Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Dragoon is good, fuck you
You just have to wait and see Dragoon3 outdps Doppels

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>Dragoon 3 will get another dethrone nerf and Gae Bolg will stop adding hits
>meanwhile Lancer chads will get to keep leveling Crush/Quintain while getting a new powerful skill at circle 2

It's not fucking fair

Just let the threads die until R9 comes out. There's no point in making these anymore, there's nothing to discuss, nothing to do in game, and no releases other than shitty leveling events and pathetic weebpandering costumes being developed.

>>183513352
>Gae Bolg will stop adding hits
It doesn't, it just makes everything a fake multihit while adding a whooping +15% damage.

Are Hackapels any good? They seem like they should be alright considering they can use 1-handed swords but I have literally never seen a single one.

>>183513176
>>183513352
>>183513371
>r9 comes out
>dragoon finally gets a fucking leap skill
>is a complete improvement over the hopilite leap and covers a massive AoE
What will the leap do /tosg/?

>>183513279
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/412013
What did he mean by this?

>>183513564
Uninstall the game

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/bullies/

>>183513568
>he thins that actually spread Incineration
lmao

>>183513521
It's just bad. I'm sure they do fine boss damage, but for dungeons and farming they're awful.

>melee
>requires 2 weapons transcended
>shit synergy with previous classes
>small range

>>183513667
So what does the attribute do?

>>183513564
>>183513608
>the leap has so many effects that it crashes the fucking channel

>>183513838
It has a good synergy with Fletcher3 but thats it

>>183513948
Do you even know what synergy means?

>>183513909
It spread only the debuffs pandemic can spread.

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>>183513371
No, we are going to suffer this madness forever

Anime tiddies.

>>183513838
>dungeons
>2017

>farming
>on anything but corsair/thaum
come on now...

>>183513564
>Still does no fucking damage
>Stuns and silences all enemies hit
>fuckhueg aoe
>3 overheat
if dragoon is going to be a worthless buffslut in pve, at least make it good in minigames

>>183514491
You're sure as fuck not going to be the main DPS of ET you dumb nigger, even if both your weapons were stage 10 orange 315s.

>>183512850
What are those runes on the pink one? The concept art said pink in English, google translate doesn't understand it, and it doesn't look like any of the gookrunes it gives for pink.

>>183513564
Based on past experiences, probably crash the client

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>>183514329
big and fat

no niggers tho, not sure if good, she looks alright

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>>183514262
...Wat

That doesnt make sense. What the fuck is the attribute description say about it being used by pandemic?

>>183514731
You speak as if ET was actually challenging
what year is this

What dps classes are even viable for ET? I know clerics are really popular but that's about all i know. Any swordsmans?

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>>183514891
Are you brain damaged?
Go test it if you don't believe me

>>183515002
You're right, it's not challenging because all the whales that spend $2000 a month on their doppel's gear are too pathetic to give up and just rotate between different Chronos that constantly quit and are instantly replaced.

>>183515109
This meme is so sad now, it seems like it's just begging people to play instead of insulting people for their game knowledge. O-only a 25% drop-off compared t-to last time's 20%...

>>183515392
Nice stuttering gaylord

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>>183515469
>gaylord

>>183515392
ptg is a classic and cool maymay

>O-only a 25% drop-off compared t-to last time's 20%...
that is a boring and shit 'meme' tho

I heard someone talking that imc MAYBE will give one free reset voucher
is this true? lol

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>>183516295
They gave 14 to each single char!

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>>183516530

new vouchers!

>>183516295
They are going to add one soon but not free

>>183516295
They are going to add a free one but not soon

>>183517258
>Not posting the chainsword class in the real game

>>183517258

>mobile

I wish I could report you

>>183517258
>mobile
into the trash it goes

>>183517417
Why can't you report him?

>>183517537
>Note: When reporting, make sure that the post in question violates the global or board rules, or contains content illegal in the United States. Submitting false reports will result in a ban.

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>mfw I use epée garde + balestra fente + ataque coquille + préparation + attaque au fer setup for the first time
>mfw I witness my own damage with this setup

>>183517651
lets just call it 'advertising', that is global

>Submitting false reports will result in a ban.
never happened to me

>>183517664
>5 skills to do <700k damage
Wow

>>183517651
So you can talk about other games in a game's general as much as you want. Good to know.

>>183517664
is this some french gay erp log?

>>183517808
>Submitting false reports will result in a ban.
>never happened to me
This will probably only happen if you report something as illegal, because it's the only time someone gets off their ass without having read something that personally offends them.

>>183517965
>So you can talk about other games in a game's general as much as you want

see it alot here

>>183517901

you can do this combo in like 3 seconds or so lol

>>183515392
The funny part is that descriptions like this are so poorly done that often times if you worked mostly off the description you'd never get there, however some of them are so off they can break what would appear to be great builds. PTG was always a sad meme because of this shit.

Do you get attribute points when you rank up? I wanted to buy some points on my sorcerer but I never bought any, only to find out I got 400 points somehow magically appear

>>183519115
You never ever spent any silver on attributes even before the renewal patch?
Pre-renewal attributes were refunded.

>>183519226
I did, but this is a character I made a few days ago, I seriously got no idea where these points come from

+3 seconds of pain barrier

or...+48 physical atk (gung ho)

>>183520517
Drop whatever else made you make this decision, because it's inferior to both of these.

>>183520589

oh, I like restrain 10 and bash since I also play pvp. this is not a solmiki doppel

>>183518124
Dont remember what/how i reported stuff. I only got "you cant report now, try later" (3hours or so) once

>>183517965
>>183518430
Some of them get deleted, but maybe they also was dumb shitposting

anyways.. stop this

>>183520973
Put your bash, in the trash.
Giving up 3seconds ofPB isn't terrible for it, but that's 3 seconds you just will have to get used to playing around

green socket mage is the strongest mob in this game

can anyone paste the skills that shinobi clones copy please

>>183522930
>google shinobi clone skills tree of savior
Wow,this gets you the answer with the same amount of effort and not requiring someone else to answer you!

>>183515392
It's still just 22.95% for now, and the last 20% drop followed a 9.68% gain. Since we had a 60.87% gain this time, it would only be as bad as last time if we had a 126.58% drop.

>>183523176
>Can shinobi clones use cyclone skill from doppel
never change, reddit

>TFW no burst mage
I want to make something like thaum 3 runecaster and have shit blow up everywhere when I cast the damaging skills.

>>183523430
wiz3linker3
solo only though
>implying you even have someone to play with

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is this good

>>183523785
I can buy all this after barely an hour of farming my secret spot.

>>183523294
2004 milliseconds in google https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/shinobi-what-are-exactly-the-skills-bunshin-no-jutsu-work/340503

>>183523780
If a wiz 3 casts MM on a necro and their summons in PVP, do they get wrecked?

>>183524080
that's older than my grandma, what about murmillo?

>>183524263
G o o g l e

>>183524196
Why would they? You only get hit by 3 missiles at most.

>>183524196
Link+MM is strong in PvP or at least used to be but nobody PvP's on Necros and lots of classes will just kill you before you can do that anyway.

>>183523430
Play Cleric2Bokor3Sadhu3 and enjoy using Heal Bomb and Damballa with Full INT + Transmit Prana + Chapparition.

>>183524945
I don't play support classes even if they are the strongest mages. It'd feel like sucking dicks to get to the top.

>>183525218
Well I mean that's only the case if you're actually supportslutting, but you can be A1 from the start.

Not like leveling exists anyway.

>>183525525
A1? Steak sauce?

I hope they do another new player event soon, only 2 characters so far because I barely have time to play this month.

>>183525218
That's not a support build you retard

>>183526559
Yeah, screw people that have been playing this game, just make more new player events!

>>183521468

honestly, after you get used to bash it's hard to remove it from any build. it's simply too useful if you have decent aoe ratio to stack mob together. you save time, you save cooldowns, sp...

>>183526703
I don't cast heals. I don't want to hear people whining about me not casting heals on them, and I don't want them trying to walk into my heals.

Just started last night. Looking for some basic guidance for builds. Op says to not follow builds from tosbase so is there somewhere else to look? I didn't see anything besides calculators in the pastebin.
Or is posting here and getting blasted the preferred method?

>>183527382
almost all public builds at tosbase are trolling or extremely bad made by retards

use https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner and post here or ask your guild/ingame

>>183527382
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner

Skills are usually straightforward, but ask otherwise/link your planned build/skills and people will usually correct anything necessary.

>>183527173
This is genuinely the most autistic post I ever read on tosg

>>183527382
Actually, you're advised to not follow tosbase builds blindly. You can ask here if something you saw there is ok and how to improve it. If the build's author recommends weird numbers and stat spreading, then most probably it's a bad build.

What's your favorite class or gameplay style in MMOs? Start from there to plan your first character.

>>183527173
Just do what I used to do on my Monk.

"MONK HEAL US"
how much str do you have?
"im 1:1 STR DEX"
i only heal those stronger than me

>>183527382
You can use tosbase, but you should really only follow them loosely, and use the skillsim to show your build.
Most tosbase builds are complete shit. Earlier someone posted what might be the worst fucking build I've seen from tosbase, which wanted people to pump SPR as a fucking swordie

>>183528079
>not going INT finestra build

>>183528079
>>183528407
i know imc can be retarded as fuck with balance sometimes, but who the fuck is the stupid nigger that thought it was a good idea to make an INT attribute for finestra

>>183528407
>Not going full INT squire
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/10701
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/10702
How can other Squires even compete?!

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>>183528079
>she is not familiar with the new mechanics

>>183528623

lifeline!

>>183528754
Stop giving away our secrets asshole

Are healers pointless in this game? I figured i will play as one and got to lvl 100, but no one in this game needs healing. The few dungeons i was in last like 5min and no one gets hurt. You can also buy better buffs that last hour from others.

>>183531051
There's only one place where people take damage, outside of ET no one needs healing ever.

>>183531051
They overnerfed the first 150~ levels, things harder later.

>>183531380
some guild raid bosses also hurt

It's >>183527382 again.

Thanks for the help. I was looking at going either necro or sorcerer. Not sure which yet.
Was also thinking of going corsair for farming and just being a pirate.

Guess I'll go look around for builds and come back and you all can tell me how stupid I am.

>>183532637
Necros are basically only used for AFK farming, Sorcs are shit but will get buffed in the future.

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i just noticed that a diamond anvil is one of the rewards for the guess to impress event, but expires in 14 days...

is there any way a casual with no farming builds and minimal (~12mil) silver could gather the remaining materials to craft this in 3 weeks? there are no yellow caro antennas in the market and i am unsure about how frequently they drop.

i have nothing else i could use the diamond anvil on, and i don't want it to go wasted

>>183532897
I'm not super worried about being shit. I'm sure I'll fuck my first character up beyond repair anyway.

>>183533058
You'll need to farm for 40+ hours even if you spend all your money.
Good luck.

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>>183533306
are you pulling my leg? that's terrible. i haven't seen the caro antenna in the market all week either

>>183533058
Depends on who you use for farming
But definitely able to do in 3 weeks if you're treating this game like a job
If you only play like 1 hour or 2 a day then no

>>183534561
What server are you on? I haven't been able to play in a week or so but caro antennae are pretty commonly farmed and were going for 900k or so last I played. It's probably more like 25 hours if you factor in the silver gained from farming and maybe some lucky leafnut tail/orange grummer wing drops.

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>>183534809
>>183534573
i'm on klaipeda with no corsair/thaum/SR or enough funds to buy them even if they were on the market, i guess i'll have to watch the diamond anvil expire

>>183535067
Get to farming you pussy. There's 504 hours in 3 weeks, so you have more than enough time.

>>183535067
You can make a new account and level a farming build in a day with the new player event going on.

>>183535417
which would be the most optimal for farming dpk mats if i were to do this?

>>183535545
Thaum.

>>183536172
Thaum sucks for Caro since they're so spread out. Corsair is way better.

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>>183536172
>>183536489
can someone spoonfeed me a skill distribution for either of these farming builds

>>183537025
What sort of animal is she supposed to be?

>>183537025
I can, but I won't because you're avatarfagging with stupid anime pictures. Just google it yourself, it's literally impossible to fuck up either of those classes.

>>183537218
A rodent.

>>183537247
>every time a different character
That's not how avatarfagging works you fucking retard.

>>183537527
Argue it all you want animeshitter, I'm not spoonfeeding you something you can easily google.

I'm thinking about leveling a new meme build, but I'm not sure if I want to do something with Rogue or do something like Hoplite Shinobi Murm.

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>>183537247
is highlander3 for the corsair build okay? (non anime pic as to not offend you)

>>183538345
just b urself, literally doesn't matter what you pick as long as you get corsair3

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>>183537025
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21177aagg.3a.2a3a.1a3a65.2a416571
other points dont really matter

Full INT

can do Cryo1 instead of Wiz2 but that would be 'no meta', works fine tho

>>183538649
ops i clicked wrong once. sorry
(physical link sucks)

this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21177aagg.3a.3a4a.1a3a65.2a416571

>>183538345

sword 3 hl 2 is a good cor build
or hl 3 + barb

definitely better than hoplite

>>183538770
>(physical link sucks)
ptg
retard

>>183538912
He's right though

>>183538513
i read something about pillage proc'ing on individual hits, i know very little about swordsman and was wondering which would offer the most spammable attacks. so far highlander3 seems to be the best compliment for pillage but i am unsure

>>183538649
>>183538770
thanks for the help but it seems i'll be a corsair farmer

>>183538912
It does suck and i sometimes play the game.

>>183532637

Shit are necros and sorcerers really full SPR like tosbase says?
I dont see any mention of spr in the skills.

Also, isnt that going to be a bitch leveling until that point?

>>183538982
I made Sword3 High2 Corsair3, but I wish I made Sword3 Barb Corsair3 Shinobi so I could do decent damage on world bosses in the patch that's coming FUCKING NEVER

>>183539194
what's so great about sword3?

>>183539164
Necro is full SPR.
Sorc is whatever you want but I honestly think SPR is shit for a full sorc build.

SPR increases the CON of your summons and damage.

>>183539528
Retard

183539589
Not giving you any yous my nigga

>>183539403
Double Slash is amazing. Highlander skills feel pretty unnecessary because almost all my damage comes from Double Slash and Pistol Shot.

>>183539762

have you ever actively farmed something with more than 100k hp, anon?

>>183539671
SPR was literally reworked to be THE summoner's stat.
It acts as a multiplier to which summons' attack scale.
Anything but full SPR on a Sorcerer build is completely retarded.

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>>183539938
I farm Caro, what the fuck do you want from me?

>>183539938
>>183539762

sword3 > x > corsair3
or
highlander3 > corsair3

>>183540247
I know exactly how SPR influences the summons.

It's still shit in my opinion compared to a full INT build for pure sorc builds (no necro hybrids, sorc only).

>>183539762
What do you do to bleed things for double slash?

>>183540624
Your opinion is shit

>>183540656
*without highlander skills in a build

>>183540656
The bleed barely increases Double Slash damage, it doesn't double it like it does for Skyliner.

>>183540735
And your opinion isn't backed by anything except retarded bull videos.

Learn what SPR does to your summon.
And don't forget that we have the exact same SPR scaling in itos as in ktos.
The only thing they have over itos is weapon matk scaling.

Do sorc bats grow from int or spr?

>>183540907
You do realize INT doesn't even affect the summon's attack right?

>>183541180
>Ride the summoned devil from the Grimoire and take control of it. When mounted on the devil, its physical and magic attack increases proportionally to the riding character's magic attack.
>increases proportionally to the riding character's magic attack
>riding character's magic attack
>riding character's magic attack
>riding character's magic attack

>>183541094
INT

>>183541180
Who gives a shit about the summon attack?
That's the whole point. You have all your spells scale with INT, just like any other caster.
And do go and look up what SPR does exactly to the summon's damage because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

>>183541381
If you get a good weapon you'll do more damage with SPR than with INT

>>183541406
>Who gives a shit about the summon attack?
>on a summoner build
The fuck are you doing

>>183541381
Tooltips are bullshit. It's the SPR that influences the summons' damage.
It's pretty useless for a sorc though. You only have one summon unlike necros who only deal damage through summons practically.

>sorc2lock2
>all SPR
>+16 or above (trans optional if not main) regard horn
so this is the best sorc build? what comes for early ranks?

>>183541564
>summoner build
Absolute retard.

You don't even know how SPR even works for your summon and yet you somehow think that a full SPR sorc will deal more damage than a full INT one.

>>183541706
>+16
How many diamond anvils did you whale?

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>>183541815
ok ok +11

>>183541814
>You don't even know how SPR even works
Nice projecting
>yet you somehow think that a full SPR sorc will deal more damage than a full INT one
But it by far does.

>>183541625
>Tooltips are bullshit
>implying it's wrong
play the game

>>183542208
It's wrong.

>>183541814
Yeah, this is why the whales on kToS with +25 orange weapons at stage 10 use INT. Oh wait no, they're full SPR.

Green penguins were a mistake.

Sorcs have tons of spells with good to very good matk scaling.
And then you have one single spell scaling with SPR, with rather shitty factors. And retards somehow think that putting everything in SPR to boost that one mediocre spell is somehow a much better idea than relying on standard matk spells.
A single fucking shard from a cryosorc's icewall will do more damage than any SPR boost you might get for your bovine.

>>183542293
>+25 stage 10
At that point you can go full DEX and it won't make a difference.

>>183542587
>one single spell
>what is riding

>>183542293
Yes friendo, just build your characters based on retarded youtube videos without thinking.

>>183542721
Retard

>>183542804
no u

>>183542685
It would. Not a lot ofc

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I fell for the tosbase memebuilds because I haven't played in forever
can anyone give me the legit skill build for archer, ranger, QS route?

>>183543083
how bad was the memebuild anon?
was it as bad as the SPR dragoon one?

>>183543387
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/users/24013/

was following his builds for my characters and i've been reading around that he's retarded and doesn't know anything

>>183543083
>legit
>archer ranger qs route
Route to what? Suicide?

>>183543694
I meant SR not QS

>>183543521
Yes. some of these are fucking shit.

>>183541814
Full Int gets ~900 extra magic attack, full Spr acts as a multiplier on your magic attack. As soon as you get even a purple weapon SPR outdamages Int and it only gets better.

>>183543521
>>183543775
His SR3 build is okay tbqh, but you don't need any points in CON.

>>183544052
>full Spr acts as a multiplier on your magic attack
It's a multiplier on a final damage multiplier of the summon. And even with ktos changes it's still mediocre.
You can see how shitty the damage is in those bovine videos anyway. And they all have whaled gear.
Focusing on summon riding is just retarded when you have billions of normal direct damage skills with high multipliers (you don't only have sorc2/3, you'll have sage, cryo3 maybe, link maybe?).

>>183544052
>>183542293
We're not playing kToS and nobody's going to get a +25 stage 10 orange weapon either. You might as well lose 30k HP on your 25k HP character because you saw someone with 60k HP doing it.

>>183544561
>cryo
>sage
>linker
>high damaging skills
Ahahah what the fuck.
You didn't even mention the only class sorc can get that does decent damage which is Warlock.

>she's not playing with Thauma3Sorc2 to have both high SPR and high matk
Gee, fampai.

>>183544619
Why even argue that your stats are better if you're just going to say "LOL U NERDS R TAKEN THIS 2 SERIOUSLY" anyway?

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>>183544752
>warlock
>decent damage

>>183544752
What's your disability?

>>183544891
Are you being retarded on purpose?
Mastema is the highest scaling skill in the game.

>>183544993
It doesn't fucking matter. Anything sage has will do more damage than your shitty full SPR bull or templeshooter. Same for cryo3's icewall even without kino. And sorc by itself has tons of matk spells with good scaling.

FFS, you lose only 800 matk by not going full int.

Ever tried a intless wizard? It's almost the same. I played with my elememe after the last reset intless (didn't used nay stats point) for over a week until I decided to go for int and guess what, I barely noticed a big change since I have a stage 5 viena staff

the sorc thing is the summon spells, SPR works on their base mods so investing on SPR will actually multiply the investment you had on your weapon beyond any chance of int matk being able to catch-up.

Another reason is the fact that imc kinka capped sorc's own MATK part of the formulas to ONLY WEAPON MATK. EXCLUSIVELY WEAPON MATK will affect summon so that sweet 800 matk from int would get ignored basically (this also counts for hats and etc).

To end this... it's not worth losing tons of summon damage for extra 800 matk mastema on a sorc 2 warlock 2 build and some bats damage. int matk might look relevant on your total damage output when you're level 280 using welfare blue weapon, but as soon as you hit practonium purple +6 with squire buffs, even at stage 3 you'll see the big difference that spr does.

Tryhard koreans even abuses snapshot before summoning using skull smasher+sage wall just for that extra gain and then switch to regard horn staff

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>>183541706
I can afford the staff and a bunch of lv10 cards to test, just need the most minmaxed way to build it and start leveling

>>183544993
gr8 b8 m8

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>the last few hours
ur all retards

>>183545137
>he thinks Sage does damage
>he thinks cryo's wall is a viable way to do damage
>he thinks warlock does shit damage
>he thinks summon's riding skills don't have fuckhuge scaling with the summons update
Last (You) I'm giving you, you have no idea how most of the classes even work.

>>183544993
Are you being retarded on purpose?
Why are you trying to make Sorc work in a non-summon build? You're worse than the fucking Chaplain PD faggot, at least that retard left after getting shit on in a couple of threads. You never fuck off, and constantly try to argue a "good" Sorc build that doesn't include Necro, when there ISN'T FUCKING ONE. If you want to min-max, go Elememe, if you want a shitty build just make it and FUCK OFF.

>>183545362
Off topic. We are talking about SPRed damage for summons.

>>183545308
>1560% + 468% * 11

>all these autists that are only rank 3 but in the 100s because they absolutely HAVE to rush dungeons even though the fucking 8x tomes are handed out like candy
i just saw one sperg out lmao

>>183545362
In the current patch, sage and cryo shit all over summon damage.

>>183545441
>faggot mentions said classes
>I'm off topic for shitting on him

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I played at at launch but quit, have there been many updates? Has alot changed? Can you play this game as PVE only?

>>183545215
>it's not worth losing tons of summon damage
What's the scaling for weapon matk in ktos?
A full SPR, non-whaled build in itos will multiply your summon's skillfactor by around 1.2 with 400 SPR. This is absolutely nothing.

>>183545584
>In the current patch
Who cares

>>183545698
By 2.2 I mean (or base + 1.2, and base is always 1.0).

>>183545673
>have there been many updates
I fucking wish, we haven't gotten shit in over a year.
>Has a lot changed?
Well, we went from being quest based to being dungeon based, so leveling takes no time and you can reach the worthless "end game".
>Can you play this game as PvE only?
They removed GvG and made it so you can't declare war on guilds anymore, so yeah. Understand that you'll need to either make a class that requires 0 investment and gains nothing from doing ET so you can fund your character that can actually do damage and play the game, or you'll have to grind Saalus for literally 4-5 months before you'll have a weapon that'll let you into ET on a damage class. You'll need to do ET on a class that requires 0 effort in the meantime so you can get the gear to put on your damage class so you can do ET on your damage class.

>>183545780
So your summon skill damage more than doubles as opposed to adding a flat 900 and that's bad?

>>183546149
Are you stupid?

>>183546208
I don't think so? If base is 1.0 and it increases by 1.2 that's a 120% increase unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying the scaling is.

>>183545673
There were a lot of updates, but mainly fixing shit that should've been fixed before the game went beta.

>PVE only
You say that as if the game even has PVP anymore.

>>183546315
"more than doubles" has no meaning.
If you do 1 damage, with "more than doubles" you'll be doing 2.2 damage. Which is still SHIT.

>adding a flat 900
900 matk doesn't mean a flat 900 damage increase.

>>183545673
The entirety of stats and damage was rehauled, so all classes got thrown around. New ways to get gear at most levels, performance is significantly better than launch albeit not the best, pvp is completely optional. You can look here for the majority of major changes.
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=31&n=1

>>183546467
Nigger just get a decent weapon, full SPR will outdamage full INT at like 800 weapon attack already.

>>183545673
Yes, but 90% of the game content is between the 1-240 level range and leveling is so easy right now you can skip all of this in a mere 3 days playing a few hours per day.

Since launch, we've got R8 classes and maps (level 240-330), new hidden classes, hunting grounds ("free dungeons"), combat system overhaul, legendary grade equipment obtained through the most boring daily chorus and performance increase. On the other hand, they kill the game day by day with bad decisions.

>>183546467
What are you even saying now Sorc doesn't literally do 1 damage it's a point of reference and Spr increases their damage by 120%. If you want to argue that "Sorc does low damage so you shouldn't build around it" then whatever but if we start with the assumption that you're a Sorc then you gain the most damage per stat investment from Spr.

so memes aside, what exactly should I be farming? Been doing shard dailies at salus, and I've been grinding crystal mine daily for the weapon gems

>>183546793
290 matts to sell and then buy blessed shards is generally the best thing. There's some oddball ways to make money and if you're super super geared you can farm HG if you want.

>>183546765
The summon damage is shit. That's what I'm saying. Shit * 120% is still shit.

Sorc builds do decent damage if you drop the riding meme and actually use your direct damage spells.

>>183546725
>I have 7 level 317 characters
>I have never seen the level 240-330 maps besides the ones with the 260 dungeon and 290 dungeon and the place you get practo cubes.

>>183546969
This is fucking stupid, all you're saying is "Sorc is bad". If you don't have Spr and don't want to use riding skills there is literally no reason to be Sorc in the first place.

>>183547031
There's no reason for it unless you want to farm DPK mats. I'd say <1% of the community did at least half of the R8 quests. It's just that easy to get lvl 330.

>>183547269
What about the LORE?

>>183547195
>If you don't have Spr and don't want to use riding skills there is literally no reason to be Sorc in the first place.
Okay I respect your opinion and give you this one last (You).

And I don't have anything against quickly hoping on my TS just to cast an aoe when everything else is on cooldown.

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>>183547332
Like, anime tiddies?

>>183547962
Tevhrin questline was great, but I like Kalejimas even better.

>>183547195
You could roll sorc just because you like bats.

>tfw no gf for my fencer
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213336888..85.85.1f75

>tfw do crystal mission instead of the one everyone fucking spams for leveling
>scales, and mobs still drop the ores for practo weapons
why the fuck is nobody doing this

>>183550208
Because 5 teamates = 1/5 of the ores dropped each
People just solo it

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31416699h.1a4a5a.153545.2a4a5575.1a26334a71.1325455171

How's my futureproof Wugushi build?

>>183546116
>or you'll have to grind Saalus for literally 4-5 months before you'll have a weapon that'll let you into ET on a damage class. You'll need to do ET on a class that requires 0 effort in the meantime so you can get the gear to put on your damage class so you can do ET on your damage class.

t.somebody who doesn't actually play the game.

How cheap are orange weapon mats on ktos?

>>183550208
I fucking solo it because why the fuck would I share my ports with random shitters.

>>183551324
You're right, I gave up on playing it when renewal didn't remove transcendence completely and we haven't got something to do besides ET. I still have some hope though.

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>>183512850
>barefoot costumes
Is this legal..?

>>183551457
Why do you retards think they'll remove the only form of progression this game has that can't be finished in a week? If leveling actually took effort sure but it doesn't and w/o trans you'd just hit end and have literally nothing to do instead of silver grind.

>>183551906
>w/o trans you'd just hit end and have literally nothing to do instead of silver grind
So instead we have literally nothing to do but run a daily chore
Amazing design 10/10 GOTY

>>183552209
>buffed

Jesus, I'm sorry I even asked about spr for sorc.

I still don't know what to do.

>>183552504
Just follow your heart

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what's going on ingame tonight?
>tons of new players in starter zones
>rubberband lag and fps drops like hell even when no one is around

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Hmmmmmmmm.

>>183552832
getting whale buffs in new characters so they can get the items on them or something?

>>183552832
>Whale buff

>If pirate hat keep it and later when you've got a few event items and they start to be worth a lot, token and trade to your main
>Can enchant/etc with those whale buffs
>Guess to impress gives you some stuff too

>>183552842
Is she going to be okay?

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ALIVE

>>183552209
kysmm

>someone puts up 7k uosis for 450 silver each
who is botting all this uosis? Can they grow them in guild towers now? Do they want to see 35000 potions for 250 each?

tl;dr put up all your uosis for 400 if you want quick money.

>ToS players
http://oglaf.com/annals/

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I want this game to keep living.

Every month that it is alive just enrages the haters even more.

So I'm going to keep playing and buy TP when I feel like it.

I'm planning to sorc2necro2, which is better to put points in, salmon or bats?

>>183558597
pls rember that wen u feel dad gam or boerd
never forget ttimes wen u feeled ALIVE
wen day is dark alway rember ALIVE day

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>>183558746

>tfw there will never be a beastmaster swordsman class

>>183560183
What do beastmasters do?

>>183560347
Control beasts
and use whips

>>183560443
Control beasts how, like hunters? You can be a hunter falcon hacka and use a sword while controlling beasts.

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>>183560443
>Upgraded to class master

>>183560762
>This shit

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>ToSG players

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>not playing a cute sage

remember that c2 skills will be very potent offensively and c3 unlocks BLACKHOLE

>>183562958
>There will never be PK and Sage synergy passives for gravity and space control
>There will never be Chrono and Sage synergy passives for time and space control
Hell, there will never even be a pyrokenesis passive for Sage and Pyro. Why is the attribute system so wasted?

How much pract do you actually get from Guild 14 mission?

>>183563514
0-6
most times 0 now
droprates have been reduced in rework

>>183563514
waste of talt
Getting lv 14 isn't worth with Practonium worth like shit now.
Kim has to reduce the experience needed by towers for level up though, the cost in talt past lv12 gets really high

>>183562958
>one-legged pirate slut
>to poor for woodenleg
Anon pls

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>>183563231
Trust kim.

missile hole redone to work like small pavises to protect your team with 3 overheats! (so no more a boring buff and easier to be dealt with)


c2:
wormhole skill (max lv 5) will enable you to create teleportation discs were the sage and his friends will be able to go in and out of a given map very fast, just imagine how good it will be for farming and for pvp!

blink will get attribute to enable the clone to channel your lower rank skills for you (hell breath, psychic pressure/gravity pole)

ultimate dimension will be able to give additional effects to field skills and will enlarge those skills for 5% per skill level! notable synergy: stop, raise, pole of agony

micro dimension will get an attribute similar to capture but since it has 3 overheats, you will be able to capture 3 stuffs and launch it with the new lv 1 max skill. only friendly magic fields

blackhole: a vacuum like frost pillar but smaller (increases with each level, so bigger than pillar at 6+) and will also dps heavily, very long cooldown, needs to be channeled, sage is the center of the black hole. weird stuff will happen depending on what was sucked into the hole (like your own firepillar/fireballs/firewall, hail, warlock spirits, pole, icewall and etc


c3:
blink can channel black hole

new skill: archon, pic related. archon attributes and secondary skills unlocked based on your early class circles (cryo, pyro, wiz3, chrono, kino etc)

>>183512850
what does the shark gun do?
and what does the snowboard do?

>>183564989
>blackhole: a vacuum like frost pillar but smaller (increases with each level, so bigger than pillar at 6+) and will also dps heavily, very long cooldown, needs to be channeled, sage is the center of the black hole. weird stuff will happen depending on what was sucked into the hole (like your own firepillar/fireballs/firewall, hail, warlock spirits, pole, icewall and etc

If this was IMC 3 years ago, it'd be called Singularity and it'd suck all the things into a big katamari-like ball like snow rolling and be able to throw the ball at stuff. IF they do make a skill, it'll just be that thing that dumb bull does in 290.

I just want shadowmancer to be cool.

Why won't wugushi die? Why do they try so hard to live?

>>183565686

wugushi is like taking that ultra shit university course, you'll never get a job on that shit but you can proceed to rank r7/r8 and major into another shit later

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>>183565272
>what does the shark gun do?
https://my.mixtape.moe/jnnqls.webm
>and what does the snowboard do?
pic

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will there ever be a way to make money other than to afk?

>>183565953
aye, killing bosses for pract accessories recipes
ET and sell solmiki items
buy TP and roll gacha

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>>183565953
muh sekrit spot

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>>183565924
Has anyone ever actually masturbated to Tree of Savior?

>>183568630
While ERPing in it yes.

>>183568630
yea

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>>183568630
heh

>>183568630
To Doujinshi. also to https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57566

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>>183569454
>https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57566

>>183563514
11 in 17 runs so far, dropping as batches of 5 and 6.

>>183569454
Didn't realize Earth Spectra was so lewd. Surprised you can fap to that though desu

>>183569175
Not sure that counts, but sign me the fuck up.

>>183568976
What's that like, a slow stroke for several hours in Orsha__?

>>183560762
Go home and be a father man.

>>183569759
>Surprised you can fap to that though desu
Not to the still, but it's the only thing in the game with bouncing breasts. Go take a close look at it sometime.

>>183571317
I can't say I ever zoom in that much, but I'll take a look.

Haven't played since early release, is leveling still a bitch? (have to store XP cards to use in places where game content isn't great)

>>183573815
No.

>>183573815
Nope, and questing isn't the shit like it was before.

Maybe this will help you a bit, I did this for my guild, it's not complete.
The important thing is that you can start getting full exp from 40 levels under an area! I've got to edit it more, but add Igti Coast to that when you can get there, then Workshop after that it seems.

- Nevellet Quarry 1F and 2F 39 43
Good from 1-50
- Tenet Garden 35
Good from 1-45~
- Gytis Settlement 69
Come here ASAP after Tenet Garden and min. level 29 as you will 1HKO with Blessing/Sacrament and get MUCH more exp per kill than Tenet Garden. This isn't necessarily a great place but it's accessible!
- Royal Mausoleum Workers Lodge 73
The gimmick on this map is decent but not the best, do this if you need to bridge the gap to Chapel.
- Royal Mausoleum's Constructor's Chapel 78
Need good AoE and Blessing here! Do the event on both channels, you'll have a little time after if you're not level 100!
- Royal Mausoleum's Storage 83
This event isn't as good as chapel's, only use it to kill time between chapel events.
- Demon Prison District 2 154
You'll want Aspersion for some damage mitigation here, try not to get hit too much, moving will help. Experience is really good.

>>183512850
What class can remove kebab?

Is it shit?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111449ff.3f5f6a85.182a3a5171.55
Not sure which dragoon skills are good.

>got a +12 weapon full potential
>try to +13 it
>goes down to +6 with 0 potential

Well in gambling the house always wins. It's like they know.

Good thing I got an extra one and I'm just sticking to +11.

>>183575536
10 tooth
9 serpent
5 dethrone
1 soar
5 bulg

Tooth is your main attack, serpent is your debuff, dethrone is also your high damage skill(lol) and soar is just there as a filler. Gae bulg misses with its debuff cause the game is shit so just leave it at 5.

>>183575536
Current standard build.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111444ff.3f5f6a85.1f2d3f5171.1a29354155

You need Stabbing at 15 since it's being buffed with a dragoon skill that escapes me at the moment.

How to fix ToS :

- Remove the token benefits, dont treat free player like 2nd class citizens.
- ???
- Profit

>>183577498
go be poor somewhere else

>>183577498
No.
Buy a Token already filthy F2Pscum

>>183577498
that would make almost zero(0) difference

>>183577498
How to fix 4chan :

- Remove the pass benefits, dont treat free posters like 2nd class citizens.
- ???
- Profit

How to fix ToS :

- Add more token benefits, dont treat free player like 2nd class citizens. They are 3rd class citizens.
- ???
- Profit

>>183577568
>>183577575
>>183577639
>>183577641

You know, if they change their f2p system to cosmetic only like DOTA2 & CS:GO, they will even richer as fuck by now & getting tons of new players

But no, IMC goes full retard and still stuck with p2w f2p system.

>>183577706
They should go P2P and put all the cosmetic items in the game and obtainable through quests and dungeons.

>>183577772

Or that will work too, but im pretty sure its only work on rich country only like USA, German, Korea, Japan, etc.

>>183577829
So the only relevant countries. BRs can go back to RO.

Is it possible to trade a 0 potential equipment with token or does it remain untradeable?

>>183578532
>Is it possible to trade a 0 potential equipment
no

>>183578583
fuck. I just wasted 3m then

>>183578623
Tokens are never wasted money.

>>183577995

Didnt you know that most of the profits for cosmetics stuff are coming from that countries, right ?

>>183578868

>Tokens are never wasted money.

Wow what a IMCsluts.

>>183578868
No i wasted 3m on a manamana which I made 0 potential from golden anvils (free ones fortunately) to trade from my alt to main account

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>>183579120
what server

>>183579258
klai

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>>183579425
come to fedi ch4

>>183579664
why? you can't trade 0 potential items

>>183579664
>no token

>>183579874
>pd doctor brainlet
I knew it

>>183579874
dont you want a free manamana

>>183579943
no thank you, I don't want to be namecalled or whatever by the entire thread

>Be me
>Finally get muh full DEX Hackafeels
>Buy an unappraised Migantis one handed sword
>Appraise it and get 4 slots
>Just in time since I have 4 lvl 5 yellow gems
>Put it all in the sword
>Left with only 80k silver
>Feel good about muh self
>Equip sword
>The gems aren't actually roasted
>I get -56 Accuracy

So now I only have 72 Accuracy. What to do?

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>>183580275
Put accuracy gems in gloves to compensate.

>>183580275
>farm/buy 4 more Lv5 yellows and roast these

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>>183580275
>lvl 5
take it out and level it again

>>183580275
And don't put yellow gems what the fuck.

>>183580406
Why not?

>>183580636
Because crit attack as it is right now in the game is shit.
Yellow gems only beat reds when you have close to 10 times more patk than the mob's pdef.

>>183581079
So Full DEX is also shit?

>>183581250
Yes :^)
But I like full dex because of evasion.
The difference between full dex and full str in terms of damage isn't that big though.
I've never really tested it, but DEX might even beat STR slightly if you take attack speed into account.

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>>183576015

At the risk of being missinfo'd.

I got a sorc2 and I'm using a netherbovine 10 card. What's a good card to use as secondary in the grimoire? And when are those summon buffs coming to itos?

>>183581570
Why use the bovine instead of Templeshooter?

>>183581748
You been living under a rock? Temple shooter got nerfed to hell.

>>183581748
Bovine is the new meme, after we will get the summon buffs it will straight powercreep SR Limacon form farming and it will be very ET viable too
>>183581857
TS is still fine, the cow MOOOOOOOOO is just plain better but TS auto attack > cow

Dead Game
Dead Thread filled with Samefag

>>183581530
>1h spear
??

>>183581940
I was kind of asking it in a non-literal, meta-ironic way.
Bovine is just bad. The only good thing is how his Skill2 has a huge aoe but it's useless. It's still inferior to everything else in this game.

>>183581748
Ts is good for autoattacking, but netherbovine's aoe destroys shiton ktos, we still need them buffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_erfx_jgqk

I still need that second card idea btw

>>183582630
Still doesn't look that amazing, sure good for farming silvers and nothing else

>>183582630
Do yourself a favour, stop falling for retarded, staged, whaled videos.

>>183582730
What else is there besides farming silvers?

>>183582874
good point
Sorc is one of the best class in game indeed

>>183582874
If you want to farm silver then make a silver farming character.

>>183582938
And Sorcbovine is a silver farmer

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>>183582978