/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>183949585
There's a video of someone two-shotting him. One-shot might be a bit harder due to raw HP differences.

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>>183949530
>Which is exactly what 2 does.
Wrong. Chain aggro and the multitude of ambushes, for example, are not punishing your mistakes. That is just the shitter of a director falling for their own marketing.

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Post cute!

>>183949971
>having this much of a double standard

are you having trouble cumming again? is that why you came back for more abuse?

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>>183950167

>>183950180
>Getting blowin the fuck out
>Resorts to insults
Busted your bitch ass

>>183949971
>Chain aggro and the multitude of ambushes
Lol wut?
Why people always lie like that about das2?

>>183950648
Are you really to the point where you are going to pretend that DaS2 wasn't full of ambushes?

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>>183949971
>>183950754
>DS1
>not having endless ambushes and hoards of enemies

>>183949971
The only areas that felt like they crossed the line of fairness were Iron Keep and pre-patch Amana, that's it. If I got through the rest of the game with ease and a bit of patience then so must everyone else in this thread.

Also speaking of punishing mistakes the webm you posted is a prime example. You waited too long to heal so Fume Knight instantly cooled down and attacked from range.

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Alright, bully me.

>>183950167
Had a few pictures, so rather than posting them one by one I made a collection on imgur: http://imgur.com/a/c6LHM.

So my first +15 weapon in Dark Souls was the Claymore

>>183950893
>no pikachu ears or scholar's candlestick
it's like you don't wanna do damage

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>>183950246
>>183950996
Cute pics

>>183950887
There were plenty that felt unfair, even if they were easy.

>Also speaking of punishing mistakes the webm you posted is a prime example. You waited too long to heal so Fume Knight instantly cooled down and attacked from range.

The fuck are you talking about? I healed successfully in that WebM.

>>183951163
pikachu ears are an affront to fashion

>ywn have Gwyndolin laugh at you
why live

https://clyp.it/sg35qvuo

>>183950782
>Le the other game XD
Kys

>>183949853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4tMGwMkwas

>sunlight straight sword WA gives damage buff (don't know by how much)
>deep protection
he uses yorksha chime because it has the highest spell buff? I don't know how miracles and spell buffs work, so I don't know if this makes a difference whatsoever with deep protection
>lightning blade on the fugs
>power within
>dragon torso stone
>lightning clutch, flynn and red tearstone
>99 str, 40 dex, 65 fth
no morion needed because he's SL 187

This one is less viable because we don't know if you can 1 shot champion gundyr at a reasonable sl, even if you use morion blade. But it could be possible I guess.

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Does fatty armor really have a larger hitbox than non-fatty armor?

>>183951813
>DS2 and DS3 are worse than DS1
>because the encounters are the same but the gameplay is better

getting ready to play ds3 for the first time
are there decent physical weapons that double as catalysts? That was probably the highlight of 2 for me

>>183951226
>The fuck are you talking about? I healed successfully in that WebM.

Wasn't my point. General rule is heal straight after an enemy has finished attacking, everyone knows this. Some scrublet who can't roll properly would have died there as a direct result of waiting too long.

Alright how do I git gud with Gotthard Twinswords?
Everyone destroy me in a trade and the WA doesn't have hyperarmor

>>183952091
Shut up, game is garbage and it doesn't punish mistakes it's just forces artificial difficulty unlike others games in the series

>>183950648
it's not a lie, it's hypocrisy and a double standard

DS1 and DS3 gets away with bullshit because they look pretty

>>183952253
woah hold up we're hitting critical meme density mass here

any more trigger words and the general might explode!

>>183952253
>artificial difficulty

What the fuck does this even mean? The only argument I ever see is muh mob ganks ignoring that the other games are full of them too

>>183952091
So your argument is that DaS2 is tough but fair, except for all those ambushes which aren't fair but don't count because reasons, and DaS2 punishes your mistakes except I "made a mistake" and the game didn't punish me for it?

>>183952332
In ds and ds3 you can just run past mobes if something went wrong
In ds2 they actually block your path sometimes, so you forced to learn how not aggro everyone in the room
Different systems

>>183952240
use it like a normal straightsword

Lucy turns off his trip to samefag
Just how much pathetic someone can be?

>>183952542
form an argument that doesn't resort to "it doesn't count because it's not DS1".

You can't even explain specifics why you dislike DS2 other than whining that it's not DS1 and using vague terms you stole from matthewmemetosis

Looking to make a 80-100 Dex char

Should I put 26 in star or am I better if putting into faith for dmb?

>>183952759
I actually support him because it triggers sub humans like you

>>183952826
what weapon?

You need 40-60 faith for dark moon blade to be worth anything, so 26/40 sharp infusion with resins is probably best.

>>183952542
>So your argument is that DaS2 is tough but fair

No it's a fairly easy game that people whinge about because they can't pull everything one by one any more. So what if 5 enemies attack you at once, they all die in a couple of hits just don't be retarded.

>>183950893
Okay. Go to SL120. Take off Magic Clutch ring and replace it with FAP+3. Lower end to 26. Lower vit to 36. Raise str and dex enough to weild MLGS or atleast a flamberge.

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baka
he only got to kill my phantom at the end

>>183952960
Going for edgy char, figure try washing pole

>>183953134
The entire discussion is about the series punishing your mistakes rather than just having a bunch of shit rush you down or just outright cheating in general.

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Gaping Dragon had better be the most boring boss in this game because holy fuck was that the definition of tedious. Not even challenging, just time-consuming.

>>183953679
Nope. Not by a long shot. There's at least one more boss that's even worse.

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>>183950167
Cuteness is subjective. Firekeeper is eternal.

>>183949971
>multitude of ambushes
Don't pretend like ambushes weren't an integral part of Souls combat since Demon's Souls. Fuck, the first sequence in 1-1 already has Dreglings ambushing you from behind those barricades.

Why is it that the most defense you can have is around 33% absorption?

You'd think it would get to 50 at least with the heavier armors.

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I haven't played Dark Souls 3 since launch. Is it worth coming back for the DLC and the balance changes? Do longswords still outclass literally every other 1hand weapon? Is poise still worthless?

>>183954979
Because Miyazaki was raped by a man cosplaying as Havel and ever since he's hated heavy armor and poise with a passion.

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>play during European time
>ganksquads
>no fun allowed
>salty messages, even when 4v1'ing
>literal children screaming in their mics
>90% is a melee build

>American time
>fun cosplays
>confident players, often letting you 1v1
>just a lot of random little things, people take the game a lot less serious
>much more creative approaches to invading and co-oping
>many hybrid or even pure caster builds

I'm European myself btw.

>>183954979
Absorption means fuck all anyway

>>183954987
>Do longswords still outclass literally every other 1hand weapon?
Yes, but not by a huge amount anymore

>Is poise still worthless?
Nope, it's the main way to play anything larger than a longsword.

> Is it worth coming back for the DLC and the balance changes?
That's up to you. The PvP is not (and will never be) very competitive or deep. It's still just ganksquads and a shitty half-assed arena mode. The DLC has a lot of good weapons and spells, and +3 rings, so if you do seriously play the pvp (don't) you basically need the DLC. Bosses in the DLC are good but it's a mixed bag, definitely not as good as previous game's DLC.

>>183954987
>Worth coming back for DLC
DLC1 was medoicre at best, DLC2 is pretty gud, worth playing.
>Straightsword still OP
Yes
>Poise
It's not DS1 poise, but it's... functional now, on certain weapons anyway.

>>183954987
>is poise still worthless?
Poise /super armor got balanced after AoA and it made weapon classes like hammers useful. Refined infusion has been nerfed

>>183955128
Honestly no matter what time I play it's all shitters, all the time. Bad cosplays, 'funny' faces, password havelmonsters literally clearing the level while the host sits at the bonfire, summoners, the occasional ganksquad.

European or American, no exceptions. It's ALL shitters.

Now that DaS3 is released, is linking the first flame considered the one true, canon ending to DaS? Since the Kaathe path in DaS is akin to the Usurper ending in DaS3, and we assume that the usurper ending is the true ending to the dark souls series, then that implies that Kaathe has never before achieved his ambition of letting the dark take over.

I know this is retroactively applying reasoning to something to which the devs never considered at the time of making DaS, but its the best we can do. Especially when its implied that we never killed Gwyndolin in DaS and he survived up until the events of DaS3.

Following this line of logic, and considering the Firekeeper's words at the end of the "End of Fire" ending. Could it be implied that the "End of Fire" is not actually an end, but a reset to the world, waiting for the First flame to pop up again?

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Will there ever be a game released that will be as good or even better than the original Darksouls?

>>183955631
Bloodborne 2

the DLC for Bloodborne 1 is also on a equal level of quality compared to the first half of Dark Souls 1, IMO

>>183955631
Bloodborne.

Why can Reds attack one another in invasions? Just for trolling purposes?

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>>183953643
And getting rushed down by a bunch of shit is a direct consequence of trying to faceroll groups of mobs. See pic - base adaptability, shit weapons, multiple NG+ bosses, die to everything in one hit and STILL the game didn't feel cheap.

It punishes the #1 mistake players make throughout, lack of patience.

>breezing through Blighttown
>find way behind red tentacle monstrosity
>this must be the weak point, right?
>it's immune to damage from that angle
>it twerks its ass and one-shots me
Magnificent design.

>>183955936
>And getting rushed down by a bunch of shit is a direct consequence of trying to faceroll groups of mobs.

Wrong. Nothing you can do except face roll them when you get shoved into an ambush or they chain aggro.

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>GS Hyperarmor
>Greatclub R2 move-set
>Halberd R1 move-set
>Standard Dark damage
>Faith and Strenght scaling
>Buffable
>Perseverance WA
>Bloodletter force WA
>Allahu akbar WA
>first WA L2 has a 100% chance to stun

What the hell were they thinking?

>>183955779
>BB2

Maybe in 2020 as a side project, assuming the company is still around.

>>183955631
there are probably 10-15 games released every year better than the original dark souls

Dark Souls isn't even that good, it's not From's best game, it's not the best game of 2011. And until it was released on PC it wasn't even From's most successful game

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>>183956435
still can't beat old in and out from a proper dex fag

>>183956435
bandai told them to add more reasons to buy the DLC since AoA sales were disappointing

>>183956949
proper dexfags don't exist, though.

>>183957131
i exist, i'll fuck you up ese

when I say I love DS1 I mean "I love everything in the first half plus the archives, and I love that I get to skip the depths and most of blighttown every playthrough

I hate most of the rest of the game, I'm not even that fond of AotA

hi casual fan here

is dark souls 2 fully canon and integrated into the lore of 1 and 3, or is it the odd one out?

i've done a lot of playthroughs of 1, beaten 2 just once, and as i'm going through 3 i'm seeing callbacks to 1 but none to 2

>>183957448
>skipping depths/blighttown

if they were going to make it optional with the master key they should have at least put some good loot there. what's even worth getting aside from the ember right at the start?

>>183957448
I've never met anyone who doesn't think the quality gets dropped after beating Kenan & Kel.

I hate Lost Izalith more than I hate having diabeetus.
I hate New Londo almost as much.

>>183957736
It's fully canon and integrated.

The main reason DaS3 is written the way it is, is because it's the definition of "playing it safe," and the surefire way of doing that is by referencing the first game as much as possible.

>>183957992
do we know when and where it takes place relative to 2?

i figure it's safe to assume it happens after 1?

>>183957736
this
>>183957992

>>183957736
Most of it is more or less canon and you're right that it doesn't get nearly as many "dude remember this thing"s as DS1 does, but it's canon. Any inconsistencies, like the great souls being incarnation of the lord souls, can be chalked up to "le convoluted flow of time ecks dee"

>>183958085
The games take place in this order
1-2-3

>>183957913
Spider Shield, Fire Keeper Soul, and iaito

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Anyone know the slider for this cutie?

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Why do we keep playing these games if they're so badly designed and written?

>>183957736
it's canon but the overarching plot is more of a story within the universe as opposed to 1 & 3 being directly about the universe.

aldia is really the only character with strong ties to the flame cycle.

>>183955628
Dark Souls 3 threw out any notion of a unified canon in the games by bringing back characters and locations in ways that made no sense. DS2 did that to some extent, but it was always on a separate continent so there was some plausible deniability that it was just a reference, not an actual canon re-occurance. DS3 straight-up re-uses locations though so you can't create a single canon.

Now it's best to think of each game as their own story, with loosely related themes and ideas between them.

>>183957736
See above. DS1 and DS2 are their own separate stories but they share some themes and ideas (like the 4 lord souls). DS3's lore is sort of a "what iff" scenario using characters and locations from DS1, but does a lot that violates DS1's story and makes no sense if it were to be an actual sequel.

>>183958389
Heard the sliders differ from platform so mines on ps4

>>183958389
No, stop asking. The guy who posted it probably doesn't browse /dsg/ anymore, and there are better sliders if you bother looking or trying.

>>183958410
Because they occupy their own niche and no other copycat has succeeded in doing it better.

>>183958410
because there aren't any other games in its niche
what other action RPGs let me use a rapier, or a halberd, and have a moveset that actually fucking makes sense for a rapier or halberd

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>>183958410
Because it's the closest I'll get to a decent Berserk game.

>tfw Berserk Souls would sell gangbusters but any adaptation of Berserk into another form of media is cursed to fail

>>183958675
Alright then bitch, just axing.

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>>183958771
no joke this is why i started playing

you wouldn't even have to change much to pass off DaS1 as a story taking place in the same world but way later or something

anor londo could be post-fade falconia, etc

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Bosses you thought you'd die alot but turned out to be a pushover?

>>183959149
I heard so much shit about O&S and then unceremoniously beat them on my third or fourth try. Didn't summon, wasn't over-leveled or over-geared, nothing. I just got a feel for pre-dodging Smough's shit coming in from off-screen while focusing Ornstein and that was that. Maybe it was just a lucky run but whatever.

>>183958085
It's reasonably safe to assume that both 2 and 3 take place after 1, and there's a few things that suggest 3 takes place after 2 but it's less certain.

>>183959149
champion gundyr
Yeah, he's fast and attacks a lot but he also has very reliable openings where you can get an attack in. Don't be greedy, l2roll, if you can parry even better but he's still easy if you know dark souls fundamentals.

>>183959298
But who did you kill first

That is the real question

>>183955128
you're not surprised by that at all are you?

I'm finally getting around to the DS3 DLC, but I want to do all the NPC quests I fucked up on before. Is there a good guide for that? The checklist in the OP seems good, but it doesn't cover anything in order.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-04-dark-souls-3-how-to-complete-every-npc-quest-in-one-playthrough-4045
I found this one but it says "there are a lot of routing variables no one knows about" which seems like the author didn't try very hard.

>>183959305
No, 2 almost certainly takes place before 3. The item descriptions on things like the Shield of Want and the Dragonrider Bow, and Gilligan's corpse in the Profaned Capital highly suggest that.

>>183955631
this man likes to eat cereal that has had dicks in it.

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>>183959117

shit
how do I fight Oceiros as a sorcerer?

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*blocks your path*
heh, silly invader...
your reign of terror ends here. I've spent my entire life training in the arts of 3v1, and you don't stand a chance. Give up while you can, as you don't stand a chance against my >1000 hp meta...

>>183959628
summon or use a buffed/infused melee weapon
otherwise pick something fast casting

>>183958771
Fuck "Berserk Souls".
Only playing with preset characters would be so fucking boring.

>>183958769
fun movesets but them making sense is a stretch

halberds were used to hook soldiers where a spear would instead be blocked. in dark souls you just swing the fucker around

>>183959628
as a pure sorcerer just summon or spam crystal soul spear for like 5 minutes while dodging perfectly

>>183959812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CszqUvG1HUA

From has done it before

>that moment when you realize that the DS1 special item animation was just a re-used enemy death thing from Ninja Blade

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>>183959553
There's dozens of 'em, bro.
>they've both got a fucked arm too

What's your thoughts on devs attempting to make "souls-like " games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5PdpsfINA&t=15m24s

dark souls 3 bosses thoroughly btfo

>>183959326
Killed everything with no trouble except Champ. Can roll, wasn't greedy but still couldn't get his moveset down. Eventually beat him by spammy luck.

Also didn't know he could be parried at the time.

>>183960125
I welcome it since From seems to be moving away from the series/"genre" and I like to see varying takes on the format.

I just wish they were better. Only Nioh was good imo, I can't think of any others I liked.

>>183958769
>because there aren't any other games in its niche

>People still pvp in armored core last raven 12 years after it's release

Bingo. From's the only company autistic enough to make games with that style of customization, combat, and lore/immersion. Other companies have 1 or 2 but never all three.

>>183960125
Doomed to fail, as they superficially mimic the qualities of Dark/Demon Souls without actually capturing the good points. Also they'll try to copy the visual aesthetics to the point of near plagiarism.
To top it all off, the term Souls-like is just terrible in the way Rogue-Like strips away any sort of meaning to the title they try to emulate. Demon Souls won't be its own game so much as the "First Soulslike" now.

>>183960309
The Surge could've been a good one but man they really dropped the ball on that one.

>>183960125
Should focus less on imitating the mechanics/difficulty and more on creating an interesting game world.

I bet CD Projekt could make a good Souls-like.

>>183960125
I thought the new crash game was pretty good

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>>183960043
>tfw no blacksmith father figure

>>183959845
Well, I mean comparatively. Very few games bother adding rapiers, and even then half the ones that do treat it like an extra skinny short sword that you swing around like anything else. Halberds are either used like a fucking spear or an axe. DS at least tries to make sense of it. Rapiers actually stab. Halberds can be used as spears, but are mainly used to slash and hack from a distance, and you're encouraged to actually use that distance to your advantage.

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>>183960517
bruh you just fucked me up

>>183960125
I don't want to discourage it because someone actually making a good soulslike would make my decade, but most of them have been shit so far. Nioh was the only remotely good one, and it's pretty contentious to call it a souls-like.

>>183960125
It can only be a good thing. If someone can actually do it better than Miyazaki, they deserve the money. And it would force From to step up their game and actually try to improve the Souls formula with each sequel rather than incrementally improving the game while fucking up everything about the execution.

>>183960539
>managed to live through what appears to have been a millennia since the first Souls game, and still smithing it
How does he do it bros?!?

So final verdict, how would you rank all the DLC in the series?

>>183959424
I just went through with that guide, and it does work. However:

You have to beat bosses to advance greirat's story. So that means after rescuing, you have to beat one boss once you unlock lothric castle before he will ask you to go, then another boss before he will die and you can pick up his ashes.

Same is true for sirris. Even if you "finish" her questline, if you don't beat a boss before engaging with rosaria she won't leave the game (and her items) and will act betrayed.

>>183960875
Having a drive preventing him from going hollow, being in relatively safe locations and never leaving like a fucking NEET, being a fan favorite

>>183960875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua0zMsDiAyg

>>183960941
Counting Souls DLC only and not Old Hunters:

>Ringed City
>Iron King
>Sunken King
>Artorias of the Abyss
>Ivory King
>POWER GAP
>Ashes of Ariandel

>>183961171
This but would swap Sunken for Ivory.

>>183960941
>Old hunters
>Ringed City
>Iron King
>AOTA
>AOA
>Ivory King
>Sunken King

>>183960941
TRC ≥≈ ToH >> Ivory > Old Iron > AotA > Sunken >>>>> AoA

>>183961006
alright, good to know. there's always ng+ but when the game released I fucked everything up on every playthrough.

>>183961470
Don't feel bad anon, fucking up because you didn't know what to do is 10x better than being a first playthrough guidefag.

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So was his baby really crying while invincible or was Oceiros just that fucking insane?

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Just need to farm for the Ghru Rotshield and my fashion souls will be completed.

>>183960831
>If someone can actually do it better than Miyazaki

The things that make souls unique were not contributed or designed by Miyazaki. He's just the guy who had the idea to make it dark fantasy, and was a semi-competent project manager. A lot of the things that makes souls unique came from existing from soft team members and was present in their games before he joined.

Miyazaki's contribution was being a good businessman at getting the publishers to not smother the creativity. He turned the shitshow DeS into a solid game. I'm guessing he also contributed a lot to the story/plot of DS1 (but not DS2/DS3) since Armored Core For Answer was basically a demo story for DS1. He got the idea for corpse runs from Everquest, according to some interview from a few years back. He might have also contributed character design work, since that's what he did before becoming a director.

The visual style of souls is all Makoto Satoh, software design is Jun Ito. Yuzo Kojima also had a lot of contribution, since he directed or did graphic design on most of From's RPGs, and was a project manager for DS2 (which is why DS2 looks, visually, more like Evergrace than DS1).

The WAY the story is told (Faceless protagonist engaging with separate factions, lore revealed through item descriptions, endings based on who lives/dies and NPC questlines etc.) is from King's Field and Armored Core and pre-dates miyazaki. Same with most of the combat mechanics, which are lifted from Evergrace, and Otogi with AC's garage system. Even things like Poise were first introduced in AC games. The invasion system is just a multiplayer version of the NPC invasions from previous armored core games too, especially ones like AC2 that featured asymmetric (split screen) multiplayer.

Miyazaki is a good director, but he's just one guy and has a pretty limited skillset. He's more businessman than developer, and the things that makes Souls unique are not solely attributed to him.

Moonlight sword or Dragon breath?
Hell, is moonlight good? I've seen it once and that guy jumped off a cliff

>>183962454
MLGS

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>>183962454
If you're a mage or pyromancer the MLGS is pretty legit. Dragon Breath is pretty bad, in my opinion. Too easy to dodge.

>>183962360
It was really crying but they removed it at the last minute because rewarding the player for killing innocent (read: not zombie) babies gets your game banned in the US and EU.

They played it safe and just removed the baby. You can guess he was going insane but all other signs point to there being an actual baby.

>>183962650
what armor set is he wearing in DS3? Is that soul of cinder's set?

>>183962789
Not sure. At first I thought it was alva's set but it very much isn't.

>>183962613
>>183962650
Alright anons, thanks
Now, is the maid dagger good at anything? can I make it work? it looks pretty cool

>>183960125
It can be done, but most people who have attempted so far make the game really frustratingly difficult without understanding the design behind the difficulty of the main games, and they completely ignore the world the game takes place in.

A good Souls game needs to take place in a world that feels like it could really exist. It needs to feel alive, even if all we're doing is walking around after everything has already happened.

>>183962789
The cut content Burial Knight set, it was eventually replaced with Vilhelm's set in the game files.

>>183962789
The cut Burial Knight set

The models themselves got replaced with Vilhelm's set, so you can no longer wear it in-game, even with Cheeze Eds.

Any tips for sl80 Dex edgy washing pole builds

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I'm slowly losing all motivation to keep playing these games, even BB, ever since getting the Platinum for 2. I was playing TLoU earlier, for crying out loud.
What's the best way to use the Flamberge? That looks like fun, and I have an untouched one on a low-level I could mule over. Could I use it for a Dex/Int bastard child of a build?

>>183963490
legion etiquette and quiet resolve

>>183963537
Low level Hollow infusion with rouge.

>>183962360
Originally there were files for him actually cradling a dead baby. And he did actually smash it into the ground to begin the second phase.

The censors thought that was going too far, so they just removed the baby itself so that Oceiros looked insane.

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>>183963889
Holy fuck... I had no idea they'd try to put something lime that, I wouldn't complain either way but damn, thanks for the nice info

>>183964214
From has always had depressing games but Miyazaki really pushes the limits of morality sometimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOOiB-NV3Ps
>that one time where From Software had you kill 100,000,000 innocent people and become your own hitler for shits and giggles, your partner humming a happy tune while you did it

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>>183963889
>>183964214
I've never heard or seen any files for a baby model. Please source. Even the Artbook doesn't show him with a baby in his hands.

>come back to the came to play again after the DLC
>still no dingy set

even fucking 2 got that part right

>>183964442
http://imgur.com/a/asN7Z

There are textures and a wireframe but they never put the full model into the game. There are, however, very clearly an alive and smashed versions of this baby.

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>>183964214
>tfw am too much of a pussy to hear the removed audio files of the baby being squashed
Am proud of it.

>>183964715
that tells us that it's an idea that got abandoned pretty early then
probably got axed by Namco
thanks anyway

>>183964715
Has anyone tried applying the texture to the wire frame to get a full model?

>>183964727
it's pretty fucked up
not even bloodborne went so far in its edgy levels despite all its talk of babies and blood
I wonder where they got the baby scream sound from

>>183965012
there's software for generating stock baby scream sound effects, and you can also hire voice actors for it.

>>183965012
Old war footage from nanking

>>183965118
kek

>>183965012
The Queen Yharnam boss fight in BB entailed fighting a pregnant woman, and taking the calcified remains of her unborn child, or a Lithopedion, as a trophy in the form of the Yharnam Stone. It doesn't have a purpose, at least not one known at this time, apart from acting as a trophy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithopedion

What's the SL for Ashes of Ariandel generally?
I want to do a Vilhelm cosplay build and protect my waifu Elfriede from bullies.

>>183951884
No

>>183965347
Around the time you beat Lothric.

>>183965320
Yes but there's a difference between shit just in text/not explicitly shown to having a boss smash a screaming baby in front of your eyes.

BB has more fucked up shit in its lore/texts, but the plebs probably don't bother with that bit so no one notices it. However, seeing a boss smashing a kid is probably a big no no for a lot of people.

>>183965347
Any time after being Lothric Castle, so SL60 minimum, SL80 likely

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>>183964442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6vCZdcp6hE

>>183964414
>tfw listening to Artorias' cut dialogue for the first time.

;_;

>>183965483
I suppose that's true, and the Queen's appearances in-game with having a bloody, gaping hole in her womb isn't exactly crushing an infant like that.
They might have been pushing it a little with her womb growing increasingly bloody during the fight though, and Mergo crying whenever the Queen took damage.

>>183965516
I wonder if they added the "Dear Little Ocellote, where have you gone? Are you hiding from me? Come out, come out, don't be afraid... you were born a child of dragons" bit of dialogue after this was cut or if that was still planned for when the baby was in the game.

Doesn't seem to make much sense if the latter.

>>183965781
Likely. That or their original intent was to make him insane AND show the baby.

>>183958389
SLIDERS please

>>183958389
everything to 255

running through my first souls game. starting with dark souls 2

should i clear that starting area with all the fog? or is that more of a tutorial area? also some more starting tips appreciated

started as a cleric

>>183954379
That's not an ambush. See Harvest Valley, where there's an area where four of the big fuckers with shield-piercing sickles all converge on you the second you step past a tiny but impossible-to-go-back drop. That's a retarded fucking ambush that is literally there because "hurr durr Dark Souls is hard xD"

>>183966682
The beginning area is purely for tutorial purposes. And you should go back and play Dark Souls 1 first.

>getting invaded by a guy using a bandit knife w/ carthus rouge and repeating crossbow with splintering bolts

AUTISM
U
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I
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Am I missing something here? I have 8 strenght which should allow me to use the MLGS properly while using both hands
ignore piss filter

>>183966870
Just keep backing away and chewing red moss while spamming Applause.

>>183966908
You need 12 Strength to 2H it since that only gives you 1.5 times your effective strength.

>>183966908
Simulated Strength increases by 50% when two-handed. This is how it worked in DaS1, and it's how it works in DaS3.

You need 11 Strength, not 8.

>>183958631
DS3 explicitly states that "the lands of the lords of cinder converge at the base of lothric castle," ie flow of time fuckery with multiple lands colliding into each other.

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>>183966682
>starting with 2
That said, yeah you can skip it. it's a tutorial and it gives useful advice if this is your first souls game, but it's by no means mandatory.

A few tips
>your dodge roll is your number 1 tool for avoiding damage, especially later in the game when it becomes harder to keep a shield up. It has invincibility frames that let you dodge attacks altogether. Use it. Since you're playing 2, level up Adapability some, that increases the invincibility frames
>don't try to spread yourself too thin. Health and stamina are important no matter what, but don't try to level up so you can use everything on your first playthrough. It's a lot easier down the road if your level ups are focused (like a purely physical dexterity/strength build).
>be sure you're upgrading your weapons with the blacksmith

Best spear for a quality build?

I'm using the plow.

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>>183966997
>>183967018
I should have started as a knight

>>183966682
Cleric has probably the most efficient armor in the game. Prioritize upgrading it, and you'll basically be shrugging off enemy attacks left and right.

>>183966682
You can go really anywhere, but some areas (like the area with the fog) will have to be revisited later. There is more levels to go to afterward.

There is no area in DS2 that is too hard for you when you have access to it, so feel free to explore as much as you want. The order doesn't matter either.


It's fine to start with DS2, it doesn't rely much on DS1, but it's the lowest quality game of the series so it might seem discouraging if you haven't played DS1 first to understand what makes the games good.

>>183967579
If it's his first game he's going to get his shit kicked in on the beach

>>183967719
Oh, I was thinking of shaded woods, my bad.

You can't get to the beach on SOTFS without a fragrant branch though, >>183966682
are you playing Dark Souls 2 or Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin edition?

>>183955779
Let them wait and release it for the ps5 so that we can actually get 60fps gameplay, and so From can work on other games since I'm sure they're burnt out on Souls/Borne games.

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The only really enjoyable thing about Darksouls is how it actually punishes you for losing. It's not even that difficult once you get a hang of it, but it's fun. In every other game you literally don't care about dying 99% of the times

>>183967387
Swordspear or Dragonslayer are both pretty good on quality, just as good as they are on pure faith.

Partizan is also equivalent or a little better on 40/40 than 80 dex.

>>183968265
Old games still exist, you know.

>>183968265
yeah that's pretty much what most/all fans think. Once you get into the old-school mindset where deaths actually set you back progress-wise, the rest makes sense.

More games are doing that better now too.

>>183968265
>it actually punishes you for losing

I wouldn't say that. You're meant to die over and over again, these games are about learning from your mistakes. Dropped souls and having to run back to where you were is a minor inconvenience.

The enjoyable thing about Dark Souls is how it rewards you for perseverance.

>>183968427
Most old games (thinking back to like PS1 days) either didn't punish you at all or punished you way to much (aka straight up starting from the beginning of the game) where you would end up just dropping the game. Dark souls hit the sweet spot pretty well.

are dancer's enchanted swords a meme weapon?
>pic related, it's my build for them; pls r8

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>>183968984
tfw i'm retarded and forgot to attach the image

>>183968971
Even older From games would actually punish you more. In the early AC games you could beat a boss but end up with negative rewards (less cash then you started with) if you took too much damage or used too much ammo, and losing (or quitting) meant not being able to re-try that mission, throwing you into even harder situations without any reward.

>>183969126
Jesus with that much AR you could just do 30/30/30

>>183969126
Yes, Dancer's is a meme. Don't bother with them.

>>183969245
It's three-way split damage. He'll be lucky if even half of that damage goes through flat defenses.

>>183969126
The AR is not indicative of their actual damage.

One sword is Physical + Magic, the other is Physical + Fire. So 704 AR is closer to ~500 AR split damage, or about equivalent to 400 physical AR.

So on 40/40/40 you're still weaker than CMW buffed sellsword or gottard's, which can be used on lower levels and more stat distributions, plus have a better WA / moveset

>>183969134
>he doesn't know about human plus

>>183969616
Oh, I know all about it, but it was only in the first few games before they replaced /got rid of it.

>>183969589
so they're acceptable but not optimal. i'm only using them to look baller anyhow

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Should I infuse claws with blood or not?

>>183970971
Poison or mundane

Would anyone like to help me with Irythill dungeon on PC ? SL 66, pass dsg. This place scares the shit out of me with all the jumpscares and stuff, and having a buttbuddy would make me feel slightly less spooked. I'm considering doing dancer&lothric before Yhorm because of how fucking much I hate this dungeon.

>>183969830
try going for backstabs and ripostes, since split damage is favored there.

>>183970971
Bleed is absolute shit in DaS2, don't use it. It's basically DaS3 Frostbite only without the absorption penalty.

>>183971187
Gonna have trouble convincing a guy to carry you all the way to Propane Capital.

>>183971187
one sec, you better not be a caster nigga

>>183971187
On ps4, would of could, iirc there's about 3-4 of those screamers that you pick from, but the greatest fear there are those godawful jailers.

>>183971187
That place is harmless m8. It's the area outside you want to worry about

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>>183971357
Or else what?

>>183971649
or else is gonna be two casters
sign is down

>>183971515
it's the jailers and the screamers and the goddamn baby faced things and how it never goddamn ends and holy shit I hate this place
>>183971357
nope, I just use the big fireball every now and then for a change, thank you kind anon
>>183971601
I know it's not that dangerous but I'm more scared going through this than playing horror games

Holy shit does a torch completely trivialize brightstone cave tseldora! The area becomes easier than prowling magus and congregation.

Does anyone know the i-frame and recovery frame count on the Quickstep WA? How does it differ from those of regular rolling?

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>>183971720
Remember they're more scared of you than you are of them

I think a lightning killed a cat
>>183971720
Sign is down again

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How do I make a Forossian without turning into an Albert cosplay? Return to their original form with their "nimble, two-handed swordplay?"

>>183972085
couldn't summon
oh well, thanks for trying to help anon, much appreciated
I'll try to grow a pair and rush through this shithole of a level

>>183971958
was a good addition, the walk back to freja is bullshit

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>>183972183
well anon seems like you are in luck, for some reaso nit won't connect now
If I get in I will drop sign

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hell yeah, sign is down
if you are still around

>>183972183
>I'll try to grow a pair and rush through this shithole of a level

I'm a pussy when it comes to horror games too. Some advice is to explore everywhere always expecting to be killed so you become familiar with stuff, managed to complete SOMA that way.

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>he hasn't beat every Souls game by using a shield as a weapon

Hey guys, I'm playing Dark Souls and need weapon advice.
I replaced my shitting starting sword with the drake sword as soon as I could and I used that for a good while until I replaced it with a lightning spear I found in sens.
However the lightning spear is starting to not do as much damage anymore and I wan't to know which weapon I should replace it with, and where that weapon can be found. Thanks.

>>183971720
Are you a gurl or small child?

>>183972572
Kill the black knights scattered across the world, they have a chance to drop really good weapons like a 1h sword, 2h axe, and halberd

>>183972551
>he uses shields

>>183972572
Learn how to upgrade weapons and what the different damage types and scaling does.

>>183972684
t. zweihander shitter

>>183972678
Cool I think I know where two of those guys are, thanks.

>>183972779
zwei is actually a skill weapon in DS2 though

I think you mean Greatsword shitter

>>183972603
Women are the bravest when it comes to vidya anon.

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>>183959629
Don't bully blues, they only try to help
Invaders
By giving free estus

Anyone else think ds3 did too much of the ds1 reference to the point of being too fan-servicey?

>>183973068
yeah, its the only reason why it isnt the best Souls game

10/10 boss fights, weapons, and levels, but ruined by shitty references like Anor Londo 2.0

>>183960002
Is that the old iron king?

>>183972572
If you have a weapon you like the feel of, you need to be upgrading it. Don't upgrade the Drake Sword though, it sucks. You might try the Claymore (on the dragon bridge), Zweihander (skeleton cemetery), Halberd (Undead Parish, in front of the church), Large Club (rare-ish drop from those big assholes in Blighttown), Gargoyle's Halberd (have to get a tail cut on a Bell Gargoyle), Great Scythe (somewhere in the Catacombs), or the Balder Side Sword (rare-ish drop from the sword-wielding Balder Knights at the top of Sen's Funhouse)

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>killing off trap waifu in the most horrifying way imaginable.
Unforgivable Fromsoft

>>183960875
Sparks

>>183973309
DeS's Old King Doran is actually a reference to Old King from ACFA. I don't think the Old Iron King is though.

>>183973153
>shitty references like Anor Londo 2.0

That really annoys you? Anor Londo is Gwyn's city of the gods, alongside the Kiln as the most important location in the Souls universe. It was pretty underwhelming but hardly a thrown in reference for fan service.

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Would you guys play a Souls game with structured small-scale PvP a la Guild Wars?

>>183973316
Fuck Aldritch, Lord of Noclip, fuck anyone who likes him, and especially fuck the Aldritch Fagful

>>183972572
This, drake sword is a meme weapon, I never understood why a bunch of faggots recommended this weapon.

>>183973153
DS3 is the most linear, worst customization, worst fashion, worst world design, has an inexcusable lack of content that was a step back from Ds2 and has the least replay value.

The boss battles and visuals are 10/10 though, I agree on that. The references do not bother me nearly as much as how boring, hand-holdy and linear the actual game is.

>>183973495
because it's the best weapon until you start gathering embers and titanite

>>183969126
If you want them to work, go pure dex at much lower lever. Fire and magic damage scale with dex for some reason

>>183972551
I would if both ever fucking dropped for me

>>183972146
16/40 or 16/70, use sharp gotthard's and sharp lkgs, maybe a crossbow, try no shield

>>183973401
I meant the moveset. I saw 3 moves from that pox giant, a hand slam, 2 hand slam and a swipe, all animations used exactly like that by OIK

>>183973421
It was poorly implemented. It's just a piece of anor londo, just floating over here in the corner, because reasons. It's not even connected to anything, it's just a nostalgia side-trip with a shitty boss in it. They could've done something unique, they could've had the whole area be built over the ruins of anor londo or something, but the way they actually implemented it, it just feels tacked-on

Is crystal flamberge guy here?

>>183973495
'cause when you first get it as a noob, it's pretty powerful compared to whatever un-upgraded shitstick you've been using. It's not worth upgrading, but it will carry you from the dragon bridge until you can afford to upgrade something else to a reasonable level

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>enter boss fog
>phantom is off doing fuck else and dies
>every
>single
>time

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Alright boys and girls, post your weaponfu.

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>>183974129

>>183974129
I like the Claymore, but I feel like the devs fuck it up every time. IMO, it either needs to be faster or hit harder

>>183974214
How do you make the Lucerne work for you? I can't get over the piss-poor range. Thing's got a six-foot handle and hits at straightsword range

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>>183974129
It may not be the best weapon, but it's my favorite.

>>183973893
Yeah like I said it was underwhelming. I'd have liked just a full copy of the original level instead of fast tracking to the boss room to see how decrepit the castle has become.

>>183974406
You like that phantom range, don't you?

>>183974267
huh? claymore has consistently been one of the best weapons in the games. perfect moveset

>>183974129
Love this fucking hammer, was able to use it even in more aggressive bosses so far(getting to twin princes)

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>>183974129
Pretty fun when used with a Simple-infused WA shield.

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>>183974393
>I can't get over the piss-poor range
u wot m8
It has an insane range and its one handed mode is god tier for catching rollers
use the overhead swing for range and the horizontal one for catching nerds close by

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Wow the DS community better than I thought it would be. Everybody keeps welcoming me and applauding my efforts when I try to fight them.

You guys are awesome.

One I don't understand though is the point down. Are people saying I fell down and died? Are they reminding me? Seems kinda redundant. Cheers.

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>>183974129

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I take it you gonna keep going on your own anon?
good luck and grab the fucking sword from the throne

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Thank you very much, tutor anon. I'll burn a candle for you or something. probably not because my smoke detector would go batshit insane but I'll find something

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>>183974129
Right here senpai, pls no bully

>>183974857
cheers, at least you got to onion bro and his slab

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did I do okay?

>>183974806
Point down is "stay down, fuckin faggot loser"

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>>183974848
o shid
I didn't see the mark anywhere so I figured you were leaving me on my own for now since we were pretty much done going around the whole capital, I finished backtracking with the keys and whatnot
I'll make sure to carve your name on Yhorm's dead ass

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SL25 with a +2 weapon should be good for Crucifixion Woods, right?

>>183974957
That doesn't make sense. I died. Of course I'm going to stay down.

???

Also I'm not homosexual and I live a pretty rewarding life imo.

>>183974949
Sure, if you completely change the pupil type and eye color.

Currently replaying DS2 and went for a sorcery build. I've got to SL100 with only points in INT and attunement, and a few points in str and dex to wield a light enchanted sword. I think I'm doing this all wrong.

>>183974991
That looks acceptable, yes. But Warrior isn't a very good class for Dex-Int builds, Mercenary serves you better for that.

>>183974806
souls fans are very open to newcomers but they are absolutely brutal to each other

>>183975221
Int soft-caps at 50, with 40 being the more conservative one if you don't ever intend to use Staff of Wisdom. If you've exceeded 50 Int, consider consuming a Soul Vessel.

>>183975182
That's funny, because you seem like an unfunny faggot 2bh.

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>host summons you just to help kill an invader
>invader wasn't even twinking

>>183975404
I am using the staff of wisdom infused with magic, and 65 int, but spells don't seem to do that much damage even with such int focus.

>>183974848
*notices bulge*
OwO what's this?

>>183975478
Drop it down to 50, and spend those points on Vigor and shit.

Make sure your staff is upgraded to +5, and infused with a Faintstone. Use the higher tiers of Soul Arrow, and make sure you have plenty of Attunement as it affects casting speed as well as number of slots. You'll also probably want Clear Bluestone Ring +2 and maybe even Southern Ritual Band +2.

>>183975478
Casting sucks in DaS2 but sorceries are the worst. So many enemies have high resistances, better off specing as a melee hybrid.

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Best Waifu

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>>183975686
>Casting sucks in DaS2
I'd like whatever the fuck you're smoking, because that's gotta be some pretty strong shit.

>>183975621
>Make sure your staff is upgraded to +5, and infused with a Faintstone
Done and done. My attunement is around 40 iirc, and using the ring that gives 2 more attunement slots and the one that increases cast speed, as well as lion mage gear to further increase cst speed, not sure if they all stack. I carry plenty of great heavy soul arrows, and a couple of soul spears.

Playing through the DLCs now, not sure if things just have high magic res becaase it takes 3 heavy arrows to kill a regular mob.

>>183975442
>host BC you home after killing the invader
>host dies by mobs
>host dies when the boss has critical HP
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GET SUN MEDALS WHEN EVERY PLAYER IN THIS GAME IS FUCKING INEPT

>>183975856
It's terrible and has been since the major nerf. Mobs guard against it and bosses are resistant.

Also doesn't matter how fast your casting speed is Fume Knight etc. will stomp your shit in.

>>183975865
Yeah, the DLCs are the three areas in the game where you don't want to use spells. It's the worst in Eleum Loyce where most things resist Magic, but you should have a decent time in Brume Tower.

Worst case, get minimum stats for Santier's Spear and infuse it Raw.

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>>183974129

>>183975438
>that's funny because you're unfunny
You've lost me. I don't understand your logic I guess.

>>183976101
I'm done with the dragon sanctum, and only got the Fume knight and Smelter dude left to kill from Brume tower, but those fucking priests cancelling my spells in the iron passage are fucking my shit up, so I moved to Eleum Loyce and I've mostly been using melee because I can just backstab and 2 shot enemies instead of wasting 3 fucking great arrows on one mob.

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Why is she crying? :(

>>183975478
Learn how the scaling numbers work. The difference between 20 and 50 int is maybe, at most, an extra 50-100% damage. But 50 int spells deal 3-4x more damage than spells that only require 20 int.

>>183975856
>>183976048
Pure casting sucks, but sorcerers and hexers deal the most damage of any class in the game, with clerics being damn near invincible with all the healing and defensive buffs.

>>183975913
chug estus to draw aggro if the host is about to die

>>183976317
I just attuned the spell that requires 60 or 65 int to use, and it somehow does less damage than a regular soul arrow. It shoots like 4 beams but even if they all connect it does like 150 damage. Maybe I shouldn't have tested it out in Eleum Loyce since things seem to have high magic res there.

Sorcerer here. I'm about to go from SL125 to 127 (ds3) so i can use a particular sword. Am I making a mistake? Yes, I PVP.

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>>183976308
take a wild guess

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>load up my old low level character after like half a year not touching this game
>actually get a summon via dorkmoon concord (never got summoned at launch, not even once)
>the host is being invaded by a katanafag at the settlement
>I hit him like once with my deprecated hollow+rouge build
>he immediately just stops trying to attack either me or the host and just runs off a cliff
>messages me calling me a noob for "using endgame equipment" in the starting area
I'm pretty sure the faggot was twinking himself, but my god, the stupidity. Do these people not know about weapon memory or something? He even had more hours in this game than I do. I've heard the brackets actually got stricter since the last time I played.
And even if I were hardcore twinking DS1-style, it would only be possible because I earned it by playing through the game on low level.

>>183976829
You mean Focus Souls? The beam hits multiple times if you are close up with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJSQajgtipE

Same setup as yours and this guy can get 1000+ damage out of it easily by catching people in the beams multiple times.

You can spice down any spell that costs more than 50 int to use, also, but you have a limited number without using bonfire ascetics.

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>use finger and get invaded by 3 phantoms
>expect a chaotic fight with maybe a few betrayals here and there
>they all just dogpile in a 3v1

>>183976889
>caring what some random fag says
>not just taking the fanmail and moving on

How viable are blessed weapons in DS3? For co-op and/or invasions.
If I stack it with the sun princess ring+ariandel shield, will it be any good? Or should I just use the lothric weapon enchant?
Are health regen builds better on low levels, because of the lower nominal health pool, or at higher levels, because upgraded weapons tick more often?

>>183976962
I guess I'll go test it out again, it seemed really underwhelming for such high INT requirement.

>>183975838
Patches is my husbando, get your own

>>183976285
Iron Passage contends with Horsecock Valley for the worst area in the game. Best thing you can do is try to rush the upper path, since that lets you directly kill the fuckers.

>>183977135
You have to make sure you hit with 2 or 3 of the beams AND the circle. They all have a hitbox.

You can see in that video when he only hits with one beam, he does 197 damage. When hitting with 3 beams plus the circle, he does 1000 because he's hitting 5 times.

It's a powerful spell but hard to use and generally not worth the investment compared to just chucking crystal soul spears, which do less max damage but are way more reliable.

You might want to try soul Geyser instead, it's basically 4 soul spears at once, and I think it has the highest damage potential for one spell in the game.

>>183956202
It's not immune. You need to keep hitting it.

>>183973482
it's all ogre now spotted

>>183956202
>it's immune to damage from that angle
Its health bar is not visible from that angle.
ftfy

>>183977175
Nice, a sunbro just helped me pass it. Fuck that place.

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>>183973894
I am here now. Rockin it yet?

>>183977128
blessed is generally bad, kind of ok if you build around it. Terrible at low levels. There are a few weapons that deal actual damage as blessed but worse than just going sharp and most healing miracles aren't easy to pull off in pvp. If you know where to invade and how to make your exits, it can be godly in invasions, you'll be finishing with more than half your flasks without going for ambushes/oneshots. Legitimate war of attrition

>>183976846
It doesn't matter much but I'm curious what sword you want to use that you need extra points just to use it that you can't get on 125.

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>>183976285
You need to diversify your build. If you have an enchanted weapon, don't even try to use spells in iron passage just melee the whole thing.

A good sorceror ready for the DLC in DS2 would look something like this:

>30-40 vigor
>20-30 endurance
>14-20 vitality
>30 attunement
>20 strength (or whatever it takes to wield your favorite weapon)
>20 dex (or wahtever it takes to wield your favorite weapon)
>50 intelligence
>12 faith (for lightning defense and basic heal miracle, which doesn't scale with faith, for when you run out of estus)
>17-24 adaptability (either 100 or 105 agility)

which puts you between SL150 or 200, about where you should be for the DLC. If you're below SL120 you should not be attempting the DLC yet.

weapons:
>+5 Magic infused Staff of wisdom
>1 strike damage weapon, enchanted infusion, for use against enemies weak to strike or resistant to magic
>1 magic infused weapon, for use with crystal magic weapon
>Moonlight greatsword (which you can get from using a bonfire ascetic on Freja)
>Dragonrider bow with magic arrows

armor:
>hexer's hood (gives you 1 extra spell slot)
>lion mage cuffs (increases cast speed)

rings:
>magic clutch ring
>clear bluestone ring +2 (bonfire ascetic on skeleton lords

spells
always:
>homing crystal soul mass
>soul spear (you can farm infinite copies of this with a bonfire ascetic)
good:
>soul greatsword or Soul geyser (these are your "nukes")
>heavy homing soul arrow
>soul spear barrage (This is as strong as a crystal soul spear but for close range
situational:
>unleash magic (if you are doing pure casting, it's a huge damage boost. doesn't increase melee damage though)
>strong magic shield (if you are using a shield)
>crystal magic weapon (if using your magic infused weapon)
>repair (if using moonlight greatsword)

>>183977520
it's actually immune to damage on the base / claw, it's only the wiggling bulb that takes damage. You can still hit from that angle, but only with a bow and arrow, which I'm guessing he didn't try

>>183978179
Nope. I killed it from behind every time I played through the area. You can't even attack it from the front without getting smacked by it. If you point your camera all the way up, when you're hitting it from behind, you can actually see its health bar.
You just have to be careful not to slip through it and end up in front of it, where it can attack you.

>>183978179
It's not

>>183977971
>Legitimate war of attrition

>Phantom has returned home....
>Summoning another phantom....

>>183962360
I have this theory that Ocelot takes over his body during the 2nd phase.

>>183978375
>hitting only the phantom
wew

>>183978104
I do have most of those things except the ones that require bonfire ascetics which I'm hoarding, except I've focused nearly all my points into int and atn. I remember playing a sorcerer in DaS1 and 2-3 shotting Gwyn with Crystal Soul Spears without even grinding just going full INT. Maybe it was just too overpowered in 1, it's my first time playing a sorc in DaS2.

>>183978589
>Acting like the host doesn't ever hang back with their double Estus capacity and 30% bonus, letting their phantoms do the legwork
[meme]

>>183978623
Your problem is that you fundamentally don't understand how scaling and the stats work and you're just hopelessly throwing points at stats thinking it will make a difference.

Sorcery is probably more over powered in DS2 than it was in DS1, but you have to actually aim spells to maximize their hitboxes and stack buffs. It's not as simple as "stand in one place, press R1, do lots of damage"