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Total War Saga Announcement Blog
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New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/
Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - FREE FOR ALL, Magic, Campaign, Fortress Gate Battles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sgjUxVPtY4 [Embed]
Campaign map flyover for WH2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PtX_tJdBU4 [Embed]
Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - Dragons, New Units, Geomantic Web, DLC Plans:
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Mazdamundi's Skill Tree/Misc Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkUBoGptGI [Embed]
Articles on Warhammer 2:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/15724926/total-war-warhammer-2-e3-preview-hands-on
https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/02/segas-creative-asssembly-unveils-a-massive-new-world-for-total-war-warhammer-ii/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-02-everything-weve-learnt-about-total-war-warhammer-2
Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
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Lizardmen and High Elf Roster Reveal:
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Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/
High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMR08CpxCU [Embed]
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/
Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
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Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Vision Dev Diary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WW1Nc537g [Embed]
>FAQs and General Info
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Old Thread >>181770036
You actually let the thread fucking delete itself huh
AGAIN
This where we are at now
Muh fantasy
Muh history
Grace
>>181864741
stupid whore
Shameless repostan.
post screenshots my dudes
>>181864618I didn't even notice that we already hitted bump limit.
Cool custom maps edition when?
>>181864778
Cute
>>181864741
I want to be buried in Grace's hair.
>>181864926
but how do the siege towers drive up
>>181864926
well grand campaign custom battles map just got updated with 3-4 walled settlements, so now I guess,.
>>181864872
History and fantasy living luxurious and gloriously comfortable harmony>>181864923 I thought we were still on something like page 5. Surprises everywhere today.
>>181864872
>tfw not with my desktop to play warhams or other total war
>tfw not with my dekstop to post screenshots
Not like my old CPU let me take good looking screenshots anyway. At least I got a lot of money to upgrade my shit now.
>>181864872
>>181865010
It seems fine on the video showcase.
>>181865224
I think I forgot somethingyou saw nothing.
>>181864778
I like it.
>>181864872
>>181865407
Was about to saywhere is krell
Charlemagne has sent a couple of armies into Italy to retaliate for us not giving up Ravenna/turning the papal states into a puppet state
>campaign posting/screenshot sharing encouraged removed from op
rude
G O B L I N S
encountered a strange bug where I recruit demigrpyhs, and on the turn of completion I get my money back and no new units. Anyone ever had this before?
I actually started to like their look. Maybe not ingame so far but Helves are cool on artworks.
>>181865604
>>campaign posting/screenshot sharing encouraged removed from op
Well it's a fantasy OP
>>181864872
>>181865604
>fantasyfag makes OP
>removes campaign posting
What a surprise from those memeing redditors.
>>181865823
>>181865767
It was removed from the previous one too though.
>>181864872
>>181865767
>>181865823
He clearly just copied the previous history OP. Of course, that doesn't align with your worldview.
>>181865786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CTOCg8__kc
>>181865952
>>181866043
Stop feeding that /v/ermin samefag. He is attention whoring for a while already, I'm surprised he is not a tripfag yet.
ANNOUNCEMENTS WHEN
SKAVEN WHEN
LEAKS WHEN
NEW CAMPAIGN PICS WHEN
NORSCA DLC WHEN
FLC WHEN
KRELL WHEN
OLD FRIEND WHEN
ELITE 4 WHEN
>>181866269
I'm sorry my longnecked elven friend,it's 7am, I bite too easily right now. I didn't realize until I posted.
>>181866323
They have so many units left to show, but they aren't showing shit for some reason.
>>181866323
Next week.
Late september.
Early september
Next week.
August.
August.
August.
Never.
>>181866323Bannerlord whenI can't stand it anymore
>tfw no endless war
>tfw no ancient empires
>tfw no medieval kingdoms
>tfw no bannerlord
>tfw nogood warsword
>>181864872
>>181866447
>few months left
>we don't even know what gameplay of the two other faction looks like yet
bravo CA
>>181866601On the other side anon. It's waiting for you with the rest of /mbg/
>>181866743
There is no reason for them to show stuff that early.
>>181866743
I will actually laugh if they keep going with that skaven "joke" until release. Awful marketing, but that would be some commitment.
>inb4 they bombard us with STUFF in the last few weeks so we can't even keep up.
>>181866635
>tfw no good warsword
>Beastmen own Estalia rather than being bandits with occasional doomstacks
>Pirate kingdom rather than Tilea or Tilean city states
>Unfinished, laggy and diplomacy is retarded after one day (Helves signing peace with greenskins and beastmen etc)
>Nippon in New World (this one isn't so bad though)
>No magic system
10 days lad
>>181867136
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHCOMFY
What new shit will the norsca roster even have aside from maybe mammoths?
>Nagash still not announced
The calm nights, the town slumbers... :)
>>181867350
You're back! You missed a few threads.
>>181867301
THROGG. And maybe some OC donuts like Bretonnia. BUT MOSTLY THROGG.
>>181865604
despite taking pavia, shartlememe's reinforcements retreat back into the alps, allowing me to easily re-take the city. To the east another frankish army has descended and is headed towards Verona
>>181867684
He appears to have a mouth on his tummy.
Is there a non-steam mod to disable assassinations in Warhammer?
>>181867684
Throgg and some troll variants seems pretty likely
So this game is like high fantasy RTS Mount & Blade or something?
>>181867301
Werebears
>>181868250
Get your own agents.
But yeah, /twg/ should probably start upload steam mods somewhere and link it in the OP.
>twf no sci-fi TW
>>181867487these threads move way too fast for me
>>181868283
Total War Warhammer is fantasy yes. It's a turn based strategy game with real time battles(same with all the other total wars). The other total wars are history based.
>>181868374
>oerl the young who bears the bear banner
>>181866323
>LEAKS WHEN
Well, Darren just got back from his vacation so any day now...
>>181868283
no
Total War is grand strategy just like Europa Universalis, but turn based. Factions and cities are already placed and you take control over one faction. Not like in civ or other 4x where everything is randomly generated.
It also have battles in rts style, which are main focus of the series. Everything else is just excuse to put you into battles and give them some sort of meaning.
In no way it is similar to M&B,though people who play Total War seems to like M&B too and vice versa
>>181867684
I would murder my wife and my mother for Throgg
>>181869253
shouldn't that pic be updated w/ /mbg/ and /twg/ switched now that /mbg/ is the one suffering waiting for bannerlord while /twg/ enjoys a healthy franchise
>>181867301
Wulfrik the Wanderer hopefully.
>>181869268
He has a really cool character design yes.
Just got Warhammer II over bundlestars, I'm assuming I get the Norsca DLC moment it comes out since I just preorderd WHII?
>>181868490
>But yeah, /twg/ should probably start upload steam mods somewhere and link it in the OP.
For what purpose?
>>181869268
I will throw all my charlemagnes at CA for Throgg. They cannot trollblock me with this.
>>181870053
>>181869638
Is Bundlestars a key-reseller or an actual retail site, because if you pre-ordered from a key-reseller then you just cucked yourself.
Whats the equivalent of these guys in Fantasy?
>>181870204
Nah its a retailer and the product is activated on steam, I'm just curious as to how the FLC wil
>>181870263
ogres, and their god is an actual tyranid too
>>181870397
I mean, I fucking assume you'll get it, it says so right on the product page on Bundlestars
>>181870397
>FLC
But we don't know yet. They said it's supposed to be before WH2, so if it's just by having it in your library then it should. If it's specific retailers it's pot luck. I'll get it from my usual place because fuck Australian steam, but it also means I won't play Norsca till like a day before release. But oh well.
Battle of Alesia was such a clusterfuck oh my god. Julius Caesar was a lucky man
>>181870447
>bunch of fat fucks is the equivalent of dinosaur space bugs
Makes sense I guess, they coming in Warhams III? It'll be a bit weird to have a race of just large units. Maybe they'll have gnoblar infantry
>>181870263
Skaven?
>>181870734
Julius Caesar is NOT my Emperor
>>181869998
Why didn't CA use these awesome fuckers for the trolls we could use?
>>181866269
He better be voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch.
>>181871502
Trolls come in many shapes and sizes.
Two factions, unalike in dignity
In fair Verona, where we start our scene
We learn that >Frankish Cavalry are a stupid meme
>>181871502
River Trolls are handsome shits true, but they wouldn't make a lot of sense to be recruited by a bunch of Greenskins in the badlands. Maybe Throgg'll get a unique bodyguard reskin of them. But probably not.
>>181871967
what's with those guys holding dildos
>its a half a norcsan army is just trolls and chaos chariots episode
im getting really sick of reruns
>>181864413
>Warhammer 2 comes out
>it's age of sigmar
>all your saves are wiped
>Campaign map is deleted and replaced with a flat map with no features and one settlement per faction
>3/4 of the original factions are deleted
>Warhammer 1 and 2 are removed from the store.
>this is the only way to play warhammer now
A girl can dream....
>>181872335
>Campaign map is deleted and replaced with a flat map with no features and one settlement per faction
That is simply not true
Is Albion going to be a playabe faction?
>>181872468
not unless you make it so with mods most likely, so get to it
>>181872468
considering their island is inaccessible and has no settlements on it, no
>>181872468
About as likely as Fimir.
>>181872335
>$79.99
>>181872468
considering their island is inaccessible and has no settlements on it, yes
>>181873018
>plus tip
>>181873018
>>181873206
>>181872335
>"Let the game scan your great beard and get a bonus in the auto-resolve"
>Game randomly tells you to do stuff in real life before you can end your turn.
>>181872335
>Game activates your webcam
>"In order for your cavalry to get a charge bonus pretend to gallop on a horse!"
>>181873651
>>181874008
Is this something AoS does??
>>181874281
yes
also space marines
>>181873651
>>181874008
>>181874364
Wait
What?
>>181874281
>He doesn't know about Age of Sigmar.
>Launch Warhammer
>Play 15 minutes
>Quit
Is the next one going to be better?
>>181872713
That's not Albion. It's some tiny no name island.
>>181874532
I know how shitty it is compared to WHFB and how it totally destroyed the setting from a fluff standpoint, but I don't know any of the crunch
>>181874464
>>181874662
The only rules are... there are no rules!
Norsca when, after watching video about possible units and such I am so hype. Need army of werewolfs in my life
Summarize the most important elements of the ERE in 10 words or less.
>>181874587
In my opinion if you don't like the first one you probably won't like the "second" one.
>Wood elves LL
>mutated tree
>mutated autist
When are they getting non shit LL?
>>181874825
Greek
Greek
GreekLaterTurkish
>>181875002
Durthu's great, love him
Orion's pretty fun on the battlefield, though he looks like he's missing a lot of brain cells
>>181875002
But Wood Elves are shit by definition.
>>181875002
>durthu
>not great
Mel Gibson is fun too, although he keeps looking confusedly at things. Probably just a side effect from being a beastman.
>>181875002
Ariel would be nice.
Though that would require CA making DLC for DLC...
>>181875351
They need to or all DLC races will be fucked forever.
Am I supposed to confederate most of the dwarves or just war them?
They don't wanna play ball right now.
So how is the balance of races and magic lores right now?
I uninstalled months ago but it's time to play again. And are those LL DLC's worth it?
>>181875351
I hope they'll shunt in extras as they did with Beastmen
>>181875982
And with Chaos, for that matter. My favourite unit, Aspiring Champions.
>>181875351
We've gotten FLC for DLC before. Usually because it was for a reason like Morghur, but I don't see the difference in work done whether or not it's FLC for a base game faction or DLC.
>>181875351
>Ariel
I can't believe she's not the 3rd LL from the start.
>>181874767
In before it'sTomb Kings
Nah I'm just kidding it would beGrom the paunch as a Green skin Horde faction, for added disappointment.
>>181875351
They have done FLC for DLC before, so it is possible.
But it does rely o them actually making content instead of teasers so maybe not...
>>181869253
So who makes up the Asberg Triumverate for /twg/ modders?
>>181875685
Focus on the greenskins first, then consider your plans for taking the other dwarfs, as it is though I don't think there's much in the way of penalties outside of the usual diplomatic ones for going to war with your own race.
>>181876645
Wait is one of these the warsword guy?
Wurrzag or Malagor?
>>181877179
Ok.
I went south first since I noticed I couldn't secure the whole northern province without that other clan taking the west settlement.
And the greenskin threat is almost dead here. Maybe that's why they won't confederate.
Problem is, I just played Bretonnia so I've been getting all the agreements I can so it'll take another 10 turns to break them and 10 more to attack. All while I'm boxed in doing nothing.
One more time from the top!
>>181877820
Go bully some vampires, nobody likes those guys so everyone'll like you. Also helps to secure your future flanks when you go up north.
>>181877565
No, they are, from left to right
>Guy who claims to be an old bodybuilder who makes mod during his spare time who is probably just a kid and also gets mad if you try to make a mod in a setting close to his instead of just working on his mod
>Guy who made ACuck who continues to remove things people like, keep in things people hate (backwards tripping), and generally just acts like a cunt
>Saxondragon, who hates if you make a minor modification to his mod, doesn't understand HOW you can insult the lore since his dead friend wrote it all, despite it literally just being "LOTR after a magic apocalypse", and hates when you confuse Prophecy and Prophesy
Personally think the old man who ruined Warsword should replace Gabby, but eh.
>>181878047
>Saxondragon
Oh yeah he is a classic
>>181874662
>but I don't know any of the crunch
AoS is Warhammer 40k crunch-wise, basically
>>181876453
>Nah I'm just kidding it would be Grom the paunch as a Green skin Horde faction, for added disappointment.
CA want to nickle and dime you, but they're still more interested in lowering your expectation so you'll pay more for less. No interesting minor factions and characters is an iron rule of design at CA.
give me a infantry based country to play in either atilla ( not the romans) or charlemagne pls
Is it possible to confederate in Charlemagne? How?
>>181878797
No.
>>181878770
Danes in Charlemagne
>>181879069
can you change religion in charlie?
I don't want to fight for odin
>>181877179
My mind is still blown from realizing orcs can grow hair in Warhammer.
>autoresolve against norcsans with my elite army will give me few casualties
>playing against them i lose like a third of my army
how the fuck am I supposed to effectively counter an army that is half chariots and trolls? and even chaos marauders still do decent damage against greatswords
am i supposed to just make an army of demigryph knights?
>>181881072
Counter with tons of Luminarks of Hysh
Two can play at this chariot game
>>181881053
Orc TopNots are a type of squig/fungus(can't remember specifics) IIRC that they implant in their scalp to be fashionable.
>>181877704
Wurrzag!
>no mod to play as Papal States in AoC
>>181881072
>how the fuck am I supposed to effectively counter an army that is half chariots and trolls
You don't, you download a mod that fixes that shit.
getting bored of atilla now, Vampire counts or empire lads
>>181882716
Empire, but heres the catch - declare war on Brettonia right away
>>181880963
Danes get an event to concert I think
>>181882962
Is it viking metal or that weird Scandinavian chanting?
HOP-LEE-TAI
How do bretonnians fight chaos when bretonnians don't have armor piercing weapons?
>>181883886
That mod had over 50 shades of hop-lee-tai, iirc.
Is EB2 good now?
>>181884715
HOP-LEE-TAI HAP-LOH-EEI haven't played it in ages, it wasn't very fun the last time I played it
>>181883894
Lances and halberds, but especially lances.
>close victory
>>181883894
Just throw a stack of knights errant, lose, and mop up with Louen.
You should have enough cash to afford 3 full stacks of cav armies AND Louen's super army.
Or if you use knights of the realm, don't forget about lance formation. It wrecks shop. They also get frightened by either Pegasus or hippogryph knights so they actually break sometimes.
OH BABY
>>181887679
How's wood elf campaign so far? Seems like it could be comfy - you conquer the forest and then expand from there? Does the game get more forested the more you conquer?
Bought the Clan Angrund campaign which was shit - tedious and with little reward.
>>181875351
Ariel Soon.
How do I wanna build Belegar?
I find it hard to believe that I should be building EVERY melee lord from every faction as a melee duelist guy. Karl and Louen, yes, but isn't someone better at powering up the army?
Anyway. Belegar.
>>181874662
>>181874281
>>181874464
rules that make you do dumb shit irl like
>riding an invisible horse
>having a bigger mustache than your opponent
>yelling catchphrases
all give your units buff in the game
So it's treason then
>>181880963
There is only one instance of being allowed to convert in Charlemagne, and that is when playing Westphalia.
>>181889580
Campaign is... divisive to say the least. I find it okay. Wood Elf battles are fun as hell though, maybe my favourite roster to play as.
>>181890975
I don't recall the specifics of his tree, but I usually get the buffs for the basic units (dwarf warriors/rangers) so that I can have my discount pre-8P stack be more effective
Why is DEI for rome 2 so fucking dull
>>181891640
>econ changes make attila look like wh
>paragraph long descriptions
>diplomacy is utter fucking garbage
>slow combat made even worse by an ai who can't handle the changes made
>every battle plays out exactly the same way for whatever faction you are playing as
They're making fun of Warhammer again bros
>>>/v/383051923
>>181891945
It's trash, don't get why everybody thinks it's so brilliant. It slow as fuck, the larger unit numbers can't form up properly, missile units just seem like they are firing foam, trying to play as rome is wank, cavalry feels weak as fuck, carthage just btfo you because of the overseas supply stuff and Triarii, principes and hastati get boring easily
>>181892107
Oh noes.
>daughter is the regent of the Duchy of Bavaria
>don't get any options to puppet/annex it
Would be neat
Although actually, now that I look at it, I don't think this is actually a daughter you start the campaign with - I think the rulers of the Duchy of Bavaria had all of their eligible heirs die/be too young so the game spawned a regent after my actual daughter (who was married to the ruler of the faction) died, and attributed her to my family for whatever reason
How do I get my family members to fuck more in Attila?
>>181893959
>needing them to fuck more
Unless you are using a mod you should be drowning in illegitimate children
It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. The Druchii of Clar Karod whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled for but one purpose,domination by a best elf soon!
>>181894842
this is better than the usual best elf shitposting
>>181894842
I see standards are lower for a mere Druchii memester
who wins
Total War noob question. When doing cavalry i know you dont just run them into an army and forget about em. But what im not sure about is when doing charges do you have them hit the unit then turn back right away? Or do you run them in let them scrap for 10-15 seconds or whatever then run back?
Cavalry is fun as hell to manage and crash into units. But i want to make sure im doing it properly.
If it changes anything i currently only have Warhammer. But ive had fun with the format so ill probably pick up other ones soon enough.
>>181896314
Damn you found me out, I'll try to reach your level. Next month.
>>181896858
Hit them and then turn away when they're just sitting there.
>>181894842As a high elf player... want..
>>181894842
>a small group of empire ships bound for the new world have been lost at sea for some time
>originally intending to stop at ulthuan for supplies, a storm has blown them off course
>one of the men finally thinks he has spotted land
>"land ho!"
>skeptical, the grizzled captain takes a look for himself
>through the dense fog he can barely see, but he sees just enough to know that what the lookout spotted wasn't a piece of land, but a
>"BLACK ARK!"
>sheer panic grips the crew as they hopelessly try to escape the dark elf vessel
>carnage ensues
Would be a great trailer for announcing naval battles if they ever get added, bonus points for good music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-_qS_3KXBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRja4HUsRu0
>>181896858
I pull them out as soon as I can because it seems the longer they're engaged the more they'll drop like flies when you try to pull them out of combat.
>tfw no Ptolemaic gf
I like playing as the Empire the most, but man. They worship a dead mortal don't they? At least there are some dwarfs old enough to remember their gods, right?
It'd be like if we worshiped George Washington. Sure the man was the birth of a nation and church is fine for the community and all but literally expecting to have George cross you over the Delaware into heaven after you die is silly.
>>181899343
>real world = warhammer world
Sure m8
>>181899626
Holy shit.
Thank you for your input.
>>181899120
>wanting an inbred gf
>>181899343
it would be like worshipping george washington if george washington was able to cross the delaware and use a bigass magical french sword to lop king george's head off (king george of course being a 10 ft tall green fungal creature obsessed with smashing tiny colonials). Then years and years later a few people obsessed with the founding fathers read about all the metal shit he did and start a cult around him, which grows into a religion once people realize that you get sweet ass magical powers when you ask for Washington's Blessing.
>>181899343
How is it any different than normal religion?
Jesus=guy who ascended
Mohammed=guy who ascended
Sidhartha=guy who ascended
list goes on
>>181900096
I see your point, but magic obviously exists in Warhammer. Real life... Well this is 4chan and there are a lot of faithless so no, there are no magic powers. I was trying to understand the Warhammer universe some more.
I didn't know you actually got magic powers from him like >>181900091 said.
>>181892107
Only /tg/ respects us.
>>181899343
>I like playing as the Empire the most, but man. They worship a dead mortal don't they? At least there are some dwarfs old enough to remember their gods, right?
Not really. Sigmar ascended and became a deity of Man like Ulric and the other Human gods. Belief and prayers to Him can do some nasty shit, see also Arch Lector/Warrior Priest. The Dwarf pantheon would remember Sigmar showing up and joining the Human crew way back when.
>It'd be like if we worshiped George Washington. Sure the man was the birth of a nation and church is fine for the community and all but literally expecting to have George cross you over the Delaware into heaven after you die is silly.
Literally full stop what the fuck. The US was created in 1776, 241 years ago; the Empire (which was only a collection of loose tribal clans upon creation and is still a collection of loose tribal states in the present) was brought together by Sigmar in 0 IC, with the game starting at 2502 IC at Franz's ascension. Not nearly enough time has past to deify ol' Oakteeth, but if the States endure that long it WILL happen. Given time (and maybe some prodding) you could seriously get a cult of personality going that believes in exactly what you said. We humans can be batshit stupid like that.btw george is the six-star rotting corpse man-emperor-general of our glorious nation's armies and no one can ever rise above him in rank he lives forever in our hearts i would swim across the Delaware for Him
>>181900091
>inbred
delet
>>181892107
>>181892107
oh my god my sides, the people who come up with pic related are truly Lords of the Meme
>>181901975
>Belief and prayers to Him can do some nasty shit,
Very-very rare gifts like WP in mark of chaos trailer
>>181901975And then you have the Ulric worshipin... err John J. Pershing worshipers who you begrudgingly tolerate.
What is the appeal of playing Charlemagne other than it's as close as we are EVER going to get at a Medieval 3?
>>181900523
This, plus to be fair he did actually ascend, no one knows HOW he did it but Sigmar is most definitely a god and does being his blessing to his followers.
I mean the chaos gods are known to be 100% real so it's easy to believe if they are then why can't some Kick ass barbarian saviour who founded the Empire?
>>181902865
Other than SHEDDING THE BLOOD OF SAXON MEN and conquering Iberia for Islam, not much
>>181894842
Is there a bigger failure in Warhammer than Morathi?
>failed to convince the council of princes to make her son the pheonix king
>couldn't guilt Malekith into ruling Naggarythe twice
>got completely outplayed by Malekith twice during her cultist insurrection
>lost the siege of Anlec to her son
>her plot to assassinate Bel Shannar and put her son on the pheonix throne ended with him being turned into jerky
>her military campaign to clear the way for Malekith to take the throne went nowhere
>Aith Anar was never stopped, despite her best efforts
>the elite assassins she sent after Imrik couldn't even make it past his bodyguard
>failed to usurp the Everqueen's power and was forced to retreat
>failed to kill Thyriol during their duel
>which led to her plan to disrupt the vortex also failing
The only thing she ever succeeded in was corrupting Malekith, who was the best of the elves, into being almost as big a failure as her.
Playing Lombards in AoC, here is the current situation
I was able to time up the excommunication from telling the pope to shove his request for ravenna up his ass with my conquering of them, meaning that I was able to quickly subjugate them and kill off my king, only enduring a couple of turns w/ the excommunication penalties.
The Duchies of Beneventum/Spoleto have been destroyed, but I now have the Papal States/the Duchy of Croatia as puppet states in their place (just paid Croatia to be a puppet state after noticing they had the greedy trait)
The Carolingian Cunt is still sending the occasional stack across the alps, and now I have to worry about Provence as well. Thankfully they are too scared of my fleet to try sending any naval forces south into Italy. With the tribute money coming in from Croatia I'm going to build a new army and probably use it to push into provence or into the Theme of Sicily.
Goals
>puppet Venice
>create a network of puppets/allies in the east
>conquer the theme of sicily (will require some diplomatic maneuvering due to their treaty w/ Venice)
>eventually start shedding the blood of the Frankish men
>>181902865
the setting is refreshing after Attila's 50 shades of barbar/constant hunpocalypse, and a lot of the gameplay features are refined (cav toned down, health standardized, building system/fertility changes etc.).
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
>>181892107
Seeing the hate and the hype made me excited again.
Can't wait.
JUST FIX MAGIC. Fuck. I don't care, make it more expensive but have an impact on battle, not just a timed hit from a long explosion spell or well aimed fireball. But stacking magical item buffs and traits onto a buff that makes it last a minute and a half of unbreakable double melee attack and double melee defense for one unit.
>>181903675
I just wish they made EVERY spell OP and that way it would be balanced.
>>181903754
Well that and give a chance to overcast even when normally casting.
>>181903754
That's why I like the steel and faith meme
>>181902865
It's easy as shit.
Remember most people suck at both campaign and battle AI, that's why they love the old games where you could conquer the world with paesants.
>>181904374
Not OP enough. I want magic to incinerate enemies, anything that gets touched by a vortex or bolt needs to die.
Which game has the worst music?
I vote for Attila
>>181905401
>he doesn't like throat singing
>>181905401
Empire, couldn't recognise a single song from it
Meanwhile just about every Shogun 2 song is memorable. Why does CA hate Jeff Van Dyck so much?
>>181905401
this is my bait
it was made for me
>>181905650
iirc he couldn't continue working w/ them since he lives in leafland and CA is based in Britainistan
I started a VH campaign
I'm beyond fucked, 27 units, I have a 22 unit army and a 8 unit army, along with the garrison if they decide to invade
My defensive allies are Arverni and Massalia, but they aren't at war with the north celts yet, i could convince them if I save money for some turns and then give all of it to make them join the war
what do
Is the SFO Empire legendary campaign harder than the vanilla one?
I'm at the point for the game offers not much challenge even in legendary, was wondering if this mod could help.
Thing is, every mod I've played always made games easier ("more balanced" for fucking noobs)
>>181906010
>40 unit armies
for what purpose
>>181906105
SFO is babbymode campaign difficulty since it buffs garrisons. The only way it adds difficulty is by making certain units/factions retardedly op
>>181905401
You are probably baiting the faggot that loves Attila music.
But actually other than the mongolic/tibetan music, Attila is fucking bland as fuck was was Rome 2.
Warhammer has some few good tunes, specially the main one, but honestly Jeff van Dyck music was so much fucking better, Rome 1 and Medieval 2 had a fucking amazing ost, and Shogun 2 is really good as well, half the songs recycled from Shogun 1.
>>181906010
mod for increased army size?
>>181905401
Honestly, Warhammer.
It's not like it's bad, but it doesn't compare to the other games. I guess it just doesn't really have as much character as the rest of the game has, when Warhammer is *the* game where character matters the most because of all the variety and fantasy. Like how each race could have really unique and distinctive, entire soundtracks to them, but instead for the most part it's just a general shared sort of dark fantasy soundtrack for the whole game. I haven't checked for sure, but I think each faction maybe only has like 3 unique songs each. Also overall, there's not much variety to the soundtrack.
It's a shame, because it's clear that CA hiring a really accomplished, professional music director like Van Dyck or Kyd, would so greatly improve Warhammer overall. As it stands, it's just kind of passable but overall forgettable, and unfortunately Warhammer as good as it could get, will never be a 10/10 for me as long as it doesn't have as amazing a soundtrack as some of the other entries into the franchise.
Hows the Age of Vikings mod?
>>181906308
I dont mind that it buffs garrisons since I always develop that shit anyways, actually it would only mean I would have a harder time sieging, but does it make the AI more aggresive?
Warhammer Ai is fucking gay even on legendary, at most it will send you 3 stacks and then pussy out for a while, unlike Shogun 2 or Attila where it fucking hates you..
>>181906308
>>181906010
40 unit armies seem to make the AI better at attacking through the campaign
Insubres has another army in their capitol, I'm scared, Roma will get sacked with the second bring of Brennus
>>181906403
It's a savegame modification, really easy to do and seems compatible with every mod out there, army battles will be still only 40 units but I like the change since the AI seems to have problems with multi stack attacks while the player can exploit it a lot
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=318420643
>>181906520
berty gud
These are the two best songs in Warhammer, and possibly, the entire TW series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpT-s7xDPBc
>>181903754
Not every spell. But I want a decent chance to buff a spell, not just reduce it's cooldown. Even if it's based on magical item chance like, "The staff of time increases the cost of Whatever's Time Warp and adds such and such." Then I would be like, "Ok, I guess I'm going to use that spell more now instead of the net or protection spell."
>>181907394
But that's only one song.
>>181907394
So far I'm not remembering all of the songs from it like Rome 1 or M2, but I will say that the sound design for this game is amazing. As in the noises.
Music's pretty good, but I have to think that they got someone else because of the fantasy stuff, so he or she probably won't be back forM3.
>>181907697
M3 never going to be real.
>>181907747
Of course it will. M2 is one of the most heavily modded games in the world.
>>181907528
No it's NOT!
>>181907697
>>181907747
Closest we will ever get is probably one of those Saga games centered around the crusades or war of the roses or some shit like that.
>>181907394
This is the first time I've actually noticed a decrease in quality for music going from actually playing the game to listening to an upload.
I guess 200 hours will do that.
>>181864872
I love this shit.
>>181907747
>only 2 Medieval TWs in 17 years
>3 Warhammer games in 3 years
Funtasy wins again lads
>>181907996
and I thought I was casual at 510...
congratulations sir, you must have a life
Alright Boss, gimme some draw requests and i'l see what i can do. I've gotta head to my WAAAGH first though so it'll be when i come back.
>>181908576
Franz using Mannlet von Cumstain as a footstool, picking his teeth with a runefang
>>181908549
No. I just procrastinate a lot. I think about the game all day, get home at 11 from work, and watch youtube until 2 and play for 1 or 2 hours.
Right now I'm banging out campaigns left and right while I have the next few days off.
>>181907394
Runner up.
https://youtu.be/b24LqT_2GIQ?list=PL9s1kLVoKRu75M9_yatXeBRq7owbsT369
>>181864872
Destruction.
>>181905401
Rome 2
so fucking bland
>>181908576
give me a tower of the greenskin legendary lords, with skarsnik and gobbla at the bottom, wurrzag(still dancing) next up, then azhag and skullmuncha, and grimgor at the top doing a gainax crossed arm pose
>>181864872
So after paying enough money to Massilia, they accepted invading Insubres
>>181909118
was making hellcannons look like giant jizzing cocks intentional?
>>181909625
Raeti also brought another army, and Nori army made a fort just outside of my fort
Looks like I will have to defend against everything in a few turns
>>181864872
>>181864872
>>181909790
>>181864872
>>181909790
>>181908576
A Chaos Warrior picking throwing spears and axes out of his armor like he was a Looney Tunes character who fell into a cactus field.
>>181909735
Must be your imagination :^)
>>181908576
Dwarfs fighting Vamps in the foot hills of Eastern Sylvania,
Empire getting memed on by Surtha ek
Tree Hitler and Louen fighting a bloody battle against each other while trampling beastmemes
Vlad and Isabella belittling Archaon and Sigvald as they retreat from a valiant defeat
Basically something that's a contrast to the pic in >>181877179
rolly rolly new campolly
My rome campaign from last thread continues.
Though the swift capture of Lilybaeum and Sardinia was initially well received by the senate it soon became clear that holding their new land will be a challenge. Constant rebellions prevented the Romans from leaving the towns. Even worse the Carthaginian armies mobilized swiftly. Supported by their navy they sailed to Lilybauem convinced they will overwhelm the defenders and retake the town for Carthage.
We've all had that one commander.
That general that we cant ever forget. The one magnificent bastard that etched his name into your total war experience forever.
Who was he /twg/?
>>181911250
As the town was recently captured it was without any form of garrison and so The roman army could do nothing but watch the enemy ships sail towards them.
I did find it funny how Karl Franz voice actor is used by roman soldiers. Hearing Karl Franz shout out "Jupiter give us strength!" is funny. My general also gave a speech in the game which was a speech from the original rome.
>Our roman gods are watching. Make sure they are not ashamed
>>181911213
fuuuck but I don't want the stash and his band of flagellants
So does morale (or leadership) do anything for your soldiers other than not having them break? Like do they fight better?
Or for example do they fight worse when wavering or do they fight exactly as the best they can right until the moment they break?
>>181911861
They don't fight better or worse unless they have an ability that says so.
>>181911427
M2. He cut a swathe through Europe all they way to the far norht-eastern settlement. I had him release captives to get his chivalry up so when he sat in the little motte & bailey, he made it a citadel before the mongols came.
It wasn't his time yet because they headed to Alexandria (balista towers, professional soldiers waiting, max dread general), but when the Timurids came the next general was ready to kill them before they could get 10 feet into Europe.
>>181912025
I see. I was just wondering because I have a hard time choosing leadership stuff. Seems like planning for failure to me.
>>181911538
The ships landed, and their crew were instantly met by a hail of javelins. Those that survived were easily slain by the hastati. This part of the navy was easily dealt with but the bulk of it was about to land on the other side of the town. The Romans marched as fast as they could.
>>181909784
So Insubres finally attacked, and their Nori allies came to their aid
>>181912593
This is the starting position of the armies. Left side is guided by an unexperienced commander, Middle and right side are commanded by Cornellia and Julii families
>>181912983
The armies try to get into position and some skirmishes start in the center
>>181912232
Marching with all speed the romans rached the other side of the town however these Carthaginians were not as easy to take as the previous ships. They attacked from multiple directions.
>>181913747
Then By the grace of the gods a lucky javelin slew the Carthaginian general.
>>181913898
Though it took longer, the Carthaginians who landed were felled the same way as the previous ships. Freeing the remaining men to support those Carthaginians attacking the sides. Outnumbered they soon fell.
Is Chaos stirring like the Realm divide?
Does it only happen when you have so many settlements or provinces?
Because in this game it happened at turn 68, and I swear I've seen the fuckers come at turn 40 as the Empire.
>>181864872
>>181913373
The infantry line collides with the central army and chaos ensues, casualties are high. Left roman flank is almost wiped out by combined cavalry and infantry forces while the general tries to charge the center of the insubres line to save the situation
>>181914117
Then receiving news that a smaller group of enemy units had landed further along the coast. The romans were ordered to gather in the town center. Inspired by the roman flag waving high in the plaza. They were ready for anything.
Did i horsefucker good enough.
Also this is very early in the game so im still not sure on some things. Is the Paladin actually good in fights when on a horse? He did okay at first but man did he get shit on fast when i charged him at the orc lord.
>>181914579
However these were no weak Carthaginians but barbaric Gallic "noble" mercenaries, they were much deadlier then the hastati. Many brave romans fell to their swords. But what they had in strength they lacked in size. The barbarians were outnumbered and allowed a unit of romans to march through a gap and into their flanks.
>>181914481
Roman's left flank breaks, but insubres' main flank also breaks. Left army gets in time to save the day
>>181914787
With the mercenaries death the battle was practically over. (well not in actuality, I spent 2 minutes chasing a unit of slingers). Despite being outnumbered superior roman tactics and strength had triumphed. Overjoyed by this news the Senate declared that the sacrifice of those romans who died that day will not be forgotten. Carthage will be destroyed.
>>181914591
Paladin is good, gets a lot better when he gets his pegasus and you can do flying cycle charges, but he's never gonna compete in extended melee against something like an Orc lord.
>>181914991
This is the situation at the top
>>181915130
Just as the Insubres army routed, the big Nori army charged from the hill, seeing that all the romans were disorganized. The right reserve army tries to get a position into the hill while all the rest of the army infantry tries to form a defensive line as fast as possible
>>181914591
Yeah, he takes hits like a bitch for a while.
Buff up his charge and keep him with your general to quickly slaughter enemy heroes and lords.
Like the other anon said. Once he gets the Pegasus, he's killer.
What virtue did you get on him?
>>181915318
The defensive line is formed but the stakes are getting too high, the army is fully committed at this point
>>181915426
Armies collide, Nori seem too many but the tide is still contested
>>181916025
A massive hole appears in the lines, all hastati start running for their lives
>>181915016
With the destruction of their largest army and navy at Lilybaeum the seas to Carthage was clear. The Mediterranean is not big enough for 2 nations named after their largest city! An evil fog came over the city as the roman armies were nearly upon it. As though nature sensed the city's fall.
So do you guys still say: Shogun 2: Total War, Warhammer Total War,Total Warhammer?, Attila Total War, or did you start saying Total War: _______?
I never made the switch. The only one that sounds ok to me is Total War, Rome 2 for some reason.
>>181916450
Central Insubres line gets wiped out too, and a big pocket appears in the left side, things aren't lost yet
>>181916606
The navy was led by Decimus Brutus. A cunning man he had led the roman navy in all engagements since the Etruscan war. His catapults were well aimed and slew many of the city's garrison. And then opened a hole in the walls for the army.
>>181916741
The army was split in 2. The first were the Hastati who were ordered to take the walls. They were lead by Papirus Cursor. The same drunken senator who had urged the senate to invade Carthage after taking Syracuse.
>>181916668
Celts manage to break through the right side and surround the rest of the forces
The roman general dies in the scene trying to break the right side
All is lost
>>181916876
The second was a small elite force of Princepes and triarii. This group was lead by Lucius Julius Libo. Carthage would be another victory added to Lucius' already long list of accomplishments.
>>181916983
Some units still hold the left side but they are getting killed
So how the shit will mana vortex mechanics work on combined map?
>>181917015
It did not take much for the city to fall. The small garrison was overwhelmed by the larger and more skilled Romans. Lucius oversaw the executions of most Carthaginian politicians. The roman soldiers were given 4 days to do what they wish upon the populace. The men of the city killed in the streets like dogs, the women raped and left for dead, the children enslaved. The cruel barbarity of the legion was even encouraged by Lucius as a way to 'avenge" the many Romans who had died at Lilybaeum.
All the while dolphins swam happily outside the harbor. Unaware of the slaughter taking place. Unaware that Carthage would never be the same again.
>>181917376
So i got buttfucked by the AI, shameful display
>>181911427
>Medieval 2 c. 2014
>Michel Canton
>French General
>Never brought into royal family because princesses kept getting married off to other characters
>Holds Metz against a nearly endless onslaught of HRE doomstacks
>Never lost a single siege
>Personally led several last-ditch charges through the streets of Metz
>Led the revenge crusade into the HRE
>Died of old age shortly after we took Frankfurt
I played TW:Warhammer a while ago and never quite finished my campaign as greenskin. Should I go forward with getting all the DLCs for the new races? Is there any good ones in particular I should get? What about the lord DLC packs? Do they add a lot of units to the game? Why do I have to pay 3.99 to add blood and gore to my game?
>>181917597
What's today?
>>181917432
The Carthaginians were rightfully afraid. Reduced to their holdings in Hispania and the Balearics, the senate saw fit to make peace. For rebellions were threatening Italia itself, and any further expansion would no doubt result in more unrest.
>>181917394
They need to work on the walls first.
Units running through the wrong breach.
Teleporting up and down is stupid.
archers won't fire at units on the wall if they're also on the wall.
Units still have a hard time running to meet the assaulting units.
Like, God damn. How is it so difficult? What's so different about coding the walls? Maybe they need a guy to work on invisible wall collisions or something.
>>181917597
Is friday evr the day?
>>181882716
Vamps, but go Von Carstein, Mannlet is shit.
>>181917394
They won't. The combined map will have the chaos invasion as the end game not the vortex.
>>181918026
And how the shit is Archaon supposed to ever get to Lustria?
I have 400 hours in warhammer and cant literally remember any of the themes
>>181918085
If only there was a faction in Warhammer that worshiped chaos and was known for traversing the seas to distant lands looking for loot, and glory.
>>181918085
The same way the Chaos invasion effects the orcs. The orcs have those bjornling fleets appear off their coasts. And if the chaos invasion destroys the dark elves (because remember naggaroth is connected to the chaos wastes) then chaos will push past them into northern lustria. And Mazdumandi's city is the northernmost Lizardmen city.
Archeaon will probably stay near the empire but other chaos stacks can still go to Lustria.
>>181917597
Today is NOT the day
Today will NEVER be the day
>>181918361
>>181918412
Badlands Chaos invasion is a joke that dies within 5 turns max.
If that's the end game mechanic in Lustria it's going to be pathetic.
/v/ shat on warhammer
Fucking finally they woke up to how trash it is, and before you drones start complaining, I said to myself I wouldn't talk about it as long as they unfucked it with "2", turns out it's even worse trash
>>181918803
A victory objective will probably be destroy the chaos warriors.
Lizardmen crusades all the way to Kislev to kick Chaos shit in.
>>181918818
does your life feel less depressing when you write about not liking things people like?
perhaps you get a little bit of solidarity hoping that somewhere in the big wide world somebody aggreees with you.
Unfortunately the truth is you will never be happy anon, give up 4chan if you have really gotten this bad.
HOLY SHIT SKAVEN REVEAL TURN ON CNN
>>181919353
>Rats
LMAO THOSE ARE NOT EVEN REAL ANIMALS XDDDD
FUCKING CNN LYING AGAIN XDD
hey has anyone managed to mod siege weapon damage/ammo types with the projectiles and missiles tables?
No matter what I set a specific siege weapon to fire (the stirland great cannon is what I'm trying to edit) I cannot actually change it's damage or projectiles/range at all.
which is odd. anyone know what tables you need to modify to alter siege weapons?
I've changed the missile weapon type under battlefield engines too.
anyone know where I'm going wrong?
>>181919265
It obviously does since I said so in the post, I'm relieved people are waking up to how jewish and shit CA has been with warhammer.
But hey let's wait for another dinosaur animation or high elf still! Please CA marketing campaign shit in my mouth more with irrelevant information!
Where's the rats guy when you need him.
>>181919778
>jewish
They not even close to Paradox.
If im looking to make a lord/hero more tanky do i want to boost armor or melee def first? Im not really sure which one boosts survivability more.
>>181919778
/v/ermin pls go
>>181919974
Depends on what your opponent is bringing to the table really, but defence I find is better overall while armor helps early on as your enemy wont have too much armor piercing.
>>181917671
thx for the good read
Candidate for Total War Saga?
What procs Fearful trait in Total War: Warhammer> I keep getting that shit with my lords. I just had a battle where Gelt wiped out over 200+ enemies but he gets that trait. OK.
Tilea sacked the Oak of Ages while I was fighting Chaos and saving the world.
It takes a lot for a knife ear to declare a grudge, but this one's a grudgin'.
>>181920547
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>181920547
Total War: Gustavus
>>181920690
???
>>181920691
Is that the guy Sabaton sang about in Gott Mit Uns?
>>181920691
wrong
>>181920665
That screenshot is nice. Only thing that ruins it is ground texture and grass. I get that grass is demanding on hardware but why the fuck can't CA into nice high res ground textures?
>>181920627
After googling seems like you need to fight in melee, or else you would get a chance for that trait. Which is fucking bullshit, because Gelt was fighting the whole battle against Bats and was diving on Hexwraiths. Mothefucker should have gotten Bold trait.
>>181918818
It's kind of mediocre really, but it's the only non terrible fantasy strategy game in ages.
And it's slowly getting better. Rome II was complete garbage at release too.
But really, the main problem is how grimderp the setting is. Most of the factions are just not fun.
>>181920547
Total War Asia? Sure.
Just Korea? No fucking way.
>>181915426
>>181916025
>>181916450
that's what you got for stretching your line too much and not using manipular formation.
>Didn't know Belegar had vangard deployment for his whole fucking army.
>Find out just in time for Karak Eight Peaks.
>Underway battle.
>Get
>This
>Map
I think I'll have a greenskin leather coat, a greenskin leather chair, a greenskin face lamp...
>>181920547
Historical Total War needs a strong Euro-centric game with all the cool stuff CA managed to pick-up/learn in recent titles. Fuck that niche China/Korea or whatever bullshit. Even awesome Atilla flopped due it's setting.
Fucking turn 3 and my my only friend declares war on me. Hard luck for Pontus.
>>181921378
>vangard deployment
what's that?
>>181921415
Shogun 2 was the best recent TW.
Another Medieval or even better Renaissance TW would be great, but Asia should also get a game.
>>181921427
>aggressive/devious
Truly the greatest ally.
>>181921526
Guerrilla deployment rebranded to make it sound new
>>181921378
Stupid grouped up bastards.
>>181921526
It's this thing where I'm retarded.
>>181921590
But see, Japan is on another level from the rest of Asian history. Samurais and ninjas actually enjoy mainstream success and there is plenty of honorabu weebs lurking around. West exposed pretty extensively to the Japanese culture so the setting is good. Not to mention Total War begun from that era.
I'm not opposed to the China title in future, but not before modern (in terms of the engine) Medieval-Victoria game. Hey, you can even fit China to the Saga series, because it kinda would be like Shogun in terms of unit diversity, save for Mongols obviously.
>>181921625
Makes perfect fucking sense.
>>181921840
Some people are just cunts.
>>181921826
Asia Total War would be great. You would have a ton of completely different cultures with different units instead or two cultures with very similar units.
Japan, China, India, Mongolia, Thailand. They would all look and play different.
>>181867150
>good empire models replaced
>still no freelancer
Dropped desu
>>181922012
>different cultures with different units
Yeah... No.
I DO NOT want Norsca! They're boring to fight and all of the units are available for Warriors of Chaos!
>>181922172
You're going to get Throgg and like it.
>>181922108
But they're different?
>>181921659
Wheeeeee
Thanks for letting me kill half your garrison on the field, dumbasses!
>>181922331
There is only two kinds of asians, shitskins and chinks.
>>181869482
>Fantasy
>Healthy
Pick one.
>>181922012
There's a lot of varietty but what's the hang up with variety anyway? The best historicals Attila and Shogun 2 have the least unit variety in the series.
>>181922472
But how many kinds of euros are there?
Do Slavs count
>>181881731
That's old lore and from 40k
>>181922727
Definitely more than two. And europeans at least are real humans, not anthropomorphic ants.
>>181922431
>Unique building chain in Karak Eight Peaks is a fucking siege buff.
Fuck off. What was CA thinking? That I was gonna rape, raze, and sack all the way there just to turtle? Poor planning. Poor form.
>>181922864
你傷我心
>>181922901
Use real letters, please.
>>181922864
Sometimes I look at other races and how they live and think or what they achieved and I thinkn whites are the only real humans.
Even asians who are the closest thing to whites have something fucked up to them
>>181896858
Depends on game and cavalry type.
If it's a game where cav are generally flimsy, or your cav is lightly armoured you want them out of there asap.
Melee cav can stay and fight for a bit, shock cav wants to get out quick.
>>181922976
>I thinkn whites are the only real humans
Because that's the truth.
>>181922976
maybe you should look up the list of chinese inventions sometime, if achievements are your only qualifier for 'being human'. Ignorance is never a virtue anon.
>>181922976
Asians were #1 civilization far longer than Whites. And it looks like in half a century they will be #1 again.
>>181923117
Maybe you should learn how to read.
>>181923117
Why did you fall for the bait anon? Let it go and move on my朋友。
Who is ready for China: Total War?
>>181923306
As a Chinese I'd prefer East Asia or opium war. Get the brits involved for maximum lulz
>>181923225
I think you are the one with the literacy problem, along with many other problems one might find on the spectrum.
>>181923219
the benefits of a homogenous and intelligent society.
>>181923219
That's false, the only period asians surpassed whites goes from the 8th century to the 13th
>>181923358
>intelligent society
It's like you never saw an asian. They are fucking barbarians.
>>181923306
I am ready for Total War Sagas: The Chinese Invasion
>>181923306
Pike&Shot or bust
>>181923361
>Prehistory to the beginning of the Roman Empire
>Fall of Western Rome to the 14thC
>>181923353
I have a question for you, why is it that whenever people mention chinese empires they act like they lasted hundreds or even thousands of years?
>>181921625
>>181921840
I think they set everyone to Aggressive/Reliable to start with. If they end up backstabbing someone then Reliable drops to Devious or Treacherous.
>>181923306
Only if I will be able to colonize it and genocide all natives.
Where can I find Steam-compatible downloads for Europa Barbarorum 2 (the Medieval II mod)?
>>181923606
They did that in shogun 2
>>181923606
Supporting this, >>181923306 gib Landsknecht!
>>181923628
The greeks surpassed the chinese culturally and scientifically.
In fact the greeks surpassed everyone even long after their golden age was gone, everyone just forgot about their discoveries.
>>181923361
Europe wasn't able to produce porcelain until the Meissen factory managed in 1710, and Europe didn't have cast iron bridges until the 19th century. Also a lot of the development on Europe was due to Chinese inventions brought back from the silk road and after the Turkish blockading of silk routes into Europe it encouraged colonisation. Human achievement is universal, whites didn't do anything in isolation.
>>181923642
Because muh Han identity
all become Han. Whether you're a Mongol or a Manchu
has anyone made a mod that replaces rebellions in Athel Loren with beastmen incursions? its ridiculous that for most of the WELF campaign you are fighting other elves and not outsiders
>>181923738
They stole a lot of their shit from Middle East.
>>181923785
You sound like black afrocentrists whenever they're presented with the lack of achievements of blacks.
MUH PEANUT BUTTER
Mentioning something irrelevant when everything else was completely lacking behind isn't going to help your argument.
>>181923665
I use the downloads from twcentre and it works just fine
>>181923642
even the smallest states in China were equal in size and population to France Italy and Britain combined, and compared to Europe they were pretty stable.
>>181923642
Ming and Qing at least did. I guess people confuse the Chinese imperial system for a continuous empire
>>181923790
But isn't that something that was pushed by the recent communist regimes?
>>181923910
That's false, also >stable >>181923642 this shit is more unstable than rome during the third century
>>181923883
>if a historical narrative doesn't fit my ignorant views it's irrelevant
yeah I'm thinking your done.
>>181923971
Probably.
>>181923361
Reminder that European explorers exclaimed that the Japanese were white and superior in every aspect of culture save for their religion.
>>181923642
Because they did.
There's a reason the term gunboat diplomacy exists, when your entire country policy can be forced by a few gunboats on your coastline, you know your country fucked up somewhere along the way of human progress.
There's no shame in admitting it.
>>181923971
the 3rd century is an interesting period to point out, as it's often referred to as the 'crisis in the third century'. Not a particularly stable time, and the fourth and fifth centuries are pretty much game over for Rome. Your point is totally moot though, China was no less stable than Rome, and the country remained very stable from the 15th to early 20th century.
>>181908576
HOLA SKEENKS
>>181924149
Indeed there isn't, which is why I'd enjoy the idea of playing a game where the qing or Ming or what have you can be saved instead of following the historical path.
Same idea as playing the WRE in Attila.
>>181924149
The first example on Wikipedia is of the Brits using it against the Greeks.
>>181924239
Every developed country remained stable from that period, it was the birth of nation states, in europe wars of conquests were no longer permanent but simply wars to force the other side to accept terms, it's the reason why Napoleon is so famous, he was the first guy in century that tried to redefine the borders in europe, and, after his defeat everything was intentionally brought back to the state things were before he came to power.
>>181924149
Gunboat diplomacy describes the colkd war up until today, what do you think NATO training in Poland and new battleships, carriers and jet construction means? All countries have their policy dictated by the threat of opposing powers, hell if America was some powerful shithole you really think any European leader woudl go within a mile of Trump? If you thnik that Europe has been above coercion by military displays at any point in its history you are wrong.
>>181923606
>>181923719
Yes please.
>>181924350
What's the point of even pointing out what's the first example on wikipedia, I could go and delete it right now.
Gunboat diplomacy was a thing long before that.
>>181924434
Gunboat diplomacy is only possible if you dwarf the opposing force so much that the mere presence of your technology and firepower can force them to accept whatever terms you impose on them, which is what happened, see inequal treaties when it comes to india, china and Japan.
The humiliation literally brought down monarchies, we didn't even have to lift a finger lol.
We need Judea: Total War
>>181924397
The borders in Europe were constantly shifting, especially in relation to the Balkans, The borders between France and German states, even Britain was changing borders with the act of union. If you are going to assume there was more stability in a Europe of small states constantly at war compared to a cohesive country the size of China then at least address the inconsistencies. If you consider Europe's colonies as well then it only gets worse, borders changed on a daily basis in the Americas, Carribbean, indo-china and the pacific.
Even though I'm white I don't mind a china total war, it could be interesting.
BUT none of that three kingdoms fantasy shit, I want somethign more recent with gunpowder, mongols, koreans and shit, chink vs chink would be boring
>>181925015
Genghis: Total War
>>181924902
You're wrong on both fronts, first of all, the balkans were under ottoman rule for 6 centuries, so I don't get where you go off on saying the borders were shifting there, then the states that were already formed were basically unchanged for hundreds of years, especially france, germany and italy was another matter, since they were not formed at this time.
You have britan, france and spain since the reconquista that were basically unchanged to this day.
>>181924782
shame her face isnt covered as well
>>181925015
>chink versus chink would be boring
Did you enjoy Shogun 2? I'm sure the map would probably encompass Korea and Mongolia anyway but Shogun 2 is regarded as one of the best titles and is way less diverse than any period of China in terms of warfare. Early warfare in Japan was just ritualised horse archery contests, in iron age China they had some of the most powerful crossbows ever made with intricate bronze triggers, armoured chariots, every kind of torsion artillery and heavy cavalry. Any iron age European army would have been a total joke by comparison with slings, bronze shields and poor steel.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV__onzXDIU
>It's an obscure british internal shit documentary
Seriously british history is boring as fuck, they're only fun when they interact with others.
Any recommended documentaries to watch before sleepy times?
>Play as Wood Elves
>Finally take the whole Athel Dickass forest shit
>No amber to spend on anything
What's the point in making your best troops cost amber? 'Want to control some troops that aren't dickass archers? Well you'd better control 30 provinces then.' That's some shit.
>>181925320
White American history is predominantly British history.
>>181925308
>iron age European army
>bronze shields
>iron age - bronze shields
dude...
>>181925308
Yeah but the gooks in shogun 2 had western weapons and tactics too, so there was a bit more variety, it was basically pike and shot yellow edition.
Also shogun 2 isn't very historically accurate, with units of samurai and heroes and all, CA has gotten more accurate (not necessarily better) with recent titles so the new chink tw would have to be boring unless they involve other people
>>181924130
>save for their religion
But Shinto shits all over Christianity.
>>181925408
Really fires up your neurons doesn't it.
>>181925460
Don't be an hipster anon, Christianity is objectively the best religion in the world and the only reason why the world has a semblance of morality now.
>>181925408
Bronze is comparable to iron in performance right
Is this game going to come out on time? Seems like we're drawing awfully close to release and we still haven't had a proper High Elf Trailer.
Dark Elf and Skaven are still nonexistent. I hope they would opt for a delay instead of releasing rushed garbage.
>>181925460
Surprisingly the christians didn't think that way. Especially what with the monks rogering young boys under their care
>>181925510
Christian Europe was a backwards shithole until Protestantism happened.
>>181925124
>unchanged to this day
>what is Gibraltar, RoI, Portugal, Greece etc
There's probably some youtube vid of changing borders in Europe, compare it to China and it'll look positively manic.
>>181925389
"""White"""" """American""" ""History"" is predominantly Irish, Italian, and German.
>>181925550
Yea.
It's not as sturdy though, and bends quite a bit.
Though, thanks to that it's less likely to break and you could just bend it over your knee if you needed to.
Betcha 2 charlies an a half jabber we get nothing today
>>181925510
Western morality isn't inherently right, it's just what we've accepted it as such.
>>181925308
Lol charios were obsolete by the 4th century in european and north african conflicts.
Chariots only existed because horses were too weak to carry horsemen, speaking of weak horses
>>181925015
>>181925067
>>181925308
Honestly, they should just be putting these teams onto the third Warhammer game. History total wars are shit. Warhammer is the future of the series.
>>181925408
Iron age armies continued to use bronze and brass well into the 1st millennium AD. You ever checked a wire, it's made out of copper. People exploit different properties of metals, the iron age doesn't mean everyone used iron for everything.
>>181925732
That is what anti eurocentrism revisionsim would have you believe, anything european wasn't inherently right.
Funny though that they can't ever present an alternative that would be better, because they know it would be inhuman to suggest something other than christian morality.
>>181925672
Portugal is as constant as Spain, if not more. As for modern republics, they kind of shit on the ages old concept of land being tied to a title and tiny packets of land like Gibraltar hardly count as large territorial change
Paganism would be better
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>>181925771
>The negroes show terror and surprise, when they see a horse
>>181925835
because it isn't Christian it's the amalgamation of all European ideas, systems and law over time. Bare Christianity is as alien to Europe as Islam is, which is why today Atheists like to point out absurd parts of the Bible or the countless inconsistencies which logic-another European concept-deems ridiculous.
>>181925939
gook, put your trip back on pls
>>181925967
Christianity, Catholicism specifically is mostly just a bastard child of Germanic/Gaulic Paganism and Christianity.
Almost every holiday is descended from Pagan origins, with a nice coat of Jesus washed over it.
>>181923642
This makes me interested in Korean history. How did they not get buttfucked by china throughout all of that?
>>181925967
Funny enough atheists always point out the old testament, which isn't what christians believe in, since christ brought the new testament
Yeah modern day morals are a mix of everything, and that mix happened because the Roman state and people like st.paul were concerned with intergrating christianity with existing religions and values, and it worked, then they added the concept of charity, piety, love the other like you would yourself etc. which aren't necessarily followed by everyone, but are THERE, in the back of everyone's mind.
When you think about doing something bad, you don't immediately think about the consequence because of the law, you think that it would be something bad to do, that is because western values are based on christian ones, and because they have spread all over the world, since everyone started imitating westeners in their style of life, dress codes etc.
You conciously or subconciously imitate something that is extremely succesful, of course imitations can never be perfect and there's always a residue of the previous culture permeating the new one.
>>181926114
China tried once but for the most part relations have been pretty good. I think China had other things to deal with. They really liked going after the Tibetans, Vietnamese, and other southeast Asians.
>>181926114
China was extremely incompetent when it came to fighting non chinks.
High Elves trailer when. Dark Elf information when. Historical something when. Anything at all when.
>>181926290
I like how you didn't mention the rats.
Not that there is anything to mention there, rodents don't exist anyway.
>>181926114
China preferred to make tributary states and the like rather than bother directly owning the area.
>>181926326I don't care about Skaven. The fanbase soured me on them long before TW:WH.
>>181926290
The fact that this game is supposed to release in 83 days and we still don't have any information on half the races concerns me.
>>181926339
What was the tributary state when they got BTFO by japan in every conflict they had? A country much smaller and isolated?
>>181926182
Actually I lied. The qing dynasty kinda fucked over the Koreans. So did the yuan but I don't know if you consider either of those "Chinese" dynasties.
Ming was bros with Korea but some accounts say their troops did plenty of collateral during the imjin war when fighting the Japanese.
The Koreans in general seemed to have accepted their place in the world at the time. They're sometimes described as being the Irish of the Far East for getting screwed by all the surrounding powers.
http://www.dramasrok.com/2012/02/china-korea-ruling-dynasties-relations-chart/
>>181926386
Because there's nothing to say, screencap this, since the "unique " """""mechanics""""" will be literally old shit rebranded or faction traits from previous TW
Boy I can't wait for the UNIQUE RATWAYS AND DISEASE, or the UNIQUE SLAVE SYSTEM FOR DELVES.
You already have the influence system for Helves, which is a literal ripoff from a lot of 4X games that use influence as a currency in diplomacy, except diplomacy in those games is usually not barebones like it is in warhammer
SCREAMING EAGLES
>>181926386
They will show everything right before release to boost sales.
>>181926469
>becomes hermit kingdom after the qing come into power
Wait... Pretty sure they did have some kind of relationship with the qing
>>181921030
>but why the fuck can't CA into nice high res ground textures?
#NotEveryTW
>>181925713
>"""White"""" """American""" ""History"" is predominantly Irish, Italian, and German.
That's bullshit though.
Even if we were only talking about genetic ancestry. Those are just the three highest white immigration to the US groups in "recent" history, discounting British origins entirely.
Besides which US cultural and political identity is directly influenced by its British origins, evolved over the last couple of hundred years with various immigration and wars. You've got things like the Magna Carta influencing your Constitution.
How do I use wizards as Empire? I don't see a point to them considering how clunky they are.
How should I protect artillery? By having one unit of Halberdiers standing right next to them at all times, or just move them closer to the mainline infantry?
Should I ever recruit Demigryphs with Lances, or always stick to the ones with Halberds?
Does the Griffon for Empire lords function the same way as Deathclaw does for Karl Franz?
>>181926939
use wizards for buffs, dont fight with them. sit them behind your main lines and forget about them. maybe get him a horse for escaping/.
>>181926870
To be fair, the Magna Carta is a giant meme as evidenced by how differently (and sometimes contradictorily) the Americans and British use it.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/20/the-rule-of-history
Secondly, America's legal heritage is a massive clusterfuck. The British Bill of Rights and Magna Carta influenced it significantly, but so did the ideas of Rousseau, the foundations of the Dutch Republic, knowledge of the Roman Republic and especially the ideas of Montesquieu*, to the point where the US Constitution can pretty much be described as a copypaste of his ideas. British influence was there, no doubt, but America was from the very start (at least legally) very much its own thing.
*And before you claim that Montesquieu was describing the British system, the Founding Fathers themselves put this myth to rest in the Federalist Papers. The Separation of powers in the UK was far from how Montesquieu described it: the king could appoint and dismiss judges at will and had the exclusive right of initiative, which only made parliament a stamp machine rather than a true legislative power (which is still the case in the UK, with the only difference being that the PM now has a democratic mandate. That's why the UK is sometimes described as an elective dictatorship [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_dictatorship]).
>>181926407
Not every time. A combined Tang and Silla force fucked over a combined Baekje and Yamato force
>>181926939
>How do I use wizards as Empire?
Right one for the job, i.e Light Wizards against undead. More useful as buffers and debuffers when not for a specific purpose.
>How should I protect artillery?Doesn't always work out well for meI use one of the cav units that I use to strike random targets of opportunity. If I see someone going for them, I'll intercept.
>Should I ever recruit Demigryphs with Lances
I just stick with halberds, but I never recruit more than two to begin with. More experienced chicken riders can probably tell you more.
>Does the Griffon for Empire lords function the same way as Deathclaw does for Karl Franz?
Not sure what you mean, but if you're talking about their capability as a fighter, yes. They're not as powerful as a LL of course.
>>181926939
>>181926939
I always use 2 in my army light to cast the net (great for minators or a cav charge) and the green one lore of life i think, has great heals for your men, get them on flying mounts to keem em safe.
Protecting arty depends on the fight you should be fine as long as you kill all their doggos/cav with your cav, flying units are harder to deal with tho.
Always use the halberd ones no question.
Yeah but not as strong.
>>181927384
How do I get Lore of Life as Empire?
>>181927487
Jade Wizard. The single best one you could have really.
The voice actor for Louen Leoncoeur sounds like the guy CA used for Napoleon in NTW
Any other carried over voice actors?
>>181927381
is this an artistic representation of the imaginary rodent know as "rat"?
>>181927663
Franz was in the Hannibal trailer for Rome 2.
>>181927663
most of them actually, the advisor from Attila is one of the generic empire voices in warhammer, a lot of the unit voices are also by the same VA
>>181927528
What? I only have the options of Wild, Fire, Light and Heaven.
>>181928154
ahh may be DLC bud
>>181928234
I thought I installed all of them godfuckingdamnit.
Can I install it mid-playthrough?
>>181927952
THEY MUST BE PUNISHED
>>181928234
>>181928154
is the lore of magic available but no wizard in it?
>>181928267
Did you install the FLC too?
>>181928267
think so
>>181926584
>tfw playing on low and my great eagles look like this
am I the only one that find that the "chaos" invasion gimick makes it boring?
I mean all the games end with me controlling a lot of land and fielding huge armies and everyone else getting destroyed by chaos because they are simply too small to defend themselves. It would be way more interesting if the game would encourage some factions to grow big as well, thus providing for an end game where 2 or 3 large factions are fighting each other (plus chaos).
>>181928639
But that already happens - Dorfs sometimes completely take over the Badlands, while Vampires take the entire Empire.
>>181928267
It's part of the FLC, did you install it from the store?
I-Imperator-Sama...
>>181929058
Fuck Firaxis for choosing that shitty art design for Civ 6. Fucking idiots.
>>181928820
so far I played dwarfs, orcs and empire
in my dwarf and orc game never saw the vampires "overtake" the empire before chaos was unstopabble. The game ended being me in my corner sending armies to fight chaos while everyone else was crumbling.
In my empire game I think dwarf was strong, but since they were never my enemies it didnt really matter. It would have been more interesting if late game dwarfs had antagosnitic objectives to the empire thus forcing them to confront each other
>>181929286
Hoe does Civ 6 compare to Civ 4?
queen bess v1
>>181929286
Is it worth picking up at all?
>>181929286
Art design is the least of Civ6's problems.
>>181930052
meh, I'd wait for expansions, its way to easy and kinda boring now, does have potential though
>>181908576
Grimgor looking smug.
>>181925794
yeah but bronze is much softer than iron so using bronze for shields doesn't make much sense when you have iron weapons. you are better with wood reinforced with iron.
also wire is made of copper beacuse it utilises it's conductivity - using its strong point. that analogy is really stupid.
>>181927289
A lot of the main thinkers and idealists from the revolution committed suicide shortly after. The tyranny of Napoleon was one reason since out of their supposed triumph of the rights of man a tyrant arose, but also because they realised a constitution is always a contradiciton of rights and that money was a new tyranny. God knows what they'd make of the US today, if it even surprised them.
>>181926713
>high res shaders for cobblestones
>2004 tier shaders for grass and dirt
for what purpose
>>181930782
forged beaten bronze is pretty much equal to Iron in terms of it's hardness and it is much more ductile and easier to repair. Iron's qualities only really shine when you alloy it with carbon to make steel and start manipulating the structure using tempering. Also bronze was easier to mold and you could make a lot more of it with less input than iron, so bulky objects like shields, helmets and chestpieces continued to be made from bronze until mid aintiquity when steel mail took over and shields were entirely laminated.
>>181926939
>Should I ever recruit Demigryphs with Lances, or always stick to the ones with Halberds?
Not unless you really want to.
If you need a cav to mop up infantry, just go for Reiksguard; more models means they're better at killing lots of fodder.
How should I protect artillery? By having one unit of Halberdiers standing right next to them at all times, or just move them closer to the mainline infantry?
If you're facing a lot of fast cav, flyers or vamps capable of summoning, have a halberd or two on standby. Otherwise you'll be fine with keeping your line nearby.
>How do I use wizards as Empire?
As others have said, Light and Life work best.
Shadow can be useful for dealing magic damage against vamps and Welves.
>>181926939
>Does the Griffon for Empire lords function the same way as Deathclaw does for Karl Franz?
Similar, but not quite as good.
If you team him up with a capatin on pegasus he can wreck most enemy lords though.
Honestly, he works best when rearcharging/terrorbombuíng engaged enemies or polishing off skirmishers.
>>181930782
Iron's only superior factor for the longest time was being dirt cheap, since it was more or less available everywhere; bronze production often involved long and expansive trade chains.
You need to actually turn iron into steel and harden/heat treat it to make it better than bronze, which took people a good while to figure out.
>>181928440
Looks like battle for Middleearth desu.
>>181930000
Looking nice, and grats on the quads
>>181930000
Hmm, if you're going for a pirate theme, why not slap some algae/barnacles textures on that?
>>181931578
Can't import new assets in warhammer goy
>>181931646
Erm, do you not know what a texture is?
>>181931708
What's A Texture
>>181931792
An image file that gets mapped over the the ingame models,friend.
>>181931578
>>181931578
hey anon I tried, can't really go so far as the lightmaps get weird about it
here is v2 though
>>181930789
Wut? I see no relation to the post you're responding to.
>>181931358
Well to be honest I thought that carbon was naturally added to iron while smelting it and it was only a matter of amount since when you have too carbon much you end up with hard but brittle cast iron and not steel.
>>181928346
What is FLC?
>>181932209
Hmm, strange.
Not at home right now, but I'll try around a bit when I get home.
>>181932620
Free-DLC
>>181932620
Free dlc. http://store.steampowered.com/app/551820/Total_War_WARHAMMER__Jade_Wizard/
>>181932504
Sorry; should have said it took people a long time to figure out the right amount of carbon.
>>181932209
As long as this guy doesn't go anywhere you've got my vote.
>>181932648
to specify I mean as the whole metal set has a shine map, editing the some brine in will inevitably make it ..shiny.
>>181932972
he's in for good.
infact here is the high res screeny for your viewing pleasure
But as a question How do I make my cannon models only apply to a faction only. it's not the same method as importing regular textures I assume as there is no cannon.variantmesh file. if somone could help I'd be much obliged
>>181925389
Comparatively Wood Elves have an easy time finishing their campaign without having the conquer half the continent like the rest so it's kind of okay.
And you can get a ton of melee units without spending any amber. Including top tier units like wildwood rangers
>>181932292
just pointing out that most of the idealism behind the American constitution was outed as false and misguided, but that's inherent to all idealism.
Hey I'm thinking of doing an AAR Rome 2 campaign with DEI.
Recommend me a nation and some goals (though I'm leaning towards a barbarian nation).
>>181908576
Attila in maid dress
>>181925389
>best troops cost amber
Wild Riders cost no amber for both Elves and Trees.
>83 sleeps left
>>181934019
Don't forget the Old Friend next month and Norsca sometime too
>>181926503
>since the "unique " """""mechanics""""" will be literally old shit rebranded or faction traits from previous TW
You saying this for all mechanics?
>>181934174
Is Norsca confirmed? That's kind of dissapoonting I wanted that Empire rework
>>181934207
Every last mechanic. Even the younglings.
>>181934351
Empire only lack alternative starting position.
NOTHING TODAY
AGAIN
>go away from /twg/ in the hopes of STUFF
>still no new stuff
Welp guess I'll see you lads some other day
>>181934524
>>181934567
When was the last time there were STUFF upon the Friday?
>>181926503
>You already have the influence system for Helves, which is a literal ripoff from a lot of 4X games that use influence as a currency in diplomacy, except diplomacy in those games is usually not barebones like it is in warhammer
Come on now. Influence is a pretty new mechanic in a Total War game and that is what is important. If Total War can't take anything from other games then we can't have anything basically. E.G Catapults have been done before total war. You are being unreasonable.
>>181931708
You can't import new assets
>>181918818
We care about /v/'s opinions? Thought they also share on Attila and everything not Med 2
>>181918818
>turns out it's even worse trash
Is the game already out?
>>181934604
One missive, for a DLC if I remember correctly, was a friday and the trailer followed on monday
Ratposter you know what to do. >>181926326
>>181934604
Last Friday
>>181934669
DIid your mother drop you as a baby?
>>181934624
>You are being unreasonable.
Look at who you're responding to lad.
>>181934689
Half of them shat on Attila and the other half don't know it exists.
>>181934470
For being the flagship and most played faction it could do with a lot more
How long have we been waiting on Old Friend?
>>181935225
Since Bretonnia launched at the end of February.
>>181935225
Around 184 tomorrows
>>181935078
Ya I got that feeling. They tend to go for the most shitpost or normie of positions.
>>181934689
>share
I meant shat.
>>181935305
>Half a year for what they described as a "small little addition"
Why? HOW?
>>181933363
Dacians or Thracians
>>181933378
Kek
>>181908576
yeah, anything of your choice in a maid dress
>>181935112
>most played
Most boring you mean.
>a lot more
Like what?
>old friend is a new blood dlc
I swear it's the truth! MY DAD WORKS AT SEGA!
>>181935523
More ways to interact with fellow Empire provinces, off the top of my head.
>the only interesting information is the campaign video
>everything else is literally plebbit tier rat memes facebook posts
>>181935604
How do you want to interact with them?
>>181935370
I TOLD YOU MONTHS AGO
THEY ARE SAVING IT TO MAKE THE DLC EASIER TO SWALLOW FOR THE GOOD GOYS
How many fucking times do I have to repeat it?
>>181935370
They have been sitting on it to coincide with some event this summer.
>>181935576
Damn, can't argue with that.
>>181935576
Wrong. It is going to be the updated launcher they showed off before release. Darren even admitted that it was still coming a few months back.
>>181935523
>Most boring you mean.
Wrong
>>181935401
Falxes best weaponfu
Is Ancient Empires ever going to come out?
>>181936868
After tomorrow
>>181936868
We'll probably have Rome 3 before it does.
>>181936609
>just a bunch of people in silly clothes
>fun
>>181936994
Shit taste you double hafling
>Fearful trait triggers if you avoid melee combat
>Karl Franz spent whole battle in thick of enemy formation
>ended with 100+ kills
>gets Fearful anyway
I guess manoeuvring for a new target considered to be the action worthy of stinky Goblin.
>>181937097
>Shit taste
Yeah, that's right words to describe empire.
>>181936768
This. Also no armoured units proves your strategic thinking. You can't just spam hammer and anvil.
>>181937165
t. the Moot representative
>>181935893
But Old Friend and the FLC coming alongside Norsca have already been said to be different. So you saying it doesn't make it a thing.
No news today? This week has been a real big nothing burger.
At least last week we got the neat little adventure game.
>>181937414
But Anon, what about the exciting Total War Saga announcement!
>>181928154
Have you installed them?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/551821/Total_War_WARHAMMER__Grey_Wizard/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/551820/Total_War_WARHAMMER__Jade_Wizard/
>>181937201
Yeah once you get a heavily armoured front line DEI becomes a joke.
I've been doing some digging through the pack file manager and found some interesting things.
Macedon has short and long pikes, long are standard pikes while short have the armour piercing and shield piercing tags.
In practice though the extra range on long pikes is far more effective, even against the heaviest infantry around.
>>181933343
Sauce on all those suicides? Never heard of it before.
Gobbos op, nerf pls...
>No engine cinematic for HE
>No lew elves info
>No skaven info
>No old friend
>No info on pre-order dlc for Warhammer 2
>No info on race pack coming before Warhammer 2
What time to be alive
GODDAMMIT CA YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS! Where the hell is the info? This is completely undoing the good job they did with WH1 and going back to Rome 2 levels of secrecy and fuckery
>>181938195
Are the CA afraid to show anything in fears of unreasonable hype (Old Friend) or they just really fucked up development?
>>181938195
Relax brah its not like anybody is gonna "buy" it, am I right? ;)
Where should i go as himyar? should i just challenge ere for alendria or the sassynids?
WHY NO INFO
>>181938415
Take Egypt and peace out with ERE if you can, then remove Sassanid.
>>181938527
High Elf and Dark Elf trailers will be released at the same time.
>>181938415
You do it just like in reallife you BTFO the shitskin soon to be muslims and then you constantly cry about the a bit later to come holocaust. So that all goyims will be under your foot.
>>181938553
But if i go take egypt and declare war to ERE dont they just send doom stacks straight away to me?
>>181938628
Yeah, on game's release.
>>181938751
No, 6 months after release
>>181938628
>Trailers share the same event, just different perspective
would be cool.
>>181938693
Send a scout out to see if there's anything up the coast. Last time I did that they were too busy with the Sassanids.
>not playing an already fully fleshed out total war warhammer with every race
u did it 2 urself senpai
>>181938809
Another month of the battle at fallen gates.
>>181938809
I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that since dark elves and high elves are the two factions which are probably best known for having a rivalry between each other, and also given the background
It also means CA doesn't have to do twice the work
>>181938946
That mod is impressive but there are a lot of wonky things in it, like all the flying animations and how slann are just really strong mortars that get carted around everywhere
>>181938774
CA's new schemes are beyond me.
>>181938846
It does seem ERE is not in war with sassynids at the moment, i guess ill just build up my economy and go after them when they declare war
>>181938946
Shame about the vanilla engine. Also what the fuck did they do to the map in the newest update. It got all compressed and shit.
>>181938946
>Tfw you're in an WHF mood and going back to watch old trailers from games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5enBMSH5ghc
>>181938946
I have played it a lot though. The scope is neat, but the campaign is really fucking boring and battles are wonky.
>>181937201
So classic barbarian charge only?
>>181939059
>slann are just really strong mortars that get carted around everywhere
I found this way more hilarious than I should.
ayyy fuckin' radical
>>181939261
It is pretty funny how they just float up and down a bit, completely motionless otherwise, then they fire a single shot that completely destroys a whole unit
>>181938303
probably fears of announcing the preorder dlc but it is unusual. If they are so concerned they could just load July with safe Dark elf trailers.
>>181939109
Huh. Go have a look at what the white huns are up to then, if they're dicking the sassanids hard enough you might be able to sneak a few cities off them.
>>181939317
That looks fucking retarded.
>>181938946
>M2
Not touching it anymore, not even with a 10 feet pole
>>181939487
i guess ill take arabia magna then, dont want to deal with empire doomstacks at the moment
>>181938946
>blobfest
No.
wheres the STUFF
>>181933183
Kinda works?
>>181939987
up your BUM
>>181939317
I had a bug where spellsinger T-posed on her eagle for a while. Was pretty funny. Eagle didn't seem to mind.
>>181938946
I like that Slann design more.
>>181934351
oh shit, thats way better looking than i got in my tests on brine, did you use a custom brush>?
>>181939254
Dacia has an emphasis on missiles, falxes and cheap units.
Low armour and no shields means if you send the falxes in first they won't be coming back out.
Generally you would send in a wave of chaff spear or swords while your cavalry or missiles take out the back line. When your first line begins to break, or their missiles are dead, send in a second wave of falxes/harder swords/axes.
So is warhammer 2 going to be an add-on to warhammer 1? Only asking to see if I should invest in some of the overpriced dlc available for 1..
>no news today
>>181940927
It's standalone, but you can "merge" the two games and have a really big campaign map.
>>181940927
You answered yourself using those words, if you think they're overpriced don't take them until they cost less. Good job missing the sale anyway.
>>181940927
They will be incompatible
>>181864872
>>181941096
>>181938415
You give Aksum land back to Aksum because you taking over Aksum is not historically accurate!
>>181941139
The Burning Bu-.. err... The Burning Tree!
>>181941262
You CANNOT stop my rampage of disinfo.
>so much lack of info that I had to resort to history games
such travesty is unheard of
>>181941432
>>181941395
Well if you're not going to listen to Michael Jordan in a McDonalds sponsored anti-drug advert I don't know what I can do
>>181941686
The only baller I listen to is Charles Barkley.
No stuffs today?
>>181941768
Look at this man anon.
He wants you to stop anon.
Stop making Charles Barkley sad anon.
>>181941926
There will never be any stuffs again.
Total war games will just appear on the steam store with no marketing or announcements whatsoever.
>>181941956
I'm sorry Barkley. I promised I wouldn't tell fibs on the internet, but the excitement of tricking others is too alluring.
>>181940701
It is basically shock and awe faction. Your aim is to rout enemy as quick as possible because you have nothing to withstand prolonged combat.
That means bait and divide with skirmishers and cav, than engaging with mediocre spears, than raping enemy's back with flaxes and shock cav.
Beating strong, armoured, high morale enemy like Rome feels great.
Elf trailer where?
Fallen gates was kind of a boring battle
>>181942535
Never.
>>181941926
No more stuffs.. it's over.. another.. weekend.. no stuffs..
>>181941926
>>181943512
Relax! Next week is the week :)
>>181942028
CA's new marketing strategy is truly beyond us mere asinine mortals.
>Release ONE kinda bland battle and a trailer focusing on.one race out of 4
>A very short flyover
>And thats it
3 months away from release
Great pacing from their marketing team
>>181943980
How many months of High Elf CRAP have we had to endure now? Three? Four? I need my cyanide pill, doc.
>>181943980
Don't forget that they are selling a preorder bonus without saying what is actually in it. They showed the whole Chaos Warriors' roster 6 months from release for Warhammer 1, but god forbid they even say what race they are selling 3 months from release for Warhammer 2.
"More info soon" my fucking ass. It has been a month since E3 and they haven't said a thing about the race pack since.
>>181944198
It's barely been over a month though. May was Lizardmen, just some Helves shown as the enemy in their trailer. Just feels so long because it's been a month of dripfeeding concept art.
>post yfw it gets delayed
>>181945032
I would rather it be delayed than shipped too early and unfinished.
>>181944198
But anon, aren't you excited about their 'always strikes first rules' which will translate into syncronised animations with insane attack speed which will shred enemy ranks like bu-...oh, sorry, went on a flight of fantasy. Nothing to see here...it was just a dream.
>>181945182
I had a dream I did a shit that lasted too long and no matter how much I wiped, I was unable to fully be clean
>>181945182
Please anon
Stop poking the wound
Martial Prowess is shit and the Helf buffs are shit
And worse of all
Human animations for everything but the spearmen
>>181945067
Same.I'd just like words about it too. Any words.
Is it possible to disable the chaos invasion somehow? I find Archeon mostly annoying, his armies are predictable and I always have to create armies specifically to fend off Archeon. Its really annoying.
>>181945408
The white lions have their own animations. I like the way they point at the enemy while in combat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/6luezk/a_total_war_saga_qa/
Does it count as S T U F F? Q&A about Saga business.
>>181946685
you do NOT joke about stuff, anon
THEY ARE DOING TOTAL WAR SAGAS!
HISTORY WON!
THE MONEY THAT COULD BE USED TO DO "TWENTY" JABBERSLYTHE TIER UNITS ARE NOW USED TO DO AN HISTORICAL GAME
FANTASY KEKS BTFO
REPEAT
FANTASY KEKS BTFO
A
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A
S
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C
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C
K
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B
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F
O
AAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
*Laugh at them*
>>181947445
all thank to third world subhumans who whined endlessly in the steam reviews because their 200$ a year couldn't afford them the full WH experience. Thanks a lot, you Chinese wankers!
>>181947445
>*Laugh at them*
You know how I know you're /v/ermin?
>>181947445
EPIC POSTING!
>>181947595
The chinks only complained about no localization 2bh
I'm confused. Does TW Saga™ mean that we won't get full scale historical TW but rather small campaigns like Charlemagne for full price?
So for example there will never be Med 3, instead we get 4 different mini campaigns each spanning 50 years or so?
Am I just paranoid?
>>181948135
It just means a smaller scale of scope. A singular time of war instead of say, Rome spreading across the land to obtain clay. It also doesn't mean there will never again by a mainline history title again, anyone who thinks so needs to turn in his tinfoil hat.
>>181947745
>The chinks only complained about no localization 2bh
You see them complain no matter what you do.
>game has no chinese
>rrrrgh no chinese
>game has simplified chinese
>rrrrrgh why simplified
>game has traditional chinese
>rrrrgh why no [my specific dialect]
You can't please the little shits.
A new power is rising. Its victory is at hand. This night the land will be stained with the blood of Rohan. March to Helm's Deep. Leave none alive. To war!There will be no dawn for Men
I fucking love Isengard
>Industrialism theme
>That design with white hand banners
>Removing ents, elves, horsefuckers, hobbits and all those nature-loving fucks
>Starts with only one settlement so it's not borning like campaign in every strategy game when you start with massive territory.
>Pikes and crossbows
>>181920775
>Is that the guy Sabaton sang about in Gott Mit Uns?
lion from the north
>>181942494
I found that to be the case playing the Getae in Europa Barbarorum. It was always a case of making the enemy charge you by skirmishing them to hell and back, then cutting them down when they're tired with incredibly vicious falxmen. If you can wear them out then those shock troops can do the damage they need to do without suffering too much in return.
>>181949123
but pikes in medieval 2 suck
>>181950534I knowBut they are still cool
>>181950534
>tfw know this
>still fall for pike focused med2 mods/factions.
>rage quit every time
I did manage to "fix" them one time with modding, but that was long ago.
>>181949123
>Removing ents, elves, horsefuckers, hobbits and all those nature-loving fucks
But they canonically didn't remove shit? They burned some trees and villages.
>>181950817
That's what I will fix
>>181950357
It's micro heavy but fun. It's hard to predict battle result as it is dependant on terrain a lot. I love Date from S2 as well for similar strategy with no-dachi samurai.
>>181951009
Oy vey.
what does this mean in rome 2, is it as long as I have greek culture I can recruit these units, or only in this province I can recruit these units. Also is it worth killing Syracuse early on if I want to conquer Africa or should I keep them as client state to get greek hoplites
>>181951146
Get rid of Syracuse. They spread greek culture that causes unrest in your latin provincies.
>>181951329
>>181951146
forgot pic
And I'm Punic culture
>>181951554
Sorry I never played DeI so I'm not sure. My guess is it is region dependant AOR units.
>>181951032
It is a lot more fun than either the typical Roman or Macedonian tactics, although you can't fault the beauty of the manipular formation.
>>181951146
>>181951554
Get rid of Syracuse, you have other options for decent and better hoplites. The main reason to keep client states is if you have armies on the border who can't get decent troops otherwise.
Also those are region specific troops. DeI has an area of recruitment system like Europa Barbarorum.
>>181952004
They're Hellenic so where has better Hoplites, and is it a good plan to puppet Iberia and then fight Egypt
HOW DO I EVEN FUCKING GET JADE WIZARDS AS EMPIRE?
>>181952516
same place as the other wizards anon
>>181952610
I have the DLC installed, but I only have Amber, Fire, Light and Heaven as options.
I captured Gineard in first turn and in this one i will take Bregnas, then i will probably siege this Derwath if Gondor won't be faster. After this i will prepare myself for inevitable war with Rohan. I don't want to expand to the east like i usually do with Isengard, though. I want to finally raze Hobbiton. I will probably expand to Edoras, sent my forces to the west and leave the rest of ruined Rohan for the Mordor.
But now i have togo to work
>>181952516
Have you downloaded the FLC, you need to launch TWWH, then click on the DLc on the frontpage and then click on the DLc then quit TWWH and it will install
You get them from the college of mages
>>181952004
So I can remove hellenic culture there and i'll be fine?
>>181952674
have you enabled it
>>181952729
What is "FLC" every1 keeps talking about?
>>181952864
The free dlc such as Wurzag and empire wizards.
>>181864778
What is his endgame?
Is he the real prime mover in the Warhammer universe?
>>181952950
I have all the DLC:s, it says "Installed" next to them on the steam page for the game. On occasion I have been given a Grey Wizard as that free wizard reward from that quest, so I know that one works. But I can't seem to be able to recruit them after I build the highest tier mage building in Altdorf
>>181953062
Did you start this campaign before installing the Jade Wizard?
>>181953062
Have you started a new game since installing the FLC?
>>181953170
I never played TWW before installing the game and all the DLC.
>>181953208
Yes, I'm still new to TW so I get my shit kicked in and start new campaigns all the time.
>>181951554
You always want to have your culture high. You can still recruit local units so you don't miss out on anything.
>>181952103
Sicily has Cretan archers and Thelessian cavalry which are both great. I suspect you'll get a scripted event if you take Syracuse where Rome will war dec you.
You should pick up some Scutarii and Baleric slingers from Iberia as well.
>>181953401
Hmm, I would suggest you try to verify the integrity of the local files through steam. Something might have gone wrong when they got installed.
>>181952729
Yes, the AoR units are independent of your culture. Unlock better AoR units by leveling the town/city in the area.
>Get trait description mod
>Gives Bretonnian trait explanations to all factions
>Play Wood Elves
>Throw Orion headfirst into melee in every battle
>Always gets 100+ kills
>Trait gained: Fearful
>[Avoided melee during a battle]
Okay now it works. I guess it's time to demolish that Kilns and get a College.
I guess verifying the game through Steam worked, thanks man.
Total War will fix traits in 2100 ok?
>>181942494
I think I'm going to have to start a new game as them next. Got faster battles on as well, it's going to be a very bloody campaign.
Drowning the world in shitty spears and falxes.
>>181954612
Meant to reply to >>181954410
Post Warhammer mods that are 10/10. I'lll start.
>>181925460
Dick Worship is the best religion.
>>181954940
I enjoy SFO. Them suddenly adding new units(other than variations of existing ones) was kinda lame. They don't look that bad though and the Knight Panther unit was welcomed(they had a chapter building in vanilla).
Okay, I'm back with one more question.
Untainted:
Characters - 6
Buildings and commandments - 12
Osmosis - 2
Local populance - 4
Vampiric Corruption
Osmosis - 2
Vampiric corruption 6.3%
TRENDING TOWARDS 7.7%
HOW THE FUCK?
>>181926137
>Funny enough atheists always point out the old testament, which isn't what christians believe in, since christ brought the new testament
Not quite.
>>181955295
Well, 2 is more than 8% of 24
>>181954612
Surthas beginning to grow on me a bit, I hope he doesn't get replaced by an LL like the Karak Izor and Carcassone Lords.
>>181955295
There is a cap probably. That vampiric corruption increase will slow down considerably though.
>>181955468
>>181955528
No, it will just tend to 8.33%
>>181955528
>vampiric corruption increase will slow down considerably
As soon as it ruins your public order.:^)
>>181955295
It's not a direct + and - relationship with corruption, it's a % of total
>>181955468
....What?
>>181955528
But my anti-corruption stuff is much higher than their corruption. Why isn't it going down to 0?
>>181955295
First we add all the corruption modifiers together:
6 + 12 + 2 +4 + 2 = 26
Next, we find out what percentage 2 out of 26 is
2 * 100 / 26 = 7.7 %
And that is what we call mathematics.
This is also the reason you can never completely remove corruption from any province as long as there is a source that affects it.
>>181955775
I (>>181955671 >>181955468) am fucking retarded, I counted 24
>>181955775
Oh it works like that, that's retarded.
I'm so building a Cathedral of Sigmar in every capital.
>>181954681
I suggest not to expand towards the east as there are tons of horsefuckers with their ranged cav and endless plains and it could end up very bloody.
>>181955967
Or just build a tavern for 1/3 of the price.
Dragons are AESTHETIC
>>181956983
Phoenixes are going to outdo them.griffons a best
>>181957956
>no ss with Deathclaw-Tan and Karl-Kun
We need to kidnap some drawfags from /tg/
>>181954940
This and radious are my favorites xD
>>181958519
Go play custom battles with glory mod you double goblin
Wow, so this week was histfag week, huh? All those autist youtubers finally got their word in at CA. Hope they put them back in the closet and continue with respectable, high-res Warhammer showcases now that they've thrown them a bone re their precious 'historic' fantasies.
>>181953445
What tier does my settlement need to be to unlock the Cretan archers and cav
Do I need to take Syrakousai to unlock these as well?
>>181960004
Isnt history fags mad because history now is basically a spin off game?
>>181953445
so I can get funditores from the start in Iberia, but what about these Scutarrii? Do I need to upgrade the settlment?
>>181960434
The main history title is still being worked on by a different team
>>181960434
>Just a quick note - this is NOT our next major historical title, but instead this is just like Napoleon or Fall of the Samurai in that it’s a standalone spin-off from a previous big era game.
>>181960004
>>181960434
Public service announcement to respond to baiters with anime girls.
>>181960548
>>181960516
>>181960612
I was only pretending to be retarded
>>181960939
Too late.
So what do you think about Saga?
>>181961203
Kewl, I wonder what the "pivotal moments" will be
>>181961203
Depends what it is, really
It can't have the scope or expansiveness of a mainline game so it has to be a cool period of history or it has to be well done for me to care about it
What's the Attila team working on?
>>181960242
>>181960474
ANYONE?
DeI
Crying in fear roman just about to get the bcc
>>181961830
Dude, just look into DeI threads in TW center. I doubt people here know requierments for every AOR unit in the game.
>>181864872
>>181961203
The series may benefit from a more focused approach. Instead of "Medieval" just focus on the Norman Conquests or the Plantagenets.
>>181961754
Main historical title I believe
There's probably a lot of movement between different teams as they're needed, though
>>181961830
Try upgrading the main settlement.
>>181963321
shall try
>>181963693
you get auxiliary cretan archers from crete
>>181928440
I feel your pain, when I played attila chainmail looked like grey shirts
>>181964681
Really anon I thought they colonised the canary Islands
>>181937980
yeah I think there was a macedon rework a while back as part of an overall greece rework, I read it a long time ago
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?753333-Divide-et-Impera-1-2-1-Hellenic-Overhaul-Released!
here's a link to the details
>>181964681
Nani?!
>>181935927
>events
is that what we call DLC now?
Annoyed the ambush didn't work, a rear charge will be interesting with my hoplites
>>181927663
He's actually a voice actor from the french version cast
Playing Attila TW for the first time. 70 turns into the game and I've now noticed that the Picts are controlling the North-Western Turkey, so all the lands immiediately below Constantinopole (which is controlled by Roman Separatists itself but that's not that out there). The Picts do not control any other land outside of Scotland.
I do not know how to react.
>>181967475
Attila is the ugly borders total war so get used to it.
>>181967475
you play as?
>>181968291
Visigoths. The only reason I noticed is because after I took Rome I wanted to check on how Constantinopole is doing.
First heroic victory I think I've ever got, those spears were quite annoying to deal with, does DeI change the auto resolve bar like steel faith overhaul does
>>181967475
well, if you see the historical period, you will see many examples of barbarians taking unimaginable places like north africa and the balkans
>>181969403
HOL' UP
>>181969004
>does DeI change the auto resolve bar like steel faith overhaul does
nah, its just easy as fuck
DeI can look rally nice.
>>181970158
And it can fuck my system up;_;
>>181970158
>look closer at the horse textures
They literally used the horse textures for beastmen in TWW...
>>181973568
and you're surprised because...?
>>181973727
I'm not? Just didn';t notice it.
>>181973909
>>181973727
>>181973568
oh......wow.......
>play WH TW On legen
>enemy troops become moer powerful
>No way of adjusting battle difficulty
>Play vampire cunts
>Get fed up my units always lose the 1v1s
>Change difficulty to hard
>Game is a cakewalk
>can't capture certain settlements
>need to wait for vampiric corruption kicks in because attrition
>It takes hundred turns
>Lose all motivation to paly
>>181973909
it's common for developers to recycle as much assets as they can get away with, especially for shit games like shithammer
>>181973987
You can use raid stance.
Also usegit gud
>>181973987
>>can't capture certain settlements
>>need to wait for vampiric corruption kicks in because attrition
But you don't. Attrition doens't affect garrisoned toops. Raiding stance also ignores it. But then again this probably bait.
>>181974154
Attila recycled even more though. Does that mean the game is bad?
>>181974154
I remember coming to this general months back when i picked up warhammer on the humble bundle and commenting about it being a nice place but ever since the TWW2 update (and even slightly before that) you history fans have just been non stop shitposting.
I'm not saying all of you are responsible but you're not doing your fandom any favours.
>>181974414
Announcement I meant doh.
The day will soon be the day right?
>>181974175
I laughed
>>181974324
Attila wasn't sold at full AAA price and still managed to innovate more than warhammer ever did.
>>181974703
>>181974414
It's just that one guy mostly. He just does it for attention, and overal never posts anything of value. In short - the type of anti-social person who ruins generals on /vg/. Luckily there's just one of him.
>>181974974
I sure hope so, it'd ne a real shame to see this general go the same way as so many others.
>>181974851
Wish Attila's battles were more interesting, but most of that comes from the setting(which is subjective). I still think they didn't utilize the setting well enough though. I mean they should have replaced some of the barbar clone starting factions with the moors or something at release. You spend too much time fighting samey armies(not to mention spearmen spam). Just my take on it anyway. Ancient Empires is going to be nice.
>tfw got Warhammer for 35 dollars on release
Shame that's mainly a garrison fleet that died and my army is too far away to make use of this victory.
Is it a DeI thing thatif you fight a blockading fleet you all get transport boats, he din't even embark he just fought whilst a man on the campaign map?
>>181975131
Everything has it's ups and downs. We've had way worse, and this particular episode is relatively recent so unlikely to last forever. The whole harmony thing isn't a joke, we're all pretty harmonious as a rule. Kind of have to, there's quite a few TW games so lot of people with different favourites playing nicely together.
>>181975376