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DEAD (Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses) EDITION

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>DCS: Do not buy mirage and newer modules from steam, because you can't use them in stand-alone.<

>TeamSpeak
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SimulationGamesGeneral

>BMS U3 Setup and stuff
https://mega.nz/#F!vxd2ia5Z!Dis_Nz7NlgzXqscADeUDew

>Repository of various aviation related material
https://mega.nz/#F!vxd2ia5Z!Dis_Nz7NlgzXqscADeUDew

>Planes pastebin
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Tanks pastebin
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX

>Boat/Submarine pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Link to this OP text
https://mega.nz/#F!vxd2ia5Z!Dis_Nz7NlgzXqscADeUDew

>Example of welcome games
>Flight Sims
Falcon BMS, DCS: World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
>Driving Games
Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, Euro Truck Sim, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, DiRT Rally, OMSI 2
>Ground Sims
SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War
>Submarine Sims
Silent Hunter, Ship Simulator, Cold Waters, Dangerous Waters
>Misc Sims
Command: X

>Example of non-welcome games
Ácé Cómbát, Wár Thúndér, Wórld óf _____, Ármá 1-3, Thé Síms, Sím Cíty, Góát Símúlátór, Cquaд

>Extra attention grabbing search terms
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/ /cwg/
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fear the hawg
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>>182451137
>Hit left wing
>Right engine starts smoking
Explain?
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why does the fucking thread keep 404ing
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>>182451476
Raids from /vp/
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So how do pilots know when they score missile kills in exercises like Red Flag? With gunkills you can just use the guncam for proof of having your pipper on the enemy for a second or so but how does it work with missiles?
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>>182453456
I think Gun cam with 2nd pull on missiles
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>>182451476
Some autistic kid demanding furry porn is my best guess.

I keep missing ops, have we done any medevac with escort type shit, yet?
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>>182451247
He hit it with 2 rather large HE shells, the shrapnel damaged the right engine and the left straight up caught on fire
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>>182453456
With this thing
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Read this next OP
Read this next OP
Edit
>DCS: Do not buy mirage and newer modules from steam, because you can't use them in stand-alone.<
to
>DCS: Do not buy mirage and newer modules from steam, because you can't use them in stand-alone.<
>Pastebin links are old, don't fear to ask questions in thread<
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Stop remaking this fucking thread, it's fucking dead.
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>>182454912
>Some autistic kid demanding furry porn is my best guess.

THAT REALLY MAKES ME THINK
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>>182456815
It's like they don't want them to release any modules on purpose and get money for air
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>>182456765
It only died last time because autistic weeb threads getting spammed
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>>182456765
fuck off
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Do surface ships have baffles? or is it only submarines
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1.5.7 pushed to stable.
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>>182458656
Nice
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Changelog:

"""Features"""
>DCS WWII Asset Pack integrated.

DCS World
>Su-25T. Chinese flight manual updated.
>The dispersion of aircraft gun cases increased by 3 times.
>GUI. Main window. In the Module manager icon added not-installed modules indicator.
>Su-25T. Fixed broken intro in Su-25T - Presents.miz
>'Default' zoom command {RCtrl+NumEnter} on external view restored.
>Ingame option window will save latest used tab.
>HAI. Default formation fixed for helicopters.
>HAI. Group of helicopters always spawns in wedge formation regardless of ME option fixed.
>Add trimmer mode for joysticks without spring and FFB into Ka-50 special options.
>Fix ingame manual window is lesser than game window in minimum resolution.
>A number of other minor corrections and improvements.

DCS P-51D
>Russian flight manual updated.

DCS FC3
>Su-25. Chinese flight manual updated.
>Su-25. NPP Pointer inverted.

DCS Hawk by VEAO MEME
>Hypoxia ceiling fixed.
>Sidewinder tone fixed to go off when no more missiles or missile system switched off.

UH-1H by Belsimtek
>Corrected a strange behavior of long cargo rope after hooking.

C-101 by AvioDev
>Cockpit reflections corrected (Still WIP).
>Added CN localization of Startup training mission.
>Fixed magnetic compass index. It illuminates now when compass light is on.
>Fixed Compass Light Switch (it had no animation).
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>>182456765
It's not dead tho. It died because someone is spamming /vg/
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>>182459528
>Add trimmer mode for joysticks without spring and FFB into Ka-50 special options.
What's wrong about current method? I think holding trim and releasing it after you're stable then centering stick is fine
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Why don't they wash their planes?
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>>182460738
http://archive.is/rVDeF Pictures for nato players
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They did it, absolute madmans
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>>182460738
Musta went with the Isreali turn over time bullshit.

More planes in the air faster!
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>>182460602
Its a trim mode for when you remove the spring from your stick.

You could do it already with a lua edit.
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>>182462490
>remove the spring from your stick
i thought this was a meme
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You can select liveries in loadout menu now, and your number, neat
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>>182461294
>104th dead
>Server list is more alive
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>>182463985
hol up
you mean like in the F8 menu?
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>>182465508
Yes re-arming window, will drop screen in a sec
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>>182463985
Fuck. Yes.
That skin is so fucking six.

Can you check, does the Su-27 still have that tint on the front canopy piece. It's weird.
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>>182465707
You refference to this 3 threads ago?
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>>182463985
AW SHIT
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>>182465972
It's tint of better visibility comrade
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>>182465707
>>182465972
>>182466397
Current stable version
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2.5 IS CLOSE
I'M FEELING IT
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>>182463985
>>182465508
>>182465707
>>182466079
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>>182466554
The power grows
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Every group seems to have number one on them now, any idea what could it be?
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>>182466671
nice
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>>182466671
Okay so which one is the /дa бoйз/ approved skin?
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>>182467623
All of them as long as it it's MиГ, but I suggest Damgarten
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>>182467623
Dagestan, 100% it's so sick.
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>>182467465
DATALIIINK

no idea, maybe it's suppose to tell you how many planes are in the group but it doesnt work yet
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>>182467972
WHAT IF THEY FIXED IT
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>>182468442
What was the issue? I know only that su-33 and su-27 in same group will show incorrectly
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>>182468837
It doesn't work online, only with AI
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>Woke up this morning.
>It suddenly occurs to me, of course, Merlin was Cougar's backseat from the start of the film.

What the fuck is wrong with me. That wasnt worth 20 years of subconscious computation. I blame you simg.
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>>182469060
Merlin was Cougar's RIO, and was Mavericks RIO at the end of the movie right?
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>>182469427
Yeah, I could never fig out how they had someone spare but Cougar freaks out and quits in a foreshadowing way. RIO, is that the term. We would say "navigator" here but I know thats not universal.
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>lost both wings
>Still flies perfect
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>>182469760
Managed to land without any problem
Btw, since when do you get ILS beeping? I just got that beeping for a sec while landing, and I recognize it from BMS, first time I got it in DCS
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>>182469760
Nigga i landed one of those in blueflag
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>Be MиГ
>Be forgotten
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do I absolutely need a hotas to fly full fidelity planes?
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>>182471607
Hell fuck nah. Plenty of people on /simg/ fly with just a stick, some of our best actually. Some don't even have track ir.
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>90% of the campaigns in DCS are training/qualifications
>nothing to actually do once you perfect your skills

Fuck. Falcon 4 did it so right. The training is just so you can play the Dynamic Campaign. That was the content.
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>>182471774
This
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what's wrong with VEAO?
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>>182472413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PClPjje912c
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>>182472654
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>>182472413
https://youtu.be/YEXtx98Q2aw
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>>182472654
WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MADE LAUGH THIS HARD
>FLY HAWK
>FALL OUT OF SKY

FUCKING KEK
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>>182470349
I think it's when you fly over the runway NDB(?) beacon
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>>182473230
It's when you fly over the Outer/Inner marking
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>>182473230
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Middle_marker.ogg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marker_beacon#Middle_marker
It's this one
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Does high-frequency mean better detection, but shorter range?
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>>182454912
No, however I'm currently making a CSAR op with slavshit. Would that suffice or did you have specifically natoshit and medevac in mind?

ETA: Never

>>182456679
>Pastebin links are old, don't fear to ask questions in thread

I went over all the links in the planefag pastebin not a week ago to check for dead shit like chuck's tutorials.

Would you like for me to change or update anything in specific?
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>>182474262
Kind of, you get better resolution and as a result much more accurate targeting, but it's easier to optimize low observable performance against it, like the F-117, the F-22 and F-35.
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>>182473230
>>182473397
For reference, since I recently finished my IFR training.:

OM -> Located at the Final Approach Fix/Glideslope Intercept 4NM+ away from the runway threshold
MM -> Decision Altitude/Missed Approach Point for a normal CAT I ILS, 3500FT from the threshold of the runway.
IM -> Decision Altitude/Height for CAT II & III ILS approaches, really fucking close to the runway
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>>182477203
Nice, thanks
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man what the fuck is ED doing my nigga.
This update made the hud glass of the MiG-29 dirty for no reason?
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>>182478584
The SU-27 also has the same thing
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>>182477895
A plane so hardcore it can go fast enough to destroy itself is automatically the dankest plane of all time.
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>patch made it so that my SPO mod doesn't pass integretity check.

Wow that'd be ok if you know, ED actually made it possible to read the fucking SPO. If its not in a shadow its unreadable.

>>182478914
You are correct.
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>Spitfire and P-51 vs Bf 109 and Fw 190
>F-5 vs MiG-21
>Mirage and soon F-18 vs nothing cause lol no full fidelity modern slav jets allowed, only FC3 babbyshit
Putin please
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>>182479604
>being a pathetic slavboo shiter
>being a pathetic slavboo shiter getting cockblocked by Putin himself

As a slav I recommend you to go fucking kill yourself.
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>>182480182
Nigger I'm not even russian, I just want real planes to fight against not arcade mode Su-27s.
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>>182479604
The WW2 lineup isn't exactly historical or balanced to be totally fair
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>>182458604
Right underneath them IIRC
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Do we have a list of recommended/required mods somewhere?

I'm fond of the RAE mod and the realistic hud myself, but wonder if there's more good shit like that.
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>>182477895
you can stop spamming this shit in every thread. it's not particularly funny or informative
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>GTM10 doesn't pass integrity anymore

ROOOOOO
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>>182481308
>no fun allowed
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>>182479095
This
People will start cheating with export.lua if they continue this
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>>182481308
>I bet you think 15G in f-15c is realistic
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>>182453456
Computers. Seriously, computers.
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>>182456256
Simulated sidewinder.
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>>182481371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVBI8wAYUos
Try mustang
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So I finished the Basra DLC campaign today
Where should I start anew? Angola? Op. Nasr? Afghanistan? Some different Graviteam game?
Also redpill me on GTOS Shield of the Prophet DLC, is it any good?
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Just seen the oculus rift with touch for £400. Worth it?
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is SEAD a meme?
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>>182481371
He should fix it imo
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The F-14 is ugly.
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>>182483792
Yes, if you have pc enough for it. Imagine it like getting head tracking after no head tracking. People who get VR, can't go back to head-tracking
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>>182485386
burger airforce camouflage & Insignia are horrendously ugly****
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>>182485386
Swept wings, it's sexy.
Spread wings, it's ugly.
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>>182485769
Don't care about the camo and insignias, it's just the shape of it

From some angles it looks nice, but from behind it's awful. With that massive gap between the engines and how flat and wide it looks, and although I love delta wing jets I don't like the shape of the F-14 with the wings swept back

F-15, 16 and 18 are all way nicer to look at. At least it's not as ugly as the F-35.
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F-14 is 4st gen right?
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thinking about getting the A2A Skyhawk for FSX and learn to fly with it
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The F-18 better come with a nice sea-based campaign
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>>182484581
Read viper pilot by Lt. Col. Dan Hampton then you tell me.

>>182485386
>>182485769
>>182486250

I hold the exact opposite points of view.
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>>182486714
yes
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I was watching a documentary about the F-14 and I saw this. "Rota Spain"

Rota is a Spanish Navy base, but as far as I know neither the Spanish navy or the air force have ever operated F-14s, so what could this be?
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>>182486714
Yes. Interesting note:
The F-14 was the first US 4th gen fighter. The Soviets first 4th gen was technically the MiG-31.

I find it interesting to compare the similarities:
>fuck hueg
>2 seat
>big ass powerful as fuck radar
>primarily interceptor
>only two planes that employed long range AA missiles (AIM-54 and R-33/37)

Outside that they don't have to much in common but its still interesting
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>>182479095
>>patch made it so that my SPO mod doesn't pass integretity check.

So what no cockpit mods?
WHYYYY?
You can't do anything but change textures, there's no way to actually cheat with texture changes in the cockpit
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It belongs to the glorious leader Saddam now.
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>>182489025
Yup. So that clutch as fuck mod that simply made the Fulcrums SPO brighter is kill. Fucking amazing ED, thanks.

Why worry about integrity check when your multiplayer is absolute ass with no direction or focus? Like they don't even acknowledge multiplayer, but fuck your cockpit mod.
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>>182489431
Rate my victory "victory" lads (failed to take two important objectives across the border)
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>>182489589
You mean you could improve on brilliant ED design choices even though they are not even close to reality comrade?

Ha no longer
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>>182489910
The Su-27 SPO is just fine. They just literally updated everything about the MiG-29 cockpit but forgot about the SPO lights.
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>>182489589
Also it's still allowing me to use the ka-50 with my all the mods.

So i don't know.
Maybe you have the tree mod on?
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>>182490098
Oh ok, no.

No more ricardos blue cockpit, well there goes the ka-50, im not touching it with that disgusting 20 year old jaggy texture cockpit.
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>>182490273
Yeah, fuck this. That means my faster Skval slew speed mod is fucked as well.

1 step forward, 2 steps back.
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>>182490570
>Skval slew speed mod
What did it do?
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>>182491005
Made the Skval slew faster. The default moves so fucking slow.

Also, what the fuck is this ED? Literally just made the MiG's hud dirty? What the fuck are they doing. Touching shit that has no fucking need changing.

Why are 90% of their changes not in the change log? I fucking hate this company.
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>>182491117
Welcome to the Russian business
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>DCS world working fine
>Suddenly it wants to download 1.5 Gigs of data while I'm on a 3G card

>Steam won't launch it anymore until I download it.

WHAT THE FUCK, WHY
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>>182491117
All we can do is whine on forums, that's why f-15 babbies always win
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>hey lets update all the lighting in the flanker cockpit and also add tint to the front cockpit glass!
>lets also leave the afterburners the same as they were in Flanker 2.0!
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>>182491403
Go to steamapps/common/DCS World and launch the .exe(Not updater but the game one I believe on steam).Steam downloads everything into seperate folder and after download it only then merges.
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>>182491117
>literally nerfing Russian planes any chance they get

Also mustangs terrain mod works in 1.5.7 and no one elses

I am feeling only slightly enraged.
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>>182491492
Compare this to how fucking amazing the Fulcrum's burners look.

Why can't they just take these and put them in the Su?
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>>182470349
>>182473230
Quick question, why doesn't DCS just have VASI lights?
This would solve a lot of problems I have with landing.
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>>182491645
Doesn't work. Run.exe, right? It just opens the prompt stating that it's going to download 1.5G of data.
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>>182491716
Because it requires to put work into. We will see if they do it with 2.0 but who knows
What plane you have trouble with? Russian jets have ILS, A-10C has tacan and ILS
F-15C should have too, but I dont' fly it so I don't know
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>>182491886
My problem is that without VASI, I can't do visual approaches worth shit. I tend to do parabolic arcs toward the runway and come in too low.

In the Mig21, SAU approach works great. I don't know if any other plane has an equivalent to the approach autopilot because I haven't tried them.
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>>182491869
try DCS.exe not DCS_updater.exe
>tfw I just needed to download 300 mb because I had open beta installed
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Shadows were busted also. They look like they have their motion blur effect but even when they are not moving. Bravo ED. 2.5 will be great, i'm sure!

>>182491682
Do you have a link? I can't look at these default shits anymore. JGSME if possible.
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>>182492118
It doesn't work, immediately launches Steam or launches the updater.
Thanks for trying, though.
I have a backup of it, but I already had to do this once when I got FC3 installed. How many deactivations do I get in total?
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>>182492193
http://104thphoenix.com/mustang/
Everything works with JGSME
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>>182492284
>http://104thphoenix.com/mustang/
Oh god I didn't realize it was the 104ths. Did you test this pack only on the 104th? is that why it works?
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>>182492193
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3192259&postcount=523
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>>182492382
It's map mod, it will work everywhere, because mods replace game files.
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>>182492382
No it works everywhere.
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>>182492382
Whoops, sorry for mistaking you seems there is direct link for it, and it's up-to date. Sorry
>>182492420
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The main reason I used Barteks is because he fixed the shit city textures by just getting rid of them. DCS does that stupid shit where you have buildings, but then also texture of a city underneath it and it looked horrible. Removing it made cities look 200x better.

Does mustangs do that?
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>>182489720
Pretty mediocre desu
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Which version of DCS world should I get? 2.0, 1.5, or 1.5beta?
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>>182493387
1.5
2.0 only if you have NTTR or Normandy bought
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>>182494540
Thank you.
I'm the person who had the game randomly update on Steam. Could I download the files on a much faster connection and transfer them over? I've done it a bunch with mmo third party installers
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>>182494745
Try to run DCS updater, I'm not sure, but it should find existing files from anywhere
For example 1.5.7 released, I ran the game, and it automatically found Open beta directory and took existing files it could have and downloaded 300mb.
If it starts DOWNLOADING something like 10gb+ turn it off, move game files anywhere else and install 1.5 setup into directory you moved files and then try to run again. it should check for existing files for sure then
Try first method first tho.
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>>182495789
Got it, thank you
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>>182494745
Anyway, forgot to mention that if you don't want your game to update on stand-alone, you need to launch it not through shortcut it makes, but DCS.exe(You can make your own shortcut), because created shortcut runs DCS_updater.exe. And I think dcs.exe doesn't check for updates.
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>>182496023
I tried it once more, what's happening is that DCS.exe instead calls the Steam, and Steam then calls DCS_updater.
But yeah, I won't have this problem for very long, but for now it's an issue. I should have just started out on stand-alone anyway, but the Steam Sale is what really pushed me to buy the Mig21, FC3, and F5e modules, anyway.
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>>182496240
>I tried it once more, what's happening is that DCS.exe instead calls the Steam, and Steam then calls DCS_updater.
Yeah one reason why I don't like dcs on steam.
Sorry, forgot to note that this time I meant dcs.exe thing is for stand-alone. Just wanted you to know that shortcut installer creates runs dcs_updater.exe and you would get into same thing again. Never tried to cancel an update and try to run DCS tho.
>Mig21, F5e modules
Good taste
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>>182496847
Here's a thought, do you think the DCS standalone could pull files from the steam install I have? It would only need to replace the exes
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>>182491492
Jesus christ that looks like something out of a nintendo 64 game
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>>182497259
I think it should. First, try running installer and see if it finds files. if it doesn't find files, move them somewhere else away from steamapps, and install installer into that directory and try running again. It should work I think. try first one first.
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>>182491492
LEWD
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I'm being slow here, was there a patch recently for DCS 1.5?
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>>182499576
Yup, 1.5.7
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>>182499358
Did you get this from some whiner's signature on the ED forums?
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>>182499792
Oh, did that happen today?
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>>182499831
It's from a really cool dude on the ED forums he's really cool you know.
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>>182499831
you bet
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What's a decent train similator I can torrent? My model trains are in the shed for storage and I can't get them out easily. Got the itch.
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>>182500000
I could tell from his awesome signature.
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>>182499976
yeah
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>>182500184
He's not assblasted about being BTFO by migs or anything like that i've met him he's really cool
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>>182500407
Oh, wow. Okay.
That explains everything, then.
Why did they make the MiG 29 hud dirty, though? Bad lighting choice?
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from reading these threads and reddit, not sure if i want to pick dcs, it costs terribly a lot, and it seems it doesn't even have proper missions, its pvp is very limited so i am not even sure if i would manage to get opponents in the planes of the same era and on top of that it has a few versions and i am not even sure if they are cross-playable or what

the only thing i care it's the flight model, realistic weapons and damage model, i don't give a shit about the correct procedure of pushing buttons in order to do something
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>>182500568
Nerfing russian planes in all ways
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>>182502358
You're not wrong to think that.
I think most people have sunk costs at this point.

But that said, if you want a game where you can jump in an A10 and then swap over to a BAE Hawk within a press of a button, there is no better game on the market right now.
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>>182500568
Memes
>Russian air force can't afford cleaning while american can
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>>182502837
This

Pic related about hawk
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>>182505246
>identity crisis
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>>182505357
What?
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>>182505502
>Defence Research in latin
>Su-25(T?)
How does this work?
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>>182507163
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>>182507324
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>>182507324
I don't care if this plane is shit. It looks hot as fuck
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>>182507592
>MiG-21
>shit

It struck fear into the hearts of yankees over Korea for years
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>>182507592
The MiG-31 is not shit though. It's the best interceptor in the world and the only plane that uses long range missiles. Its perfect for a country as big as Russia.

Its radar is absolutely fucking insanely strong, with 4 of them being able to scan 1000km across.
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>>182507795
We'll also never get it.
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>>182507717
>MiG-21
What did he mean by this
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>>182507578
>says fishbed
>its obviously a flanker

What are you trying to do here
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>Tupolevs and bombers get no love
Why?
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>>182502358
I have the same feeling. I went to BMS for sweet campaign, and I might pick up IL2 instead of getting a DCS plane now that I've thought aboutit.

I'll probably wait until DCS offer some campaign.
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>>182507965
He saw 'flogger' in the thumbnail and jumped to conclusions
I did the same when I wrote >>182507592 . I love the Foxhound functionally. I also love how the Flogger looks, but wouldn't seriously defend it as an aircraft. It was a transitional aircraft.
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>>182508245
Our sims don't really focus on them.

I would LOVE to see the Aardvark in DCS. An actual tactical bomber with Anti ship and saturation capabilities.

That said, it would suck in MP because it requires an escort and good luck finding someone who's going to help you with that.
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>>182507965
the korea bit didn't tip you off either?
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>>182508312
are you actually fucking retarded
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>>182513726
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>>182513870
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>>182514056
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>>182514215
S-Should I continue?
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For some reason I enjoy watching Magz play DCS.
He fucking ignores AWACS for some reason and plays like crap.
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>>182514392
Or should I post something other? You can ask for any soviet/russian plane
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>>182515154
Check hellreign82 whenever you can, you should like him
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Unfortunately, Il-2 is worse and BMS removed support for my Sidewinder FFB2!
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>>182515782
>BMS removed support for my Sidewinder FFB2
Why
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>>182513726

The nozzles are fixed in the -31?
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>>182515892

Something technical involving the drivers. After 4.32 the centering force was disabled. Maybe there's some program to put it back, I don't know. It's not like the FFB was used for anything anyway. In DCS the FBW planes have force trimming.
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>MiG-25 famously used a considerable amount of pure alcohol (500 litres) for cooling, hydraulic and de-icing systems, for its heat-resistant qualities.
THE FLYING BAR
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coming to a west german plain near you
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>>182516926
>pure alcohol (500 litres) for cooling
Wrong
I could be wrong but it was nowhere close to 500
It was 250 Water/Spirit mixture, and 50 pure spirit.
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>Be MiG-25
>48 israeli fighters come for you
>Just keep flying because they can't go up that much
>Laugh
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>>182518536
>be MiG-25
>Shoot down F-18
>outspeed all return fire
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>>182483606
Angola is pretty fun
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>Be a MiG
>Fly like a bird
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>>182520002

Man, fuck this game. Apparently there's no way to pull up the map while flying (as if!), so I memorized some landmarks like "follow the winding river until you reach the Y split and then take the right river..." and flew. Unfortunately with like only ten shitters on the server I flew for 30 minutes and didn't find a damn thing.

So the next time I just followed some guy in a dual-engined plane. He flew in a straight line for 20 minutes and then we shot at some parked trains. That's fucking it. Shooting parked trains. Fuck this game. The worst part is that the Hitler mobile doesn't have trims and the starting Yak doesn't have an engine. So I have to choose between keeping my sanity and having any hope of winning a fight. I think I'll just fly the Mustache Mercedes in fucking DCS instead. The cockpit is clickable, there is no input lag when changing trims or flaps, and most importantly, the engine simulation isn't designed for five-year-olds. "But see, we designed the engine management to simulate the mechanic having an emotional breakdown when he finds metal shavings in the oil filter!" -- Oleg on engine management in Il-2

>"But see, we designed the engine management to make you buy Il-2!" -- Oleg on engine management in RoF
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>>182521340

In the Su-27 I'm pretty sure I saw the wings reverse wright brothering at high speeds when aileron is applied
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>>182508115
thats clearly a foxhound dude
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>>182522351
Tell me more
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>high speed infantry delivery
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Where can I fly a F-106A?
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>>182522351
>Apparently there's no way to pull up the map while flying
Press O
>Unfortunately with like only ten shitters on the server I flew for 30 minutes and didn't find a damn thing
That's what you get for not playing on peak time

I know this is bait but im saving this defo
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>*destroys your BMP*
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>>182524640
Those hit nothing.

Source: Wargame Red Dragon
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>>182524640
>wasting a rocket on a paper car
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Is Cold Waters good? The controls made it look pretty arcade-y.
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>>182525473
Controls are fine, it's the overwhelming amount of information you get in 3d space.
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>>182502705
>>182502942
>>182491117

I don't see it as a nerf. It really doesn't make a difference, except maybe at night and if you're flying it at night without GCI/AWACS then it sucks ass anyway.
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>>182519836
>Be slavaboo

>Continually forget to mention that two MiG-25s were killed by F-15s

>Always mention the incident where one
F-15 was damaged as though it was a tremendous war winning victory.
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>>182526143
>Aim-7
Aren't they more or less done within visual range?
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>shitting on the eagle
is there anyone who actually does this
the eagle was a genuinely excellent fighter, stop that
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>>182526247
A lot of MiG-25s attempted hit and run attacks ala MiG-21 but were typically thwarted by a wall of Eagles and other fighters. Because of their speed they typically turned and ran and outrank any missiles fired at them, but as a result they never made any successful intercepts beyond the kill on Scott Speicher. Slavaboos also treat these kinds of attacks as victories, even though they did nothing to stop the overwhelming air superiority that the coalition had.

The one time they tried to dogfight, they got smacked about hard. In fact the HUD camera from that engagement is on YouTube.
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>>182516926
I wonder why they never bothered to try and use fuel a coolant like this here meme machine? That way they wouldn't have had to dedicate reservoir space to something other than fuel.
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>>182527479
Soviet ideology is budget and good. Spirit is dirt cheap, system is easier to repair, and it works perfect. Mig also needed to be combat ready all time, and be ready to take-off fast because it's interceptor.
SR-71 is reconnaissance, and afaik it took very long time to get ready for a flight, and all other crap. But for it's role it's fine
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>Be soviet traitor
>Fly Mig-25 to japan
>Ask for asylum
>Japan and US study everything about the bird
>Give it back
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>>182528195
Accordong to Major Brian Shul's book, Sled Driver, It typically took 24 hours to prepare the Blackbird for a flight. I'm not sure about the interceptor variant, but I figure that was intended to be kept in some kind of ready to go state.
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>>182526923
>bring five zillion countries' airforces with you
>outnumber iraqies using shit-smeared export model MiGs
>brag about it
Why? If anything the coalition had a fucking shitshow in the gulf war air competition considering they lost well over a hundred aircraft against an airforce that floored it to Iran on the first night of the war. Imagine if the Iraqis kept their MiG-29's around.
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>>182529291
Yeah, imagine if. there were more MiGs for the Iraqis to crash or get blown out the sky.
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>>182529291

And what? Got stomped even harder?

By the way, the MiG is a piece of shit and even the Russians acknowledge that.

Have a (you) for getting me to respond.
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>Someone posts mig bait
>Natoboos out of the woodwork getting baited

lol
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>>182531847
You can have a (you) too
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>>182532238
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>>182530890
Have a (you) for being retarded
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>>182530890
>be the bully
very good marketing considering only nerds play this, most of which got bullied on the playground.

yes im projecting
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>>182534158
Prove me wrong. After the shitshiw in Eritrea, the Russians have more or less dropped MiGs in favor of Sukhois.
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>>182535216
Migs are dropped not because of eritrea its because they cost almost as much as sukhois but have way more limited capability.
The point with the mig29 was to be a cheap front line fighter that was more capable than the previous ones. While it is more capable its much more expensive so the soviet union could never field as many as needed. Also mikoyan had a lot of connections in the soviet military so they never needed to really try hard. On then other hand sukhoi wasnt even a member of the communist party and that stigma remained even after his passing.
If mig was incharge od the su27 today we would be seeing that god awful prototype version
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>>182537131
SUKHOI WORLD WIDE
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>>182524830
Exept the invis recce terminator of doom type that is.
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Why couldn't we have just gotten a Ka-50 with an rwr
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>wake up
>PATCH!
>i can't use dildo pink landscapes anymore

fuck this gay earth
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I want the Sea Vixen in DCS
>4 a2a missiles
>4 rocket pods, 18 rockets each
>one nuke
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>>182524640
delet
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Don't be ded
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>>182526923
Of course the Foxbat gets btfo'd by the Eagle. Nobody, NOBODY is claiming the Foxbat is better than the Eagle. F-15 was literally designed to kill the MiG-25.

It deserves credit for being considered dangerous even as a 3rd gen plane with a 4.5g limit and horrible missiles. The fact that it got even one kill against a 4th gen plane, and the fact that it managed to damage an F-15 and escape a merge is so ridiculous.

On the other hand the other 2 v 2 engagement ended as expected, so it doesn't get credit. It's an underdog thing.

>>182537131
You're 100% right, but I think the Soviets fielded like 500 of them shits. During Soviet times they did field enough for them to be used as intended. Not so much now.

Countries that got MiG-29's as their small number primary air superiority were just asking to get fucked up. That's why they all buy flankers.
>>
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>>182541490
Not to mention
>comfy navigator seat
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>>182541324
I wish it had one..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yFd8lx7vQI
instead of a yak-38 we get a million trainers.
>>
Squad v9.6 is out: New map, deployables can be blown up, FOBs no longer autosupply.
https://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=180

Project Reality also updated to remove the new bullet damage model.
>>
>get back from trip at work
>new Windows update
>new NVIDIA drivers
>new Navigraph cycle
>new DCS update
>new PMDG update
>>LOL can't use Operations Center
>>Cant use "live update"
>>must uninstall all PMDG aircraft, then download new installers and rerun
>>hope OC can fix my liveries so I don't have to spend all day fixing them

Another day in the world of Simulators
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>>182550026
of course, I forgot to mention updating DCS involves running JSGME to unmount all mods, then running the update, then running JSGME to reactivate all mods.
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>>182550197
Mods no longer work, like at all pretty much.

Liveries need to be installed through savedgames.
It's horrible
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>>182550026
>>182550197
>>182550397
DCS
IS
SAVED
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>>182550014
>Vehicle claiming can now be done with only 1 person around the vehicle, as long as there are enough people in the squad. This is especially relevant for remote claiming, as players no longer need to send back two people to grab that empty logistics truck that saves your team.
Damn, perfect
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yFd8lx7vQI
Why are yolkhere videos so comfy
>>
Why doesn't DCS have flyable bombers?
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>>182552156
Cause it's complicated as fuck?
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>>182552156
But bomb has a lot of arnaments
so $200 for module
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>>182552149
I don't know he's has god tier taste in music.

Also posted already.
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>>182489720
what is this sim?
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>>182489720
Not bad if it's your first time, but otherwise your fucking shit.
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>>182552906
SABOW
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>>182552648
Whoops, I missed it, thanks
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>>182552247
How are they any different from a fighter in terms of flying them? They're just bigger and less nimble
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Why no F-16?
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>>182555902
Because no F-20
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>>182555902
>>182556972

Fun not allowed

If someone can be bothered put an angry chiz or angry wags, or angry eagle dynamics logo pounding the sign in
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>>182555902
because F-18
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>>182559831
But why can't we have both

ED is making the F-18, what are all the other studios doing
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>>182560582
ur mum lol
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Is there a chance DCS could get a Chinese jet? Some of them look pretty cool

I'd like the Gripen too
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>>182560664
Does that mean VEAO is my new dad?
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>>182560715
pretty sure someone making one
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>>182560715
I forgot the name of the team, they are making some plane made by a paki-chink deal.
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>>182516926
Mig25: the perfect union of man and machine, both running on vodka.
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>>182561290
Pakistan can into aerospace engineering?
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The F-16 in DCS would be a mistake. Everyone would fly it and compare it to BMS and realise DCS has no fucking content so learning the Viper in DCS was useless.
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>>182561456
That will also happen with the Hornet when it comes out, as the thing is so multi-role that mission makers will have a hard time making missions that are "balanced".
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>>182541490
Oi, theres a queue.
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>>182561406
JF-17. It will probably sell really well as a budget option. The likes of Argentina have placed orders and I suspect China will be keen to push them into Africa. Its not a totally insane choice for a module.

Be warned though, JF-17 avionics are written in C++ apparently. So when it crashes to desktop that will just be an 'extra immersion' feature.
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>>182561456
Don't most people play DCS for the multiplayer anyway
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>>182562185
What do they usually write avionics in?
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>>182562185
Why is there no plane that runs on windows
>take off
>in the middle of a dogfight
>Windows pop up on your HUD
>"system must restart in order to apply the updates"
>plane suddenly shuts down
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>>182560715
Why make another mirage?
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>>182562543
Why make another F-15?
>>
dcs multiplayer has been the biggest disappointment
I flew Falcon BMS in Falcon Online, human awacs, other packages on the comms and a sense of purpose

god 104th is such a shit hole
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>>182528573
Did he mention what makes it so long?
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>>182562642
Why make another 4th gen plane when you can make ww2 and old gen planes not much people buy and fly?
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>>182562683
falcon online is dead
try blueflag with simple radio
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>>182562878
Why is falcon dead? I just started learning the plane, and I like it
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>>182562335
Ada which is kind of robust for applications like that. JF-17 isn't using it because of a cost/skills issue in the countries developing it.

You'd have to ask /g/ but my understanding is that C++ is generally considered a fairly 'dangerous' programming languages for things you need to always without exception work.
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>>182563096
4.33 broke mp stability for very long hosting sessions
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>>182563510
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182563510
B-but they-re g-going to f-f-ffix it r-right?
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>>182561679
This is why we're seeing some Slav updates isn't it, to give the F-18 something to shoot at on the Hormuz map.
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>>182563625
Pretty sure the average release gap is 2 years, so yes.

Eventually.
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>>182563695
no
That was planned a long time ago.

But ED.
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>>182563695
Point on sir :(
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>>182563249
>You'd have to ask /g/
I just did
>>>/g/61356710
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>>182563895
Couldn't they just do U4 to fix what they broke?
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>>182563695
Imagine a sneaky Mig25 release together with the f18.
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>>182563929
Absolute madman!
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>>182564034
We're coming up on our first year since U3. What do you think?
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>>182564209
But they released U1 U2 U3 few months apart from each other, they could do U4
Well from other side I don't blame them, I guess people who work on it have jobs and families+It's free
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>>182563929
I will hold my hand up to the arse kicking I'm not getting but this is what I'd heard from people in the industry anyway.
>>
Guys I found a new way to get banned on ED forums
If you post intakes of super-hornet you will get banned
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>>182565573
Image of super-hornet intakes*
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>>182565703
Why?
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>>182565573
Why, because the super hornet's intakes are sexy enough to be considered NSFW?
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>>182565837
>>182565885
yes, and
>classified stuff
>sekrit radar deflectors
>>
On the subject of programming languages used in a pane's software, does simulating that plane require simulating the software and thus having it, like, run within the game, if that makes sense?
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>>182566184
Well it depends from which side you look. I would explain if I wasn't bad at explaining
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>>182567742
I'm bad at understanding, but let's try
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>>182566184
Can you rephrase the question?
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>>182566184
not really. all you need is to mimic functionality of the plane. you can do that by writing your own code. in any case, im sure the original code itself is locked behind so many layers of red tape and defense contracts that a developer would never gain access to it.
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>tfw study f-16 so I can hop in MP and get some fun
>MP is dead
10/10
>>
>>
Can anyone explain me concept of how HUD works? The part that if you move your head it's moving too, and doesn't just stay and etc
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>>182569146
Google collimating sight
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https://youtu.be/1yFd8lx7vQI
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>>182530890
>migs a shit
>have to make a plane specifically to counter it
rly mk's u sink
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https://youtu.be/6R18uBA-QfY
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>>182560582
Rabam is doing Harrier ond others, HBS, F14 and others, Belsimtek, Mi-24 and others, Magnitude, no fucking clue since the split..as for the other devs, don't buy their shit to pay attention
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>>182566184
Yes, you can.
In Orbiter Space Simulator, there exists a version of the Apollo space missions, which acts includes an emulation of the navigation computer. In that case, the real code used on the real lunar missions is navigating the space ship in the simulator.

In other applications, the main problem is probably licensing for the code. Using custom code is why modules cost less than $100, and not $10K+ each.

In addition, there are probably redundancy processes and code features which would be too demanding for a PC to run alongside a digital 3D environment.

An interesting tidbit about this subject, PMDG actually purposely created unique coding standards for their modules, to protect against real aircraft operators installing flightsim software and data into real aircraft.
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Wow guys, dcs multiplayer is so alive!!! So many choice and activities, WOW!!
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>Woosh woosh woosh woosh
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>>182572196
Damn travelling deep in the waters in a tin can looks spooky
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>>182572196
Wait is that real?
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>>182571830
>not jumping into the 104th in your F-5 or MiG-21 and wrecking FC3 babbys through pure skill
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>>182573507
I wish I bought MiG-21 instead of FC3
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>>182572852
Yeah, it's a Permit-class undergoing trials off the Bahamas.
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>>182573754
It's really a nice plane anon.
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>>182573754
FC3 is good for beginners because it gives you a lot of planes (and some very iconic ones like the F-15 and the Su-27) for little cash and doesn't ask you to study a billion page manual in order to just get the plane ready for take off, so I can see why it's so popular. But it's a shame that it's turning DCS multiplayer into more of an arcade than a simulation

Let's hope the F-18 will replace a lot of F-15s
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>>182574141
Something that's always kind of frightened me about being on a boat in the open ocean or diving out there is how hard I'd panic if a submarine passed close enough for it to enter visual range
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>>182574624
Yeah, heard a lot of people who got it say so, will do whenever I can tho. Cold war server seems fun too
>>182574830
True. F-15 Babbies will always stay at F-15, considering it's only plane which can pull 15Gs
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>>182574937
this always happens to me when im playing silent hunter 3 and see a destroyer 500m away. fuck the sea.
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Guys I got an idea. But it would require more than few people.
We could hop on ACG Cold War server, and do a flight.
For example:
>few Su-25 with 8*BetAb500/2*r-60m
>One or few Su-25T for airport SEAD
>And some Mig-21Bis which would protect us along the way to enemy airfield where F-5 takes-off.
>Su-25 Task: Bomb the runway(If more people joined, taxi way too)
>Su-25T Task: SEAD
>Mig-21Bis Task: Escort the strikers
My english would be too broken to lead this thing off, but I think it would be nice OP.
But considering only 2 people would come like always to OPs, it couldn't be pulled off :(
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>>182576412
Well, i would be up for that when i finished my Mig-21 learning
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>>182576619
No point in learning a botched module with a clusterfuck instead of ASP optical sight.
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>>182577303
Well it's fun to fight against f-5
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>>182576412
Why can't we have the American equivalent of the Su-25 so we could do this with F-5s too
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>>182577492
>American equivalent of the Su-25
A-10?
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>>182577492
The A-10?
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>>182577492
Because that cold war server is Blue coalition vs Red coalition
If we wanted f-5 to participate too, we would have to go against AI and create a mission :(

>Blue Coalition:
A-10A*4
A-10C*4
AJS37*8
F-5E-3*24
F-86*8
Hawk*4
Gazelle*3
UH-1*4
>Red Coalition:
Ka-50*4
L-39ZA*4
Mi-8*4
Mig-15*10
Mig-21*24
Su-25*4
Su-25T*4
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>>182492092
Can you not use glide slope indexers? Fuck, if you've got a hud, just put the threshold on -3" and use your throttle to hold it there; you should reach a situation where the threshold and your FPI merge at -3" on the ladder, the only thing then is if you are holding the correct pitch (and if you are, congrats you found the correct approach speed for your weight).
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>>182577836
Forgot to mention that
It won't happen most likely anyway,
because it's hard to organize stuff in /simg/ and I suck a lot at leading, so I can't lead
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>>182578005
So I can't lead and noone will take that role, because it's exhausting
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>>182577654
>>182577725
Ah yes, sorry I'm retarded
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Why Silent Hunter 3 and not 4 or 5?
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>>182578525
Silent Hunter 4 with mods is great but you get uboat elitists who can't help but think Germany stronk all the damn time.
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do I buy F-5 or Mirage
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>Su-27 negative g
>dead
>f-15c negative g
>black out
>wake up
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Is it against the 104th rules to bomb runways?Just remembered that you can drop BetABs with su-27/su-33
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>>182574937
>>182576249
bang on the hull and say hi
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Anyone here tried Forza Horizon 3? Been eyeing it since release, but Microsoft Store and the high price scared me off. Now it got regional prices and I can finally afford it. Is it good? Not looking for simulation physics btw, just fun.
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>>182581612
>>>/ovg/
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>>182581193
Way to get raped to death by the combat dolphins protecting it.
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>>182581025
There's no point runway damage disappears when you reconnect, also they'll reset the server if you ruin the runway.
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do I buy F-5 or Mirage
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>>182582678
Sucks
I guess only way to ruin f-15 shitters day is killing awacs and them
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>>182583394
Neither, Mig-21bis
Retardness aside, depends which gen you like
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>>182583598
>slav planes
lol
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>>182581979
Anon?
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>>182583598
I like both planes

I like radars and modern missiles and fancy cockpits with HUDs, but I also like the charm of old-school planes without advanced systems, and I like close dogfights with guns
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>>182583828
>>>/o/
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>>182584168
Then /o/ will sperg out and tell him to fuck off to /v/
/v/ doesn't talk about vidya
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>>182585069
/ovg/ is on /o/ you retard
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>>182581612
Well made game, graphically looks epic, but It got boring quick for me, but at same time I'm burned out from gaming so it could be because of that
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>>>17516426
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>>>/o/17516426
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>>182586090
>he lurks /o/
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>>182586847
I don't, I just know the slightest bit of what I'm talking about.
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Is Americlap truck sim good? I see it's on sale and I recall there was a rescaling update a while back.
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Which modules has the best "well modeled and complex" to "easy enough to learn and have fun in" ratio?
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>>182591563
M2000C
Huey
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>>182563249
do they write in ada in russia too?

also iirc ada crashed some european space rocket once
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>>182590331
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FUCK THIS INTEGRITY CHECK BULLSHIT, NONE OF MY MODS WORK
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>>182594101
Good, but there's not many officials trucks sadly. Faggot american trucks manufacturers getting cold feets.
Could still mod the shit out off the game.
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>>182562642
cause this one does it all
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>>182599202
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Why do you keep dying
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>>182571830
hopefully 2.5 combined with the F-14 will bring up the playerbase
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Is there a dedicated F-86 vs MiG-15 server?
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>You see Ivan, if do doughnuts in destroyer, American will be confused and not attack, da?
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>>182574937

The point of being in a submarine is that you don't get seen. The first the target vessel knows is the sound of the torpedo blowing a big hole in it and a sudden rush of water and men the sounds of men panicking as they know it's going down.

An uncle of mine spend the war on a Flower class corvette in the North Atlantic. He didn't have a good war
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dcs really could use some improved fire and explosion effects
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>>182602494
It's not playerbase only. It's stuff to do. Same over same missions on MP
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>>182605635
Look at this too
>>182491492
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Guys, I thought it's a fucking meme that f-15 can pull 15G
Why didn't they fix it yet??
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>>182610471
The plane can pull like 20g or some meme shit like that IRL. The pilot, on the other hand...
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>>182610939
Well, it's not skynet, so it doesn't make fucking sense
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>>182610471

Stop bitching for the love of fuck. Even if you do that in sim, you bleed all your energy. so the next missile will kill you. It's not like the first ER some twat shoots at you is gonna hit anyway, being that a well timed chewing gum wrapper thrown from the cockpit would make effective chaff against it.
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>>182611808
The ER is so JUST tier
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>>182611958

The ER is really good to force people to start evading, then you close and kill them with something else.

9 times out of ten, as an Eagle pilot I get killed by an ET. I don't see it, normally some cheeky fucker in a Flanker happens to sneak behind me because he's clever. Not once have I ever evaded a missile with the 15G trick. what I have done is put myself in a position to get fucking waxed by the next shot.
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>>182612515
This
Shoot ER if he knows where you are and he's comming for you but still far
Close and shoot ET if he doesn't.
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>>182612515
People don't complain about the 15G thing because it gives them an advantage.

The complain because its ridiculously unrealistic for a supposedly "Professional Flight Model"
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>>182611808
>Stop bitching for the love of fuck.
There shouldn't be any reason why that should be a thing in the first place. You don't use it? Sweet. Can pilot in real-life withstand it? No. Can you do it dcs? Yes
Why should it stay?
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>>182611808
>>182612515
how the fuck do you pull 15G without blacking out
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>>182613283
>Uber duper special flight suit
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>>182613119
>>182613278

I mean, it's happened. the aircraft likely needed maintenance afterwards though. But it's happened and the aircraft didn't come apart like all of you clamor for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-adcRA3u8Q
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>>182613804
>literally anecdotal with no actual evidence
lol
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>>182614331
>literally anecdotal

At least there's a shred of evidence that the Eagle can withstand it. Unlike where ED just decided that a Flanker will rip it's wings off at 9G, with no actual evidence to back up that it would catastrophically fail there.

Sometimes I feel like it's a lot of Flanker Drivers upset that ED did something retarded to their jet, and decided to take it out on Eagle drivers.
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>>182614331
Video isn't bad evidence, but the thing is, you can hear how that pilot groans, and being able to do it infinitely without even blacking out is just nuts
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>>182483606
I got the GTOS mod for SABOW working somewhat. Hud is messed up and I'm not sure what is drivable besides halftracks.
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>>182615137
Adrenaline is one hell of a drug. It sounds like he nearly passed out after and was in serious pain.
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>>182562335
>>182563249
Ada is used less and less (maybe unfortunately). AFAIK newer things like F-35 are written in C++ and stuff like that. This is despite Ada being known for forcing you to make more reliable code (while being painfully verbose), especially compared to C++. C++ is a very difficulty language to master, it's fast, dirty, complicated, and let's you fuck with the machine. That's good for performance optimization for games and stuff but in inexperienced hands C++ will easily create a buggy unmaintainable clusterfuck of a codebase. (Should use Haskell lmao.) The main reason for choosing more mainstream tech like C++ is simply programmer availability. Commercially, Ada isn't used much compared to C++. The US military also seems to be obsessed with the "off-the-shelf" meme recently. May not be as reliable but hell of a lot cheaper to develop and maintain(more like replace). And no, C++ doesn't mean it runs fucking Windows.

Now I remember watching a talk by the guy that created C++. Apparently they brought him to the F-35 development committee thing and asked for his help to specify a "safe" subset of C++.
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DCS and maybe real life question

Why doesn't the Tiger II have an IFF interrogator?
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>>182624960
Well atleast it has IFF transporder
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>>182625038
That's nice, but I get the sneaking suspicion it was only put in so people wouldn't blast it out of the sky in Multiplayer.

The Mig 21 has an interrogator and a transponder. I just find it weird that the F5 doesn't have one.
It makes me wonder if it's not a huge danger to fly in multiplayer for that reason alone, having to get visual confirmation of every target (and only works on servers that don't let sides mix and match their aircraft)
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>>182625151
Oh trust me it is. I don't have neither planes(I fly ka-50 in ACG Cold War), and if you don't see a team kill in few hours, you can buy lottery ticket
I saw 2 f-5 teamkills in under a minute, and third one after 5 minuts
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>>182625293
How is that server? I want to fly the F5 because I love that plane, but the lack of a transponder is worrying.
Can I verify on the map with F10 or is it just trial and error?
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>>182625623
>transponder
*interrogator
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>>182625623
Just try it, you got nothing to lose. Don't know any alternatives where you don't get bodied by f-15
server slots
>>182577836
Few days ago I saw it have 20 players on peak
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>>182577303
I'm learning the Mig21 right now too, are you serious? What about it is 'botched'?
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>>182625781
>Don't know any alternatives where you don't get bodied by f-15
Can an F-5 realistically fight an F-15e in a multiplayer server? I was under the impression that the F-5 is really good if it can close in to dogfight range.

I know we have evidence that the Mig-21 can do it.
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>>182626818
Well that I can't answer because I don't have F-5. But if you use brains like you just said(getting close to dogfight range) then it's okay. But it's difficult. What if you're going to met su-27/su-33 instead? He sees you instantly if AWACS spots you
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Blueflag ops when
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What's a good way to learn how to fly? not just DCS but flight sims in general
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>>182629175
usually playing flight sims is a good idea.
Jokes aside, what are you actually asking for here? Help with combat maneuvers? You could watch some videos and then mess around in free flight in whatever game you have.
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personally i am reading "fighter combat - tactics and maneuvering", i wonder if it helps me in dcs, lol

at least it already definitely helped me in warthunder
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>>182625151
Nigga even shit like spitfires and Mustangs have IFF transponders. You can have one without having an interrogator. All your weapons are wvr anyway so it's not as if it makes your life any harder
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https://belsimtek.com/news/1785/

F-4E CONFIRMED.
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>>182634301
Consider it's written by a professional on the subject, I'd say it's a must-read.

Also don't fucking play WT, it installs spyware on your computer
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>>182634712
First for Phantom bros.
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>>182626710
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=183154
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>>182629630
nothing crazy, more like general flying practices and such a-la FSX
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>>182634712
Hang on, wrong variant again.
Reeeing and Victor Skelton mode enabled.
[too obscure a reference?]
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>>182634712
Mi24-P WHEN
I gotta go fast in a helicopter the size of a tank.
I need it.
Though I'd rather have the Lynx for that
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>>182635232
>>182634712
It's not the wild weasel. Sad!
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>>182636459
but the lynx is teeny tiny and in no way comparable to a tank
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>>182634953
Well thankfully they've fixed the weapon selector logic so we're only waiting on the ASP fix. The MiG is still fine to fly in the meantime
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>>182634712
Hell yeah I love me some flying tank
But will it carry Iglas?

Some Mi-24Ps only have two 'inner' pylons where as there are also some Mi-24Ps like pic related that do have the inner pylons.
I assume one is an upgraded variant or some such but I can't find anything on it.
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>>182637157
>fixed the weapon selector logic
After 2.5 years. How cool is that
>waiting on the ASP fix
ASP is somewhat more complex than the selector. Have fun waiting for another 2.5+ years
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>>182637776
Listen, just fuck off yeah?
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>>182638150
What if I don't?
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>>182636924
But it's fast and that's what matters
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>>182638326
>anime
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>>182637287
That helicopter is some sci-fi looking shit
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>>182638397
but hind is fast and tank
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>>182634712
f-16 when

seriously, they are going to release f-18 and ignore a way more iconic plane
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>>182634712
So we got the Fishbed and now the Phantom is on the way. Real Vietnam map fucking when.
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>>182640654
shit not to mention the huey
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>>182640654
>>182640731
$60 please
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>>182640771
not to mention 30 dollars for vietnam assets
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>>182640854
Then the 15 dollar cockpit hd texture pack
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>>182638326
tfw humans don't have animal ears...
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>>182640771
>>182640854
>>182640925

All worth it if they added my planefu
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>>182640958
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>>182640479
This has been asked over and over. and over and over BMS has been cited as the reason
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>>182641091
cuck
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>>182641146
do people really boom zoom from being upside down

especially if you do it like on the pic you decrease you time on target because you both have colliding courses
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>>182641236
bone marrow suppression?
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>>182641240
I'll break you off m8. Besides, terrible russian business practices are part of the appeal
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>>182640479
full fidelity russian 4th gen when
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>>182641529
considering that usa got a few mig-29 from some eropean countries and then they even sold them to private owners (i think you still can buy one) really nothing stops them
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>>182641615
wouldn't they still need permission from uncle putin to fully model all the systems and shit

Like, even if they could get all the data from the US, russia could still say "you better not"
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>>182637287
The most modern versions use the MI-28s wings and rear rotor.
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>>182641869
i doubt they can or will sue a game company if that models one of the planes that was already thoroughly investigated by the usa
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is there a way to make the hud display speed and altitude in kph and m?
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>>182641489
pretty eastern germany hot border officer :3
not sure of their gender though
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>>182642172
A woman, because faggots and trannies got sent to the gulag, like they should be.
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*pretty hot eastern germany border officer
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>>182613804
>>182614916
How much weight did that F-15 have?
I bet it wasnt full fuel with externals, and full missile load?
Because that's what you can do in DCS and over and over and over.
If that plane did anywhere close that without maintenance, also the plane was beyond maintenance it was scrapped because they entire airframe was bent it would have fallen apart.

But you likely wont listen to common sense so since anecdotal evidence means everything.
How about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R7BWrqmgac

I guess F-15s should have their noses detach randomly.
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>implying 15G is a lot
lol?
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The fact that Su-27/33 pilots are so hilariously bad that even with all the advantages, they still lose.
Answer is literally git gud.
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>>182643240
>nametags
lol
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>>182643409
Have a you for trying.
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>>182643240
stiff upper lip!
50g is nothing for a real british lad
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>>182643240
>Bore blunder
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>>182643775
and not even in sim mode where it has at least a tolerable fm
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>>182641615
>implying russians would allow this even if the plane is declassified
remember that the MIG23 got canned for these reasons
>>182641969
aahahahahahahahahahahaha you sweet summer child
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>>182643813
The flight models in War Thunder sim are the same as those in Realistic Battles, with all the broken planes doing impossible gravity-defying shit. The only difference is that you don't have an instructor flying the plane for you, but those flight models are far from realistic.
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>>182644205
it's the same but the stuff they can do in rb like prop hanging they do because of instructor, it's theoretically possible but is very hard to pull out irl

afaik their fm itself is on par with il-2, albeit probably not for every plane
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>>182644409
>very hard to pull out irl
prop hanging is pretty simple to do you need to push the nose over so the plane experiences 0G as you go up, what isn't simple is prop hanging AND aiming accurately
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>F-4E and Mi-24P confirmed by the best non-ED dev

Basedsimtek. Too bad it'll be years from now. Belsimkek.
>>
>like planes
>go to /simg/
>see them sperging all day about DCS
>check out DCS on youtube
>9999999 results of videos of late-cold war jets with BVR capability shooting down eachother with cannons and dogfighting
What the fuck is this shit
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>>182646186
BVR is boring.
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>>182643656
>F-80
>british
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>>182646186
Missiles dont work
It's realism ))))))))))
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>>182634712
That's nice. But there's nothing about the AH-1 in there so I'm gonna go eat a hollowpoint.
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>>182646243
>F-80
You fucking what?
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>>182646243
dunno what jet is it but it has britbong roundels and has swept wings unlike p-80/f-80
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>>182646952
It's a Supermarine Swift
>>
Why no British jets in DCS other than a poorly modeled trainer?
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>>182646402
Why would there be?
We've come to an agreement, NATOboos get fixed wing aircraft, Slavboos get rotor wing aircraft.
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>>182634712
I would have preferred the Mi-24V but okay.
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>>182642393
And yet you post something that's just as anecdotal and not as representative of the Eagle we have.

If the incident I posted happened in 1985, then that Eagle was still pretty new, and it hadn't really started to suffer from the effects of fatigue. The aircraft in your incident was 35 years old and had suffered more severely due to manufacturing defects.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pictures-manufacturing-defects-caused-cracks-that-downed-usaf-f-15-220799/

The Eagle we have is representative of something around the mid 90's with no manufacturing defects.
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>>182649431
Good thing you didn't address the first part of my post at all.

It's still anecdotal though, and besides that F-15 wasn't loaded up like the babbies in DCS do, on top of it the manual says maximum allowed G is 9, guessing after 9Gs structural damage starts appearing, and that should be represented in the game if already one plane has it, in DCS as i said before but you decided to not address those points because they defeat your point is that in DCS an F-15 can keep doing a maneuver that caused a real life F-15 to be scrapped, over and over, while loaded up.

Also DCS hasn't got a time frame we are getting aim-9xs and we already have aim-120C5s which is what a 2005 missile?
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F-15C uses 2x safety factor, holy shit. 18G turns when?
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>>182649723
Have you seen a typical load for an F-15, even one involved in an exercise? I'll give you a hint, it typically carries two droptanks.
>>
the issue is not whether the plane can survive a 15G turn, the issue is that the squishy human in the cockpit definitely shouldn't be able to do that all day with no consequences
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>>182650485
The drop tanks will rip off at 15G, probably even less.

For example the F-18 can't turn more than 7G when stores are loaded because it'll rip them off.
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>>182650578
You're not taking into account safety factor. One of the engineers who worked on the F-16 noted that although the aircraft was limited to CAT1 mode when carrying drop tanks did not mean that they'd rip off if you surpassed 4.5G. Instead they had a safety factor of about 1.5 and so could go to about 7G (inb4 hurr 7G loke I said) before any silliness occurred, and even then that was only with full drop tanks.
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>>182650578
suppose you have a choice to sharply turn and rip some shit or to be shot down, what would you choose?

if you rip some shit and return home they will be mad at you but if you are shot down and die they don't have any power over you anymore
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>>182651106
How does this have to do with anything that's being talked about?
>>182651093
Sure there's a safety factor, but with a load the maximum G before disintegration goes down.

Like i keep repeating ad infinitum, somehow its hard to grasp i don't know how.
In DCS there is no silliness that can occur even when it should nothing ever happens zilch, you can keep pulling 15G maneuvers all day long, and nothing will happen.
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>>182651106
We have a saying in the Air Force.

"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"
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>>182569146
nothing is actually 'moving', it's just a reflection
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>>182651495
All I'm saying that it is doable at least once.
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>>182652313
Yeah that's fine, but i still doubt it's doable at a full load or much of any load, and once done, next time the plane could fall apart at even 5G
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lol why you salty faggots trying to """"nerf"""" the f-15 under the guise of technical garbage?
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>182652864
(You)
>>
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3194074&postcount=98


50% off DCS e-store sale
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>>182653350
go away shill
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>>182653651
DCS a shit I'm just keeping the thread alive
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>>182653350
nice phish link
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Should I buy Sand?
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>>182652864
>F-15 Babbie doesn't want realism

Not surprised.
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>>182655157
Says what is in all likelihood a Flanker pilot.
>>
>>
>>182655321
No i fly whatever, depends on what i feel like it, I'm not disgusting like you.
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>>182634712
Y E S
>>
>Dangouers Waters Red Book is back online
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=5187

essential reading?
>>
>Alt tab to research how much ammunition Cheiftains can carry
>Forget about game for an hour
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>>182634712
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN, MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
>>
So sales up. What does a man get fishbed or viggen?
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>>182656792
MADE TO DIE FOR ISRAEL
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>>182656792
>>>>reddit
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>>182657235
What do you want to do in DCS?
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>>182637287
They don't upgrade Mi-24s like they do migs and sukhois. Their upgrade is to make mi-28 instead of mi-24
>>
BUY SAND
Y/N
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>>182658519
No
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>been wanting to play DCS
>never played a flight sim before, don't even have a joystick yet
>suddenly modules on sale
>extremely tempted to grab the F-5 at 30 eurobucks but I won't even be able to play it
>but it's 50% off
Should I do it
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>>182634953
>The ASP is currently being worked on, as well as several other open bug threads.
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>>182658482
Yes they do
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>>182658804
Buy the F-5 it's one of the best plane DCS has.
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>>182658804
FC3 for 20 bucks is super tempting too but I want a full fidelity plane
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Why can't DCS have more first gen jets

these planes don't have any advanced systems they should be relatively easy to make. certainly easier than 4th gen jets
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>>182660053
Probably because the community is cancer and only a very small amount of people care about those airframes

Everyone else just wants 104th muh 4th gen amraam throwers
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>>182660053
T-33... yay
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>>182660318
Man I just want a WW2 server with MEteors and P-80s fighting Me-262s, or a full on Korean War server with something more than muh MiG vs Sabre
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>>182643409
So are f-15 and mirages
Every plane has it's shitters
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>>182653350
>Hey guys, let's not do it in steam summer sale!
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>>182659038
Do they?
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>>182658519
Caucasus 2 will be released soon, sand will die even if it's $25
GET READY BOIS
>>182659806
If you want full-fidelity you're better off with mirage
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>>182661278
>40% vs 50%
So fucking dumb, no key compatibility and now we have two different DRMs going from this point forward.

What the fuck happened? Why so bitter?
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>>182654863
Yes
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>>182661705
but that defeats the purpose of a sale
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>>182661740
Steam was always forcing their Steam DRM but there was some reason they couldn't do it I believe.
older modules than mirage are compatible but it still sucks that they're making newer ones on other drm.
>>182661978
Wait, what the hell, Mirage isn't on sale? ????
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>>182657754
I want to fly cold war fighters. I will get both eventually. I just don't know if slavshit or obscure eurocanard is the place to start getting into the study mindset of flying.
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>>182634712
So all this bullshit of people saying VEAO tried to do the F-4 and they couldnt get the mcdonnell douglas contract was a lie, the NDA was because a more competent sub-developer was handed the reins

Wags said something to the effect of 'pretty much all the standard sought after planes will be made' so if it isnt 4.5/5th gen its probably going to see the light of day
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>>182664496
Either you get, check Cold war server

You may ask why I shill it so hard, but I noticed that aaaa lot of people don't know it's a thing. Long story short I'm shill ;)
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>>182649431
>>182649723
Speaking of high-g and missiles, even if the F-15 is a super-plane it doesn't have a super loadout.

In BMS if you pull even relatively little g (for hamfisted desk pilots anyway) the wings will stay on an F-16 but you're going to light up the cockpit with errors and be lucky if anything drops at all when you hit pickle.
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>>182664956
More people should play it. Even if the mission is air quake at least there's ground targets at bulls
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>>182664496
>start getting into the study mindset of flying
Why not the F-16 then. We have some time before the sale ends, see if you can learn the plane.
>>
Why is the M2000 not in sale, REEE
>>
>mirage not on sale
It's settled then I'm getting the F-5

I don't know when I will actually be able to fly it, but at least I'll have it and for half the price too
>>
F-5 ( already have the mig21 ), Viggen or SAND?
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>>182666794
>buying sand
uhh
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>>182655863
I fly the Viggen far far more often then I fly the Eagle. Other aircraft I fly more than the Eagle are the Mirage, the F-5E and the A-10C.
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Damn RWR in su-25 is so good
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Viggen is ugly, gimme the Gripen
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>was going to offer to buy anon sand
Why does ED hate its customers?
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Slav magic, you open canopy, glass stays intact
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>>182667528
Russian business model
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what is sand
>>
>>182667492
holy shit up your textures
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>>182667528
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=190628
You can do it if you mail ED apparently
It's a fucking pain, i don't get it
also, i want sand pls
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>>182660053
Hnng. First gen is just so aesthetic.
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>>182667901
Damn it doesn't affect fps as I thoughtThanks
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>>182668596
hnnnnng
>>
Ok so M2000 which I wanted as my 1st module isn't on sale.

I'm looking for a full sim module in which I'm going to put a lot of time into, read manuals and learn to master with time.

Is the MiG21Bis a good pick for this purpose or is there anything better than this ? I like A-A most of all.
Also, in Multiplayer, is it viable against other planes once you're decent with it ?
>>
>>182668596
No it doesn't.
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>>182668983
>Also, in Multiplayer, is it viable against other planes once you're decent with it ?
It's not and winning depends on pure luck. There is f-5 vs mig-21 server tho

I don't have mig, so I can't answer to first question
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>>182668983
>mig-21
>viable

you have 4 fucking dots for your radar warning and no way to know what the fuck it is
>>
>>182669149
Is easy tovarish, light go bright, you eject
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>>182669026
Go buy some taste, faggot.
>>
>>182668492
I'm the one that made that thread. The problem is that I would need anon's password.
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>>182668983
>in Multiplayer, is it viable against other planes once you're decent with it ?
Only if there are no gen 4 planes in the server
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>>182669026
Consider getting your low-T levels checked by a qualified physician.
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>>182669434
Actually I've hot an idea. If I can transfer over my current copy of sand, then I can just buy a new copy for myself and not have to risk buying myself a redundant copy.

Can the anon who wanted sand post his DCS (game account) username?
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>>182669901
TymonDouglas
>>
>>182669493
>>182669149
>>182669091
Wait so what is a good 4th gen sim plane that is in sale right now ?

I might just stay on BMS...
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>>182670036
Mirage 2000, and the F-18 is coming.
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>>182670000
Sorry anon, I can't seem to rebind it or even unbind it from my account. Gonna move 2.1 to my main PC and see if I can unbind it from within the game.
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>>182670036
Sadly it's only FC3 and mirage is not on sale. All 4th gen planes it is... And FC3 is arcade
>>
>>182670036
There isn't one really.
Honestly the F-5 and the MiG 21 are fantastic modules, the F-5 more so in my opinion
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>>182669639
If you post the ugly 2-seater Hunter you're kinda proving him right. Post only the superior original version.
>>
>>182670497
Damn. Thank you anyway. It's just that modules here in Brazil are crazy expensive given the current Dolar-Real ratio
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>>182670613
Not him, but sorry to hear anon, I know your pain
Sucks that they took away regional prices..
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>>182670741
Yeah, no point now buying from steam.
>>
>>182670741
Place your serial on the license check, the Unbind button should show up
>>
>>182670416
>>182670546
>>182670567
I'll wait before getting myself in DCS then.
>>
>>182671038
Your loss if you're not going to delve into the older airframes
>>
>>182670497
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3194450&postcount=6
Official reply, you can do it via ticket.
>>
>>182671038
see you in 10 years.
>>
Dangerous Waters question here. What exactly is DEMON?
>>
>>182671549
an evil spirit or devil, especially one thought to possess a person or act as a tormentor in hell.
"he was possessed by an evil demon"
synonyms: devil, fiend, evil spirit, fallen angel, cacodemon; More
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>>182671549
You listen to the sea and hear a nigger go "VRRRRBLBLBLBLBLLB"

this allows you to get target speed
>>
For someone who has never played a flight simulator, how hard can it be and how long can it take to learn something like the F-5, MiG-21 or Mirage?
>>
>>182671549
If you have Sub Command it explains a lot of that stuff to you in the tutorials.
>>
>>182671813
>F-5
Your mom can do it
>Mig-21
Get some vodka and STALIN SPIRIT and you can do it
>Mirage
Flies itself
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>>182672000
>Your mom can do it
She's a slow driver, she'd be too scared of pushing the throttle to maximum for takeoff
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>>182671813
Easy as fuck if you aren't retarded
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>>182671030
Tried it, it doesn't work.

>>182670000
I need the email address that your DCS account is bound to.
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>>182673032
[email protected]
Thank you, really.
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>>182673194
doxxed
russians after you now
>>
>>182673407
blyat :((((((((((
>>
>>182673194
reported to Sithspawn and Wags and called the FSB.
>>
IS there any air force in the world that operates both American and Russian jets?
>>
>>182673194
>module bought
>ticket raised
No problem anon, hope you get it soon.
>>
>>182673793
You're the best. Thanks.
>>
>>182673729
Most postcommie countries.
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>>182673729
poland
>>
>>182673904
Just had an email saying it's now bound to you. Get downloading dude.
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>>182673729
venezuela
>>
>>182675512
Allright, still downloading 2.0
>>
Do I install 1.5 or 2.0?
>>
>>182676997
Do you have Nevada or Normandy?
>yes
Get 2.1.

>no
Get 1.5.
>>
>>182671549
DeModulatedNoise.

Basicly if you have a proper broadband lock you can layout all the frequencies of the shaft and each screw blade. Your shaft turning frequency can give you the speed of you know how fast a screw must turn for the target to go x knots.
>>
>>182677201
Actually if you have sand/1944grass get both
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WARNING

EXTREME HIND AESTHETICS

WATCH THIS TO GET MORE HYPE FOR THE MI-24P THAN YOU ALREADY WERE

https://youtu.be/zygf16fBMmg
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>>182634712
What the fuck? An actual update from belsimtek that isn't an offhand comment in the slavrune forums?
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>>182636790
razbam's doing the wild weasel variant of the F-105.
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>>182680728
*thud*
>>
>tfw can finally pick my skin on the 104th instead of flying the kazak su27
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>>182682981
>You can pick the same skin as the enemy

MUHAHAHHAHA
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Why are axial flow jet engines so nice to look at
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>>182684959
Odd seeing a RAF Ar-234
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>>182684959
I'm curious how it would look after it's service end
>>
Are you guys crashing randomly sometimes? I noticed it's a thing in twitch too
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>>182685330
It's from bizarro world
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>>182685867
>Are you guys crashing randomly sometimes
No because I'm a good pilot.
>>
>>182686002
I mean in sense of software
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>>182686087
I know m8 I'm just having a laff.
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>>182684959
Tornado has baby engines.
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>>182686271
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>>182686271
I bet that pleb shit can't even go fast enough to turn itself into a ramjet
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>>182686589
Wait, is that Ivory coast flag ? They don't have an air force (except 1 alpha jet or something).
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>>182687162
It's an Indian MiG-25
>>
>student playing DCS on a craptop
>save up over months to put money aside for modules when they go on sale
>get a job over summer to save for better gear
>struggle to find the time to fly except during weekends
Holy fuck how do you guys do it?
>>
>>182687304
Is there a name for this tail flag ? So I can look them up somewhere, because that's confusing.
>>
http://imgur.com/a/L0d8P
who here /hype/
>>
>>182687929
Not me, plane is cool, but there will be nothing to do with it in dcs
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>10
we gotta keep it alive boys
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Reminder who is the top dog in air combat sims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMOOOulhME

Hint: It is not DCS
>>
How big is the selection of decent user-made missions and campaigns in dcs?
>>
>>182687929
what's that round thing in the water?

>>182677201
and what if you later get one of those?
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Daily reminder that DCS has:

-no proper ATC system
-no proper comms system
-no proper briefing
-no proper debriefing
-no proper dynamic campaign
-no proper missiles
-no proper netcode
-no dedicated servers
-no proper C2 and other support assets

But don't worry those DCS trainers are very good.
>>
>>182695157
F-16 skins are that way.
>>
>>182695157
>Improved multiplayer code
Soo improved that made majority of community leave the bms
Sweet
>>
>tfw bms shitposting will keep the thread alive
ummm...okay lets try

>>182696531
LMAO NICE RAILS MODEL.
>1853 GRAPHICS
LOL SHOULD I WHIP MY N64 OUT FOR THIS FUCKING """""SIM"""""????
>>
>>182696940
Not him, but why not play dcs for what it's best, exploring and aesthetic sim, and BMS for full gameplay-wise content?
>>
>>182697145
ssssh ssh ssh we have to keep the thread alive you gotta argue with him
>>
>>182696531
Is there multi-crew in bms for 2-seat f-16 variants?
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>>182697232
Ok gonna try
>>182696940
>DCS
>F-15
>20G pilot doesn't even blackout
>Su-27
>10G instant blackout
ATLEAST IT GOTS VERY GUD GRAPHICS, WHO NEEDS REALISM ANYWAY XDDD
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>>182696816
And it still beats DCS all the way with 100x more units, proper war theater and others.

But don't worry DCS 1.5.7 showed us a lot of progress with fucking over people that use simple things like cockpit and terrain mods with more game stability than ever. Get ready for paying 5$ for English cockpit DLC.

>>182696940
Look at the DCS "professional flight model" that keeps changing with each patch and where SU-27's loose wings at 9G's while F-15's can do 15 G's with ease. Not to mention the AMA A-10C pilot who said that the A-10C FM is strange.

Bow down to BMS.
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>>182697537
>And it still beats DCS all the way with 100x more units, proper war theater and others.
I know, I'm just sad that majority of people left, I want to hop somewhere in public server, because I don't like that groups turn game into a job, like having mandatory ops. Takes away all the fun
>>
>>182697523
look its working!

>>182697537
Look at the BMS on rails flight model that doesn't model stalling and spins at all, and stupidly op ai that sees everyone 24/7. Not to mention the AMA F16 pilot who said that the F16 FM is unrealistic.

Bow down to DCS.
>>
>>182697738
theres a public server called veterans on something. apparently it gets pretty filled up on weekends.
alternatively look into uoaf. no shilling, but its all the cool shit of a vfw without any rank bullshit, op attendance is fully optional, and theres pretty experienced people that can provide training.
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>>182697892
Not him, but how do you know if DCS FM is realistic? F-15 may be able to do it, but what about pilot? He would get blacked out. If one pilot got lucky doesn't mean everyone will get
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>>182697892
On rails model? Surely you jest DCS peasant. Are you doubting the data gotten from NASA itself? Where did ED, Belsimtek and other shiters get their flight model data from and do you think its better that the one from FUCKING NASA?

>Not to mention the AMA F16 pilot who said that the F16 FM is unrealistic.
Things that never happened.

Look who works for Benchmark Sims :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFl6t6WpFs4

While ED only gets a crippled ex-CIA janitor wheelchair warrior.
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does dcs have american bias?
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>>182698580
yes
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>>182698580
Quite the contrary, it has Russian bias all over it.

-Most US missiles are nerfed and have around 50-60% of their range and don't fly properly
-Russian EOS sees everything in all weather conditions, through clouds, fog and others
-The SU-25T LLTV pod was so bad the VVS decided to scrap it in less than half a year yet in DCS it has the same picture quality as a Litening II
-Most Russian jets besides the Su-27 have an arcade flight model that makes it very easy to turn fight and a very simple damage model where you need 2 missiles to bring them down
-The MiG-21 in DCS has a CCIP computer while the real thing never had one

There are a million others out there, but these are just a few that came to my mind. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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>>182699949
delete this post
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>>182700415
FUCK YOU WAGS, SIMPLY FUCK YOU, I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE KIOWA AND IT IS ALMOST 13 YEARS SINCE THAT POST YOU MADE
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>>182699949
why does everybody complain about f-15 doing 15g turns instead then

also isn't mig-21 more accurately made than su-27?
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>>182700721
Because if you do that many G's you will fuck up the airframe not to mention the pilot but in DCS you can keep doing it because:

-airframe degradation is not simulated
-pilots are supermen
-wing flex is not simulated (besides maybe 1 aircraft?)
-vortices are not simulated

>also isn't mig-21 more accurately made than su-27?
Just because it has a clickable cockpit doesn't mean it is perfect. More hardcore dedicated players out there (not /simg/ of course) checked the real manual of the 21 and found out that many thing aren't properly modeled. Same can be said about the A-10C but both are still super modules.
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This dirty hud on the MiG-29 and the fact that they broke the brighter SPO mod has made lose all motivation to fly the Fulcrum at all.

Damn shame because I was just getting back into DCS a bit.
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SU-33 PFM OPS
SU-33 PFM OPS
SU-33 PFM OPS
SU-33 PFM OPS
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So I guess the tint they added to the Su-27 canopy is actually accurate. If you look at images of it you can clearly see that the front part of the canopy is definitely tinted.
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>>182702245
Another image where you can see it
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>>182701726
So

When and who can host BMS ops?
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>>182702952

And where can I find that handy powerpoint spreadsheet to help bind my shit?
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Is there no Árma general in /vg/ or is it just dead atm?
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>>182700601
Hope dies last
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>>182702245
>>182702439
Believe me or not, but I think tint even helps me
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>>182703124
What joystick?
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>>182704475
DECLARE
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>>182704623
Anon102, Falcon 2-2, Contact is friendly
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BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT-33
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>>182698558
>While ED only gets a crippled ex-CIA janitor wheelchair warrior.

What?
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who needs wings when u got canards lol
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>>182707858
>>182708236
Much realism comrade, that PFM is incredible, I say its realistic and much better than the BMS on rails flight model.

>>182708032
Benchmark sims have a lot of ex and still active F-16 pilots supporting the BMS project while ED has Wagner, an ex-CIA (could have been a janitor for all we know) employee that is on a wheelchair due to an accident.
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>>182708594
>what is lifting body?
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>>182708680
>>182708236
What is this? Did the PFM get released already?
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>>182708594
>First is dynamic campaign system
>Second is 4th generation multirole fighter
>Go with second instead
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>>182709320
It's on open alpha I believe. but it's far away from PFM
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>>182709783
They went with the option that had the lowest votes but the biggest potential for money, can you guess what?
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>>182710825
Well it's expected from ED so. But I imagine people are gonna be pissed that multi-role fighter is boring because in multiplayer missions are same, because noone makes them, because editor takes a lot of time to make decent mission
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Did anyone have any luck with the KAB-500S?
I can't launch them
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>>182712974
I can try, one sec
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>>182708236
...the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it/

i especially like how the fire is floating in the air
>>
I bought sand

Should I kill myself?
>>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5HS1-N-AabvM1FFTTEwWmRmaWs/view
Aw shit, you can actually test the SU-33 PFM
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>>182715260
The fuck? Is this real?
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>>182715509
hoggit seems to confirm it, the DLL is there.
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>>182715509
I did it on open beta few days ago before patch in stable, it's real. It's missing a lot of shit tho.
>>182712974
I have no idea, It just doesn't seem to launch
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>>182712974
>>182716147
>The KAB-500S series are the only satellite-guided PGMs in Russian service; other available models use laser or electro-optical (TV) guidance.
Why it's even in DCS in the first place then
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>>182716570
Maybe you need to pre-program them on the editor and there's no interface for it yet.
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>>182716704
Guess so. When did that bomb appear?
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Cheiftains are cute
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>>182716868
1.5.7
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>>182718573
Why can't they just do a f-cking changelog of updates. Noone asks it arma level(very detailed af) but atleast bit more info than it is now,,
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>>182718726
>ED
>Caring about FUCKING customers
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>>182719030
Not him, but they do care about us, they just don't admit it. They're working on our loved Su-33 PFM for example. And are they getting money? NO
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>>182719030
for some reason i pictured u saying that as mcgregor
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>>182634712
Y E S
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I'm new into this stuff, but am I better with American Truck Simulator or ETS2?
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>>182720389
so many feathers, so many pillows to fill!
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>>182722264
ETS2 has more to it at the moment but ATS is slowly catching up and has all of the graphical benefits of being newer. They're both pretty much the exact same game underneath, though. I think there's a sale on so I guess you could get one now and the other later if you're strapped for cash.
>>
DCS Sabre or Mig?
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>>182723090
Is MP worth to try in ets2? I heard it's full of trolls
If it's not, gonna get on ATS considering it's newer
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>>182724603
what american patriot would ever ask that kind of question?
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>>182724603
MiG
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>>182727139
You know what, you're GOD DAMNED right.
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i have no experience with dcs but 37 mm gun was for american bombers killing korean peasants while saber is more anti fighter... 2 23 mm guns with 6 browning m3... huh, brownings should be somehow stronger imo

dunno about dcs again but saber had a radar gunsight while mig had radar warning system only (was effective vs the sight irl preventing compleyely sudden ambushes)
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Comfy training
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*tilts rotor*
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>>182728012
the only such thing in service it's osprey isn't it
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>bastille day
>mirage not on sale

What were they thinking?
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>>182699949
>Most US missiles are nerfed and have around 50-60% of their range and don't fly properly
Lies. Compare r77 in bms and dcs. Russian missiles are nerfed to shit. In fact every missile in dcs is shit. And if they have no data, instead of "balancing" them they nerf it even more.
>Russian EOS sees everything in all weather conditions, through clouds, fog and others
NATO EOS would work the same... if they had one LMAO
>SU-25T
SSM garbage from lomac that they have abandoned because muh sekrits and we are never getting proper SM model
>Most Russian jets besides
Yeah, because NATO has only one fucking plane and it is OP as fuck, has indestructible wings and doesn't even drop it's full fuel tanks during 15g loads. Russian bias my ass.
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>>182727806
WOFF?
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>>182730189
Yep
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>>182730278
I've never gotten around to trying it. How's it compare to RoF?
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>>182712974
do they update the manuals when they add stuff like this? whenever you see something in the changelog about manuals it's always just about updating the non-english ones.
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Guess the tank
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>>182730946
>Fuel barrels in back
Isn't that dangerous?
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>>182730946
T72++
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>>182731245
They are detached in combat
Otherwise pretty normal and valuable for extending range
>>182730946
T-72/T-64
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>>182730946
T-72B obr. 1985. Easy.
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>>182730696
Older obviously, a bit less sophisticated in flight model (it's based on ol' combat flight simulator 3 ), and graphics aren't too special anymore. However, it has a vastly superior dynamic campaign, in fact the best dynamic campaign system I've seen in any game (I haven't played BMS so I can't say how it measures up to its much vaunted campaign though) and there's a good selection of planes with no fuckin' plane by plane purchasing. I give it a hearty recommendation.
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>>182730946
IS-2
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>>182731726
блят, there isn't any hard mode to guess for /simg/ is there
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>>182731943
also: butts
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>Not using your AK multi-purpose
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>>182731943
>>182732274
Hmmm I might have to finally give it a go. I've got a decent stable of RoF planes but I still miss a spiritual sequel to Red Baron.

Is CFS3 easily buyable still or does it play nice with a pirated copy?
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>>182703558
It's dead and never coming back, back when it was a thing it was cancerous beyond belief.
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>>182732760
You can just buy WOFF and it works standalone. Dunno about pirating since I bought it, but you could look around, it doesn't seem to have much in the way of DRM.
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>>182733757
Oh deadset? I had it in my head it needed a copy of CFS3 to work - might have been a while back.
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>>182733943
>>182733943
>>182733943
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>>182695770
>and what if you later get one of those?
Then you download 2.1 for it. Hopefully by then though they'll have released 2.5 and merged everything under one version.
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