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Welcome to the Sonic General. Here we talk all about everything Sonic! Share art and music, discuss about new developments, ROM hacks, speedrunning, comics, and more!

/sthg/ #877 - SonAmy is For Cucks Edition

>Sonic News<
Sonic Mania has released on PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch! You can purchase the game digitally from each platform's respective digital stores. The PC version will be released on Steam on August 29th.

Sonic Mania - Launch Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Tka60EWWU

Sonic Mania Delayed on PC to August 29th
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/896047869773217797

No Mania DLC Planned
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/08/16/sega-says-that-there-are-currently-no-plans-to-bring-dlc-to-sonic-mania/

>General Interest Links<
EVENT: /sthg/ is currently doing a marathon of all the Sonic cartoons! The daily stream will start at 5PM EST with a second showing at 9PM EST.
A link to the room will be provided in the thread when the streams start and also here: https://pastebin.com/cSDTQwmM

General Link Compilation
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

/sthg/'s Drawfag Booru
http://theride.booru.org/

/sthg/ Level Development Kit 4.0:
https://mega.nz/#!WV8ThDbL!DsLYUlzdBiNX3CaJyJU-oeU8UNxdYPttzQ9LUJA7G7g

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2

Last Thread: >>186369242
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why was the last thread so horrible?
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can we do this but with infinite's theme or fist bump or the blue sphere song or something

https://youtu.be/9hW8-Sv0yUs?list=LL4_8vc5_0224MSksuiuPmFQ
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>>186429241
Not enough Chaos Diamonds posting
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>>186429241
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>>186429241
Same reason the last few threads have been horrible: Shitposters trying to get (You)s from people new to this general & morons who fall for bait
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Just discovered this.

https://youtu.be/R_KfRUJ__so?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/XkJ4M2mnkrI?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/KC7Uuw0iWYA?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/g-HvsKvBunU?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/J_MlW5sj0XY?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/2CtRIrNdXyI?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/0lNnjqWXrIA?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/Uih5ISxbt0k?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/Gpjl4YPZgjk?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/-MoqZ3E3WSo?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/YtOnQLdW39A?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/y3xN4zE14-c?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/_A-oPOxrqkc?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
https://youtu.be/gKB1LbOjb2c?list=PLtcdq7JNdFp6qxWBdx54t77ptKV1EnG0T
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>>186429382
>all prepubescent voices
god this sucks

i'm 1000%%% down for infinite's theme or fist bump lmao they'd be so stupidly fun
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LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL

https://strawpoll.com/hdpd55e3
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SonAmy is cute.
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Anyone got the link to the Stream that >186428308 was talking about?
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The stream reminds me of how annoying it is for one person being praised for everything.

I know that some people don't know everything and some are innocent about it, but I felt the secondhand embarrassment when a user spoke to Hyper Potions and assumed that they did the whole OST when they only did 3 tracks for the game.
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Amy's original design >>>>>>>
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>>186429539
last page

>>186429241
because of shitty comics
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>THE TIE-BREAKER FOR COMPETITION MODE IS A PUYO MATCH
FUCK
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Link to the Stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB_tjD1QCtA
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>>186429837
all these years of puyo tetris prepared me for this
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>Studiopolis.

WHY IS THE SHUTTERBUG SO CUTE?

Best badnik 2017
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>>186429759
So this is where that leopard print outfit in Sonic Rivals came from.
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>>186429792
and thus we are now finally only HALFWAY through the comic
I'm gonna take a break
I'll start posting later tonight or tomorrow

also depends if people still want this shit posted, I don't want to force it in the thread if no one wants it
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are we happy Sonic Mania is beloved?
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>>186430017
I wanna ride this to the end. Later though.
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Remember that episode of Sonic SatAM where Antoine became king of a cannibalistic tribe that was about to eat him?
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>>186430017
what the motherfuck are they doing here
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Shadamy or SonAmy? cause ya'll voting for the cuck option right now

https://strawpoll.com/hdpd55e3
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>>186430659
Obvious recolor is obvious.
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>>186430659
Anon, you already posted this poll. In this very thread
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>>186430659
>ShadAmy is literally a vocal minority
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>>186429009
Porn when?
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>>186431110
To be fair, all shippers are a vocal minority. Maybe we should all just get along?
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So what happens now? Sonic Mania is the highest reviewed Sonic in probably decades, and as someone who loved and loved 3&K, I think it might be even better than that with a bit of patching.

Like how do we even go forward from here? Letting Whitehead and team do an all-original game without any neck-breathing or shoulder-watching is the obvious choice, but will it happen? I'm still kind of baffled that a Sonic game is this good, I've beaten it five times now and I still want to play it more.
>>186430201
S L O W & S T E A D Y
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>>186430659
neither
sonadow
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>>186431362
Assemble a bigger dev team so we can get more features and levels, of course
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>>186431362
What I hope will happen is
>SEGA has Taxman & team make another 2D game with more original stages, etc.
>SEGA has Sonic Team continue to make 3D games with a more Adventure like tone
>Classic fans get the games they want, Modern fans get the gameplay they want from 3D games going forward, & Adventure fans get the tone they want from 3D games going forward
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BREAKING NEWS

BARCELONA RELIGION OF PEACE VAN HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SONICS DOING, AS EGGMAN DINDU NUFFIN
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z1Hjtklq60

How does this make you feel?
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>>186431621
The one true ship.
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>>186431730
are you trying to make me angry
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>>186431703
SUSPECT WAS IDENTIFIED AS ORGANIC HEDGEHOG M. ETAL SONIC, WHEN WILL THIS VIOLENCE BY ORGANICS END?!
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>>186431362
Hopefully Classic Sonic is turned into the sub-series they wanted Boom to be games wise. Mania devs hopefully stay on board and can crack out Classic Sonic games while Sonic Team do their 3D thing. And hopefully SEGA will put out some spin-off games like Riders or All-Stars stuff again.
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>>186431730
Am I the only one who didn't really have trouble with these? They're super fun and I really hope we get more as an update or in a sequel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Vh1qiP4Sg
>the rap is fucking Eggman dropping the heat
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>>186431730
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Heavy Magician is my girlfriend
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>>186432121
That's what it is in the original, too. Metallic Madness was such a pleasant surprise.
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HEY HEY HEY
HEY HEY HEY
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Fun is Infinite - Sega Enterprises
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>No unlockable characters
>No unlockable Metal or Amy

I just don't get it. Fucking I expected a new character when I got all gold medals, instead I got jack fucking shit. Why would I want to play MORE blue sphere after spending hours perfecting each stage?.

I highly doubt there will be DLC, but if there is, I want Metal or Amy. Preferably Metal.
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>>186431275
I'd love that. Though some people can't have some discourse with foaming at the mouth.
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>>186432479
Both would be the hypest shit ever.
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>>186432069
I'm awful at them and I'm also awful at finding the rings so I can't practice them as often as blue spheres
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>>186432479
Well to be fair, they did say that the Genesis trio were the only playable characters in Mania. Shouldn't be too surprised that turned out to be the case.

They better be in Mania 2 tho
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>>186432631
>Mania 2

No, I want them NOW

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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>>186432717
Then wait for PC mods, senpai
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>>186432479
When I saw that Metal had ball-form sprites I got a little excited, desu
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3rd time through this stage and now I find out you can destroy these
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>>186432930
The boss fight was still kind of disappointing. I wanted a rematch race.
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>>186433112
It's far and away the best Metal fight so far, that isn't saying much though.
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>>186433219
>It's far and away the best Metal fight so far, that isn't saying much though.


you what
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Sonic Adventure 3 when?
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>>186433628
When Half Life 3 is released.
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>>186433628
It was released back in 2006, go play it.
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>>186433219
this desu, i played it ~20 mins ago for the first time and genuinely enjoyed both the throwback bots and the hybrid of race/fight
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>>186433418
>CD
>Triple Trouble
>4
>Generations
Only CD has any weight because it's nostalgic. I haven't played Chaotix enough to get to Metal but I really doubt it's some amazing shit. If you're counting Fighters then get outta my face.
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>>186434082
Chaotic's fight is fucking awful. It's basically a roulette.
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>>186434312
>>186434082
I just wanted a race tho
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXQzJXH228
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>>186434472
Then play CD
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>>186434709
but its a staple of the series for metal and sonic to race
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>>186434834
>but its a staple of the series for metal and sonic to race
>They literally only ever raced twice
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>>186434914
Don't you know if something happens more than once in a series it is a staple of it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7jzIhJ1X3g this song is making me nostalgic

I can't believe Unleashed, Black Knight, and Colors all came out almost a decade ago
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>>186434914
Um ex fucking scuse me shitlord
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>>186430659
Neither. Sonaze and Blamy
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>>186435090
>Having to count any Racing games because Metal and Sonic barely ever race
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>>186434914
Yeah but it was a really cool moment everyone remembers. Like death egg

Which has been used 6 times
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>>186434834
I understand what you're saying but I'd rather have a quality boss battle (which I got) than sticking to the status quo just because.
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>>186434834
>Classic Sonic beats the shit out of Metal Sonic before kicking him into oblivion in Generations
>Super Sonic fucking maims him in Metal Overlord and then cockily tells him to try again some other time
>Knuckles beats his face in when he went all Metallix or whatever in Chaotix without even needing a Super mode
>gets royally fucked over in pretty much any other attempts to fight/kill Sonic, or at least ends up a sore loser at the end
>but a race with CD and a baby easy homage with S4E2 means it always has to be a race
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>>186435337
You're lucky I didn't pull out the big guns on you
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>>186435335
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>>186435347
It's iconic, but not a staple
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>>186433219
I wish it was more difficult.
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>>186434834
My favorite part of Sonic Heroes is when everyone raced Metal Sonic. Shit was so cash.
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>>186435335
I still think it's hilariously adorable that Blaze has problems with being flatchested for her age.
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>>186435664
Metal Sonic is like the halfway point in Mania instead of the climax boss like CD
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>>186435664
I agree, Mania would've benefited from a hard mode, but it also would've benefitted from twice as many stages and bosses and playable Amy and Metal Sonic so oh well.
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>>186432479

Aaron confirmed there would be no DLC on-stream.
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>>186432479
Why did they give Gamma such a horrible voice actor in Sonic X? Actually, why was Sonic X as a whole so fucking bad?

>Mediocre animation
>QUALITY voice acting
>Terrible humor
>That god-awful music that plays each and every single time Sonic does a spin dash
>Every 5 seconds there's some cheap action music playing or something that oversaturates the mood (Characters don't need theme music just for fucking existing, the entire show may as well be one really awful musical)
>Main (human) character is a useless rich kid who has living stereotypes for servants
>Show lacks creativity and they eventually resort to making seasons based on butchering the events from previous Sonic games (Adventure arc being the most atrocious by far)
>The one time they decide to do something original it ends poorly (Fucking everything about the Metarex arc)
>Cream and Amy are cute, but their Sonic X versions are colossal cringe magnets
>Everything about Sonic's power scaling (He needs a fucking ring to do anything useful, AKA a plot device to make Chris relevant, and gets his ass kicked too damn often)
>Want to list more but realize this post is getting too damn long and I don't want to remember EVERYTHING about that fucking sorry excuse for a cartoon

I have no idea why I genuinely liked that show as a kid. I was super hyped to watch it every weekend, but when I look back at it now Sonic X was fucking trash. Maybe younger me was a bit autistic, or I just liked the concept of a cartoon based on a great video game franchise.
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>>186435868
>or I just liked the concept of a cartoon based on a great video game franchise.
This is the more likely answer.

>musical
New Sonic musical when?
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>>186435685
>third time this thread
Give it a rest, jesus. You can post it in the next thread, I guess.
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>>186435856
>give Unleashed and Lost World DLC
>don't give Generations or Mania, both perfect vessels for DLC any at all
Cool business Sega, keep it up
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>>186436146
don't worry, forces will probably give you DLC in the form of $5 shirts for your avatar
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>>186435838
>Twice as many stages

Hell no, maybe more original stages but going over 12 would probably take like 6 hours for a single playthrough. Sonic's meant to be fast and quick, not drag out and be padded
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>>186431730
It's Super Sonic Snaking
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>>186436146
Better yet they blew their budget giving 06 of all games DLC

Also Lost World DLC's was probably funded by Nintendo
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>>186435838
what would hard mode even do?
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>>186436215
>he isn't going to pay for the $35 DLC that gives your avatar costumes that make them look like uglier versions of the characters people would've much rather had playable
Scrubnik
>>186436228
I mean more in the sense of Knuckles' stages being completely different (layout wise), or giving Tails a unique set like Knuckles, etc. rather than doubling the game in length.
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>>186435856
>>186435856
When did he say that? I don't think anyone expected to do as well as Mania is doing, so it might change
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>>186436215
Well there is a rumor that Forces will have DLC, that'll be attires based off of Puyo Puyo or JSR for your OC.
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>>186431730
He's God:
https://youtu.be/mB3tKwAKHp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkeQfsk8zY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUElS_xpdPM
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>>186436538
Knuckles just has unique routes, for the most part his stages are the same. I think the exception being Mirage Saloon Act 1

It was the same in S3&K
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>>186436563
I'm pretty sure that's confirmed.
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>>186435868
It's pretty funny how bad Sonic X is.

Mega Man NT Warrior was even more blatant in that it was a cash grab cartoon designed to sell a series of niche alternate-universe Mega Man games/figures and capitalize on an existing and nowhere near as abundant popularity, yet it ended up being so much better
in almost every way for the most part and lasted over 200 episodes.

That alone tells me some shit went wrong with X, I almost want to see them take another crack at it.
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>>186431231
The motobug looks really mad.
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>>186436563
Haha NiGHTS and JSR might be dead but you can dress your deviantArt OC like them to stave off the pain for only $10 :^)
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>>186435868
Yeah we loved it as kids because it was Sanic. Today? eh, it's claim to fame of being the only tv series based on the games isn't even a good thing anymore. It's part of the problem.
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>>186436808
Rockman EXE anime was dogshit in every way, regardless of whether or not it was "better" than Sonic X. Limping along and getting more episodes has nothing to do with quality.
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>>186436880
Well IIRC SEGA did a poll around last year or so asking people what non-Sonic series would people like to see back.
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>>186437107
Any idea who won?
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Hey guys. I like Sonic!
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>>186437248
Which Sonic?
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>>186437248
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>>186437248
Me too, anon! Wanna be friends!
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>>186437248
Fucking loser
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>>186437331
All Sonics!
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In order to prepare for Sonic Mania's PC release I've decided to play the classic Sonic games and finish them legit. I'm playing 1 in Generations on the ps3 right now, then I'll play 2 on 3DS, then I'll play CD on Android, then I'll emulate 3&K on my PSP and hopefully once I'm not shit at those games anymore and manage to finish them legitimately (chaos emeralds optional), I'll play Mania on PC when it comes out.
This is so comfy

I do have questions though
>Is it normal for the Generations version of Sonic 1 to have input lag? It feels like when I jump or move, it doesn't happen right away.
What's the name of that little webcomic where the artist did a page for every act? All I remember was in one of the Spring Yard ones Sonic was running and then he notices one of those "COPE" signs in the background and stares at it preplexedly.
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>>186437215
Jet Set Radio, iirc
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>>186436552

Pretty early on, before they started playing the game. From the reason they gave, it doesn't sound like they're going to change their mind on it (aka they wanted all the content in the game from the start).
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>>186437248
What, why?
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>>186437215
Sakura Wars, followed by Jet Set Radio.
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>>186437451
Cool. My personal favorite is NiGHTS but JSR is a close second, and NiGHTS already for a second chance even if it was by Shadow-era Sonic Team.
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>tfw the hooligans showed up
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>>186437420
Did you mean "Not Enough Rings", anon?
Also, basement?
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>>186436924
I respectfully disagree. It was severely inoffensive and wasn't even bad, just not particularly interesting or innovative, and you can very easily have an episodic kids series that doesn't bring anything special to the table without it being straight garbage.

Rockman EXE was fine in that the characterization was enjoyable, the fights weren't totally terrible, humor was alright and the plot wasn't a stupid mess. The weakest part is probably the butchering dub, but Sonic X suffered from this aswell. I believe it's a fairly good example of a purely "alright!" kids series in that it doesn't do anything worth freaking out about but it accomplishes its job competently, very well. Sonic X wasn't just alright, it was bad in that it was barely watchable, and I can't say the same for EXE.
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>>186437467
Pretty much.

Also, Take a look at these and ask me if you want these two in the next game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqQJW3WYo0c&t=548s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqQJW3WYo0c&t=548s
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>>186437523
He's cool and fast and in good video games
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>>186437653
I really hope they show up "for real" in the next game. Seeing Fang pop out of that box (I played Knuckles first) made me nearly squeal.
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>>186437767
I enjoyed watching X both as a kid and with /sthg/
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>>186437974
>the anniversary coin are the medals you get in blue sphere
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>>186437467
>Doesn't sound like they're going to change their mind on it

Hmm, if only there was a way they would reconsider.
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>>186435868
>QUALITY voice acting
>Terrible humor
>That god-awful music that plays each and every single time Sonic does a spin dash
>Every 5 seconds there's some cheap action music playing or something that oversaturates the mood (Characters don't need theme music just for fucking existing, the entire show may as well be one really awful musical)

But that was only in the dub. The sub has none of those problems.
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>>186438224
Doesn't make it less likable. Both versions are still fucking garbage.
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>>186437767
they're equally hard to watch because they take a source material rife with potential and just shit on it both with terrible stories and god awful art direction

i'd say sonic x is better because at least they tried to adapt the source material, even though they did a terrible job of it. exe dumbed down the setting and scenario at every opportunity.
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>>186438180
How much would you pay Sega to get Mania DLC?
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>>186438123
>tfw you own a coin and you've gotten all gold medals and never fucking noticed
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>>186431231
Not soon enough.
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>>186437756
That was it, thanks Anon!
Living room, the picture made it way too dark, here's one with a lamp on.
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>>186438224
>dumb weeaboo unironically defending sonic x

I can list 10 more problems that are relevant in both subbed and dubbed versions. Just shut up.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/sonic-mania-review-2017-8

People with opinions this shitty deserve to actually die
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>>186438354
Pretty sure they are the same design, just gold.
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>>186436924
>>186437767
It's called Mega Man Battle Network, you weebs.
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>>186438508
Who fucking cares, it was a fad to get people back into Mega Man after a bunch of shitty X games killed interest anyway
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>>186438461
Sonic stood up Amy again.
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>>186438348
I'd pay 5-7 for 3 new levels. 10 if ice cap was in.
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>>186438706
What a smart rat
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>>186438706
Good. Amy deserves to be bullied
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>>186438582
maybe you should go shit up their general with that bad opinion instead of this one
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>>186438429
You're welcomeOh I was off completely,I was just curious.

>>186438123
That would've been neat, desu.
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>>186438448
>Meme about how Sonic was never good for years
>Good Sonic game comes out
>Those memers are now going "W-well, we just meant 3D Sonic/Mania is just the first good Sonic game guys!"
The state of these people

>>186438771
>>186438742
You're both sick.
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>>186438339
>>186437767
>>186436924
battle network's animation wasn't off model every 5 seconds and those things alone made it watchable

BN was far closer to the source material overall, the changes weren't for the better but at least with the first two seasons i could say "this is the battle network anime". it stayed true to its concept up until stream

sonic x fucked up with a sonic series as soon as we learned chris existed and sonic became more of a supporting character because there has to be a bunch of human companions despite the games not holding such a thing
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>>186438968
they changed a bus hijacking into a girl locked in her limo having to go to the bathroom

it's rockman exe for babies.
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>>186438841
>That would've been neat, desu.
That's actually what they are, anon.
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I haven't played Sonic Mania yet, since I haven't got a console, but I'm already kinda turning against it because it's giving all these "sanic no work in teedee" chucklefucks more ammunition.
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>>186439309
That's a really stupid reason to turn against a game.
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>>186439309
Think of it this way. It's giving Sonic Team a reason to fucking TRY. We should love Mania for it's serious effort.
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>>186439201
Oh I didn't look closely. My apologies, anon. That's really neat though.
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>>186438079
X bro
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>>186438946
And a big fucking hammer.
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>>186439309
I know it's annoying, anon, but try not to let people like that get to you. The game is solid.
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I'm on Sonic Channel and looking at character bios. Listed in order:
>Sonic, Tails, Eggman, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Cream, Rouge, Big
>Chao, Super Sonic, Vector, Charmy, Espio, Omega, Jet, Storm, Wave, Blaze
>Silver, Chaos, Gamma, Tikal, Emerl, Metal Sonic, Marine, Werehog, Chip, Sticks
>Eggman Nega and Orbot & Cubot

I guess these are the characters Sega gives a fuck about
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>>186439309
Don't hold it against Mania that shitposters & memers are still desperate to shit on something Sonic-related. Besides with Mania out & getting so much praise, it may give ST motivation to improve their 3D formula next time.
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>>186439309
That makes no fucking sense, I like 3d Sonic but that doesn't mean you can't support Mania too, I hate those people too but I just trying to stay away from them and do my own thing.
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Do you think Amy cries herself to sleep after being rejected by Sonic all the time? I mean it has to sting a little.
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>>186439873
She's an eternal optimist, like that'll get her down.

She probably just watches a sad romantic movie to help her get over it at least
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>>186435079
Live Life is my favorite Crush 40 song.
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>>186439638
Well marine hasnt been a game for years and yet deadly six have appeared in more games despite no sonic channel art.
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>>186439638
So basically everyone that has showed up in a game in the past decade (Gamma, Tikal, and Emerl aside seeing as they made no real re-appearances post-Unleashed besides the GIzoids in Chronicles)
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>>186440708
Probably cause the Deadly Six are gaijin designs. They'll be added later most likely

>>186440815
The entire third row is filled with one-hit wonders except Metal Sonic

Honestly what's fucked up to me is translating Eggman Nega's bio reveals Rivals is canon. So either there are two Eggman Negas or Blaze's alternate dimension was the future
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>>186439309
At first I was angry about this level of stupidity but then I realized the only one you're hurting is yourself and I stopped giving a shit
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Excuse me what

This is after dying in labyrinth act 3 (fuck labyrinth act 3 by the way, as you can see I was almost ay the top and a fucking spear came out at exactly water level and I couldn't see it).

Playing the Generations version if that helps figure out the fuck is wrong here.
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>>186439873
Her theme says sometimes she can't sleep at night. So yeah, probably crying herself to sleep.
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>>186441019
Or Nega traveled back in time and ended up in Blaze's dimension somehow.
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>>186441019
>Honestly what's fucked up to me is translating Eggman Nega's bio reveals Rivals is canon. So either there are two Eggman Negas or Blaze's alternate dimension was the future
At this point, there is barely any continuity beyond the barest of threads. Games canonize and uncanonize whatever the fuck they want once they decide they want to use or reshuffle certain elements pre-established.

It's plausible that Eggman Nega in Rivals basically became what he was independently of the Eggman Nega in Rush, but apparently it's official that Silver and Nega are from the future, Blaze is from the Sol Dimension. Which implies either the Eggman in Blaze's dimension hasn't shown up yet, there is no equivalent, or he's dead.
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>fucking around in debug as Knuckles
>placing signs and finishing levels quickly
>fuck around in Hydrocity 2 for a bit
>place another sign and finish level
>it loads up sky chase version of mirage saloon but with Knuckles on the front of the plane
>Magician knocks an invisible "GOT" from level clear text off of the plane
>mfw
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>>186441019
>implying Eggman Nega didn't just lie to cover his identity in front of his past ancestor only to turn on him after the Rush games when he finds out that Eggman really can't beat Sonic, even with his help
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>>186441539
It's hilarious because some of these answers would be so easy to fix if they so much as gave enough of a fuck

>>186441723
Probably likely
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i think we're missing the important question here
eggman got to fuck someone hard enough to spread his yolk into the future
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>>186441539
There is only one Eggman Nega. Just like there is only one Blaze and there is only one Sonic
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>>186439823
Eh, that one's old and has been already uploaded.
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>>186441858
*was only one Sonic
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>>186441341
I think she's referring to how thinking about Sonic keeps her up all night. But that works too.
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i went from a Nicolefag to an Amyfag over a month period

what the hell happened to me
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>>186441882
Why is it $300+ though?
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>>186441825
He could just clone himself.
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>>186441825
Or he has siblings/cousins.
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>>186441858
I'm saying specifically that there's multiple Eggmans due to timeline shenanigans, but moreso the fact that Sonic and Blaze are eachother's equivalents in their own dimensions. The Rush games made it seem like Nega was the equivalent to Eggman in the Sol Dimension, but now that he's from the future, that means either that sort of thing doesn't apply for anyone but Sonic and Blaze, or they just haven't had the real Sol Eggman matter if he does exist.
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In regards to Mirage Saloon's music:

Knuckles' > Act 2 > Sonic's
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silver sonic is cute! CUTE!

what were you guys' reactions when he appeared? i was super happy during the boss itself and then he appeared and honestly i had to pause it and rant to a friend about it.
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>>186441996
You couldn't resist how cute Amy is. Happens to all of us
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>>186442309
I just had a good chuckle, a big grin and then a bit of a frustrated groan when I realized I had no idea how to do damage to Metal Sonic for a solid minute
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>>186441996
Nicole is dead and you will never see her in anything again.
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>>186442249
Excellent taste, friend
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>>186442309
The only way it could've been any better was if Mecha and Robo Sonic were in the game too. Kind of a shame they weren't

What got me though was that they were basically just Badniks
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>>186441996
I guess we all move on eventually. I still miss lynx girl.
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>>186442309
I was very happy to see it. Was a nice reference and boss fight.
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>>186442489
This, got hyped for a second when I thought Mecha was going to show up. Still glad he got referenced in K's story though.
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>>186442103
>that sort of thing doesn't apply for anyone but Sonic and Blaze
Yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPnepwOj_o
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>>186442804
Well in a way Marine if she was actually a good character would've been Blaze's equivalent to Tails

>Racoon/Fox
>Also a mechanic, I think
>About a year younger than Tails, same as Blaze to Sonic
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>>186442805
>reminded that sammyclassicsonicfan exists

I actually really hope he enjoyed mania as much as I did.
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>>186438348
DLC cheapens the game and makes it seem less whole imo, I'd rather they spend that effort on a sequel.
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>>186439309
If you see someone doing that, remind them of how shit Sonic 4 was. It has nothing to do with dimensions and everything to do with just making a good game.
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>>186443575
you know his schtick has always been an act, right
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>>186443338
Marine's not really a mechanic. She did build a boat and a jet ski, the latter of which caught up with a boat powered by both the 7 Chaos and Sol Emeralds, but it seems like sea-faring vehicles are all she knows how to build.

>tfw we'll never know what exactly she did at the end of Rush Adventure
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>>186444483
>Tails takes to the air and ties in with Sonic's wind motif, the two mixing together naturally as friends
>Marine is natural to the sea and clashes with Blaze's flame motif, the two coming into conflict rather harshly before settling differences
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post cute rats
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>>186444654
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>>186444371
Not really. He was being genuine, but then his parents gave him meds.
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>>186442317
>Liking Amy
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>>186444785
he's literally admitted it was fake before
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>>186443575
I'm incredibly sad that neither Mariotehplumber nor SammyClassicSonicFan have made videos on Mania or Forces.
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>>186444718
Delete this right fucking now
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>TIHYDP Sonic Adventure 2
>The Final Rush part
This is delicious.
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>>186444965
I'm waiting for the Let's Endure, myself.
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>>186444929
but why, anon? OVA is cute!
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Forces is playing it too safe.
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>>186444718
F
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>>186445028
>Let's Endure
I tried those. I found SoK to be pretty obnoxious when they keep saying the same thing over and over.
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>>186445028
This fag still does shit?
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>>186445035
There can be only one Sonic.
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>>186445142
It depends on who's on for the night. Sometimes they make a TIHYDP better, but there are definitely a few they've made worse.
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Classic Knuckles is best Knuckles.
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>>186445035
It's too bad we'll never see that world again, but then again getting rid of the mystery would probably make it lose a lot of charm. That OVA was a fucking one in a million gem.
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>>186445068
that thumbnail makes forces look like it has comic style shading. I would commit war crimes for a sonic game with that style of art
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>>186445142
>tfw know somebody who used to be with SoK
>He left because he got bored of it all

>>186445376
>Not Classic Tails
There's barely a difference between Modern and Classic Knux, but Modern feels like he has slightly better proportions
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You all remembered to fill out SEGA's buyer survey for Mania, right?
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>>186445143
Yeah, he actually says SA1 is better than SA2 for the sole reason that he's dying more on Final Rush than anything else. I mean I know Sonic rails were pretty bad back then when you try to move from one to the other, but he's just fucking awful at this game.

https://youtu.be/yBe086z66tQ?t=43m48s
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>>186445492
Classic Tails is good too, Anon.

>>186445554
Yes, I told them I didn't like Mania's cover art because I hated yellow.
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>>186445415
literally this. i've ranted about it before so i won't again, but god i love the ova.
i wish it had a happy ending sequel. :(

>>186445180
>>186445139
F
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>>186445492
>He left because he got bored of it all
Honestly I don't blame him. Phil is a broken record. He's okay every once in a while but joining a community of people just to follow his dumb ass will burn you out unless you're full autism.
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>>186445554
Yes, anon. I begged for more Sonic merchandise and for me being the only one to persist on considering making music boxes.
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>>186445554
No because I dunno what that is or how.
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WHY DO THEY NOT MAKE SA3

WHERE IS SA3

REEEEEEEEE
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>>186445989
They already made Sonic Advance 3
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>>186445989
Dumb ironic (hopefully) reee poster.
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>>186445116
People usually say that Silver is Shadow's descendant but wouldn't it be crazy if he was Sonic's? Especially with Mephiles wanting Silver to kill him and everything. I'm glad they ultimately didn't make Silver related to anyone though, too many shipping wars would break out.
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>>186445989
They already did.
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>>186442103
Was it ever stated that Sonic and Blaze are counterparts? I don't remember...
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>>186445819
I messed up my intention on the second part. I meant even though I'm the only one who cares, I persist them to consider making music boxes.
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>>186445957
I dunno how you access it on Switch but if you have the game on PS4 and hover over it in the system menu, you can press down and find it under the trophy listing.
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>>186445709
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>>186446087
>>186446087
>>186446105
>>186446170
FUCK YOU ALL I WANT SONIC ADVENTURE 3

IF I DON'T GET ADVENTURE 3 I WILL HANG MYSELF
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>>186446418
What is 06?
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>>186445819
I asked for Big the Cat socks.
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>>186446451
FUCKING SHIT AND NOT ADVENTURE 3
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>>186446601
It is both those things.
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>>186446569
I'd be down for that.
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SatAM replay on now!
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Sonic Advance bright version.
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>>186446418
What the fuck would Adventure 3 even be about? They could have called Heroes, 06 or Unleashed 'Sonic Adventure 3' and people still wouldn't be happy. What the fuck do you even want?
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with bright sonic
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why does kayla-na always draw herself fucking mighty
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>>186446824
THOSE WEREN'T GOOD AND THEREFORE NOT SA3
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>>186447058
link
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYgKPjPNMs

Man, why did they half-ass all the endings in Mania?
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>>186447058
She has a Mighty big hankering for that armadillo dick
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>>186447058
Cause he's her husbando
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Here me out here
Infinite is an alternate reality version of Buddy warped by the Ruby
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>>186447425
Since Infinite and the OC maker were revealed, I have sincerely wanted the final boss of Forces to be Infinite pulling off his mask, and revealing he's the dark and edgy counterpart to the Buddy you made at the start of the game.
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Doing a request stream + a little of draw ing my own shit too maybe.
I'll do Mania request also long it has no spoiler to the ending.
https://picarto.tv/GeekofLove
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>>186447125
The endings of the classics weren't really much anyways. seems fine.
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>>186446418
see you in hell then
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>>186447870
Damnit ya always stream when I'm at work Geek!
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>>186447695
It was shown the heavies were 'made' by the ruby so it makes perfect sense, even down to becoming edgy as fuck
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k lov salyjr andm u lov yomboys
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>>186448168
I sorry :<
It's like late over here my man
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>>186448059
Sonic Mania's are Sonic 1/3 tier. You'd think the game that ties into Forces would have more emphasis on its endings compared to something like 2 or S&K

Tails or Knuckles don't even get unique endings if they get all the Chaos Emeralds. The only other ending than the Forces cliffhanger is Knuckles reading his book which is a still image
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>>186448271
Nah it's all good. Have fun
draw me a rooj
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>>186447125

I'm pretty sure all "story" related stuff was done last minute.
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>>186430017
Are we ready to go guys
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now that the dust has settled will we get to see sonic advance soon
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>>186448576
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Advance_(Android)
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>>186448534
>It begins
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IS` magnia goods
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>>186448534
>First chaos diamond now this
When does the ride end?
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>>186448256
The thought of Sally making Sonic X even worse is gross.
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>>186448534
Will probably stop at page 54
I wanted to throw more pages in before we finish off tomorrow
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>>186448948
movinn at ped of sounf wuikickt hedgeog around
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>>186448708
That's a cute Sal!
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>>186448948
>implying her bantz wouldn't make it better
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>>186448990
forgot pic
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>>186448994
>been forever since I've had my Bunnie fill
I miss her.
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>>186449168
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>>186449216
bunnie fuckree french cuk used goods
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>>186449358
>Wanna make some quick doe?
>doe
What did he mean by this?
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>>186448617
why you gotta be smart for
you could've just said "oh they already did for android"
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>>186449358
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>>186444651
>Marine is natural to the sea and clashes with Blaze's flame motif, the two coming into conflict rather harshly before settling differences
Oh my gosh... I never realized this. I always thought Marine didn't work because of water clashing with fire, that she should have had a sun-related motif... but the fact that she conflicts with Blaze in the actual story puts it all into perspective perfectly!
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>ywn caress her cheek when you wake up next to her in the morning
>ywn make her breakfast in bed
>ywn spend the day cuddling her while playing Sonic games
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>>186429518

Too many anons are into Cuckoldry. Shame them
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>>186450546
that sounds comfy
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>>186448994
>Not Amy and Cream
I mean sure I guess.
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>>186448256
If Sally was to show up in a modern cartoon, who do you think should voice her?
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>>186450767
chep bitches
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>>186450835
kath soucie
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>>186450717
I don't get it.
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>>186450953
He's asshurt people like SonAmy more than ShadAmy for some reason.

>>186450546
pls don't remind me that this will never happen ;_;
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>>186450835
I'm not totally sure, but I sure can't see Kath Soucie's voice coming from her again.
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>>186449168
Alright, not gonna lie, I sorta liked this interaction.
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>>186450546
This is going to be a thing in every thread up to #900, isn't it
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>>186451064
Sonamy a shit that's why
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Which is a more true experience for sonic cd, the steam, gamecube, or NA sega cd? I heard there are a tone of differences regarding this game and the regions and platforms so what is the way it should be played.
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>>186445376
>>186445619
This is level select right? I surprised sprites don't glitches like Doomsday
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How fast do you think we'll get our first Mania mod after it comes out on PC?
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>>186450937
She was fine in Satam, but I honestly she sounded too mature for Sally. NICOLE it was fine, she was a computer, but Sally sounded too old. I definitely couldn't imagine her voicing either of them again if we are talking about their comic renditions.
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>>186451314
>namefagging without purpose
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>>186451321
Don't touch the original versions. Taxman's 2011 version is widescreen and 60FPS, there's literally no reason to play the original now. It also includes both the US and JP/PAL OSTs

The only drawback is it doesn't have lyrics for the intro and outro and that the other Taxman remakes are just slightly better
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>>186451586
I just from playing mania im tired and forgot to remove my name
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>>186451481
>>186451065
I keep thinking "she's been voice acting for almost 40 years now, she's gotta be too old" and then I discover some character she played and it sounds like she still has a great vocal range so who knows. I'd at least let her audition for it.
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>>186451586
>Shadamy autist

Don't be surprised
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>>186451481
good she maakes mme ffeel good
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>>186450045
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>>186451065
>>186451481
You are now mentally hearing Kath Soucie voicing Vanilla
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>>186451741
You're all autistic lmao
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>>186451842
my dickkkk
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>>186451842
Rouge is more fitting
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>>186451874
>lmao
Out. Now.
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>>186447058
because she makes a self insert oc for every fandom she gets involved in and makes sure to pair it with a canon guy. every single time.

>>186447230
no he isn't, she just got too much shit for all her comics involving her oc and sonic being married and having kids.
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why is Blue Spheres giving me so much shit jesus christ
i always seem to take a wrong turn into a red sphere at the worst possible moment, or fail to turn in time to avoid one quite right
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>>186451842
>>186452045
the fuck is wrong with you

she'd suit neither
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>>186452510
>older woman known for playing unintentionally sultry female characters wouldn't be suitable for a MILF
You're terrible.
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>>186451830
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>>186452681
That bottom right panel is a good reaction for when any two anons are arguing about something stupid.
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>>186452792
it's weird because the art isn't always bad in this comic, the characters can be surprisingly on-model at times, but then the garbage writing and the real off-model shit kicks in
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>>186452681
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>>186453457
KEKED
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>>186453862
yay color
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>>186453806
absolute madman
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I love that the Hydrocity leak turned out to be 100% legit
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>>186453969
Why does everyone single one of these writers think they're super cool edgy oc is suitable for sonic the fucking hedgehog? Do they all unanimously lack self-awareness?
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>>186453234
The art is really decent right now, honestly. What a fucking waste.
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>>186453969

>>186454417
in my opinion if you're gonna make an oc it should at least look like it'd actually appear in the comic or games
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>>186454605
Or you could just, you know, not. That's always an option.
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>>186454605
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIO-xWkIg9s
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If Knuckles' story is supposed to take place after Sonic's, why is Angel Island not burnt up already and has to be burnt up all over again?
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>>186455701
>time emerald thing was on angel island
>literally just turn back time to a point where there was plant life
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>>186455063
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>>186455701
Magic echidna island juice.
Also a lack of urgency in creating a new mini-boss and entirely different stage assets just for context which is surprisingly one thing Mania surpassed, given Mirage Saloon and Lava Reef.
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Sonic rush adventure is better than sonic rush
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Took me a whole week, but here's a rendering of all 3 versions of Bump.

Which one would you hug?
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>>186455913
is the third one like a Boom Bump?

i like.
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>>186455913
None
Bump is trash
But your art abilites to actual good use and draw Canon characters
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>>186455701
Because Eggrobo is an asshole
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>>186456043
Telling an artist what to draw isn't really as helpful as you think it is
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>>186452217
Proto-Bump?
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>>186455913
Classic Bump should wear a standard Japanese gym uniform to better differentiate her from Modern.

They're cute though, nice work.
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>>186455913
Nice. Good job, anon
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>>186455913
>no Bump on the shirt
Its shit.
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>>186455913
They're all too cute. I'd hug them all without hesitation.

Then ask 2 and 3 for a threesome.
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>>186456226
>>186455913
Seconding this idea!
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>>186456025
Not him, but yeah, that's definitely Boom Bump. I think there's been like one picture of that version so far.
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FINALLY caught up with a week's worth of missed threads. Really impressed with all the awesome content put out in the midst of Mania hype. Y'all are great, guys.
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>>186455913
Nice.
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Sage is a better design than Bump
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>>186455913
W-what did my heart ever do to you man.
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>>186429759
Amy's a Canon Immigrant.
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>>186455864
stopping here
I'll continue whenever
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>>186456578
Wow, you're pretty dedicated anon. Here, you've earned it.
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>>186455913
None.
>sports tape
I guess she runs a lot t-
>sandals
Arrest her.
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>>186455701
It's probably not immediately after, but it's more important to note that Angel Island Zone isn't burnt up in the 14-Emeralds ending, so Sonic or Knuckles probably used the Emeralds to revitalize the zone.

A similar thing happens in Sonic 1 for Master System, where the Emeralds completely wipe out all the pollution from Scrap Brain Zone on South Island.

The burning it up again thing is just reusing assets, of course.
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>>186455913
They're all too cute to just choose one.
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>>186456226
>>186456269
Thank you for your suggestions, I appreciate how much you care. Here's version 2.
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>>186455913
Forgot to mention, middle/Modern bump a cutest.
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>>186457752
Awesome!

Man, there's been a lot of good Bump & Sage lately. Feels good man.
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when this is done, should i package a text file that explains how this whole thing is set-up? are people without 3d experience going to be using this?

things done:
head modeled
tail modeled
body cleaned up (no tris, fixed topology, fixed shirt)
body masked to prevent unseen geometry poking through clothes
jiggle physics/cloth sim for boobs and ass (both body and clothes) including hair
seams marked for uv unwrapping

rig progress:
most of the rig is done and includes inverse kinematics on the limbs and fingers for somewhat easier animating.
also, should i put bones in her ears in case people want to animate her ears twitching?
what about boob/butt bones, or should those be controlled by just physics sims alone
should i rig her mouth too? i'm thinking have her mouth be controlled by shape keys in case the user can't properly form the mouth into various phonemes by hand, and then have a couple bones deform the mouth (to do things like that cartoony side-face mouth)

things to do:
unwrap uvs
texture
parent model to rig
fix model's weight painting as necessary
create shape keys (for swapping eyelashes/muzzles)
create shape key drivers? (depends on the skill-level of whoever is going to be using this)
create materials (i'm thinking about having 3: a standard sonic forces type material, a material with hand-painted textures, and a cartoony material guilty gear xrd style)

pic related shows the rig and bump's body being masked for where the clothes are
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>>186457930
It feels so good, man.
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>>186458016
Forgot pic.
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>>186457963
>are people without 3d experience going to be using this?
Some are and some are not.

>should i package a text file that explains how this whole thing is set-up?
If you want to, I'm sure it'll come in handy for people.

C-can we see a render?
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Would you be happy with Sonic, Tails, Knux, Amy, Shadow, Blaze, and Eggman as the main cast for the next game
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>>186458485
I'd be happy with a good game that's fun to play.
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>>186458507
Man, it's been a long time.
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>>186458485
No. Shadow should have his friends too.
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>>186458485
I will never be happy
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>>186458485
If it was fun and not just boost yeah.
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>>186456915
>stopping on a cliffhanger
BASTARD!
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>can't talk about Forces anywhere on 4chan since everyone on the website desperately wants the game to fail even if it comes out and ends up being good.
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>>186458547
You're cute. I like you

>>186458710
Okay fine, Omega and Rouge too

>>186458725
im sorry anon
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>>186458808
Thanks, Mania!
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>>186458842
And to think Mania wouldn't exist if it weren't for Forces
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>>186458894
It would, it just wouldn't be a lazy tie in.
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>>186458808
I don't want Forces to fail. I've been hyped for it & Mania and I would love it if both games do well.
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>>186458703
>no blood
>Wha?
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>>186458305
textures haven't been made, so it's still going to look like a grey blob, but here you go
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>>186458808
I'm kind of hurt because everything they've showed for Forces since the initial reveal has been disappointing. I wish it would have been different and I wish it wasn't like this, but at this point I feel that even if they showed something new and it was good, it'd be foolish to get attached to the game again.
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>>186458810
I'm happy now.
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>>186459143
I LOVE IT, but can the eyelids be toggled on and off?
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DSP really embodies the people who hate the Sonic Adventure games. just like all the people who spout that shit, he's utterly terrible at the game and tries to act like it's the game's fault.
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>>186459393
*Arin Hanson
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>>186459393
He does that with literally every game.
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>>186459143
Thanks. Doesn't the hair at her sides need to be a bit longer? It generally reaches her muzzle >>186455913
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>>186459393
This, desu. All the people you see who hate Adventure usually suck major ass at it. It's even sadder when they're grown men when kid me had less of a hard time with it.

And Adventure 2 is a giant casual filter.
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>>186459393
How come that people are dumb and wrong for not liking Sonic games because of the controls but this doesn't apply to Heroes
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>>186459534
I'm not making a point about Phil. I already know how he is. I'm just noticing a familiar pattern of complaints.
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>>186459369
yes, that's what the shape keys will be for; to switch between the eyelashes being visible (the ones that aren't part of the eyelids) and the eyelids being visible. you'll also be able to switch between a muzzle that doesn't have a mouth and a muzzle that has a mouth, tongue, teeth, and esophagus

>>186459537
the hair is matched to the reference sheet on the booru. comparing the reference sheet to the image you linked, they're a mirrored image of each other. the hair on her left (in your image) is the same hair that's on her right (in the reference sheet and 3d model)
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>>186459674
Because Heroes has issues outside of controls. DESU if you only had to beat the game once, the levels were a lot shorter, the rail controls weren't worse than SA2, and the bosses weren't some of the most boring and bad in 3D Sonic it'd actually be okay
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>>186459859
>Heroes bosses
Who the fuck at SEGA thought it was a good idea to give HP bars for individual pieces of each Egg-whatever?
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>>186459674
Sonic Heroes controls fine, for the most part. Speed characters starting speed is a fair bit higher than it should be, which can be pretty disorienting but you get used to it. Boost Dash is useful in skillshot situations but it's otherwise honestly extremely unwieldy.
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>>186459984
I get why they did it: to give the power characters something other than breaking certain walls. What I find inexcusable is that there's 2 mook rushes. The game really only has 3 bosses in the main story, it just loops them\
>>186460025
The rocket accel is about as bad as the fucking 06 spindash.
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Why is he named Shadow?
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>>186460102
Counterargument: The 06 Spin Dash is actually better because it's easier to start up and aim.
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>>186460102
Don't forget that Egg Albatross is just a fat life bar with an Egg Hawk inside it.

>>186460204
Because Terios sounded stupid.
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>>186459674
Probably because the classic Sonic games aren't really broken and the result of needing to port the games to various different consoles resulting in the closest to sound controls possible. Plus Classic Sonic physics work with the level design, not so much in Heroes

>>186459859
So basically if you fixed the problems with the game. Sorry to say, but all the 3D Sonic games are suffering from and that's been a consistent issue which could've been solved with less experimentation and more refinement of a formula

>>186459984
Justification for the Power characters existing. Basically changing the core mechanics to suit a gimmick
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>>186459859
>the levels were a lot shorter
I'll never understand how people can be satisfied after 2-3 minutes of game. Team Dark is my favorite team to play as because the 5-8 minute length is perfect if you ask me. I loathe playing Team Rose's baby mode because of that too.

>>186460025
Boost Dash? Do you mean the Rocket Accel?
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>>186460102
>>186460248
>Power characters
Well that's dandy yeah until you hit Egg-Albatross and it's Speed Mode until you get 3 levels and spam homing attack on each piece and if you're playing the PS2 version praying nothing dumb happens when the Boss sways to slightly off to the side while mashing X to stay on the thing for each rotor.
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>>186460307
Longer levels are fine if they're not filled with the same boring repetitive filler over and over. I found myself finishing most acts in Mania somewhere between 5-8 minutes on my first run and they didn't seem repetitive, then I speed through them on replays.
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>>186459842
>the hair is matched to the reference sheet on the booru.
I see, thanks. It didn't look like it reached her muzzle on the render.

Looking forward to your future progress, anon!
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Remember when we were just kidding around and we didn't really think this was gunna happen?
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>>186460307
The game is about going fast, not staying around and smelling the roses. Level design should encourage exploration, not force it. More levels with multiple ways to go about it is the key instead of just meandering about and then the level feels like ending

>>186460429
Not saying it was a good reason. Power is more like the neutral character until you can upgrade the better characters
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>>186460209
True, but you can't jump out of it and it's generally useless
>>186460248
>So basically if you fixed the problems with the game.
Yup. But you know what? I replayed SA2 recently and it's held up well. Granted, certain stages are fuckawful and the emerald hunt are as tedious as ever (And the ranking system is so fucking stupid) but honestly, the Sonic stages are still top notch, with Final Rush being a good contender for one of the best 3D Sonic stages
>>186460307
>I'll never understand how people can be satisfied after 2-3 minutes of game
Thing is, the stages are only that long at the start. By the likes of Mystic Mansion and Hang Castle, the stages go on for 10+ minutes if you're not a pro speedrunner, not helped by the constant "trapped in a room and have to beat all the enemies to escape" scenarios. I think 3-5 minutes is fairly reasonable for a Sonic stage
>>186460495
Also this. In Heroes the longer levels are worse because they just start repeating setpieces, especially in Team Dark's campaign. I dislike them for the same reason I dislike robot Carnival/Robot Storm: it's not even hard, it's just tedious.
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>Play Heroes
>Rival battle
>Do [Whatever]-tornado immediately
>Cue cutscene to next level
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>>186460637
That's the core reason SA2 is still held in high regard. It's the closest they ever got to refining a formula completely

Generations is close. Hopefully Forces does better, but with them fucking up the Classic Sonic gameplay and Wisps I'm not too keen on it
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>>186460748
Have fun trying that in the PC port.
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>>186458507
>>186458564
you guys still updating/have the Bump sprite sheet?
the Sonic Battle Hack Suite can hack pretty much edit anyone in the game now
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>>186460795
>SA2
>refining anything
Fucking how? It made 2 of the 3 things it carried over from SA1 worse.
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>>186460923
I've always wanted to go back to it. What would you want me to add?
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>>186460795
I gotta agree with this. I think if Forces makes the boost less spammable and rewards more conservative use of it, it could be the best incarnation of it yet. But like you said, the Classic gameplay oesn't look too hot. I think wisps, if used very, very rarely, can be fine though

>That's the core reason SA2 is still held in high regard. It's the closest they ever got to refining a formula completely

Wanna know someting fucked up? Sonic's stages in 06 tend to have some genuinely fun designs to them and encourage exploration and generally do things that a good Sonic stage should do. The problem comes with the shit like the amigo gameplay (TAils and Knuckles control so shittily) and the Mach Speed sections. But outside of those, levels like Crisis City are incredibly fun. Those levels with SA2's controls and a camera that isn't ass (And Shadow's rail controls) would be amazing
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>>186460975
The Sonic formula, which is what the game is advertised on. I don't know what the fuck they did to the mechs and radar

desu if Heroes didn't force the shitty team gimmick and was just playing as 3 Adventure characters per team it would've been received much better
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>>186460823
PC port isn't much different, just change tornado for thunder shoot
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>>186460204
Ask his fathers.
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>>186457752
Aw shit, 20/10 now. Think you'd do one for Sage too?
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>>186460204
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>>186461361
I'll consider it, but as it so happens I have unfinished work to do.
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>>186461092
Why can't they just make a long-ass game with the Sonic formula and the Sonic formula alone? That's why people liked Colors. No werehog, no motion control shit, no dumbed down classic sonic shit. It seems like with each game they can't just make a long and memorable experience, they have to pad it by adding some stupid gimmick like OCs or Werehogs or making you play four times or get all endings.
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>>186458485
Yeah sure
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>>186461521
cause sonic levels are expensive probably
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>>186461091
>Forces makes the boost less spammable
Funny enough, Forces in some ways seems to be going for that. Looking at the City Heights footage, it looks like outside of the initial Boost capsule, the only way you can fill the Boost meter is through destroying enemies.
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>>186461521
I don't like Colors, but that's because getting the S Ranks involve Wisps and playing without them makes the stages remarkably boring

Also modern gamers have high expectations for games nowadays. If they aren't long enough, they aren't worth the budget. That's why you go from having nice, short, easy to do one-sitting 3D games to long, drawn out, padded adventures you gotta keep coming back to
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>>186461638
So this time they're going for a more challenging boost game?
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>>186461769
Well, CH still has 2D platforming & some automation. But that's likely the first stage of the game & if they open up the level design of later stages more & have less automation, it'll be much better off
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remember, even tails had an OC
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alright guys I'm about to sin
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>>186460307
Yeah I meant Rocket Accel, sorry.
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>>186457154
Th-this was a joke by the way.
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What animal are you making for Forces, /sthg/?
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>>186461013
add some more attacks
especially kicks, outsource it from that giant Sonic/Amy sheet and Rouge too
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>>186462554
I'm probably just going to go for the default buddy wolf.
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>>186462347
do you want Heavy Magician to vore you
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>>186462438
Oh, so the hat's for you then.

>>186462554
If I somehow end up with it I'll be mashing confirm as soon as I can.
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>>186462554
Cat or Bird.
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>>186462632
Not him, but I do
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Heavy Magician is my girlfriend.
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>>186460637
I really hope Final Rush shows up in Forces in some form. It deserves a remaster on the level of Generations' stages.
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>>186462554
bird so I can make my penguin oc
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So have you guys used the drop dash much in your first playthrough of mania? I forgot about it admittedly.
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>>186462554
I wanna know everything I can make in Forces, but right now, I really love Buddy's default design & I may see how many official Sonic characters I can make. Then maybe just try & mix whatever I can think of.
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Is it correct to put Buddy in a fanfic?
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>>186462638
Thanks, I'll treasure it forever.
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>>186462554
Hedgehog to keep it simple.
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so why exactly can't they make a Taxman remake of Sonic 3? Classic Collection on DS had Sonic 3 on it.
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>>186462554
Hedgehog likely because I probably can't make porcupines and my original self-insert was a hedgehog before I changed the species

Not that it matters since I dumped the self-insert a long time ago for a clown
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>>186462750
Boost gameplay would ruin it though.
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>>186462923
>I wanna know everything I can make in Forces
Hedgehog: Can grab rings back after getting hit.
Wolf: Automatically attracts nearby rings.
Rabbit: Longer Mercy Invincibility after getting hit.
Cat: Always keeps one ring after taking damage.
Dog: Starts with five rings after dying.
Bear: Stronger Homing Attack that blows enemies away.
Bird: Possesses a Double Jump.
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>>186462953
well since he can be one of seven different animals with who knows what kind of clothing, then i'd say it would be if only for the lack of clarity

in terms of quality though i think he'd be just another character
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>>186463003
How about a 3D side-scroller remake of Sonic 3 & Knuckles?
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>>186463152
>fatty
gross
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>>186462554
The common Buddy, or a bird, because double jumps.
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>>186463152
I never liked the idea of belly buttons on Sonic characters.
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>>186463082
i wish they were less creatively-bankrupt with these

it feels like they had something resembling an coherent idea with a few of these (Bear and Bird), but then after that they decided to add moronic ring gimmicks that more or less make the game unlosable to the rest.

>>186463174
>3D
>side-scroller
i want this meme to fucking die, it only exists so developers can be lazy.
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>>186463186
All bumbs are beautiful.
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>>186463186
>flattie
gross
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>>186463285
>>186463082
Where did this info on Sonic forces come from?
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>>186463152
>that ear so close to the eye
This is kind of a lazy drawing.
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>>186458485
Sure.

>>186457752
>>186455913
Any of them, but the middle one is my favorite if that's what you're asking. Though Boom Bump is a close second; that's a pretty good design.
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>>186463285
>>186463174
what exactly is a "3D side-scroller"

like Crash Bandicoot?
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>>186463389
That was part of the interviews, info to japanese gaming mags and so forth around the same time as the custom hero reveal.
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>>186463464
it means a 2d sidescroller they were too lazy to do 2d art for
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>>186463504
I'm surprised they have hedgehog as an option, but it might be fun to make something close to Boom sonic even it'd be a mute
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>>186462347
>>186462632

no
I'm drawing some sagebump
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>>186460923
There a tutorial on how to use this?
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>>186463464
>what exactly is a "3D side-scroller"
A good chunk of a boost game.

>>186463630
>Sage succumbing to that harlot
Come on man
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>>186463713
Sorry anon. That slutty deer was corrupt Sage one day
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>>186462554
Echidna in order to make Knuckles playable
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>>186463630
LEWD
LEWD!!
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>>186463082
I'll still be annoyed foxes aren't available
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>>186463630
>girls kissing girls
Wait they can do that???
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>>186463664
Its pretty simple
Just replace the palette, export the sprite sheet, and replace the frames of the sprites youre replacing with.

Unless you need help, there's a discord for the very tiny Sonic Battle hacking scene
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>>186463285
>Bear and Bird
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>>186464763
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>>186463082
>no bats or foxes
Dropped
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>>186464763
Yes. Bears and Birds have actual gameplay differences.
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Man, sometimes I forget that /sthg/ is one of the better places to talk Sonic. No matter how bad these threads may get, I can't remember the last time non-news about Forces caused a shitstorm the level places like SSMB just had.
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>>186464897
It's especially weird considering a major plot spoiler was leaked and nobody gives a shit
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WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
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>>186464973
Wait what?
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>>186464973
>major plot spoiler in Forces was leaked
Say what?
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>>186464973
They've been joking about Tails dying for over a year now.
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>>186465052
The spinning top sequences are so fucking easy, the only people who seem to have anything to complain about are the ones who overcomplicate it for themselves.
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So in Sonic Mania, the only character that can fight Egg Reverie is Sonic, right? I thought I saw someone do it as knuckles.
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>>186464897
Shut the hell up, you'll attract the normies.
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>>186464973
Well everyone knew Tails is gonna die in Forces, but I'm more referring to how SSMB had a 6 page argument about Forces having a E10+ rating.

I mean, /sthg/ has had some pretty fucking awful moments, but it's usually just people taking obvious bait.

>>186465187
Hey, I don't plan on mentioning this place anywhere else. /sthg/ has enough shitters.
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>>186465187
>normies
You're already here you fucking normalfag.
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>>186465185
Stage Select. It's just they had the foresight to give Knuckles an ending where he's reading fanfiction about himself to the animal buddies

Only Sonic can access Egg Reverie in the main campaign. And only he has a canon ending that isn't halfassed
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>>186465185
The Level Select can let you take Tails and Knuckles to it too. But in legitimate playthroughs they can't fight him even with all the emeralds.
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>>186464897
Well post pics of the sperging out.
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>>186465378
No pics needed. This one post in the last page sums up that thread

>We wouldn't have that reputation in the gaming community if our fanbase could learn to late the other parts of itself have the games it wanted without utterly trashing them and outright saying they don't deserve to exist or are ruining the franchise. Unfortunately, that's not happening because the majority of the loudest people in this fanbase can't follow the simple courteous concept of "live and let live".

>You know what? The entirety of this thread and about 75% of discussion on this forum has done nothing but remind me exactly why I hate talking to other Sonic fans and why I often find myself absolutely despising other Sonic fans. Especially on this site.

>You people jump to conclusions and ultimatums faster than absolutely any other gaming fanbase out there over the smallest reasons while doing everything in your power to justify it with the most minuscule and insignificant nitpicks you can imagine and absolutely refuse any other possible perspective aside from answering it with sarcasm and shutdowns if they aren't just ignored completely. It's fine to have your own idea of what might happen but for pete's sake, it's a damn game rating. Calm the fuck down.

>I really do hope we get some more details shown and revealed soon to give a much more clear idea on what things are going to be like, since we know next to nothing.

>Cause good lord, a lot of you folks really need to be shown that just because being cynical is as easy as breathing is for you, doesn't mean that you're even half as smart as you think you are.

>Goddamn. Fuck Sonic fans. Can't be helped and don't want to be.

>This series really is best enjoyed in very small groups or completely alone and that honestly really disappoints me.
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>>186465512
But now we cant save a picture and then spam it.
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>>186465512
>You people jump to conclusions and ultimatums faster than absolutely any other gaming fanbase out there over the smallest reasons while doing everything in your power to justify it with the most minuscule and insignificant nitpicks you can imagine and absolutely refuse any other possible perspective aside from answering it with sarcasm and shutdowns if they aren't just ignored completely.
He's got a point.
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>>186465291
>>186465316
Right. So I didn't fuck up, good.

Well, I've beat the game as all three characters. That was worth the 20 bucks, but I think I should probably take a break from it.
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>>186465670
He does, but I don't get how a thread about Forces rating could lead to such a post.
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>>186465512
>Y'guys ever notice that ever since we got rid of megathreads, every subsequent Forces thread becomes the new de-facto megathread for Forces (and subsequently pisses itself and dies)? We don't just discuss one thing anymore. I really hate to use the word "circlejerk", but it feels like we're constantly brought back to the same arguments between the same people over and over, and what doesn't have people at each other's throats has them blowing it out of proportion and doomsaying like I've never seen before. I'm not even trying to act innocent (although, comparatively...), but there's obviously something that's happened to make this place a chore instead of an escape like it used to be.
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>>186464973
What are you talking about? You mean Webber saying that Tails dies?
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Has Sonic ever really had an "ego" in the games? While I thought he was confident, I never thought Sonic had an ego or anything in the Sonic games, up until maybe Colors.

Reason this comes up is because I can't help but notice "ego" is his defining trait in Archie Sonic, and his negative flaw tends to be just that, and Flynn's writers notes show that he does kind of write Sonic around his hubris. Of course this is a comic interpretation of him so it makes sense that he's given such a flaw, but it just got me thinking, does he really have any sort of arrogance about him within the games themselves?
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>>186466427
>Sage falling for the slut
REEEEEEE
Cute tho
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>>186466427
Nice
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>>186466509
I don't think he's ever been arrogant in the sense of "I'm the coolest", but he is cocky, rushes into things without thinking assuming he can get through everything, and has a tendency to banter with his friends, so it's very easy to see how a writer can mistake that for simple arrogance.
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>>186465512
Sounds like it's just this one autist that still has 06 pstd.

>What the hell kind of "serious" Sonic are you talking about? He hasn't been serious since 06. 11 YEARS
>Am I supposed to suddenly not hate something terrible just because it's old? I'll gladly take a dozen more Lost Worlds before another '06.
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>>186466427
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Hey /sthg/ I'm on a dev team for a Sonic RPG fangame and there's talk of putting Bump and Sage in the game as NPC's and possibly even making them playable in the future

If it's not a big deal can you make a moveset for both characters that contains 4 special moves a super move and song related to the character?
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>>186466819
pls no bully
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>>186466840
Just keep them as background out-of-the-way NPCs as neat little references instead of making them anything important. Definitely do not make them playable. They're supposed to be mascots, not TMFZ-tier self-insert Mary Sue OCs.
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>>186466427
Sage can't handle her liquor
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>>186466840
>Sonic RPG fangame
Really? Care to show us a little bit of it?
As for their role, them as NPCs would probably be better.
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>>186466840
>there's talk of putting Bump and Sage in the game
Why?

>>186466979
Being playable doesn't automatically make them that, having shit revolve around them and them being incapable of doing wrong does.
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>>186461402
Why can't Shadow and Maria just live a happy life?
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>>186466902
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>>186467140
Meant to add: Since this general is only known to about 100 or so people (& some people in the Sonic franchise), so if your game were to blow up, people wouldn't ask why a random deer & sloth are playable.
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>>186462554
Red Wolf Buddy
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>>186462554
Cat or a rabbit
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>>186460923
Downloaded this, and have never done any hacking before, is their any programs that I'm gonna need to open these files or something?
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Evil doctor with a mad genius and rad minions;
Who'll help you save the planet?;
I see you acting like you've never seen;
I'm the greatest fighter that's ever been on your screen;
I'm iconic, with my bionics & animatronics;
I'll crush that hedgehog they call Sonic;
Fabled and iconic, my mustache of fire;
Welcome to this tiny world of nightmares and wire
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>>186466840
>If it's not a big deal can you make a moveset for both characters that contains 4 special moves a super move and song related to the character?

Are we talking moves that will be animated or can they be whatever?
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>>186445143
Indeed. Even after he got fired from Machinima he's still around. Phil will be doing YouTube till the day he dies, divesting his naive viewers/fans out of their money. His "8-year legacy" of YouTube has put him in quite a bind. He has consistently done YouTube full-time, sitting on his couch, playing video games all day long and blames the game, etc., uploads raw footage of his playthroughs to YouTube with no editing at all. All of this in addition to having no actual job has left him with an 8-year gap of nothing on his resume. Him getting an ordinary job will be quite difficult. There are means to go around this, but Phil's not going to do that, nor is he willing to move out of the house he's living alone in and move back to his condo in Connecticut. Phil's faults is his inability to rationalize and think consequently, also his huge ego and pride get the better of him most of the time as well. Also, he's a pretty toxic person to be around with. His former friends John Rambo and Howard talked to a great extent their experience of being friends with Phil and the stunts he pulled on them, which led them to talk about this, because Phil trampled over them without them having a say about it.
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zzz......
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>>186468606
Jesus he has only gotten worse? Fucker better sraighten out before he finds himself flipping patties for minimum wage
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>>186469292
>Puts hand on hot stove
>"WOOOAAAAH. How was I supposed to know not to do that?!"
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>>186466979
Don't worry There's a good chance they won't be playable it's simply to add them to a list of character that have potential for after the full game launches, they won't be canon to the main story

>>186467140
>>186467374
Any and all updates on the game can be viewed on the twitter as for the game itself it is constantly being worked on in private as it only began production recently there is not any solid gameplay I can provide at this moment

>>186467170
I showed the lead director the designs and he liked them enough to include them in the game especially since they're animals that don't usually appear in Sonic

>>186467920
Yes these moves will be animated
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>>186469292
This year has been quite eventful for Phil. Him getting fired from Machinima His "full-time" girlfriend turned fiancé, Leanna, left him. It's unknown if she had already left him before Phil made the announcement, of which Leanna had a panic attack and ended up in a hospital, of which of course Phil talked about, revealing a lot of information which he shouldn't have done at all.
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>>186469181
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>>186467792
could someone respond if you know?
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This is mah boy
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>>186471159
This is the man that will kill your boy.
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JUMP FAGS BTFO
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>>186471453
HOW CAN BING BING WAHOO EVER RECOVER
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>waiting for Mania
I just want this shit to be out already, my excitement's pretty much gone at this point.
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>>186472787
That's what you get for not buying a console.
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>>186473057
I'm totally fine with having no console since I don't have a lot of reasons to get one still.
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holy jesus fuck my own reactions are the death of me
Every time I think i've got it in Blue Spheres, I overreact to something, turn too hard, or reflexively jump and always hit a Red Sphere or a bumper that sends me into one. Combine that with disorientation and difficulty memorizing the maps and I only have a row and a half of stages done so far.
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>>186473273
Games that you can't get on PC.
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>>186474043
Again, not enough reasons but I'm not getting into this this late at night.
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>>186438348
I'd unironically pay $200 for a playable Metal Sonic. It's almost criminal how little games he's able to be played in considering he'd just be a Sonic reskin in most of them.
>fond memories of game-sharking SA2 Battle to replace Sonic and Shadow with Metal Sonic.
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that's it i've had enough of this guy
Captcha: STOP Karting.
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time to go super sonic
because the problem is chronic
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They grow up so fast /sthg/..
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Sonic is my boyfriend.
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>>186462554
Freddy Fazbear.
Sonic will eat my pizza.
Shadow will eat my pizza.
Eggman will eat my pizza.
They'll all fucking eat the pizza.
Welcome to Fazbear's motherfucker.
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>>186463012
>I dumped the self-insert a long time ago for a clown.
Explain.
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>>186475857
Well it's a little different than what I said. Basically my original self-insert became the MC of my original story, now far distanced from Sonic

While my new artist avatar is more a stylized version of myself that has clown traits
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>>186475749
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>>186475749
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>>186457963
>>186459143
This is the coolest thing
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>>186475947
>stylized version of myself that has clown traits
The more you elaborate, the more spooked I become.
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>>186476426
Posting a link because don't want to waste Sanic image space on my avatar http://static.tumblr.com/9d79d7f6ef54d519c447490040d3f725/mkprx5j/wntniyq9p/tumblr_static_3dq0l8qopmw40044wk8w8o80k.png

Nothing extreme, just a small little dope
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>>186467079
>Sage can't handle her liquor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-kzzK6CGw
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>>186474804
tell me does life exist beyond it
When I need to sate, I just accelerate
into obliviion
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>>186474612
>>186474712
>>186474804
I remember many years ago seeing some videos with either Sonic or Shadow in Vice City and really wanting to play it. Never found a link though.
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>>186476642
Well, gave me a little spook.
But I don't really feel the day is complete without one little spook, so you've helped me meet my quota today.
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will Gemerl be mentioned/referenced/appear in Sonic Forces
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>>186466427
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>>186477380
Fucking bumpers.
Not even once.
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>>186477380
Unlikely.
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>>186477380
My headcanon is he still lives with cream and vanilla, spending his days picking flowers with cream, having tea parties and making flower crowns with her
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>>186479012
>Freckles
Cute!
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>The adventure thread up on /v/ right now
I'm surprised you guys don't ever get that bad.
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>>186462554
Gonna try to turn a Wolf into fox.
Name him Zoxx.
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>>186480524
too busy with waifu's
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thread is dead, post gay!
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>>186481560
Silver's not gay
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>>186481560
Stop that
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>>186479012
Hesse drew a great Bump.
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>>186482113
Why do most youtube artists present him that way, I never understood it.
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Good morning /sthg/
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>>186482460
I don't agre with the mindset but I think one of the factors is how flamboyant silver's chest hair looks
Or maybe I'm just retarded, I dunno
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>>186483336
Maybe the voice. I dunno either.
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>>186483359
Regardless, Silver's probably my favourite character and it's a damn shame he's forever tainted by being associated with 06
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>>186483297
Morning, anon.
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>>186483418
All it really takes is a fun and good game with him playable, but that probably won't be attempted again.
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>>186483418
>>186483558
All he needs to do is to shine in the Sonic Forces Story. Which I hate for not putting him to good use as of now. He's been in 0 cutscenes recently.

Isn't he suppose to be the plot inducing hog? I get why they treated him like garbage in Generations since it's an anniversary game but since he's actually IN a actual canon game he better have a much stronger role. A role that could possibly bring him back to glory.

Iizuka better not throw him in the side character dumpster pile again.
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>>186484339
B-blaze could also get a good role to. If she's in the game.

Since the theme is about alternate dimension interference and what-not.

Wishful thinking I know..
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>>186483418
At least he didn't die with 06.
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new thread when
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>>186484620
when we reach 750
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>>186484620
When you leave this thread and never return.

Fool.
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I know I'm late but

OH SHIT MEAN BEAN MACHINE IS CANON WHERE DOES IT FIT IN THE TIMELINE BROS
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>>186485307
It isn't and doesn't
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>>186484481
It's pretty amazing that he didn't.
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>>186485372

But it was in Mania!
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>>186485307
the timeline splits at the CPZ2 boss in Sonic Mania itself
events go on as normal should the heroes win, but if they die and Dr Robotnik succeeds, he will build his entire empire using the power of his Mean Bean Machine
eventually the player in Dr Robotonik's Mean Bean Machine turns up and with the help of Has Bean frees the world from Robotnik's wrath
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>>186485438
Thank goodness he didn't
Silver a cutie
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>>186485519

Ah yes I see.

Scratch in this game is a fucking treasure I swear
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>>186485620
it explains why his Sonic Mania AI is garbage, he only trained and improved his skill after seeing how powerful his mean bean pokey thing killer machine is
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>>186485674

He loses in Mania because he hasn't started yelling YEEHAAW everytime he does a combo. Only in the alternate timeline when he wins and actually yells YEEHAAW after finally defeating Sonic does he discover the true power of it and go on to conquer the world.

It all makes sense now.
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In Sonic 1 if you finish an act, go offscreen and jump at probably a precise time, you can move during the results screen.

Did I get that right? Because I did that somehow to get to the special stage
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What the fuck Does Chaos Control actually do
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>>186486123
Give you autism
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CHAOS....
SWISS ROLL
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>>186486123

Controls the Chaos.
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>>186486123
Whatever you want really
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>>186486197

Is Hawaiian Shadow still our guy?
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>>186486315
I'm still pissed that Boom rumor was a fake. Lazy apathetic beach bum shadow is the best
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So what exactly was Sonic 4, anyway? Not literally, I mean... what was the game even trying to accomplish? It looks less faithful to the original mechanics than the Advance games were, how was it supposed to be a continuation of the genesis games?
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>>186485519
I like how Has Bean is literally just Carbuncle, they didn't even bother reskinning him or anything
Gugugu!
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>>186486715
It was a mobile game that had it's name changed and was ported to consoles to increase sales.
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>>186486715
Because it literally was?

7/8 of the zones were ripped straight from Sonic 1 & 2, and the story was following Sonic CD and 3. Eggman revives Metal Sonic on Little Planet to help him in stopping Sonic, while Eggman is building the Death Egg Mark II.

The reason the mechanics are fuck-y is because Dimps was initially told to make it some mobile game, and they were told late in development to port it to consoles and call it Sonic 4. So they kind of got the raw end of the stick, but whether you like it or not, it very much is what it says it is; The official sequel to the Classic games.
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>>186486715
>>186486994

I hear Sonic 4 Episode 2 was a lot less offensive and actually a decent enough game, is that right?

Never bothered playing it myself.
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Sega has not brought Puyo Puyo Tetris to Steam. I was wondering if after Sonic Mania releases if the Mean Bean game on there is acceptable for the Puyo Puyo stuff or is it too low level?
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>>186487068
Yeah Episode II actually has some redeeming qualities.

It still pales in comparison to the Genesis or Advance games, but;

>Physics are way better
Not perfect, but they're perfectly playable and enjoyable, much like other non-Genesis 2D games.

>The single original Zone of the game is absolutely amazing
You transition from sloping down mountains and exploring Ice Caves, to moving through an amusement park and running down Rollar Coaster tracks. The boss fight is very similar to the Generations Metal Sonic fight, except instead of Stardust Speedway, you're running on the Rollar Coaster tracks as Metal Sonic is destroying them. This might upset some people, but I really do think Dimps handled Metal Sonic 10x better than Mania did. Mania is better in every other way of course, but that entire zone and boss fight against Metal Sonic made me realize the Dimps that could make brilliant Sonic games were still trapped under that mess.

>Metal Sonic's music
I knew it was a crapshoot, but I was so hoping that this would make its way into Mania, but alas it was just a Stardust Speedway remix for all three of his phases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOS6-5sV89Y

>Tag-Team Mechanics
Now this absolutely pales in comparison to Sonic Advance 3, but they brought the Sonic+Tails Tag-Team moves into the game. In a way, I loved this, it absolutely felt like a. appropriate step up as a gameplay feature that is expected from something called Sonic 4. But the problem is it kind of falls flat when there isn't a nice roster of characters to mix-n-match abilities with. You could also use the feature to cheat your way to victory a few times.
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>>186487449
Mean Bean has the original ruleset (Sonic Mania has double rotation though), which means no offset, which means that your chain can't counter garbage puyos send to your field
essentially the game turns into a "who can make a 5-chan first" and stall waiting for their opponent to die
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>>186485540
I concur.
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>>186487810
The boss fights are also way less sluggish (the end of Episode I made me want to pull my hair out)

It's a shame that Episode I even exists. It's clear that they had to damage control hard. Episode II had to be built from the ground up, and it took them over a YEAR, so they were clearly holding back in some desperate hope to salvage when they knew was a big deal. I know they had plans for an Episode 3 with more original zones, and more characters, but alas. Episode II sold like shit, and Dimps' reputation was ruined.

If they were given the chance to make a true Sonic 4, coming off the Advance/Rush games, with more original Zones, characters, ect, well I suspect that we could have had something amazing. Think Mania, but with modern Sonic aesthetics, and characters like Blaze, Amy and Cream would be playable. Possibly re-introducing the team-up mechanics.

Shit, they even had a second chance to do this with GenerationsDS, but they got fucked with that too, making a shitty expected console Tie-In.

Dimps had two opportunities to pool their talent and successful past and make a fantastic Sonic game, but they got fucked both times. It's really sad to be honest, but I guess the silver lining is that Sega moved forward with Christian Whitehead to let him make an original 2D Sonic game instead. And Mania did turn out mostly fantastic.
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>>186466840
We can probably come up with the moveset but you may have to nag us a bit to get the steam going and so that different anons get to know the project and get hooked up on it and contribute.

Also, good luck with the game in general.

>>186469478
>Yes these moves will be animated
>more Bump animations
WANT
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>>186487449
It sucks that Ubisoft has the Tetris license on PC and we'll never get Puyo Puyo Tetris on PC.
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Amy's cute.
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>the Hill Top see-saws are in Mirage Saloon Act 1 (KTE)
at this point, are there any gimmicks they haven't reused?
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>>186475465
Legit happy for the kid, I'm glad he's calmed down and seems to be enjoying life.
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>>186490418
Elastic Ring from Knuckles' Chaotix
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>>186490193
>tig ol' biddies
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>>186490418
Uhhh, Mushroom Hill Zone had those vines that would grab you. I don't think there is anything like that in Mania
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>>186491450
Puberty's a bitch.
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Who /KnuxRouge/ here?
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>>186491692
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Brand new wallpaper from Sonic Channel.
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>>186491692
A cute.
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Sonic Channel Sound Column update by Jun Senoue (interview with Tee Lopes)
http://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/soundcolumn/senoue/20170818_001397/
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>>186493512
Is Knuckles considered handsome? That's cute
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>>186492914
>blob feet
IIIIIZUKAAAAAAA! You'll pay for this.
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>>186494090
Iizuka-san is always right, all-powerful and all-knowing, to speak against him is to beg for death.
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>>186492914
She will be Forces

I just know it
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>>186494360
Yeah as a joke after credits ending when you beat the game with all 7 Chaos Emeralds.
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>>186491646
Puberty is a gift.
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>>186494250
Our Iizuka who art in Sonic Team,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy games come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in mobius.
Give us this day our daily fast,
and forgive us our bad opinions,
as we forgive those who think Sonic was never good,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from bad games.

For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the wisps,
for ever and ever
Amen.
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>>186493856
This panel makes them look inbred
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>>186495003
meant to reply to >>186493512
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Hey /sthg/, it's my birthday today. Can I get some Emerl ad Gemerl stuff?
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>>186495739
Happy birthday anon!
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>>186496001
Thanks, anon.
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So Iizuka & Nakamura interview is out

https://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Panda20XX/shun-nakamura-and-takashi-iizuka-on-sonic-mania-forces-and-adventure-3--455271.phtml

To sum it up, Classic was pretty much put in Forces after Generations was well received. Mania was made because SEGA wanted a new 2D styled game & Whitehead wanted to do one. Forces (according to the interviewer) controls pretty well & Sonic Team have been working on fixing the controls & making the player "feel as in control as possible."
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>>186495739
No.
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>>186496001
Lucky Gemerl, it fucks Vanilla when Cream is outside
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>>186497190
No bully! I like Shadow too though.
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>>186495739
Happy birthday anon. Put >>186457154 on.
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>>186494090
>Uekawa trolls you
>Blame Iizuka

Dumb foot fetishist.
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How'd mania turn out? Haven't played it yet.
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>>186494741
Her knockers are all the way down to where her hips should be.
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>>186492914
Purge this heresy
Why is she missing a shoe anyway?
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Would Mania be as well received if Sonic games had been good for the past decade?
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>>186498172
Sonic games have been mostly good for the last decade & have been mostly well received too. It hasn't stopped the "Mania is the first good Sonic game" meme, tho
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>>186497038
Sounds great!
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>>186498670
Two out of six isn't "mostly," anon.
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Now I can start the Emerald and Medal grind, oh boy. The final boss was fairly good and incoporated the Heavies like I expected, but I got lost for quite a while in the final zone. Metallic Madness was a nice surprise, but Oil Ocean wasn't so much. I thought it was interesting that all the new zones were man-made
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>>186499010
Not counting Riders, the Sonic games of the last decade have been
>Secret Rings
>Unleashed
>Black Knight
>Colors
>Generations
>Lost World
Of those, I'd say 3 of them were good & only one was mediocre.
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>>186499089
I thought the game was generally a bit too manmade, but that pretty much follows the trend of the Boost Trilogy.
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>>186499634
I was counting Boom and not Secret Rings, given the latter is nearly 11 and not with this decade.

Even then, only Colors and Generations were well received.
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>>186498172
Mania is the first GREAT Sonic game in a while. Since Advance, I'd argue.

Generations would be up there if all the bosses didn't suck.
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>>186499686
I would've appreciated more natural environments, but it's overall fairly good fun. The lack of explanation about Super Peel-Out and Insta-Shield is slightly confusing though.
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>>186499836
And the filler.
And the brevity.
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>>186465512
Sounds like the same quality of shitposting that we and /v/ have.
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>>186499931
Didn't feel like those were issues. I had a lot of fun finding all of the red rings.
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>>186499634
You forgot the Rush Trilogy which were all stellar unless you're one of those shitters who just tries to boost to the end and then complains about "bad level design" when you die or struggle to get B ranks.

Also Sonic 4 which was not so good, unless you really give Episode 2 a chance in which it was still very mediocre.
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>>186499836
Generations IS up there you fool, the bosses were fine, except Time Eater.

Also fuck you, the Rush games. And I hope you are not implying Adv1 is better than 3, because you would be wrong.

>inb4 "b-bottemless pits"
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>>186500171
Well, Rush Adventure & Colors DS were the only ones of that trilogy to be in this decade.
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>>186500171
Rush 1 was okay, but really lacked replay value.
Rush 2 is a chore to finish.
Colors was also okay, but the console version was better.
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WHY

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SONIC MANIA AND HOW THE SONIC 1 COPY WAS NOT A GOOD CONSOLATION PRIZE

BUT THIS

IT'S JUST FURRIES

WHY
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>>186500415
Anon, there's some game discussion right above your post. Try looking a bit harder. I'll agree with you about the consolation though, it's really not enough.
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>>186498670
>>186499010
Damn, 3D/2.5D Sonic games are like the contemporary art of gaming
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>>186500415
Who is your favorite sonic girl anon?

I want to fuck Cream and Sticks
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>Tails doesn't jump fast enough in the special stage
>gets hit
>you are now behind him and he's collecting the Rings
>gets hit
>you lose
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
WRYYY
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>>186500415
This is nowhere near as bad as /5n@f/
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>>186500415
>>186500515
Literal nothing would have been less insulting than a game everyone already has on some other place it got ported. I think for PC users, the CD remake would have been a bit better than a ROM. It was how Whitehead got his start on Sonic with Sega, and hasn't been ported nearly as many times as 'the first ever Sonic game'.
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>>186500651
well I would fucking hope it'd be
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>>186500360
>Rush 2 is a chore to finish.
Found the shitter

Its only a chore if you suck. The worse you do, the more they make you replay levels to get materials. It's the games way of helping you git gud to enjoy it more. There's plenty of interesting, shorter bonus levels to find if you explore so replaying levels isn't even bad when it comes down to it. Then when you beat the game, there are 99 bonus missions that get exceedingly difficult, but really encourage you to Master the game.

The levels themselves are fun and vibrant and really chilled, reflecting the holiday-esque adventure theme of the game, making the game perfect for laidback sessions, as well as the more intense perfectionist ones.

I find that anybody who calls Rush 2 a "chore" is just a shitter who couldn't be bothered to git gud
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>>186500687
I'm not redeeming my code until the game releases on Steam, so maybe it'll work then. Although I've already got a digital copy, so I can just leave it as is when the CE arrvies.
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>>186500415
This your first time in /sthg/, anon?
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>>186442309
Who drew that?
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>>186500415
I only lurk here for cute pictures of Amy
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>>186500528
did you just

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejr9KBQzQPM
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>>186494360
>Sticks ends up in Forces and pretty much spends all her time around Buddy

How would this make you feel?
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>>186501306
i did!
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>>186497038
Thank GOD.
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>>186497038
Good to know, people seemed to have a lot of trouble with the turning in Park Avenue and City Heights
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I just discovered how much Sonic bimbofication art there is while looking up images of Rouge.

Why is this a thing?
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>>186501856
I'd love it, but I can't see it happening.

But with the dimension hopping going on, and that theory that Sonic Boom was initially going to be more involved with the game, and with how much Sonic Team has enjoyed including Sticks in their media lately, I suspect that Sticks will have a cameo appearance SOMEWHERE in the game, even if it's just an easter egg, or a bit of dialogue in a single level.
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>Mania team gets to make a new game
>playable characters are Sonic, Mighty and Ray

how would you feel?
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>>186503201
Ehh
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>>186497038
>Classic was pretty much put in Forces after Generations was well received
The game was somehow, not fucking Classic. The chao garden was insanely well received so where the fuck is that?
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>>186503371
Well Iizuka was also asked about SA3 & I guess this is what he thinks of anything Adventure-related

>[Laughs] Really?
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>>186503559
In his defense he was responding to the mention of Big the Cat. Thanks to the time spent with Aaron meme man his default reaction to Big is to act bewildered.
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>>186500857
No, doing stupid minigames and then trials as Blaze for the Sol Emeralds is a fucking bore. It pads out a game that really doesn't need padding.

>YOU CAN'T DISLIKE SHITTY MINIGAMES UNLESS UR BAD AT VIDEO GAMES
Every time I was in the sub I just thought of how much more fun I'd be having if I popped EBA back into the DS instead.

Johnny's levels were fun, though. Probably one of the best special stages in the series.
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>>186504054
Does playing the game on 3DS fix any boss framerate issues?
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>>186504258
Iunno, maybe?
Probably not, as I don't know any other games that get frame rate bumps on 3DS.
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>>186492914

Nice edit.
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So, Sonic got his first good game, huh.
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>>186504546
Guaranteed replies
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>>186500415
The good Sonic discussion is on /v/ in the Mania threads. I just come here to farm the occasional (You)
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>>186491507
Like the ones in Stardust Speedway?
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>>186503201
>Sonic gets the drop dash
>Mighty gets the instashield
>Ray gets the peel out
gimmie gimmie
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Yes or yes?
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>>186505042
Please tell me this isn't a common thing.
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>>186504258
No there can still be a few dips in framerate on the bosses here and there. A shame, because they're some of my favorite bosses ever too.

>>186504054
With the exception of the Jetski because of the special stages (which I agree are probably my favorite next to Mania's) you only use each vehicle minigame like 5 times each unless you are fucking up and having to repeat them.

You're really blowing things out of proportion. Its a tiny part of the game that, yeah pads it out a bit, but the bulk of the actual content of the game is incredibly fun, and the minigames aren't even really bad neither. The Submarine one is probably the easiest and most fun.

It's not like SA2 where 2/3rds of the game is shitty padding and you barely get to enjoy the game. The small breaks in gameplay are very brief and not impossible to enjoy.
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>>186505324
it's as common as you want it to be. if you don't want to glitch the transformation, don't do the glitch. it's not some random occurrence.
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>>186505324
I havent seen that happen to me once
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>>186492914
Are you trying to trick me again, anon?
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>>186504887
>/v/ Mania threads
>good discussion
It's no different from here. Console war fagging, the people who enjoyed Mania saying they're enjoying it, autism over Mania tying into Forces, retards thinking Mania PC is gonna have DRM etc.

And before Mania released, it was utter shit & far worse than here
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>>186505314
Should've kept the clothes or at least added stripes or fur markings to her body.
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Man, Titanic Monarch is pretty dumb, there's no way to know what the robots do the first time you face them, which leads to cheap game-overs, which means you need to replay both levels over again before you get back to try again.

Repeat 6 times and hope you don't get RNG'd.
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>>186477380
Holy shit it just dawned on me that rather than Shadow they could have had Gemerl, that would have made more sense and been really hype. And while I am sure that most would rather they replace Zavok it would be better to replace Shadow so we don't have another evil Shadow plot. Hell, maybe they could have brought back Emerl through whatever means.
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>>186505828
I'm confused why Egg Reverie isn't a separate level when you Game Over. You can't access it unless you beat the final boss, yet the level select considers it a separate battle

It means you essentially have to marathon Titanic Monarch, and for a final level it's a huge fucking let down
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>>186505828
>One blows air at you
>The other homes in on you and takes like 15 seconds before it does anything, plenty of time to get out its range
>I dont even remember what the Mega Man knock off enemy does.. Electrocutes? Yeah
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>>186505828
I don't really know what you're talking about. Only Shinobi is tricky at all.

Also
>We were surprised how much people enjoyed the gameplay and the character, and it is something we’re very aware of now that people really love Classic Sonic.

Jesus, is Iizuka retarded?
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>>186505828
good thing the way health works in sonic games means you're basically invulnerable unless you fuck up like a retard
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>>186506423
>invulnerable for 2 seconds
>rings fly off the screen/overlap enemies

Ok.
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>>186506551
>unless you fuck up like a retard
Ring physics in Classic Sonic aren't as bad as you say they are, you're looking for excuses

I'd agree with you if this was Rush or 4 because the ring physics in those games are retarded
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>>186505423
>you only use each vehicle minigame like 5 times each unless you are fucking up and having to repeat them.
Yeah, so that adds up to nearly an hour of busywork seeing as the three worst ones are like two minutes long. This is also ignoring that if you want to seek out those bonus island levels to reduce tedium, you can easily just completely fail to find one after a minigame due to the fog of war on the map, adding to your time spent doing tedious shit.

I don't think it's unreasonable to say an hour of garbage weighs down an 8 level platformer. I wouldn't play NSMB2 if I had to do this shit on the way to each world and to find extra stages. It's shitty padding in a genre where the appeal is the pick-up-and-play nature. FUCK that. You don't get to say I'm wrong for not wanting to deal with an hour's worth of garbage minigames just to play an average platformer.
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>>186506663
You forgot the Game Gear titles, those ring physics are even worse. I'm not even sure if you can pick them back up.
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>>186505828
Oh please. You have plenty of time to figure out what's going on and react. And, as >>186506423 says, you have one of the most forgiving health systems in a platformer. Unless you're an absolute shitter, you shouldn't be dying at ever single heavy the first time you fight it.

>RNG'd
What does RNG have anything to do with the fight?
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>>186506663
>YOU fuck up
>enemies you've never seen hitting you is fucking up

Ok.
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>>186506285
Why are people in charge always fucking dumb. I don't get it man
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>>186497038
>That evolved into being able to choose from various character types of animals that already exist in the Sonic universe, so now you get to choose an animal and customize it. You can change how it looks right down to the facial features.

I really want to see some more of this character creator now.
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>>186434834
Act 1 is race.
Act 2 is battle.
Here you go.
>>186448189
Wait what?
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>>186506773
I forgot about those. System limitations are a bitch

>>186506804
The invincivility is a lot longer than you're giving it credit for. Only thing that's going to kill you instantly in the interval is crushing or pits. And if you have like over 50 rings you'll be able to at least collect 10 of them
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>>186506895
I heard in Japan seniority means everything, he won't leave that post until he croaks.
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>>186506423
I was under the impression that you had to beat the Heavies each time, which lead to deaths because I was trying to kick their shit in rather than waiting it out and taking potshots.

Given how huge, annoying and honestly exhausting as Titanic Monarch is, the Heavies being their own tiny instances instead of helpers who jump in (which better communicates "AVOID OR TAKE OUT") was a really bad design decision. I only GO'd once, but still.
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>>186506804
>come up to animal with big mouth full of sharp teeth
>"woooow, it bit me! how was I supposed to know it was going to do that?"
This is you. You're sounding like DSP. It's pretty easy to see what the Heavies are going to do. If there's a robot carrying two giant missile launchers in its hands, it's probably going to be firing missiles at you.
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>>186495739
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>>186506285
Look at this beautiful face.
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>>186507298
>stay away from animal with sharp teeth
>it shoots me with a gun
>YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN

Ok.
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>>186505828
I didn't die to the Titanic Monarch boss, which surprised me considering how bad I usually am.
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>Sonic 3: Knuckles is chuckling and mischievous
>Sonic OVA: Knuckles is goofy and funny
>Sonic Adventure: HURR KNUCKLES DOESN'T CHUCKLE, HE'S ALWAYS 100% SERIOUS ALL THE TIME
>Sonic Adventure 2: Knuckles is serious all the time again
>Sonic Heroes: Knuckles is more laid back, even brings out his mischievous side again when he jokes about Shadow's ghost with Tails

Why do you guys say Heroes ruined the characters again? If anything, it was the Adventure games.
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>>186503201
>the Sequel is the Sonic & Knuckles situation
>Instead of collecting 7 chaos emeralds you collect 7 Phantom Rubies.
>Tails & Knuckles unlocked if you have Mania on your save file or beat all of the bonus stages.
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Is the 3DS version of Sonic 2 more prone to glitches or something? I swear I keep unrolling on normal ground and getting stuck inside level geometry.
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>>186507576
Nothing like that happens in those fights and you know it.
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Hey guys
have yo accepted that mania was a mistake?
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>>186508336
Heroes didn't really ruin the characters, it just made them a bit obnoxious when talking over the gameplay

Shadow was the game that ruined characters
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>>186506985
Yeah, Eggman building them is bullshit. It's just five egg robos that got transformed when ruby randomly activated.
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>>186508336
It WAS the Adventure games, anybody who isn't retarded should see that.

The personalities you see in Boom and Sonic X all originated with the Adventure games. You could argue Boom is more polished and works for what it is, but ehh. Knuckles deserves better. Mania did him justice though.
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>>186508627
How so?
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>>186508627
You're right. It's only a 9/10 instead of a 10/10
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>>186508627
have yo accepted that your birth was a mistake?
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>>186508627
yes, it was a mistake that it took so long for such a game to be made
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>>186508759
Sonic being laid back was always a thing, and Tails and Amy didn't change.

Knuckles is the only one who got character assassinated.
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>>186508696
Where is such thing was stated? I got super ending and had no idea about this. Is this a "read betwen lines" kind of thing?
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>>186509068
Yeah Knuckles was really the main main focus, he's the only one who's character got ruined.

They decided "strong guy" must also mean "dumb guy", and Boom ran with it further but making him a big brute-looking oaf.

Thankfully Mania was very respectful of Knuckles, and all things considered they didn't pull and cheap "Knuckles is an idiot" gags in his Forces dialogue from what we have seen thus far either. So many it's blue skies ahead for the guy.
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>>186509328
In the opening cinematic where a bunch of Egg Robos unearth the Phantom Ruby and when Sonic's transported to Green Hill they become the Heavies
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Sonic needs RPGs. Not just a single new one, it needs to become its own subseries like Mario has Mario & Luigi, because characters and story has always been the biggest selling point of the Sonic franchise.
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>>186509328
the manual
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>>186509967
Sonic Battle is basically that.
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>>186509967
>characters
sure
>story
pffft
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>>186508759
>Sonic X Sonic is a goody two shoes who never shows up to a fight until the last second
>Adventure Sonic has an attitude and looks for battles to fight
>Sonic X Tails is just there
>Adventure Tails has self esteem issues and deals with them
>Sonic X Amy is obsessed with Sonic and seems to enjoy hurting him
>Adventure Amy is just an annoying fangirl who eventually starts toning it down
>Sonic X Knuckles is an overly serious gullible retard
>Adventure Knuckles is overly serious and gullible but not too much of a retard except in Sonic Adventure 2
you're so right
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>>186509469
Huh, i never conected the dots.
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new thread when?
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>>186510325
Well I did follow up and say I was mostly thinking about Knuckles
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page 10
just let the general die
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>>186510514
It was literally in your face on full display. How'd you miss that?
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>>186510630
oh. nevermind then. I knew you were talking about knuckles but I could have swore you said 'all the characters' somewhere in your post.
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new thread when
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>>186510763
t them, but I thought the Ruby was causing Time travel shenanigans and the Heavies were the Egg Robos from a later point in time, not transformed by the Ruby.
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>>186511069
>I thought the Ruby was causing Time travel shenanigans
>no indication of time traveling in the scene
Are you that writer that assumed Amy could fly, too?
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>>186505423
>Hating on the treasure hunting levels aside mad space
>Hating Weapons bed, eternal engine, hidden base, and cosmic wall

Out of my sight.
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>>186510660
burn it to the ground!
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>>186511668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRMy7IDegBA
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>>186511668
LIGHT ME UP!
COOL ME DOWN, BABY!
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>>186511343
>Go to a place from Sonic's past
>Makes a ratcheting down noise, the type of which is often associated with time fuckery.
>Uses inverted colors, another popular time fucker cue.
>Time travel is obscenely common in this series.
>So are transformations, which always occur on-screen.
>The Heavies don't transform on screen.

>CLEARLY you should have assumed this was a mere spacial warp that also transformed the robots while you weren't looking.

Dude come on. It's a pretty easy mistake to make.
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>>186467792
>>186470120
sorry for the late reply
for editing and replacing the sprites and palettes in Sonic Battle, just use Paint or a similar raster graphics software
for recording and testing purposes, mGBA is the best option.
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>>186511979
So you're saying it looked like Sonic got taken to the past, where the future versions of the Egg Robos he just saw were waiting. Also, for some reason, the Phantom Ruby plus chunk of Angel Island was still waiting there in the big claw beside future Egg Robos in the past.
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g-guys, are we dead?
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>>186512790
>>186512790
>>186512790
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>>186512693
yes

press f
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>>186512616
Yeah? Visual continuity.

Only Sonic and Tails were spinning, not the Robos. It'd make sense to have the same scene play out in a different time period to establish: "HEY, IT'S THEM!"

Clearly isn't what the game was going for, but still.
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>>186509967
I think bioware fucked up our only shot at that.
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>>186512978
Except it doesn't make any sense from a narrative or logical perspective. Why are robots from the future in the past? Why were they waiting right there? Honestly, I wouldn't doubt Sonic and Tails got taken to the past, seeing as Stardust Speedway starts out in the past version and Sonic takes a Future signpost to Act 2, but robots from the future just being there somehow makes no sense, no matter how you look at it. You have to come up with some roundabout reasoning to justify it.
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>>186513379
Dude, the future badguy being in the past is common as fuck in time travel stories.
I was expecting a full causality loop with the Ruby transporting the Heavies into the past near the end of the game.
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Hi, same anon that posted his theory about the eventual appereance of Sonic Man in the comics before the cancelation. I have some writefag idea about an hypotetical Moebius Shadow, anyone interested?
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>>186514184
No.
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Does anyone know where Booru-anon went? We haven't had a major update in months.
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Make me buy Mania for the switch.
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>>186515442
Hey... buy Mania for the Switch.
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