/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist, Payday 2, and Payday: Crime War General

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>he doesn't have Criminal Intent set as his main menu song

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Friendly reminder game isn't going to die until Oct. 2018

>>182332350
ovk are gone for summer vacation so it will be dead for another month or so

>>182333423
Post more

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>>182330962
So how exactly does one know if a multiplayer game in loud/stealth missions is either loud or stealth? You couldn't name rooms last I checked. Do they expect people to enter a room and ask every single time?

Also how do I make this game not run like absolute garbage?

what do we get trashly for its birthday?

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>>182334881
Now set it as your profile pic and ERP with me

just let it fucking die

>>182334507
The host can select loud or stealth when they pick the job, and it appears as a little logo next to their name on the crimenet screen. If they haven't done that, you should ask and they can't blame you for asking.

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>>182335160
>ERP
Sorry, I'm gay.

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>>182332324
Quality OP!

No 9/11 achievement?

Maxing all weapon skills and using an LMG is the most fun thing I've ever done in payday

>>182339884
How? There are no flyable planes in the game.

>>182340994
>While wearing the "43rd" mask, place c4 50 times

https://pastebin.com/wc3AgvhV

>>182342338
What is the codegiver trigger word

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>>182341383
>BUT C4 CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!

>>182342704
Everytime i see/remember Alex Jones exists as a person, i wonder if he's just being ironic all the time.

>>182343552
Probably more like a real life narcissist who can alter reality in their mind at the drop of a hat.

It's like, that kid in school who bullshitted about their dad working at Nintendo so they know that you can catch Pikablu at Bill's House if you walk over with one of every Eeveelution and they insist it's true until you point out they're full of shit on both counts, and then suddenly they start backpedaling or screaming that they're not lying but if go to the ends of the earth to prove them wrong, it's just a prank bro what an autist, who takes this stuff seriously.

Except he's a rich and influential loudmouth with a microphone and a large following and not some 8yo on the playground and we never got past the screaming stage.

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Okay it's bedtime for EU. Somebody cook the next meth batch. Good night.

>>182344107
I find it hard to accept there are people this stupid in the world without them being ironic about it.
>>182344820
4PM in EU
>Bedtime

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>>182260179
What's good, heister? New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Earn Some Pocket Money (earn_250k_cash)
- I Knew What I Did Was Wrong (i_knew_what_i_was_doing_was_wrong)

And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- Artsy Fartsy (daily_art)
Brought to you by Houston.

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>182344820
Meth batch complete.

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>>182346383
It was 2stronk, putting the team down

ded

I haven't played since why/memefest, convince me to come back.

>be bain
>organize a gang of renowned criminals, heisters, and syndey
>run crimenet and handle hacking and monitoring the cops planning their assaults
>can not figure out how to cook meth to save his life

>>182348301
stay the fuck away and save yourself from this hell

why do they go to the crack shack and cook meth there where bain has to contact psychics to figure out the formula that changes on the fly and not the hotel in hotline miami where theres a fucking formula on the walls and much more space for the heisters to hold out in
why dont they just make a meth lab in the safe house, surely they can afford it

white house job when

>>182348301
It's one of the comfier coopfps's :3

Would Sydney be better without those sideburns or still just as bad?

>>182351596
It would be a slight improvement, but she'd still be a dyke with a shitty punk haircut.

any news on pd3
why are the zeal snipers so goddamn OP
what do you call it when two players pick the same item at the same time

>>182352345
Nothing
Because zeals+snipers=stronk
Duping

>>182348301
go away you're not special

>>182352765
what do you call when a player picks up two items at the same time

>>182353092
If you mean spamming F at, for example, meth ingredients so two of the same disappear with only one appearing in the inventory, I call that bugging, but AFAIK there's no "officially" settled term for it.

>black heister
>chains

>>182353092
>>182353554
duping for keycards

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>Only black heister
>Chains

You cant make this shit up

>>182354009
>>182355598
how to spot reddit

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>australian heister
>sydney

>texan heister
>dallas

>younger brother of texan heister
>houston

>irish heister
>clover

>heister wearing a jacket
>jacket

WHOA RACISM MUCH??

>>182357001
>>texan heister
>>dallas
except dallas is from chicago, you pleb

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Would you a RPG Dozer?

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>>182357330
What?

My whole life is a lie.

>>182357001
>>182357794
>be criminal
>name yourself after the city you hail from

Are you fucking retarded?

>>182348729
>why don't they cook meth in the safe house

it's called "not shitting where you eat"

is there a real point to going infamous
after the first time i find myself wanting to stay at I-100

>>182361434
V-100 has tangible benefits if you get the original 5 infamies that lower skill point requirement costs to move up tiers.

>>182357547
already am

>>182361434
>reach level 100
>grind Crime Spree until you have enough EXP to take you from 0 to 100, but don't redeem it
>go infamous
>redeem crime spree
>go from 0 to 100 instantly

Tjere's not really any reason not to go infamous at this point.

>>182362923
4th.
Thanks faggot.

>>182357001
>>182357330
>American heister
>mask has an American flag on it

>>182362923
third
thanks

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>>182362923
Got 2nd, you are the best tranny thank you.

captcha prestige code

>>182362923
first

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>>182362923
Thanks!

>>182348729
>in the safe house
Yeah, during the raid.

>host says loud
>wear suit
>get kicked
Thank Bain, I didn't wasted my time with this dumbass.

is body expertise still useful for LMGs?

>>182370365
yes, very.
use this for maximum fun http://pd2tools.com/l/2524f2961c8b30b59092c714389d1058

>install DLC unlocker
>game now crashes at the end of heist

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>can get Shadow Raid maybe once out of fifteen tries
>have never once bothered looking in the garage on the ground floor

What's the secret, /pdg/?

>>182373434
>cheat
>get fucked
>complain about it

>>182373813
The secret to what?
Here's a secret: you can crouch on the helipad around minute 5 on shadow raid to force the helicopter to bring a container instead of 2 guards.

>>182373850
>m-muh cheats
>give me shekels goy
fuck off almir

>>182367482
*didn't waste

>>182374991
ESL

>>182374315
the secret to not fucking up all the time

>>182375329
Don't open any doors besides security door and remember to bug the helipad to make sure no more guards spawn. You'll be able to bug out the guards in the warehouse so that they don't move. Easy to avoid them.

I don't get why Murky Station has to be a stealth-only mission.

>>182376872
Because fuck you.

>>182374789
>making money is bad
Fuck off poorfag

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>the game shipped with 4 difficulties, Normal to Overkill
>changing difficulty changes intensity of police assaults, damage received, and what type of enemies appear on what rates, blue SWAT on lower ones, Greens and Tans on higher ones
>the same type of generic cop performs the same in terms of health regardless of difficulty, ensuring consistency

>Update #24 introduces Death Wish, a new, higher difficulty with a different type of generic cop
>higher tier cops (tans and greys) have increased levels of health, though to a relatively reasonable degree (40 DMG two shots tans normally, 6 shots on DW), breakpoints easily reachable
>Game meta develops based on a few distinct guns that reach specific breakpoints, narrowing selection extremely in favour of efficiency

>Update #91 implements major weapon rebalances in order to flatten the meta and allow more weapons to be practical, balanced entirely on current damage values and breakpoints
>most weapons have ~40 damage due to this

>Update #109 introduces One Down and Mayhem
>Whole concept of consistent enemy health is thrown out of the window in favour of extreme health scaling up to 900% of standard
>extreme levels of bulletsponge to the point that jokers are much stronger than the average player with their damage output
>weapons remain balanced around the old meta of 40/80/120 damage
>meta gets dominated by DLC weapons, crossbows, DMRs and other extremely high damage weapons
>the meta rejection bin gets filled with even more weapons than ever before
>headshot multipliers on generic cops were streamlined to 2x though, so that's good

What the fuck?
Who thought this was a good idea?
The base gamemode seems so bland now and I pretty much enjoy Crime Spree a lot more over it at this point since enemy health scales rather "naturally" and it's bigger gimmick are the wacky modifiers like minigun or medic bulldozers.
Not even mentioning the fact that Mayhem is somehow harder than DW due to developer oversight.

>>182377649
>pay for something you don't need to pay for
>f-f-f-fucking p-poorfag
cuck

>>182379231
Me, now bend over bitch

>>182379231
I can't imagine playing this game with overkill as the highest difficulty, since overkill is basically the "medium" difficulty.

If the devs had an iota of programming ability, they would change higher difficulties from "bulletsponge lmao" to "enemies aren't completely braindead. Imagine if tasers and cloakers only tried to engage the players if they were capable of attempting a four man simultaneous disable, and if bulldozers always rushed in at least pairs with a medic behind them.

Is there a difference between the interceptors and the crosskills that I'm not seeing? And is there a reason why I would use anything other than one of those two for a gunslinger build?

>>182382848
3 less bullet per mag
1 less bullet in total ammo
2 more threat
0.1 faster second reload

All in all, it probably fall down to weapon mods, or simply A E S T H E T I C.

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fellow gamers

>>182389249
Nice Pay©Day® 2™ reference

Havn't played this game in over a year.
Last time I did, I uninstalled it because I was so sick of the major amount of crashes me and my friends experienced.

has it improved?

>>182362923
Ey Trashly baby, are you going on vacation, too?

>>182391509
uninstall mods

>>182392546
I didn't have a single mod installed for it, neither did my friends.

>>182348729
Meth puts of hella bad fumes while it's cooking. that shit gets into the walls and basically turns the place into a toxic hellhole. The hotel thing however, is legit.

>>182376872
Because the military response would be overwhelming now excuse me while I wage a four man campaign of war against a russian paramilitary group.

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>do death wish mallcrasher with XXV and VI guy
>go after safe with my lockpicking shit
>almost done lock picking when XXV guy goes down in the middle of the catwalk where the heli would land
>second guy goes after him while I just finish with the safe and get a big bag of cash
>ditch cash and try to save one of them
>can't while being shot by 20 cops plus snipers
>XXV guy says I fucking suck afterwards
>heli shows up min later and I barely make it out with cash bag on back
>he kicks me after match ends

Is there any real reason why someone whose played this game this much could get down in the worst possible spot he could've got downed in and then proceed get upset with me the I-87 guy who couldn't save him.

>>182398731
You fucking suck.

>>182397339
Only if you excuse me while i set up a base inside the FBI's headquarters.

Page 10 also weapon rebalance never

dead game

payday 2 crashes every time i enter crimenet from the main menu

i have no mods installed

>>182409347
try deleting your renderer_settings.xml

>>182398731
That guy was probably as new as you except he cheated his XXV-100. Don't feel bad.

>>182411379
>Cook Off
>Death Wish
>Join a XXV-100
>HELP GUYS I RAN OUT OF AMMO
>GUYS GO HELP HIM HE'S DOWN
>HELP ME I'M DOWN
>PLEASE SOMEBODY COOK (while I keep taking ingredients)

Less than 20 hours, he spent all the time crouching in the small room of the top floor giving orders.

>>182345190
>spend all day grinding Crime Sprees with bots
>check dailies
>still not done the $250k one
>try to find a pub for a quickie because tired of playing alone
>they're all 1-man loner lobbies or ODs with sub V-100s
Fuck, why is it so hard to make money these days?

>wolfhud crashing when you press tab in missions now

i needed a reason not to play.

>>182413828
>he can only play with cheats

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Is there a clientside mod to put gensec elites in overkill ?

Seeing the uniform missmatch of green and plywood make me sick for some reason.

>>182413853
>wolfhud is cheating

Bet you think using the bots is cheating too.

>>182414754
>invincible allies that will revive you over and over, that can hold off waves of cops on their own while you hide in a closet
>not cheating

>>182415026
i don't need the bots. The turrets break the AI into not entering or walking past checkpoints.

>>182415186
>he has to abuse glitches to complete a heist

>>182414718
pls respond

>>182414718
>>182416418
You could just play Mayhem.

Or play high level Crime Sprees that have the Elite modifier.

>>182417115
>You could just play Mayhem.

this
it's like babby's first deathwish but without the killdozers

>>182416152
>this game takes any amount of skill.

>>182391650
Nah, just gonna go out on the weekend.

>>182418439
>yet he still relies on exploits

>>182418656
That's good to hear. It'd be a shame if we'd lose our favorite cute little community manager for such a long time.
The general would actually not survive that.

How the fuck do I aim the castigos?
I have 100 accuracy and I put the enemy heads on the small red thingy yet the shot goes fuck elsewhere. Or is it a git gud thing?

>>182419419
Use the lasers to aim.

>>182419721
Castigos have no such mods.
I could switch to the Bronco for that though.

>>182419816
I got nothing then, you'll probably have to practice with other akimbos and try to extrapolate how to aim from that.

Could also try practicing in the Safehouse target range.

>>182420348
Well that's why I was asking, I can handle other akimbos and pistols just fine. But these ones though, it's like the bullet sometimes likes to deviate to one side.

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I finally get what the point of the extra helicopter fuel asset is for on Big Oil Day 2. Never saw this happen before on all my previous Doctor Miserable runs.

Also, it's pretty stupid.

>>182421869
Noob you asked in group chat before and I said it like 3 times

>>182421869
I'm doing that job too. One hour of waiting...

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>>182422309
You can do it man. Even if the refuel took me 10 minutes.

>>182422431
I just finished it.

1:03:03

>there are people that don't know the engine

>>182413853
how is wolfhud cheating?

>Come back after a few months
>Shitney is still in the game
lmao why

>>182424004
Mod to autokick shitney shitters when?

>>182424352
>make script to kick players that use a specific character
>get banned

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>>182380687
If you played before the DW update when Overkill was the highest difficulty, it was nothing like it is now. A lack of powercreep DLC made it like DW is now, a.k.a. challenging but not so for a Payday veteran. On top of that, enemies actually died when you shot them because they don't have 1k hp, which made it much more fun than the game is as of now.

Basically, the game is much less fun than it once was because Jules is fucking retarded, every veteran I know (a.k.a. people with 1.5k+ hours, not some 600 hour shitter who doesn't know any better than the current meta) absolutely hates the current balancing.

>>182424004
>>182424352
>>182425168
This already exists, though it's doesn't kick them but forces them on to another character, and it's also buggy and can force players to play another character even if you don't have that character disabled

For example, even if you set "force player to not play Sydney" to false only while you let every other player use other characters, it may still force them to switch from Jacket to Rust, for example, despite allowing Jacket in the configuration file.

Use this as you will

https://mega.nz/#F!AFJwibRD!d04EBdfiTSRgI7taPksrxw

>>182427417
>For example, even if you set "force player to not play Sydney" to true only*

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What are your thoughts on Payday 2 cheaters? Should Payday 2 have VAC or some other cheat detector enabled?

>>182429439
I hate players who cheat their levels or cosmetics, but I don't hate people who pirate their DLC (but I still kick them) and I don't hate people who cheat alone, i.e. using infinite ammo to mess around.

I use Pirate Perfection to handcuff/tase/crash cheaters, it's a lot of fun but it only works with the donor version. Every single time I handcuff them and ask them why they did it, it's basically always a variation of "I was in a lobby with a cheater/I didn't even cheat, bro/Wow but you're a cheater handcuffing me even though I cheated my levels, I hate you cheater!"

>>182429439
Yes. Playing with cheaters is no fun.
XXV-100 players should be experienced.
DLC unlockers and HUDs are fine in my book.
Silent Assassin is cheating.

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>>182429439
VAC is inherently impossible for PD2 because games are hosted p2p, aka. on players' computers.

OVK wanted PD2 to be like the Killing Floor experience where people mod the shit out of their games and pub like it's TF2. They really dropped the ball hard on that with the absolute lack of proper modding support and their """""anti-cheat""""" overriding everything no matter what. Then there's the policing done in the Steam Community forum because OVK devs can't be assed to make a less crashy game. They want people to play with mods and mutators but at the same time, it's either their way or the highway. They want to drill the vault and loot it too, can't have both but they don't understand that.

Their waffling and incompetence is what's killing the PD2 community because people want to have fun and dick around and who the fuck cares but there is a massive social stigma against anything OVK could perceive as cheating. So people sit around waiting for OVK to keep bringing us the latest in the OFFICIAL OVERKILL APPROVED PAYDAY 2 EXPERIENCE ;) instead of being able to try out different things, and then just fuck off when content updates come once every few months because Starbreeze is also juggling too many projects at once (Walking Dead, John Wick VR, sodomising Dead by Daylight devs, pre-emptively strongarming Raid: WW devs, Psychonauts 2, the new Valhalla engine and PD3, still not giving PS4 players voice chat, the fucking PD2 Switch port, etc.) so this is never going to change.

Starbreeze / OVERKILL, not even once.

>>182430346
>the fucking PD2 Switch port
y-you're joking about this right?

>>182430346
The thing is,. most mods are literally cheating by definition, no matter how many people deny that getting an advantage via third party lua scripts is cheating. It's not that big of a deal though unless we're talking about shit like Silent Assassin which is absolutely, objectively 100% cheating. I just wish they would stop policing stuff like Character Blocker, which should be spread around to tell Overkill to eat shit for trying to force players to play with awful characters they shit out for $5.

https://mega.nz/#F!QJRXXSKS!499lmTzJwqpdrcYCLJYP9g

>>182430535
No, it's real. Google it.

>>182430535
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/04/payday_2_announced_for_nintendo_switch

I'm sorry, Anon.
I truly am.

>>182430780
>>182430785
Well, do you think that'll bring a bit of an edge to the Switch?

>>182430780
>The thing is,. most mods are literally cheating by definition
That's my point though.

You can't have a modding friendly community AND try your best to enforce a shitty anti-cheat both in-game and in the community at the same time. The two goals contradict each other like two magnets repelling each other.

By pushing for both, they are fucking over both. It's like the English phrase, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, or the French one, one chasing two rabbits at once will end up with none. Fucking pick one and stick with it.

>>182430942
But they don't try to enforce the in-game anticheat, it's barely functional and only for DLC unlockers and a couple of cheating things like having more grenades than normal. I don't get what you're saying, a modding friendly community in a multiplayer game should never include cheating unless playing with friends, even if it's only co-op. This is exactly how it works in Payday, you can cheat with mods with your friends in various ways but you can't do it in public games, and it shouldn't be any other way,

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>>182430346
Actually you can use whatever mods you want. As long as you just don't use them to unlock achievements/piracy. Otherwise use whatever you want, just don't be an asshole and fuck with other peoples games is all we really ask with modding. If you've got some super extreme game changing mod, make it alert people when they join ect or make it a friends only game. Just wanted to clear that up.

>>182431346
How many anons do you please per day?

>>182431317
Let me correct myself, you can do it in public games but even if the anti-cheat marked you for things that should mark you, it wouldn't matter because if you're hosting you can still play as normal.

>>182431346
>fuck with other people's games
You can do that with mods?

>>182431346
post codes slut

>>182431491
Mods like Silent Assassin affect other players in a big way. So does HoxHud, when it fucking crashes other players who don't even have it because the developer behind it is mentally retarded.

>>182431346
Hey, Trashly, what's your honest opinion on dlc unlockers? Try to answer this without employee bias.

>>182431491
The game is 50% C++ (Diesel engine), and 50% Lua. The lua bits are the worst kind of unsecured spaghetti code.

You just need to write a mod that'll ask the host to do shit and unless it's blocked by the engine itself, you can fuck with a game as much as you want. This is why shit like spawning fences to trap players, infinite ammo/health/armour/stamina/etc. as client, and stopthecheater works at all. Because the game lets them.

And this is also a major source of crashes because the spaghetti code has zero testing or assurances for correctness and when clients can inject code and modify existing lua state willy-nilly, everything goes balls up.

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>>182431491
Pretty much >>182431580

Those mods can mess with other players. We had an issue of hoxhud's personal anti-cheat often deleting objective items such as servers and loot bags making the heist impossible to complete. There is also poco that tends to spam the chat with information other users don't want to see, that's a personal peeve of mine more than anything. Other things like dominated cop outliner can cause a lot of bugs and effect everyone else.

If you wanna float around no clipping, spawn explosive bags and stuff that's fine. Just don't be an asshole and ruin the game for others, do it with friends.

That's the official view on it as far as i'm aware.

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>>182431642
I'm a moralistic asshat, so generally i don't approve of piracy. Even for companies i really dislike i still don't think its fair. Can't really say more than that or people are just gonna take me completely of of context.

>Overkill_Ashley says it's okay to pirate DLC specially against people she doesn't like
How is this thing allowed to work as a community manager?

>>182432283
Affirmative action lets the freaks of nature have jobs they shouldn't have, go figure as to why he's community manager for a company in Sweden of all places.

>>182432434
The sad part is i don't know if this post knows it was ironic.

>>182432539
Obviously the post was sarcasm, dipshit, that has nothing to do with the comment you're replying to.

>>182432024
But look at Payday 2™'s DLC. ALL of the meta weapons are locked behind the DLC paywall. You are severely locked out of ALL the unique weapons.
You are locked out of almost all the good mods. You do not have access to things like DMR kit.
The game blatantly shoves all the good locked stuff in your face, basically going "better pay up goy, or you're missing out on being a valueable member of the team".

You can't really call this fair, either, can you?
I mean, personally I'm not using the DLC unlocker, but I can definitely see a good argument for it. Can't you?

>>182432539
Shitdipper

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>>182432753
Yeh that is a serious balance issue. A lot of the DLC guns are also garbage as well as some are brokenly OP.

Rattlesnake, Peacemaker, Valkarie, lever action rifle ect ect. There are just as many if not more awful dlc weapons as there are good ones.

I'm personally not happy with the balance at all, i've made it known a few times. It's not my position though.

>>182434312
It's alright if it's not your position and you can't have any influence on it, all I wanted was your opinion on the DLC unlocker, especially with regards to the current balance and how you're basically forced to buy DLC just to be competitive with buyfags.

>>182432753
>>182434312
Not to mention that there's no non-DLC grenade launchers.

>>182435568
That's kind of what I meant with
>locked out of ALL the unique weapons

Without DLC, all you have are pistols, rifles, shotguns, and one sniper. Nothing fancy or otherwise useful at all.

why is dodge so good? i just feel very weak and vulnerable with it

>>182436091
Stop standing in the open then.

>>182436091
That's because you're shit at the game

if your gun does sub 80 damage its shit

if your gun does sub 200 damage its shit

>>182437565
i dont, but with armor i have little more breathing room so i dont have to hug cover
>>182441245
i see

>>182436091
Dodge is only good on one down where your armor breaks instantly anyway. For deathwish the best option is anarchist with frenzy

>>182443486
>his armor breaks on OD
lmao shitter

Add autistic memes to continue the thread.

>>182445984
>>182445096
He's already on it

>>182445984
You're an autistic meme.

Hm, yeah it is not autistic memes... Yeah. It should be scalies. Yep, sure that is it.

>>182348729
Meth cooking produces a lot of toxic chemicals which smell terrible and can create permanent damage to parts of the structure.
It's one reason that, by law, realtors are required to disclose if a house has ever been a meth cook house, and failure to disclose is grounds for termination of contracts.

How fast is a shark?

>>182450214
50 km/h

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why do they do so much damage

>>182452636
because they use mp5s which are designed for lower difficulties, meaning they do an abnormal amount of damage when used by cops on higher difficulties

this is why blue swat are the same way

>>182402774

Only if you excuse me while I steal a dozen nuclear warheads from a different Murky facility that also used to be stealth-only for no reason.

>>182453398
No Worries, just let me extract serveral ton safes from a disaster zone on the West Coast

>>182453398
Only if you excuse me while killing more cops than exists in D.C. while stealing said nuclear warheads.

>>182436091
>not using Crook and having decent dodge and armor

>>182453604
Only if you excuse me while I rob a highly secured base in butt-fuck nevada that's used as a safehouse by a paramilitary organization that operates around the globe. And strangely enough the fucking police are more keen on defending the base that said organization is.

>>182430346
you forgot System Shock 3
which i didn't know was in development and i haven't heard anything about since i read that Starbreeze was gonna publish it

>>182422614
never bothered to understand how it works, I just don't play that shitty heist

>>182452636
>dominate fbi agents in breakout
>they proceed to get 4 times more kill than a tan

>>182463535
>i'm a shitter so this heist is shit

git gud retard

>>182422614
>still people who run down and instantly bag an engine
>retards who don't know how to do it can't even use a calculator