/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>>182221392
Innovative.

Dead general?

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Can I get a quick rundown on the final floor of Sil? Should I kill Morgoth, or just run?

>>182222837
You probably can't kill him with this. You didnt find a better weapon? Take your sil and gtfo imo

>>182222623
extremely dead

>>182222837
killing morgy is the challenge option
the easy/standard way is to just knock his hat off, steal one silmaril, and GTFO

You died, huh?
Too bad, that was actually a good thread.
Here, have this.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Roguelike
I know one of you nagas edited it, because you talk about how dcss got worse and worse with every new installment and specifically say "roguelite" when talking about FTL and nuclear throne and stuff even if the title says "action roguelike".

Good man.

>>182223865
rlg actually began its life as a dcss thread in /tg/

oh fug i got the sil
i'm on my way up

>>182224487
Good luck anon, dont die. Get exchange place if you havent already

I'm bored anons. Give me a good dcss start.

>>182226426
minotaur berserker

>>182226426
sphu

>>182226426
troll arcane marksman

>>182226426
spriggan chaos knight

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I have no idea what in the hell to do with this. But troll arcane marksman it is.

>>182226830
Drop your book and start training unarmed.

>>182226904
What kind of proper wizard drops his book? I need to cast more than ruk.

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The D2 mystery altar was to XOM. Things are getting interesting.

>>182223865
>all those happy, friendly descriptions
>duuude just look how much fun can you have!
Meanwhile most descriptions in /rlg/ pasta:
>it's shit and terrible
>this niggerturd is technically a roguelike, but lmao we don't want to talk about it

It's like /tg/ is a different sector of 4chan, not /pol/lutted and not filled with nasty cunts.

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what do i do here? am I done for?

>>182227765
Coincidentally, /tg/ is also one of the most normalfag and reddit-ridden boards on 4chan, which is really ironic due to its supposed status of "le /d/ lite", and largely due to 1d4chan acting as a gateway the same way ED once did before it died, but this time only for /tg/ exclusively.

>>182228460
/d/ is normie-heavy too nowadays.
Proper 4chan spergs don't ERP or discuss fetishes, just exchange porn.

>>182229106
I wish I could disagree, but some of the recent changes in DDA are just too much for me to dealdo with.

>>182222623
we still have the maggot faggot though

>>182222837
>Rothschilds bow to Morgoth
>In contact with aliens
>Possess psychic>like abilities
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Morgoth babies
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Morgoth are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged

the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Morgoth bunker in Wilkes land?
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Morgoth
>The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space>time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.

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So corona and slow have been the dankest shit with troll unarmed and ruk. However I forgot how much vodka I drank and fear a splat soon.

>>182230354
>corona
Waste of turn

>>182230628
Meh makes up for my lower combat skills kinda.
I asked for FUN! not function. I will admit im shit at roguelikes.

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Some ogre lady dropped a +4 giant spiked club. I can enchant it to +6 and brand it when I get the scroll. Is that a good idea?

>>182231249
you're a troll nigga just use your claws
leave the GSCs for the race with the +3 apt

>>182231482
>the race with the +3 apt
anon..

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Can we FUCKING STOP IT with the invisible assholes that randomly appear in IA all the time and fuck your game up? It was already impossible to beat without this happening all the time.

>>182233424
You mean the invisible stalkers that can literally show up on the first level of the dungeon?

Invisibility is only a cool mechanic when you can have it yourself. You should be able to spot invisible enemies

>>182236616
You can go invisible in IA though.

>>182236616
You should be able to piss on them to mark them. A MiBe should find them with his nose

>>182224487
did you died?

>>182231482
>Troll of Xom

JUST DO IT

>>182230628
>waste of turn
Oh noes, hopefully he doesn't starve, as DCSS has a totally meaningful hunger mechanic

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>>182239373
Fucking kill yourself

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>>182239373
what >>182239635 said, thank you.

did that sil guy die

>>182243764

veronica isn't good at games
only shitposting

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ded ass thred, so I'll just post my run.

Monks are pretty fun to play, especially ones with the protection spell so I can stack AC quick and kill those pesky water demons.

>>182231249
at high skill unarmed combat has better base damage and is twice as fast as a GSC

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https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/21359#issuecomment-314011962

Not even Coolthulhu can save us from Kevin's autism.

>>182251591
Will the non retard devs leave this trainwreck and make a better fork?

>>182251591
I like this Coolthulu guy

>>182251591
Coolthulhu should just fork the fucking repo and stop making PRs. I'd play that shit after a couple years of continuous development.

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>>182251591
>Imaginary monsters can now break your limbs

What a time to be alive

>>182251591
Kek.
http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=14723.msg302110#msg302110
>be maintainer of an open source project
>allow other people to have commit access
>get mad when they commit stuff
>revert it poorly and ruin everything
>throw a tantrum on the forums because not everyone is dancing to your tune despite your wonderful leadership skills

>>182253323
NO. IT. WAS. NOT.

>>182235670
Maybe, I mean the guys that deal extreme amounts of damage and stick up close to you so you can't run away from their attacks. Also the ones that attack your spirit and kill you in 2 hits while inflicting terror.

Also is it just me or when you play anything that isn't Occultist, are most of the scrolls completely useless or what? I get Darkbolt, Azathoth's Wrath, Mayhem, Paralyze, Fear, Teleport, Opening, Pestilence, Summon Creature and Light; but alongside those there are like 5 billion more types of scrolls that never do anything.

Snakes appearing out of thin air (and spitting at you in the same turn) also tends to happen at the worst moment, not a fan of that either.

>>182236616
IA lets you turn invisible and detect invisible creatures via potions... if you can get those instead of useless junk like Confusion or Blindness (I think there's no need to bother with chucking potions at single targets when you always get attacked by huge groups, and you have dynamites or molotovs).

>>182239635
>>182240476
sweet, will do senpaitachi :)

>>182237181
Yeah I did. Next time I definitely will take Exchange Places.

How does the telescopic crane works?
I see nothing to activate it and it doesn't seem to do anything.

>>182229525
the what

>>182256242
don't ask
Look in the last thread in the end and never look back

Do NOT reply to shitposters

>>182256592
ok anon

did I do this right?

you gotta post the pony too

>>182257304
NO. YOU. DID. NOT.

>>182257304
That depends
Are you angry about mummy jpegs
Are you angry about having to make a new thread while pouring olive oil
Are you angry about roguelites
Do you like ponies
Are you a tryhard
Do you like huge futa dicks
Do you wanna slex the amy

>>182257556
IMO Stop being obsessed with attention whores.

I'd slex the amy with my hyper futa horsedick if you know what I mean.

>>182257556
>Do you like huge futa dicks
what's wrong with that

what the fuck are you talking about

>>182257680
No I don't know what you mean, can you elaborate?

>>182256592

>>182258297
this

>>182251591
>Targeted fixes to the healing process being reset by hallucinations or a nuanced fix to handle non-damaging attacks vs negated damage are welcome.

So he could have just solved the problem forever with one line of "if (damage > 0)" but instead he decided to special-case everything.

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Every Coder here, rally behind Coolthulu and make a fork!!!!

>>182259023
>Every Coder here
Have some news for you, bud.

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>>182259023
nah

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>>182259130
It's not that I can't, I'd rather be independent or to have a boss who doesn't go by the name 'Coolthulu'.

>>182259130
Yes, it's 'programmer' damn it.

>>182259830
I'm sure the SNs you use online are so much better.

DCSS is so fucking stupid/
I have MR+++ and STILL got abyss'd. This is the second good character in a row that I've lost because retards thought randomly sending characters to a difficult place with literal random exits was a good idea.
I thought MR was supposed to make you resist getting banished but I guess not.

>>182260729
You can examine monsters to see what their chance of banishing you is.
If it's higher than 5%, you should fight them as if they can banish you on any given turn.

>>182260729
If youre sent to abyss by a distortion weapon, it doesnt matter how much mr you have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQnA_792Fo&user=Demise%20AU

Guide to stabbers in DCSS.

>>182261012
>>182239635

>>182260915
>>182260951
Why isn't there a minimum level to getting banished?
I keep getting banished on characters with potential around the end of Lair. Seriously this is the second character in a row this has happened to for fucks sake.

>>182261507
Just check the weapons of your enemies ffs

>>182261507
Check weapons, spells on mages and play carefully around enemies you arent familiar with

I've been in a coma for 6 months, what features- err I mean redundant content have they removed from DCSS? And did they add anything of interest?

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>>182257680
She just ascended, too. 10 days too late, sadly. :(

>>182261507
All of the claims you have made are seriously doubtful.
My question is: what do you have to gain by lying about your experiences in an alphabet soup simulator to a collective of anonymous soup simulator hobbyists?

>>182261113
Eat dick, nigga.

>>182261831
You know you're talking about a procedural generated content game, right?
Yeah it happened.
One from a spellcaster in post-Lair Dungeon that I can't remember the name, second time inside Lair against Harold.
Why would you assume someone is lying?

>>182239373
Not a roguelike.

>>182261765
high elves are gone, rods are gone, ogres are bad with their signature weapons, and a bunch of uniques are girls because muh diversity
you can be a battletoad though

>>182262354
>ogres are bad with their signature weapons
I'm going to keep saying it until you dumb mibes get it through your thick skulls.
Ogres take less experience to get a giant club to mindelay than merfolks take to get a bardiche to mindelay. With the higher base damage of the GC, and Og's better Strength and Fighting apt, the ogre is going to mitigate the difference between the skill bonus to damage/accuracy and the reaching bonus.

Say it with me now:
Ogres take less experience to get a giant club to mindelay than merfolks take to get a bardiche to mindelay.

>>182261507
There are only a handful of things that can abyss you pre-rune, and half of them are distortion weapons that ignore MR.
I think Erolcha and Louise are the only uniques with banishment spell, and ogre mages, spooky deep elves, and some wizards will have it. Psyche and Sonja are the only uniques with a high chance of having a ditortionnweapon, but both of them are nullified by a wand of paralysis/confusion.

All dangerous monsters pre-lair can't wield weapons anyways, and the ones that can are weak as fuck or have shit MR.

All in all, if you get abyss'd it is almost certainly your fault.

>>182262116
I doubt a shitter like you would even be able to get to lair 2 times in a row.
Also please see:
>>182261675
>>182261714

>>182262824
>I doubt a shitter like you would even be able to get to lair 2 times in a row.
lmao DCSS is easy up until post-lair. It's easy to get to lair as long as you aren't screwed over by RNG.

>>182263028
Not even him, but pre-lair DCSS is always the hardest part.

Everything after that is a complete and utter snoozefest.

>>182262354
>high elves are gone
Why
>rods are gone
Why
>ogres
Don't care much about them. Also I'm always up for cute girls I suppose.

Are these Barachians the toads you mentioned? Can I do monk runs with them? Also holy hell, is that a huge GUI change or am I remembering it wrong.

>>182249408
>27 skill trollclaws:
6 + 27 bonus from weapon skill = 33 base damage (not counting bonuses from str, fighting skill, slaying later on)
>27 skill vorpal gsc:
22 * (1 + 1d27/25) ~= 34 avg. damage
* 1.16 bonus from vorpal = 39.3
plus it can have +9 enchantment, which is also multiplied by the brand. and you can get much better brands than vorpal

>>182263401
Maybe it's just my familiarity with pre-lair because it's not difficult for me as I can recognize the non-unique threats.

>>182263683
trolls can have statue claws

>>182263028
wtf mate. Once you get past lair the game is basically won unless you fuck up royally.

>>182263978
>>182263401
Noob here, I almost always make it to Lair but I only won the game once.

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>>182257690
it's degenerate and sinful

>>182264132
Then you definitely are on a good way. What Race/Class you normally play?
I think if you post some morgues we could analyse them and find your fault pretty fast

>>182263683
>using vorpal
>almost ever
Besides, leveling maces on -1 v uc on 0.. And dont forget that the base speed of gsc at max is 0.7 or 0.8 while uc is 0.5, it matters a lot

>>182264602
i'm not disagreeing that claws are smarter than gsc for troll
im just pointing out that the claim that they do MORE damage is false, even when the club is +0 and has one of the weakest brands

>>182264548
Easy stupid combos like MiBe.
Usually die because I got careless.

I'm a noob.
My crawl version is 0.19.5 and I'm trying to make DECj work.

Should I update it?
Has things change much for DEs or Cjs?

>>182264957
There's no battlesphere anymore in the starting book, so if you want to go 0.20, DEFE is probably better at this point.

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Name three things/features that would give you the biggest erections to see in a roguelike.

>>182264917
Maybe this doesn't apply to you but I always take a break after reaching some checkpoint, like lair, high dungeon and so forth.
Playing without high concentration is a major killer

>>182265293
That's not for me. I got no self-control and have to play until 3am to die a stupid death.

>>182265274
recruiting and levelling up allies
varied playstyles
lots of gimmicky races

>>182265274
I can only come up with one:

Sandbox.

>>182265274
>meaningful npc interactions which have "personalities"
>Sandboxlike environment manipulation (as far as balance allows). Like throwing out oil to make bigger fire. Laying out traps or maybe even setting up farms and walling them in to get the harvest later (I don't know if that would actually make for good gameplay)
>A class "Twins" where you start as 2 people, or have one ally with you (you could control maybe)

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Wow.

>>182265274
Emergent skills or classes unlocked by playing in a certain way. (i.e. focusing on killing lots of undead)

Exotic/Gimmicky weapons and spells.

Gaining abilities from the unique encounters you defeat.

>>182265274
fucking the dragon after you win

>>182264802
They only deal more damage early on, the longer the fight goes, claws take over
Also you need to note that offhand punches are a factor as well, unless you have a shield which is dumb not to, but still, its there and that claws are always unbranded so its one huge factor they lose on, but luckly stuff like confuse touch, statue form or whatever is nice to use/have for shit like this

>>182265274
getting fucked by the dragon after you lose

>>182265841
did you survive?

>>182266565
having the evil sorceror use mysterious magicks to turn @ into a girl and THEN fuck you
whether you win or lose affects whether you can turn back afterwards

>>182266853
>blue @ turns into a pink @
whyboner.xbm

>recruiting/leveling allies
>varied playstyles
Cool

>sandbox
I think that goes without saying

>personalities
Personalities are tough because you tend to either get well made but repetitive npcs, or pseudorandomly generated ones which can only have so much flavor
>environment manipulation
Cool

>unlocked by playing in a certain way
Cool
>Gaining abilities from the unique encounters
Even cooler

>erp
So would it have to be full on h-game stuff or just a little message describing what happened?

>>182267587
>wanting a sandbox in your rouge like
stop

>>182265274
good devs

>>182265274
Handcrafted content and story.
Real time gameplay.
Softer penalties for failing.(No more perma-death, it's an archaic mechanic, a relic from the past when computers couldn't save game states, we have no more need for it as a genre.)

Don't reply to obvious bait

>d:1 goblin with antimagic spear

ok

>>182269028
It's what they call a joke lad, lighten up.

>>182269224
It's hard to take those as jokes after so many shitposters tried to do the same

>>182269194
>speed 10 enemy
wow sounds spooky

>>182260259
Kevin gains a lot of respectability just because he uses his actual name. He's not afraid to put his real self beside his product, even as he makes (what should be) embarrassing project management decisions.

>>182269334
The list is basically the antithesis of what a roguelike stands for, I don't think any roguelike fan could take a post like that seriously.

>>182269689
>CleverRaven

Anyway did you saw the album with photos of his baby?

>>182269781
You'd be suprised

>>182265274
good ui
highly differentiated, individually interesting combat options (fuck 1-10 vs 2-9 damage type shit)
various types of terrain that can be interacted with + a fitting, interesting dungeon gen algorithm

bonus 4th: noncombat mechanics (stealth that doesn't stuck, maybe even negotiation)

>>182269689

I dunno, his position seems alright to me, but I might be less autistic than the average /rlg/ regular.

Coolthulhu & mugling are basically saying "it used to work fine, let's just put it back the way it was and worry about fixing it 'right' later"

Kevin's position seems to be "It wasn't fine the way it was, it threw out half the details we've put into all these weapons and it worked in a stupid, limited way."
Also I can really understand the urge to fix it the right way, rather than just do a temporary fix and leave the correct one for the indefinite future. The project's history shows that half-assed temporary fixes tend to stick around for years and cause problems. That's basically what's holding up Z levels, after all.

So both sides have merit, IMO.

>>182269689
Do you also respect CWC?

Not staying anonymous (for anything but normalfaggotry) is a sign of ignorance or just being shameless.

>>182258628
This is exactly what the close PR does - he didn't even need to write anything, just press "merge".
>he decided to special-case everything
As if.
He didn't special-case anything, just said that anyone who wants to fix it will have to special case things.

Kevin doesn't exactly contribute any real code to CDDA anymore.
Last change that he wrote was when he reverted mugling's ranged combat changes - the one thing that mugling did do really fucking well. Ironically, he likes mugling's fuckups and prevented anyone from fixing those.

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fugg :D

(inb4 >saving, ever)

>>182270314
The problem with this thinking is that the temporary fix really is better than the status quo. If we're going to use an inferior system in order to make it as painful as possible that some mystery developer will come over and do a real solution, why not just make it so that guns always miss? That'll make the game unfun, right?

This sort of philosophy does not lead to a healthy development community. Do you want to write 500 lines of perfect trajectory code that will amount to nothing if you fail to perform the pull ritual correctly, which apparently depends on Kevin's mood? I don't.

>>182266642

stepped out, only one non-sleeping enemy.

will come back with Shatter and wreck them..!

>>182270314
The problem is, Kevin's "fix" does not actually account for any of that. It only adds them in a different way, with terrible results.

>That's basically what's holding up Z levels, after all.
No, what is holding Z levels is lack of good 3D vision algorithm.
It does not depend on the "right thing", because vision is calculated on caches anyway.

>>182265841
Had that happen to me but it was much, much worse. Still survived somehow though.
Honestly that spawn pattern is fucking stupid.

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>>182271002
>he likes mugling's fuckups and prevented anyone from fixing those.

Don't forget that he did reverted mugling's gear thing for vehicles.
And mugling disappeared after Kevin came back from having a kid.

Out of all the people with merge perms, no one has done anything that affected directly the game.
And the only stuff that Kevin has done in the past few months are the travis CI and covers support. With some tidbits regarding libraries and generally maintenance type of stuff.

At this point, if you want to contribute changes to already existing code that works bad for any reason, you first need to make sure Kevin hasn't state any guidelines for it. Which aren't recorded in any place but random posts spread around the project.

Also you have to remember that this isn't a democracy.

http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=10444.msg244402#msg244402

>>182272059
>dark gray text on darker-gray background
Okay...
(it's actually (138,138,138) but still come on)

>>182272059
>Also you have to remember that this isn't a democracy.
No project is

>>182270314
>his position seems alright to me,

Wait, I retract that. Coolthulhu's latest post makes it painfully clear that Kevin's fuckin' up.

>>182272059
>Don't forget that he did reverted mugling's gear thing for vehicles.
The gear thing was actually pretty badly done in multiple ways. Though Kevin did not care about the actually bad things here, only that it broke multiple engine vehicles.
Vitamin system and jacks and cranes are pretty much all bad. Kevin defends them by setting arbitrarily high standards for anything that would make player's life easier.

>Out of all the people with merge perms, no one has done anything that affected directly the game.
It's supposed to be in a feature freeze until 0.D stable. Some people are actually fixing things to get it closer to release, Kevin is just shooting down QoL and reverting massive improvements to aiming.

>>182272730
>Vitamin system and jacks and cranes

I kinda like these, especially the vitamin system. It means I have a reason to use all these different food types in mid-to-late game, and vitamins in early game, instead of just "oatmeal and water all day erryday" like I could before.

>>182272730
>It's supposed to be in a feature freeze until 0.D stable.

The feature freeze is recent, I meant in the past 3-4 months.

And I guess what I want to say is that out of the people with merge perms, Cool is the only one that has actually worked in fixing stuff that directly affects the players. That tells you how motivated the "core" devs of CDDA are.

>>182273103
why not? sounds like a /fit/ approved diet

>>182273103
In practice I expect that won't make vitamins rarer because muh realism, so you'll live on oatmeal, water, and a multivitamin instead.

>>182273103
SPOILERS:
Unless you're playing with PK mod, vitamins have no in-game effect except messages. None at all.

Actually mugling wanted to make it all sensible at one point. He fucked up by choosing realistic names and soon it was all arguments like
>in real life you need to stop eating fruits for a month to get scurvy

And it turned out like >>182273956 said.

>>182273956

Had a long-term character who occupied a farm, and nah, multivitamins started to run low by the third year and I started hoarding them for emergency use and relying on other sources of food to get the necessary vitamins.

yes but by the time you've been autistically farming oats for three years you are playing a completely different video game

>>182277004
what else are you gonna do in the late game?

>>182277095
ctrl-q probably

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http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=14723.msg302185#msg302185

I don't know what to think of this.

>Shaft makes me fall 2 levels down into the middle of ALL the enemies in Lair
Holy shit man what the fuck is with my luck

>>182277193
That last part is stupid.
When wasn't Kevin like that? Anyone got the screencaps when he shat on Tung?

>>182277469
Shafts fucking suck
>prepare to enter lair on D:10
>fall down 3 floors
>get chased by hydras and skeleton warriors while looking for stairs
>can't teleport or haste because formicid

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>>182265274
High tum counts.

>>182277469
this is bad design. You can't do anything in a situation like this. Make it when you shaft that there are no enemies

I heard from a friend that the board is getting raided. I haven't played roguelikes in months but I come to bump the thread

>>182279642
>bunch of active generals got flattened
>fucking /rlg/ survived
nice

>>182280024
well rlg isnt an active general
it's barely alive

>>182279642
what kind of raid?

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/rlg/ is powerful

>>182280128
Yes, and we got enough bumps that we managed to survive the raid while the actually active generals couldn't.

>>182279475
>be shafted
>because of some special new code it's in an uninhabited area
>but you still have to go somewhere to find the stairs up, where there might be enemies
>if the enemies are too strong you have to retreat into more enemies

>get cast into the abyss
>no fucking way please im terrified
>Running around trying to find the exit
>Only stairways leading deeper
>Can't call my orcs here
>heavy breathing
>Eventually i explore almost the whole map, beat some weird enemy
>Says it opens a gateway
>ohmygosh
>Come back
>Beat the fucking shit out of the enemy that threw me in there
Fuck the abyss.

>>182280670
We are used to bumping dying threads.
After all, most of the games we're playing are dying.

>>182280289
Some bot was creating /vp/ generals here. Now it's gone to /v/

So glad I quit playing CDDA, now I only play serious roguelikes.

>>182228460
perhaps it's because the original user base was displaced entirely and autistic spergs came in that just post generals all the time

>>182282170
Posting on /rlg/ is not a roguelike, nor is it serious.

>>182282884
No man, I've seen old /tg/.
It was pretty reddit even back then.

>>182283062
it was /b/ with /tg/ themes 10 years ago, now it's just reddit in imageboard format, where all board culture is reviled and considered cancer, and the userbase more fragmented than ever

>>182282891
>Permadeath
>Turn-based
>Procedurally generated content
>Not a rogue like
Sure buddy.

if you die in /rlg/ you die in real life

>>182283243
>where all board culture is reviled and considered cancer
Board culture such as?
Just saying "nigger" /b/-style, any and all memes or what?
Do they hate non-normies now?

>>182283243
If /tg/ didn't have generals, the what, 4-5 MTG generals (which are also some of the fastest threads on the board) would spread like cancer and soon enough you'd have a /tg/ that was 1/3 MTG. Same goes for all things GW, 40k by itself always has at least 3 generals.

Some of its generals are legitimately nice, too. /osrg/ and /hwg/ come to mind

>>182280970
I actually like it as a way to get the third rune. For some characters with good regen it's easier than vaults 5

>>182283830
No, that anon is just being incredibly hyperbolic

I've played dcss for far too long to still be as shit as I am.
How do I git gud?

>>182283413
>You ignore the shitposter.
>You ignore the shitposter.
>You ignore the shitposter.
>The shitposter dies.

/rlg/ roguelike when?

>>182284841
Sorry, that can't be from the /rlg/ roguelike

>>182284841
>You ignore the shitposter.
>You ignore the shitposter.
>You ignore the shitposter.
>The shitposter dies.
>A shitposter comes into view.

>>182284947
>You fail to ignore the shitposter.
>You fail to ignore the shitposter.
>You fail to ignore the shitposter.
>YOU BECOME ENRAGED!
>YOU FAIL TO IGNORE THE SHITPOSTER!
>YOU FAIL TO IGNORE THE SHITPOSTER!
>The thread dies...

>>182285024
Fuck, that got a real laugh out of me, why didn't I make that joke?

I'm following the python roguelike tutorial right now, maybe I'll name my placeholder monster shitposters.

>>182285280
Be sure to make the player a vegan.

>>182283243
The modpocalypse turned /tg/ into /reddit/, because the lawless shitfests that would make normalfags and tumblerinas butthurt were no longer there and that allowed the cancer to take over the board.

>>182285280
is the tutorial good? I'm considering it too, but know nothing about python (also learning python 2 seems useless to me)

>>182285484
The ever waging war with the normies. One day, this board will get infested too and we have to migrate. This happens with everything we discover and use, until they make it "cool"

>>182285484
What exactly is happening?
I hear about this downfall and all, but it's all just vague terms.

Is it all women and IRL meetups or what?

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>>182285206
>>182285024
>>182284841

Let's make an aralgee roguelike

>>182285748

Nothing much happened, except all the weird quirky shit got banned and /tg/ was left to be just like every other RPG forum on the net.

>>182285982
>namefags
>namefags everyhwere

>>182285701
Python 2 is mostly the same as 3.
Most of the tutorial code should run without modification on 3 but I'm not sure if libtocd has a working port.

>>182285982
is /tg/ no longer /d/-lite? or is it new-/d/-lite?

>>182285982
>no more quirks on /tg/
It's like making a spider-man that doesn't stop whining about everything
wait...

>>182285748
What happened YEARS ago was nazimod. I doubt those guys actually browsed /tg/ back then, though

What is happening RIGHT NOW is that the whole site is having a demographic shift, due to the election and gamergate before it causing fuckhuge traffic upticks from people mostly coming from reddit.

>Trying to get into CDDA mutations
>Keep getting Carnivore
>Keep being sent back to square one when trying to purify it

>>182228301
Is this an actual game?

>>182286154

Not really. An influx of super-autismos drove that out, along with most of the other content creation stuff, with a constant drone of "that's not traditional games! off-topic!" whining. Even homebrew systems were attacked by some of these shitposters, because they weren't "real" games.
And anything lewd or smutty got it the worst.

Is CDDA a good game? I can't imagine what you do after you have settled and survived the early game as there is no win-condition? Is there any interesting content after the first days?

>>182287072
There's enough bloat to distract you for at least an ingame year

>>182286257
I browsed /tg/ when Nazimod happened. Nowdays when you hear about that absolute cancer given human form, you probably won't even get a sufficient picture of how bad he was because he had many apologists and normalfags sucking his cock even after he was booted who've manipulated the narrative over the years.

>>182287072
>Is CDDA a good game?
Many parts are tons of fun, others are a giant mess that you want to avoid.
>I can't imagine what you do after you have settled and survived the early game as there is no win-condition?
There isn't much, but it's fun before you run out of things to do.
>Is there any interesting content after the first days?
At some point, all zombies start evolving into giga niggas and you have to actually rethink your "build".

>>182287072

Most people either build a deathmobile and roll across the countryside, or set up a base and start bringing NPCs to help build it up.

>>182287072
The first year or so can be pretty interesting as you build up a deathmobile with everything you need and quickly become an unstoppable killing machine. But after that every character feels kinda samey. I haven't been able to bring myself to play it in almost 6 months and with some of the changes I've been seeing recently it doesn't seem likely I will again any time soon.

>>182287419
>But after that every character feels kinda samey.
Experiment characters with genetic chaos mutation always play differently from the regular normie pleb ones.

>>182287539
Sorry I meant playing after a few in-game months most character 'builds' are going to be pretty much the same. The first few days, especially playing out the various scenarios are the most fun part of the game.

>>182287782
Have you tried the genetic chaos ones, though?
They ruin your armor slots, give you unarmed attacks, give you random resistances
They only become the same as everyone else once you start mass-crafting purifier.

>find a 200L barrel
>can't fit in my car's trunk
>have to weld it to the side of my vehicle to bring it home
Cataclysm solutions

>>182288371
Even if I get past the initial survive whatever wonkiness my initial build provides it's still the same game of loot, move on, loot, move on, etc. Looting a gun store as a mutant with claws and tentacle legs is not really much different from anything else. Maybe I've just played it to death though.

>>182289327
It always played differently for me when I couldn't armor myself to 95% coverage 7/7 on all body parts.

Friendly reminder that if you play your games not locally you support the cancerous idea of cloud gaming.

>>182291326
It's fine if they're all open source, though.
It's only cancer when you have to use the (((cloud))).

Friendly reminder that if you play your games locally you are a casual save-scummer and your accomplishments mean nothing

not they they meant anything anyway

>>182292085
I would play online but I'm too impatient and don't like lagging.

>>182293220
My only suggestion is to try not living in Australia.

>>182293718
It's easy to stop living in Australia - just go for a swim

>>182285701
Notice how many successful Python roguelikes there are that are based on that tutorial (not many).

The Python 2 part is actually not the problem. Do anything with Python and you'll realize that even though 3 is better, your project depends on some library written by someone else in Python 2. The issue is that the tutorial-writer is pushing a component-based architecture that is too counterintuitive for newbies.

Seems like ant nests have been nerfed, I only got two eggs from a chamber (unless they hatch with time?)

And a honey ball, whatever you do with that.

hello my friends, I want to make a roguelike on unity.

give me some tips on how to make something you would be interested into playing.

I would like to make a roguelike about non melee combat, basically you have to use non melee skills to kill monsters.

>>182294924
>unity
stop right there

>>182295135
what's wrong with unity?

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>>182295247
It's so non-free you might as well put chains on the users.
Its user license requires agreeing to sharing pretty much any data, without asking, without the dev having any say in it.

>>182294924
Usual tips:
Don't get too worked up about the amazing stuff you will implement, about neural network monte carlo tree search alpha beta pruned AI.
Get the basics first and only then start planning sex with futa dragongirls.

Is Carnivore really a bad mutation in Cataclysm? I keep getting it and trying to get rid of it always makes me lose all of my other mutations. I'm also starting to run out of bleach to make mutagen with.

>>182295247
>>182295602
Don't forget it's optimized like an hamster in a wheel trying to power a building, if the wheel was glued and the hamster was dead

>>182295602
so you're a freetard?

Also, dunno if making it strictly a 2D turn based roguelike or use 3D and use unity physics.

>>182295815
It isn't if you have a meat source nearby, like an ant hill.

>>182295815

It's not all that bad, it leads into some cooler ones IMO.

>>182295882
>calling people freetards

>on /rlg/ of all places

That really sizzles my sausage.

>>182295815
It's the worst food mutation, but food doesn't matter much.

>>182295882
nonfree games are not roguelikes

>>182295815
Not terrible, especially later on if you've smoked a billion ants or whatever.

>>182295882
>being a cuck
>le if you have le nothing to le hide you have le nothing to le fear
>just sell my private data up senpai, I enjoy being a product

>le

>>182277193
Time for Coolthulhu to lose commit access and be banned from the forums.

>you came to the wrong Gnu/Neighborhood, motherfucker!

>>182297101
Give me Freedom (as in Freedom, not as in Free Beerdom), or give me death

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>>182297218

Hell yeah, man.

I like this general. You autists are alright.

Dead (but Free) general

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How will I fuck this up?
Also what God should I choose, I have so many option and I can't decide between free spells from Sif or weapons and armor from oka

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>>182298264

>>182298547
ashenzari

>>182298547
going to die in V:5

>The door was a mimic
Wew this is what I get for playing older versions
Damn why did djinni get removed

>>182299662
They weren't added. The person behind Dj gave up on them.

>>182295882
>freetard
name one non open source roguelike that isn't shit
I dare you

>>182301194
One way heroics

>>182301194
>>182301403
Fucking rekt.
Also MSE.

>>182301403
He said a non-open source roguelike that is not shit.

>>182301532
>>182301403
uh excuse me I said isn't shit??

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>>182277193
I actually agree with Coolthulhu here, although he is still retarded for certain issues. Mod that fixes UPS recharging station efficiency WHEN?

>Mutation withdrawl
Am I supposed to stockpile food and water and wait in a bunker for years or is it not a big deal?

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>>182277469
Traps are fun and exciting

>>182302258
>Mod that fixes UPS recharging station efficiency WHEN?
When you PR i- oh wait Kevin agrees with the 10 times the cost thing :)

>>182302879
still better than the shadow traps

>>182302879
Of course, they're like futa but with less plebshit.

>>182304691
Mainly men with lots of muscles are better

>>182304906
Only as bottoms

>>182305030
now manly men and traps at the same time...
Anyway roguelikes, Dith is suprisingly fun, what's the stealth skill needed to reach the maximum with him?

>>182295602
Unity isn't interested in your precious roguelike code.

>>182305701
>code
Nigger please
By installing anything made with unity, you accept an EULA that makes you a cucked bottom bitch for Nozenberg Steinowitz
Just installing - you don't need to develop anything

>>182306695
Could you please explain in non-sexual terms what you believe is objectionable about the Unity EULA?

>>182307098
summarize your legal obligations under the EULA

>>182307098

He already did. See >>182295602 :
>Its user license requires agreeing to sharing pretty much any data, without asking, without the dev having any say in it.

>>182307098
>You acknowledge and accept Unity's privacy policy. You agree that the Software (including the Unity runtime in your Licensee Content) may send data to Unity to: (a) check for Software updates; (b) provide aggregated usage statistics of your use of the Software and the use of your Licensee Content by end users; (c) provide analytics and advertising services; and (d) validate license keys in order to prevent unauthorized use.
>aggregated usage statistics
>analytics and advertising services
If you don't want sexual, I'm sure you'll prefer this language:
>By using Unity spice to spice the food in your restaurant, you acknowledge and accept the policy that: (a) If the spice contains tracking bugs, that's perfectly fine and you won't complain, (b) Anyone who eats food spiced with the Unity spice also agrees to have ads displayed through whatever means necessary

>>182307979
Instead of going straight to metaphor, maybe you should take the time to understand that usage statistics means stuff like "how many times per week does he run the program", not anything that hurts you to have Unity know about.

>>182308932

Yeah, that's clause a, but you know what "analytics and advertising services" means, right? Adware/spyware/tracking.

>>182308932
"Aggregated usage statistics" could well mean all your system data and anything only vaguely related to the software in question.
PROTIP: If it doesn't state the limits strictly and exactly, it allows (((them))) to do anything

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What Cataclysm mutation line lets me do pic related?

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>>182310695
>video is obviously the result of bionic mods
>asks for a mutation line

>>182311056
how do you tell the animes apart when they all look the same

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>>182311239
you look at the title on the cover of the dvd and/or book

>>182311056
>>182311473
Seriously hoping you don't actually enjoy this rubbish, lad.
I bet you play ToME4 too, you horrid degenerate.

>>182310695
CBM: Internal Furnace
CBM: Head Alloy
CBM: Arms Alloy
CBM: Torso Alloy
CBM: Legs Alloy
CBM: Internal Storage
CBM: Hydraulic Muscles

>>182310695
Why is my dick hard?

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>>182311589
what about tome2

>>182311617
Because you want to ride her, she is driving you mad.

>>182312428
Can she drift though?

Ahahahah! He did it! He did the thing! The absolute madman!

Cataclysm: Cool Days Ahead when?

>>182314516
Who did what?

>>182314637
never

Dead general for dead genre

I'm going to make a *band.
I will call it angband, but put a letter in front of the "angband" part.

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>>182316368
gangband and make it about niggers

>>182316429
That's stupid and you're an idiot. Kill yourself.

>>182316368
Wangband, penis themed

>>182316368
put a letter in front of and/or at the end of pseudoelliposchengband-r

I want to play Cataclysm DDA again, did the latest versions fix that accuracy system everyone complained about or should I beg someone to upload an older version>

>>182317671
>>182277193

>>182317671

They're arguing about how to do so right now.

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>>182318120
HERE WE ARE WITH OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE

a faint and dying beat is felt

>>182318120
Nah, it's not really arguing about solutions.
More like Kevin trying to turn it from
>the system is broken
to
>the system is broken but it's not my fault so it's OK
You don't really see him providing any alternatives, just shitting on everything proposed so far to pretend there is no solution and the status quo is fine.

live

>>182322527
死ね

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>Build a foot pedal generator
>Can't order followers to man it while I'm away

>>182324253
>still not possible to use zombie slaves for infinite power

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reminder

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a scroll made me fucking purple AAAAAH

>>182328697
Yeah IDing items makes you crazy.

>try out hellcrawl
>no stairs up
>searing ray in fire spellbook
>conjurations are gone
>stacks of 52 javelins fucking everywhere
>no blowguns
>hungry ghosts -> angry ghosts
>no ID
>no curses afaict
>+2 enchanted aux fucking everywhere
>double swords are super common
>long blades are for stabbing apparently
>Orc, Vaults, and Depths all on D:15, no branches prior to this
Not sure how I feel about all this shit.

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If this one is not sub 20k either (3 rune win), I'll be really damn mad. I still have to exit V5 though.

>>182329892
Also funny monsters in Zot, no food, stackable wand charges, ammo always mulches and some other things. I'd play it much more if it didn't get rid of the stairs completely though.

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Zot:5, I might just actually make it. The one problem are consumables: only 2 !haste, no !agi, no !might, and no !res. At least I have 2 ?summoning.

>>182331310
U got this bb.

>>182285891
Actually... this should be possible, right? But what kind of mechanics would it be based on? How would the "setting" work?

>>182316368
Tangband. Make it related to Evangelion somehow.

>>182331993
You worked hard on this one and I appreciate that, but I think I will just call it gearband actually.

>>182331758
HP is replaced by morale. If you hate /rlg/ too much, you stop browsing and "die".

Attacks are all spells, like in ToME.
Names of attacks are related to shitposts.
Every shitposter specializes in a limited set of shitposts, so this is kinda like a spellbook/ability set.

Instead of hunger clock, you are forced to attack or be attacked once in a while to ensure /rlg/ stays bumped.

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>>182286301
yes, it is an actual game. But I forgot which it is

>>182287374
are the npc interactions good? Or are they useless autists you have to babysit?

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>tfw sandwiched on D:4 between a pan lord and a seraph while berserked
should have died right there

>>182291326
as long as the cloud is opt-in I will use it. When I have to use the cloud, I'm out

>>182332178
They're useful autists you have to babysit.

>>182332210
Grats m8. That's a fast one won.

>>182316429
kek

>>182331310
scarf? When were they added?

>>182332237
shame

>>182332585
0.20, cloak slot, no AC, can't be enchanted, can be guardian spirit, repel missiles, cloud immunity or {rF+ rC+}

>>182265725
>>182265671
not sure about personalities but, cataclysm dda has a really nice sandbox

>>182332083
What's it going to be about?

>>182333850
Killing dudes and getting gear and diving deeper until you can kill the master dude and get the ring of power, the ultimate in gear.
100% Gear based progression, no xls, xp, town, or shops. Will have crafting of some sort so you can choose some of your gear.

>>182333850
The name obviously suggests grinding for equipment.
So like all *bands.

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>Be stealthy rogue in forays
>true to lure pack of rats in better position
>Stone golem around the corner
>60 hp tank and 5 fucking rats all damaging me at once
>Glad I took "feel no pain" over a spell
>quaff potions and pray to RNGesus
>Potion of haste
>I already wasted my rest
>No I'm trapped in this room with a stone golem and 5 fucking rats waiting and no combat spells
>Having nothing ID'd yet and am slimed, so item use will depend super hard on luck (see inventory in first reply

How do I maximize his chances of surviving? The orbs are probably combat ones, as I identified some shitty ones already.

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>>182335586
inventory

>>182335671
>>182335586
You're fucked.
But try any of the un-ided scrolls.

Next time pick the deflection ability if you want to get surrounded.

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I always feel like a dumbass while training triple school spells, but the payoff is so sweet.

D E D

Any good roguelikes for an iPad? It's type 2, I think. Brogue exists when I hit start, and the rest is not free in the AppStore from the Recommended Games List. They are not expensive, but I rather not pay for them if they fail to start like Brogue.

>>182341410
Pixel Dungeon is pretty okay.
Hoplite is very fun, but desperately lacking in content.

If you're also looking for roguelites, I think you can play FTL on iPad too.

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Anyone know what's going on?
It's "just" 4 tons, 2 large electronic motors should be able to handle it.

>>182341410
DCSS over web? alternatively get an ssh client app, many roguelikes have ssh servers

I had everything and still died in fucking Zot as a MiBe
Why am I so awful at this

>>182335865
one of the scrolls was scroll of knowledge. So I could use the orb of teleportation to get out of there
was lucky this time, next time I just care to not get surrounded like a retard

>>182337912
did this fucker actually survive the shitty lair? going for extended with him?

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*Takes a step*