is an insult
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In EOI are there 3 buff and 3 debuff slots, or are they interchangeable?
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