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>>182088773
kek

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>>182089661
>every dcs module

>>182089865
Is CA worth to buy?

>>182090661
wait for caucasus 2.0

Is there anything to do in this shitty DCS? All there is, is just hype, 10 year waiting for something good, same servers, same shit over same shit

Since we're reveling in /simg/ nostalgia, here is a good moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGFIIoBicZc

Could /simg/ suggest a movie to watch apart top gun? I've seen it

>>182092152
Les chevaliers du ciel or sky fighters is basically French top gun

I enjoyed it and it made me have a crush on the mirage

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>>182094761

>>182093176
Thanks

>>182095993
$30 Kuznetsov pack

>>182096116
POSTING RIGHTS REVOKED

>>182096116
Reinstall your attitude.

Imagine if one /vg/ mod is from ED,and can match IPs to ED and revoke rights

>>182097521
Grozny?

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>>182098627
Yup

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Someone tell me what are the odds of us getting a SABOW T-72 DLC expansion about the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait? It seems like a perfect scenario or an expansion since cheiftain assets would be re-used (and hopefully also be made playable)

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>>182100209
Su-25BM not 27 fug

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>>182100565
I could post and post, but I'm just ruining the image limit
Last one

>>182101169
What the hell

>>182101169
kek

>>182101169
>G48,4
>Still alive
F-15C pilot right there

>>182101169
>G48
>Mach 6

We found superman

>>182101490
Mig-25 pilot from BMS.

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>>182101169
What is this on their all tails? Is it something radar related or?

>>182104501
Hidden 73

>>182104735
How does one get VIP access to hidden 73?

>>182104735
HEH
SHLEM

>>182104879
What did he mean by this

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>>182104501
Benis (Female)

>>182104501
chute

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>>182106303
But su-33 has same thing and it has no chute

>>182106427
spare parts :)))))))))))))))

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next up in hexgame, the (almost) entire east german helicopter inventory circa 1990

>>182106998
Seems like they loved hinds

>>182108262
T H I C C

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>>182108707
Russianplanes.net has some neat pics
Sponsored by www.Russianplanes.net

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>>182111531
>>182111301
Can't see any difference

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQU9bSvKNVA
Sukhoi PFM when

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>>182111803
>>182111531

You know, if this really is a picture of the kuznetsov, it's desperately in need of a power plant replacement, holy shit.

>>182112565
look at the good side, if you're above clouds or it's foggy, and you need to know carrier location, you just look for a smoke

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>>182112565
>>182112721
>they fell for cockhole propaganda

>>182114914
This truly is a Man-made exception.
Anyone could see the separation, anyone could appreciate it. But it definitely need another mind to explain in detail why.
Cut it into two equal parts and what you get is the definitive separation between man and woman : intelligence and wisdom, purpose and safety, intent and acceptance, stupidity and grace.
Assemble it into one and what you have is not a perfect beast, but a true organism, not thorough but enough, not fulfilled but entire.

Previous philosophers would have classified human behavior and determination in categories. Huxley tells us that one of those is the tripartite definition between visceral, somatic and cerebral. Though he as a point, the Su-35 tells us a much more important definition, in the fuel towards perfection, that the triangle of being is nothing without the will to try perfection, and that when that which might be is reached, it is but a fleeting dream, a childish wonder for us to grasp even further.

Please and thank you.

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>>182104501
Flanker expert here with the hot answers:
-The three antennas on top is the IFF
-The white parts on both side of the "sting" is the SPO(RWR) receivers
-The cap on the end of obviously the parachute storage.
-The "sting" also carries the flares

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>>182120332
>mfw a Mi-24 flipped my tank after a rocket run

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>mfw comfy CAS sorties
>mfw muh air superiority
>mfw generals care about me

>>182092152
more /subg/, but Hunt for Red October is pretty much mandatory for subs

>>182122604
That and Das Boot

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ded

How do I enable radar overlay on the mirage?

>>182127086
[it aint me intensifies]

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>>182101169

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>shot a tank that was loaded with troops on its back

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>result

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>>182133270
BMPs are gods in this game because when ever i try to cross the river i get hit by at least 2 ATGMs

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>>182133469
>wasting precious expensive SABOT against BMP when you have HEAT
Why nigga? the SABOT just flies through the thing because of how soft it's "armor" is (although if this game had realistic physics that on its own would be enough to asphyxiate or contuse the crew)

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>>182133614
I had just taken out 3 M60s and 1 T-55, so i wanted to be the first and only shot if i ran into more

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from last thread, as someone asked for a screencap

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>>182134326
some of the best stuff written in /simg/
Someone needs to post this every thread
Also why is it impsosible to find photos of Iraqi MIG-25 in flight

>>182134326
>mig-25 in DCS never
Is there a game where i can pilot that thing and out-run missiles ?

>play WT
>overspeed
>wing explodes
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((simulation))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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so comfy

>>182091605
>a-10 fly supress enemy AD

what

>>182137824
>over-flak the flak with brrrrrtt
sounds good

>>182138371
>MANPAD in a forest
>shilka/biriusa/tunguska
>anything really
You know, despite being well armoured a-10 have very low chance for survival here since its have no sealth or good countermeasures. Also it's low af. It might be superb fighting aganist talibs or ISIS with no real air defense but otherwise it will have problems.

>>182140650
I know, the idea of a A-10 supressing some AA just sounded funny to me

>>182140650
Being low is great defense, actually.
Trees stop bullets very well, unless you are in DCS.

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2 Questions about SABOW:

How do I actually request range from the commander as the gunner? The button is always grayed out for me, even after selecting a target with MMB. Sometimes I'm lucky and the commander is just randomly giving me ranges but sometimes he even assigns me targets and then just doesn't care.

Second, is there any way to reload the gun if the loader dies or do I just have to retreat at that point?

>>182137342
>su25 hcms

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Apparently the Pentagon have fired up their copy of BMS.

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What is the best Russian sub and why is it the Alfa?
Have cold waters devs mentioned multiplayer at all? I need to hunt in a wolfpack with Дa бoйз

>>182146858
I thought only murrican subs are available to play.

>>182148027
There's a mod on subsim so that you can play most of the russians, even some extra US subs.
Makes the game a bit harder since, in general, the ruskies are noisier and have worse detection

>>182135924
somebody post the gif of me outrunning harmless's missles in the vig

>>182149273
What about russian torps?

>>182150136
They're included. I'm still getting used to them so can't really comment. Feel pretty shit so far but lethal once they do get a lock

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>>182088346
da boyz are dead and they ain't coming back

>>182150732
Anyone can be ressurected with enough want

>>182118621
Thanks a bunch flanker expert

>>182127086
Damn that looks cool

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>>182135359
Try looking here https://russianplanes.net/type/Mikoyan-Gurevich/MiG-25

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>>182152741
keep telling yourself that and see how far it gets you

>>182150732
>TeeJay, Pie, Tony

>>182133937
How do you use the repair crews?

>>182143241
You can move crew members to the loader slot, Mid click and if the CMD has LOS on the target then he will try to get the range but if you are in the T-62 you can do this yourself.

>>182155861
If you look the Strat Map the repair crews should have a 1 mile area around them, and if you keep units in that area they should repair and rearm and 2x speed.

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brapbrapbrap

>>182088346
Why isn't FlightGear cited in the Flight Sims list?

Is a TrackIR kind of device necessary when playing (combat) flight sims ?
Looking at DCS and IL-2, probably try DCS first since the base game is free.

I want to get into them but I only have a Thrustmaster stick. It was good enough for Xplane10 but combat situations seem like they'd need a lot more visual awareness.

>>182158564
Not necessary but highly recommended.
Get the chink shit knock off or build your own, you wont regret it.

>>182158564
This is a common question.
It isn't needed enough that you shouldn't try DCS. I played Falcon AF quite happily without one.

But its the kind of thing that once you have it, it makes a dramatic difference. I'd rather use the keyboard than lose headtracking.

Fortunately lots of cheap options are available at a reasonable cost (DIY TrackIR type stuff, pre-built clones, the DIY Edtracker, there is also a thing for using your smartphone).

>>182158564
Highly recommended for any kind of air to air combat, though not 100% necessary.
For air to ground it makes everything easier but is not as important.

Like >>182158793 says you can build your own very cheaply if you can't afford TIR5.

>>182156873
Thanks. I thought they had to be next to the unit.

Now to stop the Iraqi armor spam.

>>182158564
It's really, really nice for combat sim. I got a 20€ knockoff because i was too lazy to make one. It's like a slightly modified playstation eyetoy or something with a piece of plastic that got 3 leds.
I'm happy with it, it works well.

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>>182158793
>>182158916
>>182159032
>>182159281
Thanks, that makes sense.
I'll take a look at all the alternatives, I'm not sure I want to commit to the price of the TrackIR yet. I'd prefer getting the game/a nice DCS plane first and start playing.

>>182159281
not him but heres what i have
>360 kinect
>lots and lots of green leds
>a couple aa batteries
Should i even bother tryin to make one from these? I could pick up some decent hardware but im lazy

>>182157604
Will do
It's hard to remember sims when you need to list them, so I include them if anyone asks if they're welcome or why they're not there.

>>182159576
Don't feel rushed into getting a plane. I have a bunch of modules for DCS, but the one I've had the most fun with lately is the free SU-25T. FC3 is also a lot of enjoyment for the money.

>>182159576
If you suck at building you can get delanjew
http://www.delanengineering.com/shop/#!/DelanClip-Gamer/p/43397050/category=0
36GBP, but like that anon said, you can build it

>>182159706
I dunno, you should check a guide, there's plenty of them

>>182160397
Forgot to tell that you can just buy this http://www.delanengineering.com/shop/#!/DelanClip-Starter/p/49740923/category=0
and buy ps3eye ebay/local shop, I got mine for 10gbp

>>182160397
That's decent price-wise, I could see myself buying this. Though it's 13gbp more for shipping world-wide. I'll have to see if there is something similar for Canada.

>>182160334
I've seen FC3 was highly recommended in this thread as a first plugin so I'd probably go for it after I test the base game. I'm just undecided between DCS and IL2 still. I love WW2 period history and mechanic, but learning to pilot a more modern jet plane also sound awesome.

>>182160397

https://www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-clip-head-tracking-kit
I've got that, it's the same as Delan but the led clip is less shitty.

>>182161465
check this
>>182161247

>>182161465
>but the led clip is less shitty.
Yeah it sucks when I'm

>>182161704
are you alright anon ?

>>182158564
Yes, it's like VR, you can't go back once you try it
If you can't afford one you can use your smartphone if it has a gyroscope
https://github.com/opentrack/opentrack/wiki/Smartphone-Headtracking

What filter do you use on opentrack everyone?

>>182161596
Looks good thanks.

>>182161247
What kind of joystick do you have? You might want to stick to WW2 if it's something very simple. If you have a HOTAS, you'd be fine with either.

>afghanistan level
>too young to die starts playing

>>182162573
FC3 doesn't need HOTAS

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How's the Viggen?

>>182157327
Look at all that bias.

How can people even play a game with such bias.

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>>182095993
SOON

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I didn't even knew it could be tail until I looked F2

>>182165543
>no tail ? who cares

>>182164720
>War loser plane loses to war winner plane

hmm

>>182169338
Plane didn't lose the war

>>182169684
No, planes won the war

>>182169757
If it wasn't for private ryan, americans wouldn't have won

>>182106998
Kinda wanna get into some hexgames, can you recommend any good free ones? (or at least ones i can steal like the shekel pincher I am.)

>>182169338
g.55 was arguably the best plane during the time.

Though technically being the me262.


hmm

>>182170585
Order Of Battle, you can get the base game for free but you can buy more battles for $11.

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Somebody shoot that captain, maybe the helmsman too

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>>182172348
Not sure a noisemaker will help in this situation

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>>182172647
So this is the power of the fastest submarine ever built
papa doesn't count

just tried some FC3 planes
Holy shit, it's like playing easy mode.
Like jesus, it's almost as if shit is flying itself.

>>182161465
>it's the same as Delan but the led clip is less shitty.

>laser cut aluminum clip with secure components
>shitty

er what?

>>182174431
Which plane?

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>>182088346
>GUYS WHAT IS ACTIVE RUNWAY
>FUCK IT, KEEP ME POSTED
>Speeds down 08 intentionally trying to go as fast as possible

>WEEEEWWWW LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE GOIN' THE WRONG WAY

These people used to piss me off so much in IL2 and Arma.
Just fucking look at the map TO SEE THE ACTIVE RUNWAY
AT LEAST TAKE TEN SECONDS TO WATCH SOMEONE TAKE OFF BEFORE YOU ROLL ONTO THE RUNWAY

The only people worse are the people who used the taxiways as runways

>>182175334
Mig-29
Just played the frogfoot and it wasn't the same. Maybe it's only the Mig-29 ?

>>182174431
I think that's why so many people fly them. I hear the F-15 in that module is ez mode supreme, which is why everyone flies it.

And here I am in my fucking fishbed saying "Ill show them, I'll show them all"

>>182175395
MiG-29 and the Su-33 still have the old arcade flight models.
Su-33 update is coming next big-ish patch and the MiG-29 update is in the works.

>>182175395
Try su-27

>>182175393
Just check the wind
Oh wait nobody online does
FUCKING RETARDS, I BET THEY DON'T EVEN FOLLOW PROPER PROCEDURES ON LANDING AND TAKEOFFS

>>182175543
> I hear the F-15 in that module is ez mode supreme, which is why everyone flies it.
This. That's why I flought su-33 but it is easy too, so I started flying su-27. Will need to get mig-21bis someday

>>182174431
>>182175610
>>182176152
And people say dcs is simulation

>>182176487
DCS: A-10C is a simulation
DCS: Black Shark 2 is a simulation
DCS: MiG-21BiS is a simulation etc etc

Flaming Cliffs 3 is an arcade game.

>>182175610
>>182175992
I see. Su-27 and F-15 are still easy as shit to fly tho.
>>182175543
Yeah, me too.

The FC3 just look like they're take off and shoot your missiles. Not much more fun than that. I could be wrong tho.

>>182176708
You need to learn the dark arts of the M I G 2 9

>>182176592
>Flaming Cliffs 3 is an arcade game.
it is.

>>182176592
>>182176874
So guys, you're trying to say that online, there's people playing FC3 planes against regular sim planes. And everyone is fine with this ?

>>182177010
Well yes, because otherwise the only plane you have for air to air is M2K

>>182177010
not enough full module planes to have a server to their own.
Only ones are either WW2, korean or cold war.

Hopefully later when we have the F-18, F-14 and the two chinese aircraft by the literallywhos we can have a proper modern combat server with no FC3 allowed.

>>182177085
Yeah more like, i'm kinda astounded that people use FC3 and are saying that they play a sim.
I mean it's ok, it may be good for a start, but this shit looks too sloppy to be called a real sim.

>>182177010
"Okay" isn't exactly the word.
People are content with it, because everyone online can also pick up a bullshit plane, too.

Also, the modules being simulations have advantages which the arcadey planes don't have.

>>182177386
>but this shit looks too sloppy to be called a real sim.

You know these aircraft aren't hard to fly irl right? They are modern combat aircraft, they are designed to fly well.

Go play BMS or the Mirage, I bet you'll moan that they are 'on-rails' or 'too easy' despite the fact that they are FBW aircraft

Kind of new to this FC3 vs DCS thing, I gotta ask.
Is it possible for something like a Mig21bis to kill an F15 in multiplayer? Like genuine skill overtaking ease of use.

I heard the Mig21bis' ER missiles were really good at the 10-20 NM range. As in close to 90% kill rate without countermeasures. Could a pilot fly low, pop up, and get kills that way in multiplayer or do they pretty much have to play a more modern fighter in order to score anything?

>>182177593
>BMS
You do know that the game is made to be on rails right?

>>182178013
>I heard the Mig21bis' ER missiles were really good at the 10-20 NM range
nigga the radar can't get a lock at that distance, let alone fire a missile.

>>182177593
I know that they ARE easy to fly. But still, it's just that if i can't play with all the systems of the plane or at least a good portion, why should i even bother ? Yeah the flying characteristics are realistics for most of it, but it's still a good part of the fun took off to me.

>>182178154
I see, would said pilot be better off closing the distance and using IR missiles in that case?

I know the Mig21 can't dogfight worth beans, but does that mean it's completely hopeless?

Hello, im new to /vg/
could anyone recommend a space sim game similar to Freelancer, with focus on exploration and trading rather than pure combat?

>>182178592
I was playing Ops last week and i could only get locks from about 5 miles, and all the shots i took went dumb off the rails. But thats ok because thats why there is a cannon on it

>>182178592
The MiG-21 can't do anything worth beans compared to the F-15 & other 4th gen fighters. Against other 3rd gen aircraft (F-5E, Viggen) it does just fine.
The MiGs radar missiles are okay provided you can get a lock, which will be very difficult on any target remotely close to the ground unless you use fixed beam mode.

MiG works best in an ambush situation, popping up out of the mountains and ambushing targets from below. Though this method requires heavy visual scanning, GCI support, or a buddy in a jet with a better radar calling targets for you.

>>182178782
Elite Dangerous

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>>182178592
>>182179025
As in this now ancient webm.

>>182179285
THE
ABSOLUTE
MIGMAN

>>182179285
I'm amazed that missile hit at that angle

>>182179586
The second pair of missiles, fired at the extreme angle, didn't hit.

>>182179285
Why are they basically non-maneuvering despite the fact they are being locked onto and being shot at?

If you remove FC3, it means no more MiG-29 and Su-27, which are the only aircraft in the game that make sense to have fighting the wave of NATO full fidelity modules on their way.

Those two planes will never EVER be full fidelity, and neither will any other comparable russian/soviet plane. So unless you want F-18's, F-14's and M2K's fighting F-18's, F-14's and M2K's for the next 5 years, they are staying.

Even though their systems are simplified, their flight models are full fidelity-tier, and they remain the most realistic simulations of those aircraft available anywhere.

>>182180029
Are we ever going to get 4th gen Russian aircraft or would Putin annihilate ED if they tried?

>>182179028
Thanks, going to look at it

>>182178013
There is cold war server where opfor has mig-21bis and blufor is f-5e
and viggen to blufor I think

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>>182180424
>or would Putin annihilate ED if they tried?
Ihat's the reason they canceled their 4.5 gen Russian fighter module yes.

>>182179740
Well, they will not receive warnings from IR missiles

>>182181008
Those were radar missiles, you can see the lock.

>>182180803
That blows, could they make variants instead or are they going to chinkshit?

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>>182181372
>could they make variants instead
Unlikely, the Russian government doesn't care about excuses like 'it's ACHSHUALLY a MiG-29G'

Fucking hell the Mig-21 tuto sucks
It's like they half-assed something for the sake of it

>>182181670
nigga what? Its one of the best in the game. If you think its bad then good luck on the tutorial for literally any other plane outside the A-10 and Ka-50

>>182181670
I don't like the startup, but everything else is straight forward.

I appreciate the jokes, but not while I'm trying to fumble through switches and memorize everything.

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Never forget: ED was literally working on an SU-27SM before Russia personally told them to fuck off.

We would have had:
>Su-27 that is fully multirole
>R-77 capability
>laser guided bombs
>TV guided fire and forget anti-tank missiles
>anti-radar missiles
>fully modern navigation system

We would have had super complex, deep, and capable module that would be able to fight just about anything NATO that was added to the game. FC3 would have been all but left behind for good because the applicable full fidelity modules would exist for both sides.

I would literally never need another module. Just fucking end me. I want to die everytime i think about it.

>>182182216
(((((((((

>>182182216
imagine all the cool things you could make if ed wasnt russian

>>182182216
Fuck.
Could we get the Chinese equivalent sometime in the future?

>>182182216
What's stopping a third party from making one of these modules and everyone just adopting it?

>>182181208
That and they were fired directly into the sun.

>>182182921
ED is russian so i doubt they'd approve.
Someone tried to so a MIG-23 mod and apparently it got shutdown by ED.

>>182182921
Because ED is the publisher and Russia has them by the balls.

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You can argue all the way you want, but ka-50 is da best in dcs

>>182183915
That's supposedly because the MiG-23 is already reserved by someone.

>>182170585
Not quite wargame I guess, but if you're fine with a Battle Isle style game ASC is pretty rad
http://www.asc-hq.org/

>>182178782
this
>>182179028

>>182180803
Didn't they pull that reason from their ass and make american modules instead to earn more?

>>182184219
probably VEAO
That would explain why nobody has heard anything about it

>>182184219
>Announce the MIG-23
>Get shutdown by ED immediately

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Lo and behold, morning!

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Mr. Masoud enjoying himself as usual

>>182185046
>>182185210
>Just hanging out with tank buddies

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We entrench around the roads on the perimeter surrounding the enemy's beachead on Al-Yalhaniah Island

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This personnel carrier screams for help on comms after being forced off the road by enemy infantry up the road

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we position on the road and an enemy tank shows itself, but veers off the road after taking a hit

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a sad day lads, Mr. Masoud drives up to inspect the road but doesn't live to regret it

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Farewell old chap, it's been an honor.

>>182184759
I doubt it. A big portion of the DCS playerbase is Russians. Every single Russian DCS player would buy the SU-27SM, and so would a good portion of westerners.

>>182186395
>>182186173
F

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I want DCS to get a Rafale.

>>182184802
It's not British so they won't touch it

>>182186817
>>182180803
I had another question, what if made mock-up planes instead of basing them off real fighters? Would that lose the appeal for most people?

>>182186395
RIP in peace

>>182186817
Russians pay a lot less for modules. Especially now with the ruble's value being low as it, it's much more profitable to make modules that westerns are gonna buy.

>>182187408
>yf-23

Stuff like that would be really fun.

>>182188462
I want that.

>>182187408
But anon
>DCS is simulation
>We need only realistic modules
>No modules can be better than F-15C

>>182188462
>>182188927
not 23, but they're dong yf-17 thunder
facebook com/dekaironworksims/

>>182145669
Would've been funnier if they used F-86's and B-29's

>>182189096
>Turning to chinkshit to fill the 4th generation fighter gap
>Soon most of /simg/ will be CHINA NEW EMPIRE

>>182189350
China will grow larger

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>>182185210
>>182185046
What game is this? I'd be interested in an alternative to War Thunder tanks.

>>182164778
Riders on the storm

>>182189997
SABOW
Steel Armo(u)r: Blaze Of War

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>it's a "sink the resupply ships" mission
>sink escorts
>go to 50ft to spot and missile the tender
>sink tender
>surprise Krivak
>torpedo in the water
>torpedo in the water
>TMA updates the Krivak 10 KYD closer to me
>snapshot tube one, bearing [Krivak] active homing, range to enable: 2 KYD
>dodge one torpedo
>second torpedo hits me right in the crew compartments
>instant death
>Goodnight_sweet_prince.jpg
>Snapshot torpedo turns around and acquires metal coffin
Even in death I lose on my own terms
Lose the war because NATO lost one measly attack sub

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>>182187408
Make up planes? No.
Prototypes that might have not been in widescale service? Yes.

There was only like 12 or something Ka-50's made. They tested them in Chechnya, said these are LIT, and immediately began working on the Ka-52. But we still got the Ka-50 in DCS and that's sick.

A MiG-29M would be another dream module. A full fidelity, fully multirole, modernized Fulcrum.

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>>182194618
>tfw this module would literally save DCS for fans of redfor/opfor

(((((((((((((

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spamramski

I'm in love with this livery. Looks so good.

>>182186395
>>182186173
NOOOOO

>>182195264
Yeah the green really meshes well

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>mfw MiG-29 PFM in my lifetime

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They should have added this livery too

>>182197907
Would rather have it before the su33 tbqh but as long as it gets done its all good

>>182182216
>ED would've gotten off their asses and made a module

ahahaha keep believing that

>>182192228
>win war singlehandely as a sub
I love it

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>>182194618
Wasn't Ka-50 made for ka-50 pilots?

>>182199548
?

ED has made the A-10C, KA-50, and the L-39, all of which are absolutely top tier quality.

It takes them forever and ever, but when it comes out its usually good. The F-18 will be the same way I'm sure.

>>182199825
I've heard rumors that Kamov asked them to make it, just like the USAF did with the A-10, but it doesn't really make sense. Why make a sim for a heli that you aren't going to make more than 12 of?

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Mi-28 module when?

>>182199946
Maybe for that same 12 of reason? To reduce air hours, maintenance cost, reduce chances of crash? It's only 12 of them, I bet maintenance of them costs more, because limited supply, but I can be wrong.

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>>182200298
(((Sekrit)))

Steel Fury on Mius Fronts engine when?

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>>182200298
>>182200497
Wasn't mi-28 created in competition of ka-50 btw?

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>>182200298

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>>182201320
A Hind is fine too, nothing sekrit about that is there?

Is the SU-33 update scheduled coming to steam DCS or just standalone?

>>182202034
It's far away. Why you still use steam when you can convert keys to stand-alone?

>>182202196
I actually just started. I use steam because it's easy and no other reason.

>>182202284
Tip: Don't buy mirage and newer(mirage only for now) on steam because you can't port it to stand-alone.
Why everyone uses stand-alone is because it takes a looong time for stand-alone modules to go on steam. For example AJS-37 Viggen, it's released since january, and still not on steam. Nevada map is over 1 year long I believe and it's still not on steam.

>>182202613
Not him but i'm in the same boat I only have FC3 atm so I guess I should transfer now before I start buying modules in the future

>>182202794
Yeah, I suggest to.
It's okay to buy modules on steam, but just convert them to stand-alone if you see yourself in future of getting modules. + if you buy module on steam, and play it on stand-alone and in 2 weeks decide to refund it, you fully can.

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>>182202923
Neat, yeah fuck steam install i'd rather have the newest most up-to-date client

>>182203229
Steam caucasus gets updated same as stand-alone, but 2.0 isn't even on steam(Nevada and Normandy(Both maps need to be bought)). And like I said, you're missing new modules and etc. For example if you get mirage and feel the need for viggen or upcomming f/a-18, you're not getting it on steam for a long time, so you can't play mirage and f/a-18/viggen on same game copy

Hi is Elite Dangerous a non-welcome sim?

Asking for a friend.

>>182203549
That''s fine I don't have any friends through steam that play anyway.

Should I download the open beta or regular 1.5 launcher? any difference?

>>182202923
>>182202613
Thanks, I'll do that. I have FC3 and F5-E, but I'll convert them to standalone.

So I just started with the F5 module and the Mig21bis module.

I love the Mig-21, I hate the F5. Am I in the wrong? The Mig-21 feels so much easier and more straightforward.

>>182203987
regural 1.5 launcher
Open beta is upcomming 1.5.7 update+has experimental UI and stuff. I noticed that it has different lighting(very bright bloom at horizon). Not a big difference, just that open beta has most servers empty and few people on.

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>>182204370
Good stuff, thanks for the answers my man.

>>182204137
Sweet, you won't need steam if it's only game you play on steam

>>182204541
Happy to help to fellow /simg/ers

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>>182204310
MИГ is godsplane

>>182205113
That's sad.

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>>182205113

>>182200648
You know, I'm surprised ED didn't permanently pull the contracts after they had the nerve to bitch about ED's business practice on social media.

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>>182205420

>>182203862
I wouldn't mind it being here because any talk of it gets shot down in sc/edg.

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>>182205371
I'm sure it had nice and fun youth years

>>182205947
That's not true, light shit-talk maybe.

>>182203862
I wouldn't mind too, I know a lot of simmers who play ED. We don't get much new content here anyway, besides sabowman, cmanoman and hexaman(love you all)

>>182206457
Forgot to mention coldwatersman

>>182205598
At end of the day, it's better for DCS to have a somewhat lower quality module than one less module. Although they did get a warning from ED after the hawk release.

>>182206884
Noone buys hawk anyway, so nothing of a value is lost

>>182206457
>>182205947
I only asked because there's no sc/edg thread.

I haven't played ED in over a year, there seems to have been a fair bit of content added and what everyone's take on the game is now?

>>182207157
I was thinking getting into it, but I got in dcs. Isn't everyone hyped for """"soon"""" star citizen?

>>182207157
I loved from the start mostly because i played the games that came before it, but they have added alot of stuff to help out new players or people who don't have much time to play such as the communtiy goals.

Horizons hads some mid to end game shit like weapon and ship modding which makes you OP as fuck when facing anyone who doesn't stick to meta builds.

>>182204310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D9T8Q7CKlw

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Searching for isolated Iranian troops behind our lines

>>182207157

CIG keeps delaying shit so rather than letting the threads stagnate into the usual shitposting and speculation; best to just let the threads die off for some time until anything new crops up.

Really wish those ukies would focus on SABOW and pump out some more content/modules rather than focus on mius front etc. Chieftain would be beast also T-72 and whatnot. Maybe one day.

>>182208062
>>182208485
Do they still update the game?

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>>182208934
last update was 1-3 months ago
They update every while, and dev said a while ago they plan to update the whole engine soon

>>182209135
>they plan to update the whole engine soon
Oh damn, I hope it's true
So I guess it's better to buy the game instead of pirating old version
Too bad I missed the sale

>>182209135
Is Basra DLC worth it?

>>182209417
Yes

>>182209426
Thanks

Wasn't there supposed to be a hornet video this weekend?

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>>182209225
You should support them
They are decent devs who keep pumping out conent they know won't sell much, doesn't sale much, doesn't cater to the masses' taste, just because they like to create what they like.

>>182209417
If you like the game, fuck yes. It's 3-days (10 turns) but there isn't alot of tank fighting (not much tanks) but there are hundreds of infantry.

>>182209697
I like altidude of devs like that, will need to pick it up for full price

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>>182209956

>>182181670
The part I hate about the 21 Tuto is that all of the 'return to this position' objectives seem to be buggy at best.

The taxiing tuto I remember being so frustrating because "Return to where you started" doesn't actually complete if you go to the exact place in the exact way that you started out. You have to go something like twenty meters away from where you started in order for it to complete.

The landing tut is the same way. I remember it saying "Return to where all the other tutorials were." How the fuck was I supposed to know where that was? It was a featureless gray pad with some planes on it that weren't there in the subsequent tutorials. Taxiing in circles around the airbase wasn't what I expected out of the landing tutorial.

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THAT GUY TRIED TO SHOOT AN RPG AT ME

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>mfw ran into a platoon making a rush over no mans land

>>182210905
What tank are you in? Didn't knew they had thermals in those old things

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>>182210905
Something similar happened to me today
But they were all retreating along the road
>>182211061
>thermals

>>182211167
I'm technological noob, sorry
It's night vision? Why are people so white then?

>>182211061
>>182211341
T-62 with mine losing its NV lamp after shells from a BMP knocked them off, which you can see i had to have other tanks in my platoon paint the area for me

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>>182211701
Is this the lamp?

>>182212291
Yes

>>182212467
Thanks

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>>182211341
Two crude means of night vision
Either passive light-intensification or active infrared channel (pic-related)
>>182212291
The other Luna spotlight on the commander's cupola is also used at night

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>>182212809
normal light intensification provides optimal vision of tank-sized targets up to 400 meters away at very dim conditions (moonless, cloudy night). IR can reveal tank-sized targets up to 800-1000 meters away (maybe more if the enemy tank has its own searchlights turned on)

>>182212809
forgot to add;
The reason people are white in that webm is because IR is being reflected off them and picked up by the tanks' optics.

>>182212809
>>182213365
>>182213724
Thanks again sabowman

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>>182213918
I'm a different sabowman but you're welcome

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Now for the ultimate question
Which one is better??

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>>182214567
M60
T-62 a shit

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>>182214567
yah boi

>>182214567
Depends if you are fighting at max range with little need to move then its the M60 because of its rangefinder and large ammo rack, if you need to keep up with troops or make a fast attack then it would be the T-62 with its stabilizer and almost lazer like APDS.

>>182214925
>wanting to get instantly-blown up inside slavshit the second anything enters the turret

>>182215086
>muh m69
>muh amerigan eguibment good rebutashon