/tekgen/ - Tekken General

Daily reminder to stop relying on gimmicks.

Daily reminder that gimmicks win games

Daily reminder to bully King players with gimmicks

>>183869365
Play to improve, not to win. You'll win more in the long run, too.

>>183869258
daily reminder to stop blaming your losses on moves you don't know

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Threadly reminder to hopkick until they give you a reason not to

>>183869451
How is that related to >>183869365 these two posts are not mutually exclusive.
Are you even contradicting him?

>>183869451
No. I get salty way too quickly.

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>>183869629

>>183869519
I don't. Just trying to help people like >>183869092

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Please..don't use Snake edge online....i can't....

Daily reminder there is cheap characters in this game and people need to stop defending them

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>>183869841
Too late. I wish I could transfer all the time I spent on her to him

>>183869985
Kazumi isn't the problem. You just need fundamentals to play her (and everyone else) well.

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>Marauder
>1580 Wins

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>learn how to backdash
>paul suddenly becomes free wins for me
making progress feels so good

Oh, you are about to get promoted and your winning 2-0 huh. *unplugs lan cable*
Heh nothing personnel kid ;)

anyone else here play tekken because the satisfaction of seeing yourself progress from hard work and practice keeps you from killing yourself irl?

Paul is fine and you need to get better

>>183870237
I had that feeling early on, but now I've hit a wall and playing only makes the suicidal urges more intense

>>183870087
Fundamentals don't help me when the opponent completely torrents my ass off the deep web and snuffs any offensive I dreamed of having.

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Hey fellow Jinfags, switched to stick today, will take a while to adjust but can pull of most of the moves and starting to wavedash again

The move I struggle with the most on stick though is dash into db 2, 2, 3

I always end up doing a crouch jab, I can't adjust from the dash forward into downback, any advice?

>>183870327
it's still possible to improve, you just have to practice more. it might take longer to get over the wall but you can do it eventually. nothing is unbeatable. hit the gym

>>183870340
Yes they do. Can you describe how you play and I'll try to give you some tips.

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What character should I move onto after playing Katarina?

She's fun-ish but I think I'd like to graduate to someone a bit less unga once I'm better at the game.

if you use guns or projectiles in ranked you're a scumbag and you should be banned for life lets get a white house petition going

I suddenly seem to never be able to hit anyone with my launchers anymore, and I haven't even ranked up. Am I getting too predictable? like should I switch characters for a while

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Stop using characters I don't approve of.

>>183870364
press the button a little later?

>you can get a tailspin after Katarina's b11

Man. The followups do less damage but this looks hilarious to me.

>>183870927
Switching characters won't necessarily help. Watch better players, record and analyze your own games and ask others to watch them and give you feedback if you'd like.

>>183870237
>>183870327
Tekken and fighting games in general currently is my only raison d'être at the moment but damn, losing feels so horrible and hours spent in practice room are so frustrating and tedious that as cool as fighting games are, sometimes I feel it might not be quite worth it. The best thing in life is not quite worth it and you do the math....

>>183870668
There are no tips you can give me that could help me. I try to punish people and I try to stay aggressive.

>>183871354
What's your rank?

>>183870717
Try Eddy. Coincidentally I just made the opposite transition from Eddy to Katarina as a secondary.

He can be a bit tricky at first but once you get the hang of it, he's incredibly fun to use.

>>183871318
if youre not in a good mental state dont play fighting games period
you wont get anywhere and that will make your mental state even worse

>>183870717
Jin.

>>183871264
but like why the sudden change?
I haven't been doing anything differently but while I've been hovering in high greens for weeks, all of a sudden today I got 3 fucking demotions it makes no sense

>>183871081
This

Did they seriously nerf the ability to change the color of your panties? I pretty distinctly remember seeing someone wearing Lili's bathing bottoms with black skirt and white panties underneath, but now it seems I can't change them.

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I never thought I was going to escape Marauder bros... It feels so good

>>183871934
it won't last

>>183871934
>Kazumi
Impossible!

>>183871485
Does that even matter? Whatever, it's grand master or some shit that's blue.

>>183869224
my worst experience of the day was losing twice in a row to my own character to a person who had over 300 more wins that I did AND was a lower rank than me. I must be the worst player in tekken

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>>183871975
She is pretty trash in comparison with everyone else in the god damn game imo but I couldn't give up on my Tekfu

>>183871960
S-Shutup, anon.

>>183871978
It matters. df1>2, 112 hit confirm, db4, df1+2 and wr2 is all you need.

how do the arcades in asia work? you go and you can sign into your own profile in the cabinets? because i see people like LowHigh who play at home and is red rank but when i see him in the arcade he's Fujin

how many losses in a row do tolerate before taking a break?

I just got demoted after working all day to get promoted to vanguard only to lose 6 matches in a row

>>183872735
you have this card called banapass that you put on a scanner after putting in credits and starting the game up and shit. and that keeps a profile for you that you can access and edit online and shit from your pc/mobile. but yea it's totally separate from psn or steam profile.

https://twitter.com/TN_Trungy/status/890068709729075202

>>183872104
How is she trash? She has done pretty well in tournaments and is simple and easy to use.

>>183872848
that's actually pretty awesome. i wish we had arcade scenes like that here in america

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SOMEONE GIVE ME A FUCKING COMBO FOR LEO OFF A HOPKICK

>>183872885
Simple is correct. But don't you think being too simple is a bad thing? You got all these other characters doing their these crazy mixup combos and here us Kazumi's are hoping the land the same basic stuff. I just feel like with her, you really have to pay attention to your opponent before you can start actually fighting. Idunno though

>>183872808
take a break whenever you feel frustrated. if you're losing but still having fun who cares? if you're frustrated that's when you should play something else for a while or go do something

>>183872861
cool. i'm assuming this only works on jack, maybe gigas/bears? that somersault kick looks like it wouldn't connect on other characters

>>183872159
I do this already. This is what people block. This is the reason I am dropping her. Because everyone knows these tricks already.

Thanks for the advice on things I already know.

Paul.

>>183871934
oh you're that guy I fought earlier
you play Kazumi like a fucking gorilla

>>183873112
Jack is the simplest character in the game and there is almost always a few of them in top 8
simpler also means consistency. who needs mixups when you can just ff1 with Jack all day.

>>183873219
>tricks
You don't get it. If people are blocking df1>2 you do df1 into db4 or df1+2. If they're mashing or ducking after db4 on hit, you df1,2. Otherwise you can go for another db4 or a throw.

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>>183873112
>All those typos
I'm going to bed.

>>183873303
Who were you using? I panic when facing certain characters alone.

>>183873304
True that. I guess I just feel boring using the same 'ol shit alot.

>>183872952
it's very sad. arcades encouraged people to socialize, even as kids. kinda shitty how video games are now just play at home, even online only nowadays. blows my mind some games have literally no local co-op or versus play, but those same modes exist online.

>>183873545
Arcades are an unfair advantage. I'm glad they're dying so America can finally win Evo.

>>183873381
This would never work online.

>>183874027
Why not?

>>183873730
america has won many evos.

I really hate playing Leo's guessing game

>>183874189
The ones without Koreans don't count.

for that guy complaining about kazumi, Nin is playing her right now.

twitchtv/greenarcade

>>183869106
Does Miguel have good fundies?

>>183874027 >>183873219 >>183871978
>>183871354 >>183870340 >>183869985
Jesus christ you are negative

Is it normal to get wins as Lili having barely practiced her?

>>183875029
To add to this, i have played Eliza up till now And im doing well with her, im just not sure if i have learned to play Tekken or only learned how to play her.

Aight Kazuya-lads, what are your rage drive combos? I know EWGF, EWGF, RD, d/f+3, df+1,4 is pretty good but I can't get RD to connect every time. Anything easier out there?

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>playing with bryan spamming his snake edge
>after 2 rounds of losing I can block them 100% now
>bryan starts unreactable low soccer kicks mixing it up with his mid soccer kicks.
Jesus fucking christ, I just want to win a game. It's so god damn fucking hard when all this dishonesty is making me tilt.

>>183874263
yea that's like 3-4 evos?

>>183875569
ewgf, ewgf, dash 1, dash 1, dash df+1,4 S!, RD~uf
ewgf, RD~uf

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>>183874175
Because no one is actually that dumb to fall for it

>>183874546
Already seen him. I thought I could learn something, but he eventually loses once people wake up to his shenanigans.

>>183875118
My friend tell me this every time we play against each other and he beats me. All I say is that I can't beat him anymore because he knows how Kazumi works. I actually got him to yell in frustration tonight from that which made me laugh.

>>183875950
Your friend is right and it's a pity that he has such a shitty friend.

>>183875950
>too dumb to fall for it
It's a mixup anon. Have you never watched Koreans play her? df1 pressure is all they do.

>>183875950
You are not going to make it with this shitty attitude anon.
This guy >>183873381 already told you the basics on how to get to greens so stop blaming your character.

>>183875950
>waifushitters

>>183875950
you're not on a high enough level. if you think they figured it out, do something else. it's called conditioning. sometimes you have to take risks and party. it's how people get rolling death cradled despite being easy to break, or how people get 95% comboed by an akuma, or how the best players in the world get thrown 5 times in a row, or how daigo DP'd gamerbee over and over until he was dizzy. step UP nigga

>>183875636
All of those moves are punishable, with mid soccer kick being the safest at -12 on block. They also both have around 19 frame startup so as long as you're pressuring him with jabs or fast moves he can't use any of the three things you mentioned. Bryan isn't even dishonest, there's much worse characters in this game when it comes to cheeky shit.

>>183875950
What a fucking scrub

Should I give up if I always get hit by Kazumi's 3 low string

Before I realize hes doing lows i've been hit by all 3

Why the fuck cant you use Leo's military outfit with the officers cap? Every other hat works

>>183876594
They don't want neo nazis like you in the game.

>>183876104
I have to listen to him bitch about every 2D fighter we play so I think it's a fair trade. I hate when he tries to encourage me.

>>183876202
No, because they are boring to watch unless it's JDCR

>>183876340
No. She's shit and I will find a better character that I enjoy one of these days.

>>183876353
Pretty much

>>183876364
>Do something else
>Gets blocked because everyone knows her kit
>Eat a combo that does half my health

>>183876520
More like Salty Scrub

Did Paul's deathfist always do this much damage in older tekkens?
Like I just got deathfisted for 45% of my hp.
It just seems out of place.

>>183876712
>No,

then go do it literally every top level korean plays her

>>183876712
>I hate when he tries to encourage me
>I hate when people show their support
Kill youself you piece of shit. Or at least make a tripcode so I can filter you.

>>183876712
Holy fuck you're retarded. If you have this mentality why are you even playing? Go do literally anything else if you're this much of a defeatist.

>>183876767
Paul can 2 shot you with deathfist in tekken 3. It's nothing new really.

>>183876767
i think ch rage clean hit deathfist did like 70% in t6

>>183876767

It does more damage when you are close. Add in the counter hit and it's always a 70+ hit. That's why Paul is so fucking scary when he's next to you.

>>183876712
YOU are the scrub.
How can you be so deluded, this is incredible.

Anyone here ever play rumble fighter

>>183876862
>>183876919
>>183876983
What's the logic behind it though? It's not exactly launch punishable due to the pushback. Most moves like that have really big downsides or longer start up. I get you can sidestep it but that's more of a prediction.

>>183877510
I played it for about 4 years, fun game. Shame it was borderline p2w

>>183877595
Some characters like Josie can punish deathfist effectively with fasr and long reach moves. Chack Aris' video on this topic.

>>183877595
Claudio can punish it with almost 60 damage off a true combo string. He can also punish it with b+4,2. Not sure if everybody can do it. I think Lee's f+1+2 can reach it too if I remember correctly.

Sup devgen

Been having some difficulty connecting ff4 after his double ewgf starter, do I lose a lot of damage doing just one and/or is there a faster screw option?

>>183877595

I guess the logic behind it is that never let Paul come close to you, unless you can punish death fist with something big. I still hate demoman and that stupid ass ff4 or whatever that somersault move is.

>>183876712
You're literally retarded. What kind of shit mentality is this? Hell, you accept being called a waifushitter, but even a true waifushitter will continue growing with the character they like and eventually come to improve. You though? You give at the slightest taste of defeat. If people start beating you, guess what? You're being too predictable. Switching character isn't going to fix your predictability. God, how can you be so deluded?

man, this game is so frustrating when you first start because online is nothing but people spamming buttons nonstop over and over and you don't know anything about it so you don't know how to stop it

>>183875361
Doing well with anyone still requires your fundamentals to improve as you go higher up the ladder.

Paul
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>>183878737
URAAAGGGHHH

>>183878737
No pain, no gain!

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This combo is hard. I can do it with just one jab but getting that 2nd jab in for a few more percent makes me drop it.

>>183878806
is deathfist the most satisfying move in the game other than RDC?

>>183878905
>playing on right side
don't talk to me

What's going on with the Eliza DLC? Did Namco just forget they said they'd release it one month after launch?

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>>183878737

>>183879059
day after tomorrow

>>183879059
Harada says it's going ot come out in a few days from now

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Tekken 4 was special

>>183879081
btfo
how will Paul ever recover?

>>183879013
>Not being a snowflake

>>183879124
I wish they would learn to fix the issue with dynamic stages. Instead of just avoiding them completely. The Mall was and is my favorite stage in the series.

>>183879124
Man, as someone new to Tekken with 7 it's amazing to see how faithful the series has remained. Bullshit wall combo aside you could mistake 7 for a HD remake of that webm. Props to the game for just refining a working formula that fans love, instead of shitting the bed with something radical and different.

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>>183879087
>>183879097
Okay, I'll believe it when I see it
I want to get my hands on the vampire slut so bad

>>183869910

play chloe, spam d,f1

problem solved forever

>>183879225
Can't you see how clunky everything is in that webm?
It's PRECISELY because it was the first time they introduced walls.

>>183879124
>moving before the round starts
thank god they removed that

>can't view movelist during warm-up mode

WHY

>>183879251
My wife is no slut, anon. Watch it.

>tfw can't deal with mashers
ree

>>183879583
db1 -> backdash
you now have space to play the game

>>183879583
spam power crush and rape them on wakeup

>>183879225
It's actually gone through some pretty radical changes throughout the years. Never as big as the gap between the first two SF games, but you'd never say what you did if you'd played all of them.

Mishima

>>183879676
>try to db1 hwo
>get launched

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>>183879545
SHES A HUGE SLUUUUUUUUT!!

Way too many launch punishable moves in this game push you too far away making it almost risk free

There's no risk to just doing half screen ff2 with Heihachi over and over again because no one can punish me anyway and the reward for hitting it is huge

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About juggles...
For many players this is about the biggest grievance in the game, watching yourgo up and bouncing like a puppet while you wait for another attempt to turn the tables.

The problem with juggles is not the juggle system but the players, it's about applying juggles within a fight instead of making the fight about juggles. There is nothing more annoying then going through 3 losses watching the same damned juggle over and over again eating away at your powerbar.

Here's what you do... remember their names, and ignore them at all costs...

There are plenty of good, decent and honourable players who dont use juggles as their main attack or who try to sqeeze in a pop-up every chance they get. Treat honourable opponents with a decent fight and then you can enjoy a fun exchange fists and feet.

Dont get angry, the rage thing only works in game, stay focused and have fun.

>>183880397
rank

>>183880539
Good god, link the post please

>>183880713
steamcommunity.com/app/389730/discussions/0/1458455461476093763/

I finally made it to green ranks, am I cool yet? Any advice moving forward?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/389730/discussions/0/1458455461499238885/

fucking lmao that guy defending himself in the comments

he even streams and openly dodges certain characters live on stream, how is that nigga not ashamed of himself

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I hit Brawler like 15 days ago and havent played ranked since from anxiety

Pretty sure im gonna go striaght back to Initiate if I ever play ranked again

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The world is too big for you to control.

>The connection to the opponent has been lost.

>>183869106
When's my swimsuit DLC with tanline and wet skin options?

>>183881129
Fuck you! Where is Lei.

>>183881094
>felt the same way
>said to myself that i've earned the rank
>play
>back to blues

It will happen.

>>183881203
just equip shower head and tan

>>183881230
Geese Howard is order of magnitude cooler than Lei.

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>>183881261
Well I got into Greens with a 5 winstreak, i'm hoping I beat a Brawler and then have a promotion right away

>>183881330
Geese Who? Never heard of him.

What do I need to know about Greens? I main King, secondary Paul.

>>183881230
Back in the junkyard

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>DOA already have Tekken mods
>Tekken still doesn't have DOA mods
This is unfair.

So is there a best ranked search options? I have it set to the default right now which I think is +3 pref?

>>183881653
The system prefers people your own rank anyway so it doesn't matter that much what you search for but search for 4+ connections and not 5

>>183879124
That stage looks cool as fuck

>>183881810
Why what's wrong with 5? I get matches in 10 seconds or less

>>183879124
It was so bad that in tournaments they only played Arena.

how come nobody complains about hwoarang? seems like a total noob destroyer with all the crazy mixups. is it because other noobs don't play hwoarang so nobody ever destroys noobs with him or what

>>183881993
>retarded mixups
>plus on everything
>retarded hwos wavedashing at you like a madman faster than you can ever hope to backdash so you can't create any space whatsoever
thank god he's hard to play or else i might just quit

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Eliza looks weird without her horns

AAAAAHHHHHHHHH I FUCKING SUCK AT TEKKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEE
I PRACTICE MY CHARACTER AT LEAST 2 HOURS A DAY IN THE LAB AND THEN JUST GET DESTROYED ONLINE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW SHIT MAYBE IN A YEAR I'LL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT KYUS FUCK ME

>>183882089
>thank god he's hard to play or else i might just quit
Not anymore in this game. Sorry

>>183882089
>plus on everything
Have you even checked his frame data? Anything high by hwo is plus on block so just crouch or step his shit.

>>183882225
>I PRACTICE MY CHARACTER AT LEAST 2 HOURS A DAY IN THE LAB AND THEN JUST GET DESTROYED ONLINE
There's your problem. Spend less time in practice mode and play more online. And never fight against the ai

I keep getting destoyed by katarina, and Paul's big punch keeps hurting me. What do? I can't bait the punch because one backdash isn't enough, and Katarina juggles too easily

>>183881993
There are complaints about him in every single thread.

>>183882420
>destroyed by katarinas
you can duck after the 3rd kick in her 444 and punish from there
>Paul's big punch keeps hurting me
who do you play? if you don't play a character with a shitty backdash you really just need to practice your bdc, i struggled with paul until i learned how to kbd and now i leap at the chance to fight them because they're free as fuck if you have good movement. if you have a shitty backdash, try sidestepping

>turn Nin's stream on
>he's listening to Young Thug
is nin based?

>>183882225
>play treasure mode to unlock costumes
>play good enough that I could win easily against the CPU 2 rounds in a row and sometimes perfect
>nothing I use against CPU works against players

>>183882420
Kat's hopkick is punishable, get at least a jab in after you block the second hit.

>>183881993
There are at least 4 noob destroyers who are much easier than Hwo.

>>183882308
i try to play online when i can but it's frustrating and discouraging getting actually bodied by people the same rank as me. i do it anyways, trying to learn as much as i can, but as someone who's been playing fps games competitively and sometimes professionally for almost 20 years it's never taken me so much effort to be good at a video game before. tekken is hard and i have nothing but the utmost respect for good tekken players. and yeah, i know AI is garbage tier for practicing.

>>183882551
ai is poopy, you can spam fireballs from point blank with akuma over and over and the AI won't do anything about it

>>183882729
>didnt even see the air fireball at first
i was like "what the fuck was that, did he just juggle with a fireball?"
had to rewatch it to see the air fireball. that's fucking sick, where did you find this?

>>183882529
>>183882564
Thanks

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>>183882225
>against Kazuya
>do a move that switches sides
>his brain goes into disarray because he can't EWGF on that side
I'm a terrible person

>got stick today
>3 hours in practice mode can't finish the sample combos

Can't dash into db without pressing b for the life of me, hell dashing into any move that needs a back input seems really hard, feel like I might be holding the stick wrong

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Which iteration of Tekken is the most ground-breaking regarding gameplay mechanics and overall "game feel"?

>>183882857
this is actually a viable tactic. if you're ever at a local and you see a mishima player try to observe which side they sit on every time they play, then make them sit on the other side when you play them. even top tier players can struggle to ewgf on the side they don't practice on

i play pad and have a shit ton of trouble doing king's giant swing from 2p

>>183882896
This is normal. I took me 2~3 days to get used to my sticks movement.

>>183882897
Probably 3

>>183882896
don't worry about it, you'll get used to it. Rip used to be a pad player for years, up until around 2011, and he said it took him an entire year to get used to stick. in evo in 2010 rip used stick the entire tournament and switched back to pad for top 8 because he wasn't comfortable with it

>>183882896
Took me about a week to mostly stop dropping combos and another one before movement felt natural, but it's worth the hassle just for how good it feels. Have your pad nearby, you can even switch mid match if you feel like it. See if rotating it a few degrees on your lap helps.

>>183882989
Hmm OK, thanks anon. How much did you practice in those days? Just sucks to have everything else down but I'll keep practising

>>183881925
if it works for you great but 5 usually only gives me 1 person

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>>183882857
I fucking hate how the fur looks here.
It's a console thing.

Having a real hard time with Jin because he has no sidestep moves

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>>183882857
looks like that weird wavey effect that games do to the screen when they reveal a boss right before the fight. like, boss shows up, does a roar and as they're roaring the screen ripples like kuma's fur

>>183883358
DA
CHYEH

Anyone have tips for incorporating PAB and FLK in my Steve gameplay? Seems my opponent likes to mash me out of it most of the time. I'm not really sure how to make people afraid of mashing.

>>183882897
I think 3 was the first to have sidesteps

What is up with quarter circle inputs in this game? All other fighters I've played I've had no problems getting them, but the input is so picky in Tekken for whatever reason. Should I be imputing it really fast or as slow and smoothly as I can?

>>183882897
Tekken 3 is my most played Tekken to date.
Tekken Ball and Force modes were better mini-games than Bowl.

>>183883358
I never use mine as drag

>>183882897
Definitely 3, but the first four entries all left their mark in some way. 5 also deserves a mention by virtue of being the game where what Tekken currently is was formed, separating 4's wheat from its awkward chaff.

>>183882857
Surely people don't actually train on only one side, right? I mean I just started and my electrics are fucking woeful but at least I'm practising both sides, it doesn't make any sense not to.

Why is Tekken so disproportionately popular among Koreans?

>>183884154
It's too difficult for everyone else.

>>183884154
Tekken is the Starcraft of fighting games

>>183884154
Why do Mexicans love KOF98?

>>183884218
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/6iltaf/why_china_lives_king_of_fighters/

>>183883535
You might be doing the button input too fast. Most qcf inputs are actually attacks from crouchdash, and the animation needs to start before you can do the attack.

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>>183884312
>linking to reddit

>>183884361
>>/v/

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>>183883535
you've got a good bit of leniency for inputs in this game. make sure you're pressing d df f, button and not d df f+button

>>183884443
>projecting
>making shit excuses
Nobody likes you people.

>>183884493
The guy just posted a link with some cool information, stop living with this "/v/ told me to hate this website so I'll hate it forever" mentality

>>183884361
>>183884493

Jesus Christ I'm not even the guy you're throwing your fists at - because he linked reddit - but read the god damn thing.
Maybe shitposting about the simple fact that it's from reddit suits you.

In that case, he's fairly right to redirect you to /v/ if you don't actually like discussion.

>>183884493
the thread was a fine read moron

>>183884443
>>183884629
>>183884637
>>183884702
you guys have to go back

>>183884629
>>183884637
>>183884702
>stop hating reddit, it makes me feel bad
Are you people really this delusional? Do you actually think there's no reason to hate that site's faggotrocious user base? I would prefer to pretend it doesn't exist, but cancer will always make itself known.

>>183884832
worse than any redditor, kys

>>183884832
>stop hating reddit, it makes me feel bad
My post ( >>183884637 ) never states nor implies such a thing.

>Do you actually think there's no reason to hate that site's faggotrocious user base
Same thing.

>I would prefer to pretend it doesn't exist, but cancer will always make itself known
Your opinion on Reddit and its user base has nothing to do with why China is fond of KOF.

>>183884965
>>183884992
>a bloo bloo bloo

>>183884832
>thread with readable information and no cancer reddit memes
>automatically spouting retard opinions with no relevancy because you get triggered by a website
no anon it is you who is delusional.

>>183885027
you're the turbo sperg crying about a reddit link answering the question
fuck off

Stop replying to /v/ shitposters
PLEASE

>muh reddit boogeyman
Leave this shit in /fgg/

>>183885041
>>183885067
>wah wah wah
It's not a meme, nobody likes you.

>>183882529
>you can duck after the 3rd kick in her 444 and punish from there

Not true, 444 jails.

Kat is still shit though

Why do people still think this place is some secret club

This place IS Reddit except you're anonymous and won't get banned for calling some idiot a Nigger

>>183878905
Try the better combo

b+4, 2 ff(RD), f+3, ff+4, b+3, f+2, b+4,2.

You can substitute the end after the b+3 with f+2,1,1+2. That can floor break on areas that enable it.

lmaoing at these literal /v/ escapees crying about a reddit link

>>183883358

UF + 1 or +2 and omen/cds 2 both have integrated sidesteps I think.

Why is this always the worst time of day to post here? Every goddamn day it's some retarded argument between a shithead and a faggot about something that isn't video games. We aren't getting rid of the redditors and they're never going to stop advertising what they are, the sooner you understand that the sooner you can go back to calling them stupid faggots like you would anyone else, pissing and moaning won't fix anything. This isn't /a/, mods don't care about that shit here.

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hey guys can we have some nice and healthy discussions to steer the thread from shitposting

I think Dragunov is a bit overpowered right now, though he's not cheap at all and has barely any gimmicks. If you're losing to him, you're being outplayed or simply falling for his iWR2 game

>>183885623
>waaah: the post
shutup faggot

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>>183885027
>>183885159
>>183885662

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>>183885292
>444 jails
>

>>183885662
See? This is what I was talking about. This is obviously some shitass from reddit, but it's not constructive at all to tell him to go back because, being a shitass, he'll just act like an even bigger cunt than he would otherwise.

>>183885304
thanks. that's 7 more damage than their sample combo. and also easier to land apparently. tested on ling who I think is the lightest/smallest character in game so should work on all. thanks!

>>183884832
Lmao, get a load of this edgy shit head

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>Tfw beat a Conqueror Jin as a Brawler King, coming back from 2-0
Perhaps my proudest Tekken moment to date

>>183885872
what's a conqueror

>>183885809
>waaaah part 2: im a big ass strawmanning baby edition

>>183885902
Yellow or gold or whatever. Really tough, I was lucky to win it. Was pretty horrified when I landed my spinny throwchain starter and he got off it immediately.

>>183885796
That's 4444, not 444.

You said 444 and specifically stated the 3rd hit is duckable
But then you upload a webm of 4444 and the 4th hit being duckable lol

Like I said 444 jails.

>>183885872
Nice one anon, keep up the good work

>>183885975
You might be retarded, read his post again

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>>183885914
>he'll just act like an even bigger cunt
Thanks for being such a great example.

>>183885975
>you can duck after the 3rd kick
>after
>AFTER
?

>>183885809

These days I'm not quite sure where all these idiots come from, they might even be from here but we used to be funnier I thought.

>>183885914

Are you from reddit? Honest question.

>>183885809
>>183885623
You suffer from cognitive dissonance. This is not what is happening, not at all.
Read the first interactions that started this inane argument.

>>183886048
>waaah the 3rd: anon keeps replying

>>183886105
dont even know how their reply system works tbqh

PC T7 online is horrid. any better on PS4?

>>183886216
worse

feelsbad

>>183886216
yes

>>183886216
PC is getting all the updates that PS4 has tomorrow.

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Get me out of green ranks dammit.

>>183886170

Fair enough, guess I jumped on that boat far too early.

>>183886041
>>183886071

Okay

I'm a retard

>>183886346
*in 2 days

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Who are the characters you guys come across most online?

I'm low rank and swimming in Jins, Hwoarangs, Leos and Lilis with a pinch of Law

>>183886105
The number of visitors has doubled over the last two years, due in no small part to the election. /pol/ got hit the hardest, but it shouldn't be surprising that obnoxious normalfaggotry bled onto other boards. Note how "normie" has become common when people who used it prior to 2016 got shit on and told to fuck off to /soc/ and /r9k/.

>>183886127
>it's the worst time of day to post here
True.

>some retarded argument between a shithead and a faggot about something that isn't video games
Which is exactly what it was.

>We aren't getting rid of the redditors and they're never going to stop advertising what they are
True.

>the sooner you understand that the sooner you can go back to calling them stupid faggots like you would anyone else
True.

>pissing and moaning won't fix anything
True

>This isn't /a/, mods don't care about that shit here
True and true. I don't get where the dissonance is.

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muh

I just spent an hour on keyboard (spent the first 30 hours or so on pad) and it's a big change but I feel like movement is much easier and complex inputs are much easier. Everything else doesn't feel natural yet but with practise that should change. I'm wondering if it'd be worth swapping though? I sort of don't want to just throw out everything I've gotten used to already.

>>183886768
>Gouki gets a swimsuit before my Kazumi
Fuck this game! Where's mah swimsuit DLC!!

>>183886916
Make sure you're comfortable doing backdash and sidestep calcels on keyboard. That's the thing that keeps me from using it.
I know about SOCD, but it still feels clunky compared to pad.

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>>183886389
>King
>Paul
>Drag

>>183887176
>Make sure you're comfortable doing backdash and sidestep calcels on keyboard.
That's actually why I'm considering swapping. They felt much better on keyboard, I can't do them for shit on pad. Everything else still feels really awkward though.

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We're so close anons

>>183887202
I honestly wish the pepe posting was contained entirely to the trash boards where it came from. Just seeing it in random unrelated threads like this is pretty bad.

>>183887334
That's Kermit you underage dumbass

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>>183887202
No frogs allowed.

>>183887275
Well everything else shouldn't be a problem then, you'll get used to it. I'd swap right away too if my KBD wasn't much better on a pad.

>>183886661
Read the first interactions that started this inane argument.

Somebody linked an insightful Reddit discussion on why China is fond of KoF - this is video-game related and related to the question asked.
Then somebody felt his hate for Reddit and its user base was related to the aforementioned.
Ultimately you came along attacking a strawman and misrepresenting a situation that everyone could see unfold a dozen of minutes ago.

One guy answered a question with relevant information then followed multiple low quality posts about how Reddit is awful, 4chan is over-ridden by Reddit users, and works of fiction on its user base and overlaps with 4chan's.

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>>183887304
DON'T

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Don't play the robot. Beat the robot.

>>183885872
>Beat Yellow players
>Lose to blue players mashing

None of this makes sense

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>>183887462
SOON

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>>183887596
Give her body an clothes back!

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>>183886943
>all female characters get swimsuit costumes
>no speedos for male characters

>>183887671
NO
Actually I ran out of pics of Ling, so here's one of the robutt

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>>183887805
>All male characters get a S&M "barbaric" costume
>no S&M suit for females

>>183887459
>arguments about linking to reddit is video games
You're a fucking idiot, and so is anyone who ever links to reddit and gets surprised when shit like this happens. Just don't do it, solves half the problem right there.

Playing on PC, and the game randomly switches to ultra settings sometimes, which causes a massive fps drop. It only happens when I change modes, like going from ranked to practice, never between battles. It always goes back to normal after restarting the game, but this shit is really starting to get on my nerves. Both ingame settings and the config file display my normal graphics settings, verifying file integrity and reinstalling didn't help. Any ideas?

Tl;dr: Game randomly changes graphics settings, wat do?

.
.
.
Bring back Lei

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>>183887874
whoops

>>183887983
grow up, underage

>>183888003
maybe you went into customization. that always fucks my shit up and I have to restart.

>>183888021
sniff

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>Aris cheating live on stream

>>183887983
You're so thick it's ridiculous.

>>183888150
>knowing frame data is cheating

>>183887304
link?

>>183888265
mid match? absolutely

>>183888150
the way he tried to defend it was really embarrassing

>>183888150
If this is considered cheating, that has to be the absolute mildest form it could possibly take

>>183888150
>complains about hitboxes being an unfair advantage
>now this
C'mon Aris, I like you but you're making this really hard

>>183888150
Its hilarious how people try to defend this because their favorite e-celeb is doing it.

Thats the PC community for you.

>>183888327
>the way he tried to defend it was really embarrassing

What did he say?

>>183888327
>mid match? absolutely
Lmao. So if I have most of frame data memorized (like you should), I'm cheating too? It just helps you learn faster.

>>183887440
Okay, thanks for the confirmation. Better start practising.

>>183888441
There is nothing wrong with using it in training mode, using it mid match to help you remember is 100% cheating

>>183888441
it's like using cheat sheets during tests instead of studying
>yeah I could have beat this boss if I really wanted to but I cheated

>>183888420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNAfVNaL9M
first couple minutes of this
>haha I'm so tempted guys should I try it I think I'll try it hahaha...

>>183883358
CHESTO!

>>183888327
Kinda hard to use that frame data to his advantage since it comes up so late. I'd say it's more useful since you can learn what's punishable. It'd be more cheating if it were a bot that read the opponents inputs and acts accordingly doing and they already exist for PC online.

>>183888497
>>183888563
So if I had printed out the entire frame data of the character I would be facing in an online match and be checking up on moves mid match, I would be cheating as well? Because that is essentially what this is.

>>183888195
I understand that you really want to feel like you're smarter and better than someone, but from >>183884361 on it was just squabbling between shitheads and faggots, not a discussion about video games. And if the person he responded to honestly didn't think that someone would take umbrage at linking to 4chan's bugbear of the last six years, he's the dumbest person here.

>>183883535
When i look at input reader in training i can sometimes se it jump from down to forward without going through the diagonal. It makes me drop Eliza's instant divekick alot.

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>>183888301
http://w11.zetaboards.com/SFxT_Mods/topic/30264963/12/
ctrl+f Spoiler

>>183888645
it's as simple as seeing a string once and knowing its framedata for the next time the opponent uses it

>>183888649
looking at printed out sheets and seeing them on screen is not the same thing

fucking pcfats justifying blatant cheating baka

>>183888497
>>183888563
If anything, this needs to be a basic game feature, it just makes things more convinient. Calling it cheating is a stretch, since it doesn't offer anything you can't do yourself.

>>183888693
no nipple no download

>>183888649
The frames literally show up at the screen in real time, there's no need to think, just look at the mod and punish accordingly

>>183888649

I think you'd lose if you tried to check that sheet mid-match anon...

Having the frame data right there on the screen while you're playing against another person is absolutely cheating though.

>>183888832
it should be a feature in training mode for sure, but not in online play

>>183888857
By the time you see it about half a second would pass and you would miss the chance.

>>183888857
Anyone who tried to use it in a real match will tell you that it's not practical outside of training mode. You don't have time to look at the numbers.

>>183888671
>I understand that you really want to feel like you're smarter and better than someone
This is unwarranted.

>if the person he responded to honestly didn't think that someone would take umbrage at linking to 4chan's bugbear of the last six year
Taking umbrage is an understatement at best.

>>183888150
Yeah this is definitely cheating. Idc how much of an Aris fan you are

>>183888817
I'm not trying to justify it. It just seems more like a very mild advantage to me rather than cheating.

>>183888857
>>183888868
What these two said:
>>183888930
>>183888996

Just whipped out my EWGF macro. I mean, why spend hundreds of hours practising perfect EWGFs when I can do it with the click of a button? The end result is the same.

>>183889071
it's not about the first time you see something but every time after that, even and especially during the same match
it's blatant cheating

>>183888150
That looks like a great way to memorize and learn frame data
It's not like online matches matter

>>183886768
>Ryu, a deals a deal
>you must satsui my hado

>knowing things you're supposed to know is cheating
I mean, it stops being a factor once you start playing vs people who actually know Tekken.

>>183889102
>>183889071
This is why the PC community will never be taken seriously.

>>183889126
So you would be constantly checking up on the numbers which could potentially disrupt your game flow, no?

I don't know, I just don't see it.

>>183889126
The thing won't help anyone with execution, spacing, how to deal with mixups and everything else that matters. It won't auto counter anything with the optimal punisher either. It's only use is knowing frames.

>>183889102
Because a move that good is supposed to have a skill gate.

>>183888003
Something similar happened yo me, i had the game on windowed to reduca input lag, but now it has switched back. But i yhink that is due to w10 being a piece of shit.

>>183889331
so if you didn't use it but used macros for bdc, wave dashes and ewgf you'd only remove the execution aspect and that's fine because there are still all the other components?

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Why does Heihachi seem like a direct upgrade from Kazuya? He has way more tools and damage.

>>183888497
Im with you, i think this is as bad as having coaches in tournaments during and between sets.

>>183889162
Shh, you'll piss off the salty fuccbois

>>183888150
ehh,honestly having the frame data up mid match is more distracting than helpful.

Using the frame data overlay in a real match is impractical simply because it only works in borderless and windowed modes. And by using that you're adding extra input delay thanks to forced triple buffering from Windows.
It's nothing more than a convinient learning tool, maybe sonyggers are just mad since they don't have it.

>>183888854
I think the brasts you are seeing is just a revealed ingame model.

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>played enough games to unlock all content

thank you turbo buttoned 3/4 auto-Kat, time to play dressups

>>183889470
Because he is.

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You should know how many bullets all the firearms in Counter-Strike have and how long it takes to empty a magazine.

That's why having an overlay showing your opponent's clip size every time you pull the trigger or he pulls the trigger in an online match is not cheating.

>>183889463
No it wouldn't be fine.

>>183889470
Because he's more offensive based. Kazuya is for spacing and punishing.

>>183889215
The EWGF guy is obviously sarcastic.

>>183889686
I don't think that's a good comparison.

>>183889763
I know, but I've seen people here seriously claiming to use trainers and macros because "learning is too much effort" or "x character isn't honest enough to play against"

>>183889686
What a retarded comparison. The frame data is something constant, unlike bullets left in a weapon. You learn it once and that's it.

>>183889686
what

>>183889852
They're tards, every community has them. But PC has the tools yo enable them sadly.

with the framedata overlay it turns into a game of guitar hero essentially, all you have to do is remember the frames on your main and if the number is higher or lower you know which button to press without having to think about your opponents attacks anymore. Basically takes the thinking out of the game

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>>183871934
Now you also can play red/orange ranks on their alts!

>>183889601
The person using it is at an advantage because of the color coding telling them which moves are safe or unsafe. Sure, they wont be able to react to it the first time even with the mod, but every time after that they will know for sure what they're doing is safe/unsafe.
Its a clear advantage for one player over the other.

Should I just spend all my time in ranked instead of practise and become one of those guys with 1k wins in shitter ranks? I just like mess up all my shit when I transition from a practise session into a ranked game. Nerves and what not get to me..

>>183890220
no just make some macros and turn on the frame data mod and mash them every time someone is -14 lmao! it's not even cheating because my bro aris told me it's ok

>>183889937
No it doesn't. You see the numbers and colors only after a move is complete, by that time it's too late to punish. You still have to visually recognize a move before the animation is over to react to it properly. That thing is not very useful in a real match and you'd know it if you tried.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ3zhFjGxZA

I don't think I ever cringed harder

>>183889673
Does that actually work? I want to get a specific costume but I probably won't ever drop it and I'm nowhere near 2k matches

Everyone should know they have the option to have this overlay in online matches or it should be outright disabled in online matches.
The latter might never happen since it's open source and the most popular Tekken player is using it, meaning Bamco won't bulge.

>>183890178
I wasn't actually aware they were color-coded. That certainly makes it seem a lot more advantageous.

>>183889538
What? No

>>183889618
That's not the point people are making though

>>183889686
Not a valid comparison