/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General!

first for haruko

>implying clams can't use memeguns

Why isn't Smurfy updated yet? Planning Mechs around new weapons is a pain in the ass when you have to substitute weird stuff like XLs, LRMs, ACs and AMS ammo in place of the stuff you're actually going to run.

>>183011591
It's hard to do when the update isn't fucking out yet you idiot. Smurfy scans gamefiles and uploads it. He can't do that for shit that doesn't exist in-game yet.

Do MRMs need Artemis?

>>183013146
They need Apollo FCS which isn't in the game yet.

>>183013146
unaffected

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HMG & diet pepper spooders soon fellow inner sphereoids

>>183013908
mostly worried about the hmgs

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>tfw garage is 98% clam and can't afford spheroid nutech

>>183014576
Just take the 3 ams kit fox for a spin.
200k per match without premium, 60% of the time, every time.

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>>183014576
Get fucked clanner.

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>>183014135
Worried how?
Like how they might break the brawling meta or how PGI will eventually break the weapon itself?

>>183015410
Sitting in front of someone at 80m for 10 seconds is balance enough

Should zi 2RAC5 + Murm40 Onion??

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>>183015579
>implying you won't be 5m from their butt anyway
if you have tons of MGs and you're not in their face you are doing it wrong

>>183016136
i like this image

Is patch in six hours?

IS patched out in six hours?

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why do we have two threads below bump limit

late night bamp

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>Microsoft made their own mechs, we can too!

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/254734-roughneck-didnt-sell-well/

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Never forget we had potential shoulder pods.

>>183027612
>all the mechs that Microsoft made are actually really good, most are now even considered iconic to the franchise
>Roughneck is actually amazing despite what people said, and may go the same route as its introduced to canon lore
Really makes me think. Seems like if the shittiest of companies are capable of anything its making robots that are leagues better than the shitty lore bots.

How much HMG ammo for 6 HMGs? 3.5 tons?

>>183031410
>6 HMGs
Is this for a Spooder?
...this better not be for a fucking King Crab or a Mauler; if it is, I swear to god, neck yourself right now.

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>>183031593
>6HMGs
>Spider

It's almost certainly for a Shadow Cat, and yeah, 3.5 is enough.

>>183031717
I forgot that piece of shit existed.

>>183030851

nice b8.

>>183004054
>>183004729
>>183005274
>>183005536
>>183005891

They could have delivered some little seen 3055-3060 era Mechs and actually advertised the intention for a 3057 timeframe and gotten as much hype, but they had to blow their load on the MW4 nostalgia bucks already so went with the civil war designs. Now there will be Mechs and weapons ten years ahead of their time running around just for the sake of getting more money for Las Vegas.

>>183032165
Not an argument.

>>183032408
>gotten as much hype

Nah. Not even close. You also wouldn't get to include all the tech they've included.

Besides, Civil War Escalation features 2 very rare mechs in it. The Nightstar has never been in anything and the Arctic Wolf only in the MW4 Mek Pak.

>>183032408
Black Lanner pls

>>183031924
Don't talk shit about my metacat, motherfucker

>>183032873
I'd kill for a Black Lanner or a Gesu, nothing boated SRMs, machine guns and lightning speed quite like them

>>183033397
teleports behind you
unsheathes heavyppcs
Nothin' personnel, kid.

>>183033515
>Gesu
Those were good times. Shame there's so few videos of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5xF2vpsy7s

>>183032408
>>183032029
what >>183035270 said

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>>183030851
>Roughneck is actually amazing
Confirmed for trying to rationalize spending money on PGI's poster mech when it's okay at best and brings nothing new to the table.

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>>183027612

>durr, go the goldforums then click the twitter link.

This is how you shitpost new PGI happenings.

>>183036173
>nothing new
3 UAC/5s and 3 center-mounted medium lasers is pretty new for a heavy, unless there's another 65-tonner I'm forgetting about that can manage that? It's slightly iffy due to the XL you have to mount right now, but you could probably justify losing a bit of speed to swap over to LFE tomorrow. It's also quirked to hell and back, so unless they gut it insanely hard for the Cbill release next month it's still gonna be a stupidly tanky heavy 'mech with high mounted hardpoints, which is a pretty definitive combo for being good in this game.

>>183036173
K.

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>finally get a linebacker
>endup doing less dmg and dying more than my Little raven

What am I doing wrong?

>>183038546
You're not using Micro Pulse Lasers + HMGs

>>183038919
Are those the new weapons?
I won't be able to play until Thursday so I think I might miss out on the new stuff for a while.

>>183039047
Two days is nothing.

Linebacker is like a fat Stormcrow with less weapons, but hey man more armor and same speed, it's a good deal if you use the right weapons. The problem is that SPLs got nerfed to shit and it's hard to fit SRM6s on it (you can, without Artemis). Face hug idiots or do meme builds, but you'll always be boating tiny wimpy weapons that get strong in bulk.

I can't wait to decimate idiots in my Shadow Cat

>>183040934
Hmgs aren't that good. They are decent but have fuckall range. You'll be face hugging them to get all your damage.

I the the light mgs will be better due to their 300 meter otimal range.

I cant wait for smurfy after the patch is out.

hold up
goos and pepsi grouped for ghost heat
smack my lips

>>183041660
If you think light MG's will be better than heavies you're doing it wrong.

galaxy of autocannon urbies

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Too big for 4chan.

http://imgur.com/FxUjetx

Madcat mark meme walk. TL;DR looks like fucking shit.

>>183044787
s m h

>>183044787
somehow even mw4 had better animations
sad!

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>>183045590

PGI quality.

In fact i am really scared about RACs, because this daka would make me panic, how do i counter RACs in my clammechs?
>inb4 do not facetank

Anyone want to rate my Civil War Timby build? 1.25t spare for HMGs

Whoops, I was so excited I forgot to give the link!

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=163&l=31c912b28aa955a6d8ac1806ce4d686f905cc7f9

>>183047063
>>183046969
LBX2, WAT? WHY?

>>183047190
I had extra tonnage so i figured I should upgrade one hmg to something similar but stronger :)

>>183047063
>buying a Warrant arm just for 5 Heavy Memeguns and 4 regular SRM6s
So stupid, I hate everything about this except the DPS.

>>183047287
I, personally, wouldnt use three different ammo-dependent weapons with no energy backup.
So either full 5HMG and artemis quad SRMS or LBX20 with srm24 and no mgs at all.

>>183047063
SRMs and 3HMGs is a good base for a build, but you're wasting your arms. At the very least run lasers or flamers on the sides.

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>>183044787
>tfw I got my refunds already

>>183047063
timberwolf isn't a good memegun platform, you're 30 tons above your ideal weight
if you're going to meme, commit to it

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=299&l=6c86d00a0ab81dda7603d58e6f06e22225c7141f

this gives you masc and a better profile for butt-pounding, and you're not wasting a heavy slot for your team

If sometimes ATMs will be about viable - i cant even find a mech to fit em. quad ATM12 stock Niggyr with two ermeds or what?
ATM theorycrafting anyone?

>>183049309
You need to be fast to even bother, it's the only way to deal with the minimum range. Probably a Stormcrow or mech with equivalent free tonnage-- but even so, the low missiles count vs. AMS is just going to be trash far too often.

>memetech release date
>10 mil in bank
fugg

>>183037170
Roughneck is literally "I'm too poor to afford an Elmo"

>>183049309
expanding on >>183049451
a Stormcrow could run two ATM12s and 8 regular micro lasers with a respectable amount of ammo and a couple sinks
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=185&l=b154a70dcf94e870d455c35f0669f6ac09cd6764

Adjuat to ghost heat or preference, 11 can easily fit in addition to the ATMs if you want that. Your biggest problem is going to be that ATMs are shit and Shitcrow has no armor quirks (the penalty for good torso twist, 13 E, 104kph and 25t free for weapons)

>>183050048
It has 5 tons less free space though and looks ugly as sin. Elmo is the real way to get it done.

There is absolutely no reason to use Ass To Mouth over ASRMs or Streaks, it is worse than both by every measure, you can literally do more damage and DPS with Streaks EVEN WITH their sorry accuracy.

I'm glad HMGs are good

I'm glad horko is employed now

I have a question for the heavy machine gun people:

How do you spec your Firepower skill tree, or your tree in general? Most of it doesn't do anything in particular since it has so little range and heat. Do you just ignore it, or only get cool down?

The fuck is an elmo?

>>183052907
Ilya Muromets, Hero Cataphract

>retards thinking goose pepsi is dead
good, less goose pepsi to deal with

>>183044878
Who is that bobble headed balding toddler in the facecam?

Also that animation is reminiscent of a drunk man with one shoe on at 3am out the front of his house 4 seconds away from shitting himself, unable to decide if he wants to give up and do it on the grass and blame the dog or hobble over the freezing cold, mildew covered lawn and fumble with his keys, hoping he makes it inside on time.

>>183054192
Meant to quote >>183044787

Fuck.

>>183049309
It was never meant to be viable sempai.

Infact heavy lasers share the same role as something that pads out the weapon menu while never really being a viable choice.

Minimum range is just a way of making the weapon inferior to every other missile weapon. I hope the clan scientists who came up with it were summarily executed as traitors attempting to aid the inner sphere.

Heavy lasers also fall into this catagory of uselessness simply due to the design and nature of clan weapons. Damage per heat is the name off the game. Things like high dps weapons, as was the intent behind spl changes, are misguided because after 4 laser alphas every clan mech in the game is fighting heat. Naturally limiting their use of weapons. Cheetahs didnt run with 4 spl in order to get more dps, because alpha damage is what wins games.

Pgi apparently doesnt play their game or this might be obvious.

Enjoy your slightly faster ppcs and heavy meme guns. Only once clan mechs start dropping out of the que in a few weeks will piggy take notice.

Until then I recommend buying all the new IS meta mechs or playing something else.

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>>183044787
>too big for 4chan
>ant resolution 10fps tumblr gif
Vass I....

>>183054814
the most sought after mech in the history of MWO and this is the best they come up with

christ

>>183054814
JUST

>>183049973
Wooooow, hold on, you have another month to grind for incoming glorious ECM IFR.

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>>183054814
THE CLAN SHUFFLE

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>>183049973
>tfw been meming around with my welfare bucks and buying mechs left and right
>still a few hundred million c-bills and tens of thousands of good boy points left

>>183054716
I shit you not, but heavy mediums are the choice for the mechs lacking freetonnage but not space - like not FF+ENDO clan lights/medium mechs.

>>183059001
>not being a skimpy literal billionaire dutch man who refuses to buy an omnipod to make a build

God, the incoming assaults animation both Mad and Annie are really shit-tier.
CANT PGI SEE IT?
Like - hey, people, this walking animation is really bad, may we do something about it?

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>>183058414
>ECM IFR

Who cares about ECM on it, you have to give up the CT energy to get it. It's getting the ability to do 6E or 5E 2M, both way more exciting than mounting ECM.

t. IFR enthusiast

>>183059085
Obligatory cheapskate module joke.

>>183058414
>ECM
Gutted technology, waste of tonnage these days.

>>183058784
I would make a webm of it if twitch wasn't such a piece of shit, but the mad catz mk2 cockpit item has a better walking animation than the mech itself

how do you fuck up this bad

>>183059352
>5E 2M
>on IFR
I see 5 micros aaaaand do you know that rocket launchers are IS-tech?

Best Urbie to buy?

I feel like I need one

>>183059038
>heavy mediums
>hotter than the sun
>lower range and longer beam duration than erml
lol no who's going to use that shit

>>183059938
Wait and see, i suppose there'll be a bunch of SNV-warriors using that.

>>183060072
They would be horrible on the Superdoa because they take up two slots which reduces the space for heatsinks.

>>183060415
Sure.

>>183059884
R-63 is my favourite. Take a big ballistic, like a AC/10 or a Light Gauss, and some back up lasers.

>>183059597
9t to work with.

If you want to go the micro pulse route you can have 5uPLs and 2ASRM6 with 1.5t of ammo, 2t if you strip a little armour. Given the range of uPLs you could drop the Artemis and take more ammo or ATMs instead.

Or you could use Heavy Smalls if you want real damage at the cost of duration and a bit more heat.

>>183036840
>>183032745
>>183030851

The money you're looking for is on another island.

I cant into math. Is superDOA-b at least tanky due to +10 quircks, or it's not enough?

>>183054814
>>183054192

Jesus phils hairline is fucked, constant exposure to old men is beginning to suck his youth away.

>>183054814
>>183058784

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqJU9f5hYo

17 years old

>tfw smurfy works by datamining so can't get early access to easy excelsheet warrior and compare DPHs of doatech

What time is nutech hitting?

>>183062934
I'm going to assume you're just pretending to be retarded to get the thread bumped with (You)s.

>>183063061
I'm not. Is it out yet? I'm shitposting from work.

What's the best Omnimech in the game right now?

I've got a nice crop of IS moneymakers to fund experimentation so I'd like to start playing with builds and generally just faffing about.

>>183060659
What engine would you recommend?

>estimated downtime: 2 hours
how does it take two fucking hours to update your game when other companies do it without any downtime

>>183064284
Go big or go home, XL180 every time. As much fun as it is on the tabletop, there is no way to actually be effective without going at a decent speed. There's also still usually enough room for a decent amount of ammo while still taking some pasers.

>>183065216
Lasers*

>>183065039
Is it down already?

Why is Clan Nova Cat fighting for Smoke Jaguar instead of against them? Why is Steel Viper fighting for Greenbirb instead of against them?

>>183066639
The lore is as minimally viable as the ass to mouth missiles.

>>183067013
I feel like Ass To Mouth is worse than literally going ass to mouth on someone.

>>183028742
Woah what is this?

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>>183069807
Something very old.

IT'S UP!

>>183071727
delet

>>183071727
1 hour until servers down
2 hours of downtime (actually 3 hours)

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niceu meemu

>>183074545
:^)

>>183074545
we can't bring you ass to mouth technology in a timely manner because our staff is too busy doing ass to mouth
t. pig

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Maint time in five minutes. Good ending, though.

Now to await shouldbepurplelasers and asstomouth surprises.

who here pretty much not even looking forward to the update

I'm going to put ATMs on my HBKIIC, and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>183054716
>I hope the clan scientists who came up with it were summarily executed as traitors attempting to aid the inner sphere

Fun fact: The scientists are actually trying to fuck the warrior caste's shit up right now, canonically. It just doesn't come to a head until the Society/Wars of Reaving. That's why we get Protoyiffs and other "boondoggles" the warrior caste ignores while the scientists just laugh and turn them into decent tech.

>>183049309

You're going to have to treat them a lot like an IS LRM boat, only you get more punch the closer you get until you're in the deadzone, at which point you better fucking have some other guns.

The Niggyr-D is crit-cramped, so heavier launchers for the same punch is probably better for them than the usual LRM spam. I wouldn't skimp on the CT/H guns though. Otherwise, it'll be just like an IS LRM boat, useless the second you cross the line of death.

>>183078329
I can equip an ams
Then what

>>183078840

He shoots you with the lasers instead? Gets in close enough that he can get some missiles past the AMS if he can dance around the 120m deadzone?

AMS will fuck up people plinking at range, but you've got that very narrow window of "fuck you" that works.

>>183079030
>Any amount of lasers that'd be a threat
>with ATM tonnage
lel no

>>183078329
Enjoy your objectively worse lurmboat that can't fire indirectly or flank enemy positions without line of sight.

>>183079179

Depends on how many tubes you strap on. Two ATM 12's gives you enough for some ERMLs, easily, that's only 14 tons+ ammo. If you can get two UAC/10's on without trouble and ammo, they're six tons lighter than that.

>>183079337

Didn't you see on PTS? Piggie fucked up, ATMs have a flatter arc but can still fire indirect over smaller hills and shit since they use the same guidance coding as LRMs.

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>>183078329
I'm going to run up on you with my Hvy MG Urbanmech and do something about it, clam.

>>183080002
Get outta here Russ, you weapon system's busted and you know it

>alpha'd a standing ass-ass-in the chest with 8 cmpl
>all torsos and left arm go yellow, right leg goes deep orange
same shit all the way back to beta

>>183080213

Oh, I know it's fucked up.

It doesn't shoot right, it still gets zero damage at 119m, missile health is shit enough that AMS rapes it anywhere but near-point blank, etc. etc.

Clan gets HMGs, maybe micros, a missile system in need of serious unfucking, and shootmeinthefacelasers.

>tfw cmpl nerfs

>>183080641
at least clans had their fun with UAC10s, IS get the new doa versions

>>183081492
The is IS uac10 and uac20 are infinitely better than cuck10 and cuck20 because of kwerks and less projectiles.

>>183081909
And still unusable because "lmao JAMMED now wait an eternity to fire again"

>>183082060
4 u

>>183081909
What? I thought the IS uac10 and 20 also fired in bursts. I saw PTR videos with a king crab testing them.

>>183082585
They shoot one less than the clan versions.

>>183082754

Yeah. IS UAC/10 actually looks like a winner.

Much more so than Really Awful Cannons.

>server still offline
come on
I want to start the patching process, take a long shower and get drunk

>>183083625
>tfw too smart to read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJ9ZtYP8k4

It begins.

>>183084103
>secret ingredient
>not: incompetence
ribbit cant meme for shit

it's time

7 minutes for PGI to not fuck up yet another thing for this update

>>183087942
>7 minutes
1 hour 7 minutes

>>183087942
>>183087461
When did 1PST become 12PST?

There's still one more hour.

>>183088179
>>183088183
thanks windows for not being able to display the correct fucking time

I can only assume something is going to go horribly wrong because they have to do last minute maintenance work.

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>>183087461

>>183088994
They are just changing the server PSU hamsters.

>shitteroids on the forums already crying about LFE having side torso loss penalties like clan XL
They'll literally never be satisfied because they've been butthurt about "muh clans op" for decades. And those are the people who piggy listens with balance decisions.

how is the new teck

t. k from paris

WE ARE LIVE

>>183092305
delayed due to change in position

have you died to terrorists yet?

>>183092254
>shitteroids on the forums already crying about LFE having side torso loss penalties like clan XL
Shit like this makes me sad that I'm aligned IS, desu
buff clams

>>183092446
neg just ate lots of expensive french cuisine and made my cusband pay for it

it was like almost 40 celsius outside


s m h

that madcat 2 walking animation

>>183093097
too late to refund goy

>>183093097
but they'll fix iiit

>when you can't tell if Annihilator is p2w or unfixably doa with it's megaquirks on a 100t IS direwhale

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>>183093097
>just ate lots of expensive french cuisine and made my cusband pay for it
you don't make him pay for all your meals, right?

And yes, the Mcat 2 walking animation is atrocious. Russ said they'll "fix it" and is most likely why we have extended downtime but I personally wouldn't keep your hopes up

>>183093487
>keep hopes up
>keep
since when do you get your hopes up for anything related to MWO?

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2 MINUTES TO FAILURE

here we go

1.4 gigabytes

>>183093487
i take care of the entrance fees and other not meal related costs

>>183094470
It's under 1gb actually. Steambirths btfo

time to leave /gerg/ and hide from people having fun with robots I don't have ;___;

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>Ready to launch in approximately: 51 minutes
Thanks spectrum
guess I'll just read or something

>>183093632
I mean the Javelin turned out alright, didn't it?

>>183094707
>/gerg/
>having fun

oh boy I can't wait to log on to find all my clam mech builds are worthless again

>>183095115
Don't you mean "are still worthless after previous butcherings"?

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>>183095285
>"At least I still have this shell of my Medium Pulse Boat!"
>PGI catches wind that a weapon is still slightly useable
>scrapes out the rest of the meat inside it and then shoots the kneecaps off for good measure

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these are some high arm mounts

pepsi dream is real

>servers going down in 5 minutes

Oh Pig

>more downtime
haista vittu t. pgi

Heavy meme guns suck ammo as if it were free, jebus

>a network error occured
All that extra maintenance and they still can't unfuck their shit?

lul, goosepepsi did indeed get pigfucked compleatly.
Niggyr with 2x goose 1(one)x pepsi generated over 50% heat with one alpha.
Lets see if it stays that way after this "hotfix", or why ever the servers down again.

>that shark mouth on deathstrike is not affected by colors and always stays the same
At least something is right.

>>183097304
literally too retarded to wait .5 seconds bravo
it's pgi listening to people like you who are the reason this game is so shit

>>183097183
I had 2.5 tons and it vanished pretty quick. It seemed to be doing decent damage though.

>pgi literally delaying their delays
The downtime was our position at the time

>start playing with mechlab
>can't make anything work even in theory
Fucking doatech

>>183098573
pleb
THE RAC 5 MRM 40 GUNDAM ZOOSE IS LOOSE

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>>183098802
behold
the memezeus

>>183098573
>>183098802
>>183099313
>not 3 MRM 20 ZEU-6T

>>183070680
>w and 9

>>183100585
>wanting an ugly fucking trashcan arm
no

oh right, it's update time, that means all the turbo shitters come out of the woodworks to play their single heatsink lore friendly garbage

perfection coming through
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=560&l=73d76925c9374365ba361b965a8117ed31a28c63

>>183100825
Why don't you like the Power Fist?

>>183102282
20 tubes is power fist
any more is cancer

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Stealth Armor is pretty much confirmed for not-DOA, but only on a few 'mechs so far. It's great on the PHX-1B with a RAC/5 and 2 MPLs, and it's ridiculous on this MRM Tempest with its base -10% missile heat quirk. CDA-3M would be a good bet if you really wanna use stealth with a UAC/5, but I don't wanna buy it to test since at least from the PTS the UAC/5 was too hot to deal with and also it's a cicada so it's too squishy to ever really function.

The next thing I'm gonna try after I finish kitting out my Marauders with the new ballistic options is probably gonna be a stealth armor cyclops with 2 Light Gauss, since the DPS on that is pretty solid and it's almost no heat at all. Atlas DDC will probably be fine with stealth armor too, but big and slow 'mechs aren't really my thing so somebody else is gonna have to figure out how to optimize that.

RACs blow massive ass, still pretty fun to cover the target's face in explosions so they can't even do anything.

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The smug pepsi can replace a LPL and give you one more DHS for stealth

MRMS ARE FUN

>>183100989
Confirmed queue is in full aids mode

didn't they say they were separating the RAC ghost heat groups? because they sure didn't

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>7 HMGs on a shaddy cat
good fucking lord man
nigga literally eats through armor in a matter of seconds madman absurd shit

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Here you can see the Victor equipped with a UAC10 in the right arm and three Light PPCs in the left arm.

>micro pulse has worse dph than the shittered cspl
Epic

>activate stealth armor on grim plexus
>map is so cold the game fucks up and still lets you dissipate heat, but at a slower rate than normal
Expect a hotfix for this

>uziel does literally all my favorite IS medium builds
huh

give me the quick rundown on RAC

Well that was fun

Doatech is doa, people are still fucking retarded and every map except hpg and canyon should still be removed from the game

>>183109904
complete garbage in everything but the fun department

>>183109904
okay with MRMs but realistically UACs are the better choice despite their more random Jan chance

>>183109904
Higher DPS than UAC/5 (10.91 versus 6.02) and takes a bit longer to jam on average, but less accurate and requires staring at your opponent. It's good, but you need to either be fast enough to avoid shots while staring your opponent down or tanky enough to not care.

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hhhm

>>183110486
Really awful celcius and murms are both hotter than the sun, I already tried that combo and it doesn't go well.

>>183105860
7th HMG is a bit excessive when you can trade it for an SRM6 and the biggest laser you can handle, but definitely a ridiculous build in general. I'm actually having fun

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lmao, Harabec

>>183110678
Whoah dude you turned it into a shitty huelander 2C

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look at this shit
look
what is this pitch angle

>>183110678
>13 dhs
hmmmmmmmmm

>>183111201
its at 35 heat efficiency even before skills dude, heat its not going to be a problem.

>>183112173
lol

>>183112173
35 is low

quick impressions so far
>mrm: fun and brawly but spread damage like crazy, feel solid
>rac: more like shit seriously never use these
>light engine: good for mediums if brawling or if you are shit, good in heavies and assaults overall

My quick rundown
>hppc: surprisingly not completely unusable
>mrm: feels like dogshit because they changed the launch method and it's hot as fuck
>rac: more like kill yourself with heat cannon
>hmg: good meme but good luck getting that close
>heavy lasers: for what purpose
>micro lasers: it's a good thing piggy nerfed the damage and dph because otherwise they might have been useful or something
>atm: didn't even bother to try /10

>>183113802
mrms are godlike my man
rise of the white whale

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BEHOLD, THE END OF DAYS, WHALE OF WALES, DEAR LEADER'S COUP DE GRACE

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=46&l=dc0debb6f48d5b8abd00a0bfdf30cfb48016891e

ALL SHALL FEAR THE MIGHTY DONG
you can fit four 40s if you kill your engine and armor to almost zero

>>183106065
You mean two Pepsi and a laser of some kind, right? Please tell me that's the case.

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>>183116103
40s is better.

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>>183116919
>320 damage in two volleys
>only 3.2 points of ghost heat if you fire 2x2 instead of at the cap
Holy shit

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TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBES

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>>183117531

>>183110749
Please post loadout

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>>183116919
5S has better quirks, and here's a more efficient setup (Endo+Light for bigger engine).

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>>183117531
>Fire literally anything in the general direction of the tubes
>Detonates the warheads
>Stops them from functioning at least

Battletech weapon design is fucking retarded, when are we getting missile doors back

>>183105860
>still no light/med IS 8 MG mech
I fucking hate Shadow Cats.

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>>183119056
I run the top build because 270m is common while 80m doesn't always happen immediately.

Bottom build is better for 1) hugging ass to mouth, 2) harassing out to about 450m. You can also consider Medium Pulse or a regular Large if you think it's too hot, but keep in mind this is 100% heat neutral if you leave out the laser.

You used to be able to fit a PPC or LPL, but the space isn't there anymore when you're using HMGs. Tweak to taste.

>>183119446
Warheads don't actually work like that.

>>183120839
>Stops them from functioning at least

>>183119056
forgot smurfy link
top build is http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=298&l=2ba0fb5d7ccf81203db5acdd9a853c1a8c89007d

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>>183119224
>>183116919
>>183117531

Kong
I need you to tell me why I shouldn't be running MRM boats right now
This looks stronger than the Dire Star 7PPC builds

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Jagerbombs 2: Ultra Electric Boogaloo

It's nothing great, but the IS definitely gets lots of ways to squeeze that little extra out of space and/or tonnage now. Couldn't fit LPLs cause you're a ton short? Maybe smugPPC. Or dual LPPC for a PPC when you have a bit more space but not the weight. LFFA can mean maxed armor rather than scraping a few points off a limb to make up for it.

Mildly stupid example done just because:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=12&l=5a2ede19f7e14511618831f5c7ab317191175b21

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=12&l=b24f93d272f6c1b51d76b326d879b4bb08123f83

>>183122297

Spread damage. You shit out immense numbers of missiles, but that's 160 damage splattering all over the robot, not 70 damage to one spot +splash. On the other hand, you probably won't explode as easily.

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>first game of the day I drop in my support kitfox
>only nutech I put on it is a single lams to help extend my ams potential
>loadout is triple ams with ecm and an erll, with four MGs, and a couple flamers
>crimson strait conquest
>we get our side's caps rather slow, enemy already has middle one
>chase enemy cheetah down, another one shows running large(probably heavy large) lasers up so I flamer him and he overheats, then I think he hit override, and ends up cooking himself to death like a tard then instantly left
>do some shit and eventually get a kill on a guy near theta, and help kill another one there
>do some harassing and decide to go into side tunnel entrance to go after a lone king crab underneath the platform
>run and jump all around his slow ass and start toasting him
>some of my teammates show up to help and he has no support, so he tries to make a break for the tunnel
>i'm up his ass the entire time roasting him and he can't do shit, and he eventually overheats when he decides to fight back and gets killed soon after
>almost immediately get pic related messages in chat
>go on to win the game and get the supply cache
>open the cache even though it didn't have anything particularly good and end up getting the one good thing of 500 MC
Damn what a fantastic game. I love this stupid little robot, and I'm really enjoying flamers on it holy shit.

Did they make the IS AC10 heavier?
I'm tinkering with my NCIX shitmech but it feels harder to fit that AC10 than I remember.

I wonder how much Kakos makes as a process technician

>make quad rac5 mauler so I can keep shooting 2 nonstop without jams
>start overheating before the first set jams
Fug

>>183123869

No, but the UAC/10 is heavier than the standard AC/10.

>>183124395

Really Awful Cannons run really hot. Maybe put RAC/5 x2 + UAC/5 x2 or something?

>>183123138

Dan wasn't very cool about that one. I guess you melted his resolve.

holy shit the amount of cockgobbling middleaged steering wheel tards who returned after a long hiatus to check new stuff is off the charts

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>>183122297
you do know that those are rocket launchers on my Cyclops and not MRMs, right

I've got a Smug Pepsi on my Urbie, why don't you?

>>183125214

You didn't expect the first actual new adds to equipment since the Clan release wouldn't dump the entire Clan Steering Wheel force on MWO's servers?

>>183125614
>not 2 Diet Pepsis and 4 Heavy Meme Guns

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But why?

>>183126543
MEMES

>>183126543
Doatech, doatech everywhere

>>183126543

The UAC/2's do give you a chance to brrt out a little more burst, though with AC/2 shots that's not saying much. Plus, higher heat and lower max range.

Not really a good trade for the weight, IMHO.

>>183126543
To which?

That Nova is a solid build as is the Mauler.

>>183126476
>not Light Goose and 3 ERSLs

Clan mechs are literally unplayable now.

I got alpha striked by something with mrms and meme guns and died fresh ct to dead st and ct in 3 seconds flat.

>>183127701
I was under the impression that micros are shit, but I guess boating that much of anything looks kinda fun.

>>183129451
Micros play like trash because they have a ghost heat limit. I don't know why piggy felt the need to give micro lasers and pulses a ghost heat limit after fucking cspl and cersl in the ass but there you go.

>>183129451
They have super low duration so that is the new light killer/pinpoint brawler build. I can't say I've tried it but in the PTS I ran something really similar.

Cent - AL with 3x snout ppcs, gudt or neg?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=28&l=3305bf9bfcdd7692fcebb910b57c299117159910

>>183129451
>>183129863
>>183130105

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIbUaVPAHww

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I sexually identify as a fafnir,

For years I have dreamed of shooting hot loads of hebby goose at disgusting mediums.

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>>183130225
Never fucking mind runs hotter then a oven

>>183131132
he is staying alive way to long.
Talk to someone with high alpha to the face instead of shitmechs.

>>183131739

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=19&l=c80c8632b3cd44a8c1db8b1d3577d740d3a64d07

>>183054814
No side to side hip movement so it doesn't look right

Did they fire an animator or something? Did they forget that hips move in 3 axis?

I made a thing. It is a Vindishitter, but the kwerks line up surprisingly good with the newtech.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=208&l=ae69733cfedf3ccc9d4affd566791921e179ca53

(swap in a few JJs if you want for a heat sink or a ton of ammo)

>>183113802
In tabletop ATM's are either a huge pile of ass or HAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOUUUU

Great brawler weapon

I think clan science boffins also made a streak ATM at some point

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show me your nutech memes. also rate mine

>>183131132
That's not bad for a HMG platform. Do you think a Shitcrow with 3 SRM6 and 11 micropulises would be similarly good?

>>183133278
Do a 4x asrm6 + 7x erul trashcrow.
Ghost heat on micro lasers is over 8.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=185&l=fee1fa048291e8175459a8828b776d2ef86ad6ba

>>183133278
It fits and does almost as much as the old Pulsecrow did, but it's toasty to say the least. Probably better off going full Splat.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=3c36aa3dc90906a686f43a3585b0b80e01e762fa

Anyone elses mwo fuckin crash if you alt tab now?

>>183132921
They're a functional weapon in the source material, because the close combat ammo doesn't have a minimum range. What Piggy turned ATMs into in MWO reminds me of some anon describing RE-lasers in /btg/, I believe it was something like: "But what if the enemy slathers them themselves in peanut butter and plays the bongos while standing on their heads, what will your normal lasers do then??"

And yes the streak ATMs exist, they're Improved ATMs that have access to emp and inferno ammo on top of the normal ones, behave like streaks when fired, and can also turn off the streak function at will to fire indirectly.

>>183133818
I like this setup, only change I'd make if any is add a couple flamers

>>183133215

Also doable in HMG nomnomnom instead for maximum SRM quirkage and no-lube assfucking of your targets:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=148&l=d4468b1d6ddaa874d876a31a31a4e1c85e6d73ce

Not sure how fast HMGs are going to eat through ammo, so you could shift a half-ton or so to SRMs as needed.

>>183134673
Excange the head laser for a head flamer then.
I would keep the pewpew fist in tact.
You could also drop one of the five tons of ammo for an additional heatsink if that's your drift.

>>183134756
i like it even though the weapon armament is just a worse shadowcat

>king crab with 6 rac2s in one weapon group on my team
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>183135345
(:

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>>183135687
He also went basement in HPG
ALONE

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>>183133215
I've been doing surprisingly well with this, it started out as a meme to try and make something that only has new weapons, but by some stroke of chance it's pretty alright. The heavy lasers are super manageable with 20 DHS behind them, and the ATMs are nice for early damage and hitting people outside the range of the heavy lasers.

>>183134991

With huggy-power, it's able to get a lot of SRMs into someone's back armor very, very fast.

Then it's just a matter of a quick reaming with the quad HMGs and something's going to fall apart very fast. Even with the mild downgrade from PTS, three-four HMGs are gruesome on exposed armor.

Dapperjager, modern edition:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=65&l=27e57aa9ae8c7b8928ae6138bd691640c08655b1

>Come back for new tech
>ALL THIS CRAZY SKILL TREE SHIT
So basically I don't need to use 3 chassis's anymore for the good shit is what I'm getting?

>>183137136

Right. You can just grind the chassis you want instead.

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>>183137136
>Every armor hardening node and supposedly new quirks
>My dusty founder boombox's boombox has 71/7 armor
I'm scared of what whacky shit I'll find when I start fucking with other old shit.

>>183135867
I saw a RAC Cyclops under there too. He would sit at the door and back up when shot to lure people in cause there was also a Catapult with max MRMs down there waiting in ambush with him

>Big new update
>Thread still ded

>>183140627
Everyone is too busy playing.

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Had the thought that I'd mix ATMs and LRMs.

So I have ATM6+9 on my Onion IIC's arm, two ALRM15's on the torso, and a pair of ERMLs.

It's a missile-spewing abomination, but fuck if my opponents seem to know what to do with it, especially since there's just enough velocity now on ATMs that I'll dumbfire the things at people at medium/short and actually hit shit.

I dread the first AMS spammer I run into, though.

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>>183140928

>>183140928
Who?

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>>183105860
>7 HMGs

Need to step it up senpai.

>>183141413
>(You)

>>183140627
Love my uziels. Pretty fragile but tons of fun!

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OK, actually liking ATMs. The hit grouping compared to LRMs is a lot better at range between the flatter arc and better spread. Putting 15 of them into a target at medium-short range tears it up in a hurry.

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>>183144665

Of course, we lost because double digit team meme.

>>183144665
>>183144783
who?

I really liked my 6x UAC/5 whale, and I'm considering trying that out on an annihilator.

Would that work or should I stick to 4x ultra 10's?

I'm having fun even though clams got nothing meta.

>>183123950
enough to sustain myself and to grab deal everything i want

>mount LRM-10 in uziel
>clearly has 10 missile ports on the model
>fires in groups of fucking 3

>>183145298
>4UAC10s
>6UAC5s

Neither of these, they're too heavy/hot. 5UAC5 works though.

>>183147951
MRMs fire in streams you dumb fuck.

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One of F-team's missile shitters, of course. Brain Cancer.

Next game I actually had a team that could play and secure kills like a boss. It was fun watching enemy pilots actually recoiling because every time they crested a hill, I was putting 30-45 into their chest with ATMs on dumbfire, zapping them with a few lasers while the lock was working, then chasing them back down the other side with 30 LRMs for good measure.

If these things had no minimum range, I wouldn't even need the lasers.

>>183148682
I said LRM you retarded nigger. Read.

>>183148682

He said "LRM-10", not MRM-10. Those shouldn't stream, Uziel CT missile hardpoints are ten-tube.

>>183148732
>>183148859
lmao running LRMs I didn't think anyone would be that stupid

How do I abbreviate Micro and Micro Pulse Lasers so they don't get confused with MLs and MPLs?

>>183148697
>polar
So if you had LRMs you would've done much more damage

>>183148986
uLs/uPLs.

What's the best Shadowcat variant for HMG-compliant quirkitude?

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>>183149250
The -P.

But fuck HMGs on the Shadowcat, LMGs are where it's at.

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Ah, I see how it is.

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>>183149035

Not really. The 5 kill game was because ATMs spread less, so instead of useless damage, I was putting more damage into torsos, and closer shots meant even more damage. ALRM 30 is nine tons for 30 damage and wider spread. ATM 15 is 8.5 tons for 30 damage at medium range with better clustering (more as you get closer to 270m), and 45 damage in the 121-270 sweet spot. Shit dies faster, you last longer, more work gets done.

I got even got one "FUCK YOU, LRM HAX" today when randumb light decided to run by at 200m or so and I just put 75 damage into his colon with the launchers and boom, dead, as done as if I'd SRMd him instead.

I'm wasting less damage per kill/KMDD, and that's good.

I have no soul but I must boat MGs. Where do I start?

heavy goose only Grid Iron, y/n?

>>183149250
Gee, maybe the only variant that can take the build?

>>183150023
>omnimech
>only variant that can take the build

Not how it works senpai. You shouldn't even worry about variant though, the set of 8 quirks aren't worth it on the -P. The SHC needs to mix omnipods to bring a decent loadout.

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r8 h8

>>183150128
>>183150128
He said which had the best quirks, which is clearly the -P. Beyond that you're right, but still.

Though honestly 6xMG 1xLB10 works alright on it, and you can do that on a pure -P.

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>>183150474

>>183149936
SHC is the general consensus

>>183150697
the hotter it runs the more damage i do :^)

>>183150474

Too much rear torso armor, lasers are a mixed up mess.

Dual L-PPC Lolcust.

XD :DDDDDD

>>183151504
8 is a pretty solid amount for an assault

>>183152006
>not quad L-PPC
Step up senpai.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=250&l=042997fa229f8f5e7e90d1c11b7022d7055293be
*dakka*

>IS Streak SRMs have the same Cooldown as normal SRMs
you wot pgi?

Is the RAC5 DPS value on Smurfy accurate? I put one on my Centurion and it says my maximum sustained DPS is 8.5 instead of 4.8, how can one weapon have so much DPS?

>>183153339
Should be for clans as well. Outside tier 4/5 the lockon is already as much a downside as it is an upside.

>>183153626
because it has a fuckload of facetime & a huge jam cooldown

reminder to bring out your flamer novas, boys