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Shitposter BTFO Edition
previous thread : >>186385105

>General Guide: READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jgBAK0htg7nt_P3H0Ulw9V6XeuQHjy6rZwV-K_04Oqk/edit?usp=sharing

>Quick Links
Database: optc-db.github.io
Calender: https://optc-agenda.github.io/
(NEW)Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q_a03TCozmtsC681ExLOfYd79Rc0XVuSoAAU3hd8Ww/
(OLD)Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10KAi-2_4V2mq6E42UrVk1ktpZlfXFG9soh_biYoNkM/
Add Yourself: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdYsJghfg_Eu_IgUAcEkuALfc1-XUNzG0a__0L4ILyat2r5g/viewform
Drops & XP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bA2WG0RFy9Nz_NF0H3z5uXwLflKkhAYm9k8dutOT0k/htmlview
PLVL & Stam: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eFGzsAvxwwwUJ77XLq62XZIUS_usqhQBkFw5rrS48I/edit#gid=0
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>one piece games general

you were so close
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>>186784279
that is the correct title, don't be a retard
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>>186784552
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>>186784481
Why is Nami such a slut? Is there something she won't fuck?
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Can someone put up a Gaimon or a rainbow dragon/penguin friend captain? Also stop false-flagging as me fuckwit
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>>186784703
Sanji
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>>186784552
Fuck off
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>>186784941
What the fuck are you trying to do?
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>>186785419
Orange Town missions, I only need Mission 1 (rainbow evolver FC), Mission 5 (Gaimon FC) and Mission 10 (4 star Mihawk FC) and I've completed them all.
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>>186785694
>doing missions
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>>186785867
>playing treasure ruse cruise
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>>186785867
There are no books I can really farm, and I'm too low of a level to do the raid. Also it's free gems for the upcoming sugo
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>>186784703
Me .... :(
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So I can beat easy raid Mihawk but not the hard one, Is it possible for me to beat easy raid Sabo?
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>>186786128
You're better off doing the rookie fns for story strawhat books even if you have to do lower stamina versions
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Friendly reminder to save your snails for tomorrow when the Meat up event goes live
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>>186786241
>>186785217
Little white dicks are out of the question.
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>>186786497
I can do the 30stam Smoker fine, should I just keep doing that since I can socket my G-5 and normal smoker if Tashigi drops.
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>>186785694
Still need these captains bro?
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>>186787016
Yeah man, I'll take any you have
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>wake up
>no Pudding
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>>186786560
aw yeah
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>>186783453
GLOBAL

Colosseum
>current rotation: Chinjao, Kuro, Ms Valentine, Alvida, Apoo, Ben Beckman

Raids
>Aug 20 Sabo (YWB)
>Aug 21 Heracles'n+Usopp'n
>Aug 24 Duval
>Aug 27 MChopper

FN
>Aug 15-29 Summer girls, Smoker-chan
>Aug 15-22 returning: Mr 2, Marguerite, Revolutionaries
>Aug 22-29 returning: Hogback, Perona, Young Arlong
>Aug 29-Sep 05 returning: Camie, Breed, Rumbar

Event
>Turtle rush Aug 25 PSY, Aug 26 DEX
>Aug 22-26 Rayleigh with tomes
>Aug 22-29 Neo Aokiji
>Aug 22-28 Meat Snails and Special up x2

JAPAN

Colosseum
>current rotation: Orlombus, Smoker, Moria, Machvise, Kid, Paulie, Gin, Binz, Alvida, Rebecca, Wyper, Shura

Raids
>Aug 21 Enel
>Aug 25 Shiki
>Aug 28 Pica and Tesoro
>Aug 29 Akainu

FN
>Aug 08-22: Neptune and Fukaboshi
>Aug 22-Sep 05: Sugar and Trebol
>Aug 17-24 returning: Tom, Tontatta, Sengoku
>Aug 07-28: TS Summer Robin, Aug 14-28: TS Summer Nami
>Aug 24-31 returning: Soul King, Law, Hogback
>Aug 31-Sep 07 returning: Shirahoshi, Wanze, Marguerite


Event

>Aug 21-24: Turtle only FP sugo
>Aug 21-27: Super Success x2
>Aug 22-27: Evolver quests half stamina
>Aug 21-28: Double drop on punk hazard 2, and half stam on 1
>Aug 21-Sep 04: Anni Sanji manual island, chopperman missions
>Aug 24-28: Strawhat island
>Aug 24-28: 20th anni SUGOFEST
>Aug 24-Sep 04: Anni Zoro isle
>Aug 27-30: Special up x2
>Aug 30-Sep 04: Super succes x2
>Aug 29-30: Cola cavern
>Aug 31-Sep 04: Colored evo materials isle
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>>186787120
Lycaroth Pirates here. Almost certain I've got you.

I'll chuck up a rainbow dragon first, let me know when you need Gaimon.
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>>186787423
stop giving attention to shitposters
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BUILT

>>186787367
>that image
DELETE THIS
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>>186787573
I'm going to farm her just for that artwork
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>>186786924
broke ass niggas need not apply
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>>186787423
Sorry, I'm a retard that confused hermit crab with armoured crab so I did it twice, ready for Gaimon
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Got Sabo as my legend from the event. I guess it's fine since he is still a good sub for g4. And it's not a dupe either so there's that also

>Tfw only missing Shanks to finish the psy shitter legend club
+Evo for sengoku and law, when?
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>>186787012
If you can you should do the buggy fn since 5+ Luffy is one of the best f2p captains in the game
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>>186788521
Sabo+ as a captain is fucking amazing. You got yourself a Free Spirit lead.
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>>186788431
He's up.

I don't have a base Mihawk sorry, but if I remember next weekend I'll grab one, unless somebody else here has him.
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>>186789216
I doubt anyone else would put him up even if they did.
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>>186788798
I know he is fine, but I probably have way better lead to bother using him. Even when I need a free spirit team, usually a free spirit/fighter team with G4 will be better. That's what I did for Kai raid.
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>>186789216
Thanks for that man, got it done. Don't worry about the Mihawk, I can have it as well but I fed all my ones from the weekend before I read the fine print on the mission, so I can just grab one myself on the weekend.
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>>186789706
No worries, happy to help!
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Has anyone tried to do the math on what's more efficient for farming, double law or double haruta? On one hand you need less refills to get a level up for a free stamina bar, but on the other hand if you get the drop you want duplicated, that's basically a free run.
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>>186791761
There's no real math. It's just up to you on what you rather want, level ups and everything it cones with, or risking it with the double drop.
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>>186791761
Double Haruta saves 30 stamina every time you get an extra drop that you need, so he is much more useful than Law
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>played a little Dokkan when they had their 2nd anni
>haven't touched OPTC since except to do a multi on that all gold sugo
>got absolute shit in that sugo

I want to come back to OPTC but having played Dokkan for a few months I'm really struggling to want to. Dokkan gives you constant rewards for literally nothing and now I can't bring myself to work for rewards. Convince me to come back lads, I already like OP a lot more than DB anyway.
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>>186793838
Dokkan is also 100 times more P2W and grind than OPTC
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>>186794201
>P2W and grind
They're literally giving out 20 stones a day at the moment. Since i moved over there hasn't been a point where they didn't have ridiculous login rewards and some kind of ongoing event for more rewards. I haven't spent a dime on it and I have almost every good unit despite not being that lucky with the pulls. There's also nothing to grind since special ups are either guaranteed or 50%.

That reminds me: did GLB ever get the base skillup increase or are we STILL waiting on that? If that got added it's a big bonus for me coming back.
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>>186794539
we didn't

also, why do you need someone else to convince you? just look at the state of the game, and decide whether it's worth your time or not
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>>186794629
By convincing I mostly wanted a lowdown on what I'd missed. Is there any hope of getting the increase in future or has everyone given up hope? I know I missed neo raids, are they ever coming back or did I miss out for good? Anything else new?
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>>186794539
>Playing global
Found your problem
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>>186794825
Only Bandai knows. Neo raids will come back in the future 100%

We got chopperman missions, most of the stuff up to 7.0 in JPN, like super evolutions, stamina overflow, YWB and Shanks invasion, better inventory sorting, permanent Mihawk raid during weekend, 2 returning raid and 3 returning fortnights per week, etc.

What we don't have yet is JPN skillup rate, and guaranteed legend/3 multi sugos, and also stackable skillbooks, but that last one should come out during autumn.

Also some new Limit Break mechanic is coming out to JPN this September
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>>186794539
>F2P
>Almost every good unit
>Not that lucky
Pick 2.

Dokkans gacha is a complete and utter fucking shit show. 90% of the things you pull is completely useless. On top of that he gameplay is the most dull of any gacha game I've played. And jesus christ the UI is horrid. I actually like Dragonball and haven't really watched/read much One Piece, but I don't understand how people play Dokkan. It's a terrible game.
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First Rayleigh started slipping as a golden captain because of his burst couldn't handle the health
Then Ace started slipping because 2 turn bursts can't work everywhere
I hope Doffy will last me...
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3 multipulls garunteed legend sugo when?
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Coming up, Dressrosa and Colosseum!
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>>186795198
Yeah I was around for the YWB and shanks when they first started and the Supers and shit. I think I left just after Neo Mihawk was announced but definitely before he actually landed. Saw some shit about people saying to wait on the Chopperman missions until we get the EXP ship but last I heard GLB still doesn't have the 20th anni celebration yet?

>>186795563
>got at least 1000 stones F2P within the space of about 2 months
>discounted multis plus a free multi after every 3 constantly
>currently a banner with EVERY dokkan-fest exclusive unit pre-SSJ4s featured
>friend saw me playing and within a week his account was as good as mine, still F2P
>FREE LR GOKU EVENT available at the moment with a shitload of bonuses to make it easier to farm for him as well as a shitload of rewards for getting him and maxing him out

The gachas are absolute shite but the amount of pulls you get definitely makes up for it. I totally admit that TC has better gameplay and UI. Dokkan is definitely a more casual normie friendly game with the amount of instant gratification and turn-brain-off gameplay which is why I find it so difficult to come back to TC.
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>>186796012
Motherfuckers gonna be a 3 parter
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>>186796012
6+ Doffy sugo soon
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40 sabos
27 boas
21 ywb
17 chimichanga
4 shanks

They are even at 25%
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I havent played much at all since the Anthology. Im gonna have to catch up hard, huh?
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>>186795769
You may need to do Doffy + Fuji for some. Stuff but Doffy/Fuji driven is still top tier in Japan you just don't hear about it as much because it's been awhile since they got any new toys
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Please guys put some 5+Zoro/TSZoro/Dexhawk in your captain slots.
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>>186796032
The complexity of TC gameplay is definitely the main reason it's not played as much as the other gacha, most people just wanna collect the characters from the IP and not worry about gameplay
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>>186797573
I will after this run. Fc?
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should i farm normie sabo if i want to farm kai sabo? every guide seems to use him for fighter teams
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>>186796094
4 parter

pre-cage dressrosa&greenbit
colosseum
doflamingo castle&underground lab
caged dressrosa
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>>186797156
A sample size this small is pretty irrelevant.
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>>186797736
it is the main appeal for me, but I can see why other people wouldn't like it
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>>186798493
If you have teams to farm Neo Sabo and want to gamble on global going full retard and dropping it on us in the next few months then yeah.
But obviously we have no idea what global will do.
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I cant believe Thatch is fucking dead...
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Has anyone gotten any skull other than blue during this ambush event? I got 5 skulls, all blue.
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>>186800527
1 red 2 blues
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>>186799350
Believe it!
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>>186800527
>10 WB
>0 skulls of any color
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>>186798936
I am using this team to farm him. It's been pretty comfy so far.

Making sure Diamante's special runs out when Sabo activates his pre-empt is the only thing I have to watch for.

http://optc-db.github.io/damage/#/transfer/D1085:99:100:0:0,838:99,860:99,870:99:100:0:0,924:99,999:99:100:0:0C1,10B0D0E1365Q0L0G0R20S100H
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>>186800937
I'm >>186797156 so you can calculate
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Is colo Kuro actually worth farming?
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>>186802183
I'd rather farm Valentine to use with the Dutchman and Neptune.
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>>186802115
Thats all well in good, but you realize neo Sabo is restricted to shooter, fighter and cerebral right?
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>>186802330
I'm pretty sure he meant for regular Sabo
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>>186802183

Colo Kuro is a straight upgrade of Slasherdile. He's pretty good alongside Raid Mingo.
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>>186802115
Is Diamante really worth candying?
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>>186802621
If you are done with legends I would say he is a good RR candidate.
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>>186802406
why did he respond to a post refering to neo sabo then?
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>>186802972
I don't know, but that's clearly a team that would work for regular Sabo
just saying
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>>186802434
who still uses slasherdile anymore?
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>>186803097
Hes great
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>>186803097
exactly what I was wondering
it's like saying "farm this character because he's an upgrade to story Arlong"
he might be, but... who uses Arlong in 2017
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>>186803097
Well, sometimes I need an INT beatstick. He pretty shit now though.
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Is having a good unit with 4 fully socketed sockets still a commodity these days? Or are some of yall still subbing in beatsticks or unfavorable units just for sockets?
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>>186804725
Maxed AH is an absolute must, you simply can't go without it. Bind/Despair depending on the content, and the rest is pure comfort.
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Can someone put Brook up? pls
001.163.972
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>>186805741
Which Brook?
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Fug I really wanted to pull when Neptune is rateboosted but this sugo is literal shit.
Global getting cucked once again.
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>>186805884
the zombie ones
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I'm getting invaded what seems like ever other run on Sabo/How, but Chinjao I was lucky to get an invasion every 5-10 runs.

Like 50% to 20% invasion rate for that small 10 stamina difference. Bullshit.
And no more Colo invasions for the duration of this rotation too, how wonderful Global is at managing content.
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>>186805990
It's really frustrating that every random JP sugo is the same level (or better) of global event sugos that happen like 2-3 times a year.
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I forgot invasion was going on. Can I YWB with
>Sw Ace caps
>Z, Boa, Heracles'n, and SW Franky
Im pretty sure Im fucked
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>in a few days my condition will change from "I will never pull shirahoshi" to "I will never pull shirahoshi while other people have her"
Just kill me famalamsenpai
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>>186807009
Don't be a sad cuck and do a multi, if you don't pull her THEN you complain.
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>>186807894
Just like my Japanese doujins.
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>>186807894
BLACKED
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>>186807894
That elder turtle is a cuck
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Now that theres 20 different levels up in extra island, I have no clue what is more important to farm. I mean raids and colo first, but there are fortnights I never got to farm past getting the gem when they came out because of shit I was farming. I dont care about collecting RRs as much but ffs I just want to finish my fn Hina or farm sockets off the summer event without Margueite running simultaneously
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>>186808545
>Swasreich has Akainu

Why does everybody half my plvl have better legends
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>>186808801
They already have you, so they know they dont have to give you good shit to keep playing.
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>>186808801

Shoulda pulled during the akainu sugo
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>>186809005
I'm 8 multis in a row with no legends so far. Just end me now
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Any global player been getting the choppermans done every week?
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Interesting, so there are 2 kinds of SH books; ones with the + evos as the bigger pic and ones as the smaller
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>>186809374
Yeah it's impossible not to unless you don't play daily
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>>186809217
Should be anytime now
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>>186784481
will this nami come to the english version? i need it
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>>186811574
Next year
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>>186809629
I could see people not completing it because of the evolution one. Some weeks you just have nothing to evolve if you don't go for pigs.
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>revolutionaries will end soon
>only four barto books
>koala sockets are still shit because no drops
>Took a break for sabo
>probably won't get a single level up
and I'm pulling for sure next sugo even if it's bait, I have 150 gems and I always feel like saving up only leads to dissapointment. Fuck gear 4, I want something new now and I'll get chakas
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How do you refresh your own captain for your friends to use again? Do you have to relaunch the app, like if you do if you want to refresh your own friend list?
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>>186814675
run anything. i usually jump into a forest and quit. for then to see it they have to refresh the app, though.
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>>186814675
Options and then return to title.
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>20 Sabos
eh that'll do for today, fuck this raid and all the YWB invasions
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>>186800527

Got two red skulls and one blue.

Really wish that they had put 6+ Sabo on global for this event, not looking forward to having to grind again the next time Shanks comes around.
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>>186813386

I had been waiting for the revolutionaries to come back for so long, and they just happen to come back the same week as G5 Smoker and Tashigi, new colo, and ambushes. Fucking RIP Koala and Hack.

At least G5 Smoker and Tashigi has been dropping nice amount of books I need.
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>>186813386
I wish Koala got a summer girls FN. Her droprates are godawful.

I hope Don Sai's droprates aren't this bad.
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>tfw I actually don't need anything of the million things currently going on in Extra Island
>tfw Colo is never going on when you need it
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I just got back into this after a couple of months and for my first pull I got this version of Garp. Is it good?
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>>186820064
she does has a summer girls FN
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>>186822045
Sorry for the image quality btw.
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>>186822113
That's a Limited RR.
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>>186822045
>plvl 23
>photo
>pulling 2 days before a sugo
is this super bait?
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>>186822113
That's a special RR.
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>>186822194
I'm meant to say that Im getting back into this game and i started a whole new game a day ago. I also didn't know there was gonna be a sugo fest until now.
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>>186823220
it's literally the first news when you open the game
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>>186822165
>>186822207
oh yeah, you guys are right.
Fucking Bandai
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>>186823448
Well I guess I wasn't paying much attention then. But I got him when the game forces you to pull your first character.
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>>186822113
Why do they draw specifically Koala's chest so perfectly
I'm supposed to be gay
Fuck this
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>>186822045
He's an amazing captain early in the game.
He's 2.5x to Red and Yellow, and you'll be starved got decent f2p captains for those two colours for a long time.
His special is a super useful problem solver for a lot of stuff too, it normally does enough damage to clear barrier'd mobs, and you can't go wrong with a delay.

For this early in the game you've basically pulled one of the better things you could.
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>>186825190
I got Story/FN Kuro for my first pull and my best friend got Arm Point Chopper.
You're doing just fine, amazing first pull.
He'll blitz you through the story, and you can socket him pretty easily later
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More crew slots when!?
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Only a few more hours until skill up. Box is full to bursting at this point.
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>>186832243
>Stares 22 Shambles Tashigis
Please max please max please max
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how y'all gonna socket chinjao
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>>186833023
>implying i can even farm him
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>>186833023
Autoheal/filler1/filler2
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so 5+ luffy is a free G3, fucking hell this is bullshit
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>>186836140
whats bullshit about a good F2P unit?
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>>186832243
Yeah my box is bursting with my 5 fucking croc skill books
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>>186837372
wow we have a rich one here, check my 2 books
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>>186837372
>>186837460

>Have Borsalino
>Hear from JPN players how rare his books are
>Get two levels off Almightys
>Not comforted at all

Can't wait to not get that single level after two weeks of farming.
At least there'll be Qckhawk books.
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Skillup goes live in 5 hours right?
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>>186837676
Pretty sure it's the second Super Success leaves.
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>usoppun and heracles-un

did they announce this shit?
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>>186839287
>4 Usopps to Socket
>Never did max Heraclesun
Fuck, pls no
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>>186839287
I don't think they did. It feels like they came out of nowhere.
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I have a question about jp. On a monthly average, if you do absolutely everything the game has to offer, which includes your daily login, all the copperman missions, new content, literally everything, how many gems do you get? Its at least 50 right?
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>>186839643
there is no magic number, it depends whats going on but 50 a month sounds around right you get 30ish just from daily logins
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>>186839353
is it even worth maxing heraclesun? I think I'll just try to do it once and be done with it.
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To this day there still isn't a f2p orb booster for free spirit other than Shanks. Most other types have multiple options.
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>>186840082
the best free spirit booster was gave it for free with max special http://optc-db.github.io/characters/#/view/1023
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>>186840061
He's deceptively useful. The f2p Cerebral Doffy team used either him or Psy Thatch, I used Thatch myself.
He just comes up a weird amount more than the other niche raids.
I got him to 18 and that's been fine for the 2/3 times.
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>>186840252
That's an attack booster, not an Orb booster.
Free Spirit just has a Shanks that an extremely small amount of people can clear.
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>>186840252
Also worth a mention that Ace isn't the best free spirit booster.
TS Brook and Colo Apoo both excel in different ways that Ace doesn't.
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>>186840463
and he fucking doesn't appear, got him to show only 4 times
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>>186840082
>>186840463
I can clear Shanks but I'm pretty damn lazy. Should I finish off Shanks with feasts and almighty books?
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i have 3d2y franky and Ts franky but they are shit compared to SW franky i got that right ?
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>>186840628
Definitely a waste, but I suppose that depends how much you rely on Free Spirit. If you've got Sabo or TS Luffy I guess why not.
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>>186840978
No, TS Franky is a fucking godsend, especially in a type with a f2p Full board.
He's amazing.
SW Franky is like Zoro v2, Jozu and Mirage Nami. He'll come up and let you beat something you stood zero chance at, one day.
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>>186841117
*** Meant 3d2y instead of SW Franky.

SW Franky is pretty good though, strangely a gamechanger, always does juuust enough damage on his own.
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What are dexbeards most used subs? Doesn't matter if they're other legends, RR's, raid/colo bosses, just curious.
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>>186842197
the thing with Blackbeard is you bring whatever you need, but generally Sabo, Raid Fuji, Magellan, STR Moria(especially when his books come out), Legend Marco, and Mansherry all see a lot of use off the top of my head
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>Kai Bellamy
and the crowd goes mild..

they are seriously hamming these stupid raids up. I guess low effort to make while still taking gems from people because time based + Chopperman rewards bandai is really getting lazy for ideas it seems
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I have Borsalino for shooter orb manipulation, is it still worth my time to get Heracles-un skilled up only for cerebral teams?
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>>186839287
>>186839461
Do you retards seriously not keep track of what's coming unless it's officially announced in game?
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>>186843350
At this point there's no reason to farm the old raids, just wait for the neo version. I can assure I won't be farming the old Bellamy when he hits global.
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>>186843595
fuck man with global's track record I wouldn't be surprised if Neo Bellamy came out first
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>>186843385
I'm in the same boat and I've needed him a couple of times, but there was an always easy replacement.
Maybe do what I did and just make his CD useable but not max?
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>23 sabos
?2 YWB invasions
Fuck this bullshit mechanic
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>>186843859
>Tfw I could clear both Shanks and YWB if we got them at the same time Japan did
>Need books they had but we don't have yet
>YWB every 2 runs as a result
Goddammit.
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>>186843763
I might get a few more copies then. I did see him show up on some cereberal teams for neo doffy, and I assume restrictions of that sort will only become more common as the game goes on.
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>>186843990
That's more or less my logic too, starting to socket a bunch of units that are quite average for when I suddenly need them.
Genuinely regret not socketing Squard, but I have used Qck Squard a few times I suppose.
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>>186842197
Shiki, lao g
ColoSmoker, raidKizaru/SwUsopp
My go to team in global
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>>186840061
You max him primarily for Ace if you have the ace dream team.

I just checked and don't have a picture of it but - Friend Ace; Ace; SW Franky, Zephyr, Heracles, SW Usopp. Most replaceable is usopp but he's still pretty great. It's pretty hard to get full board orbs without walking into legend territory otherwise.
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Any globals here with croc? I'm tired of not having any god damn croc friends.

331 103 287 if you can
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>>186846053 i have crock and maxed doff

368 496 250
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Today I learnt between my jobs and Neo Mihawk into Doffy I've actually got joint damage in my fingers.
CAN'T WAIT FOR KUZAN
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shoutout to sandy sand sand pirates for captain buggy the sugo hero
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Who do you think will be the next 6+?
I'm hoping it is Sengoku, although I'm not sure what he would change in to.
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>>186848950
it'll most likely be Qck or Dex, I would guess either Croc or Ace
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>>186848950

i just hope they stop giving legends the boa / rayray / shanks treatment
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Is orbs autoheal really patrician over autoheal charge for Lucci?

I feel like it's always not enough to just have level 1 on my Squard if I'm lucky enough to get to use him on a team. Curious how other people feel.
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So what sugofests has japan gotten / will be getting that we have to "Look forward to" / save for?
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>>186843595
>At this point there's no reason to farm the old raids
This is how I feel with Pica, for example. Haven't farmed him yet. Since Neo has 3 sockets as opposed to 2, should I 100% just not even touch the non-neo version at this point?
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>>186849945
Rays 6+ is such fucking bullshit. They literally just turned him into a G4 Luffy sub. Absolutely fucking retarded.
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>Getting ready for Skillup in my break time at work
>Bosses dog pulls phone off the desk by the cable and it breaks
Gg 170 gems boys.
Any phone recommendations so I can be ready for Aokiji in time?
I can migrate using the data but I'll lose my gems.
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>>186852809
You only lose your gems if you go from Android to iOS or vice versa.
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>>186851834
At this point we've missed most good sugos they got so don't hold out for guarantee'd legends.
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>>186852904
I'm the paranoid sort. My account isn't linked properly to my googleplay, so I'm worried I'll lose them regardless due to how buggy that's been.

Hopefully I keep them, not pulling to zero on a sugo where I can't even get the legends I want anyway.
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>>186853030
I mean if you're paranoid already, you should be more worried about losing your account entirely. As long as you get your account back, there is LITERALLY nothing to worry about regarding loss of gems.
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>>186853176
Is it literally just that they store the IoS and Android accounts completely separately and the crossover migration fucks your gems?

I also remember losing story progress last time I did this, but that was way back when.
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>>186853235
I don't know exactly how it is, technologically-speaking, but I imagine the crossover loss is mainly due to gems being tied to two different stores, with Google Play and the Appstore. So it's like, you can't buy gems on the Appstore and use those same gems on Android that you "should have" gotten from the Play store. I don't know, I'm just guessing.

Also, the loss of story progress actually isn't normal. Did you ever try repairing resources?
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>>186852931
was mostly concerned with when to save my gems for. spending on shirahoshi etther way probably. My party's still weak as balls and (though i'll never get him) neptune'd be nice
I've only got like 1 multi pull in me atm
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>>186852931
>JP gets guaranteed legends every other sugo
>If it's not guaranteed legends it's gold only with bullshit like "max skill on every pull!" and a set of new units
>9/10 Global sugos are bait garbage and the big events that rarely happen are still worse than JP sugos
Bamco really knows how to make their players feel like second class citizens, that's for sure.
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>>186853568
Probably because people on global spend the money either way so they don't care to make it more enticing.
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>>186853568
>letting yourself be treated like that by not switching
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>>186853565
You'd be legit retarded to roll this sugo. Literally everything about it is garbage. Put your dick back in your pants and have some patience.
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>>186853732
I'll be multing once because there's a ton of future content I can use very specifically Decken for. Guess Mermaid princess would be okay too.
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>>186853732
sooo keep saving and pull twice some other time. I can work that too i guess
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>300 gems even with all the farming
>still no guaranteed legends
bamco please just let me pull
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>>186853732
>Have patience for that phenomenal all-gold, guaranteed red, 10x legend boost half-off multi full-socketed sugo /opgg/ wants so bad that'll never happen
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>>186854241
at this point I'd be happy with a silverfest that has guaranteed legend after 3 multis
eventually they'll have to cave in
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>>186854141
Same. I want to pull, but they're just not giving me any reason to. How is this good business for them at all?
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>>186854141
My thoughts exactly.
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I thought neo aokiji started at midnight?
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>>186854417
it does, and there's 45 minutes left for midnight
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>>186854294
Yeah it seems all people want is the guranteed legend and understandably so
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>>186854307
I really don't understand their logic in half the things they do. If what they're doing with JP works so well why don't they just do the same fucking thing with global?
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Good luck with skill up, friends.
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Max skilled Jabra with only 15 books, neat, I'll probably continue to never use this fucker but neat.
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I thought we were getting 20 free gems?
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is this a good sugo or should i wait for something better?
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Izo 7/10
QCK Lucci 2/8
Kuzan 1/8
Smoker in Tashigi's Body 3/8
Tashigi in Smoker's Body 0/3
Swimsuit Viola MAX/15
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>>186858023
If you wait for something better than you'll always be waiting for something better
but no in the grand scheme of things this can't really be called a "good" Sugo
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Sabo 7/12
Boa 3/12
Chinjao 2/4

Can check Sabo off my list of units that refuse to skill up. Boa still a bitch though.
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>4/20 Sabo
>1/4 colo Apoo (max)
>0/14 colo Kuro
>2/20 Boa (max but shitty sockets which is what I was after)
>1/7 Shanks
and then
>8/17 YWB
the only one I didn't give a fuck about leveling got all the skillup luck
just
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Friendly reminder that Rayleigh in the tome island explicitly tells you which tome he's going to drop. So if you don't like it you can quit and get another one.
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>0/4 Shanks
At this point I'm thinking about using almighty manuals on him.
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so what does neo Aokiji do? is it the same as JP?
my autism demands that I farm him
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>6/40 on chin jao
Fuck bamco
>12/22 on Invshanks
FUCK
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>maxed croc with 24 books after pulling him just last sugo from a free pull
Sometimes this game is not shit. Come at me crocobros
934985512
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>>186859672
233 048 922, still needs to skill up though. I dont wanna farm books atm
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>maxed barto with 14 books

Now I need to CC him and hes quad maxed

Soon to be the my first ever quadmaxed legend. Now I'm playing with the big boys
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>the links in the OP don't work

THE SHITPOSTER STRIKES AGAIN :(
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is memekiji defeat-able with legend sabo or f2p?
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>>186859672
already have you, my Croc is fully candied and socketed like yours but with the proper socket order but 0 skillups, hopefully he can be of use though, he's usually in a secondary slot
t. Fox Pirates
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>>186860582
>>186859672
actually never mind, he's splvl 3 (19 turns), I don't even know when that happened
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>>186858567
>Sabo 7/12
>Boa 3/12
>Chinjao 2/4

>Uses less than 5 books per skill up, has good/great luck and still complains.
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Build me two teams for striker and free spirit neokiji. You can't use:
- WB (unless friend cap)
- Barto (unless friend cap)
- Zeo

- TSLuffy (unless friend cap)
- Invasion shanks
- STR Garp
- Sugar

Go!!!
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>>186862064
How bout u build ur own damn teams landboi
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>>186862064
use friend legend law for free spirit
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>>186862064
For Free Spirit, Log Luffy captain with 1st Legend Law Friend, SW Franky, Colo Apoo, Raid Sabo, and a red beatstick like Calgara or Blamenco. If it's your Law and a friend Log Luffy, that red Hancock would also be a good choice, if you stall enough to take the HP cut before you burst. Should work probably
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>0/8 in barto
>2/15 in jabra
>0/8 in sabo
>koala STILL without autoheal
>use cola on coffin, failure
YOU BETTER GIVE ME SHIRAHOSHI OR NEPTUNE WHEN I MAKE ME TARD PULL IN THE SUGO BANDAI
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>Caesar Maxed
>Story Lucci Maxed
>Magellan 4/13
>Invasion Shanks 4/10
>Colo Chinjao Maxed
>Smoker 2/10
>Izo 1/15

Of all the units to have the worst luck with, I'm happy as hell it was Izo. Think I'm gonna keep going for Magellan and Smoker books just so I never have to think about Shambles Fortnight again, and then worry about having to grind Ms. Valentine.
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so what teams is everyone using for Aokiji?
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11/40 sabos (lvl11 20turns)
6/27 boas ( Maxed)
21 ywb (Pic related)
6/17 chinchongnipong (lvl6 25turns)
0/4 shanks (Fuckyoubamco)
0/2 croc books (^^^^^^^^^^)

They are even at 25%
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>>186865335
Forgot pic
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>Wake up
>New Kai Raid
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>>186865323
http://optc-db.github.io/damage/#/transfer/D1404:99:100:0:0,1404:99:100:100:0,1023:99,1212:99,865:99,1318:99C7,10B0D0E17Q0L0G0R14S100H

9-10 copies/day
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>>186865808
>tfw no TS Luffy
I hope 5+ Luffy and Sugar is enough
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>>186865323

Haven't done Striker or FS yet, but I have legends to faceroll those with.

Shooter was a little more worrying, but this team crushes it no sweat. Farm for orbs the first three turns, then after that do Blackbeard + one of the hp cutters, the other HP cutter + Ace (if you have good orbs), and then Zephyr and Franky for the win.

Franky's unfortunately not really replaceable, but if you've got him this is super easy.
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>>186865936
5+ with ts luffy friend should be enough. Aokiji is easy as fuck, doesn't even punish if you fuck up and don't finish him off immediately.
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>>186865808
>>186866027
thanks guys
maybe I won't be able to do striker because that's the least kind of units I have, specially red, but I'll think about it
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Is there a problem with Damage Calc? TS Luffy special option on the left bar is not available.
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>>186867203
It's the captain ability slot.
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>>186867203
Yeah click captain action instead.
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>>186867282
>>186867309
Ah thank you
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Have croc, doff, mihawk and sengoku, what team can I make for neo aokiji? Also have maxed shiki
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Wow every shooter team needs fucking sw Frankie WOW

FUCK YOU
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>>186868936
we really need a good F2P orb booster for shooters
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>>186868936
>>186869304
if only raid Kuma was a shooter like all the other Kumas and Pacifistas
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>inb4 neo Kuma with the same exact sockets and stats but shooter + something class
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>>186868936
>pull three if those last sugo
>ny shooter units are him, zephir and GPU
I really wish I could gift him, he's only gonna gather dust unless I pull a miracle Ace
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>>186869784
Zephyr captain + SW Ace friend is pretty good actually
if you have SW Franky, you can get the other good shooter F2P subs (Boa, Heracles, Kizaru)
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>>186868936
Honestly mine relies on Absalom and works just fine, but I am using RR Kuma.
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>>186870195
>was too slow to snap pic
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>>186869784
>have Ace, Borsa and 6* Usopp
>no SW Franky
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>probably can't farm any of the 60 stam
Is there even any point in doing the 40? I tried that for neoDoffy but the drop rate was really low and global skill up rates are anus.
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>Release a Raid
>Shortly after release a Limited version of said raid which is superior in every way
B R A V O
A
M
C
O
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>>186871682
I wouldn't worry about this Aokiji that much. His normal raid version is good enough/better.
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0/5 on my first Neo Aokiji and no sockets.
I LOVE GLOBAL!
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>9 splvl ups from 70 sabos
>14 from 50 boas

I hate this game so goddamn much
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sabo 9/25
boa 2/23
alvida 7/28 (max)
inv shanks 0/2
I'm happy to have had a good run with Sabo's levels even if I got fucked on Boa. I'd prefer that than the other way around. I unironically use Boa for Sabo's raid at her base cooldown anyway.
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2/5 on croc

sigh
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I don't think I'm going hard on a raid for a while, gems are getting low and I'm going to do a multi like an idiot for shirahoshi.
How many neo Aokiji you guys getting? I got the regular one maxed and this one feels like a sidegrade desu.
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how to beat neo aokiji? I have a pretty good str team but not optimally slotted or special lvled, so I'm worried about having my whole team binded and fucked.
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>>186877725
1. Don't have Whitebeard or Barto so no reason for me to grab more than one.
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Is there a page with Global Neo Aokiji information?
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>>186877725
I'll try and get the cc from each class if I can do them and maybe get the almighty tomes from the shooter missions.
It should be doable with 2-3 gems and meat snails.
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>Double Buggy tripled the turtle in Rayleigh's mission
Fuck the person who put that there.
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Is Neo aokiji the same as japan or has global "spiced it up" (made the currently boosted RR a requirement)
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>>186880718
Don't even know what global aokiji does but I can tell you from what he did in JP there is no chance he does the same because it required the latest batch (Zou 2).
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How much HP does free spirit Aokiji get back up with? Would legend Law level 1 or level 2 special be enough to finish him?
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>>186881034
Level 2 is enough.
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>>186880204
Same thing happened to me.
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>8/19 Aokiji special
>Only 2 useful sockets
Skillup is great but damn those sockets.
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>>186872246
>tfw Vergo is shit but neo Vergo will be all right
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How do defense reducers and enemy defense buffs interact? Would Garp's special fuck over the defense buff free spirit Aokiji gives himself when he revives?
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>>186880718
>>186880862
it is the same
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Glad to have an easy Neo after not having shit for Doffy, plus its nice to clear new content with my Ace team again.

Standard SW Ace team, bind + despair sockets. Normal attacks on Aokiji, tank the first hit, pop Franky+Z, 2nd turn use Heracles if you need it.
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>>186882391
Do you farm orbs beforehand or what?
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>>186882664
Casually. I just try to get an orb on Franky, but if not it's not too big of a deal. I was considering it lucky if I got him down to 3/4 before his attack. As long as you can live until you can use Franky+Z specials, it's cake.
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>>186883318
I have SW Usopp on my team as well just for sockets, but he could easily be replaced with a damage reducer or whatever else you may need.
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JUST
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>>186884036
Rayleigh literally tells you what he gives. You should've exited before clearing.
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>>186884036
>dr
>bad
Pick one
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>>186884202
Fuck, the one time I dont read the dialogue, its actually important...
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>get neko yesterday
>now get kid
>saved 33 of his books
Oh my word
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>>186885737
congrats, you won the game
>>
Its fuckin impossible to use timing characters.
I cant hit for shit Law perfects or LL when I active all the specials.
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>>186885737
Pull for striker Legend law and go nuts
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>Literally every single fucking class has been getting support except for shooters.
What the fuck is Bamco's problem?
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>Invasion Shanks 3/25

IM GOING TO STAB A THOUSAND HOOKERS
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>>186886919
>using literally any crew
>6 perfect consistently
>using law legend
>miss at the third every time
fucking pressure. And log luffy is just useless for me because hitting goods is alien as fuck, it feels like shit to do. I really hope that I never pull him.
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>>186887613
>3
We got a rich one here fuck off
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>>186887613
I wish I saw him even 3 times.
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>>186886919
It's the pressure of the situation. I can literally hit perfects without even thinking at all with bum fuck characters I've never used. But the minute I need to use G3 or anything similar, I way overthink situations and end up losing because of it.
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>>186889905
I choked Boa forest twice in a row yesterday with my 0 slvl team which barely can get to last stage and needs 6 perfects to kill her during burst turn.
I just got it now with 0 fucks given attitude.
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>>186889905
Same here with Jinbe. I can hit perfects after using his special every time but I failed three times in a row on the Doffy forest because of one missed perfect.
I ended up zombieing it.
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does the ships returns in Rayleigh shop ?
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>>186889842
>>186889358
those were 19 universal skillbooks+6 Shanks copies

I got 2 skillups from 19 FUCKING UNIVERSAL BOOKS
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Complete scrub here, I have 3 max special GPUs with no sockets, how should socket them for forests?
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>>186890953
>3
Way too many. One GPU with Bind/Despair. One with Bind/Heal. Then you get one Usopp+ with CDR/Heal/Bind
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>no sugar
>no RR Garp
>evolved story moria to the fucking 5* version
FS Aokiji is absolutely impossible for me, right?
>>
I totally took for granted how much the color pages were actually redrawn and redesigned for the optc splash arts.
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>>186891732
Wait, what? Which story Moria is good? I have both forms.
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>>186891732
Story Moria is not enough to kill him though.
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>>186891732
Use friend legend Law
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>>186891732
Replace Franky with Halloween Franky
Apoo can be subbed for INT Ace
Use Luffy+ cap with friend Law
Bam, f2p. Dont think you need Kuja but I could be wrong.
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>>186891732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDb2wwh-9hA&feature=youtu.be
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Why is Neokiji so much easier than NeoDof? I'll probably be able to max one just from the Shooter quest.
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>>186896535
because Aokiji is easier than Doffy
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>>186896535
Because sockets made Aokiji's raid super easy
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>tfw no Zeo for Striker Aokiji
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Does sabo's special bypass defense? Please please please
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whTjpR1Vjwo&feature=youtu.be

found this video. this is one of the most fun teams i've ever played. ts usopp is such a good unit. Got 10 runs in with this and 9 runs in with my free spirit.
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>>186899321
No
>>
Post Aokiji teams
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>>186899906
I really hope I pull Borsalino one of these days.
>>
So unfair. All my good units are driven/powerhouse.
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>>186899906
Damn, and I thought my 3 minute ace runs were fast.
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Can this do it if WB not maxed?
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>>186901794
Maybe if his CD is under 20 and you're using a maxed +beard, and is Doublefinger really your only other decent striker?
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>>186901794
>>186902815
Sorry, that was supposed to say maxed +beard 'friend'
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Anybody find a barto team for the striker variant? I have wb+ but i'm at 20 CD. Was probably just gonna sub him. I'm a little tempted to throw my universal stash into him but... I just can't do it. Even though all his fortnights with books are absolute aids.
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>>186903459
Why is everyone acting like 20+ makes it impossible? There's a shit ton of possible stalling on Aokiji's raid.
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>>186903640
I think it's less about it being possible and more people want to get in as many runs as they can in the time allowed so they want teams with as little stalling as possible
NeoKuzan is pretty easy I bet any base CD appropriate legend team could do it no problem
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>>186903640
To be fair I just like barto more. Not acting like it's impossible, just my wb is fairly new. I had to unlock kraken and farm books... It was fucking awful.
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>>186902815
Here is my strikers
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>>186904114
>mfw I have no face
What the shit are you using Doublefinger for with all these options? The only viable excuse is cost restriction
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>>186904114
Look at all the Namis
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>>186903934
We get seven days, 30 minutes a day. Assuming a run takes 10 minutes (A LUDICROUS amount of time), that's 21 copies from one quest. People just need to chill out.
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>>186904114
>has a MAX Diamante, a Don Sai and a 92 Kid

>better use Doublefinger and Nami


you are not a smart person, are you?
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>>186904484
people arent in it for the copies, they're in it for the universal. the copies are a nice extra. the chopperman missions are what it's about.
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>>186901794
do you have any kind of striker booster?
Prisondile would be great
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>>186904656
Okay, Almighties are 30 runs, if we use the base of 10 minutes a run, which is absolutely not in the slightest normal, you're still pretty much good to make it.
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>>186904381
They don't feel that useful Aokiji. She is damage with low CD. Many are untaxed
>>186904505
Unevolved Don Sai.
Neo Aokiji binds specials that's why Nami
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>>186904772
I have him at 24 turns all my past farming went to slasherdile sockets
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>>186904114
>Don "anus ripper" Chin Jao
Why are you using Colo smoker you putz?
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As long as I can get past the 3rd stage, would I be able to Dexkiji?
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>>186905191
Smoker is maxed and socketed
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>tfw pulled Zeo with my free pulls.
So just Double beard, zeo, Colo Smokerand some STR beat sticks?
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>>186905318
Where are your sockets at boy!?
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>>186904892
Almighties are 30 runs each, so 10 minutes a run is 3 runs a day, which means 21 runs in a week for each difficulty. To get the universals you need 4-5 runs a day.
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>>186905681
9/9 and good, socketed friend captains. Unlike my shooter team which is full of unsocketed godunits like usopp and franky.
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Who here /pedro/? Fuck wb, barto and zeo.
And once again, I can stall 25 turns for my aokiji special so you have no excuses for muh stalling.
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>>186905934
The point being that 10 minutes a run is beyond ridiculous. Even with the most BASIC of pedro teams, it should only take about 7 minutes or so, which is 5 runs a day.
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>>186906537
And here's free spirit's pedro. Halloween Franky instead of SW if you're really really pedro. I hope you maxed your STR boas everyone, because she is gold for this raid.
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>>186905318
Nevermind, did it with this team in 7 minutes.

yes, goldenweek has bind/despair sockets too, bringing me up to 7/8 respectively
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>>186907303
I'm probably not even going to bother with FS, I have Striker and Shooter on lock down, and farming with off-captains is a huge fucking pain in the ass.
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Please guys put your maxed PSY laws in your main captain slot when you aren't playing.
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>>186899906
I can confirm this team works with Zephyr and story Magellan in place of Ussop and Franky.
It's not as fast obviously but still easy as shit.
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Would this team work for FS, or is it too light on damage?
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>>186908809
what purpose does valentine serve on this team?
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>>186908969
Conditional boost after garp special, have Law to kill after the revive. Does aokiji do something to prevent that? Can sub in qckhawk for healthcut instead.
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>>186909098
doesn't Aokiji block def lowering
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>>186908809
>no orb manipulator
U gonna get raped. Better use TS Luffy friend.
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Stackable books are nice, but at the same time it's just a grim reminder of all the units I still don't have.
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>>186911342
Imagine if you could feed full stacks at once.
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>>186911931
Fund it
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Day 1
>7 Shooter
>7 Striker
>4 free spirit
I fucked up a few runs using friend legend Law, switched to TS Luffy friends and had a much better time
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Free Spirit possible with this?
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>>186913674
Why aren't you using Sabo as the captain.
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>>186913962
Conflicts with Law's captain ability
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>>186914042
what
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>>186914042
Um how?
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>>186905017
But Nami's special would be bound too, right?
>>186914042
Your thinking of the wrong Sabo
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>>186914494
nami's sailor is to resist silence
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>>186914494
>But Nami's special would be bound too, right?
No
Nami's sailor ability literally makes her immune to special binding
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I fucking hate Free Spirit. Literally only TS Luffy.
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I NEED MORE LAWS
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>>186916878
WHO HAS THE MEME LEGEND NOW MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>186913962
I don't know why this retard >>186914042
answered for me, but I figure it's easier to just use 5+ Luffy and not have to worry about losing damage every time I lose health.
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>>186916994
u
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You guys think this'll be fine? Just not going to use my jank wb+ at the moment. Gonna play generic strikers. Pretty hyped I get to dust off barto, he's my favorite.
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>>186916994
>Creating a single raid that is 100% optional to make a meme unit useful for once
>Retards who have said units losing their shit
Kai Raids where a mistake, now they think they have good units.
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Is anyone gonna pull for neptune during this sugo(shit)fest?
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>>186917595
>Tierwhores assblasted because they're Godly legends can't help them
>Being this mad that people are acknowledging non TS Luffy legends as useful for some things
Wew laddie
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>>186917945
yes
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>>186918081
>they're
is this bait
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>>186917945
I'm doing a multi, and you can't stop me.
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>>186917945
I'm making a multi, even though I should be saving gems since I'm at 140 and usually I only pull when my nigga blackbeard is up. I just don't trust global, even if we get lego after a multi it will be after 5, and only outdated memes like log luffy.
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>>186918081
Fuck you I can clear 99% of the content with my Akainu and Luffy, I don't give a shit about these Kai Raids. Enjoy your little repeat unit while not being able to clear everything else.
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>>186918352
It's extra funny because NeoKiji is worse than Raid.
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>>186918484
Why is worst ? Isn't the same shit but different color?
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>>186918672
Purple/Yellow are objectively superior colors to Red/green/Blue. The reason being that Nothing resists Purple/Yellow, but they are still advantageous colors against each other. Neokiji only has one less CD than Raid, and actually has LESS attack than his raid version.
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>>186918332
>>186918285
>>186918249
I don't give a shit about 3 multi-> legend memes anymore. Legends are overrated.(and I got TSLul )

I'm just gonna pull when RR I want are boosted.
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>>186918672
Dex is worst than Int and one less skill up is irrelevant.
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>>186918352
>My legends are basically useless
fucking Bamco
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>>186919190
>No Law
>No Sengoku
I'd restart if I were you
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>>186919190
>+3
>+3
>+93
+131
+58
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>186919335
When the Powerhouse Driven Neo comes you'll wish you had this box
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>>186919190
are you trying to brag? because thats not very impressive
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>>186919651
I pulled higher priority legends
Once Akainu is done I'll go back for the others
>>186919771
No it's genuinely annoying I can only use WB for this raid.
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>>186919190
Isn't Fuji shit?
I also own Lucci and Fuji
Lucci>>>Fuji
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>>186919190
Am I the only asshole who uses Boa+ as a staple on all my ts luffy teams? I mean, I ain't using her on dexkiji but still.

>>186920864
Nigga, what? Fuij control is fun as fuck and clear anything if not everything.
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>>186921697
Fuji is slow
You need Rocketman for Lucci to be good though
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My God this whole general
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>>186922498
How long ago was the Rocketman in the shop? Missed it and could really use it since I pulled Akainu in the interim.
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>tfw you have SW Ace
easiest raid of my life
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>>186922816
>tfw you have SW ace and Wb/Zeo
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>>186923580
I wish I had Zeo at least, but my strikers are shit
I'll have to put something together and get 5 clears though, those free 500 Ray points are pretty enticing
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>at low health with WB
>Aokiji needs one more turn to attack
>I assume, like all other times, that he will use his special and drop my health super low(since it's the first time he attacks)
>he attacks normally (no special)for whatever reason and I die

What the fuck dude
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>>186924439
he doesn't do his 90% cut if you don't do at least 1-2% of his hp in damage
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>>186924831
Can Shooter Dexkiji be Double raid nigger bearded?
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>>186925238
pretty sure he has too much hp for even double raidbeard specials
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>>186925238
Absolutely, with Colo Gladius and RR Heracle-
Oh...
Oh right.
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>>186925238
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceTC/comments/6vana8/double_raid_bb_works_with_aokiji_kai_despair_1/
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>>186925238
>tfw that's a scentence that makes sense to me
/OPGG/nese
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>>186925238
Dont listen to those knuckleheads, you absolutely can use doubleTeach with the units Global has with some f2p substitutions
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>>186925238
Sentences like these are fucking amazing when you understand what they mean.
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>next week's returning FNs are shit
thank fuck for that, a little break from FN farming
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>>186927885
>I still haven't maxed Perona
She is down to 16, how much further should I go?
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>>186928229
is she even used anymore? for regular use she should be fine at 16, anything lower was needed for forests only pretty much, but these days most people just zombie forests because it's simpler
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>>186928550
I think he meant swimsuit
Mediocre units are ok I maxed my beach Robin.
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>>186928747
he replied to my post about returning FNs, and Perona is one of them, so I assume he means that one
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>most f2p Colo Jao teams use Anni Ace
>can't seem to get a feel for his timing
Fug
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>>186928814
Yeah I mean the normal FN one. I am too scrub to run Aokiji so I might get some FN Perona copies.
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>In about a month and a half my JP account is 10x better than my 6 month Global one

really makes you think huh
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>>186931806
>>186932369
You dropped this, bro.
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>>186932369
>@
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Hey wait a second, can't the FS one be done with
SW Ace x2
SW Franky Apoo
Duval Raid Boa
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>>186935527
how you gunna kill him on the revive?
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>>186935962
How much of a defense buff does he get? You'd still have Raid Boa and Sw Franky special up. Or maybe Popping just Duval/Boa/Franky near half Hp and then saving Apoo for the revive so you get all 3 buffs at once.
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First run!
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>>186936107
pretty sure it's a whole lot not 100% sure
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>>186937936
I'll just try it now and let you know my results, since I can only do pedro FS, and I dont want to farm that way anyways.
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>>186938030
Welp, no dice. Even with getting him down to half, both aces, and duval having matching orbs, Boa/Franky isnt enough for the kill, and I doubt his defense can be gone through without all 3 buffs up. Fuck.
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Another damn damage reduction socket from the ranking.
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Man all the FNs this rotation are complete shit.
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>tfw I've only done 1 of the 3 Neo Aokiji things today so far
>tfw I'm just putting them off because I really don't want to do them
Is there anyone here who's flat-out skipping out on him? I feel like I'll max his special, then immediately stop. I don't even care about the Chopperman rewards anymore. It seems like a cheap way for them to drain gems/stam (if you get tons of meat refills this week) from you
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Its 2017 and we still have a fortnight where HP Nami gloats about not being obtainable in it. Think about that a worthless unit that no gave away for for fucking free next to Shanks and QCK Ace
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So I got G-5 smoker a few sugo's ago and since his books are out and I have been leveling his special up, kinda got me wondering how useful is G-5 smoker overall?
I understand that if you have a legend buggy he is your ace in the hole for clearing content and also he is super needed for ishio(?) raid but other than those 2 cases what is he used for since his captain ability is kinda meh
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Finally
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>>186940917
really useful for raid shiki and fujitora(fuji is the hardest raid in the game atm)
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>>186939156
Word
But at least we get another less shitty arlong...
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This rank was so easy with v1 Shanks.
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>>186943440
>tw: Shit unit mention in positive manner
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>Had v1 shanks for years
>Never leveled or evolved him because he's shit
Definitely not something I ever expected to bite my in the ass.
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>>186943440
Put ur v1 shanks up you niggers
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>>186943440
It really was. Got the highest rewards first try even with a miss or two and some greats.
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>>186947275
show ur team cuz im kinda confused as to what to do

I'm using a team with 56 cost(76 with fiend cap)

only got one great and still got 670k
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Friendly reminder to buy Wild Zoro before he goes away. He will be extremely useful for the Strawhat trio event
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>>186947473
I just used something like this. All of the subs are replaceable, I didn't use any specials.
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>>186947497
I'll take my chances, thanks for the tip anyway.
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Why does everyone seem to have a max level v1 Shanks ready to go for this shit?! I never touched mine. Why would I?
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>>186948151
because people have had him since global came out and have so many chances to power up his special just in case something like this weeks ranking happened
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>>186948151
Literally had him since 2015
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Should I gem for a neo raid? I dont think Aokiji is that worth gemming for
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>>186948628
Sorry, I meant to specify gemming for FARMING the raid, not just a copy
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>>186948151
Shanks is the first unit I ever pulled also I got a second level 99 one from that dumb rainbow gem thing
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>can't tell if hacker or whale
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>>186948628
Honestly, he'll probably come up, especially with Neo raids limiting types. He really is a great striker buffer, and Hawkins/Killer is full board, raid vergo is orbs, striker ends up being a really good team.

I promise he'll come up in some other neo and he's easier to max than Int, during skillup with rewards and needing way fewer levels.
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>>186951293
>Implying that's difficult in the amount of time that's passed + Skill up event
It's a whale you cornflake
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>tfw unironically using Kaya for my ranking team
what a time to be alive
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>>186947497
For some reason I thought he'd gone and you reminded me he's still here.
Thanks a ton, as a Borsa user he's damn helpful.
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>697k ranking score
you have to be shitting me
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Any recommendations to get this team working for Neo Aokiji striker? Should I sub in Baby 5 or one of the Urouges for someone?
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>>186940917

Basically what you said. He's a nice beat stick for strikers and driven with four very easy-to-fill sockets, but his special is extremely situational, and there are generally better subs for bursting. That being said, when the situation arises he's sure as fuck nice to have.
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>>186940917
He's a bit like 3d2y Franky or Jozu, his actual special is pretty niche (Though, you can use it to Baccarat fortnights with Driven teams which is pretty cool)
But, he is a hell of a beatstick and you can use him to prevent captain special binds or negate despairs entirely, even 99 turn ones.
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>>186951293
Massive hacker, consult doctor Chopper.
My luck with Dex characters is too much. first legend nigbeard, now this. out of 11 copies.
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>>186954014
Don't forget he reduces chain by 90% and despairs, he's a complete dick.
Striker is by far the most RR one.
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>too shit to farm aokiji
FNs for me all week then.
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>>186954435
He's the original socketscum fortnight. 6 turns to damage him, but goodluck without bind sockets.
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>>186954014

Maybe swap out Diamante for Baby 5, and activate her before your burst turn so you have the striker boost active. Or if you have regular or even a copy of Neo, use Aokiji instead so you keep your orbs and get two full turns of a 1.75 striker boost.

Would also recommend taking along either Barto or Whitebeard as a friend captain. Barto will let you get an extra 3 turns to whittle him down and burst, and WB will give you the nice HP cut.
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post your v1 shanks you fucks
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>>186956718
Does he need to be max?
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>>186956896
no, this is just speed damage and low cost, its easy but im out of shanks
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>>186956939
>tfw failed ranking 6 times in a row, one of them being 696,800 score
I get too nervous and hit some greats every time
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>good skill up rate on shit units
>shit skill up rate on good units
Just fuck my shit up.
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>>186957524
>45 Magellan books
>2 levels
How.
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>15 gems
>still only 9 doffy books
>unmaxed sockets on Segocuck

This fortnight is an disgrace to this game. I literally have more Shiryu and Burgess Books than the shitty pseudo-legend books from the monster trio island
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>two DR tomes from ray island, one from ranking and two leftover ones
Finally I can fix my mistakes.
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>>186959947
For a second I thought you were taking off one of those other four sockets for it.
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>>186959947
what mistake?
>orbs
oh
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WHO THE HELL THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT A FUCKING TURTLE IN RAY TOME ISLAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>186960981
me
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>>186959947
>3 full sockets for 4,9% additional damage reduction
You are the mistake here!
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>699900 score
Fucku fucju jdfkfkddso
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Farming perona at 30 stam is better than 15, correct? Only after her.
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>>186962156
Yep. Always 30 stam.
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>>186962156

I cannot think of a single instance where farming 15 is ever better than farming 30. Yes, farm 30 if you're looking for literally anything from any fortnight, because lower stamina won't be more or less likely to drop certain things, it'll just be less likely to drop things in general.
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>>186962262
>>186962302
Thought so, thanks friendos.
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>>186961413
>using marco as captain
Nigga he completes the 15 DR slots for literally every tank team (fuji, ace, zoro, can't remember if jinbe has 5 slots), for forests and 50sta colos there's no other option. Too bad in two days I'm 100% going to pull shirahoshi.
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>>186963514
>>using marco as captain
he was all right for Shiki farming the first time around
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what if Kai Buster Call with every boss having a new mechanic?
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this new chapter spoilers are pretty retarded
I don't like where this is heading with Sanji helping make the cake which presumably will make Big Mom forgive everything, but Oda may yet surprise us
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>>186965694
Int Momonga would be one of the best free units in the game.
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>>186966214
Oda will rip off shokugeki no soma and big mum will have "undressing" reaction when she eats the cake.
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>>186966749
I haven't read Shokugeki no Soma, so I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you meant undressing in the literal sense
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chambles
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>>186966910
When characters in that are overwhelmed by delicious flavors it's displayed by their clothes being blown off. For some members of one family they apparently unconsciously strip their clothes for real.
As for why this idiot wants to see it with a fat whore, he has some weird fetishes I guess.
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>>186967312
I see
well that doesn't sound very likely
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>>186963514
>>using marco as captain
He got a revival as captain when Coliseum arrived. I used him to farm several bosses, the last one was Zephyr.
Of course there are no walk-throughs for him. You have to be creative and smart, so it's not for everyone.
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I've got more DR books than I know what to do with.
Is SW Shanks okay to have that socket? He probably won't care to have orbs with his 6+, right? I'm probably not going to use him until that's out anyway.
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>>186968967
DR used to be useless on him, but with the 6+ version letting you reach 30k+HP, plus the conditionless 6 PSY orbs special, it's now worth using them
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>>186969927
>Used to be useless
No, orbs where useless on him when you got 6 anyway. You wanted DR because his damage depended on his HP.
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>>186970352
10%DR when you have just 15kHP is useless (assuming you can max it), even more when your damage multiplier drops after only 4k damage.
DR is a bonus meant to stack over time (same as AH) to let you tank one more full hit after you have reduced+autohealed enough hits. That's why it's gold for high HP teams.
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Billy is da real mvp.
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>>186971019
DR is good for tanking period. It used to be bad because stalling was piss easy, it used to be so easy people thought AH was useless too. For future content you really want to replace Orbs with DR on everything, because fodder only deal more damage over time, and they start doing shit like despairing or locking for 5 turns which you want to tank through too.
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>>186971284
I remember when AH was considered a meme and people were horrified at the idea of wasting 25 slots for that meme 1k heal.
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so who's actually pulling this sugo?
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>>186971923
1 multi
First one since forever. I even bought a bottle of orujo. Each silver is one small glass, golds are two and red is full bottle. Imagine I have to go buy another
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>>186971923
I'll do a few singles. Senor Pink is boosted and I'd like to have him but I'm not investing heavily in it or anything.
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>>186971923
One multi let's go
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>>186971923
Probaably not. I want crybaby and neptune but I have been saving these gems for a long time.
I'll pull when we get guaranteed red.
Which is never
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>>186971923

Gonna do two, maybe three.

I told myself I was going to do it when Shirahoshi came out, and here we are. The no guarenteed legends thing kinda blows, but I look at it this way: I think I'd be more upset if I got a legend I didn't want from my guarentee than nothing at all.

After this, though, no more pulls until either the guaranteed G4 sugo, or the third anniversary passes without a guaranteed G4.
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>>186971923
I just reached 350 gems so I'll do one multi. Please please please don't give me crap.
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>>186971923
Reminder that the moment you cave and do pulls, the real sugo is right after it.
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>>186970352
>where
lol dr fags can't even into grammer
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>>186959947
>literally the perfect unit to put orbs on
>decide to make your ace team even worse because of it
>jimbe and fuji have literally zero issues putting defense on any other unit that are staples because they all have 4 socket slots

who are you so I can remove you
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Whatdoes Orbs do again?
I know DR helps you tank through fodder, take extra hits, let you survive possible lethal damage. But with all the enemy orb shuffles, orb seal and orb controllers available, what does orb socket actually do?
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>>186978849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u1FRRtaW9w
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>>186978849
DELETE THIS
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>>186978849
>>186979025
Me in 12 hours
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>friends list still hasn't been updated
GUP when are you gonna make a new one?
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>>186979214
You're turning into a mermaid?
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>>186978825
just a higher chance of getting matching orbs
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>>186978825
Saftey net on the off chance you may miss a tap.
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>>186948151
because you should aim to max all useful/unique units because you never know when you might need them
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>>186979538
literally today during nighttime, sorry for the long delay
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>>186978023
>Orbs on ace
You can directly remove yourself from all friend lists
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>>186972798
Same here, i'll only use my gems after hoarding 300.
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>>186981632
>V1 Shanks
>Useful
There's being careful, and then there's stupidity.
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>>186978023
go back to sleep, Sealous Scouts
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>>186982139
sorry I cannot hear you over my ez ranking
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>>186982139
There's being stupid, and then there's retarded.
If you did your Turtle Time you could level your units without worrying about every single XP
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>meat event
>0 meats
Thanks mr skeleton
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>>186982139
>low cost 2.5x captain
There's a reason Zeff is the king of rankings, but you can keep masturbating your dream teams
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>pull blackbeard
>realize the game is moving entirely into class-based teams with a new kai raid every week so he's 100% useless
nice
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>>186982021
Most of the submissions you got since the last update are definitely outdated in terms of levels and legends
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>>186982024
>not orbs on Ace
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>>186983283
>blackbeard is 100% useless
nani?!
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>>186985502
do you know how kai raids work?
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>>186985582
BB has 2 pretty good class based teams, both powerhouse and driven
also colos still exist and are more relevant than kai raids to be honest
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>>186983283
>>186985582
>Blackbeard doesn't have classes

okay pal
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>>186982024
>dr on Ace
>cant figure out how CAs work
Sub PL200s have no buisness posting here.
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>>186983283
>this is the kind of people that pull good legends
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Both DR and Orb are luxury sockets. You absolutely don't need them to clear content unless you're a complete retard.
With that said, not having Orb socket on units that utilize it is retarded.
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I NEED ALL THE PSY LAWS NOW
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
PLEASE LOG IN, PUT YOUR QUADMAX LAW AS CAPTAIN, AND LOGOUT
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>>186988164
orbs are great on Ace because you're "often" stalling some debuff or other and looking for orbs to make your burst easier
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>>186983283
Sounds like you belong with the people on facebook.
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>>186988590
>I can easily farm orbs manually while I wait for the debuff to go away
>turn 1, nothing
>turn 2, nothing
>turn 3, nothing
>burst turn, no orbs die
>i-it's ok...rng is rng...better luck next time...maybe level2 orbs isn't enough? I'll resocket zephyr
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>>186988559
seconding this, please put up your Legend PSY Laws
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>>186989363
>shooter requirement for aokiji
>surely my defensive ability will speed up these runs in the 30 minutes I have to do them!
>oh wait stage 3 I only killed one of them
>what do you mean ace is only a 2x multiplier without orbs
>no i don't have kizaru that'd be silly
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>>186989363
>he hasn't ever used Ace
you don't NEED to farm orbs for anything, but having them makes burst easier, as in, you can hit 1 or 2 greats and you'll still be fine
take right now on Aokiji, if I get a full board with Ace before the special bind is up, I can do a bit over 1.6m damage when the bind is over, then I can just wank off for the 2nd turn of damage and clear it easily
if I don't get any orbs, I still do around 900k damage and clear next turn but I have to actually pay attention

similar situation for one of the previous colos we just had, I could stay on the 4th stage a bit looking for orbs but I didn't really need to, it just makes it comfier
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>>186989893
>>186989881
or you can just give your entire board guaranteed matching orbs
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>>186990137
I'm not stalling extra time to use heracles twice

22 turns rofl
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>>186948151
>>186982139
Believe it or not, Shanks was very useful.
Not only was he a 2.5 Captain, PSY was lacking slashers.
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>>186990326
>twice

what the fuck are you smoking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAX-uSAV3-E
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>>186989881
>using kai raids stalling as an example
Dude, try using hard content. With Ace I could get hit by all four mobs on stage 3 and I still stomp aokiji.
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>>186990696
You're completely missing the point dude
It's not about difficulty as much as it is a huge waste of my time getting neutral orbs when I have to blast through shit with massive defense on a 30 minute timer because Kai raids are totally bullshit. Defense literally only wastes more of my damn time because it increases my odds if anything for Ace to not kill shit fast enough. It's alright though, with 10% defense maybe you'll die 10 seconds slower. Amazing.
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>>186989893
Aokiji is EASY. I don't even attack during the special bind, and after that I almost kill him with franky and boa still not active.
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>>186990969
Ok I missed the point. I'll change it:
building your team around muh speed for kai raids is retarded. you have 7 days, you can max the raid twice, you can easily get the 30 clears by doing 5 runs a day, so saving those 5 seconds because muh rng matching orb is useless. Then you do forests and 50 stamina colos, and you have to stall like a shit between stages, and everyone hits like a truck.
muh speed is useless if you save 5 seconds.
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>Have lv3 orb Ace team
>Still get shit orbs on a regular basis because rng

>Have lv3 DR Ace team
>Damage reduction is miniscule in the long run and saves you about as much as resilience would
Luxury sockets
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>>186991486
dr is definitely only relevant in forests if you're doing them with like zoro or neko i imagine

definitely have seen runs that cut it pretty damn close
>>186991473
if by 5 seconds you mean 20+ yeah. time definitely is an asset if you value your time enough to play other video games. i sure as shit want those almighty books with how infrequent shanks comes up. assuming i ran 6-7 runs of each for the week i'd hit 30 for each early as fuck and have a free day off to not touch my phone for once. kai raids are literally designed around doing them fast
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>>186991473
i'm sure that 10% dr is going to matter when chinjao is hitting you for 13k every 2 turns. good thing that boss has like 6 million health so you can just tank it though right?

dr is for good legends that can actually do damage with it
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How does this ranking works exactly, what do you need to do?
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>>186991024
yes he is easy
I've been using Ace for over 150 levels (340 right now) because he's my only reliable captain that I have a full team for, I don't regret orbs for a moment, there's been a million instances where I have just waited out something and farmed orbs during that time
DR would not have helped me, because I was waiting out whatever debuff or something anyway, I don't really have problems with 60k hp
and still, orbs are not necessary, but I have a full team of sockets, so it's either DR or orbs, and DR is unnecessary, if I needed hp for whatever reason I'd bring Marco
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>>186992067
You use DR for the stages before chinjao (or any other hard colo), when there are enemies hitting for 3-7k, or the minibosses. Save 500hp here, 400 there, 600 there, stack this with a stable 1k autoheal and you can gain enough HP for a whole hit, that can make the difference for that last cooldow, or that stalling-through-debuff. It's really the same logic as forests, you blow your load at stage 15 but at stage 19 you have to have all specials ready again. and so you stall on that guy hitting for 5k, use Marco, every 10 hits you get another free hit, like a mutipull.
Orbfags who think DR is only used to survive the final boss nuke with 10HP deserve to have that shit socket on their units.
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>it's dr vs orb again
STOP THIS YOU FAGGOTS AND PUT YOUR MAXED LEGEND LAWS IN YOUR MAIN SLOT FUCKERS
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>>186993323
Well that's the thing though; if you need DR socket to make a difference with your team, then you probably want to consider bringing another team for comfier effort.
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Is there a list somewhere of all the Ranking rewards?
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>>186994157
http://optc-db.github.io/drops/

type in the fortnight you're looking for
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>>186994501
neat
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>>186993323
if you need dr to clear with a shitty dated legend like ace then that's the colosseum killing you and not your socket choices
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>>186994101
Not everyone has the Neko dream team, and some new colos are such bullshit that even something like a zoro or fuji team struggles.
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>>186994763
??? this post makes no sense. You use the legends you have. You clear 100% with the legends you have.
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DR max saves you 10% the damage.
Say a mob hits you for 5k every 3 turns (lowballing, but roll with it). You then save 500 every hit. After 3 turns of auto heal you come out to -1500hp. Not terrible.
If you use it on a boss that nukes, you're still gonna recieve 90% of a nuke, and I garuntee it will hurt like hell, in which case Alvida/Inazuma/Giola/Perona are probably youre best bets (if you NEED to tank a hit and can spare a slot, which probably wont happen much at all). Now this was a low example, but say you kill a guy too early accidentally and need more stall than planned, this could make or break it.
Im an orbfag but I understand the convenience and application of DR. I just dont think it outweighs the benifites of a well times orb when you dont think you need it but really do- you can accidentally have a bad tap at any time, and even if you calculated that 1 turn cd fodder and were going to kill him but accidentally miss and fuck up, your good orb can change the course of your run. Plus im not crazy on the diminishing return factor that many DR built in caps give, which are more common these days.
Bottom line is you shouldnt rely on either, but whichever safety net you prefer should suit you well. If you were a trapeze artist, you wouldnt go out on stage unsure of your skill and relying on that net.
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>it's orbs vs DR again
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why do defensefags pretend like meat doesn't exist at all

the 1000 health you're maybe saving in 5 turns is completely solved by hitting one while stalling
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>dont have 3d2y Zoro
>thought we'd never get anni Ace
>thought my Law would be unusable
>CC'ing Goku first
>havent Law yet
Fug
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>>186995894
>Not all teams have good rcv
>You may need to hit perfects for the occasion
>They arent garunteed
>autoheal exists
Thats my guess what one would say
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>>186996149
>>They arent garunteed
that's true, but it's safe to assume you'll get at least one meat orb over 15-16 turns, possibly more, of "stalling"
rest of points are true
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>>186993089
The less turns, more perfects and lower the team cost the higher the score.
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Max Map Resistance will one day rise.
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>>186995634
Do I put HP or RCV candies on him?
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>>186996474
If they ever merge enviromental damage with poison/venom/toxic I will unironically unsocket all my dr/orbs for that one.
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>>186996474
>Not preparing for the incoming Poison resist meta
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>>186996246
While I would feel safe with those odds, rng is still a cruel mistress. In addition, you may not have the luxury of going 16 turns waiting for that meat orb, or may not have the luxury of hitting with more than 1 guy, since youre stalling and all. Another minor point, and I hate using this argument, orbs technically reduces meat chances.
Another point I neglected in >>186996149 is there are a fair number of events that reduce your rcv. Relying on meat orbs just isnt a good idea.
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NOT ENOUGH
MORE LAWS PLEASE
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>>186997801
Just use your RR Garp lol
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>All the FNs are shit
>Summer girls are useless
>Can't do Neo Aokiji
What do I do for the next week?
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>>186998435
get a copy of rayleigh or hody

farm kuro or valentine
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>>186997801
use your Sugar
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>>186997801
Add me if you dont have me
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>>186998435
shambles tashigi's not that bad. Her special is neat
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>>186998435
Summer Violet is okay if you don't have TS Nami
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I seriously hope you guys don't give in this kikery that is "neo" raids?
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>>186999479
I do have TA Nami.
>>186999281
Is she actually useful for anything in particular?
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refresh your laws please (thanks cumguzzler carmine)
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>>187000819
if you do not own G5 Smoker she will be necessary for Fuji raid
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>>187001647
you wanna farm the FN for his books anyway (and sockets while you're at it)
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Well fuck. was double full energy. saw a snail.
Went to burn some energy in case he wanted to give me meat.
Came back. no snails all day since.

Does kuro not give GPU books on expert?
or did my luck just die..
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Who is next lego after Shirahoshi? Sanji?
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>>187004348
Inuarashi
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>>187004348
Didn't Inuarashi come after Shirahoshi?
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>>187004348
Korean Boa
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>>187004663
Does it really matter at this point? It's Global, don't be surprised if our next legend is Enel
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>>187001647
If I do have G5 smoker then should I just use these copies for sockets then?
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Thanks guys looks like I'll blow a multi this bait sugo.
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>>187003598
He only gives it on Elite. On Expert he gives Sogeking/6+
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>Prisoner Buggy + Story Caesar
>Full matching orbs, 1.75x Driven Boost and a Delay
Are Driven back to being good?
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>>187005580
all sugos are bait sugos
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>>187005625
That got changed a long time ago, check the rewards.
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>>187005813
Oh, I haven't done Kuro's in a long time.
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>>187005656
>Stuck at 1 hp
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>>187005720
>Legend after 3, 5, 7 multis
>MAX skill G4 after 6 multis
Only on global friend
only on global
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>want to try clearing some content with Croc now that I've maxed 6* Doffy and 3d2y Robin sockets
>only 1 quadmax Croc friend
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orbs or DR on Legend Jinbe?
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>>187005940
I finally managed to max GPU after almost a year. The droprates are pretty damn good, and they seem to favor GPU over the others.
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>>187006493
DR
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>>187005625
ah kk thx
Was told once he drops it on all ranks.
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>>187007751
No, I was wrong, read this >>187005813
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>>187005656
>doffy+coby --> orbs+orb boost
>lao+shiki --> orbs + driven boost
Not really
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>>187006258
934985512 for a quadmax croc
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>>187008624
I play jp but thanks anyway
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>>187008624
>He doesn't recognize the JP Carrotposter
We have 3 JP players and they're all avatarfags
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>>187006258
Team up with some dogs
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>>187006843
Why? Aren't orbs better?
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>>187014182
On a 70k HP legend with a special that gives you matching orbs?
No.
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>keep getting under 700k in the ranking

Kill me
Fuck Franky and Enel and their stupid timing.
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>>187000153
Unironically this
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>>187013861
Honestly Bamco should completely rework the Friend Captain search. Lots of teams nowaday work with non-matching captains, there are Kai Raids now that work on limited content, you have a tiny pool of Friends. Having at leat 15 or so friend captains from every legend is a must.
I should be able to have all of my 8 legends available regardless of what my friends have put up, and in the same way use all of my friends' 8 captains.
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>>187017948
they should just use a system similar to FGO, where people put up captains for each of the classes and you can choose whatever the fuck you want
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5 hours to disappointment and regret
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>>187018463
>pulling on a bait Sugo when the real Sugoâ„¢ is right around the corner
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All red posters and guaranteed 6+ on 1, 2, 3 multi Sugo soon
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>>187019951
Bait Sugo. Wouldn't pull.
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>>187019109
>>187020221

w-when was the last real Sugo?
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>>187019951
>red
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>>187019951
>>187020397
I'll wait for the all bronze poster.
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Legends that should have Orbs:
Whitebeard
Sengoku
Marco
Crocodile
Lucci
Barto
Buggy
Inurashi
Neko

Everything else should be DR. Now fucking shut up.
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Is there a drop rate difference between 20 stam and 30 stam FN's? seems pretty much the same to me....
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>>187020959
>Whitebeard
>Marco
>Lucci
>Barto
>Orbs
Why are orbfags so retarded.
inb4 muh speeed
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>>187021454
Whitebeards special synergizes with it, AND whitebeard has space for both DR and orbs.
Marco synergizes with his special.
Lucci synergizes with his special
Barto does not benefit from MORE DR.

I'm actually a DR fag, but you're fucking retarded.
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>>187021673
Whitebeard uses AH nowadays, It's either DR or Orbs and you always take DR.
DR also synergizes with the fact that he lets you tank more. You're never going to use an orb booster unless you have an orb controller, so orbs on an orb booster is completely stupid.
Lucci only has 4 sockets and has no RCV or HP boost, you take CDR instead.
You will be attacking with Barto, there are times where that DR will be useful.

There is a huge problem with Orbs where people look at it and think, "cool, more damage", when in reality it's completely useless.
It's RNG dependent, so from the get-go it's not something you will be trusting to save you.
Orb controllers already exist, you always, ALWAYS, go with an orb controller to ensure the bosses are dead, this is a must, you never go into a colo or raid thinking "if i get a matching orb on X I win."
You don't need matching orbs to kill fodder.
When you look at it logically, matching orbs are completely useless. Just listen to yourself, do you go into a Colo, use WB, and expect to actually get matching orbs? No, of course not, you use it to remove BLOCK and deal some damage, orb randomizers are not a substitute for orb controllers.
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>>187021673
Barto and Whitebeard have a F2P orb manipulator in colo Hawkins. And putting orbs un an unit just because it's an orb booster it's stupid, you want an orb manipulator to get the most of their special.
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>>187022548
>Whitebeard uses AH nowadays,
I didn't even have to read the rest of your post to understand how much of a fucking retard you are.
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>>187022678
t. Globalcuck player
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>August 23, 2017: /OPGG/ reaches retard Valhalla and loops back around to a dispute that has long since been put to rest
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>>187020959
Is CD obligatory on every character?
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>>187023528
Sort of. Lucci is the only character I would /maybe/ replace with orbs. Otherwise, yes.
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>>187023528
Not really. It has become extremely outdated but it's good on the characters with high CDs and those that can't stall.
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>>187020384
2nd anni
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>>187024134
Not really, a retard here hoarded for a year only to pull Sengoku. Every sugo is a bait sugo.
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>>187024331
there's no way that actually happened right? no one can get cucked that hard.

who is this player?
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>>187025393
It's just gambling. Even if the odds are in your favor you can still get fucked. You'd be retarded to roll on a shit sugo like this one though.
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>>187026245
If only people used the same logic for Orbs.
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>Pulling on a bait sugo
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Are the Google links in the OP dead or is it just me?
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>>187026624
>from the guide
lol who bitch dis is?
Is he really raging about pulling a silver?
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>>187024134
The only good thing about anni was the "boosted" legend rate
The rate up units were literally the global devs saying, what boosted units do you want?
Gee I dunno, what books do the current fortnight drop?
Say no more!
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>>187026830
>He didn't watch Kein Astronaut have a total meltdown and even cry off-camera
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>>187026647
they are dead here too, only the guide is up
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>>187024134
I agree. I got good rates for legends and some useful RR. People talk shit about it but they do that for every sugo.
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>>187028025
The variable that people keep forgetting with 2nd anni was that everyone was "pressured" into hoarding gems for months just for that one Sugo so of course a lot of people thought it was good everyone only spent 300+ gems on it I would fucking hope you'd get something good
Speakinf of, should be but a month or two before the 3rd anni hoarders start up
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>>187028764
3rd Anni hoarders started like 5 months ago.
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>>187027958
Hmm alright thanks
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>>187023528
I run both DR and Orbs on fighters because their cooldowns are so low.

only reason I have CD on Jinbe is because of powerhouse teams with Sanji's long ass special.
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>>187028908
No I mean *really* start up, as in every thread having no less than three paragraph posts talking about how 3rd anni is guaranteed to be amazing and pulling in any Sugo before then makes you subhuman trash
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>>187028764
So your saying "Im pretending it was better because I forced myself to do it"? I got 5 legends from 6 multis, I really don't think that was bad.
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Would you rather dump on
>all gold sugo
Or
>3 multis for garunteed legend
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>>187030110
Neither. Because the only thing that matters is rate boosts.
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>>187030205
Literally the wrongest answer
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>>187030110
I will never hoard enough gems for 3 multipulls anyway.
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>>187030243
>Do 3 multis
>My guaranteed legend is Shanks
Wew lad.
>Do all gold sugo
>Since the rate up units are garbage like Giolla, I pull nothing but.
Wew lad.
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>>187030409
>no guarantees
>pull all silvers
At least in my worst case scenario I get fodder for the slave shop
>>
When the legend pool is so polluted with fake reds nothing matters at this point
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>>187030514
>pull all silvers
Literally never happens.
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>>187030607
lol ok
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>>187030756
Post one screenshot where all 11 pulls in a multi were silver.
I'll wait.
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>>187029863
>So your saying "Im pretending it was better because I forced myself to do it"?
Not even close but keep trying
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>>187030946
Post a screenshot where all 11 gold are garbage.
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>>187020959
>neko
what the fuck
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>>187031114
That's subjective and different to each player, since if I already have a good gold, and it's a dupe, it is considered garbage.

try again, you fucking waste of air. Still waiting on your screenshot.
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What other silver units remain after the removal of the alabasta trash?
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>>187031253
cry more my sweet baby
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>>187031207
Orbs decreases rate of Tnd/rcv orbs. So yes.
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>>187031439
>Still nothing.
Last (you) you get from me, you fucking retard.
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>>187031612
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>>187031343
Story straw hats
RR silvers
I think base V2 Sanji & Usopp
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>>187031473
No they dont
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>>187031343
The silvers don't matter, the first 5-6 batches have been badly powercreeped anyway so most of them are fake gold
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Im pulling and only a shoutout can stop me
>>
Shoutout to the absolute madman anon who is gonna pull during this bait sugo.
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>>187030552
>fake reds
Have the memes gone too far?
>>187032142
The study says it does- orb slots pull its odds from every neutral orb
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>>187033409
Shoutout to your mom to get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich
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>>187033646
>Have the memes gone too far?
>Shanks
>Usoland
>Sengoku
>Psy law
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>>186998435
What's wrong with Shambles?
Magellan is a damn good free unit that it drops books for, both Shambles units are decent, one Niche/One generally useful.
If you don't have G4 Smoker you should absolutely be maxing a Tashigi.
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>>187034081
>psy Law
Not fake, just RR relient
>Goku
Nigga...
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>>187033409
I'm multing because if I pull Neptune I get to guiltlessly uninstall.
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>>187034153
>Log Luffy
>Kuzan
>Enel
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>>187034683
If you're opposing Log Luffy being a good legend try him with Zeo/Boa and Ray Sanji when he comes.
Rockets him into damage with easy to get units that other legends can't get
>>
>>187034683
>>187034081
>Enel
>Ussop
Stop posting globaltard, they're fucking great.
>>
>>187034081
I'm surprised you have those as examples of fake legends when Hodi exists
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OFFICIAL /optc/ FAKE RED RANKING
>1. Sengoku
>2. Shanks
>3. Buggy
>4. Kuzan
>5. Corazon
>6. Hody
>7. PSY Law
>8. Boa
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>>187035495
I always. ALWAYS forget Corazon even exists, ahaha, what a fucking terrible legend.
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>>187033646
Link?
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>>187035495
>tfw you actually want a good chunk of these units
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>>187035495
>Shanks
We've had this conversation you idiots.
Damn, how dare he one shot 99% of content in 14 turns entirely regardless of their type.
He's fine.
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>half of the RR pool is fucking outdated garbage
>on the awful chance that you pull a legend it can also be garbage

The state of one piece treasure ruse
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>>187037143
>One-shot
As if that matters when Chaos Colos have 2, even 3 bosses in a row. If teams were good based on the numbers on the damage calculator then every legend would be amazing.
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>>187037474
Here's your problem right here.
"A character is only useful if it clears all the chaos colos"
No.
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>>187037532
What would you rather pull, a unit that can clear all Chaos Colos, or a unit used to speedfarm fortnights?
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>>187037609
Both.
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>>187037609
I mean me personally?
Genuinely Shanks for the extremely fast raid clears.
Spent most of my life in this game doing FNs/Raids, not Chaos Colos.
But that is preference.
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>>187037660
Kek.
Shanksfags are fucking pathetic.
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>>187037734
>k-kek wanting to be able to do everything well what a loser amiright guys
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>>187037707
>Some of the absolute most important F2P units are locked behind chaos colos.
>lol I dont even do chaos colos.
>>
Name content that ANYONE uses Hody on
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>>187037609
>Fortnights and colos are the only content in optc
Buddy
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>>187038015
ERPing summer girls fortnights
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>>187037818
>>187038079
You people are honestly admitting you would rather not do colos and just stick to speedfarming fortnights. There is no discussion here, just stop while you're ahead.
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>>187037891
I never said that.
If I had to choose what to pull first, I'd take the speedclear, I've missed out on tons of shit because the demands of my new job.
Hell, I'm locked out of Chinjao because of units I didn't have time to farm.
Pure preference, if not for the Need for Speed©, clear capability is obviously more desirable.
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>>187038237
I said I'd like to do both. In case you're actually illiterate, that means I would like to do colos, AND speedfarm FNs. For greater clarity, I should note that I would also like to be able to do literally everything else with the characters that are best suited for beating it. I hope that wasn't too unclear for you.
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>>187038079
Oh yeah, you can also use him for raids like zephyr and nightmare luffy.
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Have you peole never learned? Don't fucking argue with speedtards. They're the worse of the general and probably behind all the shitposting.
Everytime someone even mentions Shanks they go on a massive autist burst about speed, something NO ONE gives a fuck about. They'll never back out or shut up, there is no winning with them.
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>>187038858
From memory there's only two or three raids he doesn't clear, once you math it out.
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>>187038934
So you exclusively use zombie teams, right?
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>>187038934
As someone who takes neither side, this game is fundamentally a balance of both. Especially with Neo raids now existing, you're just as bad.
By your argument a zombie team is equally valuable to an equally capable speed team.
Now you know that isn't true, so speed has a place.

Turns out when you flat deny the legitimacy of something, you're often wrong.
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>>187038969
Sure he can clear stuff but the whole speedfarming argument goes off the window because he's just barely clearing them.
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>>187039224
I'm not sure I understand.
If he does it in 14 turns at a 100% clearrate but just barely has the damage, what's the difference?
Also considering he can run Chinjao, Pica and Young Whitebeard he often overkills things just like most psy burst.
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>>187039162
Fundamentally, speed doesn't matter because zombie teams are not farm-friendly. No one uses zombie teams to farm. The slowest team might take 5 minutes to clear something, and that is still more than enough to get a couple copies off. Shaving that down is great sure, but not enough to make a unit "worth it".
There is no reason to want a legend because it can clear a fortnight 30 seconds faster.
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>>187039548
Either you have so many legends you've forgotten how this game works for the average player or you're so new you just don't actually know.
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>>187039763
>Either you have so many legends you've forgotten how this game works for the average player
I think this is actually the fundemental problem with this whole general
>>
Are you people actually listening to yourselves? There are legends like Akainu, TS Luffy and Zoro that can easily clear all content, but you would rather have Shanks because he's fast. There is just no difference, even legends like Lucci and Barto are great compared to Shanks.
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>>187039964
There is certainly a divide.
The tight knit of older players like me, Sanjuro and GUP all own enough legends that we can't help but lose touch a bit.
Newer players have no real sense of comparison between legends, either having few or none.

I mean I pulled Marco then Boa, way way way back in the day, and I still get a ton of use out of captain Marco because of the DR, but us older players would throw him under the bus regardless.
>>
>>187040035
>the existence of broken characters means that every other possible character is shit
ok man whatever
>>
>>187035495
Boa+, Hody, Kuzan, and Corazon are fine. I won't argue the others.
>>
30 minutes until I pull Neptune.
>>
I have 400 gems. Should I do one multi?
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>>187040857
There is literally zero I want.
Vander is okay.
Fukaboshi I have tons of replacements for.
Shyarly I don't even know.
Neptune is a curse.
Caribou is an amazing unit but, not sure what to use him for.
Don't need a full board legend.

Multing anyway. Weep for me.
>>
>>187040035
Oh shit, I didnt know you get to choose the legends you pull!
>inb4 "dude just reroll lmao"
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>>187041085
It's worth assuming that anyone who says a legend is bad because of another legend is also rerolling scum.
>>
>>187041146
>>187041085
The point is that when you get a red poster it could potentially be a legend that can actually let you clear content, or a legend that lets you speedrun fortnights
I guess it's an attitude issue more than anything, people who see the cup empty and people who see there's one droplet inside.
>>
>>187041545
At the end of the day, it's still random.
I'd say the people arguing the merits of the unit in a vacuum are doing the better thing.
A better legend being added to the game doesn't make yours worse unless you proceed to pull it.
>>
>>187041545
Half the time the worst type of red poster is a dupe, unless you can actually benefit from socketing them differently or if you're gambling on the + being different. I feel like you can't have too many legend doffy (i'm sitting on two), or even boa since her evolved and unevolved are good for ts/g4. EVEN ts luffy right now, since we aren't ever sure how global will scum us and not give us the g4 in 6 multis (can't wait for x10 rate up on last wanted poster for g4 lol!). I myself am keeping a dupe goku, marco, and croc. I know it won't matter for goku and marco since they can only get better but I don't trust croc not being completely reworked.
>>
>>187042089
I guess that's the one perk to the people who insist Ray+ is worse, I can only guess because of the damage element being removed which a lot of teams relied on.
Dupes are semi-worth having.

Of course TC is about to get the experience system that might rely on dupes, which would hilariously fuck global considering Japan has had so many guaranteed legends by now.
>>
>>187042089
Genuinely curious, how do you think they could fundamentally rework croc? At first I had thought of some kind of poison shenanigans like Magellan's health cut, but after he took that, I just don't see any kind of way of reworking croc.
>>
I'm gonna pull to fap at sharley. wish me luck.
>>
>>187041678
That doesn't make sense because the game itself is tailored around the units they have released. Content is designed so specific units shine while others fail. Shanks being on the absolute lowest end of the legend spectrum, is objectively a bad legend.
>>
>>187042278
That is the other element of course, power creep.
But that doesn't require any strict comparison of legends, merely a test of what they can actually clear.
>>
>>187042257
I honestly have no idea, i'm just working on a gut feeling. He's already really good, and with the way the + system has been working I just hope they don't make him a sub on inuarashi forever and they at least rework him to compete with it. But that's a really good idea, I haven't thought of the poison mechanic, that's definitely a possibility.

I just hope when and if Fuji gets a + they give him the Lucci treatment. Without a matching orb he's pretty fuckin' awful... Not that I mind sometimes playing control.
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>>187042260
First in, Last out!
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>>187042389
I mean, you are honestly right fundamentally. I actually do absolutely agree with you. Comparing Shanks was a bad argument, but he's still a bad unit.
>>
>1multi
>8dupes
>3 new
>0 legend
Trap sugo, dont pull
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>>187042784
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>>187042558
>I honestly have no idea, i'm just working on a gut feeling. He's already really good, and with the way the + system has been working I just hope they don't make him a sub on inuarashi forever and they at least rework him to compete with it. But that's a really good idea, I haven't thought of the poison mechanic, that's definitely a possibility.
I actually wouldn't mind him becoming a sub for Inurashi. As it stands, one Inu and one croc is the ultimate cerebral team, but off-matching captains is the worst fucking thing to deal with. Poison and Mega damage reduction are the only two mechanics that I think make sense flavor wise to croc.

Personally, I don't think Fuji needs a +, I just think there needs to be some more driven stuff. Even then, Shooters are by far the absolute worst class in the game, and I'd rather see some support for them first.
>>
>>187042260
Get your dream, man.
>>
>>187042756
He's certainly nothing special, yeah.

I still would be really happy to pull one, if only because I have slow legends with high clearrates, I'd certainly like something to blitz through Magellan, Sabo and random 30 stam colos I need to farm.
My actual worry would be that a socketed out Shanks team clears almost everything in the game at more or less the highest consistent speed, and has spare slots for utility, and I would actually get bored of using him.
>>
How about this.
Croc's special now works one more turn if you kill soneone the turn it's used.
>>
I'm gonna do a solo pull and resist afterwards.
>>
Jesus christ, boys.
I got 6 fucking silvers. Wew lads. I did get Vander Decken and Fukaboshi, though.

No Neptune, though, just fucking kill me. But Vander is actually really fucking nice pull.
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Hmmmmm. Caesar is a white whale so I think it went well.
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>>187043010
I feel like he'd be a good candidate for a downward special, something like ends your turn but resist 100% of damage this turn, help him get around some of the things that really push him out.
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>>187043065
Oh damn, guys, I'm getting that Sugo urge. Should I do a multi?
>>
>765 posts

new thread?
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>>187043216
Im this >>187042859 post. I actually really fucking love this idea.
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>>187043226
B
U
I
L
T
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I'd like to pull a new legend some day
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>>187043176
They're really good RR, good shit. Didn't miss at all.
>>187043195
I'm a really big fan of corazon, if you didn't have him yet congrats. Not only can he clear forests but he's a great sub on ts luffy. If you don't have him hopefully we get him on the +1 soon. Ts luffy is such a mistake, playing non aggro subs doesn't make you one shot less content.

>>187043226
I'm so tempted to pull but for the wrong reasons. Neptune, Shriyoshi, and new Law... Fuck, I love strikers.
>>
>>187043195
Amazing time to pull Caesar, Baby 5, Smoker and Pink if you didn't have them already. You pretty much pulled every single unit that Shambles drops books for, during skillup.
Pink books real soon.
I'm so sorry about Cora. Good + some day soon.
>>
>>187043402
>Neptune
>Caribou
>AND fucking Vander
>Complains
Why do shits like you get the good luck.
>>
>>187043405
>>187043461
Yeah Cora is new and I can't be sad getting any new legend. Smoker and Machvise are the only other new units. I wish I saved Smokers books.
>>
>>187043268
New thread

>>187043607
>>187043607
>>187043607
>>187043607
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>Do two singles
>Maynard and Maynard
What did bamco mean by this
>>
>>187035495
I dont get why so many people dont like legend buggy, he seems so good for clearing the easier side of content and the 100% extra drop helps a lot
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Got my first legend croc and the entirety of syrup village. No new batch units.
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Posting results. Going for that 18th red.
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>>187044264
Sharley, Fukaboshi, Vander Decken, dupe city other than that. +1 was 5 star senor pink whomst is max level.
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>>187043348
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