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Still most picked hero in the game and no signs of stopping edition

>Doomfist! (Now on PTR)
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/doomfist
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>Most recent developer update
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>Previous
>>182413820
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Here comes T.Racer!
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What is the absolute lowest level of gameplay you've seen in this game?
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>the absolute state of hogshitters

Based Kaplan
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Is the average owg player silver ?
Why do I see threads constantly claiming that Hog and Pharah are OP ?
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>>182445197
When has there been a "hog is OP" thread in the last month
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Got beat by an attack Torb+Sym combo in [spoilerl]low diamond[/spoiler]
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>>182444984
The only heroes with non ultimate one shit abilities are Hanzo, widow and previously hog. No other heroes can do this. Everyone else has to manage their clip. Make sure they get headshots all while avoiding being killed by the enemy team. Hog could stand there, hook and kill someone. Then right click and immediately kill someone else before vaping up his health back because all it would take to keep him a live was an ana nade or a defense matrix.
He was op, get fucked
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>>182445151
players being bad enough to play against hog
there's one thing in losing a 6v5
it's another losing a 7v5 where on guy on the other team is a walking free 50% ult charge
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>>182445289
GM games were literally hog v hogs because he was so op
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49sr away from Diamond. Will I make it or am I forced to lose?
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>>182445372
You'll make it anon. I believe in you
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>>182445287
>character does stuff
>it's op
you an do that on any character in the game
Junkrat was always OP even if he wasn't picked outside of silver and in pro games, but he can kill every characters in 2 hits from across the map with no damage faloff grenades that have a huge hitbox and you dont even have to aim
you can stand miles behind your tanks and never get hit, and if someone gets close to you you can just bounce back and burst them down
he is OP, get fucked
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>>182445372
6 game loss streak. Calling it now
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When will this game actually start getting updates
It's getting stale and really fucking fast.
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How do you work out how much EHP a hero has with damage reduction?

50% is easy, so someone under the effect of nano-boost or orisa with her fortify its essentially doubling your health pool right?

But how much EHP does bastion have with ironclad active? Ignoring his armour for the moment
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>>182444906
Because Lucio is the only hero in the game you cannot take blame or heat from your teammates when playing as long as you are with the team and ult during team fights. Nobody has ever and will never blame Lucio, which is why I just pick him and have a comfy (boring) game.
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>thread culture

I'm still laughing, i know you're lurking too.
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>>182445151

Teammates being unable to focus down a single character or get 1 elim in 5 minutes or losing 5v3 after I die.
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>>182445456
Anon, the reason junkrat isn't op is for 2 reasons. The balls are impossible to aim, and they are slow moving projectiles you can DODGE. While I do appreciate you admitting hog is a braindead hero like junkrat, lobbing easy to avoid and easily reflectable projectiles is different than a hitscan hook that can hook you THROUGH TERRAIN to one shot you.
Its nice seeing you fags cry though, the endless salt from hog mains dropping like a rock will never not be funny
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>play dps
>get nanoboosted just because im the only one there
>get instantly ganged on because Im a glowing 200 hp little shit
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>tfw was low plat last season
>now I have a 66% win rate on Lucio and am almost to Grandmasters
Why aren't you a dirty one trick, /owg/?
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Can i have my fucking doomfist skins yet

PLEASE
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Xbox GT: Girseph
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>tfw your go-to heroes roadie the hog and reinhardt are shit
>your boy Jamison isn't viable in comp
Kill me
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>>182445431
Maybe because you call her ult an EMT.
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Xbox GT: Girseph.
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>>182445661
>hook you THROUGH TERRAIN
not anymore
>one shot you
he can't even one shot tracer anymore
get over it, hog was always mediocre and now he's just unplayable
he's useful only every 8 sec, he's slow and can't protect his teammates, his heal is terrible because it practically stuns you and his ult is below average
he has great strength and great weaknesses that balances it out, but of course if you ignore everything that makes him weak it will look OP
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Xbox GT: Girseph

I've never seen so many people so unwilling to improve.
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>>182445661
>can't dodge the 8 sec cd hook from an immobile character that has literally one useful ability
just bait it and then murder his ass, it's extremely telegraphed
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>>182445671
>Play tracey
>Have 75 hp
>Get nanoed
>Have a panic attack
>Somehow manage to kill 4 of them by myself
>Finally die
>We lose because I was the only one who was standing on the point
Sucks but at least I got play of the match
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>>182445279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E_Qp6wxbz0
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>>182446046
Not it isnt at all telegraphed, its hitscan. This is exactly he was nerfed. Its fine now though because the days of flank hog are over and the game is actually enjoyable again
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>>182445908
>>182446039
>>182445820
stop.
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what should i name my sombra-only account?
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>>182446209
housekeeping
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>>182446161
Hook is literally one of the slowest projectile in the game.
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>>182446209
Consuela
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>>182445749

HERES HOW WE FIX BEST BOI AND MAKE HIM VIABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER

>Junkrat now takes 50% less damage from all explosive effects (Added to total mayhem passive)

>Rip-tire now has 150 health
>Using Rip-tire now causes Junkrat to burrow into the ground after releasing the tire, healing him to full and causing him to be untargetable for the duration
>Remote mine detonation moved to left shift

>M2 grants a new ability "Firework"
>Firework replicates the "Remote mine detonation" effect that it had on junkrat, by launching him straight up in the air and knocking back all nearby enemies (5 metre radius)
>Junkrat gains 50% increased speed while in the air from this ability

There. Fixed his mobility, gives him another knockback to help him keep away from people, and stops every other fucking dps hero (Soldier, Pharah, even genji with his deflect) shitting all over him with explosive projectiles when thats supposed to be his shtick
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>>182446293
Its not a projectile, its hitscan. If you want slowest projectile it's either pharah rockets or junk bombs
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>>182446348

How about you fuck off, he is already powerful considering his low skill floor.
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>>182446384
It doesn't matter whether you are retarded or a liar.
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>>182445372
accept the fact that you will get to 2997 and immediately get a thrower in the next match
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>>182446348
Nah, junkrats annoying and brainless. Theres nothing funnier than watching a junkrat have an autism attack and continue firing at a deflecting genji.
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What would you like to see for new crosshairs?
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>>182446073
That Junkrat looks so good. But i guess that's just what they do at that level. Been practicing him in quickplay and my concussion movement and grenade placement looks so ugly compared to this.
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>>182446161
>>182446384
It was confirmed multiple times by the devs that it is a projectile
"sphere that he throws out and searches for targets as it moves. If the hook finds a target, it will pull them back to you"
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>>182445151
Mercy mains
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Xbox GT: Girseph

So many diamondposters, lol.
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>>182446460
The hook is literally undodgeable unless you're tracer or the hog has an iq of 60 and can't aim. Which I realize is the majority of hog players. But still, it was annoying seeing him in every game even at GM. Im glad he was dumpstered
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>>182446209
BoopCriminal
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>>182445151
>Anubis point B, attack
>be Rein
>DPS get 3 picks
>I move in asap
>die on point 1v3
>see what my team is doing
>they're still dicking around behind the chokepoint
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>>182445749
If you can't play heroes that require aim, maybe an fps isn't for you
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>>182445424
>>182445478
>>182446464
update: 28sr away from diamond. Forced losing streak still possible tho
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>>182446559
Xbox GT: Girseph
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>>182446209
Learning2Throw
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>>182446737
Anon, you're not supposed to go in until you get a team kill at the choke, don't you know how this game works?
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>>182446430
>>182446531

>please dont pick junkrat he's too strong for me :(
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>>182446209
"I bought the game twice xd"

The lowercase d is very important
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Xbox GT: Girseph

Doomfist makes you uncomfortable to look at.
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>>182446789
just too far for one win to put you over

get ready to know pain
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>>182446882
I play Zarya so it's more like thanks for helping me win.
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>I'm in Masters, friend is in mid-high Diamond
>que together against clearly smurfing 4 stack (all level 50 or lower, and they admit to it) on Lijaing Tower
>get destroyed first two rounds
>"they aren't that good, we can do this guys"
>start playing like we've been playing this game together our whole lives
>targets get called and dived on perfectly
> 100-0 them three rounds in a row
>fuck off shitty smurfs

>>182446348
Good junkrat players are still really strong on some maps, if they buffed him any he would be OP.
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>>182446663
>majority of players cannot aim and use his main ability effectively
So if only skilled players were good with him then what's the issue?
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What's up with that fucking xbone profile that keeps getting posted here?
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>>182446348
>>Junkrat now takes 50% less damage from all explosive effects (Added to total mayhem passive)
Sure, makes him less Pharah bait
>>Rip-tire now has 150 health
Sure
>>Using Rip-tire now causes Junkrat to burrow into the ground after releasing the tire, healing him to full and causing him to be untargetable for the duration
God no
>>Remote mine detonation moved to left shift
>>M2 grants a new ability "Firework"
>>Firework replicates the "Remote mine detonation" effect that it had on junkrat, by launching him straight up in the air and knocking back all nearby enemies (5 metre radius)
>>Junkrat gains 50% increased speed while in the air from this ability
Nah.

I'd work on his bear trap; lower the cool down and/or let him have more than one out at a time.
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>>182447149
Guess someone got salty in a match and is trying to do the whole 4chan troll legion thing.
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>tfw all your friends are shitters and whever you try to play together the matchmaker goes full spaghetti and the game is always a steamroll either way
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>>182447149
some dude got pissed at his faggot friend so he wants to unleash le 4chins on him xd
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>>182447116
>rog is only good at the hand of skilled players
>yet he's less and less popular the higher in ranked you get
mmmmh..
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>>182447039

And you don't want Junkrat buffed because then your zarya games would be too easy right?
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>>182447197
Yeah but I looked it up on Overbuff because I got a little bit curious. an said guy didn't even played for 22day and has around 20h played
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>>182447116
The issue is overpowered in the hands of a skilled player is still overpowered. Thats why ana and widow also got well deserved nerfs
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>>182447236
Hog was a go to hero in masters and gm, he only drops off in popularity as you approach top 500
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>>182447323
I don't need extensive hours to be good at something. Sorry if you do.

Xbox GT: Girseph
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>>182447149
some scrub got stomped by one of the other 2 xbox players and is trying to falseflag them.
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>>182447107

>if they buffed him any he would be OP

Why do people believe this meme. There are heroes like Tracer, Winston, Lucio and Genji plyed in 80%+ to 95%+ of pro games. Deemed by the best players in the world as "So broken, you should have this hero in your team more than 95 times out of 100"

And yet you can't buff heroes that don't get picked once (Junkrat, Bastion) "Because then they'd be OP"

What kinda retarded logic is that? They should be OP maybe then they'd actually see play alongside the other OP heroes that dominate pickrates
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what's a good name for a mei and doomfist only account?
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>>182447449
Nope.

Xbox GT: Girseph
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>>182446209
1337H4x0r

NEET sombra when enough of this gay neon mexican shit I just want a cute brown girl in baggy clothes and glasses
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>>182444906
Threadly reminder you literally can not deny Doomfist is completely 100 percent innocent and morally in the right.
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>>182446882

He already does 120-80 damage without even having to be in line of sight and has that huge fuck-you concussion mine. He only buff Junkrat needs is maybe having the trap fly farther when thrown, or more projectile speed. He is fine. If anything he's underrated because Junkrat can actually do a ton of damage, he's just a niche pick.

Turbo-buffing a balanced character who already is so easy to use anybody can use him would just make the game retarded.
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>>182447626
OJ Simpson skin when?
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>>182447616
That would be nice. I wouldn't mind a casual set for all of the characters, come to think of it.

At least we get swimsuits soon.
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>>182447481
You think they're OP simply because they have mobility which is silly and shows your Bronze.
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Why does Doomfist get to Meteor Strike into buildings? Does he just fly through the roof?
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>>182447870
can't wait for you to get banned.
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>>182447481
Lmao the only hero on that list that pro players think is broken right now is Tracer. Tracer is a hero that rewards high skill play really effectively. So much so that when you get insanely good at her she is broken. Tell me the last time you saw a Tracer (that wasn't smurfing/hacking) that dominated a game down in plat? Junkrat, however, is a hero that isn't incredibly high skill ceiling, so if they buffed him he would be broken at every skill rating level. Do you want the game to be Junkrat v Junkrat? I don't.
>>182447870
Post your SR fuckboy i bet I'm higher than you.
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How do we unironically fix junkrat though?
If he just gets straight buffed he'll be the rng annoying spammy hero everyone hates playing against - but he NEEDS to be buffed.
Would it be good to make his gun more like the loch-n-load with lower ammo and explosion damage to reward good projectile aim? Perhaps a projectile that gains damage the further it travels?
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>>182447635

He also enjoys a tasty 0% pickrate in pro play and sub2% pickrate globally

He's not a niche pick, he's just literally incapable of competing with the good heroes based on numbers and mechanics alone. Its not rocket science.

>>182447756

Funny that, pros must be bronze too
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>>182446209
SPANISH4SHADOW
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>>182447024
update2: 2993sr. I lose now right?
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>>182447746
>swimsuits soon.

I don't belive Overwatch is going to jump the shark this badly any time soon. It would just be LoL of Legends all over again.

Also I don't belive the game is getting any kind of "revealing" skins anytime soon considering how badly Blizzard has been pandering towards SJW's even before the game was already out if you remember that whole Tracer victory pose debacle.
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>>182447202
>Be me
>Like to play dps
>Friend is a higher rank than me
>Also likes to play dps
>Whenever we play I just decide to pocket him as a healer
>We lose
>He calls me bad
>Stops playing with me
>Go back to solo que
>Play more dps
>Finally manage to outrank him
>Tfw he still won't play with me
I just want my friend back
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>>182447918

Who cares what happens at the lower ranks? They think Sym and Bastion and Junkrat are OP already

Mei and Sym are OP because you literally cant do anything to kill them
Bastion shits out too much damage to kill
Junkrat kills you from across the map over and over

You could buff the fuck out of all those heroes and nothing in bronze - gold would change.

Higher level play is where it actually matters, because there the actual balance of the heroes comes into play where shit heroes like mei and junkrat don't cut it when stacked up against tracers and genjis and whatnot
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>>182447918
You must be higher than me if you think I give a shit what your SR is, child.

Xbox GT: Girseph
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>>182448092
If you believe you're going to lose, you will lose
>>182446182
He is probably under 18, but this is the rule he's actually breaking >>>/global/rules/13
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>>182448160
Lad, genji isnt that good. He's on the same tier as mercy and pharah which is "eh ok" but not great
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>>182447481

Your ideas are honestly stupid.

Bastion only needs his bloom tightened and Junkrat only needs to be able to throw his trap further or to have 6 grenades or have a slightly faster projectile to get easier direct hits. He doesn't even need all of those. Just one. You, on the other hand, want to make Junkrat able to boop everybody around him 360 while simultaneously flying and gaining 50% air speed, like Pharah's rocket jump and concussive rocket in one move. You want him to be nigh invulnerable to explosives when he was already buffed incredibly hard simply by not being damaged by his own. You want him to become invulnerable and fully heal just by slapping Q which also lets him kill everybody around him, it would be like a concussive mine that oneshots everybody and also refills his health, fucking RETARDED. Your ideas are retarded.

I actually play Junkrat quite a bit and he can be very effective, but he needs the support of his team to shine and you have to know when to switch off him. A good Junkrat player is going to be softening up your entire team, he will get a pick a minute and you won't even see him, he has a trap out at all times and the moment you get in you get the concussive in your face. But I am not going to deny that because of his low skill floor, a lot of retards pick Junkrat and just mindlessly spam and die.

Your changes literally make the dumb spam more powerful, encouraging actually worse playstyles.
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>>182448160
>Higher level play is where it actually matters

Not in Overwatch, since Blizzard is balancing around gold/plat players and the game's competitive scene is dying, mostly because of their incompetence.
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>>182448098
>if you remember that whole Tracer victory pose debacle.
They changed it from 1 pinup post to another and SJW changed their tune immediately when a few female players said they liked it?
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>shit at competative games
>shit at dota
>shit at Tekken
>shit at OW
>trying desperately to do better, gained ~100SR yesterday
>look around in bronze and see people who can't shoot and have dead cow tier reactions
>howd_I_get_here.png
>doing well every game but not well enough to carry every game
>for some reason decide to try chess
>still play chess like I did when I was eight, can't even beat a 1200 Elo bot
>have literally no ability to think ahead or plan
>all my prediction and game skill is from pure intuition but that's not good enough anymore
>keep thinking if I just pour a thousand hours into this my intuition will improve
God help me how do I improve my ability to think ahead
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>>182448312
>using last months statistics
Why? Hes >50% which is incredible, especially seeing as dives are cutting him for soldier due to mobility
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>>182448098
>Also I don't belive the game is getting any kind of "revealing" skins anytime soon considering how badly Blizzard has been pandering towards SJW's even before the game was already out if you remember that whole Tracer victory pose debacle.
I unironically think the replacement pose is better though.
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>>182448574
Ah, I haven't seen this months yet. Thank you anon
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>>182448098
Tracey's sprinter skin is revealing enough for me.
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>>182448673
>I unironically think the replacement pose is better though.

I agree, that pose was really bad and Tracer's ass is nothing special.
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>>182448693
It only came out a few hours ago
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>>182448673
>I unironically think the replacement pose is better though.
It honestly is. Her face looks really fucking stupid looking in that pose.
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>>182448098
>I don't belive Overwatch is going to jump the shark this badly any time soon.
Shh, let me have this.
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>>182447987
They would have to entirely rework junkrat for him to get picked in pro play.
>>182448160
What is the end goal then? Do you want every hero to be perfectly balanced so that pro players can play whoever they want and it still be viable? That's Chaos Theory denying levels of retarded. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and I hope you never try to get into game design.
>>182448539
Watch pro players who play the hero you want to learn. Pay attention to everything they are doing.
>where do they position themselves and why
>what targets do they hunt after and why
Watch guides on YouTube for your heroes
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>>182448470
>>182448673

What I'm saying is, that I don't belive that Blizzard is going to take any kind of "risks" again so they can keep a clean record, so to say and not receive another backlash again, as stupid as it was.
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>a child screamint at his/her mic and calling everyone shit and blaming everyone else
this is just toxic and annoying. Even when my teammates make mistakes I dont blame them on them mid game
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>>182448312

>Month old data

Last 4 meta reports show genji as the 5th most picked hero overall every time, floating around 60% pickrate

As opposed to pharah and mercy who are 8th,9th,10th, 13th and 10th, 8th, 11th 14th respectively

The chart speaks for itself
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>>182445160
But Jeff said he wasn't happy with how weak Hog is. He just wanted to break him down before building on him again.
Mercy however is about to get dumpstered and I couldn't be happier
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>>182448938
Record that for us. On EU everyone is usually dead silent.
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>>182448863
>that I don't belive that Blizzard is going to take any kind of "risks" again so they can keep a clean record
They already have beach themed skins in their other shitty moba.

You're retarded and the prattling on about SJW's is dumb /v/ shit.
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>>182448820
>just let blizzard pander to me
No, waifufaggotry kills quite literally everything and they're already fucking up the game by giving fanservice to anyone who says "please"
Stop encouraging them you degenerate retard
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Why don't they just put a multiplier on Hog's hook so that he can oneshot only if he hooks you?
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>>182449026
No one ever cared for HotS.
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>>182449073
Why would they? Blizzard don't want the one shot hook combo anymore (or, they did, but changed their mind because bronzes cried hard enough)
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>>182448938
Until you get to high masters then just leave voice channel, especially when this shit is happening. I had a friend who left voice channel and hid chat every game immediately and climbed to high masters playing Ana only this season. Everything that you need to call out below there is in the voice commands anyway.
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>>182449073
So back to square one? What a fix!
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>>182448673
>>182448863
>I unironically think the replacement pose is better though.
everybody does
remember that it was removed because it didn't suit tracer's personality and the new one is sexier

unless the sexy beach skins are exclusive to female characters, nobody is gonna get bothered by it
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>>182448673
It's objectively better and also a pinup pose so it's hard to call it SJW pandering

They were probably planning to change it either way but the internet had to freak out as usual

>>182448863
I don't think swimsuits are very risky anon, especially if they make it all cartoony with water guns and stuff which they're probably gonna do if they take that route
They're not inherently erotic, people wear that shit in public


Also blizzard does much more waifu pandering than SJW pandering
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>>182449073
Why not just make his hook do more damage
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>>182449226

I prefer Hog's new gun, and I can still oneshot half the time with the new hook or just M2 them. But it's not consistent and seconds matter. The real problem with Hog wasn't the ability to oneshot with the hook anyway, it was the obscene midrange damage of his M2, which is gone now.
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why is blizzard so obsessed with tracer in their advertising stuff? i swear, she's fucking everywhere.
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>>182449250
Be honest, water guns would looks not only out of place but really stupid, I know Blizzard said something like:"What happens in game is not canon" but as I see it giving your characters water guns is just too much.
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>>182449424

They gave Tracer paint guns and now every other Tracer uses that Graffiti skin so it's basically become her new default skin.
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>>182448830

>Wanting a large pool of similar strength heroes with differing niches rather than a small pool of 4 core heroes + a small pool of about 2-5 flex heroes, alongside 15 odd shit heroes, is a complete pipe dream

>Attempting to pursue this "completely unrealistic goal" through incremental testing and changes is chaos theory denying

What the fuck

How about we just try buffing the shit heroes and nerfing the heroes that get picked all the time, with small buffs bit by bit, and see what happens? Rather than doing nothing to tracer ever and wondering why she always gets picked. Or doing nothing to junkrat and bastion and wondering why they never get picked
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>>182449401
Maybe because she is like OW's mascot you know, their poster girl
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>>182449387
just let him have his m1 damage and gut his m2 damage, but then m2 is useless and you might as well remove it
gutting m1 damage and letting m2 damage as it is might be interesting
so he doesn't have his one shot but he's still good outside of his hook combo, so that it isn't litteraly the only thing he can do
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>>182446209
UMA DELICIA
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>>182449401
She's on the cover.
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>qp with some silver n bronze buddies
>be Ana
>enemy tema has bastion but no rie
>ok gg ez
>sleep dart enemy bastion 7 times
>teammates cant kill bastion
>defeat

so this is what it feels like to play with people below me
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>>182449401
Because she's best girl.
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>>182449524
but anon, if we buff mei and bastion they might end up too OP !
fuck at least let bastion have range, why is his recon mode better at long range than his turret form
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>>182449401
She's marketable. Nothing wrong with that.
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Guys is Junkrat viable yet?
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>>182449401
because she was literally the first hero they made
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>>182449401
She's just the mascot, it's like pikachu for pokemon

>>182449424
So does firefighter mei and witch mercy and event lucios, pretty much every event but uprising and the last one were cartoony and stupid
I'm pretty sure blizzard doesn't really consider sillyness a flaw for event skins from what we've been served so far and either way it's just an example
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>>182449621
SOPA DE MACACO UMA DELICIA
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>>182449751

They broke turret form by attempting to turn it into his tank buster form. But all they accomplished was making it useless because the accuracy is garbage so he gets out dps'd by everyone

Who cares if he tears through a rein shield quickly he's dead to ranged dps behind the shield before he can even redeploy

But its cool he can heal while moving and got 5 extra shots on he recon gun. And lost 150 armour on his tank form.

Yay
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>>182449317
A question worthy of response
I think this would only make him stronger in lower SR games, since in higher SR games most hooks you'll get will be these:
>hooking a flanker
In which case they're dead 90% of the times you hit the hook regardless of the hooks damage
>hooking someone in the middle of the team
In which case any healer worth their salt will try to get as much healing in as they can before you get whisked off, so the hook damage is again negated
It also feels pretty bad to get killed with just a hook for some reason i've noticed, when you're on low hp and such, I don't know why, probably because hog isn't supposed to be a chaser
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>>182449505
At least it's shooting bullets, if Blizzard just adds fucking super soakers to the game and everyone just squirts a little bit of water at each other that would just be fucking dumb.
For a summer time brawl, okay but then the community outcry would be so huge that every hour another reddit thread is started demanding Blizzard to add this hot new meme asking everyone and their mother to sign the petition.
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>>182446209
EquationGroup
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>>182449250
Yeah the devs said that they were lukewarm on the original pose so the criticism was enough to make them change it.
>>182449524
You literally have no idea how balance works if you think there will ever be more than 10 heroes in the meta at best. Sure it's good to shake up that meta by making changes, but having 24 heroes all with massively different abilities being equal IS a pipe dream. Can you even tell me why Tracer is considered OP? I bet you have no idea.
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>>182449062
Nah. I'll continue to enjoy my casual waifu game. Feel free to leave if it bothers you, but I'm pretty sure Blizzard is on my side.
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>>182449424
>Be honest, water guns would looks not only out of place but really stupid, I know Blizzard said something like:"What happens in game is not canon" but as I see it giving your characters water guns is just too much.
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Guys the real reason we wont get swimsuit events has nothing to do with sexism, or feminism, or how "Silly or lore breaking" they might be. None of those matter or stop us from getting the skins

What stops us is the fact theres no summer event to get them. Summer games is the summer event. So all the skins are sporty.

Maybe someone will get a swimming skin this year coz roadhog got swimsuit spray last year
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>>182450043
>Can you even tell me why Tracer is considered OP?

>high mobility
>high damage
>get out of jail free card
>complete dogshit for an ult
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>>182448961
>Orisa second lowest
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>>182450124
>they're silly!
>one hero has a santa, pirate AND motorcyclist skin.
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>>182450060
>I know everything you said was true, and admit I am a degenerate that ruins everything I touch, but I will continue to do it
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>>182448961

>that pic
You guys think there will be a day where all the heroes will be picked exactly the same?
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>>182450173
the bottom 6 get picked 0% of the time
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>2993
>lose game
>win game
>2994
I will get there
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>>182450102
No one ever claimd that other skins were any better.
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Is this 400mb update seriously just for 2 bug fixes?
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>>182450162
she also has practically no health and shit range so she balances herself out
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>6 tanks in the game
>half of them are unplayable
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>>182450326
You know I'm right anon.
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>>182450336
i can't think of a single competitive game where that happens
certain kits and playstyles are always going to be stronger than others
the goal is for each character to see viability at different points in time to prevent it going stale
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>>182450521
You're always right when you post D.vass
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>>182450416
her burst is still insane, she can melt anyone in the game with one clip and she has no issues in getting to the back lanes and back to safety
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>>182450396
exactly idiot
the precedent is already set. going over the line is more akin to pole vaulting when it comes to skins
This isn't a progression into stupid garbage like TF2, we got this hit out of the way right at the start
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>>182450043

>You literally have no idea how balance works if you think there will ever be more than 10 heroes in the meta at best

What makes you think this? It sounds more to me like you are just incapable of comprehending concept of improvement, like you just look at whatever is in front of you and say "If its shit, this is just the way it has to be. We can't change it"

I mean, thats ok. Theres always people like that

>why Tracer is considered OP? I bet you have no idea.

Probably something to do with her great mobility tools, synergy with other popular diving heroes, great burst damage, fast charging ult. I don't think theres any one part of her in particular that stands out as OP. Just a very strong hero on the whole
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Thank you everyone who participated in lore discussion yesterday. /owg/ was briefly good
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>>182450586
>she can melt anyone in the game with one clip
Stop embarrassing yourself anon
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>>182450594
rather, to go over the line you'd HAVE to be pole vaulting over it
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>>182450521
Right about what? You didn't make a point, you just posted a lewd image.
Why do you even come to this thread? You're clearly ruled by your dick and don't actually enjoy the game - just masturbate in peace and let people who play the game discuss it
Thanks and never respond to me again without an argument!
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>>182450586
That level of insane burst can only be achieved by pros so she's not really an issue for most of OW competitive players. Absolutely no one complained about how busted she was before Dive became meta, so I'll say that that's the reason for her recent success.
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>>182450648
You sound really fucking stubborn and stupid.
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>>182450696
her full mag damage is 240
480 with headshot
that's more than enough to kill any support / 200 hp characters
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>>182450530
>certain kits and playstyles will always be stronger
No; balance isn't hard to achieve.

Blizzard, however, knows this. Intentional imbalance acts like cheap content- as the meta shifts, it breathes new life into a game, requiring new information to be learned and memorized, new strategies to come up with and old strategies to be rethought. It attracts attention- what if my hero is finally viable? What if the new meta hero can get me to 4k?

Real balance kills the game.
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>>182449961
>A question worthy of response
You're one of those people who autistically screech about the comp and cry when people don't change, aren't you?
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>>182450746
she was just always good
just like Lucio
but now the meta is in her favor and that makes her even better
But I'n not really the one asking for her nerfs, I want significant buffs to the bottom 6 characters
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>>182450416

>She has these downsides to balance her out thats why shes the most picked damaging hero in the game by a huge margin

>>182450474

>6 defense heroes in the game
>All of them sans widow in certain places only by really good players are unplayable
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>Enemy moved the payload and won even though we were on the point and it said contested.
>-25
Xd
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I WANT A REINHARDT TITTYPAD
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>>182450735
Don't be silly anon, I play, THEN masturbate. Thats how I get the full Overwatch experience.
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>>182450918
>projecting this hard
Most suggestions in this general don't get a response because 99% of the people who post here are below platinum and don't know why certain changes work or don't work
Thanks for not contributing a single thing to the discussion with your post and proving my point though!
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Will Blizzard make Reinhardt relevent again? Doomfist will make him completely obsolete.
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>>182450767

>Ad hominem because I don't agree with your pessimistic attitude towards game balance and completely lack of trying

Whatever man, you're entitled to your own opinion.
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>>182451049
She's the most picked because of Dive you retard. As soon as there's something else shaking the meta up you bet your ass your favourite Soldier will go back to top DPS, you don't have to worry.
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>>182451113
You're not as smart as you think you are.
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>>182451092
>not before
you get so relaxed after a masturbating session
helps me focus
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>>182451245
I'll keep that in mind next time and see if it helps.
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>>182451113
You're right. I'm projecting and you're better than 99% of people in this thread.
Now read that back to yourself with some self-awareness.
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Xbox GT: Girseph
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>>182451212
Clearly, I mean look at all these counterarguments you've given, how can my tiny brain compete
Hint: If you can't even parse the post you're replying too, don't reply to it!
>>182451339
I'm better than over 99% of the people who play this game if SR statistics are to be trusted, and this general is worse than the blizzard forums in terms of dumb ideas, so i'd say thats a fair guess - sorry if it upset your polystyrene sensibilities though ;)
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>>182451245
>Not using your feet and advanced ancient tibetan techniques to both play and masturbate at the same time
Literal definition of a pleb
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>>182451136
They'd have to either buff him hard or nerf multiple heroes
Everyone figured out that you can just blast through chokepoints while D.va and Winston eat everything
also he actually just needs to be fixed first
Charge is unreliable and his hammer hitbox is fucked
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>>182451528
Uhh anon, sorry to tell you but the 99th percentile isn't the good one
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>>182451206

>Muh dive

And when exactly is dive going to go away considering Jeff considers the game balanced right now, and they're only looking at improving roadhogs defenses and changing mercy's rez?

This is Overwatch now. Tracer and winston are the poster girl/gorilla and are gonna be top picks for a long time
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>>182451671
Reread what I said and then kill yourself
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>>182451563
>moneyshot
>dink, dink, dink.... dink
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>>182451528
>parse

I struck a nerve.
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>>182451671

Ironic
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>>182445151
Gold hero damage, elims, and objective time. With 3 dps mains on the same team.
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>>182451864
As winston ;)
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>>182451790
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>>182445151
Roadhog at 450hp standing patiently on top of a small healthpack far away from his team
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>>182451528
What did you get on the SAT?
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>>182450847
Never thought of it that way
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>>182452012
Better than 99% of people here
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>>182452012
I don't live in the US so I haven't taken them
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>>182452164
So... What did you get on the SAT?
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>>182449231
All I want is swimsuit Sombra. All her skins are too bulky and I want a nice look at her form.
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>>182452218
Oh. So you're irrelevant. That explains a lot.
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>>182445151

There is nothing more infurating than fighting practically the entire entire team, going 3:1, and then seeing your team way the fuck behind you poking from a choke as the other team pushes the payload 10 miles for free or your team then runs in and loses the 5v3.
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>>182450847
Yeah but they seem to nerf more than they buff, so at one point every hero in the game will need buffing at once. Also by doing this, they change hero roles constantly. Take for example McMeme. His ult used to be an area denial, with 50% back if the area was clear. Now its just another 'Press Q for eliminations with very little counterplay' ult
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>>182452147
It's a pretty normal thing really, prevents the meta from getting stale

Starcraft, dota 2, counter strike, league- they all do it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w
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Give me a reason I should even try to play aim reliant heavy characters when they get fucked over so easily
maybe I need to autistically have over 200 hours on them or just get a aimbot
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Xbox GT: Girseph
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>>182452283
Sorry I don't own a Special Assault Team
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>>182452406
Imagine setting up 2 posts just to say "people from america suck", epic burn /b/ro!
Meanwhile i'm sitting here waiting for a single response to an argument I made instead of people getting burthurt I dropped the truth bomb that they're shit on them
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I feel like once you play in GM long enough you start to recognize a ton of other GM since the pool is smaller.

Any GMs here? Post your names and lets see if we recognize each other
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>>182452465
The video wouldn't be half as bad if the guy wouldn't pitch his voice so badly.
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>>182452468
I'm sorry you have Parkinson's, anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnl9BaAsps
>7 people paid 20 million

this is gonna be a disaster isn't it
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>>182452283
Reread what I said and then kill yourself

>>182452406
Fukc the USA only faggots live their
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>>182452707
>Nate "Nae Nae" Nanzer
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>>182452707
>there are more teams to be announced
In the promo pic they sent out ages ago they had upwards of 40 teams, please watch the video before you post it here
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>>182452630
They get fucked over by dive and bad hitboxes so its too late for me to get into them
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>>182452707
>professional league for a casual game
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Lucio!
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>>182452707
>Boy its going to be fun watching the worlds' best Winston, Lucio, Tracer, Genji, D.Va and Zenyatta players compete with each other, only to lose to South Korea running a joke Torb, Junkrat and Orisa-The Event

Don't forget guys, Jeff said that every toon in the game is in a good place right now in terms of balance
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>roadhog got nerfed because blizzard didn't like his style of gameplay or whatever
>scatter arrow is still in the game
>mei, a hero designed to be as annoying as possible, is still in the game
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>>182453304
Yeah but the game is balanced now, Jeff said so!
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>>182453304
There are multiple heroes where you are playing your best if you're being as annoying as possible
Mei is also easy as fuck to counter if you're past level 50
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>>182452707
Rein still bugged

Dive meta still the only way

About 10 heroes that would work on the meta

Maining now a thing encouraged.

I'm just hoping at this point that they won't be worse that the twitch streamers we have.

>your obscure country might get washed off by a srs bsns country
>BRs will now have 2 7-1 to remember of
>all of this avoidable with local and city wide tournaments that blizzard didn't wanted to invest
Can't wait for the huge disparity of skill to show
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>>182453304
>mei and hanzo are still hot garbage
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>>182453304
Tigole Bitties' word is law in Blizzard offices
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I had the best game of this season so far
>playing as winston
>74 elims
>22k hero damage
>45 objective kills
>230 enemies knocked back
>30 melee kills
>potg is me throwing enemies in a small room and getting 5 kills
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>>182453304
don't agree with Roadhog nerf but you're listing to heroes who have never been good.
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>>182453506
Of course they are hot garbage but Hanzo keeps getting picked by edgy weebs in nearly every rank. Now give me a reason why Hanzo is allowed to one-shot Orisa for example with just one single press of a button that isn't his ultimate.
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>>182450336

no because it'd go directly against what these guys do to keep the game 'fresh' IE changing the meta
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Tell me why I shouldn't onetrick since Blizzard wants me to lose 40 SR and gain 15 if I play the way the game is expected to play, but being a onetricking faggot gets me 40 on a win and 10 on a loss.
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>>182453506
>>182453646
mei and hanzo being trash is not the issue

according to blizzard, roadhog didn't get nerfed because he was good, he got nerfed because blizzard thought he was bullshit

what I'm saying is, why don't these other bullshit heroes get changed
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>>182453749
dont lose games so you wont lose sr Keppe
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>>>/gif/10856811
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I love Angela!

She's a smart and kind humanitarian and a great role model!

Do you love someone anon? Tell me about them! Why do you love them?
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>>182453749
Your team will think you are throwing

Then your gains will simply not happen
>>
This game is more balanced than it's every been in and no hero in the current meta is 100% broken. Some heroes have an annoyingly high 'effectiveness:skill cap' ratio but for the most part every hero has a counter and good teamwork combined with general skill can win any game regardless of composition.
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>>182453664

Because thats all he has god dammit

Take it away and he's got nothing left
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>>182453857
I disagree.

The game heavily favors mobile characters. It is true that every character is equal to another balance wise but their mobility allows for a better control of the engagement. The agile characters have more strategical options that their counterparts
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>>182453896
Yeah but why is he allowed to do that.
Hanzo could also just headshot someone just like Widowmaker would.
Speaking of Widowmaker she doesn't have that "Oh shit I can't seem to aim better press all buttons" button.
I don't play either of those heroes but it really makes you think.
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>>182445151
Getting 5 gold medals as Sombra with an Ana, Zen, Soldier, Widow and Rein on my team. Dont que up with random invites.
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>>182445151
me getting team kill with symmetra on lijiang twice in the exact same area
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>>182454015
No, what makes me think is that YOU seem to think you're good enough at this game to think you can say something like that as if it's profound truth.
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>>182445151
anyone who allows a triple or higher ult kill to happen
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>>182446767
t. mcree main who gets his ult cucked
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>>182453810
Pharmercy is best ship
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@182453819
I hate how your picture grossly oversizes mercies breasts, and I hate how you're trying to derail the thread into waifufagging for the 100th time today
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>>182453857
I think one of the problems is nerfed high skillcap heroes and buffed no skill required heroes. It doesnt make any sense you can go high rank as mercy aka press two buttons, hide and rez. There is nothing wrong if someone is really good at mercy and dedicated to improve but the amount of gurl gaymers and shitters who cant play anything else pick mercy and boom, they climb 2k sr in one season. I think high skillcap heroes deserve more sr for wins.
Blizzard should really do smaller nerfs and buffs instead of nerfing something to extinct or buff something to 100% meta
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>>182454179
At what point in time did I claimed to be a demi god at the game?
I pretty sure that Hanzo can pull of some impresive plays with his scatter arrow but 90% of the time he just fires it under your feet and instagibs you with it and I fail to understand why he's getting is kind of abilty especially since Rodhog got nerfed for this very reason.
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>>182454237
>be Sombrero
>know enemy Zarya has ult
>try to warn team by typing
>*INCOHERENT RUSSIAN WARCRY*
>join my team on purpose in the deathball out of shame
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Yes Orisa didn't come to main servers until after 19 days, BUT HOLY GOD SHE ALREADY HAD ALL HER COSMETICS AND STUFF WITH HER IN THE PTR, BLIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
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>>182454409
Niggerfist is in ptr so they have time to rush the cosmetics
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>>182454409
They don't want you to bask into the glory that will be doomfist in a thong

Or his 70's disco skin

Or his whigga skin
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>>182454360
Well right here lad
>I don't play either
Play him first and then you'll find out your talk is cheap
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Post naughty Reaper :3
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>>182453664
Why Roadhog got nerfed 101
>Tigole mains Winston
>Dive is Winstons' only meta
>Roadhog is the only thing stopping the dive metapocalypse
>Roadhog directly counters Winston

>Be Jeff aka Tigole Bitties
>Time to buff the Dive meta
>aka Time to nerf the Hog

>Be Jeff's wife, Angelista
>Literal 6 day Mercy main
>Pharmercy is cancer
>Honey, can you not nerf Mercy pleeeeease

Corruption exists in all forms. Its' a conspiracy I'll tell you! When will Jeff release his data to Overbuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-D6SuwiDAA
https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/angelista-1289
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>>182445151
People who don't play their role and all the shitty "top tier" players who don't do the objective because it's beneath them. The rest of the team should take care of guarding/taking point while they run around thinking they're awesome.

Also was playing a game today were twice the payload was close to the checkpoint with less than 10 seconds. Both times the Mercy on my team ran away from the payload instead of holding it back for few seconds.
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>>182454341
Just dont pay any attention to that faggot, not that hard.
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>>182454579
That's what mercy do best

They expect your team to be wiped out. So they go away to ress them lazy asses
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>>182445151

Me losing a melee-range circle strafing duel to a zero suit D Va as Zenyatta.
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>>182454360

Because roadhog has 600 hp, a 300 heal, and a ranged stun that drags you into him.

Hanzo has 200 hp and wall climb as if that counts as as defensive ability
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>>182454553
I played every hero for at least five hours of course that doesn't make me an expert for said hero but isn't my player experience enough to form an opinion. Good lord you act like you feel genuinely hurt in your feelings.
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>>182452386
the real dilemma is when will they allow you to use different gun skins and character skins, i like the cyberspace gold gun but i like the los muertos azucar skins better but the gun for those skins looks like garbage
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>Ana can charge her scope when zoomed for double heal/damage
How terrible would this be?
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>>182445151

Nothing pisses me off more than when I'm on defense and the entire enemy team is on top of the payload and they push it through the entire middle section in 30 seconds because nobody wants to contest it. I'm not proud of it but I can't begin to guess how many times I have had to yell at my team to get on the payload.
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>>182454949

Terrible.
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>widow's zoomed shots no longer require charging

there now shes fixed
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>>182448729
It's not revealing enough until we can see her nipples and vagina. But that's not going to happens because americans are almost as intolerant as muslims when it comes to nudity. Mindless violence is ok, but seeing a glimpse of genitals is not.
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>>182454736
because zen has a retardedly big head hitbox for some reason
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>>182434613
Even more reason that letting Ana and Jack go was inexcusable.
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>>182453857
Rein has video game alzheimers and roadhog is fucking unusable but I do agree that the game is in a good place for the most part
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>>182454653
I didn't, they haven't gotten a (you)
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>>182454825
You act like scatter arrow is a crime against humanity when in reality it's merely what makes Hanzo Hanzo
The reason he can do that is BECAUSE he's Hanzo
take it away and you may as well remove him from the game.
There's a reason he's not picked very often by good players
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>>182454684
>They expect team to get wiped because the team is shit
> The team is fine for that skill level, however they lose the teamfight because the Lucio couldn't keep the entire team alive while ultimate's were going off thus they all died to a lack of healing
> Mercy gets her 5 man PotG rez, fucking up everyones positioning
>This is good play

I swear, after that 2000hr Mercy compilation video came out, the healsluts have been talking back more, as if they have to do anything in the first place
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I only play like 3 games a week. Shoot me straight, u think I will make it to diamond this season?
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>>182455043
/owg/ balanceposting is always hilarious
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>>182455079
Also because the game isn't R Rated, you idiot.
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I just want Mercy to be removed from the game.
Why did they think a character like this was a good idea to begin with?
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>>182455161
That's straight climbing but it gets more difficult when you start to reach diamond. I got to 2980+ multiple times but always got throwers and shitters every time I was a win away from diamond. Reached diamond eventually tho
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>>182454816
>Hanzo gets instakills on most of the cast from all ranges, with an ability which makes instakills easier once every 10 seconds with no downsides
>Hog (used to) get instakills on most of the cast in two extremely hard to hit ranges, is detriment for most of his playtime and gets an ability that makes exclusively mid range instakills easier once every 9 seconds, however all his counters can survive this ability and be in their optimal range to kill him in return
''''Balanced''''''
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>>182454396
i used to main sombra when she was released and after 60+ hours on her in s3 it just wasnt worth playing her

the only good buff she received was reducing hack cd from 12 to 8 seconds

theyre forever gonna ignore the fact that her 160dps sucks ass and that hacking emp doesnt disable all active ultimates as it should do

she simply requires far too much team co operation and outside 6 stacks and comp shes never going to be feasible no matter what anyone says
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>>182455589
>her 160dps
I thought this meme died long time ago
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>>182455546
hog could do 400+ damage in one hit with shotgun and hook

there is absolutely no justification for calling that balance, hanzo's arrows are rendered useless with a shield, hanzo also cannot heal or hold his ground or camp the payload
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>>182455546

>Extremely hard to hit ranges
>20m

Anon its not like Overwatch is played in an open field. 20m is not a hard range
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>>182453819
When the fuck is this going to be a skin for Mercy?

Imagine a sweater and labcoat Mercy in game
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>shitters compare rng based shit hero to no skill one shotter with unjustified 300hp self heal tank
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is there a way to fix stat tracking sites since the new measurement blizzard introduced messed it up?
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>>182456010
Fucking horrible
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>>182455710
Choose
-Shit DPS
or
-A hack which could make it harder for the enemy to kill you, but at the same time if they couldn't damage you during the jack, you could have just pumped them full of lead and be done with it.

Her hack is only worth taking down Rein shields. Otherwise she revolves around her Ult, which his basically 6 instahacks at once-thus toons that don't rely on their abilities (such as S76) just don't care
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>>182455393
I dont
especially when 90% of people who play this game are shitty dps instalockers that never switch
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>>182456010
Haha cool
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>>182454574
Not surprising

Before Overwatch I played a lot of Planetside 2. Similar thing happened there, and the former lead dev even admitted it after he quit his job.
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>>182455589

Sombra is literally fine. Not too strong (Like some other offense heroes who should not be named) And not so weak she's useless. This state of being "Balanced" unfortunately relegates her to niche tier because apparently blizzard is fine with a small group of heroes dominating play and the rest being shit.

If you wanna talk about a hero never being feasible look at bastion. The hero was underpowered for a year, they tried reworking him, improved some things while making others shittier and left it at that. And thus he reamins: Never Pick tier
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Official OW Cuddling tiers:
>Little spoon
Tracer
Lucio
Genji
Junkrat
D. Va
Mei

>Big spoon
Reinhardt
Pharah
Zarya
Roadhog
Doomfist

>Either spoon
McCree
Sombra
Mercy

>Sleeps separate
Symmetra
76
Hanzo
Torb

>Sleeps in the other room
Ana
Winston (unwillingly)
Orisa

>Implying they sleep
Bastion
Zen
Reaper
Widow
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>>182456340
What, Higby did? Story?
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>>182456383
Fuck off autist
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>>182456207
Her hack can shut down tracer, genji, soon niggerfist, dva, rein, winston, kinda pharah and mercy too
And the ult requires efficient team work to be worth anything. She's useless below high gm and t500 unless you've really good communication
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>>182455150
I'm not going to hate on Mercy cause I'm a healslut myself but that definitely goes with my second point; Where a player is way more focused on their high score rather than team strategy.

>>182454684
I can understand wanting a high res to a degree but the first time she ran she was literally the only one there who could've done something. The second time she ran both me and another teammate were 15ft away trying to close in.
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>>182456431
No
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>>182456343
>when bastion had 35% damage reduction in sentry and ult and everyone tarded out because it suddenly took more than 1 hero to kill him

this was among one of the lowest point in the ow playerbase history
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>>182456405
Nerfed the shit out of vehicles because he had something like 10 minutes in them, but thoudands of hours as infantry.
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>>182455773
>Hog could do 400+ damage in one hit with shotgun and hook

>There is absolutely no justification for calling that balance, hanzo's arrows are rendered useless with a shield, hanzo also cannot heal or hold his ground or camp the payload


>Hanzo could do 450 with a scatter in one hit

>There is absolutely no justification for calling that balance, Hog's hook and Shotgun is rendered useless with a shield, Hog also has no mobility or hold his ground without hook or camp a doorway

See pic
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For some reason Mei just ticks me off, even if she's on our team.

Maybe it's her annoying voice lines, I don't know.
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>>182456561
Oh well that's fine, vehicleshitters can go kill themselves

well I suppose it doesn't matter anymore because nobody plays PS2 anymore, but whatever
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>>182454961
That's the absolute worst when it's your team's job to move the payload and there's whole minutes of the match were no one is pushing or even near the payload.
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>>182456767
AV turrets out of render range is NOT okay.
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>playing with same people all the time in diamond
this game really is dying. I see same people all the time and diamond isnt even the smallest amount of players
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>>182457058
theres a gold star hog main in bronze eu i see him a lot
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>balance around instagibs
>remove instagibs
>game breaks
Woooow
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Any EU players around 3900 want to make that GM climb?
Main Lucio/Soldier
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>>182457204
>over 1100 games
>bronze
HOW
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>>182457209
because poor game design, imagine if when you died you didnt respawn in base but instead respawned close to the objective/payload
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>>182456560

>Lucio is the most picked hero in the game since he was added in closed beta
>Nerf him repeatedly so he's less insane, but still the most picked
>This is fine

>Tracer gets consistently played as one of the top played heroes with literally 0 changes since she was created
>This is fine

>Bastion isn't viable ever
>Gets buffed to finally be viable
>Community REEEEEEs and he gets nerfed back down to unplayability

I seriously wanna know what goes through the devs heads and if they even play the game enough to know who needs attention and who doesn't.

Stop touching soldier and genji and and shit who always see play and fix the heroes who never see play
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>>182457349
ask him

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Malle-21240?
https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Malle-21240?
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I've got a mousepad now, there is literally nothing that can stop my winstreak from 2510 to 4500 now.

watch me bois
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Die Wunder der modernen Medizin
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>>182457460
Bastion doesnt fit the game above gold. It's very easy to counter since he has to sit down to be useful. And he was overbuffed but you didnt mention that for ((((((some reason))))))). He could self heal through blade and dragonstrike
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>>182457058
Diamond is like 10% of the competitive playerbase and the game always tries to put you with people that gives you the lowest ping
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>attack
>leave voice chat
>go sombra
>defence
>leave voice chat
>go torb
Is there a better way to play this game?
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>Lose a comp match
>but I worked with my team, and they were cool, and we lost reasonably even if it was a steamroll
>unsatisfying, but it happens

>go another comp match
>team agrees to a non-standard comp which is really interesting, communicates well etc., it's pretty even and well fought
>one guy on the enemy team leaves
>the rest except two eventually leave as well due to considering it lost
>the first guy returns as he'd been disconnected, but it's too late
>unsatisfying win

>back to the SR I had two matches ago

Now I'm just sat here unsatisfied.
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>>182457625
>tfw got a mouse pad not to long ago
>Ana main
>suddenly sleep darts r hitting their targets

feels good lads
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>>182456383
>Winston (unwillingly)
I can see him as the type who is left out at night, gets scared of a thunderstorm, and tries to squeeze in through the cat door before giving up
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>>182457706
>He could self heal through blade and dragonstrike
Are there any webms of this?
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Translate one of your favourite voice lines into your native language. Does it sound good?

I'll start
>Violence is usually the answer
Swedish
>Våld är oftast svaret
It sounds a bit more aloof in Swedish
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>>182457695
"Die wunder auf modernen medizin" I don't even know if that's all right but I know "of" was wrong. "Die" and "Der" both me "the" just different genders.
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>>182457209
i remember i used to go on the lol forums to see what shit they talk about dota players and i found it funny that they thought the most game breaking heroes were huskar and bloodseeker which to put into perspective how badly designed lol was (huskar has a passive that gives him increased attack speed and magic damage resistance as his health gets lower) and bloodseeker has an ultimate that causes you to take damage if you move as a % of the distance moved and it lasts 12 seconds, if something like rupture got added as an ability in ow it would completely break the game
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>>182457773
Welcome to matchmaking. I felt like that in Dota, too, which is why I stopped playing.
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>>182457706

>Hero that literally cannot move or attack can do something to survive weablade and weaboostrike

Wow thats amazing. Almost like how zarya can barrier herself to survive both abilities. Or Pharah can press shift and fly out of both. Or Tracer can press E and recall out of both.

But clearly bastions ability to actually DO something was "Overbuffing" him. Obviously

Thats the fucking problem with this community. Some heroes are allowed to be strong and thats ok, buff another hero to add to the meta and its "Overbuffing" and everyone thinks it needs to be back where it belongs
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>>182457862
>Can't stop, won't stop!
English
>>Can't stop, won't stop!

I feel it gets the point across just as well.
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>>182457053
Haven't played PS2 in some time, especially after /ps2g/ died.
Is dropping from the skybox out of the faction specific light aircraft as the Light Assault with Drifters, SMG and C4 still the objective best and most fun way to play the objective and get kills?
Vanu supremacy
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>>182457827
he could outheal the damage from dragonstrike as long as he held heal and it was damaging/healing the armour part of his health
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>>182458052
The more mobile a character is the more okay it is for them to one shot.
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Gabe and Jeese go to the beach.
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>>182457625
>>182457812
what the fuck were you using before if not a mousepad?
How did you NOT have a mousepad before?
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>>182458150
Couldn't he survive a solo Pharah ult? But nah, they had to nerf the little guy because dumb Pharah's solo ulting Bastions weren't happy
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>>182458329
I started using a mousedorm, before I got a mouseapartment but it wasn't much better to be honest
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>>182458329
The collected fat and dust that gathered under my wrist
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>>182458052
Because of the outcry I also wouldn't expect Bastion to be buffed ever again.
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I like how you can tell from the very first teamfight who's gonna win
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>get to Diamond
>suddenly throwers everywhere

Welp time to derank back to Platinum, at least that rank is fun, not full of this shitheads that needs to die.
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>>182458721
but you can't?

Damn you are easily tilted
>>
>be Zen
>76 wants to swap to Mercy
>I play 76
>"lol anon how do I have gold elims as mercy??? do your job dps!"
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>>182444906
This game would be better if genji, tracer, and hanzo, were removed.
>>
Roadhog new passive:
- -10% ult charge from damage, +10% ult charge on healing. This punishes brainless spam.
- critbox damage bonus is halved, x1.5 or 1.75 for Widow. Now headshotting heroes don't have free x2 damage against him.
>>
anyone here from sweden/denmark/norway, in plat and want someone to play with?
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>>182458805
Cool story bro
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>>182458761
but you can, if your team is so retarded they can't deal with orisa torbjorn then it's not worth trying.
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>>182458815
Objectively bad and doesn't address his key problems

>Revert all hook changes
>Make the hook hitbox the size of the hook
Done
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>>182457931
What the fuck are you trying to say?
>>182457695 is correct
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>>182457460
>Nerf him repeatedly so he's less insane
the only 2 nerfs lucio got were
>amp it up
>he boosting of movement speed has been decreased by 30% (from a 100% increase to a 70% increase)
september 2016
and
>Healing per second has been decreased by 10%
in late 2016
his latest ""rework"" was mostly a buff
>more damage
>more speed
>better projectile speed
>30% increase on his heals
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>>182459031
Hello bronzo
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>lose first teamfight on koth map
>teammate runs back and says "wow literally no one on point"
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>>182459040
>Blizzard
>reverting

Why bad? Keep in mind you only can give him defense buffs without reworking him completely (too much work).
600 hp is actually a lot when everyone doesn't do 2x damage.
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>>182459281
>everyone else fighting over extenders
>winston jumps at point alone and dies immediately
>"why nobody on the point helping me?"
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>>182459427
>no armor
he's frailer than any other tanks + no defensive ability + no movement ability + huge hitbox
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>>182459243
>Latest rework was a buff
Wrong. That fact his healing is now AoE instead of LoS is a huge nerf for any dive comp not that it mattered, and is annoying for most other teams with Lucio on it, nearly completely offsetting the buffs he received
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>>182452886
>>182452803
>>182452707
37 Spots were for sale
Only 7 sold.

Leaks said they are going to sell them vastly cheap now and that Kraft did not pay full amount since he knew the OW League wasnt worth that much. It's also payment over time for him instead of 20 mil upfront like NRG paid.


And now details are emerging that most teams don't live in the cities they purchased or have any housing/venues there.

What a disaster. Regional shit does not work with eSports. It's supposed to be global since we have something called online play.
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Is there anything more frustrating than a good hanzo?
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How the hell are you guys dealing with throwers?
I want to fucking kill these people.
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Post your main without posting your main
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>>182459278
nope, plat
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>>182459986
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>>182459936
A good Widow. I played a game with a guy who had 200+ hours, it was miserable. Making eye contact was a quick trip to respawn.
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3 fucking months of constant bug reporting on the fucking forums and them doing absolutely squat, this is the response they give.
Blizzard deserves all they shit they get.
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~~~~~~~~HOW TO FIX COMP:~~~~~~~~

You choose a hero at the start of each round. You're allowed to switch heroes ONCE per round.

Between each round, you select a new hero and the heroes you've previously selected in the match are no longer available to be chosen (including any hero you switched to mid-round.)

In the unlikely event you are unable to pick a hero based on your used pool and the heroes the rest of the team has chosen, the game gives you a random hero that hasn't already been chosen that round from your used pool (you are unable to switch unless the circumstances allow i.e. someone else switches off a hero you haven't used yet.)

In the spirit of being competitive at the game at large, you'll need to have some skill with multiple heroes/situations. No longer will one tricks coast their way to high rankings, communication will be more important than ever, as will strategy as you try to discern what hero you should play given the score or the attack/defense, planning ahead, and counter picking mid-match as a calculated risk.

Thoughts?
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>>182459986
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>>182460127
>new cosmetics event
>suddenly mei's m1 and ult dont slow

>rein get a new skin
>it has a broken hitbox
>>
>been less than 40sr away from diamond all day
>getting literal fucking shit niggers on my teams
>fucking 5 dps team comps and niggers throwing all the time
this game is literal fucking trash no wonder it's dying
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>>182460127
Well since now Jeff is the one who said that they are looking into it, they might be actually looking into it since him saying it will give it much more publicity this time.
You might get lucky and Rein will get fixed.
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>>182460127
>Blizzard deserves all they shit they get.

But they get none. Nobody criticises them.
>>
>>182445151

Getting killed in a 1v1 dogfight and seeing our widow in the killcam 20 feet away missing three straght shots by a half mile each.
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>>182460203
There is beauty in sake
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>>182460268
you mean how every update the servers shit themselves without fail?
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>>182459427
Well if you can't revert the hook nerfs, they should at least decrease the cooldown of the hook.
They can either have
-The 10 second OHKO hook, heavily punishing out of place squishies
or
- The 5 second cooldown reactive hook, pulling anything out of place in the first place even further out of place, fucking up any team positioning the enemy has

Either way, meeting in the middle just destroys his role as the peel tank. His size, healing or enemy ult generation isn't the problem. Its the hook, and at the end of the day Blizzard just had to mess with something that wasn't really broken in the way they changed it. Literally decreasing the hitbox of Hook 1.0 would have been enough to get rid of the 'bullshit hook' argument.

tldr it wasn't bullshit because it was OHKO, it was bullshit because it could catch anything it briefly licked
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>>182460268
Public opinion on them has shifted wildly the last few weeks, as far as balancing decisions, the speed of their changes and how they treat the whole e-sport/competitive part of the game.
In Korea especially every forum post on whatever site is related to Blizzard gets shit on by the vast majority of the fans. The same fans that will suck Blizzcock the moment they do something that appears to alleviate the situation of course.
>>
>gain 150 sr
>lose 100 the next day
>gain 150 again the next day
>lose 100 again
I'm never allowed to just climb, I just get put with fucking retards till I lose then I have to claw my way back up for barely any sr gains. What the fuck is this
>>
gg wp guys
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>>182460219
>Hero gets a cosmetic addition
>Core hero mechanics suddenly bug out
For insignificant changes like this to be able to fuck up a hero's core abilities, one has to wonder what sort of software dev shitshow is going on behind the scenes.

It's also clear they barely playtest any of this crap because so many bugs make it into every single patch and even don't get fixed on the PTR.
>"we're looking into reported issues with Reinhardt"
Oh gee thanks, it only took half the community screaming for a month for you to wake up from your cocaine-induced coma
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>>182460178

I think you should fuck off and make your own damn game because that"s not OW.
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>>182460529
>4 golds have to carry my team to 3-2 victory
> +24

>have a below average game where i get killed several times but we comfortably stomp and get only 1 bronze
> +21

why bother trying?
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>>182460268
>Nobody criticises them.

Their two main subreddits turned on them when it came to
>Matchmaking
>Overwatch league
>meta/balance

I'd say that's them being shat on
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>>182460178
i actually said this earlier except you should only be allowed to switch between rounds and once the doors open you cant
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>>182459936
A good Genji
literally nightmare fuel
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This game has literally the WORST playerbase in video game history. You didn't pick a hero i wanted you to pick? Well I'll just pick a attack torb then. Three dps? Let's make that four. We are not stomping the enemy team? Let me silently change our second healer into an attack bastion that will surely work.
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>>182460568
>what sort of software dev shitshow is going on behind the scenes.
Jeff already admitted that the engine they are using called Prometheus which was the code for Overwatch. Ofc Prometheus is a stripped down Titan MMO engine.

Really baffles me that they are forcing people to play Overwatch on an MMO engine that does not even support scripting. That's right, they stripped so much they had to redo a lot of things but now they have more primitive features and tools because of that.
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>>182460780
Just played with one on my team, it was nice, I didn't have to do a damn thing. He had blade up every team fight, and sometimes in between.
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>>182460814
Play, or watch someone play LoL. You'd be surprised how much worse it can get.
I was.
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>>182460828
>code
codename*
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>>182460558
cheers anon. gg.
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>>182460814
I'm in fucking gold and I never see these kind of player, is it something you only see in high rank ?
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friends are consolefags and are buying me the console version to play with them
does ps4 overwatch support kb+m control?
I know balancing is a bit different so is there anything major I need to know?
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>horizon point a
>place tp up 3 seconds before they cap
>everyone goes through
>completely throw the game as they cap second while we're all stuck on first
>-9 sr
lole
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>>182460892
as a dota player i dont see the difference betwen lol and ow playerbase both awful as each other
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>>182460268
>Nobody criticises them.
what kind of insulated bubble do you live in?
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>>182445151
fuckin gretards getting of the payload to chase the enemy team in overtime. fucking retards deserve to fucking die
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>>182460972
afaik you need some sort of adapter for that
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>>182459983
I stop playing off meta
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>>182460568

>Win 1
>gain 25 sr
>Lose 1
>lose 30 sr
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>>182460597
t. Mercy and/or Pharah main
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>>182459986
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I HATE THIS GAME
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>>182459986
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>>182460007
Plat in this game is really low compared to other games.

Where 50% of the players are in OW is about Plat.

In other games 50% is the lowest tier usually like mid to high bronze.
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>>182460682
I had the most frustrating game earlier
>play tracer
>at half health
>somehow manage to kill 4 of them by myself (it was actually because they had autistm and chased me when I threw pulse bomb on the ground)
>Finally die to the last 2 people
>it's OT
>we lose because my team chose to walk off the point
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>>182461372
welcome to the club
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Overwatch male heroes butthole descriptions:

>Soldier 76
Slightly wrinkly. A bit loose and torn from being Reyes' fucktoy. Some gray hairs. Pinkish brown coloration.

>Reaper
Brown coloration, hairy and has dingleberries. Somewhat stinky and dirty from all the beans he eats.

>McCree
Hairy and brown like a starfish. Musky and shitty smell from all the dingleberries he has. Somewhat loose from being raped in his early blackwatch days.

>Reinhardt
Tight butthole with short whitish gray hairs. Keeps it clean so no shitstink or dingleberries.

>Junkrat
Very little hair. Medium dirty and stinky. Smells like shit and semen. Very loose from getting reamed and creampied by roadhog. Sometimes bloody and infected.

>Roadhog
Extremely dirty. Tight. Never wipes. Dried flaky shit all over the place. Very hairy. Always has hemorrhoids.

>Trobjorn
Long white hairs decorate his hole. Slightly musky. Tight.

>Hanzo
Shaves his hole for McCree. Pink and clean. Loose. No smell.

>Lucio
Shaved and clean. Has an anal piercing. Very loose from always taking cock. No smell.

>Genji
No hair. He doesn't shit so no smell. Butthole has a blue coloration from his cybernetic anatomy. Tight.
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>>182460987
I don't know why I see so many Dota players here acting like their community is somehow better than the rest. Maybe it's easier for people to ignore the rage and whining because it's in cyrillic? I have 565 hours on it and OW has been clearly more calmer even though it's still bad too often.
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>>182461517
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>>182461570
Nobody who plays dota likes the community except a handful of redditors who never got past five games
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I wish overwatch reports system would send you a message when your report actually did something. This shit must be only for show
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Why are Diamond players such a bunch of shit eating, cum slurping, whiney faggots? Why can't they just shut up and play? I'm at 2900 on my main account, so I'm getting paired with a lot of Diamonds and I don't want to keep going up. While the matches are slightly more intense and less forgiving to mistakes, I can't have 2 matches straight without throwers or leavers on either team.

Are players in mid-high diamond any different? I have the theory that low Diamond players are frustrated cunts that dropped their rank or just can't go any further up.
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>>182461693
>>182461570
because we have a superior game, superior esport, superior mechanic, superior cosmetics, superior gameplay

were just better in absolutely every way possible
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>>182461563
Now that's constructive posting
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>>182461272
So players who have mastered a character to it's highest level shouldn't be rewarded with climbing the ladder?
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>pick winston
>auto win because he's op
why is this allowed?
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>>182460972
$200 adapter but can get you banned in future when they get ban system on ps4 ow

75% of the high gm/t500 use adapters and the ones who dont are mercy, lucio and winston mains
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>>182460814

>forgetting the end of the game tilt Widow switch because the other guy is owning you.
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>>182461902
you get better SR gains with Tracer
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>>182461858
>Are players in mid-high diamond any different?
NO
You stay the fuck away from diamond. Save your fucking nerves, anon. There is no worse rank
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>lose 2
>win 2
>lose 2
>win 2
>slowly climbing SR anyway

Christ this is such a drag. Why does it feel like whenever I'm any sort of 2+ win streak I suddenly get team El Retardo with 5 support mains, who can't get a single kill in an entire match? This honestly feels rigged as fuck.
Hell, half my wins feel like because the other team is the El Retardo team, rarely ever have a close or balanced game it feels like.
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>>182461865
>we had
>we were
dota 2 is garbage now, TI3 peaked and it's been downhill since then
EG broke up, 7 turned it into kiddy shit, get out
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>>182461869
Thanks. What other descriptions should I make? Male penises?
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>>182460972
I play on PS4. It's fine. I use a Cronusmax to connect my keyboard and mouse. Bear in mind you need a computer nearby to use it. It's either that or buying a Xim4 or a TAC Pro that are 3 times more expensive.
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>>182462037
i bet youre just some shitter who fed because he was out of position and lost a few games and when the team turned on him he got butthurt
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>>182462014
tracer can't solo carry
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>>182461858
because I'm tired of you damn golds picking bad champs and wasting my effort and time when it's near impossible to win
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>>182462038
male dick sucking abilities
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>>182461902
>Blizzard thought Winston was weak in general when it was really Tank meta shitting on him
>gave him unneeded buffs after tank meta was gutted
now he has no viable counter cause, and you cant say Reaper cause he gets cucked by Dva
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>wake up
>youtube notifications
>salty bitch made hog main tears
i knew there was a reason i was still subscribed
https://youtu.be/f7r0DwISGv0
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>>182461858

99.9% of low diamonds are boosted.
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>>182461909
>$200 adapter but can get you banned in future when they get ban system on ps4 ow

That's bullshit. The TAC Pro is an official, Sony licensed product.
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>>182462139
tracer can kill tanks
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>>182461563

I mean I'm not against shitposting especially when it's well typed and thought out, but I have to wonder why did you waste so much time on male assholes my man?

Do female armpits.
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>>182452465
>>182450847
I think that's genuinely true.
Dota 2 stopped being fun for me as the game started to get more balanced. It's not perfectly balanced ofc, but hero usages are getting pretty fucking good. Every hero is getting picked at least once in every tournament. And yet, I feel like I'm starting to lose interest.
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>>182462130
I put 3k hours in and got bored by 7
You seem really salty because you know your game is dead
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>>182462231
That would mean that even LESS players higher than diamond should belong there.
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>>182462363
>broke last year's ti prizepool
>1 moth till main even and immortals 3 still not out

and what does ow have? playing with the same people several matches in a row?
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>>182462254
>That's bullshit.
I was talking about (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((adapter)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) not tac shit, it's fucking garbage and it mimics the analog sticks which means it's not even close to a mouse. And the tac keyboard is awful trash
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>>182462214
>Bastion was and still is pretty much useless since the release, we don't care
>Junkrat was and always will be useless, and he's the second hero the team made, we don't care
>Torbjorn is mostly useless, only having his moments in fringe cases, we don't care
>Sombra is useless from her release, and only now slowly gains viability, we don't care
>Orisa is outshined by rein in every possible way, and why the fuck did they even release this cow? We don't care
BUT OH BOY HERE COME THE HOG NERF, WHY DO WE NOW HAVE A USELESS HERO, HOW IS THIS ALLOWED JEFF, WHAT THE FUCK, WE SUDDENLY CARE
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>>182462542
>what does Overwatch have
It's more fun
When I want a challenge I play a fighting game because team ELO games are a joke
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>>182462542
He still isn't wrong.
Everything after TI3 is shit. Icefrog ruined the game since he couldn't figure out how to nerf rat or splitpushing.

Everything after that has been a constant nerf to pushing or huge buff to deathballing. You know like league of legends?
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>>182462320
no, she can't. not against any half competent team because any damage you do will just be healed up instantly.
You can try to take out healers and you'll be very successful, but then you'll get killed by tanks and your team won't follow up.
Winston can do tracer's job of killing healers and he'll live and the team will actually follow you in. plus his ult keeps him alive.
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>>182461570
>play Dota2 either ranked or unranked
>get Russians, Southeast Asians, and other foreigners screaming at each other the entire game in their respective languages
>when I picked the US East server
>every game is a fucking salt mine with people flinging shit the entire match if one little thing goes wrong

>play OW ranked or unranked
>unranked barely anyone talks, who cares
>ranked has mostly people cooperating and strategizing together, or at least trying to
>the only time people even get somewhat angry is if we have someone doing something REALLY dumb, or an intentional thrower

OW is way better as far as community goes. The only shitty thing is that Blizzard doesn't seem to have any plan to ban people that throw games all day, unless you're a pro player that publicly streams it.
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how do you like your meis /owg/? thicc or sticc?
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>>182462373

They come from yeard of CoD and BF to play OW with friends and get by with good aim even though they have zero to minimal game sense.

They have enough skill to get pulled up to low Diamond but when their friends in High Diamond and Masters arent around to tell them what to do and carry them they crash and burn.
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>>182461657
how romantic

too bad they'll never b canon
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BUFF ORISA PLS
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>>182462794
Tracer's damage is more burstly, so more effective against characters that get healed
if you're against a Mercy / Zen that heal each other, you're never gonna kill them as winston but will with tracer
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>>182462573
The Cronusmax does the same than the Xim4 and the TAC. The difference between them is that one of them do the processing within the device itself, while the other needs a PC with a software to do it. Blizzard can't even detect when somebody is using any sort of these adapters. And surely they cannot stop you from using one.
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>playing baby D.va right after my mecha is destroyed
>Roadhog right in front of me
>pretty much ignores me while he tries to kill some Lucio pushing him around
>basically sits still trying (and failing) to hook Lucio while I shoot him to charge my ult
>around 80% ult charge, Raodhog is about to die, which would force me to spend more time as baby D.va
>useless sack of lard actually heals right in front of me, which is enough for me to charge my ult to full
>go mecha and instagib him in 3 seconds
Thank you Roadhog shitters for making this game so easy
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>>182463001
Thicc. Literally, what's the fucking point of fapping to Skinny Mei when Tracer and Mercy exist.
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>it's another OW vs league vs dota argument
I'm high elo in all three and I've played all 3 for the entire length of their existences and I can tell you you're all retarded. They all have a lot of faggots and plenty of good people too and they have about the same rates of both and a lot of the bad things are the same across all of them.

When people try to say one is better or worse I can literally tell right away that that person is just talking up the game that is their preference, OR that they simply haven't played one as much as the others.

Same applies to smite and tf2.

The only game that is actually worse in my personal experience is csgo, but then again I'm not high elo in that one like I am with the others I've talked about so I dare not say for sure either way.
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>>182463001
I prefer Mei's actual in game body type, it's just a shame most people either draw her as an obese hamplanet, or skinny girl with big tits.
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>>182463001
I like my Mei's like my love for the game, non existent
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Does anyone have transparent image files for the ultimate counter that has electricity coming out? I wanted edit something with Sombra's.
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>>182451528
It's like you're pretentious but in a really ignorant way
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>>182462794
she has 240dps which ok its a lot but her effective range is extremely low and it makes her very vulnerable because of her low health
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>>182463061
>too bad they'll never b canon

Man, you're gonna get a rude awakening.
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>>182463235
B-but tf2 is much worse. It has very little variety and the balance is terrible
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>>182451605
Don't you worry, the game is balanced.
Reinhardt is fine the way he is.

t. Blizzard
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Controversial opinion:
2CP fucking sucks
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>achieve a 52% winrate
>12 game losing streak
...I... you know what, forget it. I quit. This isn't fun
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>>182463567
everybody thinks that
fuck lunar colony in particular
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>>182463267
could you post an example of her in game body type?
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>tfw want new Summer beach skins
>probably too hard to implement in a FPS game without screwing up silhouettes
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>"It's nice to be appreciated"
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>>182445151
Our team half dead while our widow and hanzo are literally 1 foot away from the point and never touching it. We lose.

I know its a joke that snipers are allergic to the objective but what the fuck.
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how long until we get an offence omnic so i can exclusively main the master race?
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When will they kill Pharamercy?
This is literally the combo of losers. Like if you beat them one round they WILL use it the next round. And even then it's stupidly strong so then I have to go out of my way to fight it.
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>>182463525
I thought we were talking about the people who play, not the mechanics of the game itself.

but between the three games that sparked the conversation, there are a lot more similarities than people here seem to think. I'll leave it at that.
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Post your unpopular opinions here.

Witch Mercy isn't that great of a skin.
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>>182463507
Oh.. I hope I do.

Blizz will never have the balls to make their golden poster boy gay lmao
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>>182463683
Sure
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>>182463863
i like combat medic better because of the hairstyle and the clothes, but i dont like the combat medic caduceus staff
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>>182463806
Reaper is made entirely of nano machines so he's technically an omnic.
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>>182463806
Holy balls, Zennyboy looks pretty neat with this skin and gold weapons.
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>>182463806
>not playing Bastion as an offense character
>not getting a card for double digit recon kills every game
>not out performing your DPS cucks and having your Ana nano boost you every time for free triple-quad kills with sentry mode
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>>182463912
i meant without her coat on but okay.
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>>182463832
zens discord should debuff both people linked by a mercy beam
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>>182463682
trying to cap 2nd point on Lunar is awful
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>>182463887
Bisexual.
Give him a previous female love interest before the omnic crisis that ended before meeting Gabe.

Problem solved.
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>>182463863
Most legendary skins are terrible, mostly because the base design of each character is often better
>>182464040
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>ywn play hog on illios:well again

Fuck you blizzard
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>>182464162
xiexie.
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>>182463832
there's no special interaction between pharah and mercy outside of special voice lines
It gives the ability for Mercy to fly but she's weaker and easier to hit in the air, so you rarely want to do that
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>>182464130
>implying Blizz will ever make best boy Reaper like dicks

can u imagine the amount of butter hurt people who would not play 76 or Reaper cuz they like men.. lmao

thats y blizz will never make them canon

Tracer is as safe as u can get when making gay characters
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>>182463806
Zenyatta is an offence omnic. His source of ult charge is mostly damage
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>winning CTF
>half the enemy team bails out in the last minute and the match ends, no win

Simply ebin, glad i didnt pay for this fucking shit game
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>>182464162
>tfw no casual clothes Mei skin
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>>182463863
Genji is a shit character and should be removed.
Ana nerfs were justified.
Mercy takes zero brain to play
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>>182464408
>playing CTF for boxes
Don't do that. You either lose because the enemy team has the cheesier comp, or it ends in a draw. You're better off rolling the dice and playing mystery heroes for arcade wins.
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>>182464373
You're being a baby. It's already been said there are multiple LGBT heroes. I hope that doesn't mean a lot (and it shouldn't) but it does mean more than one.

There would be far less outcry on Reaper.
I gave you the solution for S76.

Other than that, you're making a lot more of it than it is. Did you forget that people are still mad Tracer is gay?
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>>182464561
>mystery heroes
>Hanamura attack
Never again.
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>Sombra's hack is 2 seconds now in mayhem
Woah why was i not told this, time to become hackerman
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I barely play this game anymore but when I do it's custom games against six Anas, 150% movement speed and headshots only as Widow.
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>>182464618
I just want more gay characters so more people get mad over a fictional character's sexuality
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>>182464531
I actually also think genji is a bad hero. I honestly think if teams just ran Winston zarya instead of Winston d.va then both genji and tracer wouldn't be a problem because of bubble and beam
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>>182464561
Same shit can and has occurred in that mode. I do CTF because it's generally a quick affair. Activision is just shit at video games
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>people think Blizz will make any of Tumblr's gay fantasy ships canon

Why the fuck would they do that when they can keep it ambiguous, and the Tumbrlinas can keep their head canons? There would be massive fan outcry no matter who they officially ship with who, because NOOO OMG I CANT EVEN RIGHT NOW REAPER IS SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG GAY COCK CRAVING FAGGOT, LOOK ALL THIS FANART EVEN SAYS SOO WTF BLIZZARD WHY DO YOU HATE GAYS??? or WTF REAPER IS STRAIGHT AND IS IN LOVE WITH SOMBRA WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD WHY DID YOU MAKE HIM GAY????

You can't truly win with these people, and Blizzard knows this, so the only winning move is not to play.
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>>182464408
>>182464561
3v3 is the fastest and easiest way to win in arcade
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>Hammer down
>Get 3+ enemy team
>rest of team is off fucking with a winston or elsewhere

every
fucking
time
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>>182464684
because everyone has 2x health which means even if you hack them your damage is 50% less effective
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>>182464740
The sad existence of a deviant, good to know you'll kill yourself someday soon
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>>182463863
>Genji and Tracer dont require skill
>Symmetra and Winston need to be nerfed
>Defense matrix needs to be removed
>despite what people say about Mercy mains I hate dps only players more than those fags, at least they try to play a more useful class
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>>182464740
Tracer's reveal was so comfy. I'd love more shit like that. /owg/ having a meltdown is always fun.
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>>182464918
In the Christmas comic, it was confirmed that torb was straight and tracer gay
guess why people where mad
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>>182464740
Well you're gonna get your way.
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>you can get disconnected from the fucking practice range for inactivity
Brilliant programming there, Jeff.
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>>182465089
because rein/torb was sunk RIP best ship
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>>182463863
There was literally nothing wrong with 35% ironclad
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>>182465089
Torb and Rein have a brokeback mountain deal
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>>182465050
>t. Mercy main
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>>182464352

wtf are you talking about, are you retarded?
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what was the triple tank meta?
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>>182464918
Chu gives no fucks about any of that. He's already sunk several ships.
Jeff is the one who wants to protect tumblr's headcanons because he thinks they are "cool".

I'm curious who is going to win in this tug-of-war over the plot.
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>>182465039 (You)
>proving his point
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>>182464618
what Im saying is that blizz will never have to balls to make 76 or reaper bi/gay .. or a canon couple, and that making tracer, the poster girl gay was the safest "canon gay" u can get ...... thats all anon, didnt mean to get under your skin


and desu I really dont care for any of the heroes sexuality I only care for sombra n mccree cuz that shits hot
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>>182465050
nothing wrong with defence matrix and i dont even play dva

>>182465302
very bad
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>>182465216
Then explain to me how using pharah and mercy is magically OP
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>>182465205
I dont main Mercy, but Im okay with having one on my team cause I finally get to play other roles instead of trying to play that nigger Lucio or struggle with Zen while everything I do gets cucked by Dva
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>>182465463
he cant aim
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>>182465302
Rein/Zarya/(Hog or Dva in her 600hp overpowered state)
Ana/Lucio
S76
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>>182464684
Sombra is finally fun in mayhem

making monkey man and zarya suffer is what i live for

in fact being able to hack every 2 sec is the best feeling ever
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>>182465401
>what Im saying is that blizz will never have to balls to make 76 or reaper bi/gay

I just explained to you why that's wrong but, still to your opinion. You have no inclination of changing it apparently. Frankly, it's just naive to think they have imaginary restrictions over the story.
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>>182465174
Oy vey I want to be able to stomp Bastion without even considering switching okay?
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Doomfist will be fun in Total Mayhem
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>>182465606
ok we are sorry nerf bastion incoming t. jeff
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>>182461563
Now do one for females
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>>182465583
It's also the only way you can win on a fucking attack round
>They have mei/zarya constantly spamming cooldowns on the point/payload
>Just find somewhere high up and repeatedly hack them till your team can kill them
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>>182465017
I dont think you understand how fun constantly hacking Mercy and Tracer is
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I'm tired of shieldwatch. Why does every attack map have a chokepoint the size of a garage door?
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>>182465550
more like he cant look up since its easier to kill a mercy slowly flying above your head than a mercy hiding on the other side of the map behind her tanks
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>>182465753
because if they didn't shields would be irrelevant
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>>182463736
we must upboat m'lady who selflessy healed us!
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>>182465371
Im just saying (You) will kill yourself because you're a deviant fag thats all
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>>182465584
I just dont see it happening honestly, Im not saying it cant but chances of it happening is slim. I want it to happen, I want blizz to grow their balls and make it happen.... just maybe we aren't on the same page here
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>>182466000
>being this triggered.
you /pol/ fags just can't help yourself can you?
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>>182465097

>You can get kicked from the practice range for actively playing too long.

This happened to me the other day when practicing junkrat mine jumps.
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>>182466078
>but chances of it happening is slim
Based off of what we've heard from Chu and some bits and piece of Jeff. Not really. If anything, it's one of the most likely ones. It's up there with Gency.
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>>182465753
I wish they would fix the fucking layouts on Hanamura and Volskaya.
>durr there's a garage door choke, a tiny window only a few heroes can get to, and if you have someone who can fly you can get around the choke easily
It just encourages picking dive comp even more.
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>>182465728
thats p much the best way to win on attack if the other team is running mei/zarya

Sombra is best girl
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>182466083
>le pol boogyman

Sorry faggot, I'm just a normal, sane person.
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What about:

>McCree's Fan the Hammer now does extra damage against shields and barriers
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>>182466245
It would be a lot more pallateable if it didn't take every non-mobile hero 10 seconds to get to the only attacker highground
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>>182464162
I wouldn't say terrible, some are nice, but in most cases the original design is simply the best because it's what the character is meant to look like.

I'm a huge D.Vafag and want all her cosmetics but I use her standard skin because I feel like the girly pink is just such a huge part of her appeal. I'll use her other skins during specific events though or when they've just come out.
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>>182466283
>all gays should die
>im the sane one

xd
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>>182466331
why?
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>>182466083
They come to shit post about every mildly progressive lore update or when anything african or dark skinned is added to the game.

Then they stay here and pretend they own the place jumping out to bitch whenever they are triggered enough. /pol/ is a plague and always has been.
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>>182466276
sounds like bullshit since everyone in the top 500 is a tracer or genji main
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Reminder that smurfs in quickplay aren't a problem because quickplay MMR adjusts within like 20 games
If you complain about smurfs in quickplay you're just looking for excuses
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>>182466276
I wonder what causes that sudden rise of winston between gold and platinum
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>>182466412
no in the higher brackets you can get several mercy mains in one team an then it becomes a problem
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>>182466276
other images show it better than this one, but does anyone know why Zarya is popular from like gold to diamond but absent at low and high ranks?
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>>182466357
I didn't say all gays should die, but the world would be better of without your ilk. And yes, you will take care of it yourself because you know you are a defective.
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>>182466412
>top 500

Exactly. 500 people each server.
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>>182466083

not the guy you were replying to but all I have to say is get fucked bug hunter.
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>>182447626
>liking kangfist
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>>182466370
Wrecking that Winston bubble and protecting the backline.

Soldier is a way better character at taking out the Rein shield too.
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>>182466276
>roadhog is most or second most popular tank despite seeing no pro play
>nerfed into the ground
>mercy is the most popular character in the game by far at every rank
>no nerfs

At least jeff's wife is happy.
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>>182464821
I sincerely don't care if he's in or out of meta. Just fucking delete him from existence
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>>182466331
Probably a good change, but mcree is already pretty good against shields and bastion was designed for the sole purpose of being a shield destroyer so (even though he failed) it would completely outclass him - hence I doubt they'd make that change
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>>182463863
I sincerely think torbjorn is too strong or a hero
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>>182463736
I always appreciate a Mercy! Always!
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>>182466570
She's getting her nerf worry not shitter.
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>>182466552
Doomfist is better on that. You just punch the monkey out of his safespace, then your team eats him alive, and the braindead ape can do literally nothing to prevent that
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>>182466357
what's the problem with that?
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>>182462214
That video proves that roadhog players are actually retarded.
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Is there a hero that's good on every team and in every situation?
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>>182466683
So does Jeff, he said torbs winrate was way too high in one of his forum posts, but because he is severly underplayed they won't change him
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>>182466794
Lucio
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>>182465174
this
bastion will never be meta because people literally cannot deal with a counter to a character not being running face first into them and killing them before they kill you
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>>182466239
>up there with Gency

thats pretty high up

still dont think it's gonna happen because nothing in canon currently points to them being romantically involved

Gency is being hinted at in a few (maybe one??) comic panel and some in game voice lines in PTR that never made it into the game (???)

Either way didnt blizz say they weren't into shipping and they wont ever canon heroes with one another
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>>182466851
Besides lucio
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>>182466887
mercy.
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>>182466478
She sucks at Dive because 0 mobility
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>>182466927
Besides lucio and mercy
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>>182466683
Hes like engineer from TF2.

Incredibly shitty against anyone who knows how to play, but OP against shitters who just walk into the turret's gun fire.
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>>182466870
>the genji fags who tarded out when bastion no longer isntakilled himself to deflect
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>>182466927
No
>>182466887
Tracer
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>>182466552
Sound like the job of a defense hero.
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>There are still people who defend Mercy, possibly the worst designed character ever in an FPS
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>>182466927
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>>182466880
The Valentine's voice lines made it into the game but it was for two days and only on Hanamura.
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>>182465097
>playing around with game settings
>must do so at lightning speeds or else get disconnected and lose said changes
They couldn't just make the time-out 5 minutes or something?
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>>182466952
mei.
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>Dva
>600 + (150) HP
>extremely mobile
>can block almost every ult

>Reinhardt
>500 HP
>one mobility skill that's more likely to get you killed
>some faggot throwing a flashbang at your shield stuns you (????)
>shield that slows you down and gets burned down in seconds and is useless alone

balanced
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>>182466724
>>182467046
If mercy actually gets nerfed it's going to be so, so, so fucking satisfying to see all the Season 4/5 GM mercy mains drop down to plat where they belong only now with incredibly inflated egos.
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>>182463863
comp overwatch is fun to watch

shrike ana is fugly
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>>182465050
only 1 of those is an unpopular opinion, the rest are just retarded thoughts
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>>182466797
No, I mean I think if the team actually builds around torb and shields his turret he's op. Like if your grab orisa and shield it. Then torb is free to run around and headshot people
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>>182467046
Her being "bad design" is subjective shit generally posted by faggots who suck streamer/ youtuber cock. Have a grand total of 2 hours on her before you try and shit talk
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>>182466880
>nothing in canon currently points to them being romantically involved

That's because their story hasn't been revealed yet. It's being held off, I assume because they want to save it for something special. Like a cinematic or a comic. Who knows. Regardless, it's the combination of contradiction and Chu saying there is romance between the big 3 which is why it's up there. That's just a rough overview and not the specifics but you get the point.
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>>182467273
thats because the turret is a severe counter to flankers and all heroes that can take it out from a distance arent very good at destroying shield let alone orisa's 8s cd one

not to mention at any attmepted push torb can molten core and halt it and then the next time you try to push he has ult again
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>>182467167
Diva can't block damage consistently, only the "important" bursts of it. But I do agree, for supposed "team player" she's too fucking good on her own
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>>182463863
Junkrats scarecrow skin is good
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>>182467273
Torb is absolutely unable to win 1v1 against McCree/S76 past 10 metres because of this huge critbox.
And shielding the turret is probably good against 5 DPS comps but useless against any comp with tanks.
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sort of want
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>>182467531
>Chu saying there is romance between the big 3
Sauce??

I want to see this with my own eyes

iwanttobelieve.jpg
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>caring about the "plot" in a multiplayer shooter developed by Activision

You must have got lost on the way to r*ddit
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>>182466880
>Either way didnt blizz say they weren't into shipping and they wont ever canon heroes with one another

They never said that. Jeff didn't say they weren't going to crush fan theories he just said he wants lore updates to be stupidly slow so those theories don't get crushed "too fast"
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>>182467167
>thinking defense matrix and rein shield are similar enough to be a valuable comparison
>thinking defense matrix is better when this comparison is made

dva's is thinner, time-based as opposed to damage-based (which isnt inherently better), and can block ults at max time. rein's is much wider, has 2000 HP at full, can also block almost every ult, and is on no cooldown unless it's completely run out. rein pushes, dva dives.
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>>182467276
What's so well designed about a character that even a toddler can play decently? And on that character we have possibly the strongest ultimate in the game, huh? That charges the fastest out of all ultimates? Well, that's just brilliant design, I think they should give genji autoaiming surikens, because his ult doesn't charge fast enough! What about boosting lucio chargerate by like 50%? Would it be fun to constantly be breaking barriers instead of actual health?
Well, IT'S NOT FUCKING FUN to have four to five people come back from the dead faster than you can say "balanced'.
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>>182467793
What's wrong with normal sized action figures, I don't want any chibii style figures. The only thing that's worse are those funco pop figures they just look ugly as sin. But people baught them like crazy for some reason.
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>>182467249
those are all opinions you dumbass
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>>182445151


>Defending the payload:

> I stay alive
>We stop multiple enemy pushes
>I die
>The payload moves 15 miles
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>DoomFist can finally make his big return to Talon.
>The old base is now being used as an exercise lodge for senior citizens.
>The new base is a one room apartment that Widow, Reaper, and Sombra can barely make rent for.
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>>182467838
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1024266/Thinking-Globally-Building-the-Optimistic

In this video. I forget where. Somewhere in the middle. Jump around until you see the big 3 pictured on the screen. That's where he talks about them solely for a few minutes. He said their relationship, together, is not driven only by romance and he also listed a few other things their dynamic depends on. Evidently, its all about how all 3 of them interpret events differently.
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>>182466952
76
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>stop playing OW
>play Killing Floor 2 instead
>frustation severely decreases, fun drastically increases

I forced myself to farm lootboxes in the arcade for 2 weeks, not anymore.
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>>182467990
Mercy has counters. Learn them or stop crying. Genji/Tracer/Winston make her miserable if you arent trash and force her into wasting ultimates.

Again, you are just trash and posting your OPINION about Mercy.
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>>182459103
No it's not. That's incorrect deustch. It's "Die wunder auf modern medizin" - The wonder of modern medicine. What that post says is "The wonder the modernern medicine.
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>>182468071
I know the funkos are fucking disgusting, but they're cheap and lolsonerdy faggots can show off their pop culture credentials
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>>182468242
Lmao, I've already quit when lunar colony came out on the PTR. I can't stand the game anymore but it's still fun to shitpost here.
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>>182467793
I wasn't going to buy Mercy but after knowing she's got her healing beam I really want to recreate this picture with my Tracey.
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>>182468306
>He doesnt know genitive case
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>>182468350
Yeah but why not buy a poster.
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>mfw made it to diomend first time in my life
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>>182465174
ironclad update was a stealth nerf by blizzjews to stop shitters complaining about bastion once and for all
they shat all over his miniguns range and damage so he was easier to deal with while giving quality of life changes like moving while healing and damage resistance to make it seem like it was a sweet deal for bastion players to keep them quiet
when they realised they accidentally made him viable they backed the fuck out ASAP
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>>182467854
Why can't people enjoy an element of something that isn't the most important part?

I like Overwatch for its gameplay primarily but I also really like its characters and designs and am interested in the setting and story.

Also D.Va comic/short when. Also set her voice actress up with facerig and have her do some game streams.
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>>182468294

how do you counter an ability that has 0 windup time and makes the user invincible in the middle of a giant team fight while being attacked from every direction
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>>182468242
Yo, my man. I'm currently playing both. I honestly feel like OW is pretty shit but I can still have fun as long as I don't care. It's very frustrating though switching between them because it's more obvious how slow OW is and also how much it limits what you can do with your character.
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>tfw need to get as much Overwatch as possible this week before Splatoon 2 consumes my life
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>>182468710
based pedo
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>>182468710
Wow Overwatch and Splatoon, you have an awful taste in video games my friend.
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>>182468710
Stop reminding me I don't have a switch. Shit is sold out everywhere.
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>>182467276
>Her being "bad design" is subjective shit generally posted by faggots who suck streamer/ youtuber cock. Have a grand total of 2 hours on her before you try and shit talk

So how is she not badly designed? You think only streamer fanboys can dislike a character who

1) Is possibly the most centralizing character in the game in every game she's in
2) At the same time is also the easiest character in the entire game to play
3) Has an invincible ult that rezzes her whole team so there's no counterplay
4) Can hit LShift anytime to fly to any ally so she doesn't have to position and can't be punished for being out of position
5) Has no reason to aim or even look in the direction of the enemy, in an FPS
6) The ult charges in 40 seconds, making it one of the fastest ults in the game when she is the least engaged character
7) CAN FLY TO DEAD PEOPLE
8) Regenerates her own HP after 1 second
9) On top of this, is the easiest character to climb with


They made a character who literally plays a different game from everybody else. She doesn't shoot in an FPS, she doesn't have to manage a cooldown over 2 seconds, she climbs higher than other characters while doing less. If you make it past her tanks and DPS and she can't fly away you have to kill her in 1 second or she'll regenerate or she can just ult and become invincible and rez the whole team around you. Mercy is braindead.

This character is so badly designed that there are women in Masters with 40% winrates who play Mercy and are literally incapable of using another character. That's how big of crutch Mercy is and why she needs her fucking arms and legs cut off.

I can already see the "arguments."

>hurrr just shoot her hurrrr

Mercy is far more annoying than other healers with no skill requirement, able to fly away near-indefinitely and regenerate her own health

>she's actually hard to play you have to use positioning and gamesense

Every other character does that on top of having to aim and manage CDs.
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>>182468138
>big 3
>not only driven by romance

what did chu mean by this???
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>>182468306
Learn your grammar: In German, something that is "of" something else (meaning that it belongs to it) is achieved by the genitive case, sometimes the pronoun 'von' (auf means on). In the genitive, die becomes der and der/das become des and add an -s to the end of the word they modify (unless it's one syllable, in which case you add an -es).
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>>182467276
>>182467990
Not him, but I don't watch streams and I think Mercy is very poorly designed.

A character like mercy should not be viable at the highest level of play. She's extremely easy to play competently, has an extremely low skill ceiling, and is way too effective for how little effort is required for playing her.

Easy to play/easy to master characters have to exist, but they should start to drop off in usage at higher levels where they begin to be outclassed by better players using high skill ceiling characters to their maximum potential. If they aren't, what's the point in bothering putting in the time to get good with those characters. This is a problem Overwatch has always had in my opinion, but Mercy is the epitome of this.

Second, she's just fucking cancer. Having a Mercy on your team and playing against a Mercy are both fucking miserable for everyone but the Mercy player. Playing against Mercy is the most frustrating thing in this game by far. If you aren't the one playing tracer/genji, you just have to hope your teammate is competent enough to play/win mercy's rng hide-and-seek minigame or anything you try to do to carry is basically nullified with a button press. That's if you're lucky enough to not be playing on 2cp/gibraltar, where there's basically no counterplay since Mercy can just res from spawn.

It also almost feels like having a Mercy on your team is more demanding of her teammates than it actually is of her. You're the one positioning for her, giving her sightlines to fly to, you're the one protecting her, she's just hold LMB while you play the game for her. You're the one fighting/dying on point without heals, making sure you're within 15m of your teammate while she jacks off in a corner waiting to hit Q.

Fuck Mercy, just gut her already.
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>>182468864
That there is romance but its not the only factor. He also said friendship as well.

The most curious thing to me is that he didn't mention anything about betrayal being a factor in their dynamic.
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>>182468537
Posters generally look nasty in a room, they need to be framed and set well kr they're garbage and most posters aren't worth that unless it's signed. A dumb starue can be put on a shelf or a desk with no further needs. It's secular and tasteful even if the design of the object itself is shit.
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How is Soldier the COD hero when Widowmaker exists?

>Aim down sights
>Infinite range hitscan with 1-2 shots to kill
>SMG with fixed spread (hipfire in COD is always inaccurate)
>Mine that's like a shitty claymore
>Lone wolf playstyle with absolutely no teamplay
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>>182468660
You kill her. Oh wait you're a goldshitter who wants the game to play itself and doesn't bother to learn flankers.

A good flanker kills her or forces an early rez. A poor one cries for Mercy nerfs
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>>182468294
Yes, this is my opinion, but it's based on facts. Res has literally zero counters, that's a fact.
Res charges faster than any other ultimate in the game, that is a fact.
Mercy is the easiest character to play in this game for anyone, that is a fact aswell.
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Mercy has too much impact for the amount of effort a player has to put in.
Literally +1 second to GA cooldown and a short ramp up in healing speed on connection will bring her down to normal levels
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Holy fucking shit just what caliber of incompetence do you have to be in order to not follow up on a quadruple kill holy fuck I'm mad.
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>>182467276
Look, roasty toasty is mad
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>>182468840
>>182468958
Yawn, not reading all that shit. Already read all these opinions regurgitated straight from le ebin pro streamers many times. You're bad and you deserve your misfortune
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>>182469048

Widow requires aiming and positioning. Neither things soldier requires
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>moonbase attack
>be Rien
>spam group up before match starts because map is ten miles wide and we will get raped if we all split up
>Match starts
>3/4 team goes in eight diff directions
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>>182469125
Yo buddy Sombra came out a few months and has a faster ult charge by a long shot. And she might be easy to play but that will never guarantee a win.
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>>182469067
>J-just know where mercy is at all times bro, easy!
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>>182469394
Play Winston or d.va instead of a throw character like rein
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>>182467793
we need a pharah one so we could do have a pharmercy on our shelves
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i still like playing hog. putting dva in the middle of your team is so good in my shitter rank
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>>182468109
what show is this? sounds good
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>>182469048
You can basically shut your mind off when playing Easy76. Widow can't afford to make any mistakes.
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>>182469462
If you're not trash it's fairly easy to keep track of her during a fight.

But here we are in a general populated by garbage rebbitors struggling in gold and it's all the game's fault
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>>182469270
>no counterarguments
>lul ur just bad xd
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>>182468242
>KF2
Yeah i've realized how so much less stressful other multiplayer games are in contrast to OW
how you enjoying the zed carnival lad?
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>>182469125
What's also a fact is everyone was saying she is underpowered about a month ago.

>>182469474
Same with Rein. Everyone said he needed a nerf about a month ago. They didn't even buff his counters.

It's almost like you people don't know what you want.
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>>182469040
>worth that unless it's signed
That's bullshit

Anyways I'd rather have a framed high qualtiy print in my room than some shitty plastic figure that doesn't even have a mouth and two black holes for eyes.
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>>182468971
well anon I hope I was wrong about blizz not having balls n R76 becomes canon
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>Go straight for Mercy as D.Va, pushing her around a corner so she can't fly away and kill her
>no one on her team even attempts to peel me off
>decide fuck it, keep doing it repeatedly, just gunning straight for Mercy while my team cleans up her team that's getting very little heals
>after a while don't even see Mercy anymore
>[match chat]: gg our mercy is afking cause she sucks
>[match chat](mercy): i gave up my team won't protect me at all
>mfw
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How do I git gud at gengu? I feel like there are times where he just clicks and I murder people with dragon blade and get the reflects just right. And there are other times where I feel like I'm flailing around and just dying uselessly
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>>182469443
a faster ult charge thats worth nothing if your team doesnt follow up

not to mention 90% of games people dont use hacked health packs
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>>182469691

Why are you unable to comprehend that a character can be beatable but still stupid and unfun?
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>>182469079
>>182469079
>>182469079
Migratw whenever
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>>182469354
>Aim
>Click heads
>If you miss, try again instantly

>Positioning
>Stand back far away from action
>Use grappling hook to lauch youre self 50m in the air

Wow, so hard
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>>182469812
I ain't answerin' for "everybody", only myself.
>>182469443
Maybe, I doubt it though. Even then, it requires a little strategy, your team must use healthpacks to boost you.
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>>182469067
>>182469691
>just kill her
Oh yeah, that's why there are no mercy mains in GM, everyone is just too bad to kill her. It's not like she can do her job from highground/behind walls, can instantly dash across the map with no cooldown, a tiny hitbox that gets distorted when she does so, and near instantly regenerating health. Not to mention that she can just hide in an out of the way room or her fucking spawn, meaning there's basically nothing you can do to stop the res.

Plus if the Mercy fucks up so extremely hard that you're actually going to kill her, she can just fly to a dead teammate, res early, and still get an immense amount of value despite being a complete drooling retard.

>>182469270
>I have no arguments so I'm not going to respond
>>182469812
Literally don't remember anyone ever calling for rein nerfs.

Mercy was also buffed extremely hard, the res/regen buffs were huge.

Ana also got nerfed pretty bad, and is extremely hard to play in the current meta while literally anyone can get to GM playing Mercy.
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>>182469754
Correct
>>182469950
Evidently /owg/ cannot beat her because you cry like little faggots day after day about how you can't. Bad
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>>182470002
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>>182469474

>Rien is now a throw character


Fuck Blizzard in the ass with a bat full of nails.
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>>182470002
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>>182470036
>try again instantly
You've never played Widow have you?
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>>182470002
Nice try faggot
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>>182470002
Reported stupid retard
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>>182470002
Shit, I got baited
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>>182470279
You aren't playing OW right now, you can act like a normal human now. I belive in you!
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>>182469848
That poor Mercy..
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>>182470036

You literally just described soldier gameplay but with grappling hook instead of sprint. And soldier doesnt have to click heads, just hold m1 on their centre of mass
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>>182470110
Thanks for confirming that your posts hold no value
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>>182470064
Right, but I'm saying you people wanted mercy buffs. You people were saying how she is a throw character. And don't pretend people weren't asking for rein buffs.
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There are literal 10 year olds screaming at me in competitive
what the fuck is this
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>play genji
>Nigger jumps on me with his tazer
>Pump his fat head full of shuriken until he dies
>Keeps trying
>I keel killing him
>Mfw he switches to zarya out of frustration
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>No freaky talon-aligned healer

I want it, do you want it?
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>>182466350
Why do you use the golden guns, then? They mesh so badly with the default skin.
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>>182469848
poor mercy
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>>182470481
summer holidays I assume
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>when you get 4 HS in a row as baby D.va
maybe I should start playing Hanzo or something instead
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>>182470468
Rein nerfs*
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182470437
There is no value in reading the complaints of bad players. I'll keep my (You)
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>>182470548
>things that never happened for 500
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>>182470579
great i hate summers now
>>
>>182470481
An okay game with an awful community.
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>>182468138
Found the bit with the "big 3" and he doesn't say romance. He says relationships, but that doesn't mean romance.
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>>182470468
The game was so much fun when mercy was bad. Kills felt satisfying. Positioning mattered, you could actually carry.
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>>182470481
>what the fuck is this
Gold, it's a terrible place. It was even worse when I was in silver.
>OMG GET OFF [X HERO] IM BETTER AT THEM
>do it just for shiggles, cause I figure I probably won't win either way with a literal child on my team
>they do considerably worse and we lose
>I sarcastically say "DONT WORRY GUYS WE GOT A PRO [X HERO] ON OUR TEAM WE AREN'T GONNA LOSE"
>10 year old has left the game.
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>>182469848
>b Dva
>enemy team OT on payload
>bully enemy team mercy off their Dva
>kill mercy
>DM enemy Dva
>spam LOL voice line
>Victory

feels good to be a gangsta
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>>182470637
You've never seen a good genji have you? Though I guess it's probably a really rare sight in bronze
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>>182470696
>but that doesn't mean romance
Yes he does. He specifically said it. Go listen again.
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Anyone else depressed? I really want to like this game but there's just no reason to anymore.
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>>182470468
It's almost like this board is made up of different people.

Mercy SHOULD be trash tier at higher levels. Like absolute dog-shit, 0% winrate, picking her is justification for a ban tier.

She should be the character you show your girlfriend who you want to play the game, only for her to have fun pocketing him in gold.

The fact that so many trash players are in GM this season playing her is a complete failure of balance and design.
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>have more than enough coins to buy what i want and still have enough for future events
>trying to hold off until the loot box update hits
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>>182470696
He says romance m8
Right at the end. Last thing he says about them.
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>>182470591
Baby D.Va is unironically fun to play as.
>enemy team starts focusing me cause OMG DVA IS SO OP WE GOTTA KILL HER FIRST
>fly upwards out of my mech
>kill one of their dps and one of their supports as I land just from spamming shots at them
>start jumping around like a spastic retard spamming gunshots in the enemy's general direction while also spamming ADADADAD
>get another kill
>get my mech back in 5 seconds
>go back to bullying their team

It's fucking hilarious watching them all converge on me and then start backpedaling when me and my team start killing them off and I get my mech back almost instantly.
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>>182470862
>Good Genji going against a Good Winston
>Genji ever winning
Sounds like you need to get out of Silver if you think the competition there is "good"
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>>182470879
Quit the game, easy as that, you aren't the only one who feels that way.
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>>182470736
It doesn't get any better in diamond either
https://youtu.be/B4hwxTCxXq4
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>>182470736
>bullying literal children in a video game
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>>182471035
>He thinks Winston actually counters genji
Gold detected
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>>182470964
I see a lot of opinions here. I feel as if the gold part is projection as well. It's ok, keep swinging away
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>>182471056
Why do you post your video every day at every chance you get?
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>>182470064

>Complaining that someine on the other team is too strong.

Stay bad mate.

Just focus her and if you arent ready to snatch the life right back out of the hero that just got rezzed its your own damned fault because THEY ARE LITERALLY STANDING STILL RIGHT THERE NOT MOVING AT ALL AND FUCKING GLOWING.
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>>182471218
Because its really really funny and also not my video
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>>182471050
But I don't want to. I really do like the game but what's the point if everyone else hates it?
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>>182471163
If you aren't bullying the spastic children away from comp, then they'll just keep shitting up games. I'm just doing my part to clean up the OW comp community.
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>Hey Hanzo, we need a hitscan
>Hanzo pls go hitscan
>Hanzo please
>Switches at the last 10 seconds
>I switched what are you all bitching about?
Hanzo players are waste.
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>>182465302
The most balanced the game has been
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>>182471217
Are you retarded? Wasn't saying you're in gold, was saying that low-skill heroes like Mercy should only be viable in gold. The fact that there are more Mercy mains in GM/Masters than Ana/Lucio mains is a fucking travesty.
>>
>>182470064
>Literally don't remember anyone ever calling for rein nerfs.
Seriously? I remember all the idiots shouting about he was 100% needed to advance or do anything and that he was bad game design. Then Road got nerfed and now he's a throw character because dive is meta.
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>>182471375
>harassing someone to switch because hero is le bad
you're the reddit
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>there are adults below diamond
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Any PS4 EU player here who wants to carry me? My team always get destroyed so I can't climb by myself.
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>>182470736
>>182471163
I hope he made the kid cry
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>>182471614
Post you'are rank
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I've just started onetricking Bastion because some retard always instalocks Soldier and then they flail around all match unable to shoot down Pharah.
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>>182471614
I keep getting grouped with meme tier children who can't use team comp or squeak into the voice chat about they want to play gengi.
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>>182471357
You, my friend, make no sense.
Just take a break from the game then, play something else, watch a few shows, read a book etc. and if you truly miss the game after the break go play it again with new found vigour.
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>>182471501
I know what you said, the rhetorical question is are you retarded?
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>>182471614
>place plat
>bruh ur fkin plat
>force myself into diamond
>bruh ur fkin diamond
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Would you play a Doomfist surf map?
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>>182471696
I don't even get how the little kids get up to high gold even.
>some 13 year old squeaking into the mic about who they should play
>they decide on Ana
>we all agree to group up and go to the right to the point
>he goes left alone for some reason and dies instantly
>(high pitched cracky voice)WOW THANKS FOR LETTING ME DIE TEAM
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>>182471003
Yeah, you're right, I must've misheard.
Even so, I don't think he was implying any kind of romance between the "big 3".

>>182470869
While yes, I was wrong, I feel like you're being a tad more aggressive than required.
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>>182471843
I could just play CS:S or Gmod for that
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>>182471589
If the kid can't get kills then he's more a waste than you.
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>>182470481
Mute them all
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>>182471007

>Baby D.Va is unironically fun to play as

>Hanamura attack point A
>Fly in to point
>Self destruct
>blast kills one
>pop out spamming non stop as baby D'
>Survivors are all low
>..1...2...3.....TRIPLE.. KILL

Her pistol is actually much better than her mech primary and it feels so fucking good to shoot.
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>>182471896
>not necessarily only driven by romance
>with emphasis on only

He was also reading that from a script he wrote out for himself. Pretty sure that's what he's implying.
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>>182471614
anyone else /reachhighrank/ in solo queue with no fucking aim and mediocre game sense?

this game is easy as shit i'm master rank playing all the no aim characters, you could unironically reach masters just doing torbjorn/ winston.
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>7 teams
>no hype for the league anyway

What was Blizzard thinking?
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>>182468109
I'd watch it
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>>182471375
Dont bully Hanzbros
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>>182471831
>playing QP
>be D.Va
>rest of team is Zarya/Ana/3x DPS
>Ana healing me plenty, I stick with her
>DPS all fuck off to their own world like all DPS players do
>Zarya doesn't stick with us but she's at least around more than the DPS
>suddenly the Zarya complains about Ana not healing
>eventually tells Ana to DPS instead
>tell them Ana is healing fine and the issue is no one is grouping up
>"hurr shut up plat"
I don't follow
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>>182471614
I fell to 2.7 last season, calibrated at 2.5 and i honestly don't want to play this game anymore.
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>Roadhog literally delet DF and a good part of the cast in 1vs1 like before
>They are still complaining
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>everyone in the voice chat
>nobody talking
>say hello to everyone
>no answer
>nobody talks during the match
>when we lose some guy opens his mic and screams "you fucking suck you fucking cunt go fuck yourself and never play this game again"
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>someone makes a post making fun of people below [insert rank here]
>tell them to post proof that they're above that rank
>no response
Literally every single time. Reminder all "durr ur gold/silver/bronze/plat/below diamond/below gm" posters are cowards who won't post their own rank
>>
>>182472226
It's not bullying if they are shit and are causing me to lose in comp.
>>
>>182471375

>Hanzo player
>ever switching


Cool story bro
>>
>>182472210
That's because the only relevant event is the world cup because what ever the pros are going to play is going to infulence the meta.
All the other events unimportant.
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>>182472367
At this point I'm tired of giving the obligatory "HI TEAM" response. I only talk when necessary to callout flankers and etc.
But those people who stay quiet all game long then go into a shit talking frenzy at the end of the game need to kill themselves.
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>>182472078
Eh, I feel he was more cementing the fact that it's not solely romance that affects the relationships of the characters in the game.
That being said, that's just my interpretation based on what I listened to.
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>%supportname% takes skill
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>>182472395
You can fake it
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>people still make wars when shooting games exist
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>>182472564
Stop tracerposting if you're just gonna mock others, thanks.
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>%dpsname% takes skill
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>>182472367
>in 3 stack
>talking to team the whole time
>pointing out enemy when we see them
>one guy sees a soldier shooting us from behind
>"SHOOT THIS FUCKING SOLDIER BEHIND US HES JUST PICKING US OFF"
>mfw only using mic to yell like an autis
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>>182472727
wars being fought through fps games sounds like a manga waiting to happen
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>%overwatchheroname% takes skill
>>
>>182470554
Maybe we could get a freaky omnic like Knockout
>>
>>182472516
You are your only constant, amigo
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>>182472395
t. bronzebro
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%overwatch% takes skill
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>>182472395
t. bronze shitter
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>>182472245
Seriously, i know i didn't get worse since last season, better if anything, so how the fuck do i just go and fall a whole league down?
I think it might be because i main dps and most of plat instalocks 4 dps too, but this is fucking awful. Why can't blizzard add more tank/support heroes so we can have at least some chances of having decent team compositions?
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>______ takes skill
>>
why the fuck do niggers come to comp games just to throw? do they really have so much time they can spend it throwing games? fucking sucks to see that my team is not even trying to win and have to wait 10-15 minutes to get to next game
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>%life% takes skill
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>>182472210
APEX has been very enjoyable to watch but next season onwards they aren't inviting western teams anymore so I'm not that interested.

I'll try to follow OWL but everyone thinks it's going to fail so we'll have to see.
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>>182472912
1 vs 6 doesn't win.

Enjoy bronze
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>shitposting in /owg/ takes skill
>>
>>182472564
zen is the only support that takes skill and dont let other other supportmain trick you into lumping in their ez mode free carry with him
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>>182472564
ana maybe

>>182472772
mei, genji, and tracer maybe

at least as far as overwatch skill goes
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%appdata% takes skill
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>%hitscan% takes skill
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>>182472545

>But those people who stay quiet all game long then go into a shit talking frenzy at the end of the game need to kill themselves

That was me.

I tried staying quiet for a change but it just made things worse.

I just talk about the game at hand. No "hello".....no "anybody got a mic?" I hate small talk and could give zero fucks about any details of your life.

Just group up when its time and tell me where the enemy is.
>>
>>182473046
Maybe you were calibrated too high to begin with, ever think of that?

But honestly, the whole ranking system is a joke. And there's not even any indication that they are going to improve it, so fuck everything.
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>play in EU
>barely anyone talks
>including me who has mic on mute all the time
>>
>>182473494
>Breathing at a constant rate takes skill

did you just check your breathing rate Anon?
>>
HEY GUYS. NEW THREAD.
>>182473931

>>182473931

>>182473931
>>
>>182472560
Before mentioning the big 3 he was saying that all characters do not depend on romance as their connection to other characters. He also said this isn't the case for all heroes.
>>
>>182473989
>early
kys yourself
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>>182452725
What did you get on the SAT friend :)
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>>182473132
They're not inviting west because Korea asked permission to host more tournaments and Blizzard literally told them to fuck off since they have OGN and the best players.
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>>182473896
>play on EU
>talk occasionally
>get called out a finn every time
Tuntuu pahalta, miehet.
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>>182474061
haha nice joke haha
>>
>>182474130
That's because you can instantly spot a Finbro by is accent.
Same for me because I'm german
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>>182474336
Some people have distinct accents, that's true. But it just feels bad that people mention it to me pretty much every evening, when I play comp.
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>playing anubis
>whipe the enemy team
>mercy respawns and presses q
>lose point
>whipe the enemy team again
>mercy respawns and presses q
>lose point again
>whipe the enemy team for a third time
>mercy respawns and presses q
>lose game
>>
>>182462139
you serious m8? tracers the hardest carry in the game
>>
>>182474932
Why didn't you just kill her anon? Gold shitter can't handle that a gurl is better than you at a videogame.
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>>182473896
>Play in EU
>French dude, Two Spanish (?) speaking people, a Kraut as well as some quite young Swedish/Belgian sounding kid who barely talked
>All aware we speak different languages
>GCSE french finally comes into play
>Start shit talking
>Everyone starts screaming abuse at each other in different languages
>Feel like I'm in the immigration office, minus the (((Asians)))
>Shits pretty funny tbqhfamalam
>Win the Offence on Volkswagen

>Defence time
>The Kraut picks Hanzo
>'Ich bin gut mit Hanzo'
>Autistic screeching
>He switches to Tracer

>End of the match, we actually won it with absolutely no intelligible team comms whatsoever
>Everybody quietly goes 'ehh GG' as we leave

Its rare on EU, but when it happened it was golden. Also I think I learned a new Spanish slur whilst I was at it, so yeah Carajo
tu mismo? Something like that
>>
>>182474185
that's my whole life in general, taking a back seat to more talented people

it sucks but i just play ranked for bragging rights anyway, then just meme in qp with mei and genji while i practice my aim for my own fun
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>>182475404
It's difficult to kill someone when she first walks out of spawn.
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>>182474998
desu it's hard to carry a team when they're afraid to push even when you just got three picks. Sometimes your team is just uncarriable.
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