/palg/ - Paladins General

I want to be the object of Fernando's affection!

>>181979494
Kill yourself.

>>181978705
>Swift Jade IV with Alacrity allows a RMB-Grace-RMB combo that deals 1200 aoe damage to two or more people, also applying caut, on a pretty low cooldown. I think it has potential
Can someone test this? I think we are severely underrating her, she can make a mess in open maps with this build and dominate corridors with the Q one

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This is Ying.
She is my wife.

Well how about that, last thread was finished mighty quickly. I guess a new princess champion can do that for discussion.
But fret not, as I have no need for princesses, because Ying is already perfect just as she is! My love for her transcends any barrier, and that won't change as long as I have breath in me.

>>181979473
I find it really weird they don't have their press site updated with Lian. They've got to be one of the slowest in the industry on that shit.

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>>181979494
Glad to have you back here with us Fernandoposter.
>>181979567
Kill yourself.

>there's a lot of shit that will still near instantly put guys like Zen in the grave.
Got a Mercy boosted Helix rocket to the face and died instantly today. Very fun.

>>181979617
I wonder what her dick after a fight smells like haha.

>>181979675
Said it before and gonna say it again: Lian's Ult charge is retardedly fast. You literally get 2% charge per rifle shot, and you get refunded 50% of your ult charge if you can kill someone with your 1.6k damage ult.

>>181979726
Zen's had a hard life period. Back when Widow could 100% him from a charged bodyshot I felt like I was daydreaming or something with how often it happened and how baffled I was that something like this had made it through god knows how much testing.

>>181979952
>testing
lol

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>Tfw getting this combo cost 36,750 gold

Are the patch note out yet

>>181979704
Hey just letting you know, I'm planning on impregnating ying, hope thats cool with you

>>181980065
How much is that in crystals, cause Tryhard values gonna be huge now.

>>181980065
>buy our radiant chests goy
>and don't forget to enchant your keys!

>>181980065
it's more rewarding, anon
;^]

>>181980065
One thing you can't say about this game is that it doesn't make your dick diamond

>>181980171
I can say that because I'm not 12 years old

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>>181980065
The fucking green recolor looks half finished. Why the fuck would they leave the arms/legs purple?

>>181980128
150 but you only get 35 per week now

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Lian is pretty and all of that, but her cards' art doesn't suit her imo.

>>181980128
125

>>181980010
Oh they had testing, I participated in it at least a little friends and family access, they just didn't actually process jack shit that anyone noted might be a big deal I guess.

Hi-rez should just mix and match skills from other games like they used to if this is all they can come up with

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>>181980106
No you won't.
Stop talking nonsense.

>>181980340
>Pseudo-chinese as hell
>All this not-yurop art in her cards

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>>181979473
>>181976419
>>181976112
Jesus Christ. Can we get a plebbit thread and spam it everywhere about these. They're just bumping the prices higher and higher and will keep doing it until people call them out on this bullshit and plebbit is the only place they look at for feedback.

>>181980460
I'm still kinda hyped for Astro desu.

>>181980560
They already took the stance of defending it because hi-rez now gives people 1 chest worth of essence for free every week!

>>181979301
from the top then stuff that can kill a 200hp hero in overwatch
tracer bomb
genji sword
mcree ult
doomfist charge dash
junkrat ult
hanzo charge shot if you headshot
hanzo scatter arrow
widow charge shot if you headshot
rein charge
hog shot (though maybe not after the nerf)
dva ult
mercy enables a lot of oneshot combos
possibly zen's charge shot if you headshot (if you can)

stuff that can oneshot a 2500hp champ in paladins
dragon punch
skye ult
zhin ult (definitely with leggo, maybe without)

am I missing anything?
I'm deliberatly not including ring outs. I'll confess I was a bit too harsh on overwatch butthe disparity is still massive especialy considering theres so much in overwatch that'll put you at almost dead in one go, so if we were to list the number of twoshot skills in the game the disparity would be comical

>>181980560
Actually, now that I think on it, they just about doubled the gold prices for things. Like, almost straight up doubled.
Do you think they did it on purpose so that when they "lower" the price down to 15k people won't remember they used to be for 12.5k?

I guess i'm just gonna play fernando everyday after the patch

>>181980560
Jesus fucking Christ.

>>181980730
Zhin's ult without the legendary tops out at around 1600 or so, I think, and applies knockback.

Reminder that new champions now cost 12k gold, and old ones now cost 7k gold

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>>181980536
why not, she's literally made for breeding with

>>181980730
The second fucking item in your list is wrong. I'm not even going to bother with this shit.

I really like the feel of Lian's gun. She seems like a good champ.

>>181980880
Zhin's ult does 2k and you can try and land a skillshot or a whirl for another 400.

>>181980880
ahh so you NEED the leggo to kill
>>181980936
genji ult deals 200 damage per hit what are you on

>>181980936
>1 item is wrong means the whole thing is wrong
I'm not that anon but your argument has problems.

>>181980936
Pretty sure he meant the ult, not the dash.
>>181981039
Really? I've seen it not kill someone at 1800 hp, though.

>>181981103
Either he got healed, or he brought haven. It's still hands down the worst ult in the game.

>>181979301
>>181980936
lol

>>181980936
rip him

>>181981082
it does 120 lol

>>181981082
>>181981103
Dragonblade deals 120 damage, not 200.

>>181980560
I don't care. Cosmetics are optional and doesn't affect gameplay.

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>>181980560
Don't forget about this :)

>>181981275
>>181981352
Fair enough. But that does only strike one thing from the list.

>>181981275
I swear it did 200 at one point, havent played the wretched game in six months
the rest of my points are valid though.
the ttk in overwatch is tiny compared to paladins

>>181980913
Stop your claims this instant and don't try to defame her with your fabricated images.
I'm not gonna let you get close to my girl.

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>>181981382
I agree go- I mean guy! We should even let them hike it up to 200 crystals and 100k gold for changing the hue of a weapon!

>>181979473
I don't think many realised this, but Lian has a built-in 50% cauterize for her Q. Combine that with Heraldry 4 and Eminence 4 and you can inflict 50% Cauterize every 5 seconds.

>>181978345

I can't believe they didn't make Tremors uncancellable for the CD reduction or make the reduction scale with remaining health. You can literally build walls every 2 seconds so long as you remember to cancel them just before they get busted down. I can walls for Trump and every other nation on earth with the rate I'm spamming it, Inara's now S+++ tier until they fix that

>>181981580
But she likes it when I get close to her.

>>181981628
You would be surprised at how often I find myself in that vacuum, Anon.

>>181981675
Holy fucking shit has it been tested? Are you sure canceling it doesn't start the normal cooldown?

>>181981675
And I thought cancelling the wall messes with the legendary. They need to address this quickly. This is just like Barrier Reef 4 with Half Shell again, this time with only 1 legendary needed.
At least Dreamhack's gonna be on OB52.

>every fucking PTS game has flanknando and wall spamming inara

I told you people this patch would be unplayable garbage

>>181981723
That's because you're lonely. Stop fucking your vacuum and buy a meiki like a normal person.

>>181981675
If this were any other company I'd be surprised if that made it off the PTS, but it's hi-rez so I expect it'll be on the live server for at least 2 weeks.

>>181981675
Do you have to have a certain legendary/card setup? I want to test this.

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aegis is still probably better when it comes to utility but scorch sounds really damn tempting with the base cd reduction on fireball + incinerate/fearless leader/chronos

decisions decisions

lian is fun as fuck to play
first two games with her got over 100k dmg

God, I haven't played Inara in such a long time that slow when you fire feels sooo fucking bad

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>>181981715
I'm not responding to your lies anymore after this.
Good bye.

>>181982202
b-but she's so basic.

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>>181982035
>tfw I run Formidable because I can't trust my supports

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I hope they fix this portrait. The lighting looks terrible.

>>181982334
last stand > formidable

>>181981805
>>181981824
>>181981985
All you need is the Tremors Legendary, enjoy your 2 sec cooldown so long as you baby sit your wall. Too bad Chronos can't reduce it to 0 though.

>autistic tank mains actually memed at hi-rez hard enough to make fernando OP again

>>181979704
Ying nerfs when? She does too much damage and can heal herself with her illusions.

>>181981597
If you don't have at least a few hundred thousand gold already I don't know wtf you're doing with your gold.

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boring

>>181982745
Yeah, but I didn't pick it before so whatever.

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>>181982035
I will probably stick to aegis, just so I can put my shield up in case of KNEEL.

>>181982828
>so I can put my shield up in case of KNEEL.
I have some bad news, anon

>>181982879
didn't they mention that her ultimate doesn't go past shields? or am i misremembering something

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>>181980154
>>181980065
Skins are nothing special when every f2p pleb can unlock them with no effort.

>>181983360
The ingame description explicitly states that it goes through shields, and I can confirm it does.
It would be fucking useless otherwise.

>>181983546
I wonder who's behind this post.

>>181983546
Hi martini, why are your balance patches so bad? It's cool that you get some bugs fixed sometimes though I guess

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Why has nobody talked about Ash yet? It literally auto-detonate the moment someone's in range. The new shield is great as well. This patch is Frontline/Support haven.
>>181982634
Post me a Fernando loadout.

>>181983914
This should have been her default shield.

>>181983657
Liar. Also, there is nothing about that in description.
https://youtu.be/DivcDrTtwh8?t=3971

http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?47555-Open-Beta-54-Patch-Notes-July-12-2017

Lian might seems week but the fact that literally every single one of her skills deal damage helps a lot.

>>181984074
Yeah I'm retarded, it says "goes through enemies" not shields
I could swear I killed the same fernando like 3 times through his shield with it in the same match to the point where I was just saving it for him, but maybe I just hit beside the shield or something like that

>>181983914
>This patch is Frontline/Support haven.
Good, I'm a Barik main and I'd like to play more this patch.

>>181983914
So now it's just Nando's shield on wheels.

>>181984396
the tinkerin leggo is actualy pretty good, it has some falloff but not too bad, say one and a half rocket boosts before you start to lose damage

Is dreamhack going to be played on ob53 or 54?

>>181984632
52

>>181984203
List of shits not mentioned on stream:

Match Lobby improvements:
Added ability to purchase and equip Collections
Added preview of map selection
Added new Acquisition notifications to Activity Center like Realm Pack and awarded Chests.
Added Filter by Champion in the Store.
Added new setting Toggle Zoom in Options > Gameplay for Iron Sights (Viktor) & Scope (Kinessa) to be toggled instead of held.
Fixed Draft Mode match lobby where other players selecting Champions would close your Champion view after locking in.

General
Players will now be able to earn match rewards from Training matches past account level 13
Onslaught
Teams will now gain additional respawn time based on how far ahead in tickets they are

Announcer Packs
Drybear
Price increase from 1 Gold to 200 Crystals

Test Queue rotation
Tilted (Onslaught)

Weekly Quest Reward Increases and Addition of Essence
Cry Havok!
Now rewards 1250 Gold and requires 5 games played as a Damage champion.
Hold the Front
Now rewards 1250 Gold and requires 5 games played as a Frontline champion.
Blindsider
Now rewards 1250 Gold and requires 5 games played as a Flank champion.
Never say Die
Now rewards 1250 Gold and requires 5 games played as a Support champion.
Adventure Awaits
Now rewards 1000 Essence and requires 10 games played.
Champion
Now rewards 1000 Essence and requires winning 6 games.
Together, Indomitable
Now rewards 1000 Essence and requires winning 4 games in a party.

Common Champion Skin Price
Gold Price Increased from 9500 to 14250
Crystal Price Decreased from 75 to 50
Common Weapon Price
Gold Price Increased from 4,750 to 7,125
Crystal Price Decreased from 50 to 25
Common Voice Pack Price
Gold Price Increased from 4,750 to 7,125
Crystal Price Decreased from 50 to 25
Uncommon Champion Skin Price
Gold Price Increased from 15,000 to 22,500
Crystal Price Decreased from 100 to 75
Uncommon Weapon Price
Gold Price Increased from 9,500 to 14,250
Crystal Price Decreased from 75 to 50

I am sad about the skye changes they mentioned on thursday not showing up, I was looking forward to the chance of her not being total shit.

>>181984682
oh

guess we'll have to wait a little longer to see the ob54 3 tank meta in action

>>181983914
I still think that battering ram is still going to be better, bigger shield is nothing when Sha Lin is READYYY and there will probably be one in every match.

>>181984917
Nah. ESL next week would be a good place to watch it.

>>181984768
>Announcer Packs
>Drybear
>Price increase from 1 Gold to 200 Crystals
ahohohohoho
they did say it was a limited time offer but i am still laffin

>Androxus and Evie are finally over
>Tyra is potentially a buffbot now
>That Makoa leggo I accidentally bought when I first started playing is actually okay

seems like a pretty good patch tbqh

>>181984950
>most likely no Gankstars and D69 in the next esl
I hope that Burrito, Flashpoint and WASD will step it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDSbi58S73g&feature=youtu.be

>50% refund for ult kill stacks
Kneel.

>Together, Indomitable
>Now rewards 1000 Essence and requires winning 4 games in a party.

simply epic

>>181985186
>shooting range
Ain't shit always bugged there?

Fernando reminds me of my old Brazilian bf who was well endowed I can't play Fernando anymore without quivering because of this

>>181985250
>not saving your weekly reroll exclusively for that quest
lol

>>181985186
Would be hard to get a Double Kill. Even then, with getting 50% on just a single kill and how fast she charges ult it really doesn't matter.
>>181985361
It's actually said so on stream. If you get a Double Kill or higher with her ult you get refunded 100%.

>>181985186
real players usually arent clumped that much unless you can coordinate the ult with a seris ult

now that Reprieve is garbage and Buck is well and truly dead, is Zhin the uncontested king of sustainable flanks?

>>181985767
No, fernando is.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/6lxgxs/quick_pts_datamining_new_champions_skins/
OB54 datamining from xLaoo.
TL;DR:
-They're working on skins for Torvald, Willo, Ash, Zhin, Viktor, Lex, Maeve, Seris, Kinessa and Skye.
-There was a new chest added to the loot tables called Legendary Chest.
-Astro was renamed to Jenos.
-New Champions
-Ranked 2.0 will keep tiers but they will be broken down into divisions (similar to what LoL has). Full list in link.

>>181984768
>>181985826
Lol the Test Map is an Onslaught map. An Onslaught map is on the test queue this patch.

>>181985826
so its safe to assume individual hero borders are gonna go away if they have an entire tier system

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

>>181986051
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?47532-OB-54-PTS-Bug-Reporting-and-Known-Issues
Report it here. Should have included it in the OP.

>>181985826
Another thing: Consider Stoker and Berserker shelved for good. "Demon" (who wields an MP5) and "Survivor" will be the newest champion concepts for testing.

>>181986158
>''Demon" (who wields an MP5)

lel

>work all day for the first time in 8 months and missed first patch notes since they started doing them
>high heels
>pimp cane
>fun looking kit

my dick.

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>>181979473
The Festive Chest is pretty blatantly rigged. Don't open it if you want the Tyra/Inara set unless you're willing to shell out 1200-1300 crystals because it's 100 crystals each and you won't be getting the sets until the 11th or 12th opening, and then the weapons way at the end.

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>>181986051
Some of these new legendaries are so fucking lazy. And I love how Sha Lin and Maeve both just got better versions of what Skye has with Skye getting absolutely nothing this patch.

They're probably just going to delete Skye or make her an entirely new character. They should remove her like with Ying if so.

>>181986051
So is it 20% or 30%? Either way, 180/270 extra damage for managing to land both your knives during a fast ability with a big cooldown is NOT A MAEVE BUFF HI REZ! Even with her not being able to actually dodge anything sustained in practice despite her mobility the old one still looks better, and I still have no reason not to pick Rogue's Gambit either for utility or fun..

>>181986924
Every chest is pretty blatantly rigged. Don't open them if you want a specific item unless you're willing to shell out 1200-1300 crystals*

>>181987163
>>181986924
I got the Barik rock skin in the first roll of the armor chests, and then I stopped.
I assumed I used up all my draw luck there.

trying to come up with a good build for nando that will offer a reasonable mix of flanking and tanking now that it looks like he's just about out of the hole. how does this look:
>Aegis with Incinerate III, Last Stand III, Heat Transfer II, Launch II, Running Start II

Glad I was able to get the 50 gems from this week before the patch hit the base. now the grind will be eternal

>>181987110
iirc they said in the thursday stream that she was getting an extensive legendary rework, I guess that it wasn't ready in time

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You can pull off some nice combos with Lian. Presence is also a pretty good opener.

>Daily login bonus:
>Give 250 essence at Day 4 (instead of 350g)
>Give 500 essence at Day 5 (instead of 500g)
>Give 1,000 essence at Day 6 (instead of 15 crystals)

FUCK

damage this, damage that,do X% damage.
I's pretty clear Hi-rez don't listen to their playerbase but still, what would be some intersting legendaries? like what could be done with them to have some variety in styles?

>>181987581
those are static chars. can you make one with real players?

>Evie is no longer capable of winning 90% of her 1v1 match ups just by taking Reprieve and having two brain cells
>Evie mains are losing their collectove mind and acting as if she's worse than Skye now
>I was a Buck main

>>181987303
+1 running start, -1 Launch imo

>>181987863
You should be glad Meme House is gone. Now they'll probably actually buff him decently instead of tiptoeing around the fact that someone might pick the skill that gives him two jumps.

>>181987863
No one played buck so no one talks about him getting ruined even more.

Can't wait for Lian r34 content

>>181987746
Sure, I could try... if I could even get into a match with her. I posted that one more as as something theoretical. Should work pretty good against players as well, since there's quite a bit of autoaim going on in there.

>>181987746
I still stand by my Cat Burglar suggestion to also let you do things during Prowl. It'd be much better than whatever this is without being too much since you can still just shoot her like always.

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>pip is picked
>seris is picked
>don't pick a healer because why would we need 3?
>they do a combined 5K of healing

>>181987863
Evie's not even ruined, she's just been fundamentally changed. I think people are gonna find that the new projectile speed plus the damage bonus from over the moon plus the fact that she has no ranged falloff means Evie can wreck face, but she has to be played in a radically different way. She's not the in-your-face skirmisher with a kit full of escapes and second chances anymore. The fact that Reprieve is only okay rather than the auromatic choice should be seen as a good thing.

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>>181987303
running start and hot pursuit are a little redundant now that nando has that extra reach on his lance and he doesn't need such a heavy emphasis on having to move around as much. launch + heat transfer has pretty much got you covered anyways whenever you need to disengage or chase

here's mine. i don't have access to the PTS so i can't really properly test it out but it's basically yours minus a card change and some alterations on where you would want to spend your points on

you can decide between incinerate IV or last stand IV - depends on if you want really good sustain or going maximum overdrive on pressuring people and bullying squishies with fireball

fearless leader is filler and the only other useful card at level 1 is cavalier. depends entirely on your preference but i like the shaving off of some cd whenever i get an elimination

>>181988807
Sorry that's too mobility focused, we can't have that in nu-paladins

>>181988935
Over the moon is straight garbage though.

Reminder that looking too much on Lian's legs in combat counts as lèse-majesté.

>>181989050
This is very close to what I run, except I usually take Last Stand IV and Cavalier I, which you mentioned as alternatives. I'll probably switch to Incinerate IV in ob54 though because that new fireball is hot

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>>181988935
Wormhole is better on OB53 and it'll still be better on OB54.

>>181989107
B-But it doesn't even give her any actual additional mobility. Why didn't they rework her useless cards as well? When are they gonna give her a real buff to something relevant?

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>>181988527
Just look up Dynasty warrior R34

Wow so Ying is still fucking trash. Great stuff otherwise, but come on.

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>>181990113
Please don't be mean to Ying.

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>>181989774
Well actually it gives her additional incombat mobility that she just didn't have before and ultimately, we think that the excess of mobility is going to be a net negative for the game.

>>181990113
earnestly looking forward to ying's deletion, if we're being honest here

>>181990113
>>181990585
Sounds like you fags don't know how to Ying.

>>181979473
Is she an elf?

>>181990439
Delete this in french.

>>181991101

Seems human.

>>181990962
how to ying:
suc everyone dik

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Just played Maeve yesterday and hot damn is she fun to play.

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lol, it's just like some of the legendaries they made when ob44 first launched

>>181988451
>No one played buck
But I do

>>181988451
>>181993110
here two.

>>181992953
Wait, it's been a little while since I last played Buck, but doesn't he have cards that activate on hitting people with Heroic Leap? Surely they wouldn't forget something like that, right?

Anyone have an idea when the open beta ends? I'm trying to figure out if I can make it to level 30 before it's over.

>>181993398

There's Exhilarate-heals on hit.

>>181993990
At least until the end of 2017. You have a lot of time.

>>181993990

Probably around early 2018.

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>>181993398
He has a card that heals him when he lands on someone. To get around it they made the leap without the legendary deal damage that the enemy is immune to lol

>>181994012
Did they change it's effect? If they didn't then that would mean the card's completely useless without that legendary as well. Synergy is one thing but I can't believe they'd be ok with it losing it's function entirely without having both.
>>181994269
Oh. I mean that's still stupid that they removed the damage in the first place but I guess they at least thought of it.

>>181994065
>>181994136
Thanks anons.

Am I fucking missing something? I see all this shit about the new hero, but my game is still on 0.53

If you are the type of faggot that finds a bug on PTS but does not report it because "Hurr durr HiRez never fixes bugs anyways why bother" please just uninstall the game and go play something else.

^ look at this idiot

>>181996191
Get the PTS, silly.

>>181996191
you missed the patch preview

>>181996191
The preview was yesterday, and the new patch OB54 won't be coming to the Live server until Wednesday. If you want to try out OB54 download the PTS.

>>181996191

It's the patch preview. You'll get it next week, but if you're really impatient, you can play on the Public Test Server.

How do I buy essence with money?

>>181998305
lol

>>181998305
Buy crystals with real money -> buy a booster with the crystals -> buy radiant chest with the leftover crystals -> open radiant chest -> pray for essence

I still find weird that they didn't tone down the mobility but they deleted EVERY mobility legendary and replaced them with damage shit. I think I'm finally quitting this game.

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>>181999140
>tfw Drogoz still has his

>Players will now be able to earn match rewards from Training matches past account level 13
Kek, frogpost anon will be happy

>>181998305
>>181998495
The RNG element makes it more fun for you, goy.

>>181999140
They removed the cancerous mobility legendaries. Not sure how anyone could defend flying Maeve and BK, or Buck with two jumps for an easy escape with his already high health pool or for twice the damage from leap.

The only one that was okay was Pip's double jump (although it did seem kind of awkward and unnecessary on him), and that got replaced with CC immunity which is miles better than just being able to jump again.

^ lol

>>182001203
Flankers with ability do dive in and out from the fight? Outrageous!

My PTR luck is, (have majority from winter)

>Tyra Spray
>Evie Marrymaker (VP and 7k essence)
>Inara Spray
>Tyra Weapon
>Inara Weapon
>Tyra Skin
>Inara Skin

Don't think I'll be putting any gems into this one, Inara skin is all I would care about but the 200 throw away on sprays isn't worth it.

>>182001729
He' has the health pool and heal so that he can survive a fight until his skills are off cooldown. Bounce house was overkill and a massive crutch.

>>182001203
It was his best legendary, I'd put money on them changing it because every since that dipshit posted about the win rates on twitter everyone started running it. Miserable to deal with if the Pip knows what he is doing.

>>182001203
>Not sure how anyone could defend flying Maeve
lol someone's complaining about maeve

>>182001817
fuck, I really wish those skins aren't locked on RNG

>>182001975
>survive a fight
>overkill
He not the worst flanker because skye and maeve exist. And now they even removed his heroic leap damage because fuck him, that's why.

>>182002468
They need to just buff the other flankers without making them rely on one broken legendary. I personally think the Buck change will be a step toward that at least.

>>182001817
>>182002348
Yeah I like the Tyra and Inara skins but I'm not a fan of anything else in the chest so hi-rez won't be getting me with this one.

>>182002771
what's the crystal cost anyway

>>182002979
100 per chest, so getting the skins you want could be anywhere from one draw to ten. Or more.

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>>182002771
They're far to seasonal to actually matter, I love the Grover lights but I'm not going to use it at this time of year and most of the weapons are whatever.

Nessa beanie is best head item in the game though. Kinessa is my worst character by far but I play her on occasion for that cute thing.

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>>182002771
It was stupid of them to even release this crap now. It's fucking July and they're bringing back the Christmas chest so that they can rig it with filler shit to make people waste their crystals on for 2 skins. They could have easily just either saved the items for holiday time or release the two as standalone stuff to buy with crystals freely.

>>182003178
Christmas in July seems to be a thing, other games have been doing it.

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>Tfw play on steam and still don't have the new patch
Tried checking for updates and restarting the client, still didn't work.

>Ferocity Grover is the new bandwagon
Because doing 900 damage every 0,75s is fucking balanced for a support.

>>182003178
Ice themes are common and the player base has grown a decent amount since then so I can see why they did it. A lot of people who started in the last few months will probably clear out the chest for stuff like the snowball cannon for Makoa.

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I like the new patch. The gunplay feels more solid that it ever did and most of the legendaries changed were the least used anyway so it seems like a good thing they're pushing them in new directions to me.

>>182002979
100 with 15 different rolls I think

>>182003123
Yeah the Kinessa hat is probably the item I like the most after the Tyra and Inara skins, but it's Kinessa so It'll never see any use from me so I just kinda ignored it.

>>182003526
the PTR should update automatically assuming you still have it installed when you launch.

It isn't on Live yet

>>182003123
I don't get why people like the Kinessa hat. It doesn't match anything she has and doesn't change her hair or anything. A ski mask would've been cooler.

>>182003723
Its cute. That's it

Helps its probably the only casual clothing in the game outside the recent summer skins.

>>182003620
yikes

well I already got the kinessa beanie, makoa cannon and pip thing, so I guess that's 12 rolls

>>182003562

Eh, I don't think it's the end of the world, like some people seem to, but I will miss Acrobatics Pip.

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>tfw weekly crystals weren't even safe from the jew
>tfw tryhard doesn't work consistently enough to be worth using anymore

>>182003723
I liked it with the cutthroat and viking body piece

>>182003902
Its the sprays that are the killer. I'm all for limited time stuff but I'm not putting 100 gems into a spray I can only use for one person. They should be a part of the set/combined with the weapons or something and I've closed to cleared most chest they've added to the game. But I'm just mad I never got the Valentines day mount when it was the only thing I wanted out of the chest, got a dumbass spray and everything outside the VP for love struck though. Didn't get the Grover roses either.

fug rng

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>>182004196
Just wait until they axe the 35 drop for 2500 essence

>>182004306
>They should be a part of the set
What's funny is that during the patch preview raynday was talking about them like they were a part of the set

>>181985960
Is that so bad? They should probably test those too.

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>>182003562
you're dumb and wrong

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>all these people instalocking lian
i just want to be good with her before she comes out

>>182005190
>tfw already level 3 with her
Got on my level peasant

>>182003620
Actually if you have all Tyra and Inara's emote/poses already it's 13 roles. If you don't then those packs would have the Epic rarity so you would roll them later.

>>182005229
i'm already level 5 with her but it's not enough
i need to play more because i feel she has really good potential

I am not EU or NA so I cannot instalock her at all.
Tell me, how is she? Is she truly as week as what we were assuming?

>>181985960
You're joking right?

Test maps is all I get to play most nights, Onslaught is generally shit to play at this point since majority of games are snowballs, I've had two games that were close out of the 100s I've played where the rest are just stomps. Especially on this patch where once you're behind 50-100 points its incredibly difficult to come back, even if you get close by the end you get timed out and other team wins anyway. Last 3 test maps have been really fun, even Sewer.

>pts calls onslaught survival

>>182005438
she feels really fun, with her high burst damage shes a good 1v1er and great against low healthpool heroes, has the ability to be real aggressive with her dash if the enemy doesnt focus you down

>guy instalocks new lian
>doesn't connect, replaced by bot

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>that faggot who chooses flank IMMEDIATELY then starts begging others to go healer and tank
>ends up whining the whole match telling others how to play

>play one of the hardest games on Serra I've had in a while, lost first 3 caps but played well enough to defend/win the final point
>turns out the two top guys on the other team were hirez people and everyone on my team is creaming themselves over it

Oh. Its nice to see now all of them are shitters

>>182007793
You barely won against them so you're a shitter as well?

>>182005438
She's pretty good but not crazy good.

>>182006154
Actually in OB54 Onslaught was fixed so that the more you are ahead the longer it takes to respawn, so it would be less of a roll.

>>182008338
Is there anything that didn't get better this patch? We even have a new waifu.

>>182008479
when is it released on normal server?

>>182007920
Mean to say "not all of them are shitters". Majority of the HiRez people I run into are crap at the game.

>>182008586
They're all low elo, like Pixie orNotLex
Juju is somewhat Mid-tier along with PrettyHair

ugh people are defending the mobility legendary changes? i literally can't...

>>182008737
Vox is good and Rude had a retarded winrate but I never played against him.

>>182008762
The Evie teleport range nerf was way too much

>>182008553
Middle of next week.

>>182009687
Not really, something needed to happen on that blink with the way her projectile is now, either range nerf or her blink CD being double. 'm someone who was pretty meh at Evie in the past but this patch I've had a 100% win rate with her due to just how free her kit is.

Now you can't just go full retard and live even if you put yourself in a terrible situation.

>>182010640
But Evie was only fun because she was horribly, horribly broken!

Anyone tried Tinkerin Barik? I thought I would like it but I really don't.

>>182011263
It's probably only good when you're being bullied by snipers and your team won't do anything.

>>182010640
Should've reverted the projectile speed. With her movement options and blink, she could easily get close enough to land her shots on most people. Now she's going to have a shitty blink but you'll be able to play her like some ledge-hopping sniper.

>>181982745

wut

>>182011496
Except you never know when this will be the case because you pick legendaries at the start of the round.

>>182001203
after his nerfs even the two jumps didn't give buck the same kind of damage or mobility that androxus or evie had

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>>181984343
You used to be able to, I am not sure if you still can as I haven't played her in a while.

>>181987691
!

>>182002671
I really don't feel like nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf is taking any steps toward buffing buck
I do really like how now he doesn't have just one decent legendary since the lifesteal one was always decent but just not on the same level as bounce house, but with how hard they've hit him recently it'll be a surprised to ever see him again and I don't trust hirez to actually buff my boy

>>181992953
This can't be real.

>>182011950
Bounce house has always been cancer. Although Buck in general has always been cancer, his old Ultimate was a cluster fuck I'm still waiting for them to bring back into the game.

It would be nice to play him again

>>182012240
>Although Buck in general has always been cancer
Are you a Hi Rez employee? It's the only reason you could think that

>>182012240
He's not cancer, he's bad. And these changes will make him even worse. Or course it might balance out with the other changes going on, but I doubt it.

>>182012408
Think Inaras wall except in 360 degrees and a roster where only two people have vertical mobility. Shit was horrifying yo. I love Buck don't get me wrong but HiRez has done nothing but constantly fuck him over design wise and its incredible frustrating.

>>182011496
I guess. Just doesn't seem worth it giving up my shiny turrets, maybe when I get used to it a little more. I'll keep playing around with it.

>>182012240
literally name one good legendary card that isn't cancerous and/ or a crutch

>>182012240
>Although Buck in general has always been cancer
*Evie

>its almost 1am est so now z1 is in all my siege games


Can you assholes get good at the game already so I can play it late night.

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Post em.
And post how much money you given towards Paladins.
>$0.00

>>182015925
Only 190 hours and bought the Founder's Pack.

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>>182015925
>None.
I've given around 100 diddly dollars for Smite though.

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>>182015925
I've played since CB so add on 100-200 more hours, founders pack plus random gem packs here and there. This has been my main game for a while so I don't mind supporting it like a good goy.

Although given how I only solo Q its pretty sad.

>>182015925
531 hours, 0 bucks given.

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>>182015925
Steam badges says $35 but I think it's closer to 50.

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>Dude *Insert healer name here* heal more
>Game ends, we lose
>Over 100k healing
>Y-yeah well you weren't healing the tanks
This retarded shit infuriates me to no end, hi-rez needs to add some kind of healing notification so people will quit being less brain dead and blaming healers for their own shortcomings.

>>182016802
Most of this games problems stems from lack of notifications, you generally have no idea when you're getting hit/healed.

Quake had this shit figured out day 1

>>182016802
>>182017378
but there is a healing notification in the form of green aura around your screen

>>182017378
I have no problem determining that I'm getting hit.

Agree that healing needs to be made clearer though.

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>>182017612
It should be more like this for people spamming "NEED HEALING"

healing notifications are obscure, the only time i can tell im getting healed is when im out of battle and im actively watching my bar at the bottom for the autoheal to kick in

another visibility issue is crosshairs changing colors while aiming at teammates and enemies, why the fuck is that necessary ive had countless times where i just lose my crosshair in the midst of all the visual noise

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>>182018675
gross

>>182018675
Grover would be the king of trolls for passively blocking 90% of your screen then.

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>>182018675
As a support main, these fucks deserve worse

>nerfing mobility
>lowering ttk
>all to please consoles

Is paladins trying to become overwatch?

>>182011608
Yeah. Despite my initial enthusiasm for the new Tinkerin, I dunno why I'd take it over Architectonics in 99% of cases. I suppose if your team doesn't have any long-range champs or flanks and the enemy team has stuff like Kinessa/Sha/Grover you could make an argument for it, but I probably wouldn't have taken Barik if my team looked like that anyway.

I suppose it gives him a little bit more flexibility in ranked, but that's about it.

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The new Ferocity Grover's fuckin amazing, you deal 550~600 point blank and throwing 1K axes from one side of fish market to another.

>>182021057
>and throwing 1K axes from one side of fish market to another.
yeah good luck hitting anything with those slow projectiles

So I take it Torvald is still dead in the water? The new legendary looks kinda nice since it gives him an area burst, which his kit didn't have before. I'm guessing that doesn't change much tho.

>Grover and Fernando are viable again
>Andro and Drogoz keep getting nerfed
pinch me bros

>>182022601
They made the wrong aspect of Grover viable, though.
People wanted healing Grover, not snipe-from-spawnroom Grover.

>>182022601

Yeah, it's been a pretty crazy time.

>>182016802
nah it's just shitty teammates

don't forget, these people probably didn't pick rejuvenate

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>>181984768
what the fuck is with the gold price increses
jesus

>>182023032
This. Grover's a support and they're making him do more damage than some of the damage characters instead of buffing his support aspects. May as well just put him in the damage category now.

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>>181984768
>Drybear
>Price increase from 1 Gold to 200 Crystals
Literally no new players will know who he is and want to buy this shitty announcer pack.

>>182023032
In a perfect world, they would have fixed Rampant Blooming to make Grover actually viable at healing. At the same time, I can see why they don't - healing with Grover is braindead easy, which is why he's always done well at low elo play. If they make him too much better, scrubs who don't know to buy cauterize will boost his global win rates into the high 70s.

It's nice enough for the time being to just have a Grover who's a competent damage dealer with secondary support abilities. At least there's a reason to actually take him now, and it adds a little variety to the support roster.

>>182024548
His passive heal is so shitty now. It may as well be a passive damage reduction shield instead, with the counterplay being to kill Grover since he won't be affected by his aura.

>>182024693

Who knows? Maybe in a few updates, he'll be melee.

>>182003178
The only thing i'd want are Androxus Horns.

>>181985826
>Legendary Chest
Aren't Star Slayer Ruckus the only legendary skin right now though?

>>182029387
I want to touch Ash's thighs

>>182022327
His Projectile speed got buffed.

>>182024548
I was thinking about Rampant Blooming, but I have no good ideas. Honestly the easiest thing would be to just make it increase Grover's passive aura from 80 to ~105 and be done with it

>>182029624
From the datamine these chests would guaranteed a new unique Legendary card.

So, if they are increasing the quest rewards, and the patch goes live wednesday, does that mean that my currently active quests are going to be worth more after the patch? Or will they stay the same?

>>182032915
Your quests get reloaded by Tuesdays anyways.

>>182033198
Wait what? Mine get renewed on Sundays

>>182033349
Really? Weird. Still though, quests are getting renewed before patch anyways so complete all of those now. When you get renewed then wait till after the patch and the changes should take effect.

So after playing around and againest Lian on PTS abit, here is my impression. Lian's gimmick is that all her skills are weapon hits and applies Caut, Bulldozer and wrecker. She has 2 different builds, either Grace+Valor spam as a midrange Caut sprayer or Clone/turret clearer or a budget Kinessa spamming piecing damage for pretty high dps. Her third legendary gives her signicant 1v1 potential since her autoaim ability becomes really dangerous and she never has to reload.

She brings to the table Cassie and Kinessa's playstyle with the cavet that she cannot miss half her skills with the other half autoaim. A high skill ceiling/floor character with a ton of flexibility for comp picks.

>>182033982
Let's not forget that she can have 40% cooldown reduction on elimination and can have up to 2 abilities that automatically hit everybody you see.

Lizards belong on the ground

>Tfw you don't like anything about the new patch

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>ob54 is the worst patch in months and ruins the game
>shitters are fine with it because "waah mommy I can't aim but I still wanna play waaah" champs like ash and fernando got buffed
>meanwhile any champ who required aim to kill got gutted, except fucking drogoz because he's a special snowflake and lo-rez loves him
>none of it will get fixed or reverted because the only people who care are by far the minority

>>182035786
mad af

>>182035938
yes I am, thanks for noticing

>>182035960
its just a game bro

>>182034793
And dragons belong in the sky ;)

>>182033982
Sounds like a good addition to the game, to me.

>>182036260
no they belong in my bed
sometimes the shower

>>182035786
kek, stay mad.

>>182035786
Hi-Rez drones will defend anything the company does man

>>182036260
true, this game really needs a dragon

>>182034148
>>182034148
That's abit redundant since she got cards to reduce CD to 0 if she hits multiple targets for either Valor or Presence and they don't a ton of damage for 1v1

https://clips twitch tv/ConcernedPlumpSandwichTheThing
Lian.

>>182035786
>ob54 is the worst patch in months and ruins the game
You have to be retarded to believe this

>>182035786
Here's the problem right? Listen here. Androxus, BK, Evie, Drogoz. What do they have in common? They are all top-tier (Evie is banned in almost 100% of OB53 ESL matches) and are picked almost constantly unless banned. Why? Since they have way too much mobility compared to everyone else. Now, HiRez can do one of 2 things, either buff the mobility of everyone else to be on par with Andro/BK, which would mean even more work than this, or nerf those with mobility legendaries.
Not to mention, with how vital mobility is, it makes legendaries redundant. Androxus' most-picked and best was still Dark Stalker. BK never picks anything other than Accelerant. Buck would always go Bounce House. With how powerful mobility is there's no reason to pick any other sup-par legendary. What they are doing in OB54 is tuning everyone's legendaries to fall on a common ground, so that the legendary system actually means something.
I like this patch, other than the changes to the gold price of cosmetics of course.
Also Drogoz needs a WRYM Jets rework.

>>182037171
>Also Drogoz needs a WRYM Jets rework.
if you want to fix shit legendaries then he needs a combustible rework, it's objectively his worst legendary

>>182037251
Displacement is not shit.

>>182037171
/palg/ told me Evie was never picked. Wtf guys.

Holy shit. Armrests on my new chair actually helps my aim so fucking much it's unbelievable. I used to have my elbow hanging from my desk and have the mouse mat far in on the desk, but now I have the mouse mat at the edge of the desk and use the armrests as a proper support and boom, I'm much more consistent. It feels so good to be able to play Androxus again.

>>182037328
the bonus damage is nothing compared to fusillade, making it a dot makes it even weaker, and knocking enemies off the point is bad considering you can't combo spit fire with salvo taking combustible plus without the left click damage or mobility from wyrm jets he has a harder time chasing down and finishing off enemies he hits
not to mention with decent cards you can basically reset the cooldown near immediately when hitting a group so you can just spam 1000 large aoe damage across the entire point over and over since no one gets knocked off
it's one of the few legendaries I would go so far as to say has an overall negative impact on a character as opposed to taking any other legendary

>>182037171
BK is fine, he's already been nerfed a bunch of times and isn't 100% pick tier anymore
Androxus nerf WOULD have been fine too if they nerfed drogoz (no, wyrm jets nerf will not change anything, everyone uses combustible anyway, he needs a nerf to his base kit) but as it stands, all this does is make drogoz even stronger, but you don't see anyone complain about this because all they can think about is "edge man can't use his aim skill to kill me anymore so that's good"
Evie just needed a nerf to reprieve (~400 healing per second would've been fine) but for some reason they also changed her projectile speed and killed the whole point of her kit

>>182037450
She was never picked because she was first-ban 100% of the time.

>>182036642
If her panties are modeled, she is even lewder than 2B.

>>182037461
fair warning, without wearing your arm out so much holding it in place/ hurting your wrist keeping it on a desk you'll probably find yourself staying sitting in front of the computer for much longer periods at a time

>>182037514
/palg/ told me BK is the most OP champ. Wtf guys.

>>182037171
>either buff the mobility of everyone else to be on par with Andro/BK
yes

mobility is fun
more work is not an excuse on a commercial product

>>181984203
>http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?47555-Open-Beta-54-Patch-Notes-July-12-2017
Wow, what a shit patch

>>182037915
You want this game to be like league of legends? FUck off retard

>>182035786
whats the matter? need the 3 unlinked charges of nether step to secure a kill without being heavy punished? Get good

>>182037968
never played LoL
but movement is fun, deal with it

>>182037915
>do 8x as much work and then also fuck up gameplay for your console players even further

look I dislike most of what's in this patch too, but you should still be able to understand why hi rez took the direction they did

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Have you done your daily civic duty and hopefully made people think twice about picking shitty champs like Kinessa?

Y'all shoulda lost hope the moment Martini said that they will always balance around all platforms during the developer insight.

>>182037491
Yea but my point with reworking WYRM was because it was Drogoz's mobility card. BK and Andro's mobility legen got reworked completely, why not this?

>>182017612
On the lighter maps you can't tell it easily, its the same shit with the cross hair too.

Some maps its pretty much invisible.

>>182037915
Let's try this then:
Post mobility buff for everyone.
Andro and BK keeps Dark Stalker/Accelerant of course.
Ash: the antiair. Gives double range to flak cannon and let the flak auto-detonate when near anyone.

>>182039492
Cause they already have 2 deal more damage legendary cards for him and couldn't come up with a 3rd

>>182039435
I like picking Kinessa at Primal Court tho.

>>182039583
Barik: Rocket Boots will now move you in a diagonal direction upward based on where you look, and the range is doubled. Flying dwarf.

>>182039583
Fernando: Charge now functions similar to Viktor's hustle until you collide with someone, which knocks them back.

Makoa: make shellspin curveable in all directions

Inara: Wall now has double height.

Tyra: each hit gives 1% movement speed for 5s. it stacks up 40 times.

Torvald: You now have a weeker version of your ult on your F, and you could aim downwards to boost yourself up.

Maeve: old pounce distance along with extra jump height and 100% air control.

>>182039583
Zhin: in smoke form has free movement in all directions, kind of like willo's ult lite
Makoa: hitting a wall with shell spin causes you to bounce off it like fucking rubber
Skye: falling slowed while against a wall, pressing jump will wall jump up and away from the wall
Willo: similar to Androxus' slow fall, can hold space while falling to go down much slower with nearly the same horizontal mobility
Inara: placing a wall beneath someone's feet will launcher them high up into the air
Tyra: grenade gives a hefty knockback on detonation, allowing her to grenade jump or knock enemies around and off ledges

>>182040053
that's what, ten feet higher? is that enough to keep enemies off my point?

>>182040875
I was thinking of using it as vertical mobility

>>182037497

>>182041743
no