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Don't bully small games again like in previous thread edition

Previous attempt at a thread: >>185442858
>DCS: Do not buy mirage and newer modules from steam, because you can't use them in stand-alone.<

>TeamSpeak
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SimulationGamesGeneral

>BMS U3 Setup and stuff
https://mega.nz/#F!vxd2ia5Z!Dis_Nz7NlgzXqscADeUDew

>Repository of various aviation related material
https://mega.nz/#F!vxd2ia5Z!Dis_Nz7NlgzXqscADeUDew

>Planes pastebin
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Tanks pastebin
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX

>Boat/Submarine pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Link to this OP text
https://pastebin.com/dCNrq5CU

>Example of welcome games
>Flight Sims
Falcon BMS, DCS: World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
>Driving Games
Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, Euro Truck Sim, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, DiRT Rally, OMSI 2
>Ground Sims
SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Graviteam Tactics, Squad
>Submarine Sims
Silent Hunter, Ship Simulator, Cold Waters, Dangerous Waters
>Misc Sims
Command: X, Swat 4

>Example of non-welcome games
Ácé Cómbát, Wár Thúndér, Wórld óf _____, Ármá 1-3, Thé Síms, Sím Cíty, Góát Símúlátór

>Extra attention grabbing search terms
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/ /cwg/
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>>186049389
Poor guy probably thought he was doing a really smart maneuver that the F5 couldn't keep up with.
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Speaking of the F-5.
When I'm locked onto a guy and everything says I'm in range but the droning doesn't turn into a beeping, will the sidewinder seek what I'm locked onto?
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Third for wtf(I did it even waaay slower vertical speed and still same(Weight is 1300kg)
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>>186050638
>100 kg
>Still same
Did they break it again?
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>Squad (not a sim) allowed but not ArmA
really makes you think
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>>186050609
no
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>OP saved my image and used it for neo-thread
I'm very flattered, thank you anon-kun
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>>186050956
Imagine adding arma would make /simg/ like this but even worse
History would repeat itself
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>>186051050
Your efforts don't go unnoticed, Sabowman
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>>186051239
I hate how some ragtag bunch of cancerous faggots ruined ArmA for everyone, it's un-fucking fair...
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>>186051365
what was he doing?
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>>186051365
delet this
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>>186052397
Fighting me, I was going noticeably faster so he was just trying to go slow for a would-be easy shot on me once I passed
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>>186051239
can we merge with Ace Combat?
or perhaps Senran Kagura?
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You know the drill
no replying to bait
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MERGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>186052498
Oh, so he was going for a slow energy-battle that he thought you would lose because the Mig bleeds speed at <400 KMH.
Was his problem that he did it too soon to let you land a shot?
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>>186053469
>Enfield 1-1, merged
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>>186053571
He lost because a) he decided to fly straight instead of keeping his turn going, and b) I got lucky

iirc he spent his missiles anyway so if I didn't land the shot I would have went emergency afterburner and just ran away
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>>186052496
Were those ROCKETS?
Curious, has anyone tried using rocket pods in dogfights before? Because that looks fun as fuck.
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>>186053823
not even my webm but no nigga, it was the migs flares
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>>186051028
Very confusing.
What does the in-range sign on the right of the radar screen mean by in-range if not weapon range?
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>>186053469
i'd be okay with merging with anime titties
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>>186054668
Oh.
Oh.
that killed my hope, there.
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>>186052203
Same here
I would love 100% to have arma 3 here, because I'm armafag myself, but I don't want /simg/ ruined either.
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>>186056006
I don't like this argument very much for a number of reasons.

>I would want Squad here, but I don't want /simg/ ruined either.
>I would want Arma here, but I don't want /simg/ ruined either
>I would want SAM Simulator here, but I don't want to /simg/ ruined either
>I would want Graviteam tactics here, but I don't want /simg/ ruined either
>I would want Farming Simulator here, but I don't want /simg/ ruined either

And it goes on and on and on until we're struggling to keep the thread bumped on a Sunday night.
Is that really a good future for us?
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>>186056568
Maybe /a3g/ should have its own thread again then?

Arma should generate enough traffic to sustain a thread.
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>>186056703
That'd be great. Why did the thread stop, anyway? Were they being elitist pricks who wouldn't accept OFP or earlier Arma games?
I don't visit armag but I knew it was a thing here for a while.
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>>186056568
>Squad
>Sam simulator
>Graviteam
>Farming simulator
All are welcome
Thing is with arma, is that /a3g/ was >>186051239
even worse
I for sure know that trolls are still here waiting until we activate their almonds with
>ARMA Allowed
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>>186056819
>I for sure know that trolls are still here waiting until we activate their almonds
See, this is the thing I don't get; we don't know if this really rings true or not. Alot has changed over the years since and people will move on and grow up, I think there is way too much of a stigma against the game because of some bad apples from years back. times change.

Either way though it's whatever, personally I think nothing would really change if was allowed. I mean...why isn't there a dedicated /a3g/ general since then? It's because nobody cares for it anymore.
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>>186057687
Because mods started banning /a3g/ threads, they were shitposting that terrible
Anyway, everytime someone mentions anime images and shitposting appears
We can try adding it for one thread tho.
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Cold war is literally the only thing DCS has going for it

I'm even actually hyped for the F-4 and Mig-19
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>>186055107
Why don't you get some aerial rocket kills yourself?
Don't let your memes be dreams.
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>>186058239
Theoretically, it can be done.
I should try it with something really good at pop-ups like the 21, but I'm not sure how extra rocket pods would affect performance.
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>>186058392
It has been done and webms were posted. And there were air2air rocket pods irl.
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>>186058991
The F-86D relied on a rocket tray as its only weapon. I know it was to intercept bombers but still.
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>>186058991
>there were air2air rocket pods irl
I didn't know that. Were they just replaced with AA missiles?
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>>186059163
Yup. It was a pretty awful idea to begin with, even if the only target would have been bombers.

>While the drone flew over Castaic, the first crew lined up and fired 42 rockets, completely missing their target. The second interceptor moved into position and unleashed another salvo of 42, the rockets passing just beneath the bright red drone, a few glancing off the fuselage underside, but none detonating.[1] Close to the town of Newhall the pair of jets made a second pass, launching a total of 64 rockets; again none found the mark. The two Scorpion crews adjusted their intervalometer settings and, as the wayward drone headed northeast toward Palmdale, each fired a last salvo of 30 at the target with no hits, dispensing their last rockets. In all, the Air Force element fired 208 rockets and were unable to shoot the Hellcat down.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale
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>>186059615
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale
Jesus christ. Its an actual battle? And they were unable to shoot it down too? What the fuck man.
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>>186059615
Needs a DAKKA air guard edit.
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>>186059615
Why is it, after Korea, the west decided unanimously to take guns off of their fighters?
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>>186053823
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>>186060157
"Missiles are the future"
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>>186059163
>>186060157
In the early '50s, the US air force was focused around the interception of incoming tight Soviet strategic bomber formations, to the exclusion of literally everything else. The logic was that since the speed of aircraft was increasing, you needed a weapon that could take down a Tu-95 in one hit, and a cannon that large would be extremely impractical to mount on an aircraft. Thus, lining up on a run, and spamming dozens of rockets at a formation from range was the chosen solution. It's this line of thinking that led to retarded shit like the AIR-2, incidentally. Later on, as guidance technology improved, the unguided pods were replaced by Falcons and Sidewinders.
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>>186060667
This.
Warfare changed this much, same with tanks, is who can hit first and from the longest distance.
Now planes are built to improve its stealth, and have to compensate with software the maneuverability just to be decent enough.
So, the scenarios when a plane is going to be able to use the "gun" become pretty null.
Take tonks for example, they also launch missiles and have way more range than regular rounds, detection and fire range goes up to 12km with the new gen of missiles, compared to the 3 ish km of a sabot.
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Anybody play Enemy Engaged? I'm having difficulties trying to lock onto enemies at distances.

>>186060667
I believe there's a school of thought that suggests that at some point ECM and/or CIWS technology will reach a level where missiles become impractical and guns will make a comeback.
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>>186063054
I just had a dogfight in a multiplayer lobby. Me and a buddy in F-15s and we were fighting a pair of Su or MiG series aircraft. The engagement lasted 3-4 minutes, none of us were able to get our missiles off, even when we were several miles away, and we just fought it out with guns. I think we might almost be there, one or two more generations of aircraft.
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>>186048809
I would happily accept the addition of SSN-21 - that game soaked up many hours I should have spent studying back in Year 10 but ID'ing sonar contacts on the narrowband with the signatures in the booklet made it totally worth it.
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>>186048809
>>186066812
If game is not in the list, it doesn't mean it's not accepted
Anyway, gonna add in another thread.
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>>186059756
Well to be fair the target was much smaller than anything the interceptor was designed to attack and thier fire control system failed.
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>>186056809
They shat up /vg/ so hard the mods deleted their threads and stopped them making new ones
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taking a break for DCS right now (till something new or merge) and been doing civi stuff in XP11 it's super comfy. Bought to buy a legit copy of it now.
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>mfw waiting for clod 5.0
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>>186070170
I hear you brother
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>tfw no HRTF for DCS

I WANT FULL UND TOTAL IMMERSION REEEE
fuck creative
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ded?
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>>186075128
Completely.
So feel free to fuck off.
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Are there any good groups/clans to join to learn a bit more and have fun together? All I saw where groups where you had to fill out a real application etc. with a shedule. Just dont know if that for me. Im the dude that asked for a beginner set up a few threads back btw. Just saving up atm and watching tutorials.
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>>186079041
what about simg OPS WHEN?
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>>186079041
Just sit in the TeamSpeak or Discord and just ask if anyone wants to play
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>>186050638
They just broke this shit.
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>>186068942
Was it worth it?
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>>186079041
.Schedule sucks, I feel ya
Do like >>186079484 says
Sure you can learn bird little bit more, check twitch, and see if any streamers are open for viewers to join
Anyway
Discord is confidential for some reason, but you can get it if you ask someone in teamspeak I think
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If I don't buy the new Kuznetsov model , will I still be able to use it in multiplayer servers whose owners have it and I can I refuel and rearm on it?
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>>186083889
in all likelihood you won't be able to join servers using it.

See: WW2 assets
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>>186083889
Your rope will have 50% weakness modifier
You will get only rope instead of 4
Ramp will be a bit lower for you
And last of all, anyone who has the kuznetsov will be able to steal your carrier su-33 slot
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>>186083742
>>186079484
>>186079268
thanks!
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What if Wags doesn't like FLIR and shut down ground texture mods because of this?
Fucking better FLIR fucking when
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can't fucking wait
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>>186092491
what a dumb picture
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>>186094069
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>>186095151
ok where can i find these power fantasies?
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>>186094069
>murca getting a vietnamese dick
A perfect picture
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>>186095969
I think thats a NorK MiG
>>186095484
google
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>>186096516
>F-104
Reee
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>>186097683
Sorry F-4
I mixed up that image with this one files along with other ones
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How many MiG-29's does NK have
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>>186098237
Enough.
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>>186098237
Around 30 monkey models I think?
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>>186098237
90+ IIRC
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>>186098401
Nah, it's not the Nork aircraft that are a threat, it's the overwhelming surface to air threat that covers more or less the entire country.
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fresh off the presses. more on the way, expect them slowly though
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>>186098725
>game pipper
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>>186098889
>Kill self
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>>186099172
>game pipper
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>>186100003
Not him but what do you mean?
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>>186100154
>pip gamer
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>>186098237

http://spioenkop.blogspot.be/2014/02/the-kpaf-investigated-north-koreas-mig.html
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>>186100154
He's complaining that I don't have the MiG-21's "realistic IR pipper" setting or whatever its called, turned on. Honestly I don't care, I just have some nice fightin' footage to share

though not high quality. Anyone help? I'm rather new to the webm scene
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>>186104287
Are you using 'webm for retards' program?
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>>186104452
Not him but
https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter
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>>186104287
>52 seconds long
anything above 20 seconds generally looks like shit familia
also give Xmedia Recode a shot
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>>186104452
>>186104529
https://github.com/Cephel/4chan-webm-maker
This one is what I'm using. Not sure what differences are
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>>186104452
>>186104735
This needs AviSynth too tho. But it's continuation of old Webm for Retards(Currently Webm for Bakas) which is pic related. gonna show the one I linked in a sec
>>186104529
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>>186104816
The one I linked has some neat stuff and is still light and simple
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>>186105084
And advanced tab
I like that trimming shows frame you have selected with slider so you can precisely trim
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>>186105084
Hello Elliot
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>>186105301
Hi, it's alias anyway, no point to delete it
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I just assumed everyone just uses FFMPEG in Terminal
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comfy webms inbound
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>>186105423
I did, but I found that webm for bakas, and later webm for retards, and can't go back to terminal since
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>>186105301
more like IDIOT aimirite? XD
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>>186105753
hnnnng
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>>186104287
>>though not high quality. Anyone help? I'm rather new to the webm scene
Your webm is about as good as it gets for that length, try making them *much* shorter and as close to 3MB as possible by messing around with different bitrates,
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>>186106246
this 100%
Wish jackie 4chan added VP9 support, I think it makes it better for same size. Heck, I wish we could use atleast 4mb
Russians are happy to be able to post 40mb webm/mp4 in their chan
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>>186104701
Yeah, I've noticed that about the time.

What I like about this one is that it does damn near everything for you right away. literally asks for resolution, start time and run time and then you wait.

At least with this one you can sort of see whats going on, might have been ok with bumping up resolution here.
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>>186106642
You should try
>>186104529
It's on steroids
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Why the fuck do Indians keep crashing their aircraft
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>>186107073
They poo in the loo, so sometimes they can't control themselves to crash and shit on ground
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>>186105985
>Viggen
Ugly as fuck
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>>186104287
Retrying this one, you can see where I pull hard and he drops out, decided the extra 30 seconds where he slowly falls aren't worth it
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>>186107587
honestly don't think it's interesting at all
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>>186107409
Off yourself
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>>186107790
but it felt good fucko

I wanted that to happen and it happened
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my god magz is utter crap at dcs
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10
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>>186111249
wow wow this is too lewd dear leader
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>>186111249
>challenge world to war
>parade soldiers with ppsh-40's
??
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>>186111423
checkmate yancuck
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>>186108243
he's just terrible
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>>186111945
But the M1 is the best battle rifle ever made. The PPSh is trash.
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woah
So this is the power of the american army..
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>>186111423
It's a commemorative parade you dumb nigger
equipment and uniforms and weapons from the Korean war in the 50's are paraded
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>>186112276
I know you're just shitposting but sergeants carried those. Should be a pontoon spear instead I think though.
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>>186112054
>The PPSh is trash
Say it to the aryans.
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Viva DPRK!
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>>186112276
Wow.
Isn't that lucerne?
Kek
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>>186115346
>no hammer head
It's just a halberd dude.
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What are good future spaceship war simulator where I can drive my own spaceship around and fight
Sorry for autism phrasing
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>>186115847
Elite Dangerous
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Will F-14 RIO be the most comfy thing in DCS?
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>>186119318
Nah F-4 WSO will be
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Why is grass/dirt in DCS akin to quicksand? If you get even one landing gear off of the pavement, even onto something like gravel or hard dirt, you're stuck. Half of the aircraft in this game were meant to be taken off from grass/unkept airstrips, but can't escape having one gear off the taxiway with full afterburner and no load.
Why?
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>>186120904
Why do you explode when you nick a tree in 2.1?

DCS is shit that's why
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first for YS flight simulator

the true patricians sim
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>>186114534
did they just copy and make a shittier version of the Moscow subway?
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How badly do you want the F-14D?
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>>186122414
Wow
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>>186119318
You bet it will be.
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>>186122414
Is it happening?
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>>186121323
I tried this thing, but the few planes I tried do weird shit, they tend to pitch down when on level flight. Is there a way to mod cockpits in?
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>NK has nearly 900 military aircraft
Aren't those 40 MiG-29's already overkill enough to cover all of their tiny ass airspace
How will they even utilize all these airplanes if a war happens
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I want gripen
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>>186125083
You can't have too many turkeys to shoot down.
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Are we getting a Mig-25 or a Mig-29?
Just realistically, they wouldn't let them make the latest SU-27 variant, but maybe the 80's variant?
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>>186127587
Don't we already have the MiG-29?
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>>186127648
We have something called the Mig-29, but we don't *really* have it.
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anyone want to play some PR? i'm a classic boy from .7 days
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>>186120904
DCS is shit and not a sim
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Any Enemy Engaged players here?
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Why hasn't ED bothered to do a FC3-tier F-16?
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>>186134194
Because WW2
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Such is life at /simg/.
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>>186136931
*long sigh of despair*
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>>186127587
No. We will never get either of those. MiG-29 and MiG-25 are still used and therefore an absolute no-go for module status.

I think the MiG-23 has a decent chance though. I honestly believe its the best chance at a new russian fighter. A MiG-23 and MiG-27 would make me happy for a very long time in DCS.

I also have a lot of cool MiG-23 pictures so ima dump some.
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>>186125091
The Norwegian airforce roundel is so ugly.
It looks like a corporate airliner logo.
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>>186140557
Who operates the MiG-25 still? I checked wikipedia and only see Algeria having any sizeable number left.
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>>186141686
I'm pretty sure Russia still flies the recon variant
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The Charlie I in the 1968 Russian campaign is fucking fun and satisfying
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>>186134376
Why does ED bother to release WW2 fighters when IL2 exists and it's fairly cemented that people want to play 80's era fighters in DCS?
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>>186141686
From my history knowledge, not a lot of countries adopted the MiG-23 because they still had plenty of working MiG-21's when the Flogger became a new thing. Bloc countries weren't exactly known for being rich.
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>>186144792
To be fair, i have both DCS WW2 fighters and every IL2 games. Il2 may be cheaper but damn, DCS planes feels WAY better as far as simulation goes.
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>>186144792
Good luck getting good info on 80's fighters.
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>>186144792
So you can have meme fights
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Trying to land random shit on the Kuzy.
MiG-29 being SFM just doesn't fucking slow down so I don't think its possible.

Trying with SU-27 now.
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>>186147654
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>>186148104
>those sparks

gaudy as fuck
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>>186148104
so fucking close. I have an idea tho
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>>186148412
I would suggest a tailhook.
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>>186148475
no need tovarish.

just increase throttle so you don't slide off the back)))))))))))))))
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>>186148104
>>186147654
Try doing a complete 180 as you land by hitting the AFT and the left/right wheel brake. Use it to slow down.
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ok last one. This is as good as I can probably do it.
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>>186144792
I guess they feel beholden to the backers of that DCS WWII kickstarter that fell through

Meanwhile:
>dedicated servers never
>2.5 merge never
>fixed missiles never
>fixed spotting never
>full fidelity slavshit never

Playing DCS is suffering
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>>186148924
>>186149187
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>>186150109
This is solid one
I suppose taking off isn't a issue?
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I'm really conflicted about DCS. The developers are objectively terrible, it's a very good study sim but a pretty shitty game and I really, really wish it would become good

That being said even in its current state it has its moments

for example, dunking on F-15 babbys
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>>186148104
>INS Vikramaditya.webm
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>>186150550
Nope, all though I'm with no weapons and very low fuel
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>>186151117
Does it mean if you master it, you can land very low on everything, re-arm and go as full?
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>>186150602
I think that's the tradeoff.

We either get AAA trash where everything is an FC3 plane (but with even less interaction) with no in-depth fidelity modules like the beautiful F5, or we get something like BMS where there is one really, really, really well-designed plane and everything else is so lackluster that they're worth flying.

I hate ED for how obstructive, unclear, and directionless they seem despite being such a small developer (there are development teams five times their size that can at least answer questions directly that the community asks instead of giving confucian non-answers), but I think they've tried to merge the two as best as they can.

I just don't like it. I wish they would have decided, long ago, if DCS world was going to be a sim filled with lots and lots of FC3-like planes, or a sim with a few A-10C-like modules. Maybe they should have just split the FC3 part out into its own game and given us hundreds of low-tech planes like the old Janes games used to have.
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>>186151391
No, because you have to use some thrust to stop you from just sliding backwards off the back of the ship, so you wouldn't be able to shut down.

Slamming breaks doesn't keep you in place.
Maybe when the kuzy update hites
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>>186152663
>Maybe when the kuzy update hites
Maybe someday
>kuzy
Btw it's Кyзя(Kuzya) not Kuzy
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>>186147654
>>186148104
>>186148412
>>186148924
>>186150109
sorry harmo but... Carrier landings are for /top aces/ only

;^)
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>>186154579
So is this Graviteam or the tank sim based on its engine?
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>>186150109
I just reminded that Su-27 has parachute
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>>186154598
Now do a P-51.
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>>186154598
but can the /top ace/ land the MiG-29?

>>186154784
Same, >>186154598 this made me wonder why the hell i never popped it
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Guess the truck
You're not slav/slavaboo if you don't know this one
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>>186154710
Graviteam tactics Shield of the prophet, same stuff from your webm
nice webm btw, the lighting looks slightly better in your webm though, are you enabling any special settings? I have everything maxed out and don't get that kind of lighting in mine
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>>186154598
>/top aces/
>parachute
Stop larping as one of /top aces/
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>>186141248
I like it, it reminds me of the civil defense logo.
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>>186154598
"""""""""""""""""SIMULATOR"""""""""""""""""
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>>186154973
Nothing special, also I'd say yours are better. I have ffmpeg but its literally been years since I made that webm and have since forgotten how to make more.
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>>186154598
You can land A-10's and SU-25's on carriers in ArmA 3 too, so this webm shows that DCS is on the same level of a sim as ArmA 3.
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>>186119318
No, DCS: Boom Operator will be the most comfy module.
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Hey /simg/. I haven't played a real sim before and I'm thinking of trying one out if I have a decent chunk of spare time in the next few weeks. What's a good one to start with, if I'm interested in Cold War--modern fighters? DCS seems to be the name I see the most, but then again it also seems to get the most shit talked about it. Advise me.
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>>186121629
Try to compare with the dump they call subway in New York.
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In DCS FC3, are the Mig-29 and the SU-27 just palette swapped planes or do they actually function differently?
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>>186157790
DCS is the name you see the most which is why it gets the most shit talked about.

You basically have a couple of choices.

-Falcon BMS, which is great if you just want to fly a Falcon.
-DCS, which lets you fly all sorts of planes with varying levels of accuracy.

Pick your poison, because there really aren't any better options.
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Hey, I know the person who makes the Clear HUD mod for the Mig-29 browses here, just wanted to say "Thank you".
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>>186158798
MiG-29 has TWS (2 targets) and can launch ARH missiles.
Su-27 has datalink, ECM pods, more fuel, and more hardpoints.
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>>186049389
positively shredded
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F-5 is comfiest plane
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>Flying MiG-29
>Come back after sortie
>Gear won't go down
>Mash key to lower gear
>Mash button
>Nothing is lowering gear
>Try restarting the cockpit power
>Nope
>Flaps work just fine.
What happened? Why won't my gear go down?
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>>186161874
It's by far my favorite plane to fly. Everything about it just feels nice.
Killer shot btw, I didn't know Aim-9P's were all aspect.
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>>186161993
The AIM-9P isn't, the AIM-9P5 is so make sure you take those

The P5 is almost as good as the AIM-9M
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>>186158798
You bout to get the pill on the differences

>Su-27
+really good radar
+really good SA because of the HDD showing target speed, heading, altitude
+data link
+lots of fuel + missiles
+PFM
+will beat anything in a turn fight and feels really good doing so

-At high fuel and weapons load it really flies like a fat piece of shit which makes it hard to defeat missiles (i always burn down to at least 5-6k fuel before trying to fight or else you're dead
-flies like a piece of shit at high altitude (I might be doing it wrong but if i get launched on at high alts I can't defeat missiles for shit)
-limited to only SARH
-Can't pull more than 7g's until you hit like 40% fuel and half of your missiles are gone
-annoying amounts of trim required. You run out of nose down trim authority when going 1000km/h+ and below 3k altitude
-have to take pods for ECM which take away two R-73's
>MiG-29
+amazing acceleration and climb rate because of its thrust to weight, you never get caught going slow because based RD-33 engines
+light and nimble at all fuel and weapons loads (historically had a greater than 1 T/W ratio even with full weapons and fuel load
+can crank them really hard 9g turns when you really need to dodge that amraam
+can take all the weapons the SU-27 can, but can also take the R-77 which is the only active russian missile (sucks at any range above 15km but is really good within that)
+MiG-29S has built in ECM

-less weapons and fuel overall, all though you get way more out of your fuel if that makes sense. Like, when you burn you are going to go fast as fuck and you can stay up forever if you are smart and watch the fuel gauge. It will tell you how far you can fly on current power setting
-Honestly terrible radar when compared to Su-27. You'll only be able to lock fighter sized targets at around 45km, which is sometimes already within first pole
-no HDD which really hinders your SA

cont next post
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>>186162437

Basically in a nut shell:

I prefer the flight characteristics of the MiG-29 because I live for F A S T. Being able to pull 9G's when you really need it all while going super fucking fast makes me feel like I can beat anyone 1 on 1 in a BVR fight flying the Fulcrum. I never get caught going slow or feel like I'm out of energy, regardless of fuel, weapons status, or altitude.

At the same time, you sacrifice not having an amazing radar and HDD display which in the Flanker helps you keep the picture when there is a lot going on. Being able to detect people way farther than the engagement ranges is nice, because in the MiG you literally can be within their firing range and still not have a lock. If the Su-27 radar and HDD was on the MiG-29, i would literally never fly the Su-27 2bh. Su-27 is better for really congested airspaces, but if I'm getting launched at, put me in the Fulcrum every time.

That's why the F-15 is so fucking god like. It has the radar and SA of the Su-27, combined with the meme-tier T/W and acceleration of the MiG-29, combined with the best missiles and RWR. Can't beat that shit.

>>186159620
you're welcome. People seem to be enjoying that mod so I'm glad.
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>>186162437
>>186162808
Very helpful, thanks.
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good i like thx men good quick rundown
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I have a question about the F5.
Can the arrestor hook be used to land on a carrier?
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>>186122041
What convergence?
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>>186161874
>>186161993
I was on the fence about my next plen but I think Tiger wins
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what did they mean by this
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>>186165787
>>186165101
>any year
>falling for the vtol meme
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Sometimes I kind of feel like I'm getting the hang of this

Also checkout the quality DCS netcode on display halfway through this webm
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>>186171551
>F-5

more like OP-5
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>>186160159
Ecm pods are a meme they dont matter
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>>186171685
A few seconds later I G-LOCed and crashed into a ridge trying to line up guns on that F-15 that missed me with three AIM-7s

I was this fucking close
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>>186154943
Zil-130 ?
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Just a question on control setups - does anyone have experience with using a mouse + joystick combination for flight sims?

I'm thinking that the mouse could be used left handed, binding the scroll wheel as the throttle and using it to look around - sort of a ghetto HOTAS setup where your throttle is also a free-look control. Any thoughts?
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>>186175761
I suppose that would work well. Mouse is usually to click shit, while free look is taken over by headtracker
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>>186176685
Just getting started with flight sims so not getting too involved into head-tracking just yet; was thinking about using the mouse free-look (maybe toggle free-look) to compensate for the time being.
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>>186163478
400m
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Absolute noob coming through. How does the HUD/crosshair gets projected onto the glass?
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>>186179070
Mirror magic.
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Why does no sim has this thing. reee
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>>186180545
>flying target drone
no wonder
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>>186162808
>>186162437
>>186162834

tldr

>That's why the F-15 is so fucking god like. It has the radar and SA of the Su-27, combined with the meme-tier T/W and acceleration of the MiG-29, combined with the best missiles and RWR. Can't beat that shit.

dont fly slav trash
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If you dislike the F15, just wait until the F18. It dumpsters the F15 in every single aspect, but especially if you merge, it completely destroys it, it's the worst possible matchup for an F15. HMCS capable turn RADIUS fighter that can sustain and control an absolutely absurd AOA. Even if you try to boom and zoom you'll just end up with an AIM9X in your tailpipe.

Their BVR capability are a lot more similar though, so the matchup will be more even there, but I suspect a fully modelled radar allows for some more indepth filtering or whatever and should perform better than the simple FC3 radar when used by a skilled operator.

Not that I really condone this eSports-lite, but the days of the F15 as the king of DCS are numbered.
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>>186163275
nope
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>>186183641
But why would I get an F-18 when the F-14 can outrun and outrange it?
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>>186188967
Implying you're not an autismo who can never find someone to play with.
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>>186189392
what?
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>>186175761
I used to do that. Mouse in right hand (wasn't ambidextrous), joystick in left hand (was ambidextrous). A button to switch between mouse look and cockpit clicking. Scroll wheel for zooming.

Used that until I got T.16000 HOTAS and a Delanclip head tracking. Worked OK. Perfect in Il-2 1946 because you can bind throttle to the scroll wheel. OK in DCS (flew most in DCS). In BMS it works but you need move the mouse to the center of the screen and use a (possibly secrit?) button to toggle mouse look. Then the middle of the screen does the clicking. My problem with BMS was that mouse look was very laggy. Not crisp and smooth at all.

I really wish all flight sims had a mode like mouse look except there is also an FPS-like crosshair in the middle of the screen to play with buttons. No need to switch between modes that way.
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>>186157790
If
Mig-21/Mig-15
F-86/F-5
AJS-37 Viggen
is your jam
You're lucky because those are full fidelity
Not sure if you're interested in full fidelity or not, but if you're
M-2000C french jet is here.

F/A-18C
F-14
AV-8B
Are going to be soon™

And there is arcade module called flaming cliffs 3
It includes
> F-15C, A-10A, Su-27, Su-33, MiG-29A, MiG-29S, Su-25
They're simplier, cockpit is not clickable, and that makes it $25 on sale, $50 normally
I would suggest you to wait for sale so you can get double modules for same price. Just my few cents.
If anyone has something to add, please do.
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>>186161909
Maybe you were at high speed? Idk about mig, but I can't lower my gear in su-27 if speed too high or smth
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>>186191816
Thanks. Yeah I was planning on waiting for sales before buying any of the modules; I may just try the base simulator first.
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What should my touch down speed be in the Mirage? I know just fly AOA, but evertime I do that I nearly destroy the plane, the manual also says to not flare, but if I don't then it rips the entire undercarriage.
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>>186182047
It may be trash, but it's fun
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>>186192915
If you fly the AoA with the right glide slope, you should have the right speed. webm a landing for us?
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>>186171551
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>>186191816
Are the ww2 models full fidelity? Cant deceide between BMS and IL-2 or DCS with more modules. Just tested BMS and DCS and dcs felt a bit better.
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>>186194147
If you want to learn the planes (WW2) 100%, DCS.
If you want to go and dogfight online and not worry as much, IL-2.
Yeah they are full fidelity btw.
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>>186194147
They are "Full fidelity" as they are clicky and have kind of ok FMs, but the DMs will make you want to refund it. So if you want WW2 go for IL-2, if you want autism and fun get BMS.
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>BMS

ON RAILS FM
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>>186194475
Dm are nowhere near finished tho. So that's to be expected.
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>>186194720
>release a module
>forget the damage models
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>>186194147
>DCS WW2
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>>186175193
Here take IL-2 for good answer
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>>186171551
ETS UNFEIR REMOV F-5
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>>186195002
>what is early acces
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>>186196072
>what is early access
a cash grab and getting free testers?
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>>186195284
Thanks comrade.
Thanks Spintires
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>>186196320
Maybe. The DM still isn't finished. They posted something about that a few days ago.
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>>186196432
>>release a module
>>forget the damage models
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>>186196072
>P-51 is early access

hmmmmmm
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>>186196493
thanks for keeping the thread bumped pal
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>>186196072
>The P-51, K-4, and the D-9 is Early access
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>186196592
>>186196735
I'm tired fuck
Still, they're gonna update the DMs. Fuck off now.
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>>186196824
>Waaaaaaaaa Something i said is wrong, now fuck off
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>>186180545
Uhh...you do know Razbam is currently working on this module right?
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>>186197228
My point is that new DMs are coming. Still true. :^)
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>>186114336
The real victims of Communism are those who live under it.
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>>186192707
If you're able to, sure do it. Just know, that Su-25T isn't same as full fidelity. You could get bad impression. If you buy a module through steam you can refund if you have less than 2 hours and you refund it within 1 week(or 2 I can't remember)
If you export it to stand-alone and don't play it on steam, you're getting infinity hours and still able to refund.
Just don't buy M-2000C on steam, you can't export it, so you won't be able to play sand, and etc with mirage.
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>>186156209
Which sim is that?

Also is there a good WW2 tank simulator you can play as a team?
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>>186197837
How come living there felt so good?
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>>186198358
War Thunder
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>>186197648
not for AI :))))
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>>186198945
Now i can agree with you and that's indeed sad.
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>>186197837
>>186198598
Growing up in ex-commie country was best what could've happened to me. It has it's cons but growing up in 100 people village with forests around and etc, was beautiful and fun
I regret the naive to move to big city, but soon I will go back, because I'm too much attached to the nature and fresh air, and night sky, and home-grown vegetables and potatos
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>>186196321
Extra фoтo for having played a good game
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>Be ED
>Release AI units as a module
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>>186200694
>Growing up in ex-commie country
It wasn't an ex at the moment.
>growing up in 100 people village
It wasn't a village. The lake with recreational facilities was a 30 minutes walk from the town.
>too much attached to the nature and fresh air, and night sky, and home-grown vegetables and potatos
Random guessing intensivies
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>>186201037
I wish the game would get actual updates. It's probably the best offroad game ever, AND it's full of good slavshit.
If only it got some more attention.
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Does anyone know if the Su-27: The Ultimate Argument Campaign for DCS World includes the Su-27? Or do I need to buy that separately to play it?
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>>186200694
You do know that you can still get all of that in most western countries today right? Its not something limited to commie countries, it just matters where you live.
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>>186202078
>Its not something limited to commie countries
But free housing/medicine/education is.
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>>186201469
>It wasn't a village. The lake with recreational facilities was a 30 minutes walk from the town.
How big was town? If not a secret sure
>Random guessing intensivies
Дyмaй штo хoчeшь, Я нe нoдa oбъяcнять гдe и кaк я жил. + Я cкaзaл минycы тoжe ecть, OЧEH MHOГA paбoтa нa дoмa. Hy я люблю eтo. Hy зa дeньги нa плoхo тoжe, нy eщe мoжaт жит.
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>>186202078
I own the house and land in place I lived, so it's one less wonder.
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>>186202419
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>>186202496
KYS SLAVABOO KYS KYS KYS KYS
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>>186202419
>free housing/medicine/education
That's something we no longer have in capitalist russia.
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>>186202419
No, I'm pretty sure most western countries have free healthcare and really cheap education. Remember, the US isn't the only western country.
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>>186202627
Russian is my third language not first, so try again.
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>>186183641
the hornet is slower though
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>>186202496
>How big was town? If not a secret sure
9220 pips in its heyday, according to this article.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B2_(%D0%A1%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C)
Was reduced to a shithole of a village when capitalism set in.
>Дyмaй штo хoчeшь
Chill out. I just thought you were being sarcastic. Now I see you were talkin about youself.
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russia is and was shit
slavs are and were shit
russian / slavs planes are and were shit

i could go on all day
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>>186121323
My first flight sim

Terribly underrated
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>>186203270
Sorry for wrong impression, it's all cool

Nice pictures btw
>Южнoй-Caхaлинcк
Sounds like a bitch place to live with that terrain
>Was reduced to a shithole of a village when capitalism set in.
Same here. Here a lot of people moved to bigger cities, villages/towns are just dying out because it's elders mostly. I'm not old enough to have lived in SSR, but I heard it wasn't that bad as people make it out to be. Nowadays people are irritable here, because government is just fucking up everyone.
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>>186201590
Yeah, true, don't know any similar game 2bh.
Well one good thing is that modding exists atleast.
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>>186204390
Yeah. I'm glad that modders actually produced somewhat good tracked vehicles.
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>>186205717
>tracked vehicles
Holy shit someone made that? I need to dowload spintires again
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>>186207819
Yep. There's a few even on the workshop. You need Spintires+ for them to work.
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>>186203270
>be Soviet Union
>collapse because commie
>idiot blames capitalism for collapsing
You have to be a moron
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>>186211995
>Can't even read like a human

Wow must be that capitalist education
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>>186212542
>Was reduced to a shithole of a village when capitalism set in.
These are your words, how should I interpret them?
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>>186214949
Capitalism causes multiculturalism and ruins communities.

Also not him and i'm fucking with you.
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>>186211995
>blames capitalism for collapsing
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>>186216857
Not him, but wow, it seems like life is going so peaceful and well in Germany, UK, France, US
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>>186217906
What are you talking about Germany is very peaceful, in fact they are planning on putting drugs in the water so that people will be even more accepting of the peace.
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>>186218179
>they are planning on putting drugs in the water so that people will be even more accepting of the peace.
Could do quick rundown?
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>>186218304
Some researchers think that putting drugs in water would make people more accepting of migrants.
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>>186218491
That's fucking dumb
Thanks
Anyway
DISCLAIMER: Mods ban politic discussion here seriously, don't want anyone to get banned here, so please don't let this evolve into /pol/
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>>186218974
I am making a mission for DCS based on this its game related discussion.
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>>186219160
Please do CAS field full of mods
Thanks in advance
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>>186115847
Children of a Dead Earth if you want an actual sim.
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>>186115847
Elite dangerous
Combat isn't 10/10 but it's well enough
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>>186223812
rip
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>>186223448
I always thought they have more than that
It looks so small air force when you see this
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Will the Reds ever be getting love any time soon? I fly the fishbed more than anything, and as I see more and more blue modules coming close to release the concern starts to set in.
How long will we be staring at an extremely unbalanced multiplayer?
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Really activates my neurons
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>>186226875
recent US estimates put Korean nuke arsenal at like 60 iirc
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>>186050638
Sling-loading is busted right now
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>>186227079
>this is supposed to make any difference about who's the bigger threat
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>>186227337
>>186081094
Longest sling rope made me able to move it and etc
but it looks shit af
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>>186227079
>Trusting US estimates
Like the estimates for iraq?
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>>186226506
>Will the Reds ever be getting love any time soon?
>Will the Reds ever be getting love?
never ever

off to gulag
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This is german MiG-29 "Beloved enemy"
Say something nice to her
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>>186226506
>Simg's resident slavboos when MiG-25 gets released
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>>186227908
>chemical weapons don't count nuh uh guise
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>>186228654
>give Iraq the chemical weapons
>give Iraq intelligence data where and how to use chemical weapons
>direct Iraqi chemical strike on Halabja
>muffle halabja on the news for years
>start talking about it when Iraq is no longer useful and you want to take them out
Really gets the noggins joggin...
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https://youtu.be/uagkxhr-wFo
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>>186228654
But none were ever found.
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>>186183641
Lmfao not really.
F-15 will have better radar and I it'll have the energy advantage also.

Hornet doesn't even have a 1.0 t/w ratio.
Energy manuverabilty > high alpha. High alpha is a fucking meme in modern combat. Good for airshows, but not good in practicality. Eagles will do what they always do, haraass you with 120's while running circles around you.

Reminder that the F-15 is 104-0, while F-18's have a kill on a MiG-21 and an Su-22, while getting dunked on by a fucking MiG-25.

Reminder that the F-18 is literally second hand trash that lost to the F-16.
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>>186229643
But the F-18 also has Aim-120s

Also
>DCS
>Realistic modern combat
Pick one and only one.
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>>186229789
Yeah, but the F-15 gets to engage and disengage at will. Eagle will get in range, fire and just fly away while you try to pull your max of 7g's and get smacked.

Trust me, the F-15 flown right will dunk on the hornet, just like it does in the Su-27. If you merge and try to turn and burn, you'll get dicked by the Hornet and Flanker.
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>>186230373
Yeah, but the F-15 gets to engage and disengage at will. Eagle will get in range, fire and just fly away while you try to pull your max of 7g's and get smacked.

But they have the same range on missiles.
They need to support them for the same amount of time.

What the hell are you even talking about.
The F-15 has a speed advantage yes, but it doesn't matter much, because if it wants to contest get kills or god forbid if a mission actually forces you to control airspace, they are on an equal footing and the F-18 is ahead because it's better simulated so it has better simulated systems.
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>>186229789
>Digital Civilian Simulator
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>implying F-15s will reign supreme when an aircraft that can match it, and that won't be flown by retards like the F-15 is comes out
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Isn't F-18 getting 120D?
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>>186227453
My idea is that the north-gooks just wanted in on that sweet deterrence theory. I mean it makes sense. Nobody likes them
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>>186230915
You're wrong, and you will remember my posts when the Hornet comes out. The eagles amraams contest the airspace because it's gone once you shoot at it. The hornet will pull 35 degrees of AOA and get raped by missiles.


There is a reason that the F-15 is the GOAT fighter. High alpha is the biggest meme. It's all about acceleration, speed, and having insane energy to defeat shit.
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delicious baguette
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>>186232812
The hornet can't pull 35degrees of AoA when loaded, because wings go snibbidy.

I just think you are a moron.
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High AOA is overrated compared to raw power

>lose the energy fight
>enemy gets in a position of advantage
>pulling huge AOA just gets you turned slow and broadside right in the enemy's crosshairs
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>>186233881
>>186234813
Is the openconflict?
The lag and absolute retardation seems to fit
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>>186234994
yeah
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>>186234813
lemme try this one again
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>>186049389
>>186052496
>>186150602
>>186161874
>>186233881
>>186234813
>all these F-5E Dogfight .webms
>not a single use of any "Dogfight Mode"
It's a bummer really, Belsimtek put a lot of effort into the detail of this module, and the dogfight radar/sight modes are super neat. But, it seems that nobody uses them....
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90% of surviving with the F-5 on a server with 4th gen planes is not getting caught

I use the radar sparingly because it tips off the other guy, those last four wubbums are mine and I think only in the last one did the guy for sure know I was there
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FSX question

Anyone know of not super busy airports that are typically populated with Vatsim controllers?

Got to the point i was ready to do a flight, got taxi clearance, and then everyone went offline.

looking for GA fun, not commercial, trying to learn all this flying stuffs, flying a shitty little A2A C172 is surprisingly a lot of fun.

>look at this nerd not wanting to do dogfights
maybe once i get a better computer ill join in on the fighter sims
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>>186237271
I use it often but not when trying to fight planes with decent RWRs and the ability to fuck me raw.

I want the guy to not see me coming and a big fuck me light on the nose isn't helping
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What's even the point of the first dogfight mode in the F5 when guns mode does the same thing and more?
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>>186241123
The thing that missile mode does that gun mode doesn't is put a little steering cross on your radar scope that shows where he is relative to where your nose is pointing

so you can use it to home in on aircraft you can't see, I guess you could use it at night or in bad weather
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What happened to /arma/?
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Does anyone else like to sit there and autistically fool around with their INS system, putting in nearby airports with their glideslopes and some reference points, or do I need to seek help?
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>>186241123
Dogfight is to engage enemies of whom you cannot see. Great in clouds or if you've lost contact for a moment, because it will lock him back up the second that he pops out of whereever he is hiding and tell you exactly how to steer to get him.
For best results, hold down the lock button while you do so.
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>>186242965
I think it became deder than we are.
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>>186242965
Shitposted hard
Mods started deleting /a3g/
So they just ran away
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Can someone confirm November SSNs shouldn't be running around surfaced? Because I think the Cold Waters AI has a new and exciting bug.
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>>186246247
>In that moment he realized, he fucked up
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has anyone managed to win a 1968 campaign?
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>>186249265
Playable Russians mod or no? It's pretty fun with with the default campaign or the Red campaign if you use something like a Charlie. Even a Foxtrot is good in 1968, and Soviet torpedos are so much better than Mk 37s it's not funny
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>>186250028
>>186249882
Imagine what'll happen when they figure out you can cram a nuke into a Koksan shell, or onto a 220mm MLRS.
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So the dev that currently works on the MiG-21 said they are hard at work for they are about to submit their next "bird" to ED for testing.

What's it gonna be?
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>>186252159
F4U corsair, unless they abandoned that retarded idea.
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>>186252362
They said they have put the Corsair on hold and will come back to it later. Literally nobody knows what it is.

I have one guess though, and if its true I'll suck my own dick
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>Make a tank cannon with a fully electrical stabilization system
>weld the gunsight to the main cannon
Russians, everyone.
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>>186253134
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3219445&postcount=9

hmm
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the hexshit is powerful, it expands our sight, our information is more perfect
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>>186154798
done
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>>186254698
Needs a rubber curtain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShACteRduY
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>>186249882
>>186250028
What I find amazing about these drills, and what was amazing about the last artillery attack they showed; was just how many duds NK had. It was in the range of like 50% duds.
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>>186254698
hey carrier dude
Can the F5 or the M2000 use its hook to land on the carrier? They both seem to have one.
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>>186255110
How do you know that, Mr. Archair expert?
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>>186255427
Actual stats released about their drills taken from orbit vs military analysts who have viewed their exercises over the years.
http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/205841/fact-checking-from-low-earth-orbit/
http://kpablogger-blog.tumblr.com/post/26761079826/the-bombardment-of-yeonpyeong-the-failings-of?route=%2Fpost%2F%3Aid%2F%3Asummary
http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/

It's no surprise, most of their equipment are holdovers from the Korean war. Much of it has to be sighted by eye, and requires wind and variation charts to use. Which are kind of hard to use with equipment that is almost 50 years old.
It's really fascinating. I wonder if they're ever going to sell their old Mig-21's as they slowly get more 29's, and for how much each one will sell for.
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>>186255982
This is good info, but what you say about "their equipment is korean war hold offs" is completely false. The Koksan is from the late 70's, the rest of their SPG fleet is from the mid-late cold war. Not sure if they even had much in the Korean war.
>most of it has to be sighted by eye
Maps exist. Aerial reconnaissance exist. Surface radar exists. This isn't WW1.
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Why do we keep dying, are you fuckers cheating on us with the Ace Combat thread?!
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I wanna know what Korean civil war round 2 without USA or China intervening would look like
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>>186255982
On training exercises you use up ammunition that is close to or already expired. You save up the good shit for the proper conflict.
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>>186257539
>NK attacks
>NK literally showers Seoul with artillery
>Ground war begins
>probably stalemate
>Kim nukes the south
the end
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>>186257539
>presses big red button
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>>186257661
The analysis was taken from the attack on yeonpyeong
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>>186257539
It would be like a one-on-one match between East and West Germany. The East Germans/Norks are outgunned, outskilled, and otherwise will only be able to stall the South Koreans/West Germans at the border before they're simply fought back into Berlin/Pyongyang.

The North Koreans have nukes, but they're small in number, susceptible to interception, low yield, and with a high rate of launch failure, let alone warhead failure. I wouldn't consider them a significant factor unless we're stupid enough to let the Norks sit around and develop a worrying nuclear capability 5-10 years down the line.
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>>186258110
>random bullying of cuck korea
that's an exercise anon
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Please.
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>>186255982
>http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/
This guy doesn't even include NK SAM air defenses into his figure, his figure probably shows static ZSU-23/57 sites instead of SAM sites
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>>186259010
Why would you take Nork SAMs into the equation when everything that flies can carry enough ECM to ground the entire missile netwotk?
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>>186260201
>all of nork SAM will get instagibbed the second a war starts
Maybe in South Korea's wet dream
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>>186260201
>what are countermeasures
>>
>Before new patch, everything was fine
>Now, my tire pops like a balloon EVERY FUCKING TIME I TAKE OFF
WHY
WHAT CHANGED
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>>186259010
All I'm sayin' bro, he's a military analyst and you're not. He might have a really good reason for thinking that.
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>>186253134
If it's the mig-23, you won't need to suck your own dick. Us slavaboo will probably form a rat king of dicksucking madness
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What's so great about the Mig-23 compared to the Mig-21?
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how shit the mig23 is. like if you drop f15s in the mig23 you are big tier
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>>186265715
Variable wings.
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>>186266068
>>186265971
I know it was supposed to be this massive 4th gen fighter upgrade, but I thought performance-wise it was lacking in almost every way. I thought it was a failure of an export and that it wasn't even that much of an upgrade over the MiG-21, also the F-5 beat it in dogfight trials.
Am I right?
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>>186266402
Aside from the wings, there's absolutely no reason for this over the MiG-25.
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>>186265715
MiG-23 is just a better MiG-21. Faster, better radar, more stable and easier to fly.

Once you hit the second gen Floggers, so the P, ML, MLA, MLD, you also are now more maneuverable than the MiG-21

>>186265971
>>186266402
Here's the thing, the MiG-23 wasn't necessarily horrible, it just never fought what it was designed to.
It was built to beat vietnam era fighters, but it ended up fighting F-16's and F-15's and that's just not fucking fair. It was not a 4th gen plane at all.

It has an absolutely atrocious record because of this. The Jews in their F-15's and F-16's anally raped MiG-23's. MiG-23's were also flown in combat by some of the most incompetent airforces in the world, further adding to its record.

If we do get an MiG-23, especially a second gen one, it will be fucking PERFECT for fighting against the F-4 for example. That would be a ridiculously fun full fidelity match up that isn't super one sided.

>>186266526
The MiG-25 is my favorite plane, but there is just no way we get it. I would fucking love being the biggest pain in the ass flying at speeds and alts that nobody else in DCS could touch, but it wont happen.

If this mystery module isn't the MiG-23, I'll be pretty disappointed. I'm trying not to hype my self up. I think we get the MiG-23 eventually.
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>>186267419
Actually the F-14 could come pretty close to touching you even without its AIM-54s. Do you think that if we do get the 25 that it'll be able to go at mach 2.8 unrestricted or will the engines start to take damage?
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MiG-23 has a good record against what its supposed to fight, judging from the Iran-Iraq war
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>>186267906
>without AIM-54s
Every MiG-25 kill the Iranian F-14's got were with AIM-54's though.

It can run at 2.8, its when you go above that do the engines get damaged. Knowing DCS, everyone would be flying around at 3.2 because fuck maintenance.
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>>186268137
Either way I hope to either shoot down pesky MiG-25s in my Tomcat or flee from them.
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http://leatherneck-sim.com/coming-soon/

So at first I was like, fuck it's just going to be a fucking P-38 or something, but people have said they used to have all sorts of art on their website, and it was planes one of their modelers had made.

Leatherneck/Magnitude have said to not look to into the backgrounds as they are just decoration.

The dream is still alive.
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>>186250093

>atomic artillery from C&C : Generals
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Why do they bother with WW2 planes in DCS? Who plays DCS for WW2 planes instead of IL2?
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>>186204169
>Sounds like a bitch place to live with that terrain
Not realy.
I actually like mountainous terrain. Nice view, protection from wind and skiing site right at the doorstep in winter.
Still I agree that russian town names sound kinda clumsy. I like the pre-WW2 jap names -
Noda, Maoka, Toyohara.
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>>186270692
what are you talking about
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>>186270915
Literally nobody. Biggest mistake in all of DCS.

>>186271414
People are speculating that there is a MiG-23 module coming soon from Leatherneck, or Magnitude or whatever. Its apparently close to being done because a recent forum post by them mentioned that their latest "bird" is being sent to ED for testing very soon.

That coming soon page shows what appears to be a P-38 though, but they've said them selves not to dig too deep and that it's just decoration.

A lot of things point towards it being a MiG-23
>devs that made the MiG-21
>they've said it shares 70% of systems with the MiG-21
>they said they'd do a MiG-23 eventually
>they've put their WWII shit on hold
>a random MiG-23 mod and razbams MiG-23 module were swiftly shut down with very little explination
>wags said he thinks the flogger will come to DCS eventually (about a year ago)
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I want to get into combat flight simulation
Tell me, is DCS a real simulator or arcade shit difficult-ized and hyped as a sim by its playerbase
Will I actually experience the same experience of a pilot?
Is combat realistic?
Are there historical missions?
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>>186271985
>Is combat realistic?
If 104th is any indication of "realistic combat" we're doomed.
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>>186271985
DCS is a fighter sim which is unsure what era it wants to be.

It has weapons and armaments too new to be from the pure 4th generation
It has planes too old to be set in the 3rd generation
It has planes which would clearly be seen flown in the modern era instead flying around the 70's era Caucasus region firing missiles made in the 90's.
It has planes which are exquisitely detailed down to manufacturing errors which are only known to people who have their design documents flying alongside planes which range from accurate to behaving like Arwings at the drop of a hat
It has missiles which can't hit the broad side of a barn being fired alongside missiles that easily pull 15G to reach their target

And all of this has resulted in a simulator that has adopted a variety of tactics that, while realistically sound, wouldn't actually be deployed in real-life because even back then there were technology barriers that kept everyone on the same page. Instead everyone flies 200 feet above treetop level, hiding in valleys and mountains, because the power disparity between certain planes and certain loadouts is so strong that they can range from instantly killing someone with masses of fire-and-forget missiles to having some of the best dogfight battles I've ever had in a simulator.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that DCS is flawed and not really an accurate representation of real-life, but it's the best we have. And if real-life became this mish-mashed time-displaced combination of World War 2 and Korea-era fighters flying alongside planes made in 1998, then it would probably be reflective of real-life.
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>>186271985
It's a real simulator, kind of, but the limitations of DCS as a game produces a very unrealistic experience

You could theoretically have a realistic experience only if you have a group of likeminded players and a gamemaster creating realistic scenarios, all of you willing to go the extra mile of autism for authenticity's sake

The most-played public multiplayer servers consist of: a red base and a blue base 100 miles apart, with both sides having access to every type of aircraft, taking off one by one to fly aimlessly around the middle of the map until they run out of radar guided missiles or get shot down

That's pretty much the only game in town unless you're part of a group that can run ops; sometimes there's a cold war server that's the same shit without 4th gen planes (which makes it much more fun but no more realistic)

There are no historical missions or assets (except for some WWII shit you have to buy separately) or even historically accurate matchups. The only actual historical air battles you could simulate would be F-86 vs Mig-15bis over Taiwan (the planes we have are actually wrong for Korea) and I think some African bush war where one side (Kenya?) had F-5Es and the other had the Mig-21bis.
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>>186252159
>Mig incomplete and inaccurate a lot
>next bird
I love yet hate dcs
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>>186261614
Well if it wasn't DCS I would give you changelog, but considerng in dcs werun on secrets
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>>186049238
is there a demand for gunners in IL2?

I am interested in getting into it but can't fly for shit and don't have a joystick. I imagine a gunner or bombardier wouldn't need a joystick
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>>186279030
Yes
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dead
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>>186228872
>now ebil ghemigal webons in sirya
>really gets my hands rubbing
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>>186279290
Which IL-2 game has the highest demand for gunners?
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>>186285741
BoS You only need one of the "Battles" to be a gunner
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>>186286324
which one has the deepest gunner mechanics.
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>>186287227
All of the games share mostly the same mechanics, but BoS and kind of CloD look the best doing it.
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>>186287698
does the battle of Moscow pack for BoS have a large enough playerbase to get away being a gunner?
is being a bombard viable too?
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>>186288534
It doesn't matter what Battle pack you buy all it does is allow to you to pilot what planes are in the pack, so as long as you own the game you can be a gunner in any plane. And no only the pilot can use the bomb-sight, but 777 has said they may change the API so it can be multi-crew'ed.
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>>186288691
cool
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>>186255319
F-5 cannot, it's for emergency landings on airfields. Though maybe it'll work with the new carriers, who knows.
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>>186287227
>shoot gun

There you go, that's all there is to being a gunner in any plane, sometimes you have more than one gun and can switch between them, sometimes not.
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prick
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>>186294447
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>>186294447
Let me guess
Because of squad?
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post nice fishes
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>>186300919
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>>186271985
DCS is not a sim and its air combat is arcade as fuck. The playerbase thinks its hot shit for some reason.
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On launch Flight Sim World got slated.
I've noticed opinion is beginning to change a bit, did they patch into working properly or is it just the only people left talking about it are the shills now?
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>>186301043
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>>186271985
DCS can be but not multiplayer outside ops and there is such little content otherwise given the lack of a dynamic campaign.
You want Falcon BMS by the sounds of it.
>>186273690
+1 insightful.
One of the problems DCS also suffers from, in a way, is that air combat doesn't really exist anyway. There is the odd "wild weasel" type thing but dog fights have been few and far between in the last 30 years and even then, they've been ludicrous mismatches. The Falklands if the last war I can think of and even there it turned out to be a mismatch although people didn't know that until it happened. More people still get killed in sword fights.

My prediction is that if there are any at all in the rest of our lifetimes, it will be JF-17s shooting at each other if only because China is going to push them into unstable regimes to buy their allegiance. Said regimes will then fight their neighbours with them if history is any guide.
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>>186304014
I could post and post, too bad image limit is a thing
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>>186304461
Forgotten :(
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>>186304856
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>>186305634
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>>186302352
What's a good sim for you then?
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>>186306805
Combat? There is no proper one, only military ones I suppose.
DCS is good study sim, but in stuff like dogfights it's dogshit.
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>>186307121
Thanks for the clarification.

To stay somewhat on the same topic, what's a good/the best civilian flight Sim? Been watching frooglesim and it appears that every Bit of content for xplane etc costs at least 20bucks.
Only played bms and a Bit of il2.
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>>186307121
>dogfights it's dogshit

Ok DCS is bad enough but you don't have to lie. The flight models are the best around and the missiles you use in BFM actually work.

BVR is where it struggles most because of how horrible the missile physics are. This is supposedly being worked on, as all ground weapons have advanced flight models now, with air to air weapons to follow.
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>DCS
>BVR
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>>186309369
Well it's fun, but simulation wise it's not perfect, I may oversaid with shit, and should've said inperfect.
I think it will be better with F/A-18C and F-14 joining the 4th full-fidelity club
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>>186310713
>>186311016
>>186311187
>>186311228
holy shit
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>>186310713

wtf
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>>186311016

the ultimate dcs webm
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Did someone mention dcs hate thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDoASjQo9q8
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Quality DCS networking
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>>186312815
Is it R-73 that are shit
Or flares that are OP
Or is it normal
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>>186313296
Just DCS
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>First pass
>Didn't explode
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>>186312815
Did someone mention you suck cocks
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>>186313825
What
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>>186314045
>You spin me right round
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>>186309369
Missiles work in DCS? You don't say? Then what is happening in this webm?
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>>186314945
WEBM RUINS PORN QUALITY
watch youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFmDNeD7Eg
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>>186311228
>>186311187
>>186311016

what does your shitty internet connection have to do with dcs? i can also post webms of me playing multiplayer games with bad ping
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>>186313825
The Maverick is simulated so poorly missiles track through terrain, buildings, everything basically. I was banned from ED forums 5 years ago for claiming that the AGM-65 isn't modeled properly (the keyhole issue) but they just banned me.
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>>186315340
>30 Ping
>shitty internet connection
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>>186315480
I got banned for complaining about FLIR and telling how it works realisticly
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>>186315549
>>186315549

oh yeah i forgot to mention genius, the other guy too

nevermind, you are going to lie and say "both of us had 30 ping man what are you talking about, lame dcs netcode!" despite the fact that you are the only faggot who seems to be having trouble so consistently
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>>186315752
Kill yourself
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>>186315823
>There's no cheating in DCS
But there is. You can make a radar with exports which updates every tick, gives you plane info, signal strenght and etc. I can show you what does it export in a sec.
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>>186315823
wow, what a big fag you are, babby has just now discovered extremist fanboys.

I'm not saying DCS is perfect or that it's netcode is even good, I'm saying it's good ENOUGH.

the only reason it's not good *enough* for you is that you are a NEET loser who exists only to play this game, so once you realize that it's potentiality is limited you SCREAM. when you hit the outer edges of an ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCT you cannot FATHOM how it was not a representation of all potential because that's what you've invested into video games.

for anyone who only plays once a week and with friends most video games are sufficiently entertaining, for people who play games all day every day of the week, no video game is sufficiently entertaining so they have to distract themselves by complaining about video games by typing nothing angrily into the blackhole of internet discussion to be forgotten by all men for all time.
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>>186316038
NO! NO! The guy says there is no cheating! DCS is PERFECT don't you understand? It is always your fault.

Do you not realize how brainwashed these people are?
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>>186316361
how brainwashed are you that despite being given the greatest gift by god you spend your time right here complaining about HOW terrible this product is while producing nothing yourself?
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>Cant even tell who is baiting or bodying
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>>186316361
for the consumer, the investment of the producer is never SUFFICIENT, because while the producer continues to produce, the consumer only WAITS like a dog, pestering for it's next nibble, fixated by the next PRODUCT
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>>186316361
You're just going retarded
There is nothing perfect
Neither are we in real-life or is anyone.
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>>186316558
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>>186316205
The netcode is barely functional.

It was thought up in an age where half the things DCS has now didn't even exist.
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How much is ED paying you guys for shilling/defending?
Surely you can't be doing this for free?
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>>186315823
Its a weird pathology, I've never understood people like this and they seem to exist all kinds of communities.

Over the years I've had technical issues with stuff from time to time and nearly every time it eventually came out it was actually genuinely broken.

But nearly every time I tried to raise it with the people I was paying, some dickhead would interfere with "I'm not having any problems" and tell me it was my fault.

Its really the most infuriating trolling known to man. These days I ignore any company that has a "take it to the forums" attitude (truthfully it just means they don't give a fuck about funding proper customer service). They get one email and if nothing happens, its a refund request copying consumer protection and regulatory authorities (which has so far worked without exception incidentally). There is no reason to follow their stupid rules, they are just hoping you're stupid enough to believe them.
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>>186317872
The "Take it to the forums" is there because companies release broken shit that is barely working instead of having a proper testing team (which costs money).

Basically you are buying a product which doesn't work and then help the fuckers fix it. The brainwashed people don't even realize it and are thinking they are "doing a favor for the community" instead of what it really is - "supporting lazy companies with no quality control".
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>>186318671
Its worse with the likes of DCS, they verge on trying to brainwash you and apparently it even works on some people who become, as consumer, subservient to their servants via forum rules.

If you want to complain, you must do it in a certain way and then your claim will arbitrated by random idiots after which we might choose to look at it ourselves.

Er, no fuck off, that isn't how it works.
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>>186058163
What game is this if you don't mind my asking?
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aryan slaying ops now
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>>186319018
Exactly! Look at our favorite ED mod Shitspawn. The guy has no military record, no aviation record, he works in an office job and his portfolio says he can "print paper".

This guy banned an active duty A-10C crew chief that was alerting ED on the flaws of the A-10C. Instead of doing his job of forwarding this to higher ED employees he just banned him.

This is how brainwashed these morons are and the only reason they are in these positions is not because of knowledge but because of sucking Wagses numb toes and connections.
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OPS
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>>186312815
What's going on in there? Modded flare dispenser?
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>>186313825
That's not how that seeker head works lmao what the fuck DCS.
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>>186320196
Well anon, I would say beware of mixing up the issues because its part of their schtick What you're talking about is asshole behaviour. But if I buy something and it doesn't actually work for the purposes for which it was sold, that isn't a preference or a debate but they try to pretend its the same as someone quibbling over radar modes.

Main thing everyone needs to remember is that companies can make whatever rules they want, your statutory rights still apply in most jurisdictions whether they like it or not. I did not enter in a contract where I said this would be adjudicated by anonymous jackasses but people will try to pretend.
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Thanks guys I wanted to buy my first DCS module now I dont know.. Guess its XPlane or p3d then.
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>>186320916
It's viggen missile, so blame viggen devs
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>>186321521
>>186321925
This is steal armour right?
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I wanna dig a tank trench and live in it
>>186322291
Graviteam tactics operation star shield of the prophet DLC famlam
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Behold
Example of export
: {
[Emitters] = {
[1] = {
[Type] = {
[level3] = number: "101"
>wsType_AS_TRAIN_Missile
[level1] = number: "2"
>Ground
[level4] = number: "75"
>X-29T TV (AS-14 'Kedge')
[level2] = number: "16"
>wsType_SAM
}
[Azimuth] = number: "1.0060220956802"
[Power] = number: "0.83987760543823"
[ID] = number: "16777728"
[Priority] = number: "140.83987426758"
[SignalType] = string: "scan"
}
[2] = {
[Type] = {
[level3] = number: "101"
[level1] = number: "2"
[level4] = number: "42"
[level2] = number: "16"
}
[Azimuth] = number: "-0.60858452320099"
[Power] = number: "0.73460388183594"
[ID] = number: "16778240"
[Priority] = number: "140.73460388184"
[SignalType] = string: "scan"
}
}
[Mode] = number: "0"
}
You can automate it to work even better than any radar on any plane. But that's cheating and that fucking sucks.
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>>186320196
Fun facts.
Shitspawns wife died, she as also fat and ugly like him, probably died because of him, he probably banned her IRL one day as well.

Anyway, you don't know the shit that happens in the Russian forums, even with my limited Russian it's just wew lad.
One time some guy found an actual real Su-27 pilot and actually got him to play the sim, the pilot said that the snibbidy snab isn't realistic, that at the points at which the plane falls apart, in real life it would need inspection and that it takes much much more to actually break it.
EDs response to this was
HURR DURR IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT VERSION FROM OURS THE MANUAL CLEARLY STATES, PILOTS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR PLANES.
>>186321180
Just buy your favorite plane.

Or FC3.
It's the only modern plane shooty game that's worth anything, and actually has a selection or aircraft.
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>>186322976
Yeah but servers that have that have a green shield icon have exports disabled.
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>want to buy truck/driving/tank simulators
>dont want to look autistic infront of my steam friends
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>>186324284
>2017
>caring about what your friends think
The cool thing about friends is that you can always get more.
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>>186324284
>inb4 friends play animu games.
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>>186310713
That's actually understandable if it's not an all-aspect SARH missile.
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>>186325295
>All aspect SARH missile
>ALL ASPECT SARH MISSILE
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I had a couple of quick questions from just reading random stuff online.

1) What makes the Matra Super 530D better than any other SARH missile? I've seen people sing its praise, but I'm yet to see why it's better than say, the R-27.

2) I saw some videos online of the MiG-21 LanceR, and it's a two-seater aircraft. Why? What part of the Lancer's functions requires RIO?
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>>186325295
What probably happened is whoever shot it lost the lock at the last minute. But still, that missile should have a proximity fuse.
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>>186325218
>Things that never happened
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>>186324284
>thinking anyone ever looks at someone elses profile

caucassu 2.5 when? WHEN?

>planning on building a spessbase in ksp
>c this
ha-ha, little green ayys are funny
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>>186325863
>2) I saw some videos online of the MiG-21 LanceR, and it's a two-seater aircraft. Why? What part of the Lancer's functions requires RIO?

Romania upgraded all their legacy MiG-21s to the LanceR standard, the two seaters are just upgraded trainers. There is no requirement for a WSO.
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>>186326113
(you)
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>>186326245
Oh, well that explains it perfectly.
What was ED's explanation as to why we can't get the LanceR standard in DCS? I see some murmuring over the 21-93 on the forums but they all get unilaterally shut down after one page.
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>>186319157
It's an F-86 shooting down a Mig-21 in DCS World on the cold war server
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Are flightsims only for rich people? Holy shit that stuff is expensive. Hotas, modules etc.
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>>186325218
Not gonna lie that's a very sexy angle on the MiG-25
she looks very thicc
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>>186326508
There is no explanation offered, nor one really needed. There is nothing prohibiting someone making a LanceR module for DCS.

But would you *really* want an obscure modern Romanian ground attack MiG-21?
The MiG-21bis was the variant that LN made because it perfectly typifies the MiG-21 in its prime, it saw plenty of combat IRL in Africa and the Middle East with good success, and represents the pinnacle of the MiG-21 in Soviet service.

The MiG-21 LanceR is a very rare and very specialised late life upgrade package, only 36 are flying. It will probably never see action, and if it does it will be grossly outclassed by anything in the air. The bis is a much better pick for the variant to include in DCS.

>I see some murmuring over the 21-93 on the forums but they all get unilaterally shut down after one page.

It went on for much longer than one page, though maybe you're looking at a newer thread. It'll probably never happen, LN have said they're open to it but there's more money and more interest in developing new planes.
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>>186327181
It doesn't have to be...you don't need anything more than a stick truly.

Side note: how the FUCK do people learn Falcon BMS?
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>>186327604
By not being dumb.
My favorite is how hoggit is literally too dumb to bind their controls, so they never touch BMS even though it shits on DCS in terms of single player content.
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>>186326732
That's a mig-31
>>186325863
>s530D
It isn't better than any other SARH missile in DCS it's simply a case of french bias, like every game where the frog rears its ugly head.
>>186325986
It's a ARH missile you dumb dumb.
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>>186331623
>31
Didn't notice the panel, fuck
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Is there anything uglier than the MiG-25 with overlapping Pilot-Pilot husbando cockpits
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>tank sims have virtually no market
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>>186333920
They never get advertised well. I'd kill for a decent WW2 tank sim, shit for 1944 Europe and such.
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>>186334873
This
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wtf am I supposed to do against the ET, if you don't see it coming you're fucked.
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>>186335110
Wow it's almost.
Almost as if.
As if THATS THE FUCKING POINT.
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>>186334873
shit taste
let me guess, you wanna kill shermans in a tiger?
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>>186335110
Don't be a lone wolf retard.
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>>186324284
>Set yourself to offline mode
>They won't see you go in-game
>Caring about it
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>>186327604
Check youtube tutorials, manual is hardcore autism
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>>186332025
No, it ruins one the sexiest aircraft.

>>186335110
Just operate as though its always coming. If you are fighting a Flanker BVR just know one is on its way. Drop like 3 flares and it's spoofed.

If they are sneaky and get behind you, well then there isn't much you can do.
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>>186335723
No, I wanna experience hell in hedgerows not knowing whether or not to pump rounds into that hedge across the field.
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>>186201469
>>186202496
>>186203270
>>186204169
>>186271035
That's a nice looking island. I like the landscape.
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>>186285741
>>186287227
>>186288534
We are playing right now if you want to join
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>OPS WH-
>Oh someone is playing now
>Nah fuck that shit
Every OPS when post in nutshell
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As someone who has little to no experience with flight sims, is IL-2 a good starting point for a new player?
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>>186340581
Yes. 1946 is a good place to start.
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>>186340581
Yes. You don't have to fiddle half a million switches to start your plane or anything.
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>There will never be "SABOW OPS when" on /simg/
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>>186340581
Will be my first flight Sim too I believe. Just waiting for my csgo knife to get sold so i can buy a hotas.
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>>186333920
buy the new girls und panzer game coming out soon, because that's where all the interest went.
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>>186335110
>186335110
Treat it as a BVR missile despite the fact that RWR will not let you know it's coming. Keep the bandit above you so you can see missile launches easier, and when he shoots; immediately go on the defensive.

Tips for cool people: If you're fighting in late-afternoon, then instead of immediately engaging, get the sun behind you, and then turn toward him. Don't use afterburners on your approach
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>>186341609
>tank sims
>girls und panzer
I'm an autist, not a casual.
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>>186341193
ill do ops with you
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>>186342106
two q's is there multicrew and can I pirate the game,
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>>186315693
The shitty FLIR modelling in DCS shits me above all else. I use an IR turret at work so it activates my almonds every time I spark up the A-10
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>>186342079
I'm thinking about reactivating my Steel Beasts licence desu
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>>186343780
>pay to get the game
>pay to get the patches
>pay to get the updates
nice game goy
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>>186341680
BANZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI
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>>186344146
>game
>not way of life
Stay casual
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>>186340581
Which IL-2?

The answer is yes no matter which.
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>>186343574
I know your pain anon
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in DCS, what is the difference between the SU-33 and the SU-27
I know there's a difference in real life, but there doesn't seem to be much of a flight model difference between the two other than "One can take off from a carrier".
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>>186346792
i think what you're saying may be true, currently su-33 is currently using sfm and pfm is releasing soon
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>>186346792
this
>>186347645
and
Su-33 has 2 hardpoints
96 contermeasures meanwhile su-27 has double of that

PFM related:
Su-33 is heavier
Same fuel
Same engines(I think)
Su-27 is now PFM
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>>186347780
>2 hardpoints
2 more hardpoints than su-27
Sleepy af sorry
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wtf, you can't reset the campaign in BoS?
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>>186349225
what's to reset?
it's a pile of crap that's being replaced soon anyway, do yourself a favour and wait until the new career mode drops.
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>>186347645
You really can't tell the difference between the Su-27's PFM and the Su-33's SFM? Bruh...

They are almost identical systems wise, but the Su-33 has two more hardpoints.

The Su-33 update will add PFM and some sort of terraign avoidance mode. Su-33 also has more powerful engines with access to emergency power.
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rough position
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Should I kill my self if Magnitude's mystery module isn't a MiG-23?
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>>186355603
Yes.
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>>186355603
But what if its a MiG-21-93?
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hmmmm
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>>186355771
Someone on the forums said they were spamming devs with Su-15 pictures, and one of them sent this back to him.
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>>186356508
this will not give redfor the edge it needs. lel. It'll be decent on the Cold War server but thats it.
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>>186356905
Neither would the MiG-23, but its something.
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>>186356172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLKhxjfG03A
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>>186357483
No, not really. I know nothing that devs can get a hold of the right unclassified information for, will be able to tip the scales.

Like has been said on here before, its weird that a Paki jet might become Redfor's saving grace.
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>>186320186
>Shoots plane with one wing.

Online cancer, basically the reason most servers are empty.
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>>186356253
>Reserved
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>>186358150
>doesn't finish off the kill
>gets archer into the ass
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>>186358146
It hurts my feeling everytime, imagine having 21-93
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>>186358476
I'll be honest, why the FUCK would you want the 21-93. Like, we already have a MiG-21. Why would you want a variant that was literally never made or sold to anyone?
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>>186358663
R-77 memes
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>>186358994
The R-77 is absolute fucking ass though.
Its still attached to a MiG-21 which flies like ass also.

KH-25 and 31 would be cool though, but not on a MiG-21.
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>>186359126
Well, desu I want all the birds, 21-93 would be good for memes but nothing else.
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>>186324284
Euro Truck Simulator is a legit fun game. Driving gets interesting when you're lugging around 20 fucking tons of concentrated Clorox or fluorine, and they made sure to create some pretty damn beautiful landscapes. Don't care about what your friends say, just fucking buy it.
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It's a mig23. Don't ask me how I know
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>>186358663
-Modern missiles
-Modern RWR
-Modern radar
-All on the mig platform that we all know and love.
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>>186359590
While we're taking advice from little birds, how far along is it and will it be released sometime this year?
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>>186359590
How do you know.
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>>186359126
>>186358663
You're missing the bigger picture.
The 21-93 is a 4th gen fighter, and there's no real arguing it. We aren't going to get the Fulcrum or the Flanker high-fidelity, so our only option at this point is to pick out Opfor craft that are either too obscure for Russia to care or are modernized/export versions of things available for years.
The 21-93 and the -2000 are, for all intents and purposes, 4th gen fighter upgrades. They have ground radar, modern TWS/RWS, datalink, and even ECM. If you knew how to fly the 21 before, then it's just more of the same but with added teeth.

I don't think anyone is arguing that it's going to go against an F-15 or even an F-18 and win some of the time and even with its upgrades. It's the idea of getting more Opfor craft. Otherwise we may as well throw away all of our addons and just fly the F-15 all day erry day.
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Daily reminder that we will NEVER EVER get a single Russian/Soviet aircraft newer than the MiG-21 in DCS.

This is a fact. When ever asked about it, every dev says there is a NDA so they can't discuss why this is.

This NDA is not because someone else is working on that plane, the NDA is put in place by ED to ensure that the 3rd party devs don't tell people the truth: Russia simply will not allow any full fidelity modules, and this will not change in the foreseeable future.

They don't want the playerbase to find out that there is 0% chance of any newer Soviet/Russian aircraft coming to DCS. When Wags was asked directly about this, he said literally nothing. He said that its complicated and that "i''ll leave it at that".

I'm sorry, but it won't happen. Just give up on DCS if you are slavboo.
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>>186360924
>Daily reminder that we will NEVER EVER get a single Russian/Soviet aircraft newer than the MiG-21 in DCS.
>There is an NDA
So how do you know?
No, seriously. I'm sick of all the doom and gloom. Explain how you know these details or don't spread misinformation.

The SU-27SM project clearly got shut down because it's less than 20 years old.

MiG-23 is almost 50 years old. The Mig-25 is the same age. I sincerely doubt Russia cares about either of those planes when the people who made them probably aren't even alive anymore.

I'm not trying to argue with you, but no one has accurate information regarding this. You may be 100% right, but at the same time, it's all just guesswork in the dark on whether that's really what is happening or not.

Besides, you just made a great case for the Mig-21-93.
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>>186361274
How do I know? Here you go
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2990626&postcount=160

The NDA isn't "hey someone else is working on it and we want it to be a surprise"
Its "nigga we can't make russian planes, don't tell people or they gonna be PISSED"

MiG-23 user mod, shut down.
RAZBAM MiG-23, cancelled.
RAZBAM MiG-29, cancelled.
ED Su-27SM, cancelled.

I'm telling you, there won't be a single modern full fidelity russian plane in dcs.
Once you can accept this as fact, life becomes easier because you don't become sad anymore. You just accept it and move on to other things.
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>>186361985
>The NDA isn't "hey someone else is working on it and we want it to be a surprise"
>Its "nigga we can't make russian planes, don't tell people or they gonna be PISSED"

But that's not what he said at all, now is it?

>No, it´s simply unavailable, NDA gents, sorry
What does this actually mean? Who the fuck knows. That is as much of a non-statement as anyone could ask for regarding the status of development.

Again, no one has this information so it's not accurate to go around saying "NEVER EVER" when we don't even have the specifics of the NDA. Maybe the SU-27SM got ED in a lot of legal shit, resulting in them not being able to speak about some of their works, maybe the MiG-23 wasn't available just like he says, maybe they really can't make Russian planes. There are so many 'maybe's here that it's silly to say anything is definitive.

>Once you can accept this as fact, life becomes easier because you don't become sad anymore. You just accept it and move on to other things.
Maybe when you present some actual facts, I'll come to accept them.
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>>186362737
You can hold on to hope, that's fine.
I've abandoned mine.

There is no reason to believe any alternatives. Nothing else makes sense. There really isn't many possible reasons for why they would not be able to do the aircraft, and even less reasons as to why they can't just tell us why.
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>>186363668
They said that they have a plane that shares most of its equipment with the MiG-21. That means that its either an Su or Yak series plane of similar year or the MiG-23.

You can go make conspiracy theories at the first vague answer but there hasn't been any real evidence of what you claim.
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Slavboos being fucked in the ass by the country and tech they worship so much. If you people aren't cucks I don't know what you are.

If Russia is the promised land why can't people make video games for children about a fucking aircraft that is worse than the shit I flush down the toilet?
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>>186365237
Well third party devs want to do so, but ED says to them that Russia doesn't allow it
I'm kinda suspicious about that tho.
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>>186365403
Shows how shit and backwater Russia is. For fucks sake, the US gave a Russian company the info about the A-10C(suite 3 is around 2008) systems and told them you can do and publish this but leave the other shit out.

But Russia for some reason cannot do the same about a shit aircraft that nobody cares about (besides a minority) and which is mostly phased out of service? This is reaching new levels of moron only Russia can come up or ED are lying.
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Its been 14 years now, I don't think its going to happen somehow.

Where "it" is any improvement in anything.

15 years ago a young Wags was waxing lyrical about adding the SU37 Super Flanker but we're still exactly where we were (although even then he was dodging questions about dynamic campaigns, I think its actually that he doesn't like them, Janes F/A18 was scripted as well).

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/lock-on-modern-air-combat-qanda/1100-2869589/
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>>186367539
Speaking of Dynamic Campaign, Wags said its a "when" not "if" thing in his latest Q and A
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>>186367539
>>186367607
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>>186367539
This
I think it's time for us to learn that Wags dodges questions on a lot of things, and it doesn't mean they're illegal or outlawed. Just that they're probably not going to happen with the way ED is going.
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>>186367675
I don't mean to keep slating ED but they are just so frustrating. They need a sort of tech version of Gordon Ramsay to go and shout at them.

They don't want to provide a dynamic campaign but the hoped-for community campaigns never arrived and half their developers can't/don't produce them either, even when selling expensive modules.

This is not a mystery, the scenario editor is horrendous and they refuse to invest in improving it.

What about multi-player? Sorry guys, no dedicated server for yuo.

So we end up with a stand-off where they've had a largely content free product for 15 years but we've got a map of France nobody wants.
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>>186367539
> MW: In terms of artificial intelligence (AI): Much like other areas of Lock On, the AI can be highly scalable. For novice players, it can be like shooting fish in a barrel, or at the high settings, most players will have their hands full.

>When at the higher settings, Lock On's AI pilots will be much smarter about energy management of the jet, better about avoiding incoming missiles, better about flight profiles during air and ground attacks, and they can be deadly dogfighters. Along with these autonomous functions, the AI will now react to a wide variety of radio commands that can be issued by the player. These range from having wingmen attack certain types of targets, AWACS providing vector information, or ATC giving smart and logical flight data.

When you lied the same shit 15 years ago and people today still fall for it. Absolute kek.
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>>186368834
>or ATC giving smart and logical flight data.
Is this a jab at the players who disregard the ATC and do whatever?
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>>186327604
The way all the Sim Dads playing it did, with the original Falcon 4 manual.

https://archive.org/details/Falcon_4.0

Obviously some things have changed but by the time you'd start noticing them, you can sort it out with Youtube videos.
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My concern with DCS is that we're rapidly approaching a collapse in interest after the F-14 and the F/A-18

Because after those two modules starting blowing everything else out of the sky, where does ED go from there? They can't make more modern aircraft that can combat those.
I don't want to spend 300 bucks on a simulator that is on its last legs, as in is slated to die within the next few years.
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>>186366221
Well, we don't know if it's really coming from Russia or not.
90% I think it is, but I give 10% to ED being a jew it always it
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>>186370016
They will start fixing the game which will take 5 years and by that time lets hope Russia unfucks its laws.

3rd party developers were supposed to make aircraft but they are so bad (Hawk, C-101) that my hopes are low. Doesn't help that ED are so pathetic that they don't have proper documentation for the SDK which leaves developers in the dark.
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>>186370016
>rapidly approaching a collapse in interest after the F-14 and the F/A-18
Oh man I'm slavaboo, but I love F/A-18
True collapse with it, will be what I say everytime
>Broken campaign, and same over same missions in multiplayer which need to be hand-crafted, and that takes a lot of time because editor is still 2d and Lock on tier, so rotating missions on multiplayer are only few
I think everyone will start asking for dynamic campaign badly. Because right now people imagine F/A-18C comming will make dcs like falcon BMS. When they realise it's not that, they're going to be mad, including me.

I could be wrong tho, but it's what I think.
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>>186370642
So missiles are shit IRL?
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>>186370642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKZjWT-i_Hk
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>>186371035
Does military not trust IFF that bad?
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>>186371150
After the shotdown of a civie airliner by the USN the ROE went insane and flights would only launch at targets if they are visually confirmed for hostile.
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>>186370642
>losing a dogfight to mig25's in your F-15
bruuuuh

>>186371035
>he needed the most modern active missile to defeat a tube powered brick that has no SPO

loooooool
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>be brand new 4th gen fighter out to prove its self
>get shot down on the first night of the war by the most slav aircraft ever made

senpai lmfao
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>>186371464
>>186371637
>There are reports that an IRIAF F-5E, piloted by Major Yadollah Javadpour, shot down a MiG-25 on 6 August 1983.[86][87]
Absolute kek
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>we will never have the meme machine its self in DCS and make NATOboos butt hurt as fuck as you zip at ridiculous speeds and altitudes

I love that the MiG-25 was genuinlly the biggest pain in the ass for US fighters in the modern age.

Only two of them even got shot down during desert storm, after a brief dog fight.

>be iraqi
>try to turn fight the f-15 even thought it was literally built to defeat you

dude arab airforces lmao
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>>186371697
>shooting down a damaged aircraft as its limping back to base

congradulations
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>when cruise missiles destroyed more aircraft on the ground than any air-to-air engagement
>when you are forced to get into visual range of a mach 2 interceptor to engage it so libtards won't cry
>when politics are holding the military back for no fucking reason
I wonder how would the first Gulf War look if there would be no ROE for aircraft.
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>>186371792
Doesn't the MiG-25 have twice as many loses as it has kills?
Also pic related
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>>186372364
>3:1 KDA ratio
Nope.
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>>186372256
I mean, it went basically fucking perfect, so I don't know how much better it could have gone.

More AIM-7 kills instead of AIM-9 I guess.

>>186372364
No, the general consensus is that its even, which is literally a miracle considering that's with arab airforces using it as a fighter. That's why I think its the most successful modern MiG.
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>>186372492
F-14's weren't employed in A2A and were mostly escorting AWACS or assisting F/A-18's on strike missions.
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>>186372492
>>186372473
You're right. I'm thinking about the 23. On a side note, the Iranians really wrecked face with the Tomcat.
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>>186372364
1:2 KDA in desert storm alone
Shot down an F-18, two got shot down because their cheeki-breeki radar jamming plan didn't work.
>>186372774
Tomcats had 1:1 KDA ration in the war IIRC, and their air dominance ended once the Iraqis imported Mirages
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>>186372814
In Iranian service the Tomcats had more than a hundred Air-to-Air kills with only two or three deaths.
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>>186312815
>implying pre digital imaging sensors weren't really that shit against that many countermeasures
Okay maybe not, but pretty close.
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iraqi_aerial_victories_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_aerial_victories_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

There is one researcher that claims the F-14's killed like 130 planes while only losing 3, but I don't see that backed up anywhere else.

A claim that like would usually be dismissed as total bullshit, but because its a US plane I think people just accept it.
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>>186371932
That's like when they brag about shooting down helicopters.

WOoow good job man, must have been a real tough job you did there
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We should just tell ED to make a german MiG-29. That'd be ok right?
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>>186373079
nice bullshit
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>>186372256
>be burger
>be retarded
>find billion dollar military jet buried
>haha graffiti it and drive a tank over it
Was it autism? that's valuable captured military equipment
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>>186371464
>being this much of a sore migger crybaby
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>>186374630
Its not that valuable when you have already inspected models that weren't buried.
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>>186374630
>valuable captured military equipment
>a rekt mig

hahahaa dude lmao you're retarded
it wouldn't have been useful even brand new

it's the slav-force that always has to scout out wrecks and bits and pieces to copy.

that loser kind of mentality doesnt apply to winning air forces
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>>186374347
It's not my fault the Iranians kept poor records of their kills. They range from 150+ according to the Iranians and as low as 19 by websites on the internet.
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>>186374914
no need to be so mad, maybe your F-18 was piloted by arabs
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>>186374930
or maybe anon.

They are lying about their kills.
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>>186375347
You know what, I don't know. They could be lying since they have claimed a triple kill on MiG-23s from one missile. Then again the Iraqis would also have to be in on it if they were lying about their kills.
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>>186374914
If I remember correctly the USA shit itself each time it got its hand on every slav aircraft of the cold war.
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>>186375628
lol no
the f15 alone was and still s superior to every slav trash ever defecated in existance

try harder slavboos
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>>186375848
>lolno
Go to bed and take your adderall
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>>186375897
oh right
your made up claim is 100% correct

>oooh
>cold war spooky stronk soviets

believing this much in history channel
baka nigga
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>I wanna fly my F-18 and blow slavshit out of the sky
>gets turbo-btfo instantly
>ADHD ridden american teen is bootyblasted about it 20 years later on an italian spaghetti recipe sharing website
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>literally no slav planes on a posivite k/d
>slav cunts act like their planes are anything more than laughable memes
>best accomplishment of 4gen slav aircrafts is 1 damaged and 1 downed enemy plane
>calls me assblasted

sasha get off the internet, it costs way too much
>>
>when your airforce is so shit
>that your SAM force is doing a better job at shooting down planes
>mein sides
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>>186373787
To be fair, when the mud hen hit one with a 2000 pound paveway, it was pretty impressive.
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>>186375628
Well, no, they shit themselves every time they heard of one for the first time, then realized it was nothing after a couple years when more info comes out.
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>>186356172
Unbelievably meh, 3rd gen best gen
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>>186374250
Ofc not.
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>MiG-25 on positive KDA
>21 and 19 maintained positive KDA until they were obsoleted
>burgerbab assblasted about his F-18 trying to hype up garbage because all the action it ever saw was 99 v 1 or against garbage balkan/arab airforces
>best accomplishments are shooting down antiquated museum artifacts and getting blasted by MiG-25's
Go to bed before Tyrone finishes fucking your mother and comes to pound your bp and get some rest wageslave
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Any of you tank fags here? Been thinking of getting Steel Beasts Pro or maybe Steel Armour: Blaze of War.

Should I? And if I get the Basra DLC for SABOW, will I get to use the Chieftain? And does the Chieftain have it's own modelled interior?
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>>186380450
Steel Armour only has the M60 and T-62
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>>186380450
If you've got that much dosh burning a hole in your pocket, SB is fine, but otherwise, @rma does make an acceptable substitute, with the right mods, and keeping in mind some engine limitations.
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>>186380529
Really? Doesn't the Basra 86 DLC include a Chieftain tank? I would've thought it could be player controlled, and the interior also included.
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>>186380548
>@rma
am retarded pls what is this
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>>186380450
Yes, SABOWman reporting
Steel beasts is fun if you wanna simulate combined arms, it has unrealistic tank physics, lots of shitty generic interiors, very old graphics, and no combat immersion. If you want to simulate tank crewman in a war, Steel Armour is pretty good because it is extremely realistic. Like unbelievably realistic when it comes to combat behavior or scenes. Having monitored alot of footage from real wars (mainly Syria and Yemen) they all look like the same shit I would see from a gunsight or a binocular in SABOW. That's the best thing about SABOW, realistic and immersive.

No, Chieftain is not playable in SABOW. Only T-62 and M60. We don't know if devs will change that in the future, they talked a while ago about making the T-54/55 potentially playable.
>>186380705
ArmA, I wouldn't recommend it because of extreme engine limitations
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>>186380924
>implying ArmA is literally any good when it comes to tank combat
Reminder you can destroy a tank with a 50. Cal because tanks in ArmA 3 actually have hitpoints
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>>186380924
How do I SABOW? As in tank and shoot stuff. Don't want to have to learn the strategy and unit moving parts of the game
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>>186378467
Just like when the F-16 hit a Uh-60
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>>186381275
Play the tutorial & use the UI my man. F5 is the driver, F6 is the gunner, F7 is the commander, F8 is loader. All have different keys to different tasks and the M60 differs from the T-62 but generally the M60 is more shitter-friendly in open-battles because all you have to do is mark a target for the TC and he will calculate the range and input it to your FC system and your gun is gonna be all set and you just point your crosshairs at the target, while the T-62 requires training to inputting range properly on the gunsight for different ammunitions
>>
>>186383546
Seems a bit excessive to pay £30 for a game that has so little to offer the customer. Has it got any replay value?
>>
>>186384826
It has 4 campaigns with 15-40 potential hours of action baked into each of them, taking place in different wars. It offers alot if you want to play a tank sim
It has replay value, you can replay the campaigns and implement better strategies (you are bound to lose your first ones no matter what) and you can play with the editor or play with the small missions that were recently added.
>>
Pretty saddening that the Chieftain is unplayable in SABOW though, devs are too busy with WW2 command sims now
>>
>>186385575
Is it completely unplayable or can you at least control it through commands and such
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>>186385753
You can command it, SABOW also simulates command through a map.
She's a pretty lady.
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Tankposter coming through
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Remember to deploy heavy smoke screen when attacked by concealed infantry
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>>186381124
>what is ACE
>>
>>186388902
Something that polishes a turd.
>>
>>186385104
How do you disable the UI like that?
>>
>>186380924
>Having monitored alot of footage from real wars (mainly Syria and Yemen)

Got any to share?
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>>186380326
>be a delusional slav
>literally worst type of white people
>garbage tier airforce
>best seller for shitskins and niggers
>constantly BTFO by superior western AF
>make shit up to feel better on a mongolian website

amusing
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>>186397835
Let's compare shitty soviet t-34 vs glorious superior germon Tiger keeping in mind the outcome of WW2?
>>
>>186399792
>Slavs trying to make themselves feel better by comparing themselves to the only regime more incompetent than themselves.

I'm fat and unemployed but at least I'm not a dribbling retard!
>>
>>186400359
>comparing themselves to the only regime more incompetent than themselves.
>I'm not a dribbling retard!
Kek
>>
>>186400704
Are you trying to say Nazi Germany wasn't hilariously incompetent?
>>
>>186400843
>regime
+
>(in)competence
What's wrong with your english?
>>
>>186401079
What did he mean by this?
>>
Eurotruck simulator seems to be relevant again.
>>
a new kind of combat simulation

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| religion of peace ||l“”|””\__,_
|_______________|||__|__|__|]
(@)@)**********(@)(@)**(@)
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>>186315180
shitty equipment realizms)))
>>
>>186386560
how do I play this fucking game
>>
>>
>>186406295
Great fight, anon
>>
>>186404354
kek

another happening in barcelona if nobody got the jist. some sand niggers at it again
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>>186407294
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>>186404354
>>186407378

back to >>>/pol/ nazi scum

mods do your job and ban these guys
>>
>>186409398
>muh pol
>>
>>186400843
So wait
>Nazi Germany Incompetent
That's okay
And at same time
>Shitskin soviet plane operators can't be incompetent, they lost because plane
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>>186409398
>>
>>186399792
>be buttmad slav
>get assblasted over how bad slav airforces are
B-but muh t34 !!!
Remember glorious WW2 !!!!

Da ! much better than the ebil nazis r-right !
>>
Does the mig 23 have a modern upgrade kit somewhere that allows it to atleast halfway compete with 4th gen US jets?

I think the 23 is the last russian jet we can ever hope to actually get ingame.
>>
>>186409460
>video games general
>post politcal shit

get lost retarded cunt
>>
>>186409501
>Shitskin soviet plane operators can't be incompetent, they lost because plane
they lose because they're shit, flying a the most cheap easy to use shitty plane

>nazi germany
>incompetent
>>
>>186409398
>>186409976
>muh /pol/ boogyman
>>>/reddit/
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>>186409976
If you say so Muhammed. Sry i hurt your feelings.
>>
love lads hate pakis just is
>>
halo czy są tu jacyś polacy?
>>
>>186409501
The Soviets were incompetent at making planes and decent military kit in general.

>>186410124
>Nazi Germany
>Competent

lmao let's lose the only war we ever fought.

They couldn't even exterminate the Jews properly.
>>
>>186410907
>reach moscow
>capture europe easily

>They couldn't even exterminate the Jews properly.

the holocaust never happened kid


russians and anglos need to thank the international jewery for sending in supplies and calling in fat ameritards
>>
>>186411131
>>reach moscow
>>capture europe easily

>Don't even take moscow, get btfo by farmers driving shitty tanks made by tractor factories
>lose all of europe to a British Army they had broken 4 years prior and American soldiers
>>
>>186411245
>farmers
>ruskies getting weapons and supplies from ((burgers))
>invading britain
>>
>>186411601
"WAAAAH STOP HELPING YOUR ALLIES, YOURE SUPPOSED TO LET THE SUPERIOR NAZIS WIN"

Pathetic
>>
>>186410548
>>186410397

>doesnt know that 4chan has multiple dedicated boards

you go back to 9gag, underage summerfaggot
>>
>>186410397
fucking /pol/tard ruining everything
>>
>>186411740
>gets triggered on 4chan
The summer never ends.
>>
are there any good racing games on the street?
like nfs but without blurry graphics and shiit controls/handling.
Im too used to dirt rally and dirt 4 but I want something with different cars in asphalt and shiit.
>>
>>186411691
>waaaah superior us/brit/slav
>soooo much superior to nazis
>nevermind the 3 v 1
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>>186412023
Forza Horizon, but thats not a sim.
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>>186412329
m-muh 3-1
m-muh superior numbers
s-stop b-bullying Nazis

fucking wehraboos
>>
>>186411972
>he's so new he doesnt even know 4chan has rules too
>>
>>186412329
>Start a 1v1
>Make it a 3v1
Who is the retard?
>>
>>186412329
>He's too stupid to know that the Germans had allies too.
Romania, Italy, Hungary, Latvia, Finland, Ukraine fought for the Germans, Japan was an Axis member too
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>>186412474
>this actual newfag dumb cunt thinks even the mods follow the """rules""" moot the traitor placed
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>>186412474
Then stop spamming faggot.
>>
>>186410845
Wilna nasha
>>
Why are you always shitting on each others guys ?
I like slavshit, i like burgershit, i like nazishit. Then there's shit i don't like but i won't flip my shit about it. I love beautiful war machines, i love facts.
Why can't everyone get along /simg/bros ?
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>>186413316
jak ci kurwa jebne to tyle bedziesz miał z wilna chuju. wilno polskie wypierdalaj
>>
>>186412730
>>186412420
>>186412859

>this much retarded

first off germany didnt start shit.
pooland subhuman slavs, bought off by jewish anglos started violence on ethnic germans near bordering villages.
go look it up, real gruesome stuff(beheading, rape, etc..)
britain and france refuse peace treaty and decleare war
russia plans to invade

other european allies had no or limited resources(romania) and werent of much help.

japan didnt help at all in eu
>>
>>186410124
>>186410907
Well those points are ok I guess
But why did we start arguing all of these in the first place
>inb4
>CAN'T LIKE SHIT PLANES, LIKE ONLY GOOD
I understand that soviets had issues, different ideology and all that, but arguing that liking a plane which is worse than counterpart is bad is just bad if you ask me. My 5 cents
>>
>>186413478
Because autismos my friend.
>>
>>186413593
this is a age old question
it's fine to like em

but i dont seem to see daily f-15 image dumps here.

it's always insecure slavs that have to start arguments like
>m-monkey models
>a-ackhtually this migger was good
>i-f if we consider ipothetical c-cold war scenario

they. always. start. shit. because. they. are. shit.
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>>186413570
>>
>>186412901
go ahead be my guest, post some CP here

fuckig newlyspawnedsummerfag
>>
>>186413872
Dude im slav and i know one other slav that posts here.

I never post mig images, because it's too much of a bother, and he doesn't either probably, because slavs are disgusting memers.
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>bump limit
Dare I say it? Is /simg/ alive?
>>
>>186414036
eh
i calmed down a bit now.

it's probably ok, for now.

i'll return to hate next thread
>>
>>186414389
n-NANI????????
>>
>>186414389
>>186414937
>>186414937
>>186414937
>>
>>186413872
/дa бoйз/ are know for baiting and bodied, just ignore them
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>>186051050
What is this? I need help
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