Ace Combat General #331 - /aceg/

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First for bombers.

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First for Wyvern a cutie

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Discuss.

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First for Swedish jets

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>>186093692
4th for biggest

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>>186093719
Russian planes are a meme.

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>>186093719
impressive pilot survival rate

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>>186093697
That is true

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>>186094017
>wrong pic

There is literally nothing wrong with SlyCooperFan1

>>186094308
>t. Sly

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>>186093751
Second for sexy Gripen

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It's super weird when other people post F-4s.

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>>186097653
Have some more cute spook

>>186095530
Won't even question this one

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>>186095530
Forward swept cuties.

>>186104345
>fw 198
Wat

>>186105006
Future War 198X

>>186105060
And here I thought that was some other napkinwaffe thing by Focke Wulf.

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>>186105186
>doesn't even recognize Tu-22M2's
s m h

>>186105548
Well no, but I know my ruski stars and I also know that FW never produced any shit like that, but you never know with some animus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK_GpKfVyl4

>9

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>V.05

>>186105947
Got sauce for that one?
Also, may I ask if you're learning to fly as a civilian or in the military? I have some questions about the later's gear.

>>186109167
Not pilot anon, but that animu is most likely Konpeki no Kantai, crazy alt-WW2 scenario where Germany beats the Soviets, Japan beats the US, then Germany and Japan fight.

>>186110275
>Konpeki no Kantai
That does look like it, thanks!

Ayy Gigi or Brady, what's up with that coop AC X2?

>>186111345
im gonna be busy from today to friday, maybe saturday and sunday too so no go

>>186111345
Hamachi machine broken
Sometime in the future, don't despair.

>>186111487
>>186111545
aaaaw bollocks. Maybe next time m80s.

>>186109167
>learning to fly as a civilian or in the military
Civ cessna tier pilot, can't help you with military gear.

>>186109167
There's a certain autist around here who can probably answer all your questions.

>>186109167
What's the question? And for what gear?

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>>186112871
Thanks nonetheless.
>>186113291
If I'm guessing right, he could probably tell me all about this set, which is good enough for my purposes, tbqh.
>>186113860
Other than the more obvious pieces of a pilot's gear, I wonder what all the pockets usually hold (pic related is not a good example of the sort of suit I'm refering to.
It's for drawing and design purposes, I want to be able to draw pilot suits without forgetting elements.

>>186114501
Speaking of that gear, someone needs to tell me where the oxy hose connects to. It's aircraft fed, no? Where does it plug in, while not getting in the way?

>pockets
My best guess is the survival stuff, pilots carry quite a few rations and all for when they get shot down. But I'm sure there's more.
The only other thing I can guess is that you'd probably find something on the upper leg to hold notes, maps and stuff

>>186114501
That looks pretty antiquated, and it's not a great picture.

The yellow thing is probably the inflatable vest in case they end up in the drink. Modern ones are designed differently to try and force an unconscious pilot into a face up position, they don't go as far down the chest are are referred to as inflatable collars.

The pill bottle on the pilot's upper right is probably a strobe light. If i remember correctly, newer ones are self activating when immersed in water. Obviously the knife is the knife and the gun is the gun. The knife is positioned for easy access in case you need to cut the chute lines. A parachute in the water will get very heavy. The grey bit is the survival pack with radio.

On the legs a pilot wears leg garter restraints, and the G-suit "chaps" that will automatically inflate. Typically they will have a clear pocket for a map. A red light is typically carried so as not to ruin night vision when using it. Normally a grease pen is used as well.

>>186115839
>Speaking of that gear, someone needs to tell me where the oxy hose connects to. It's aircraft fed, no?

Depends on the aircraft. On the F-15E for example, it attaches from the right sidewall of the aircraft near the emergency manual chute handle, and connects the the regulator on the end of hose. The hose hangs from the mask exactly as pictured, and the aircraft feed hose connects to it.

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>>186114501
Well, for Navy pilots the gear usually looks like this:
They wear a low profile floatation collar, which you can see around the neck. On the front there is an oxygen regulator in a bag, where the hose to the oxygen mask ends. Extending from that bag, an oxygen regulator is installed, where the pilot can regulate the oxygen pressure under the mask. On the left you can see a flashlight, with a weapon in the pocket next to it (most likely not 100% sure). On the right, you can see two pockets containing survival gear, such as a knife, a carabiner, a two-way radio, painkillers, a whistle, a signal light, a bottle, a text in multiple languages, a small rope and some ammunition. I'll get a picture of that posted as well.

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>>186117454
Here it is.

>>186117041
>If i remember correctly, newer ones are self activating when immersed in water
That is correct. At least it is a requirement for civil life vests, and I doubt they changed much on that front for the military.

>log into infinity to see if it's ded yet
>see all the /aceg/ people i added to my friend list
>full of last log in 8+ months ago
What a sad way for infinity to die.

>>186117649
Neat. I'm not and can never be a pilot, so all my information is second hand. It's nice to know when it's accurate.

>>186117793
Why can't you be a pilot? D:

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>>186117041
>>186117454
Sorry about the quality. It's an early 50s flight suit. Pic related is from the sixties, in case you spot things that were added between revisions, but I think you two covered just about everything. Thank you very much!

A couple additional questions:
Would a pressure suit be able to be used as a G-suit too (or at least adapted for that)? Would a mechanical counterpressure suit be usable as the sort of pressure suit worn by pilots or is the later usage of term misleading me?
(I come from a mostly space-oriented background, so I sometimes wonder if I'm not mislead by false cognates) I will not discard not thinking straight due to being sleepy, that said.

>>186117793
Or let me clarify it's a european requirement for sure. No clue about FAA or ICAO, but probably too, shit's all similar anyway.
You can just look that up for american stuff on ecfr though. Title 14 and then probably Subpart K of FAR 121

>>186118136
They don't let autistic people into the ariforce.

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>>186117692
>remember I've got something like ~20 unused fuel
>think "Hey, I'll start an /aceg/ Buddy room!"
>log in
>start trying to find a mission because why not
>[No rooms found]
>check my mission completion rank
>fucking D
>remember that it's still fucked from when my host ragequit and kicked everyone the last time I played
>remember why I quit playing in the first place

>>186118136
I wouldn't be able to obtain a class 3 or higher medical certificate.

>>186118231
A pressure suit by itself wouldn't be able to function as a G suit, as a full pressure suit exerts pressure evenly on the whole body to allow respiration. A G-suit works by restricting circulation in the lower extremities so that blood is not able to pool there during positive G situations. You could wear a G-suit underneath a pressure suit.

The more brownish coverings on the legs are the parts that inflate.

>>186118231
>>186118740

Also, a G-suit inherently has a partial pressure suit component to it to assist in breathing.

>"(2) Demonstrate an acceptable understanding of speech as determined by audiometric speech discrimination testing to a score of at least 70 percent obtained in one ear or in a sound field environment."
holy fuck i barely make it dont you fuck me biology

>>186118740
>>186119076
A pressure suit maintains even pressure by "inflating" itself with air, have I got that right?
A MCP suit maintains pressure by pressing against the skin, technically being an unpressurized suit. Would having areas that can adjust pressure to simulate a G-suit sound reasonable?
Sorry for asking theorical questions more fit for near-future speculative fiction discussion.

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>>186118363
Guess that means everyone in this general wont be able to become a pilot

>>186118231
Well, a pressure suit is mainly there to keep a low pressure (such as the vacuum of space) away from the body. A g-suit is usually made of very tight trousers that inflate when the pilot performs high-g maneuvers, which presses blood out of the lower parts of the body and enables a steady stream to the brain, which prevents a blackout. Typical g-suits just apply pressure to the legs and the abdomen, high-g suits also apply pressure to the lungs to enable better breathing, thereby increasing endurance even further.
Kep in mind that g-suits can't enable a human to withstand more g's, but allow them to withstand higher g's (8-9) for longer.
The only way to increase the g-limit of a human is via liquid breathing, but that sutff's not even in a real prototype stage yet.

>>186119618
Thanks for clearing those points up. Isn't it preferable to lower the pressure around the lungs to allow breathing, though?
>liquid breathing
Now that I think about it, I never went into that rabbit hole with my ideas. I don't think I will since I imagine waterproofing all the instruments would be bothersome to say the least. For COFFIN cockpits, though... Too bad I don't use those, it's like a match made in heaven: mind-machine interface, high G resistance and sensory deprivation tank to eliminate any input noise.

>>186119457

In my understanding, in a full pressure suit, the suit is pressured with air to simulate an environment of higher pressure (lower altitude) to allow proper respiration. Above ~8,000m you enter the death zone, where there's not enough oxygen in the environment to actually sustain human life for an extended duration, there will always be a net deficit. You can breathe pure oxygen to combat this, but at about 12,000m you need to be breathing pressurized oxygen. At a certain point, the disparity between the outside pressure and your internal pressure means that respiration is impossible.

I don't know what an MCP suit is, but theoretically if it had isolated sacks of liquid or air that could be controlled by a g-valve, then yes it could function as a G-suit.

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>>186120264
The idea I had concerning suits capable to apply pressure selectively mostly stem from the VOTOMS pilot suit, shown in the Pailsen Files to have "wiring" bellow them to interrupt bleeding, pic related.
Mechanical counterpressure suits are the irl counterpart to the sci-fi skintight suit, only actually working.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_activity_suit
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacesuits.php#id--Skintight_Suits

thoughts

>>186124329
What about them

>>186124329
endless

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>>186125019
Awful way to pilot an airplane.

>>186125050
in

>>186125326
flight

>>186125871
<<WOOF>

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>>186126190
YOU BROKE THE CHAIN YOU FUCKING BELKAN

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>>186126296
atleast he didnt crash it

>>186126435
Indeed. I'm no Chopper

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>>186126435
d e l e t
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>>186126474
i'd rather be a chopper than a hamilton

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>ywn lead an 8 man squadron with perfect uniform liveries
i just want to be Phoenix for a day

fox

>>186132004
two

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>>186132004
Force Four

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1502674483804.webm

>>186134578
>Hornets
Too bad the catapult didn't break.

>>186134703
You really don't like F-18s, do you?

>>186134947
I hate the Navy in general, fucking assholes with their boats and planes and soldiers, how come they get all three?
Pearl Harbour 2 can't come soon enough.

>>186135129
You hate them because they're well-equipped?

>>186135129
>armyfag detected

>>186136994
Also their plane looks dumb.

>>186137209
>in a general about planes
>armyfag
Really makes me think.

Why does the navy get plens anyway, wouldn't the air force get pissy about that

>>186138382
What's the Navy supposed to use to protect their ships, then? Harsh language?

>>186139695
Air Force planes attached to their fleets.

>>186139794
Isn't it just simpler to give the Navy planes to with as it pleases?

Also the Navy had planes long before the Air Force even existed, so this entire argument is retarded.

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>>186132004
die

>>186140079
Then why do the marines get planes and operate them off of navy carriers?

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>>186137368
>am armyfag
>in thread about planes
hmm

>>186142093
Because despite every ounce of work they put in to make you think otherwise, the United States Marine Corps is part of the Department of the Navy

>>186145946
Well of course they need Marines on Navy ships.
Sheep would be too obvious.

>>186145946
I though they separated a while back

Top Gun : Combat Zone, everyone?
https://youtu.be/pV_V03j79fM

>>186146950
i had that, but couldn't get past 1 of the misssions i think it was 1 of the missions in a city.
i might be able to do it now it was a long time ago, i was young when i played it

>>186135129
Navy don't have infantries except the SEALs

>>186146908
Quoting Marine-sponsored histories, they've been part of the Department of the Navy since June 30, 1834

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>>186149504
Marines and sailors love puchis and they even have them sing the US national anthem

remember to report the puchifag above me

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>>186150618
Puchis are part of AC, as seen in this picture
They are on topic

>>186150319
>>186151204
what the fuck are these
they're not even entertaining just autismoshit cantonese cartoons

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>>186151490
>replying to bait

In AC4, does shooting down aces in free mission count towards unlocking the alternate planes?

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>>186152547
No, it unlocks puchis to accompany you on your next sortie

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>>186152719
GAS THE PUCHIS IDOL WAR NOW

>>186153021
Real idolm@ster>dumb puchi shit

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>>186153092
Planes>Idolshit>puchis.
Y'know actually, planes>everything.

>>186152547
Never mind, finally found the answer online. Yes, free missions do count.
>>186153457
Planes with idols on them are the best, I hope Namco goes full shill with AC7 and has a large assortment of IM@S planes from every series.

>>186153457
That wonderful moment when /aceg/ buddies love puchis.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105341969
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105456717
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105457058
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105457779
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105460415
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105461536
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105461640
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/105207187/#105462297
You should keep loving them

>>186153021
>not Yamato
bleh

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F

>>186159779
baby jet

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>>186160046
post younglings

>>186158163
Did they ever dredge it up? I wonder if you can still see it, I'm pretty close to Lake Worth.

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>>186158163
>freshly assembled planes witnessing the early death of one of their brethren.
the poor things must have been scarred for life.

>>186154123
Who the fuck introduced puchishit to /aceg/?

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>>186162065

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>>186162065

ded

>>186173665
Keep it ded until next week when Gamescom comes

Does anyone have a source that hints of before-end-of-March release date of AC7?

>>186174938
Got no article in hand about it, but Bandai-Namco said that they'd release games before the end of their fiscal year (that ends in March) and one of these games is Ace Combat 7, since they also said that AC7 was delayed to 2018.

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>when you realise your pixy folder is your largest /aceg/ folder

>>186178456
Is it larger than the drawbuddy folder?

>>186178659
They're spread around based on what plane it is, so yes.

>>186178857
Doesn't that make one or two images per folder? Other than those like the euroflanker that got a lot of revisions.

>>186179031
>he doesn't have a seperate folder for every plane

>>186179090
I meant for the thread OCs, not photographs and schematics.

>>186179156
Oh they just go in with whatever plane they're based off of.

>>186179208
My folders work like this:
>Manufacturer
>-Model
>--Variants
>Artist
The artist ones aren't sorted by model, much like I don't sort fanart by franchise in non-planefag artist's folders.

>>186179090
>>186179208
At some point I should probably fo that too. Mostly going off filenames as is

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Let's inject some belkan goodness.

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Best livery coming through

>>186182440
is there a full set of these for each plane in Air Combat?

>>186182598
Not sure, I've only got this one.

>>186181215
>Crimson Skies.png

<< Morale check >>

How are you holding up, /aceg/?

>>186185615
<<could be better, could be worse>>
captcha : chaff lane

>>186185615
Coming down with a head cold.
But on the other hand, I found my F-14 and VF-1 patches, so that's pretty sweet.

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>>186175180
Here's hoping AC7 doesn't get delayed further to mid-2018 at the soonest or late-2018 at the latest with Kono saying the arc words "please understand".

I beat AC4 and started 5. Couple questions:

1) at any point does the carrier reload mechanic come back? I keep running out of missiles. I suspect I'm meant to use the fuck out of the wingman system.
2) Good God, why aren't there checkpoints? Getting through two phases of a mission just to accidentally crash or get shot down only to start from the very beginning is a serious demotivator.

Other than those two things I'm enjoying the game. The flying feels a lot more responsive than 4, though so far the music hasn't quite been up to par. I'm only at the mission with the carriers rendezvousing in the strait though.

>>186189762
I think there's at least one mission where you can reload. The soundtrack gets better.

>>186189762

>at any point does the carrier reload mechanic come back

It doesn't, unfortunately.

>>186189762
there is no mission in 5 with checkpoints or rearming
have fun

>>186189762
Running out of missiles is normal in the beginning, just get a new plane and you should get enough missiles to carry out the following missions.
Don't rely too much on your wingmen, they're pretty much retarded in this game.

>>186190164
dont forget you can also cheese it from mission 5 with the f-22 if you complete arcade mode

>>186189824
>>186189895
>>186189947
>>186190164
And they say this general is dead. I will say that running out of missiles isn't the catastrophy it would be in 4 since the controls are improved enough that one can reliably shoot planes down.
I haven't been wanting to trust the wingmen because the missions have largely been <<protect the fucking ships>> which makes me sweat to trust a PS2 AI with.

>>186190668
They can be pretty useless, but sometimes they do shoot down targets. Don't rely on them and you might be pleasantly surprised now and then

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Here are the patches I found if any of you buddies are interested

>>186190668
I almost exclusively use the gun whenever expedient on ground targets in AC5.

>>186192089
fuck off namefag

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>>186193232
>newbuddy detected
Something something thread culture.

>>186193232
Even if you hate namefags those patches are kinda cool

>>186193232
>hates namefag
I assume you know Quizno

>>186193592
It's actually kind of weird how benign /aceg/s namefags are, considering how utterly shitty they are everywhere else on this site.

>>186193896
Maybe because they actually care about the subject matter and/or contribute by being content creators (from comfy streams to vidya, passing by artwork). There aren't namefag waifufaggots (closest thing is the fionafag, but he doesn't use a name) or namefag shitposters (for the later, most don't post regularly).

>>186194120
I think the Fionaposter took over for Ayumiposter, as far as roles are concerned.

>>186194175
>Ayumiposter
Goddamn, now there's a name I haven't heard in a long-ass time.

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>game's face when <<Missile shot trashed!>>

>>186189762
>The flying feels a lot more responsive than 4, though so far the music hasn't quite been up to par.

Really? I thought 5's soundtrack was a substantial improvement over 04's. 04 always bums me out with its weighty gameplay, dead environments with muted colors and more atmospheric music. While not bad things persay, I feel the combined execution makes for a tiring experience.

Also docu anon, check your inbox

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You are now reminded that this happened

>>186194120
speaking of strims
you guys wanna see AC1 or AC2? will be on at 8 or 9ish (or 4-5ish hours) to do it so i'll let you guys decide on it

>>186194446
Another anon said it improves, but thusfar nothing has wowed me the way Echo or Scramble has.

>>186194989
Wait for Scinfaxi, then.

>>186194446
The three combined lends the overall experience that much more impact and authenticity for me.

Really makes you feel like you're in the cockpit looking down on the war below and that its serious business. And despite the longer intervals of time, the weight of the days stretching to weeks stretching into months passing by as the war drags on is somehow more pronounced than the other two PS2 titles.

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>>186194789
>Oyveynir and Grabmoney

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>>186194789
>A Jewish Lord who struck down all opposition
Fuck, that was a fun thread

>>186194120
What about the our friendly neighborhood Quizno?

>>186196940
I prefer Subway myself.

https://youtu.be/zK6LIyYqdjY?t=97
Is that Blaze who stand near the fireplace at 1:37?

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>>186197519
blaze appears in a couple cutscenes, always either obstructed or his head being out of view
I guess they figured that since they were doing the story about the characters in your squad they couldn't just have him not appear in any of the cutscenes
I'm pretty sure he's to the right of grimm here

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>>186192089
Nice haul!

>>186197898
>that bit of hand showing
Aw, it'd be funny if you never so much as saw any of his skin just to drive home the "It's YOU" aspect of it

>>186198301
well if that's what you want you can instead consider the guy behind grimm's left shoulder to be blaze, since you can't see any of his body

>>186197898
why does Genette look like Edward Norton

>>186198365
It's probably that, desu. Blaze would most likely have been in his flight suit like Nagase and Grimm.

>>186197898
Nagase a cute

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>>186194789
>mfw i came up with one after the screencap already was made

>>186198023
What's with the bulges?

>>186197898
Would it be fine if they did the same thing with Trigger in AC7?

>>186201353
honestly I'd be fine with giving trigger a face just so they don't have to keep framing cutscenes like this and as long as he didn't talk I'd be fine with it.
I never really got into that whole 'I have to be able to relate to the protagonist' thing so it wouldn't bother me.
but yeah if they did it like this I'd be fine with it.
although it looks more like the cutscenes in AC7 are from the Erusian perspective while you play the Oseans

>186193232
Oh boy it's this episode again.

>>186200925
Lifted straight from the F-35. I used them as analogs to the four "fins" the F-14 has.

>>186202424
That bulge on the F-35 is for the internal autocannon.

>>186202672
Nice, seems I didn't fuck up while picking details, other than putting a second one for symmetry's sake.

>>186197898

Speaking of Blaze, why exactly do the Base Commands still call you Blaze instead of something like Razgriz 1 after you saved the President? I would've assume Blaze is officially dead in the ODF records and wouldn't that raise some questions?

>>186194789

>No <<Short away, coward!!>>

This is why Pixy couldn't beat Cipher even after he made PJ go broke by using Tactical Insider Trading

>>186189762
But if you're playing mission 5, then you must have just finished mission 4 (first flight, where you protect the island from an air raid), which has top three music in the game

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>>186203402
That's actually a question I've been asking myself of late. I don't think anyone outside of Chopper (jokingly), the Belkans and Oka Nieba referred to you as the Razgriz, even though there was a whole cutscene dedicated to your reformation. The Razgriz Air Command Squadron was the President's personal squadron iirc. While they served directly under the President, Pops was their commanding officer.

It would have been nice to hear them as Razgriz 1, 2, 3 and 4.

>>186202991
Well, that and the fact that placing the cannons there would most likely interfere with the variable wing sweep mechanism

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Tfw Wardog/Razgriz's signature aircraft is the F-14 because Kono's favorite aircraft is the F-14 and Kono directed AC5

Tfw without Kono it would probably be the fucking Raptor again

>>186208559
Failing to take internals into consideration is the thing I trip the most with. Being visual-focused (comes with drawing rather than actually developping an aircraft) has it's downsides, even if I try to keep function in mind.

>>186209852
>AC7s cover plane might be the F-14
I would be 110% OK with this.

>>186209852
>AC1 YF 22
>AC2 Flanker
>AC3 Flanker
>AC4 Raptor
>AC5 Tomcat
>AC0 Eagle
>ACX Raptor
>ACX2 Raptor
>ACI Raptor
It's more of a recent trend than anything

>>186210151
You usually start with a shape for aircraft design. Well mission parameters, but after that you choose a shape to cram everything into and alter the shape if need be.

Not that we're doing high aircraft design around here.

>>186210526
Yuta Hamanaka who directed 6 and Joint Assault. Kono is Executive Producer. Sunao Katabuchi is the writer, having written the story for both 04 and 5, so he's having to bring together two worlds for 7.

>>186196940
He hasn't posted here in a good year desu. People falseflag him a lot. Protip he posts with a trip not just a name. Or do you honestly believe that anyone who puts on a name is that person?

>>186211060
My mistake, Hamanka directed Infinity and Joint Assault.

>>186211060
oh right, raptor probably is canon plane then as Reaper and Antres 1 flew F-22
i deleted my post thinking you meant kono was director

>>186210710
>not that we're doing high aircraft design
Mine tend to follow a "like an aircraft, use it as a model" approach (requests not taken into account for obvious reasons), so tbqh it looks to me that your approach is better, or at least gives results more fitting for the context of the aircraft. I don't think I would be able to decide which design elements are better suited most of the times, though.

>>186210606
>>AC7s cover plane might be the F-14

Maybe even with lasers.

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>>186213270

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>>186213270
>my planefu as the cover of the new game

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>>186212971
At some point I should read stuff again. I'd still like to figure out how to get around giving a good estimate of what a design can do. I mean that push pull will obviously be stupidly fast, but the wings are also huge, but I can't tell if it'd be good at turning or holding it's energy at all for example.

The thing I can tell you though is that a lot of general aircraft design is "take something that's worked for your particular task before and go with it"

>>186213728

That picture is making me want to play Crimson Skies or something.

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>>186213831
>CS
Sounds about right. Here's the more regular version in an unfinished pic

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I feel like the ultimate switcharoo would be if the starfigher ends up on the cover

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>>186213270
>Maybe even with lasers.

>>186214346
>obsolete museum piece in a game about AIs and cutting edge technology

It'd be top irony, that's for sure.

>>186209852
>>186210606
>>186213270
>implying the cover aircraft won't be the F-104

>>186214346
>>186214469

>you spend the whole first part of the game using fancy future jets to shoot down other fancy future jets
>then youre replaced by drones and theres no more pilots
>the drones are taken control of by terrorists by which i mean Belkans
>you have to fight back
>but all the jets have been slaved to now-hacked ai control centres

>you have to go and steal museum pieces from WW2 era prop planes on up in order to try and fight back
They said that no one will be gripping a flight stick and taking to the sky.
They were wrong.

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>>186214813
and the only thing that can stop the Belkans is 80,000 lbs of Osean freedom on their control center

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>>186214813
>WW2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQewKKBF_lA

>>186215096

<<Phoenix Flight, we have to get those bombers off the ground. They're museum pieces like your fighters so they're taking some time - keep the drones off their backs!>>

Mission Objective :
Protect the museum hangar and runway as the two B-52s and the Lancaster are fueled and flown out of there.


>you're in spitfires and mustangs and 109s versus future-predator-drones

>>186197898
I think that's Blaze. When Bartlett speaks on the radio, Genette and Archer turn towards him to see a reaction. The only ones who really knew Bartlett were the main crew. I think.
Don't know why he wouldn't be in his flight suit though

>>186214813
>Feel the Rush of Superior Air Power

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>>186215420
>yfw Hans brought the fucking Triebflügel again
>yfw Hans strapped TLS' to the wings

>>186215839
>be flying bomber
>get shot down by Pink Floyd laser show

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>>186215839
>>186215936
Screencaped for Mars Belka wunderwaffe future reference. I'll have to replace the TLS with an actual laser, though.

>>186213728
It very much depends on what age the plane is based on. WW2 jet engines were terrible, so maybe not stupidly fast. Shortly after WW2 engines improved however, making the plane faster. The design is pretty big and if it's completely made out of metal, it will also be heavy. I am not sure what it's armament is, but I would guess 4x20mm and a 30mm in the nose. Armament weight is usually not a big issue, but has to be kept in mind. The wings don't seem overly huge for this design, but they do look like laminar flow wings, so high speed maneuverability would be a thing. That all depends on the overall weight though, if it's very high, the wing area to weight ratio might not be good, which drags maneuverability down.

>>186216705
Tl; dr: Depending on the year it was produced, it would be fast, especially in a dive, it's overall climb rate wouldn't be very good, but it could pull a good turn at higher speeds (it wouldn't keep up with a true turnfighter however). Boom 'n Zoom will be the most effective tactic.

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/aceg/ meet your new wingman

>>186217213
<< You're in fucky airspace! All planes break, break! >>

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>>186216705
>WW2 jet engines were terrible
Oh I was talking about the twin prop variant. The jet one was a fun experiment because some Anon wanted me to do that. Regular old sometimes VC tier WW2 tier tech though, there's no setting or anything associated with this thing, it doesn't even have a proper name yet.

>Size
I scaled it down quite a bit from the initial designs, it's now only slightly larger than a Mustang, perhaps the same size as a 335 or Jug

>Weight
I'll have to make a proper guesstimation at some point fuel and engines are gonna mess it up pretty badly. Then again that will help it with the inertia

>laminar
I'd have to check, honestly the wings on most of my models are just really simple airfoils that can be made easily, it might be though. Could probably adjust that now that you mention it.

>bnz
Well I was at that too, for obvious twin engine and size related reasons. The real questions is generally if it suffers from 190 syndrome or not. But yeah the general gist of it would be to 190 it.

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>>186215839
>>186216445

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>>186217713
You have launched a V2 at my sides

>>186217713
kek, beat me to it

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>>186217713
>MUH

>>186217213
Even with that eyesight, he would be able to dodge a ricocheting plane.

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>>186217713

Oh dear god.

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>>186217713

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>>186217713
YES

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>>186217713
>SSTO confirmed launch of my sides

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Ace Combat 2 is up.
twitch dot tee vee slash heist_gigi

>>186217659
Which 190 syndrome are you referring to?

Hey gigi, where have you been? Just realised that you were back for idk how long.

>>186219559
a few hours

>>186219276
The one trick pony one

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Glorious 50's technology coming through

>>186220082
Oh, I thought you meant the FW 190s high altitude problems :P
I think your plane will most likely be a heavy fighter in it's role, even though it's only marginally bigger than a P-51, it will weigh a lot more and it's heavy armament makes it perfect to hunt bigger targets and do ground attack missions. It will be effective against fighters, but most of them will be able to out-turn it. It really depends on the weight and engine power to see if it is limited to BnZ, or if it can perform regular energy fighting as well.

guys what if ace combat 7 comes out and controls worse than project wingman

>>186224263
guys what if random fucktards insist on making predictions about a game that isn't even out yet

>>186224348
>ask a question
>DON'T MAKE PREDICTIONS REEEEE
are you retarded?

>>186224263
how exactly? there's not a single mainline AC out there with shitty controls

>>186224263
pw controls seems pretty good to me (xbone controller)

>>186224409
I mean in comparison, the ps2 games had some stiff controls when it came to looking around. It feels smooth as fuck to look around and fly in PW

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>>186224263
those "what ifs" questions are really irritating

just wait for the demo

>>186224263

I mean, none of the AC games so far have had bad controls.
PW has pretty okay controls on my ps3 controller.

I guess the only issue I could see was if AC7 ended up with bad joystick support on pc, which could happen.
That'd suck a bit.

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>>186224568
>the ps2 games had some stiff controls

>>186224768
>reading comprehension
I said when it came to looking around

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>>186224841
i know, they were fine

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>>186189762
>1) at any point does the carrier reload mechanic come back?
>>186189895
>It doesn't, unfortunately.
Shit, I just got all S ranks on AC4 hard last night and was planning to take a break to start AC5, I'm gonna miss that mechanic

>>186219953
Stop fuckin stalling all the time, dammit

>>186094308
hey reddit

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>AC2 is too hard for Gigi

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vz24aIsdfg

>>186230387
i love when /aceg/ does music

>>186231375
???

>>186231427
??????

>>186231529
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>186231427
>>186231529
>>186231598
<<Cut the chatter>>

>>186231825
<< You get that voice from your mama's side of the family? >>

>>186231825
<<This is Razgriz 3, roger that!>>

>>186231825
>>186230387
Requesting more flight music like this and "face of the coin"

>>186232174
Might be unrelated, but to me this works well when thinking about soaring over the countryside at sunset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDBbaGCCIhk

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>>186232174
Not at all like that, but I fell asleep while listening to this last night and I dreamt that I was flying an F-117 over oil rigs at dusk like in Lifeline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41AbR5OuIE8

>>186232419

>miami nights
Awww yis.

>>186232174

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61I-jZZJWpA
This one always says 'flying' to me.

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>>186233986
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61I-jZZJWpA
nice, that bit at 1:30 is pure top gun

>>186233146
i like this. could easily fit in on the ac3 ost.

posting more flightworthy liquid dnb and stuff i think i heard from aceg threads a few weeks back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egd1cC5hH7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egd1cC5hH7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uinf-xyTY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSU5vuLVr6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGLMBfwsM2k

>>186233146

For some reason this track reminds me of Phantasy Star Online episode 2.
I cant quite pin my finger on which bit of the OST it's taking me back to, but it really does.

I got a thrustmaster for ACI and other things and I'm absolutely terrible with it. What do?

>>186235960

Step 1:
Buy aviators
Step 2:
Put Danger Zone on repeat
Step 3:
Practice like a madman.

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>>186232174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OSMqSPmfVA

Is the ACI campaign worth the $20?

>>186236082
Well I already have two pairs of aviators, and a spotify account, so life is good.

>>186237025
Not really.

>>186237025
It's the closest you'll ever get to a remaster of the PS2 levels.

/aceg/ please rate my 6 point plan.
1. Finish uni.
2. Become a politician
3. Become a senior minister
4. Become Minister of Defense
5. Buy some Gripens
6. Get to fly in a Gripen

How do we even know the f-117 actually exists?
Have you ever seen one?

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>>186215839
>>186217713

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https://youtu.be/Gehi-zyp7BQ

New shit yo, who /CnC Zero Hour/ here?

>>186239735
"THEY CANNOT DESTROY CHINAAA"
Gib texture buddy

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>>186240036
yeah sure, I just lifted it from some dude on reddit.

Shit I need to credit him in the video, one sec.

>>186240324
Thanks bro

>>186240591
Ye, check the description for a link to the full texture pack. There's some other cool shit in there.

Holy shit A-10 is way too OP in Air Combat

Fuck that ravine mission though

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>>186239196
it's likely we'll never find out.

>>186238972

Well at some point you'll probably have to do that whole 'lern how 2 plen' part.

>>186239735
So, thread opinion, want more of these fun little vids? Making the title cards is fun. Frustratingly, I'm kinda stuck with ACX as far as texture replacement goes, because I don't know how to do it on anything but PPSSPP.

>>186241981
I figure I could pull the "I'm Minister of Defense let me sit in the backseat" card and skip the learning to fly part.

>>186241981
He didn't say how long he'd fly his Gripen.

He could fly for ten seconds and then crash horribly.

>>186243519
and what a way to go that would be

>>186243519

That's what Im afraid of - I dont want to see a buddy get so close to his dreams and have them cut short.

>>186243401
>sitting in the backseat
Ah that's more reasonable.
I mean, that said, you could just pull "Im the minister of defence, if Im going to fund the new combat pilot courses i feel like I should understand them completely. To do that I must complete them myself."

Lewdness coming through
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1501370132730.webm

>>186243741
>Minister of Defense conducted entire political career in the hopes of flying a jet fighter, 5TB harddrive found iin his home with pictures of the jets.

>>186243964

>politicians from around the world come forward to admit that they only got into politics in order to sit in planes, tanks, or aircraft carriers

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>>186243964
>only 5TB

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>>186243939
this is a blue board anon

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Hi

>>186245693
So how about those Gripen's

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>>186245693
cute

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>>186245931
You'll get a Tornado and you'll like it

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>>186245693

>>186246497
But BR's are getting Gripen E's.

Reminder that more of the Gripen's parts and major systems are made in the US and UK than swedistan.

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>>186250894
This is true. The reason the Gripen is so cheap is because it's literally cobbled together from components of other planes (including commercial planes) whenever possible to reduce costs, even at the expense of performance.

What are the UGBL and GPB weapons on the F-15E, and how many of each can the Mudhen carry IRL?

>>186251580
Can't remember, I think Val knows though

>mfw autism run of ACX
10 AMRAAMs, two Sidewinders, 412 rounds of cannon ammo, and space for two drop tanks to get you to the fight? Don't mind if I do.

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>>186253107
>forgot pic

I think this is the right place to ask, what kind of PC do I need to run ace combat zero? I have a shitty laprop

>>186255543
Pretty sunset and hangar. Would look cooler with a plane parked in it.

>>186251580
UGBL are probably Mk84s, of which the Mudhen IRL can comfortably carry 5, with a possible maximum of 7 but I've never seen a picture of that being done operationally.

GPB are probably some sort of smaller LGB like a GBU-12 or other PGM like a GBU-38. If they're GBU-10s, the Mudhen can carry 5, GBU-12s to a maximum of 9, and GBU-38s to a maximum of 7.

>>186256253
Not him but what about the cluster bombs?

><<Altitude is too low, pull up!>>

>>186254529
PS2 emulation is pretty demanding IIRC. But it never hurts to try, it's gottem better over the years.

There's a guide in the OP

Is there something I'm missing in ACX, or is there no free camera option? I can't look around while in the cockpit.

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I just wonder what Belka is going to get up to in 7, since its always Belka and the gray men are still around at the end of 5

>>186263303
The PSP doesn't have two analogs and the Dpad is mapped to rudder. What you have to do is go into autopilot, then the stick will let you look around

Basically just use triangle

>>186263954
Oh nice, looking to get screencaps is all. I'll just turn off the HUD then.

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That dude from before whipped up another CnC skin if anyone wants it!

>>186263373
Sneakily reclaiming South Belka and the Great Lakes while Osea is distracted.

>>186263373
Stealing and equipping the Arsenal Bird with even MORE drones!

>>186263373
See >>186217713

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>>186210151
You can just move the gun down to where the gun on an actual Tomcat is located.