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= NEWS =
>Ultimate Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs
>Geese Howard DLC trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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anna's dress also looks stupid
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Now die
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>>182926875
fuck

previous thread >>182897078
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>>182926974
sos ur face :^)
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lets be real

none give a shit about those legacy character except for maybe anna
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Chances of JJBA character in Tekken?

Please
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asuka is a slut
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>>182927157
we already got a stupid pants bitch
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>>182927090
i'll take the characters that actually have unique fighting styles over a clone character.
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Can u guys imagine if jeondding beat jdcr in that match.
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>>182926545
Julia and Anna are both cool characters with their own distinctive styles
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This is my wife. Please say nice things about her.
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What is Julia's playstyle like?
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>>182927226
anna has more style than any tekken character and if you werent born yesterday youd know that

>>182927294
id cum on her titties and face and hair
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>>182927272
julia is a unique blend of bajiquan and pro wrestling.
anna is nina with punches.
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>>182927294
she has a good succ, I should know
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>>182926948
It also makes it really easy
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>>182927369
she plays like her mom
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>>182927294
she dresses like a slut
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>people bitching about fireballs
>no one ever mentions Kazumi in those arguments against fireballs
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>>182927390
>anna is nina with punches.

That's like, good and cool

Also Nina and Anna being huge assholes trying to screw each other over is a lot more fun than Nina as Jin's flunky
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hey i havent played since taken 3 where did the drunk cop go
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>>182927648
her fireball is literally like juri throwing fireballs
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>>182927648

there's a high damage tiger and a low damage tiger

I only throw the low damage one and a max of 1 times per round

fair, right?
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>>182927648
tiger mom is pure

stop hurting her pussy
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>>182927746
>fireball
>its a tiger
>neither fire or a ball
lol??
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>>182927894
oh sorry i meant from a practicality standpoint
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>>182927785
I throw the high one a lot when opponents are going full gorilla. They tend to run into it a lot
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>>182927369
Julia had one of the most fun and interesting playstyles in 6 and even if they brought her back as Jaycee I'd be happy.

She's kinda a rushdown/poke offense character that forces you to duck or back away. She has a ton of really threatening mids and her command grab Mad Axes was by far and away the best throw in the game. She had a spin stance that she could buffer anything out of. An extremely fun character.
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>>182927294
She made top 8
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>>182927090
I would love Harada unconditionally if he brings Gon back.
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Does that end with Geese falling from a skyscraper hint that there's more story coming?

I mean the story is shitty, but it's fun shitty. I'm always down for more mishima circle jerking
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>>182927495
Incredible

Now they come out clean and not jerky
And I don't shift to one direction anymore
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>>182926875
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BUFF LAW!


Also legacy characters when?
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>>182928169
hopefully. If not then it just means that shot is an homage to when he falls to his "death" in KoF when Terry tries to help him up on the roof of the skyscraper.
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>>182928385
>tfw at first glance I thought her right leg was a gun
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>>182928169
That's just a reference to Geese's "death(s)" in Fatal Fury.
Maybe he gets his own one fight thing with that in the ending.
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Remember when we actually thought they were gonna bring some legacy characters back?
I-I mean, I didn't believe it either. Haha...
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>>182928850
Those are Free DLC and could theoretically come at any time.
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>>182927102
How do they animate this? It's fucking great. All these little details in this game. Is it mocap and edited with editing? Or just literally from scratch /rigging/skeleton
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>>182928994
i think they used mocap even for the very first tekken, like that was part of the 3d gimmick at the time, so they probably still use it
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>>182928850
We haven't even gotten Eliza yet
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>>182927102
>she's nude under that sweater
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>>182929409
but is she nude under her benis
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Gyaru asuka is my wife
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>>182927102
>>182929409
tanllines asuka
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WHERE
IS
ELIZA
HARADA
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>>182929986
she's in your bed, go look
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>>182929986
She's with me, anon.
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who could they add as dlc
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>>182930275
well it seems in japan the fighting game companies kinda feel like they're all in it together, so it could be anyone, imagine if it were sakura lol i'm hoping for someone from soul calibur personally, hilde maybe (jks)
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>>182930275
2b
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>>182930275
someone from VF or doa
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>>182929306
Motion capture started in Tekken 3, hence why legacy T1 are silly
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add the the first fighting game character

he would be there to teach all the kiss whats what
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Kazuya is retarded hard to play Jesus Christ
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>>182930884
Lmao no he isn't
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>>182930884

Not hard just high execution.
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>>182930498
and aigis, and that robot catgirl maid from that weird ghost in the shell loli spin off
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>>182931096
If he's not hard how come I still can't win games even though I can consistently PEWGF
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>>182931215
because you're bad at Tekken?

execution means nothing if you can't implement it in other elements of solid play
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why the hell do people keep memeing 2b when there is literally(literally) a robot girl already in the game?
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>>182931096
Nah straight up hard..

His poking is terrible and his 50/50 game is just alright. Sure hellsweep/mid is a decent mixup but u don't really have monster mids to take advantage when people duck (which most do against Kaz) he has no low crush launcher which is fucking shitty and his coming moves are short range
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>>182931943
Scrub
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>>182932158
t. Jdcr
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>>182931943

Kazuya is a defensive turtle character, his punishment is rock solid and so what that he doesn't have a low crush launcher, his WS2 is crazy good that can be use to do that 3 hit combo that launches your opponent off the ground. Stop trying to play him as other characters.
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>People dodge me
>I play Nina
The scrub mentality really is mind boggling
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>Hei's df1,2 is guaranteed if f4 catches them ducking.
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>>182932425
His punishment isn't "Rock solid" it's just okay. U have to really train yourself to block punish with an electric. As for me just playing Kaz it's frustrating to see a -14 move and u get a b1,2 to punish it because u can't pre input the forward like bryans jet upper.

Jin and Lars have "rock solid" punishment. Kazuya has rewarding punishment but it's difficult.

His ws2 is not even that good. It's launch punishable on block AND it's i16 lol. It's just okay. To get the full potential u gotta use it out of your wavedash when they expect a hellsweep. But why even use it instead of ws12 or ws3 for the homing knockdown
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>>182928385
I know it won't but man the season pass should bring those guest artist costumes back
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>>182933097

Email Harada then.
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Somebody explain Anna's playstyle to me please.
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>>182933495
well you know nina? that
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Any experienced Raven mains out there?
Anyone willing to drop some tips for me starting to pick her up?Transitioning from Xiaoyu.
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i haven't played a tekken game since 5, is eddy still the main party character?
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>>182933495
Fc mix-ups
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>>182933761
framewhisperer just released a tutorial for her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vMl93tjpCc he lives in Japan, plays with really good players and thinks she's top tier
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how to beat Law players i hate him so much
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>>182933495
Um, a more punchy and less mobility based Nina I guess?

I never mained either so I've probably horrified someone who does
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What's the point of picking a character you like when you're just going to 50/50 someone to death anyway? I'm serious, older fighting games didn't do this shit where if you happen to hit them low, great, dial a combo and if you happen to launch them mid, great, dial a combo.
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When is Geese released?
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>>182934391
didn't they?
but i did like tekken more when the juggles were like a special thing here and there not the main damage system
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how are there some characters that take me to grandmaster in less than 10 wins and others where I'm stuck on 2nd dan at more than 100?
I thought this game was supposed to be balanced
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>>182933941
>she's top tier
That's a relief. Xiaoyu has spoiled me in that sense.
Will check it out. Thanks
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>>182935102
Balanced on high level doesn't mean same as balanced for braindead people.
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>>182934654
Games like 3rd strike and older marvel weren't about the 50/50. Marvel 2 was way more about brutal high/low mixups and constant pressure and there was almost no guessing in 3rd strike because you were already buffering a parry for one of the few options you actually had to worry about in the first place.

It has to be an accessibility thing so that newcomers don't have to grind for a year before they can even play a fighting game competently.
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>>182935179
no problem have fun.

i wish i could find a character i liked. i have all these resources but nothing plays like Ganryu.
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>tfw can't decide who to make your secondary character
>tfw insecure that your main is Jack and don't want to seem like a tier whore
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>>182935782
Jack's low tier they said
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>>182935782
But Jack is low tier anon. Haven't you seen the lists? He sucks
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>>182935782
I have too many options on secondary characters, but suck ass with main, so gotta focus.
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>>182935782
alisa, then you're 'that robot fag,' a worthy title
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how's claudio, /tekgen/? all i know is hopkick is insane and he's got the anime hand.
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>>182936661
i think he's just mid tier, he's a cool guy if you like that snarky dandy archetype
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>>182936863
yeah that sounds about right. i'm having trouble finding a main and he seems fairly simple with good chunky damage moves you can throw out and a shitload of damage off of combos with starburst.

i was either going to play him or feng.
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>>182936661
Anime as fuck out of 10.
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Been maining Eliza. Thinking of using Lili as a sub. What's her playstyle like?
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>>182937372
what rank are you
I want to main eliza because her moves are so cool but I started at 3rd dan literally got demoted to first, I think shes just too bad thats never happened to me before
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>>182937519
>>182937519
Brawler. I haven't played much since I have some personal stuff to take care of but what are you having trouble with, if you don't mind me asking.
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>>182936661
he's the party character of Tekken 7. you can just kinda do shit with him. Hopkick is insane, WR2 is insane, Starbust gives him some of the highest damage combos in the game.

Lots of his normals just have a bunch of oomf for no reason, tons of his shit is -9 on block so very difficult to punish. The arrows from Starbust are decent against scrubs online.

Claudio parties harder than any capo character, AND he's super fucking easy, AND nobody plays him. Go go zeppeli.
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>oh shit I'm losing because I'm a shitty low green
>passes the controller to his destroyer friend
t. tekken 7 ranked
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>>182937372
>tfw main lili
>want to sub eliza but harada doesnt let me
im new and bad so i cant really tell you anything about her
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>>182936508
I already tried out Alisa. Both are defensive, poke heavy characters. I am looking for someone more offensive-heavy
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>>182927090
I'd want Baek, Wang and Lei. Maybe even Ganryu. It's a struggle to find a likeable character from the roster right now.
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>>182927102
I thought they removed bound from the game :^)
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juggling should be made illegal
noobs just go to practice mode and learn one juggle and spam it nonstop its so fucking annoying
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At what point in the series did they decide to take some of the existing clone characters and develop them into their own characters?
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Okay looking for some decent questions here.

So with Akuma and Geese being guest characters in Tekken 7, who do you think the next one could be? If I could make a guess judging Akuma and Geese I get the feeling the next guest character will be someone well known, from another company, from an actual fighting game and possibly a boss in that game. I'm scratching my head who could fill that roll, any suggestions?
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>>182938718

FFS I meant to say answers.
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>>182927090
I sure give more shit about them than any of the new characters which are either totally uninspired or SF-esque characters that don't belong to Tekken. Man T7 is such a downgrade in every aspect (that have changed) except graphics.
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>>182938718
Someone from arcsys will be there, most likely a guilty gear character.
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>>182938718
hopefully super mario from super smash bros
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time to pick up akuma now that he's an evo champion
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>>182938868

But who though? Not only that but considering the tone Tekken is trying to keep I don't know if Arcsys has any characters that isn't too extreme in the design department. Any suggestions?
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So what the fuck happened? JDCR and Knee are on good terms now? The handshake after the match and a little bit of talking. Echo Fox Knee when?
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>>182938718
big boss, or holy shit, imagine revolver ocelot
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>>182938707
Tekken 4, basically
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I'm glad that FF players get someone they can play as and all
but I really wish it wasn't another character that breaks the rules of Tekken.
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>>182939239

>but I really wish it wasn't another character that breaks the rules of Tekken.

Yeah the exclusive meter stuff is not only a bullshit advantage over most of the cast, it also feels like a gimmick. I like RA but I'll be damned if an ex meter becomes standard on Tekken characters. I don't want that in Tekken, keep that in other fighting games.
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>>182936661
Fun. If you like Lee, you'll like him. Not because of the playstyle, but because they're both extremely flamboyant
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>>182939462
How is it a bullshit advantage? The trade off for having a meter is that moves that aren't meter specials are unsafe as hell and almost always launch punishable.
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>>182939462
honestly it would be better if he didn't have a FADC cancel like in the trailer

>>182939598
because it's still easy to build meter. even with 1 bar you can do an insane amount of damage
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Made it to brawler today with Nina!
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>tfw want to try out some of the "advanced" characters but feel intimidated

Should I? Or should I try mastering a basic bitch character like Lars first?
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BOW BEFORE ME
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>>182939637
if Akuma has FADC there's no reason Geese shouldn't have his MAX cancel
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>>182939667
It never hurts to try out new characters, you might find someone that really clicks with you
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just ran into a guy using a throw break script lmao
i know it was a script because out of the 2 matches we played he broke about 30 grab attempts(mixed them up with command + normals, he even broke any tackles)yet was absolute shit at the game. Think he was using combo macros too. On a mishima of course. Never missed an electric.
Still won both times but wow what a fag.
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>>182939678
fuck this retarded shit wtf
theres so many characters from a video game called TEKKEN that aren't around any more that would be fuckin nice to play again
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>>182939637
You can pressure the other opponent into wasting his meter to stop that pressure or bait it out. For Eliza, meter burn in combos isn't recommended at all. It's wasteful. In turn, you can easily bait out her meter divekick, meter DP, or meter reppuken.
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>>182939818
>TEKKEN
never heard about it
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>>182939747
Throws are not hard to break unless you're using king.
Electrics aren't that hard either when you practice it.
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>>182939818
It's almost as if the season pass characters are GUEST characters. No shit they'll be like Akuma and Geese.
The option for Legacy characters isn't gone just because of guest characters being added. Harada has already stated that if legacy characters are added, they'll be free.
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there's a genbu alisa in quick matches... should i go for it?
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>>182940476
Yes
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>>182939818
>theres so many characters from a video game called TEKKEN that aren't around any more that would be fuckin nice to play again

there's only like maybe 3-4 of them that aren't clones

and they were in the last game

where most people didn't play them
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I am a Paul main.
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>>182940476
That's me
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>>182940758
Bless you
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>>182940839
hey don't post my wife
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>>182939995
>Harada has already stated that if legacy characters are added, they'll be free.

Well sure, he said that he wouldn't charge for classic Tekken characters. However I don't think he ever even hinted at the chance of adding them post-release. And why the fuck would he? The game has been doing well, some people complain about the missing characters but there hasn't been exactly any massive outrage over them. What would be the incentive for him giving anything for free, given that most of the Tekken community has sucked Harada's dick without complains because of T7, even with the worse customization, even when it's mostly just TTT2 with Tag removed and some minor mechanics added?
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>>182935306
>there was almost no guessing in 3rd strike
wut
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some of kings move are just so fucking stupid
>if stagger kicks hit you on CH at the end he gets a free whatever he wants
>the leaping jackhammer does a full fucking 180 even if you dodge it
>that fucking delayable 3 punch launcher
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>>182935306
I tried but I can't find a reaction picture for the amount of retardation in your post
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>>182940969
fuck i wish this game was anything like ttt2
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>>182940948
No pain no gain.
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>>182934006
If he crouches at any point expect junkyard or slide, if he does one backflip do not push buttons or you will get launched by the second one guaranteed. Bait out unsafe moves with good movement and punish. Most laws are so busy mashing they use unsafe ass shit and have piss poor defense. Be happy you aren't playing against Leo or Josie who both do the same thing as Law but is harder to counter.
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Dumb noob question: How do other Leos manage to sweep me while I'm on the ground and then hit me? I can only sweep people on ch
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So can someone give me a run down on the defensive options in Tekken?

I know you can parry; is that universal for every character? Also you can perform some of quick get up, right? How do you do that?

For that matter, what should I be looking out for in wake-up game in general, both when I'm on the floor and when my opponent is.
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>>182940706
Not him but there was quite a bit of diversity in movesets. A lot of characters are super bloated now due to Harada's genius idea of just throwing shit onto new characters that other ones had.
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>>182941174
I don't mind king for the most part but that giant jumping unblockable shit he does makes me vehemently angry every time because it tracks even if you go under him to the other side, he will do a complete mid air 180 degree turn and hit you with it. King shouldn't have some of the shit that he does on top of being a great grappler character.
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>>182940968
beat me in tekken then
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>>182939678
Is it sad that I'm more excited for his stage than I am for him? It looks cool and the music might not be shit for once.
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Which character(s) is the best at opening people up?
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>>182941549
If you get launched, you have two "safe"ish options. One you sit on the ground and let them mash mids and miss and eat a low or something, or you tech towards or away from whatever threat is pressuring you from. Be careful tech rolling though because at the higher ranks people predict or watch your tech and might move with your roll or jump over you a reset. Use this info in reverse if you're the attacker. A lot of the times a low launcher or throw after they try to get away from the wall works fine.
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Got my ass kicked by green Eddies, I literally don't know how to react to him. Any tips?
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>>182941996
Tech rolling is what again, pressing a direction the minute you hit the ground?
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>>182941807
Ok faggot
Post steam/psn id
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>>182941915
Josie if you're literally a scrub, Nina or Hwoarang if you know what you're doing, and to a lesser extent Dragunov Although Josie probably works the best for the effort needed in this case.
Once a Josie starts pressing buttons she pretty much assures that the enemy will not be able to press anything without eating a CH launcher for big damage. Fucking obnoxious character to play against.
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>>182942141
it's pressing a punch or kick button the moment you hit the ground

punch rolls you to the background, kick to the foreground
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>>182942141
Yeah pressing 1 or 3 or whatever the second you hit the ground. You can just mash on the button and it'll work, it's not execution heavy or anything
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>>182930275
Shao Kahn the Conqueror of Worlds
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>>182942014
Handle him the same way you handle Ling. Go into practice mode and find all your moves that hit the fuckers that abuse the crush of AOP/Relaxed Stance, and spam those. Respect his range and find out which of his lows Launches. Luckily unlike Ling, a lot of Eddy's shit is unsafe so if it looks like it's got a windup you can punish it.
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>>182930275
JACK-O
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>>182938718
Gwyn, Lord of Cinder. That shit would be lit.
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how good is the cpu in tekken 7? does it a good job at teaching the game?
as a complete noob, should i train against the computer or just hop into online matches?
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>tekken 7 first fighting game
>try akuma
>meh, feels clunky and i suck and dont know how to do anything
>discover focus cancel
AYYY THAT'S SO SICK
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>>182942149
Whatever you do, don't dodge. Unless we're like 2-3 bars or something

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198042010266/
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>>182938718
Harada said in the past that if he jad to choose two, he'd choose Geese and a not-fighting game character.
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>>182942651
If you want to get better as quickly as possible, jump straight into online. Fighting against CPU is useful for getting used to the core mechanics and gameplay but it will also teach you some bad habits. However some people make a too big deal out of this in my opinion - you will adapt, and a lot of it is just being less predictable. You can already when you are fighting CPU avoid being too predictable to mitigate the possible negative effects this way. And you probably won't get bodied as badly when you get to online than you would have if you would have went straight to it.
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>>182942651
I was told by a tripfag in this thread to not go online until I was TGP offline. I did that and have recently tried some ranked and I am only just Blue rank after a couple of months. I would jump straight into it dude if you're in a hurry to rank up. Offlime is good for just seeing which character you find fun, but even then I wouldn't recommend it- speaking as a new player myself. Tbh just pick the character you like the look/lore of, with the exception of Nina and Kazuya because they will be too difficult.
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Steve. Claudio. Miguel. Which should I main?
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>>182943362
Miguel.
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>>182943293
>I was told by a tripfag in this thread to not go online until I was TGP offline. I did that
big mistake bruv
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>>182943102
>>182943293
thanks guys, i'll prepare my butt and go for online matches.
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>>182943293
just dont ever listen to what any tripfag has to say
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>>182943293
Don't ever listen to Lucifer. I hope you didn't pick up any bad habits by doing so.
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>>182942898

>Harada said in the past that if he jad to choose two, he'd choose Geese and a not-fighting game character.

When he said not fighting game character does that exclude beat em ups? Streets of Rage comes to mind of characters that could be put in the game.
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How DLC is going isn't very good at keeping interest, which is the whole point of DLC.

Geese looks great but is months away, possibly late winter. Tekken bowl is neat but it isn't a mode I will put that much time in, the costume update is nowhere to be found and is probably just what we are missing from arcade. But worst no more legacy characters, to be real Geese is not that well known outside the FGC (but mexico but everyone loves him, KoF14 sold like shit so no) while their are legacy characters people love who are missing.

I like that they are focused on fixing issues with the game, but you need a little fluff to keep people's eyes focuses. Even a few costumes a month does that
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STOP DODGING ME
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>>182942898
>>182943537

Like Blaze.
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>>182943293
>listening to a tripfag

I have no sympathy for you
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>>182943616
>no more legacy characters

Man, you people are all doom and gloom. Nowhere has Harada stated that there won't be any legacy characters added. If the season pass was made to fund an extra year of support, then legacy characters can still be added and for free. The addition of guest characters does not remove the possibility of legacy characters being added.
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>>182943616
>which is the whole point of DLC
no, the whole point of dlc is making more money with content that should have been in the game at launch.
players hate it, devs hate it but publishers fucking love it.
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>>182944089
DLC in a fighting game is generally not story content tho. Its extra characters/costumes/stages/meme game modes like tekkenbowl
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>>182944034
See >>182940969 and >>182944089
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>>182944034
They haven't announced or hinted at any. If there was any coming why instead show a character that is not coming for months? Again not like Geese is that big, FF and KoF are pretty dead. Meanwhile casuals and players know old Tekken characters.

So maybe next year we might get one, great production line there.

>>182944089
If you don't keep an audience around you don't make money. Games these days are platforms for content, especially multiplayer stuff.
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>>182943616
>a completely new character with new mechanics to Tekken will fail at keeping interest but my clones and snowflake characters no one plays will
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>>182944431
>a completely new character
not even right about style, he is our third fireball 2D-like character now with parry
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>>182944372
Because people paid for a Season Pass and want to know what's included? Like that anon said, the possibility of all your favorite characters being added is still possible.
Besides, not many people played those characters, judging by the relative lack of outrage for them.
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>>182943378
Will do anon. Will post updates on how my first match goes in a few weeks.
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>>182944568
>thinking they all play the same

I see you haven't bothered to actually play Akuma and Eliza. >>182944568
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>>182944604
Tag 2 had some new characters that nobody asked for.
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>Lars is so based he has his own theme for twilight conflict
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZl4-dsqZrQ
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>>182944604
Wasn't there a bunch of pissing and moaning over Lei? He's the only really egregious absence though.
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>>182944604
Then why not reveal everything in it? Why not also reveal the other characters so people know the dlc that is coming?

If the answer to the first is building hype, legacy characters also do that

> is still possible.
Great, I don't want to be waiting a year to get some old characters back. Hell I'd take some new ones that are more Tekken like.

> relative lack of outrage
Just cause people want to suck the games dick more than complain doesn't change when there is an issue. There are a lot of issues really, people just aren't flying off the handle cause it isn't SFV
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>>182944727
And what? What does that change about anything I've said?

>>182944803
Yep for Lei. I just don't like when people cry about guest characters and thinking legacy characters won't ever be added, even though the possibility STILL EXISTS.
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>>182944886
>even though the possibility STILL EXISTS.
The game could get an update that makes it pachinko, capcom could fix chuns face and and DBZF could turn out not to be the best thing man has ever created.

possibility means fuck all
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is hwoarang as hard to learn as people say? im trying him now and he's really clicking for me
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>>182944885
>why not reveal everything in it?
Literally no one does this.

>don't want to wait a year
Not sure why you're so hung up on that. There's nothing stopping them from releasing legacy characters in the coming months if they were so inclined.

>doesn't change when there's an issue
There is no issue. You're making it into one. The only issues the game has are the following: input lag, shitty tournament system, rank and character information in warm up (pc), no infinite rematches (pc), removal of dark colors, etc.
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>>182945169
Except it could very well be likely. None of the things you mentioned are likely to happen, if at all.
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>>182944737
>written and performed by Swedish weaboos

HOW FUCKING FITTING
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Finally dropped gigas boys.
Now I need to pick a new main.

Honest robot of robot skills
Boxing man of stances
Silent man of autism
Robot lady of gimmicks
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I'm just glad that Kiryu fags got BTFO with that dlc.
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>>182945767
robo lady. good tutorial released for her recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vMl93tjpCc
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>>182945767
PLAY THE Robot LADY
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>>182945776
Now we get to listen to them whine about him not being announced. What kind of retard do you have to be to expect a guest character they'd have to build from scratch as DLC anyways?
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>>182945767
Claudio
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>>182945176
to learn and beat scrubs online is very very easy. to learn to play solid and compact is hard.
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Anyone recommend a good laptop I can quickly buy to play this? Will be out of state for a while and as you can probably guess, I can't take my pc with me.
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>>182945818
>robot lady
>raven
???
pretty sure he's talking about Alisa
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>>182939056
Slayer or Terumi. Maybe Relius via time travel shenanigans.
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>>182939056
Aria
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>>182945176
i'm also trying to learn Hwoarang and I'm having a ton of problems, I can't find any guides or anything. can you help me out?
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>>182939056
Sol I guess? They could tone down the aerial shit, but still keep the iconic attacks. We already have a gunflame type attack in the game so it's not anything new.
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>>182946174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS98Nb03Loo
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>>182946243
i did not know tag2 stuff transferred over to T7. thanks.
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why is this so dead on pc?
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Thanks to Aris people now make fun of commentators saying "Let's go". But another one really stupid thing they say (Aris included) is "trying to tie up the round count". I mean duh, you might as well say that he's trying to win. Not that I myself wouldn't say bunch of stupid Captain Obvious shit if I were a commentator, it must be tough trying to say something worthwhile all the time. So it's definitely understandable that they do that.
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>be new
>3rd dan
>green player challenges me
>dodge him cause i don't feel like being a punching bag
>challanges me again
>dodge again
>Steam message "Lmao stop dodging me, you must be so bad pussy"
>mfw he's right
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PC PATCH WHEN?
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>>182946440
>>182946440
Go to practice mode scrub
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>>182946440
dont post reviewbrah next to such a pathetic message
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>>182946323
not everything does but most things do
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>shirtless bob isn't a thing
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>>182939056
You think there would be trouble if they did mild redesigns to have there characters not look so outlandish by comparison? Nothing to the point of them being unrecognizable, but something like Mai in DOA5 or Lloyd in SC Legends.
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>>182946440
i'm so bad people don't even play rematches against me because it's boring to them. goml
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I want arakune in this game. Imagine the salt?

I like playing jack 7 but people keep telling me i'm only playing him cause he's flavor of the tournaments.

>TFW I played gun jack as a kid
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>>182946440
Well at least you aren't a green rank actively seeking challenge fron 3rd dans
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I'm sure this gets asked a lot but I just got the game and I'm fucking awful at fighting games, what are good characters to start learning with?
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whoever you think is cool or fun
tiers dont really matter and you only have to use a small portion of the move list to be effective with most of the cast anyway
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>>182947000
The bears are awesome learning characters. You'll love playing them for two months until you drop the game and never look at it again.
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>>182945767
>dropped gigas
don't fucking talk to be, boy
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>>182947000
Leo, Bob, Lars
But anyone should be fine as long aas you don't pick memelords like yoshimitsu
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>>182947000
try Kazuya or Nina
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>>182947000
I wouldn't recommend gimmick heavy characters because they can easily teach you bad habits. But if you must you can start out with the bears or yoshi and become a Master of memes.
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>>182945952
>being a fag
No.
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>>182947105
>>182947221
>>182947352
>>182947353
Thanks. I'll play around with a few of those and see what I like the feel of. Also joystick or dpad? Or should I just be using a keyboard, I've got no fucking idea. A fightstick is probably not an option until I'm more invested.
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>>182947487
dpad for sure :^)
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>>182947148
Buddy show me your gigas rank and if it's higher than mine i'd concede i'm just a shitter.
>>182947487
Just use keyboard or pad unless you grew up/enjoy arcade sticks. I use a stick because I grew up with a few american arcade games to play.

>I'm still better at king on pad. I dropped king when I started using a stick.
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>>182947487
kazuya or nina is a joke post dont even bother with nina
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>>182947487
Use a Keyboard with a Hitbox layout.
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>tfw don't like Lili because of scrubs spamming her slides and flips
>finally decided to try her out
>she's actually fun
Her juking game is strong and she has similar commands to Raven. I'm in love with this rich brat.
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>>182924460
>People actually think KBD is hard on a keyboard
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I almost feel bad for Street Fighter players after seeing that abomination while we get based Geese

Now we just need Jam Kuradoberi
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when playing online, does it matter which side you pick?
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>>182947573
Movement on d-pad isn't really instant since you have to slide your thumb across it.
On keyboard you use separate fingers for both directions.
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>>182946327
because it's work hours in eu and sleep hours in usa
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>>182947753
Personally, SOCD backdash canceling feels clunky as hell to perform. I usually play fighters on keyboard when it's an option, but KBD is so much smoother and faster on a pad when you get the hang of it. And it's not like I use some cheap membrane keyboard, tried both cherry browns and reds. Maybe it's better on hitbox.
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>>182947000
these two >>182947105 >>182947352 are epic memelords, dont listen to them.

good characters to start with are ones that don't rely on too many gimmicks or characters that aren't super execution heavy. avoid the mishimas (heihachi, kazuya, devil jin), nina, akuma because they've all got super heavy execution barriers. gimmick characters like the bears or alisa aren't great to start with because you're learning the character, not tekken. some characters have lots of different stances, like hwoarang, master raven, steve, and ling, and that can be daunting and complex.

good beginner characters are simple and rely on basic things like good pokes from neutral, smart strings, etc, that every single character in the game takes advantage of and provide a good foundation for branching out into more complex characters later on if you're interested. characters like miguel, dragunov, jack, bob, lars, leo, asuka etc are pretty good to start out with.

ultimately learning tekken in general is gonna seem kinda difficult at first. no matter who you pick if you know what it is you need to learn before you start playing with gimmicks and execution-based stuff you can play anyone and learn the game, but don't expect to perform as well as you would with miguel at mentor rank if you're playing steve.
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>>182948057
It does not, the camera just gets flipped to suit your preference
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>>182948186
cool, thanks.
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I can't connect Asuka's combo ender (fF21)
The 1 always whiffs, with the exception of the combos that don't make the opponent fly off too far, is this normal?

I've tried holding the sprint for longer, but of course that results in a different move.
It feels like the only input I can possibly execute the move with doesn't work, am I waiting too long?

Or too little?
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master raven is so fucking fun. why is nobody playing her? she's fun as hell AND top tier.
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>>182947753
Pretty sure inputting db like that won't work in T7
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>>182948394
It works
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>>182948172
Appreciate it.
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>>182947487
Keyboard is absolutely fantastic. Can't look at dpads anymore.
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>>182948507
Get a hitbox it's even better.
Just don't get the shill version, make your own it's super cheap
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>>182948285

Ah, almost forgot
Some people have told me to buffer a sprint, how do I do that?
I figure I'd just input a sprint while I'm still locked in the previous move, but how would that work, since 2 needs to be pressed in sync with ff?

Even if I buffer the sprint I won't be able to do the move after
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So should I just throw out hopkicks sometimes hoping it crushes a low or just hits them

I sure as hell can't hopkick lows on reaction
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>>182947573
i think it's generally more an issue with it being quite easier to get diagonal inputs by accident. theoretically fighting games should be able to get over that just by having like 'virtual switches' that mimic the mechanism of an arcade stick, but they don't for whatever reason.

i think for a controller a dpad with more sensitivity would be the best, like compared to arcade buttons for instance, you have to push a dpad quite hard, if you could just slide your thumb around super freely that'd be best.
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>>182947776
i don't think an guilty gear character would be good really, they're too weird, i hope with get a doa girl, they'd fit right in
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>>182949446
if the low is slow enough to react to it, it will generally be ws launcher punishable on block
if it's not, then you weren't blocking it on reaction anyway

essentially a hopkick is a heavier committal option of defense against lows, it gives you more reward against fast lows that may not have been heavily punishable otherwise, but less reward agaisnt the really slow ones, at the price of potentially getting punished yourself if you use it at the wrong time

tl;dr use hopkicks as a lowcrush based on a read, not randomly or on reaction
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>Mishima's have crazy eyebrows
>Akuma and Geese and have no eyebrows and rival their power
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>>182948285
is that not one of the ones you need to side step for?
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>Akuma
>Now Geese
>2 more Guest Characters

Are they going with a villain theme?
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>>182948172
is nina that bad if you're willing to put up with the execution? she seems to be the most appealing character to me
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>>182949446
yes more or less. hopkicks are offensive, you do them when you want to hurt them and you're hoping they'll be trying to stop you with a low.

if they're trying to offend you with a low, you try and stop them by blocking or low parrying, or using orbital type stuff. a hop kick in that case would be high risk/high reward, and more stupid than brave most of the time.
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>>182950057
she's one of the most rewarding characters, lots of options, play her
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If Tiers don't matter why no Gigas?

Also is Chloe officially not lowest tier?
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>>182949934
geese is the first guest character so we should only get one more
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>>182950241
Gigas is in his own tier.
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>>182934006
Play Feng and don't fall for his slides.
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>>182947578
Different anon here, mine is Juggernaut. You can win with him but play whoever you want.
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>11 count losing streak

Man, I suck. Although, I am new to Tekken in general
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>>182950851
who are you playing?
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>>182950965
Steve.
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>>182950995
steve is very technical and lacks a lot of scrub friendly tools, don't be discouraged
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>>182950995
wew lad
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>>182951045
I'm not. The biggest problem is that I really can't combo for shit
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>>182951081
learn a basic juggle
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>Aris uploads a video about defending against Katarina
>Decide to watch it later thinking I won't play vs a Kat
>First match of the day is vs a Kat
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>>182949851

No, you just sprint and hit the enemy's feet after the tailspin
Problem is, it whiffs
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>>182951145
you can duck during her mashy 4 string after the thrust kick and launch her ass
you're welcome
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bamco is the publisher of Dark Souls, right?
doesn't that mean we could potentially get a dark souls character for tekken? imagine getting gwyn or ornstein as a character. that'd be so sick
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Why is watching a Jack-7 match so boring?
All he does is poking for a minute straight, really turned me off during the Evo finals.
So glad JDCR switched to Drago and wiped the floor with that boring ass robot..
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>>182951265
Yeah, she caught me off guard in the first match because it was my first time playing against her

I won the rematch because she was constantly spamming that
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>>182951326
theres a higher probability of krillin being in tekken than anything from dark souls
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>>182946440
Why are you doing this?
I always hope for better players to challenge me, it feels wierd to beat up scrubs and you dont learn anything from it.
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Does this port forward sit really improve connection or is it just a meme?
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i'm a total scrub and i just won my first match

i'm so happy now
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>>182951482
Congrats, it feels very satisfying
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>>182950241
Gigas is bruv tier
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what kind of name is geese anyway
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>>182951802
Ask SNK. They're weird when it comes to english
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>>182951802
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Fuck King sub humans
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>>182951414
I agree, but I think thats a bridge too far
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What character plays similar to Nina but isn't as difficult to use?
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>>182952115
95% of online King players are nothing but bitch scrub ass lag gimmicks.
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>>182952253
just play gitgud
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>>182951802
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>>182952392
kek
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>>182952115

Was this you?
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>>182952392
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>>182952436
lmao
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>>182952436
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>>182952436
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I N F I N I T E
R E M A T C H
W H E N
H A R A D A
A
R
A
D
A
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alright fuckers
i've never played a fighting game in my life, which waifu do i autistically main?
i've peaked at 2700mmr in Cataclysm and d2 in league
i'm thinking Nina
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>>182952713
Josie!
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which (female) character has the sluttiest outfits?
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>>182952713
Kazumi desu
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Dealing with win quits is hard. Sure they're already admitting defeat but I still want to fuck them up.
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>>182952771
Panda.
She doesn't wear any clothes.
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>>182952713
josie
>>182952771
eliza because of boobs expanding bikini
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>play paul
>keep fucking up and getting df+4 instead of d+4 when trying to demoman

Feels badman
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>>182952827
i dont have eliza pls screenshot that for me brah
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I probably wont even play Geese because both Akuma and Eliza control like ass but hes still cool
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Does disconnecting affect win streaks? I'm on a 9 win streal but my net suddenly died.
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>>182952436

Hardcore.
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>>182951802
It reminds you that you have to duck
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>>182952790
a win quit is when they win and then leave
how is that admitting defeat and how do you plan to fuck them up when you just lost
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>>182952974
i dont have her either but someone might post the webm
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>>182953314
Because they know they would lose so they just run away
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One day I'm gonna stop being a mega pussy and play online, I swear. Let me just do a little more tutorial. Just a little more. Maybe another 80 hours.
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im new to fightan games

why hitboxes/keyboards have a bad reputation?
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>Two guess characters from two different fighting game series
>Both are villains and bosses

I CAN SEE IT HAPPENING
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>>182953458
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>>182953716
ok seriously

What is that fucking thing on her crotch? An Ovipositor?
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>>182953815
A fuck spike.
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>>182948172
>tfw first fighting game and maining Nina and doing fine so far

Can even do some full chain throws which is fun because people forget Nina is a grappler like King
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>>182953458
bruv
>>
dick punches are so strong
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>>182953607
How are hitboxes and keyboards related?
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I hope they don't chicken out and make Geese's counter good
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>>182952253
Lei
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>>182952860
how do you fuck up d+4
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tfw you do 80% of the round with Jin's db+3 and then win with df+1,4 when he finally starts ducking
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Got you! Now what?
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I only ever practice electrics and wavedashing on the left side but I'm so much better at it on the right side

Anyone else like this?
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>be Namco
>makes Capcom vs SNK
Absolute madman.
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>>182954000
isnt in the same? moving with 4 fingers on 4 buttons?
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Holy shit Lili is unga as fuck
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>>182954378
>low sweeps you into launcher combo
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>>182954545
I don't think I understand your question, are you talking about playing using a controller or a keyboard?
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>>182953607
Fighting games traditionally were played using joysticks or controllers (games were usually played at arcades or consoles).
So some people are screeching because you are using something different.
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Oh. Jesus. Matchmaking takes forever. No wonder you guys always post here.
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>>182955126
t.ps4
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>>182954987
>>182954000
i think you're confused. he's talking about this thing, not the ingame hitboxes of characters.
it's an arcade stick with buttons instead of a stick, it works basically like a keyboard.
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>>182955242
Yeah my bad, I'm also new to fg and don't know much about these

Thanks!
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tfw just played an alisa for the first time ever
unblockable rage art or something?
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>>182954626
>yfw when they can't react to a 30f low
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>>182955242
Why are the left and right buttons all crowded together like that?

>>182941854
I felt the same way honestly, but at least it's not Abigail.
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what is the tekken equivalent of this
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>>182955414
I think it's a high, so that's why maybe you had trouble
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>>182951482
I'm proud of you
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>>182955512
she did it from full screen and I was holding back but it hit me. didnt even press any buttons
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>>182955614
Try holding down instead, you can punish it when the animation finishes
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I'm so fucking bad with bryan, should i just give up and pick another side character? maybe something with tiddies
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>>182955738
josie!
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>>182955414

It's blockable all right. Medium or high, can't remember. What's crazy about it is that it's safe on block.
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>>182955485
you cant react if youre on the ground.
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>>182955486
because b,d,f are used much more than up, and so you can just slide your fingers to perform a qcf or hcf
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>>182953607
They are considered too good (unfair) and things that are designed to be difficult like electrics become easy with them.
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So is using a hitbox a meme or no?
I'll be entirely honest until halfway through this thread I hadn't even known they existed, but they look pretty neat.

And does anyone know of any good guides for building one?
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>>182956135
people respect you if you use keyboard but hate you if you use hitbox, seems really strange seeing as you cant bring a keyboard to a tournament
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>>182956249
So wait, you can't bring a keyboard, but hitboxes are tournament legal?
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>yellow rank dragunovs still get completely shutdown when you punish snakedge
how did they even get so far?
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>>182956362
iwr2 is pretty stupid
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>>182956249
why would i respect somebody for using a keyboard?
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>>182956330
You can't bring keyboard because they don't work on PS4.
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>>182956362
By spamming d+2, wr2 and snake edge? Drag is one of the most autopilot characters
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>>182956458
Ok yeah, I guess that does make sense.
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>>182956330
Yes. Hitbox are the best way for a keyboard player to play in a tournament.
But from what Ive gathered, online if you say you play on keyboard people have no problem, but if you say hitbox people get butthurt. Not sure why seeing as they are the same.
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>>182956135
i never used one, but i believe that once you get used to it, you can do inputs faster than with a stick. i heard they're very useful for charge characters in street fighter.
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tfw watching a salty dsp video and he has better reactions than me

I could never block Kazuya's UF4,4,4 online
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>>182956546
>falling for the dsp meme
Bet you watch LTG compilation videos too.
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tfw got stomped by characters I know nothing about and demoted
Lili then Alisa then Xiao Yu then Hwaorang and then Lucky Chloe

took me so fucking long to get promoted too
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>>182956469
who are the least autopilot characters?
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At what rank do I start running into you Tekken gen guys? Green/Orange, right?
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>>182957062

Blue.
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>>182957062
9th kyu
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>>182957062
3rd dan
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>>182957062
Green for Tekgen
3rd Dan for Lucifer
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>>182956546
dsp's reactions are the only thing he has going for him, he's dumb as fuck but he's not completely terrible at fighting games
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>only one week left of holidays
>i will get even worse during uni
>goodbye mentor rank
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why is Only Practice so bad at Tekken 7?
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>>182957062
Quick match
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>>182955849
it's a high, otherwise the safe on block thing wouldn't be fair
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>>182957062
Green if Feng, might as well be beginner with bryan
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>>182952253
Anna
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Jesus christ Miguel is annoying to fight
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>>182957791
haHaa frame advantage on everything and a fairly fast low launcher
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>>182957723
Hey i'm you except it's Green with Feng and pretty much 1st Dan with Jin
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>>182956362
late greens are full of memes. just had a drag who only used irw2 into a grab.
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>>182957791
DRRRRREEEEE
Sigue asi y te acabaran matando
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>>182957383
He got 4th place one time at Evo in some Street Fighter game after all
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>>182957956
Parece que estas a punto de perder
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>>182952253
marduk
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Can I play Nina well if my IQ is below 140?
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>>182955489
prob something like this
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>>182958089
Por desgracia para ti, hoy tengo un mal dia.
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>>182958273
You can't play tekken at all unles you are IQ is at least 190.
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>>182958273
You can play her with 80 IQ as long as you have the mechanical skills
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>>182958459
Paul players are not even in the double digits
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Is there any actual reason to give a shit about tier lists and stuff instead of just working hard at and getting good at whoever I think is fun?
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>>182958559
those tier list are absolutely irrelevant.
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>>182958559
getting good is harder than posting "muh leo" in tekgen all day, so it's gonna take significantly more work than most people are willing to put in
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>>182958559
yes, you pick a low tier character and you get like +50 respect
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>>182958559

No.
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Any other mishima player (or others) having palm pain (base of the thumb) from doing EWGF all day on pad?
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>>182958852
hand pain is actually why I use a stick because I was destroying my thumbs trying to play on pad
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>fighting Asuka
>Get hit by her slow as low
>adjust
>eat her ass looking flip kick
>attack
>Get my leg broken atleast 5 times

I have never been memed so hard in my life. I can't even blame him.
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>>182958920
me too
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>>182958852
Not exactly but I do get a sore forearm sometimes.
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>x character isn't in the roster because they're dead

Has a more retarded sentence ever been uttered?

Where the fuck is Jinpachi and why have resources been wasted on including the bears
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Hey, autistic swedish weaboo is fun to play. Who knew?
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>>182958351
Eh, si insistes.
I like that he sounds like an actual spanish guy instead of a mexican or whatever.
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>>182959078
Heihachi might not even return Tbh. Japan really doesnt like replacing ded voice actors, so they just kill of the character.

This might have been heihachi's last game.
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>>182959078
Do Panda and Kuma even have different movesets ?
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>>182959078
Aside from having 2 of the same character fill a roster with the only difference being Rage Art, bears are legitimate. They should just only keep Panda for T8 though.
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>>182959215
afaik just the Rage Art
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>>182959157
>tfw you don't look like miguel
why live
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alisas parry makes for a great fast taunt.
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>>182958559
Many people have complained in /tekgen/ that they succeed much more easily with character A than with character B that they would prefer. So it's not like character choice is irrelevant to success. However a "tier list" you're going to find on the Internet isn't going to tell who you would have the maximum success with. Lucky Chloe might be low on some Korean's tier list who plays and studies the game 12 hours a day and plays mainly deathmatches offline against other players with exceptional skill and game knowledge but she might be an exceptionally good for a scrub to destroy other scrubs online. Then there's personal inclinations, match-ups and all kinds of stuff making it all way more complicated than characters being unambiguously "better" than some other characters.
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>>182951802
My theory is that it's because of Bison.
Capcom names their bad guy after an animal (albeit the international version) so SNK that's been religiously copying whatever Capcom did, named their bad guy after an animal too.
But they chose Geese... They could have gone with Tiger or I dunno, Rhino or something but they chose Geese. That's SNK to ya! Well, I guess that makes it more original even.
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wait, does Steve's peekabo stance dodge highs?
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>>182959078
Kind of interesting how rare it is to complain about the absence of Jinpachi given how popular he was in TTT2. I guess people just accept that he's dead but as T7 shows that doesn't actually prevent Namco from including a character in the game...
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>>182959527
I think he was mostly just popular in TTT2 for the insane damage not so much because people loved the character
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I want to play the highest IQ character in Tekken 7, who should I pick?
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>>182959637
Gigas
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>>182959520
No it doesn't
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>>182952253
kuma
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>>182959745
gay
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>>182959637
Nina, Kazuya, Yoshimitsu, and Feng are the highest IQ characters
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>>182959792
>feng is high IQ
nice meme
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>>182959792
This
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>>182959781
However his 2 in pekaboo has an in-built punch parry
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>>182959792
t. Feng main
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Nina mains who do you sub? Looking for someone similar to her but less difficult because I'm fucking trash

I'm interested in Law King and Jin not sure they fit the bill though
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I wish I could play tekken to relax in my spare time but it's not relaxing unless I've spent 100 hours in training mode so new characters don't surprise me and shit on me completely
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>>182926875
mashers need to gtfo.
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>>182959356
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>>182960351
They really crumble under pressure when you start punishing their d/b+1 spam and low spam.
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thank you tigre
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>>182960398
>>182959356
Miguel is what betas think an alpha looks like but in reality Miguel is a gay pirate who just autistically flails at things he gets mad at
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>>182960564
I don't care how alpha looks, I just want to look like Miguel.
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>>182960546
even autistic russian looked confused for a moment there
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>>182960564
The only gay pirate here is hwoarang
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>>182960113
I play Leo and Kazumi as alternatives to Nina but im also new as fuck so
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Is Jin fun? I don't find most of my wins satisfying for some reason.
I usually swap between keeping people out with f+4 and a few other long pokes then going in and fishing for EWHF and CH f+4 combos but somehow it all feels so stale
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Is it true that Virtua Fighter is deeper than Tekken or is that just a meme? Virtua Fighter doesn't seem like it has much neutral/footsies desu
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>>182960860
I cum my fucking pants when I win as Jin holy fucking shit the karate the punching all the fucking shit is glorious
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>>182959637
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>>182959518
i think it's probably just because of like top gun with goose and maverick, and some kind of weird misunderstand of goose not being a cool/real name and the plural thing
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>>182961103
even though paul is simple i always think the person playing him is probably a cool guy, unless they've got a helpful 'i'm an arsehole' pink + shower head costume
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>>182960757
neither of those interest me thanks though
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>>182961103
What about Jim? He's harder to play than Devil Jim for sure.
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>>182961272
no he's not lol
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>>182961272
Why is there a group of people that call Jin Jim? where did this start?
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>>182961313
lol haha
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>>182961321
I think Aris started it.
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>>182961321
I dunno man I go back and forth for no real reson.

>>182961313
Yes he is lul.
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>>182961321
this has been happening since the 90s but 017ers will say aris
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>>182961380
Jin and tonic is a way better nickname, fuck aris
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Who are the best characters, and why is it Kazuya and Heihachi?
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>>182961452
>this has been happening since the 90s

what

explain
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>>182961485
Eliza, because Gothic Lolita sleepy vampire with horns is best girl
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>>182957383
He isn't the greatest ever at games, but he is much better than he lets on. He pretends to be way worse than he is because it gets views, and views get dollars.

>>182958307
Are there any attacks that Jin's Parry doesn't work on?
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why does Nina have a wedding dress on
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who giss howherd
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>>182961564
you know jin it looks like jim its fucking braindead and kids said it back then

what do you think it took 20 years for someone to go oh you know dude if you just change the letter back one his name becomes jim and its very funny hehehehee
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>>182961654
She was undercover in a mafia wedding.
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>>182961641
he can't parry this fukken win quit my dude
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>>182960113
pls respond
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>>182961682
https://youtu.be/dVwcP-0GdX4
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Is PS4 matchmaking busted, or are there just fuckton of people who find matches and then deny them, just to waste other people's time?
It's kinda frustrating when I have 30-45 minutes of time and feel like playing a few matches and get maybe two in.
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>>182961897
>RAGING CHILD
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>>182961729

... as the bride?

That's pretty deep undercover. There's no way she didn't get fugged several times.
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>>182961906
Where do you live? It takes no more than 10 to 20 secs for me to find a game, North-Western Europe here. I am getting matched up with people like 5-10 Dans higher than me in player matches for some strange reason though, I think the low lvl people all quit playing already.
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>>182961906
there may be something wrong, i'm in australia which is like the worst possible place to live for online stuff and even i get plenty of matches
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>>182962058
>I think the low lvl people all quit playing already.
I guess that's that then.
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2 winquits in a row? dude i'm just trying to learn bryan wtf
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>>182961906

So what third world country do you hail from?
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>>182961906
That's why I quit playing ranked, and started playing player matches only.
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at what rank do people stop falling for frame traps?
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>>182961906
be honest. what character do you play? I play King and I get ducked/dodged all damn day.
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>>182962050
I don't think harada really thought this through
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When is PC getting the patch?
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>>182962253
Yellows/High Green maybe.
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>>182962050
Everything for a mission, anon.
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>>182962253
whats a frame trap
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>>182962253
red
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>>182962050
Don't underestimate how professional she is.
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>>182958032
In a fucking Hyper SF2 in 2005
Nobody played that shit
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>>182962501
moves with + frames on block. So when you follow up with, for example, Lars' b+4, it's a guaranteed counter hit if they try to attack.
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>>182962050
She is basically a kunoichi, of course she fucks people to complete her mission.
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>>182962615
oh cool thanks
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>>182962704
nina is only a j off ninja after all
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>>182962748
420 blaze it
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>>182962748
i dont wanna fuck nina but id jam it in her sister
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How the fuck do you fight Kazuya? Everything he does takes priority.
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>>182963670
Just throw him off a ledge.
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>>182963670
go into training mode and practice??
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>>182964345

I do, but still get shwacked by any ol' Kazuya online. I have nowhere near this amount of trouble with any other character, besides maybe King.
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On Feng I play on the level my rank says which is Brawler, hell I play a bit higher I just barely play ranked

On any other character though I don't even play 1st Dan level, I can't move, I can't do anything at all, I lost to a 4th Kyu King doing unblockable memes

So fucking frustrating
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>>182964887
green ranks now basically are what blue ranks were a month ago so that means you basically know some of your buttons and a combo and not how to play tekken
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That 2B reveal was hype as fuck. Can't wait to see how her moveset works.
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>>182965837

da fuck
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>Can KBD with 90% success in training mode

>Can KBD a little in casual matches

>Cannot KBD even once in bracket

FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHY AM I SO GARBAGE
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>>182965837
no that was a dream

we got geese
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>>182963670
S I D E S T E P
L E F T
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Trying out a Character, he is 3rd dan

Facing a Usurper Kazuya

This game is dead
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>>182966419
Stop playing player match then if you can't deal with this
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>>182966419
>plays unrranked
>derp dis is dead lul
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How do you feel about that literally who Character for the next DLC?
Will every new Char get street fighter mechanics?
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>>182966530
>>182966690
Why the fuck would I play ranked with a new character, I barely even play it with my main from sheer nerves
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>>182966769
i think youre a stupid fuck and should stop posting
cheers
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>>182966769
kys fucking garbage human
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>>182961103
I see an Eddy on High IQ and a Katarina who is not below Mental Retardation. Into the trash this goes.
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>>182966823
Why wouldnt you? If youre past 1st dan all your characters will be 1st dan
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>>182966823
So you got stomped so the game is dead? Go away
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>>182966769
>geese
>literally who
kys
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>>182966823
Who the hell cares, what are you losing by playing ranked on a 3rd dan character?
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>>182966865
>>182966905
Are you guys Hogwarts, or whatever that white boy gangsta name was, fans?
I am sorry if I somehow upset you?
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>>182966769
next character will be from guilty gear so expect more 2d mechanics.
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>>182967032
Going to 1st Dan
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>>182966769
I bet you wanted that Yakuza fag to be the guest character
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>>182960954
vf's mechanics lend to a heavy emphasis on the range 0/up close game. every mechanic basically exists and takes effect when you're at range 0. it's extremely interesting in that range and it's very active and encourages one to take initiative and make decisions quickly.
tekken is the exact opposite or its complement. it has a really cool and difficult footsie game, but at range 0, tekken is barebones in terms of mechanics. the movement system affects range 0 play, but it's not as complicated or interesting (imo) compared to vf's, but that's purely because of how the games are built in terms of mechanics and systems.
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vf is a game about making choices that beat your opponents choices
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>>182967129
No, I don't really care.
I was just hoping not some fucked up anime figure would get in the game.
No matter how cool it sounds, I don't want Son Goku or whoever in the game.
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>Fight an initiate huerang
>Fell for Steve's b1 every fucking time

lmao okay
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>>182947000
I think you should pick who you want, within reason. If you're the type of person who doesn't mind grinding literally for hours on single things, watching match videos, and literally studying the game, pick whoever you want. It literally doesn't matter, because you'll get there eventually if you don't mind grinding.

If you have to go to online and get wins to stay interested, which is totally valid, pick maybe a simpler version of what you want. Let's say you want to play a Mishima, and you really like Kazuya. Maybe you should start with Devil Jin, since he's the most versatile Mishima and you can get by without electrics. Or if you like Nina, play a simpler rushdown character like Paul or Leo.
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>>182967539
That's every fighting game
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>>182967785
oh boy
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>>182967565
Thanks for the advice. I'm willing to put the hours in to learn properly at this stage, time allowing of course. I don't need to win to stay entertained as long as I'm improving.

Since I first asked the question I've been playing around with a few of the characters recommended and am sticking with Leo for now, though some of the more complex characters look like a lot of fun too. At the moment though I think I want to focus on getting inputs in correctly and learning the basics, I'm still struggling with even simple stuff like sidestepping when I to every time. The combos for each character are a lot to take in as well.
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That madman, Harada gave Geese his KoF XIV Rekka sequences AND his Jaeken is a crush moves. God DAMN
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I just don't understand how to play

I get rushed down by green rank players pressing a million buttons and everything just feels like a guessing game

How am I supposed to know if Heihachi will do his 400 damage mid or low when he's just standing there
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>>182968128
tekken combos arent a big deal its just a couple buttons into screw and a couple more buttons for basically everyone with some variants for wall carry etc

its not really anymore complicated than that
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>>182964887
Exactly the same to me, I play feng to green level but trying out bryan and it's been insanely difficut, feng just feels like he has an answer to every situation.
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>>182968439
if you're not sure block standing and eat a low.
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>>182968439
Just play the game in slow motion dude.
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Ok, I just grabbed Tekken 7 and it's my first fitegame. I have no idea what I'm doing, so:
As a new player, what would you say is the absolute most important thing to get nailed down solid before anything else? Is there any one thing, or is it more of a set that I should work on in the beginning?
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>>182968439
sidewalk left and make a fool out of them
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>>182968439

A big thing that new players miss is that the opposing player is taking a big risk of their own when they go for something such as a sweep.

If you block it, you can launch them for just as much if not more damage than what they were going to get. The same thing goes for characters who spam high pressure. You can duck it and launch with a ws launcher/sweep or whatever your char's best option is.

The risk/reward goes both ways and it's extremely important to capitalize on that.
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>>182968605
the most important thing is to have fun
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>>182968481
Sure but keep in mind I'm bad at video games
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I just finished the story mode, is that it? Will they release any story DLC's?
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>>182968605
movement and spacing.
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>>182968708
*waves hand in front of your face* youre not bad at videogames
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Claudio is fun to play
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>>182962615
>Moves with + frames on block

That's green rank play. U gotta use +f on hit to get to orange
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>>182968817
I'm not bad at videogames
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>>182968605

Get a high, a medium and a low attack you like. Fast highs beat mids, mid beats crouch block, low beats stand block. Evolve your offensive game from there. Pick up some basic combos. Learn your moves that put you in a crouching animation (beat highs) and jumping animation (beat lows). Learn the properties of your attacks that come out from rising from a crouching position (a lot of enemy attacks will force you into it, as can your own inputs).

That's the absolute basics that you should get down and it'll get you to blue ranking.
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>>182968886
yeah!! now fuckin go make those blue and green scrubs with 200+ wins look silly
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>>182968605
Play someone you enjoy austhetic/moveset/personality-wise so you dont get annoyed with them when you lose. They should be fun to play even when getting your ass kicked.
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Who is your main/favorite character, and why are they objectively the best?
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>>182969596
Alisa. Easy to destroy mashers/beginners, fun to play against good players.
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>>182969596
Feng because he probably has the most options out of any character and he just feels extremely solid

Am I lucky he's everything I wanted, I wanted to main him before I even knew how he played
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>>182969596
dragunov won evo ez
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>>182969596
Jack. He's extremely honest so my wins are 100% deserved.
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>>182969596
Claudio, right now. It's not even because of hopkick, it's because starbust is fucking stupid and he's got amazing normals.
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>>182969596
hwo because of his tekken 3 and tag 1 themes, the goggles/eyepatch, and move names.
ff+4 = peacekeeper
RFF 3~4 = whiplash
b+3 = plasma blade
1,1,3,3 = home surgery
1+2 = disrespect
u+3+4 = bloody guillotine
f,n,df:4 = just frame sky rocket
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>win one
>lose one
>win one
>lose one
getting tired of this shit, I need to ascend
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>>182969596
Raven. The ultimate patience character, and chocolate booty.
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>>182970129
claudio is a solid good and fun character and i like blowing out peoples knees with him and hop kicking them at the wall when they get up and block low lmao
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>>182969596
Nina cause she's a high IQ rushdown waifu
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>>182970247
>win 10 in a row
no promo chance
>lose 5 games
demotion chance
wew
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What rank is consider to be pro?
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>>182970436
Top 16 at a renowned tournament
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Lol, paul is so bad. everything he does is unsafe and easily punishable with a lot of moves that can be sidestepped. What kind of idiot thinks he's OP?
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>>182970436
late orange and above is where you might fight pros.
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>>182970565
t. someone who fell for the high low for the hundredth time and threw their stick
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>>182969714
seconded, she's a robot and a lady.

with rocket punches..and chainsaws, and she gives head
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>>182969596

King. He's too much fucking fun to play. Throws are fun.
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>tfw constant character crisis
I've had this game for a week now and have done nothing but alternating between 6 characters in practice mode. How do I stop this?
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>>182970565
t. Paul main
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>>182970660
this is actually good
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>Lose 3-0 against guy
>Get annoyed
>Accept rematch but play even worse because I expected to lose anyway
>Get mad
>Turn off game
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>>182970660
play more on-line, sooner or later you'll get competely destroyed with each of your characters, and with one of them it won't feel as bad and you will fall in love
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>>182969596
Steve. I'm struggling, but it's super fun and rewarding to pull off some of his harder stuff after weeks of training mode gring. Best experience i've had in any fighting game.
And it feels like i'm actually thinking and learning the game now after cruising all the way to warrior with Hwoarang just by power crushing and flowcharting people to death
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Why is Abandoned Temple so good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUVsd-pIbGQ
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>>182969596
I've been playing Xiaoyu since release but I think I'm going to switch to Raven. They're both so tricky and unfair, I love it
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>>182969596
Nina cause shes hot and also a grappler, also hot
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>>182970817
whats the point of getting mad its not like you got low parried last pixel last round last game in evo top 8
theres always the next game but if you dont want to play then you shouldnt play obviously
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>>182969596
Lars
He has an answer to everything. One of the few characters that doesn't need to rely on defense because you can crush everything if you guess right.
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>>182971297
My ego can't take losing too much and no matter how hard I try to work on it it just doesnt go away

I'm afraid to go to locals because ill seriously punch someone
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>>182971169
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>>182927102
And her gf
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Who is the easiest Rushdown character? (No Katarina allowed.)

Who is the hardest Rushdown character? (No Katarina allowed.)
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>>182971525
Josie/Paul
Nina
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>>182971458
thats really stupid i suggest getting over that and going to locals and making friends and playing more offline generally
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>>182971485
Lmao garbage tier customization
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>>182971485
>tanned
>black spats and bikini
M U H
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>>182971458
>seriously punch someone
Are you a teenager? Get a grip.
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they will never properly handle ragequitting will they
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>>182971815
No, maybe i'm Noel Browns forgotten brother or something
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>>182971683
shit taste, her default hairstyle is trash
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>>182971882
post mugshot
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>>182971896
So is your uninspired all black waifu garb
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People should be timed out for rage quitting like in CSGO. Keep it up and you'll get a 2 week ban.
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>>182971896
you might like boys, have you tried homosexuality?
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>>182969596
Eliza because she's cute and fun.
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>>182972189
deny promotion at all cost !
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>>182971485
My nigga
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>>182972139
Holy kek, faggot, you should go back
>>>/pol/
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Why doesn't the system treat disconnecting as a loss? Is there some technical reason because I can't think of anything else.
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>>182972189
no it should just give the opponent the win and you the loss and after a while give you yellow/red names, the former being the most important one
I don't want shitters option selecting out of losses and lose out on my points
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>>182972460
it does in terms of rank anyway
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>>182966383
>just le sidestep left to beat mishimas it's so easy
>get clipped by fucking everything
I'm starting to think this is a meme started by mishima players so they can get free wins
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I don't think I can ever win and if I do it was luck and I run away with the win
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>>182971485
I don't like how all the custom hairstyles deem to be made of hard plastic.
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I must have fought around 200+ Kings at this point, and still the character pisses me the fuck off. Just everything he does is so fucking annoying.
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>>182972569
sidewalk dude sidewalk
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>>182972645

King main here

pls explain. King seems honest to me once you learn how to break RDC
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>>182972569
sidestep back
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>>182972569
you're supposed to sidestep left the hellsweeps on wakeup and the ff3s and the ewgfs

kazuyas tracking mids are kinda mediocre, df2 (the elbow) is -12. ws3 is safe but slow. dont just sidestep randomly.
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Does every character have a parry? If so, how do I do it?
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>>182972871
df
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>>182972871
only a low parry you can do by holding downforward
standing parries vary from character to character and are in the move list, usually back + grab
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>>182972871
Only low parries are universal. You do them by holding d/f
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>>182973046
>>182972984
>>182972962
Thanks.

Geese obviously is going to have all his parries though. Good thing I know how to do those.
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>>182972708
>>182972809
>>182972830
mishima filth
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>>182972796
You've got to be shitting me.
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>Time an Eliza out two rounds in a row to win
>No rematch

I-I'm sorry but I had the life lead and there were only 15 seconds on the clock. You're hard to approach. I figured you'd try to come in and do something but you just sort of dashed back and forth doing nothing. I didn't want to throw away the game. Please don't hate meeeeeeee.
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WOULD IT BE SO BAD IF I COULD JUST BE CONSISTENT

FUCK

I SHOULDNT WIN AGAINST JUGGERNAUTS ONE DAY AND LOSE TO 2ND DAN MASHING ASUKA'S THE OTHER
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>can block lows just by crouching not by d/b
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>>182973208

Time scamming is the most satisfying way to win a round.
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>>182973172

Why will no one ever answer this when I ask
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>>182973217

The mid-level player's curse

You don't know how to play against people who don't know how to play the game
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>>182973316
bc most charas in tekken are in fact honest besides xiaoyu and akuma
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>>182973217
Like I said, Tekken is 99% learning what other characters can do.

>>182973310
Buzzer Beaters are even better.
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>>182973306

I really don't recommend getting used to blocking low with holding down. You might get confused when you try to sidestep into the foreground or block low.
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>Got to Brawler
>Havent played ranked since scared I might lose my cool green title
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>>182973217
>>182973440

I really don't understand this. I crushed everyone until I got to yellow ranks, then I started struggling, like it should be

What are you people doing exactly? I wish I could watch you play to see what's going wrong
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>>182973217
>>182973440
stop giving shitters respect
stop trying to space shit out, stop trying to whiff punish, stop trying to do unsafe strings they can jab through

you're not gonna learn anything anyway, just mash your sweep and collect your win
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>>182973554
dont worry about it green rank is a symbol of nothing
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>>182973638
What >>182973638 said

I can't go full retard against retards, I could probably spam a million hopkicks without them punishing them but I don't because I expect my opponent to know better
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>>182961832
>>182960113
p-pls
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Is both punch buttons a universal throw break?
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>>182973841
Sorry what >>182973660 said
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>>182973974
nope
you can't tech regular 1 button throws with both
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>>182973841

I never RDC because I always expect my opponent to know how to break RDC

I always try to mixup while in RDS with Xiao with rage because I expect them to be looking for the low

I need to learn to just meme people out, especially in bracket
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>>182974041
Teach me about breaking throws then so I can stop being a scrub.
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>>182974112
regular throws are 1 or 2 break, special throws it depends on the throw but often they're 1+2 breaks
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>>182972408
Nothing I said is related to pol you retard
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>>182973440
Luckily I main Master Raven, so I'm well prepared to deal with rushers and mashers.
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>>182973316
King is online scrubs the character. Grabs that deal massive damage, launching low sweep you need to react to, bonkers mids that kill you for random ducking.
Add these three together and spice up with online latency and you shouldn't have any trouble seeing why every online shitter and their little brother loves this character.
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>>182974112
you can break regular throws with either button, command throws require a specific input to break (1, 2 or 1+2)
you can see which button you need to press depending on which arm the put forward before grabbing you (1+2 throws grab you with both hands), the only exception is king as he has some misleading animations
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>>182973172

Fucking answer me, faggot
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>>182974371
Don't forget the unblockables
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How important is reaction time in Tekken?

I got less than ideal results on Millia Blocker
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>>182974371
his sweep also isn't launch punishable for some reason
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>>182972645
I want Miharu to return in Tekken 7.
She even has her own emote on Steam.
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>>182974592
you absolutely need to react to grabs and slow sweeps, if you can do that you're good
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>>182974623
Gross taste
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>You can cancel Paul's Rage Art
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>>182974483
>>182974593
Yeah also good points.
Most King players honestly aren't worth their rank and get by abusing shit that is simply too hard to deal with online.
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>>182974592
How much is your less than ideal? If it's around 23 you're fine
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>>182974853
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>>182974853
I'm 24 years old. Why the hell does that matter
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>go against some Kazumi negro
>do ff2 and it hits
>about to do electric
>game freezes for a second and continues
>lose the match
these fucking faggots deserve death
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>>182974592
As Aris says, reactions are trainable. I can't block Lili's sweep on reaction because I barely ever face that character but I can break throws by looking at which arm comes at me (Tag 2 style) because I practiced the shit out of it.
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>>182972796
Annoying as fuck jab string which moves him super forward so it's hard to avoid, can't be crushed with backsway/dash moves, and there's a mid on the third hit as well so you'd have to duck it in advance (if you can even duck, I think the 1,2 jails.). It also links into his 10hit which they love to do.

He's got several extremely annoying unblockables. The 180 tracking jackhammer leap, the somersault they always fucking do. And the random lariat they'll use on oki to mix it up.
He's also got several moves that leave him grounded afterwards so you can't punish him properly.
Stagger kicks, In theory you just block them but if it's on CH you're fucked and even more fucked if you tried to punish after blocking one and didn't use a fast enough move because now he gets the 5 second stagger animation and he can fucking launch you for free after.
His little twirl spin into 50/50 can fuck right off.
His charge has seemingly infinite range.
The running knee grab always gets me because I'm not a fucking korean with insane reaction time to break it.

He's also got a bunch of other annoying things he does like the full screen low swipe and the drop kick. And his little kicks that lift you up so he can juggle you are pretty much never going to whiff so if he gets you in the air at all even by accident they just need to do their failsafe kicks into screw for their powerbomb juggle.
There's a lot more but now I'm angry again
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>>182975052
Sounds like you're bad
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>>182974593
His LAUNCHING LOW SWEEP IS SAFE. -11 at most
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>>182975225
yeah no shit I'm bad, doesn't make the character any more fun to play against
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>Heihachi has all these problems with Kazuya and the devil gene
>Being hunted by Akuma because his wife said so
>Now Geese showed up to steal his shit

can the poor man catch a brake?
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Would have preferred Terry desu.
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Does Lars have any gimmicks I have to pay attention to when playing against him?
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>Akuma vs Kazumi
>Akuma: ''I never though I would see you again''
>Kazumi: ''Gouki-San...''

She definitely got MESSATSU'd
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>all these peole complaining about fightng King
>Literally fought against one King

Is this an American thing?
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>>182975573

Nah
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>>182975621
his stances crush highs
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>>182975573
Would have preferred a tekken character desu
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>>182975715
>tekken characters
>In tekken

lmao
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>>182975621
stances
hop kick
unreactable lows that deal a lot of damage
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>>182974371

Grabs deal massive damage because his lows are bad, they can all be ducked and 50/50 broken. The low sweep (I assume you mean Leg Breaker?) is like i30 and punishable, and can only be done from full crouch, it's bad.

>Bonkers mids

What? And unless you opponent is a robot he only gets like 65 damage off of a launch

>>182975052

His jabs are good and he has one of the nly usable 10-strings, that's true.
Holy fuck just jab him out of moonsault it doesn't even do that much damage

Grounded moves with unusual punishes, that's true, I'll give that.
Ali kicks are also bad you can just fucking block on hit
Jab him out of Jaguar step, good players don't use it for a reason
iSW is really good, no lies. King running at you is basically a mixup, but it's the only command grab he can do out of a run without shuffling first

Combos are combos, welcome to Tekken, he doesn't even get great damage from a launch.
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>>182975724
>>182976003
Cheers senpaitachi
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>>182975916

Josie was a lame replacement for Bruce. If they insisted on a Muay Thai replacement, it shoulda been Joe or King, but then there would be a name issue if it was the latter.

Hell, even Vanessa would be better
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>>182976058
>but it's the only command grab he can do out of a run without shuffling first

I lied, he can do executioner drop, which is good if you're at the wall
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>>182975621
Dunno what you specifically mean by gimmicks but lars has a stance that ends in a 50/50 but you can hit him out of hit with a mid or low.
Against Lars though, there's more important things to worry about since he can crush a lot of moves with his own, and all of those options lead into a full combo. u/f+3 crushes highs and some lows. u+4 crushes lows and some mids, d/b+1+2 crushes a lot of things that don't reach far, d/b+4 crushes highs. All can lead to a full combo if he counter hits you.
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>>182975003
>As Aris says, reactions are trainable.
I have been telling you that for quite awhile now.
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>>182976154
>Vanessa
Good taste
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>>182975241
it's -12 or 13 iirc. it is punishable. It was safe in every game before it though. Not no mo
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>tfw everyone in green is some disrespectful faggot shitter
how do I get out of this hell hole with Heihachi? it seems he only works if his opponent isn't randomly pressing buttons
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>>182975573
>not iori or kyo

they were pretty much made for crossover games.
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>>182976657
know frames and what scrubs mash and punish easily and effortlessly
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Paul was a mistake
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>>182961906

Same, both in warm-up and in player list like 70% of the time I try to start a match I press ok and it instantly goes "Connection lost"
It happens way too often to be player-initiated.
>>
New to the game. When playing online should I aim for 4 bar connection and above?
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>>182976871
Did you eat a death fist?
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>>182976871
t. brickwall
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>>182976950
>>182961906
It's the matchmaking. I am on PC, US East coast 25 miles of out of NYC. Ports forwarded, static IP, wired connection, NAT type 2.

I get the 'Connection lost' error all the goddamn time, way too often for it to be the other player. I still can find matches ok but it shouldn't be like this.
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>>182976058
>they can all be ducked
Except he has throws specifically for ducking opponents.
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>>182976657

Heihachi is amazing against people that like to press buttons actually friendo.

f4, df1 is a perfect frame trap (but it can be stepped to the left if they are on the 1p side.), and if you notice they are pressing buttons after f4, you can follow up with df1,2. Needless to say, this move is AMAZING near a wall. uf3,4 is +1 on hit, so use that as well. db1+2 has a built it evade, but it's unsafe if they block it. 1+2 is not bad as well, comes out at i12 and is only punished with jabs, I prefer to use this to get out of messy situations instead of his Power Crush. f3 is a decent move, too. Gets you a juggle if CH with it

And of course, Electric and ff2 are great.
>>
wait

Apperantly Geese during battle is voiced by Kong Kuwata, his original voice actor. While his cutscene voice is Mike McFarland of Master Roshi in the Dragon Ball series, George Kaminski from Case Closed (taking over for Dameon Clarke), Ritsu Sohma from Fruits Basket, Jean Havoc from Fullmetal Alchemist, Suji from Kodocha, Goemon Ishikawa from Lupin III and Buggy the Clown from One Piece fame
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>>182977494
>go against king
>random hop kick
>low kicks thats unreactable and actually fucking combos
>>
>>182975661
You think Akuma and Kazumi had an illegitimate child somewhere?
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>>182978146
Ryu
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>>182978146
>there is probablys ome kid out there who is throwing Hadoukens, but with tigers instead
>tigerkens
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>>182977351

If King is using crouch throws he is calling you out hardcore, there are much better and safer options to deal with crouch. Crouch throws are for styling on people and certain combo situations
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>go against oscar niggers
>oh no I'm getting preasured
>better do a cartwheel and get a free launcher and duck those highs
>I'm gonna do this combo and than do a launcher, it looks like it hits mid but really it hits low and will launch if you don't block it
>what's that you're going to do a mid? better do my low kick and interupt it and launch you
I hate these nigger players and characters
literally one of the scrubbiest faggots in the game
>>
>>182977383
f+4 is like 22 frames or something, but yeah df+1, d/f+2 and f+3 are great for catching idiots
Hei is a hard character to play though, you need great movement and consistent electrics (contrary to what people say) to do well with him
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>>182978338
Who are you playing?
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>>182978146
>>182978198


Honestly I could believe this
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>>182978429
Heihachi
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>>182977694
>>low kicks thats unreactable and actually fucking combos

What kick is this

I don't know this kick. Unless you mean db 3 which only launches on counterhit and is i20something and launch punishable
>>
All I want is long hair for customization. They can do it in TTT2, there's no reason not to do it in 7.
>>
>Tfw cant play Tekken 7 on PC because PS4 controller wont work.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Why does Asuka can-can juggle you on block? Do you need to block the first kick neutral then block the second low? Blocking both neutral just gets you juggled
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>>182978528
and all I want is a variety of diffrent suits for everyone.

I want Steve in Kazuya's purple suit
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>>182978392

Yeah, f4 is pretty slow on start up. That's why I don't really start my offense with it. I usually start throwing out jabs and df1 to see how they respond to it. If they press buttons, I don't use it unless they're getting up.
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Which character has the most + on block moves
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>>182978483
Oh, you again. Kys, don't make Heihachi players look like whiny maggots
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>>182978596
>neutral blocking

hold back to block anon
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>>182978663
Probably Bryan or Alisa
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>>182978593


Get DS4Windows
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How different is online compared to offline matches?
Do I need to relearn the entire game because of input lag?
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>>182978679
except Heihachi has literally no good lows
hellsweep will still get hit by her faster lows and db2 isn't that good in the long run, especailly when her hop kick comes out
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>>182978663

Hwoa
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>>182978731
bryan has 1 (ONE) + on block move besides jab
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>>182978593
I dunno anon, it works for me natively in Tekken, without any drivers
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>>182977351
so does Bryan Fury and several other characters. I rarely see them used though. Lars has an instant shining wizard as well. Iove it.
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>>182978708
I meant standing block as opposed to crouch block, bad choice of word
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>>182977494
>Geese is voiced by a clown
Pottery
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>>182978593
Is it not recognized by steam at all or doesn't work with Tekken specifically?
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>>182978663
technically hwo, but all the + on block moves are stuff into flamingo, where he cannot block and his fastest move outside of right flamingo f+4, which is a 8f high, is 13 frames.
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>>182978869
Then don't play him if you're just looking for excuses. Heihachi's lows are more than fine.
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>>182978910
two I think but yeah, few months from now people will see him as a balanced character
betting Knee already dropped him after yesterday and will blame his blowout on nerfs
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>>182978910
ff+3(hold)
rage drive
b+1
f+1+2
d+1+2~2

i know only 2 are practical
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>>182978776
Enjoy your input lag.
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>>182979307
you forgot wr3
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>>182979316
What are you talking about?
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>>182979210
>more than fine
>his only good low is literally d4 a poke move
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>>182979523
>hellsweep is a bad low
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>>182979523
Damn, JDCR must be really struggling playing such a shit character in every top 8.
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>>182979523
jdcr does fine with it. he's actually retardedly good at using generic d+4 with every single character. his mids are super scary anyway, and he has jabs + ewgf for highs.
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>>182979523
His lows have to be risky because his mids would be overpowered otherwise.
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which message is the one you get when they duck you?
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>>182980519
The request to fight could not be sent
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How do you know when you are officially good?
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Master Raven actually seems insanely good.
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>>182980739
>>182980739
>>182980739
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>>182980763
You never will be.
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>>182979473
It does take into account the input lag generated by translating DS4 inputs into XInput readable by your Windows machine.
It's only displaying the delay between the moment a button is pressed on the DS4 and the moment DS4 reads the input.

Steam's own driver also add input lag.

You're better off using a device that is already XInput compliant on PC.
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>>182980921
>it does NOT
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>>182933941
>tfw gay for framewhisperer

it helps that his guides are great
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>>182938125
>>182935782
Play Claudio.
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>>182955242
>spend hundreds of moneys for a hitbox
or
>spend 40-60 bucks for a mechanical keyboard

really makes you think
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GO AWAY YOU FUCKING WHORE
LIKE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ALREADY ALL MY SPECIAL MATCHES ARE ALWAYS THIS BITCH WHY CANT SHE JUST BTFO
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>>182984351
How do you guys survive the torture that is Treasure Matches?
Its so fuck annoying I long since gave up getting all the items.

The longest run I had was like 10 matches maybe, afterwards I had to close the game because I got bored out of my mind.
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>>182985078
It's good to test out new characters
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