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Blood magic edition

Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Our pastebin (Don't bother reading this right now, it needs an overhaul)
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed) (embed) (memebed) (memebed) (memebed)

>Dom4 Inspector
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Noob questions answered that you didn't think to ask
http://web.archive.org/web/20150430021604/http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/core-mp-concepts-that-i-wish-somebody-had-told-me-about/

>Pretender designer
http://bsielski.github.io/pretenders/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo3qbjlixfghvs4/Debug.zip?dl=0

>Debugger guide and download
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=36453&highlight=debug

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuclearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first; ask for pretender advice in the thread

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing

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DO YOUR TURNS
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ok
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>>181835945
Patala pls, doubble turn
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>>181836250
Patala's plowing his friend's boipucci right now, don't bully him.
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>>181835594
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>>181836937
Your S1 mages are among the cheapest, so you should build many forts with labs and temples early for dem communions. Naga sacreds are mediocre at best, but hypmotize special attack, although one-shot, can be used for some funny anti-thug shenanigans. Nagas are amphibious and have water magic, which means that you'll have an easy time conquering UW shits with water elemental spam. E/S on your cap only dudes can be used for gifts from heaven communions. Earth buffs are always great as well. Nature will allow you to drown the battlefield in insects with creeping doom or swarm, allowing you to never trigger hp rout with your shitty baseling monkey shitflingers.

Patala's true strength comes from their summons though, and most of them require non-native paths, especially blood. Just open "summoned" tab in dom inspector and prepare to be amazed. Summonable sacreds of varying strength with both blood and pearls (that synergize with earth, astral, nature, and water buffs well), mapmove 10 teleporting siddhas (literally claim thrones in one turn from your cap), flying gorillas that autocast Darkness and can into air buffs, MOTHERFUCKING DAKINIS that will win your a motherfucking game. The problem is, they all need pretender made specifically for blood and maybe a bless to take full advantage of. So think about it while I think of pretender designs.
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>>181837848
Didn't say anything about seducers. So yeah, you also have cap-only assassins. Regrettably, they lose 1 point of water in their human form. Still, give them 2 water bottles and you're golden.
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>>181837848
>>181838163
thanks for all this
already in a game so too late for pretender but water bottle assassins
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Something like this for a no bless build, I think. Expand with elephants (you CAN script elephants against indies, right?), build a lot of forts and labs, wait for that shit to awaken, summon your first dakini, and that should get you going. Bully everyone with your RoS-capable Bloodletting casting pretender. You can go for awake if you drop dominion and luck/magic/prod.
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>>181838996
For a bless you can go either with blood fountain for B9, or A2N9B4 something for dakinis and golems, thought the latter will slow you down considerably. Buy bloodslaves from your friendly blood neighbors.
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>>181838996
udabess
saved more future games
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Is there any better mid-tier mage in the game than the Mastersmith?
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>>181841906
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>>181841906
Do you have an artist profile somewhere online? Asking for a friend.
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>>181842827
>A1E1
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>>181843468
The art's by Amuys
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>>181843648
>acquire earth boots and cast RoS
>cast Parting of the Soul
>use to summon Corpse Constructs
>cast Ghost Grip
>cast lightning bolt
Still objectively superior to LA Harab Seraphs.
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>>181843773
Guess serving on a submarine is really fucking boring.
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>>181843960
I was saying that you were missing that first one, which is actually important
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>>181842827
>prot 1
>'resistance to rain of stones'
lmao
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>malakal didn't do a double turn and is the last one to send AGAIN
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>>181847231
fucking saved
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>>181847231

And Arco u mean?
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>>181847807
>always deflecting attention and blaming someone else
t. Malakal
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>>181847231
fixed
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FinalCountdown Patala is cute! CUTE!
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ded
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got a few more magic gems hiding around my pockets and troll lairs here
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>>181853380
brap?
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>>181853885
I sadly don't have labels for what minerals things are
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>>181847231
>>181849202
>not "how many threads have you let die in your life"
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>>181854586
>not "how many times you came to the Steam chat in your life?"
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>>181854709
that would be 0 for most...
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>>181854709
>"Do you remember how many gems you've used in your life?"
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>>181855464
Malakalia is CUTE!
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>tfw no qt Malakal gf
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>>181855597
Only because she doesn't have a bunch of piercings and tattoos
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Yomi, I'm killing the snek on your border. Don't interfere.
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Gath, where are those Levites going?
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>>181857532
Get in Steam chat
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>>181858146
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>>181853885
>>181853380
that looks like agate or some other kind of quartz
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>>181843773
>by me
No
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>>181862486
Is that your gf drawing? How's the life on a sub?
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>>181862462
Is this a game played by fucking vampires or something?
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>>181862524
Life in the navy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipEq_FuQb28
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>>181862910
Your guess is as good as mine. Looks like he is still waiting for Patala to make his turn at the moment:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Mistletoe
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>>181863213
>Turn number 326
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>>181863213
>Turn number 326
what in tarnation
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>>181863356
>>181863372
In all fairness, Patala has 161 provinces, maybe it really takes him several years to complete his turn.
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>>181857368
Abysia's snek?
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>>181863817
Agartha's.
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>>181863213
At last, I found them! The other immortal liches!
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The birth of the legend

>2008
>Oi people, this is to be my first hosted game on LlamaServer. Huzzah!
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>>181864132
>Executor
>Hoplosternum
Huh, guess those fags are old.
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>>181864132
>TEN YEARS
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>>181864339
>>181864664
>Plays game for over a decade
>still shit at it
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>>181865404
true sign they enjoyed their time playing it though
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>>181864132
Haha I started high school in that year
I'm in my 5th year of uni now
haha
hahaha
oh my god what the actual fuck
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Do Mictlan's pretender/prophet still spread dominion?
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>>181866518
No.
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>>181866518
Pretender spreads some.
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What do you do with all this useless chaff you get as LA Ry'leh?
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>>181867706
Throw them at things
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>>181867780
I'm having issues because half of them seem magical, and the cheap chaff commanders I get aren't good enough to be able to dispose of that much magical chaff. Am I supposed to be building commanders to suicide them with?
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>>181867994
If you want, but they're more useful since they have no fear. If you're playing with summod, they're sorta useful since they produce resources.
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post you're favorite LA Caelums
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Post fish.
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This was made by a player and endorsed by a community.

Guess the community.
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>>181875452
Why would you give a heliophagus a crossbow? Also never noticed you could see his dick before.
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>>181875452
>Guess the community.
Clockwork Hounds
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>>181875830
YOU SEE IVAN
WHEN YOU OF GEARING A THUG
YOU OF PUTTING BOTH A MELEE AND RANGED WEAPON ON HIM
SO IT CAN OF SHOOTING AND OF STABBING AT THE SAME TIME
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>>181875976
But it can already shoot magic.
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>>181875452
How it's possible? He's not ambidextrous, why crossbow attack didn't replace bane blade attack?
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>>181876473
Moreover the crossbow requires 2 hands.
You filthy CHEATER!
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>>181876473
>>181876760
Ranged weapons never replace melee weapons as far as I know. Most units can still fire bows even if they lose both their arms. Probably some bullshit workaround to let things have a shield, a sword and a crossbow at the same time.
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What would you do to a cute zotz boy?
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>>181875452
UImm, what bless does the guy have anyway? +1 morale?
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Just tested it.

>>181876819 this seems to be the case.
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Same with wraith lords.

If you give a scout ethereal crossbow, it will replace his bow and leave the dagger. If you give him a brand, it will replace both weapons. Illfraud logic. Go figure.
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>>181877342
I guess making shit like foresters and wardens would be too hard otherwise.
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bump the thread fags
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>>181881614
but i'm almost out of gems
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>>181881614

Ffffffuck Sandor was so based, I remember a multiplayer game where I had over 10000 skellies and i was just wandering around BTFOing huge stacks for mad necromancy
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How to Marverni?
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>>181885625
B9 and full scales.
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>>181885625
There's three things that Marveni does well:
1. Freespawn sacred boards
2. Massed Stellar Cascades/Astral Geysir/Soul Slay with 45g Stargazers, either in communion or with Light of the Northern Star
3. Gifts from Heaven communions with Druids

Scales are an obvious pick to do 2 and 3 as best as you can and like the other anon said, you can get max scales with B9. However, it wouldn't be unthinkable to omit the bless in favour of an awake or take a double (I don't think that's generally speaking a good idea but it's not completely stupid and supposing you somehow know you're going to face big battlefield clear that ruins your massed mage tactics, it might be a good idea too)
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>>181885625
war chested barriers
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>>181883772
tfw necromancy so overpowered in mp that the Horn of the Abyss mod reduces all necromancy percentages by half
and it's still fairly good
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LA Agartha strats in a 1v1?
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>>181887968
vs which nation? Overall, a lot of crossbows, blindfingters with N9 or E9 maybe as cover, and mage support.
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>>181887968
prod 3 awake

Your bless comes online for your summons moreso than your blindfighters, so scales to get more crossbows and to get elementals sooner will help you more
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>>181883772
>tfw Sandro was a sorcery hero (useless) and not even necromancy focused
Vidomina where it's at.
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>>181890168
>not Thant
kys
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>>181890168
SAY IT TO MY SKULL AND NOT ONLINE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS MEATBAG
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>>181890365
When do you realistically get 99 Spellpower without cheating?
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>>181890609
It's not even 99, it's around 60 with silt sphere or whatever it's called. I forgot the name of the map, but it's HotA gigantic map.
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>>181890754
Never got HotA working. You sure those crazy russians didn't fiddle with the direct-damage formula?
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>>181890365
>a single orb of inhibition makes 2 (TWO) main stats, around 11 (ELEVEN) secondary skills, and all (ALL) spells useless
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>>181891028
Nope, I don't think they changed damage formula. HotA is actually pretty well balanced. They nerfed necros and conflux, and now they're really good but not ban-worthy.
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>>181891056
And then you try to slap Tazar's units' ass
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>>181891215
>using meme mods
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>>181891667
A challenger appears.
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>>181891851
an older meme but it checks out
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We turn based strategy games with 2D graphic general TBSGW2DGD now?
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>>181892767
We /goodnerdgamesandshitpostinggeneral/, and we always were really.
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>>181891721
>wanting necro to be actual ban from all tournaments instead of having another playable faction that doesn't need to be 100% played if unbanned
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>>181891851
>>181892074
these are great haha
>a blinding flash
>another turn of the page
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>>181893451
Playing HoMM with no mods is like playing Dominions with no summod.
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>>181895514
so [/spoiler]gud?
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What is the purpose of Vaetti Hag? 1[SDNB] is very bad and they are inept researchers.

1/4 are cheap communion slaves and 1/4 are cheap blood hunters but the others are pretty much useless and they are wasted gold when not used because of inept researchers.
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>>181897569
you don't need a fort for them and they're cheap
the b1s can also communion
and they're sneaky
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>>181897569
They only cost 40 gold and you can mass them out of any forest.
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>>181897569
Really you mean 1/2 of them are communion slaves
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>>181897569
Forest recruit cheap utility mages
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So in ME EA Ermor gets a mind control spell at level 0 for it's H3's

Blessrush is over boys, let's pack it up.
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>>181897817
How many jags did you give him?
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Anyone play age of wonders 1?
Does multiplayer even work?
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>>181897817
Doesn't vanilla Sceleria get that?
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>>181898068
With the right script or summons, their healing spells are also p strong

>>181898396
Sceleria has an MR-easy sacred only enslave spell at range 50. ME Ermor has an MR-normal anyone charm spell at range 15. They're different, but Ermor's is significantly more likely to succeed.
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>>181898274
I'd be down for some Shadow Magic or 3 some time.
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>>181898274
Does aow1 work on win10?

Fucking AoW1 and HoM&M3 did more to define fantasy and get me into RPGs than Tolkein ever did.
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>>181898493
Thing is, Sceleria can communion to more effectively use that spell. A 15 range spell isn't very good if it's not easily spammable.
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>>181899258
Yeah, it's a lot harder to use as the game goes on. It's much more likely to work per cast (the jumps from MRNH-MRN-MRNE are HUGE), though, which makes it really good at shutting down a sacred rush or elephants or similar tactics that rely on fewer elite units and don't typically bring in a bunch of ranged support to make the close range riskier.
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>>181897817
Nice. What's going on over there? I don't get much on the radar from my secret water death space station.
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You can also use matrices on the foreign rec mage-priests to cast it, but that's more expensive and probably not worth doing over the new meteors and fire elementals and stuff
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>>181899679
Why would a death space station be submerged in water? Or is it the water which brings death?
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>>181900021
yeah all of the above there's just death water space everywhere in here

and I think Cruamthain might have peed
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>>181900021
Ask R'lyeh.
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>>181898650
Not versus anything with range less than a javelin.
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does dom spread care about whether a pass or crossing is open
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>>181898574
>>181898815
I've only got AoE1, sorry mate
And I know it works with some fiddling on win7, no fiddling necessary on my copy of win7, I can't speak for 8 or 10.
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>>181898068
2, of 7 or so, I forget, routed my small jag party and his own milita+PD in the ensuing fight.

Learned my lesson, The chaffstorm is incoming.

>>181899679
Seems I have monkeys to the north and Ermor to the east. Once I've established my borders I'll mass my Jags and rush one, haven't decided on which yet.
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>>181903120
then he unzips his fire elementals
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>>181903275
Suprisingly for a nation with tanked scales my nascent blood economy and research is going pretty well.

I'd wager on my sacred summons vs fire elementals any day
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>>181903652
If you have enough kitties, yeah, you can gank a legion and the elementals that come with them. If you mean the N summons, they're all pretty unimpressive compared to even your recruitables
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Niefel I hope you liked the message I crafted for you.
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>tfw you win the battle you were supposed to lose and now you have to keep fucking playing
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>>181903120
Dang man, thanks for announcing your intentions.
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>>181905189
Ermor is pissing me off at the moment so you're no2 in the rankings, pray I don't change my intentions
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>>181905347
What's in it for me?
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Patala, Bats, can you go into steam chat?
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>>181905607
Not facing quadblessed Ozzies and Jags until you have your first research goals set?
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>>181906000
Malakal Worpal Mictlan confirmed, rush him if you want to win.
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>join game with newest summod version
>install newest summod version after deleting old one
>start game, go to file
>click nation
>crash
Very interesting. Anyone had a similar experience or know of a fix?
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>tfw you have RoS as Yomi
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God damn it Caelum, I needed that connection to cross the river with that army.
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Cant check if ded when on phone
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/domg/ is never dead, sometimes the thread devices a clever ruse and pretends to be dead.
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>waiting for 2h file
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I love Dryads!
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>>181857532
Who dis? My southern neighbour?
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>>181857532
who dis>>181916845
in any case bottom left
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>>181897569
>they are wasted gold when not used because of inept researchers
Take magic scales, scrub.
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>>181918974
FYI I actually am a scrub,
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>>181916768
Well, duh. They have hair in all right places. Those big tits. Their running sprites are also very charming and show that they are not lazy. Those horns too. The developers need more than some flavor text to convince me that their evil Asphodel recolors lost all their charm.
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take your turns
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>>181913851
>>181921108
Go to bed neet.
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>>181921325
i was hoping to do the turns before bed duh
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>>181921598
huge neet
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>>181921028
I am honored to read the post from a real life wizard.
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>>181921920
good talk
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>>181922126
No, really, I am happy that Pangaea didn't have to suffer "AND THEN *The Nation* WAS HUMANS" or die.
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My scrying mages noticed a severe lack of skeletons in this thread and that's concerning.
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>>181919678
It's /domg/, we're all scrubs here.

More serious advice for using hags:

Take magic scales, build a bunch of labs in forests for cheap research centers and spam hags. You'll have a major advantage in research over everyone from not having to build a bunch of forts first, and 40g for 8RP is still pretty good for long-term researching.

You've already mentioned good uses for S1 and B1, so I'll focus on ways to make N1 and D1 not completely useless.

N1 and D1 are pretty sad compared to S1 or B1, but they still have some potentially useful stuff.

D1 has frighten, which is most of the time going to be the best option for D1 mages. Combined with damage from your troops, spamming it will cause enemy squads to break and flee. If your enemy is deploying elite undead, D1 also is a great anti-undead tool with dust to dust.

N1 has tangle vines which will tie up a square of units for at least one turn, preventing attacks and reducing their defense to zero. It is most beneficial against high-defense targets, but it is also useful against targets with human or worse strength (they will generally be entangled and helpless for quite a while). They also have protection, which is a good early spell for making your vaetti troops significantly harder to kill (assuming your enemy isn't using fire magic).

If you're willing to spend gems, N1 and D1 get a bit more interesting. With gems, both can summon a decent number of chaff to bog down important enemy troops, N1 via swarm and D1 via horde of skeletons. Hags are also stealthy, meaning they can raid lightly defended provinces with these spells with a much lower pricetag than Skrattir thugs.

Ideally you'd leave the N1 and D1 guys at home researching and be able to beat everyone without them. Still, they're not completely useless and at 40 gold each they don't need to be very powerful to pull their weight.
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>>181897569
>S1 comslaves and cascaders
>D1 is the worst, but can cast skelespam with gems, or cast animate skeleton for free which ain't the worst since you don't really care if they die
>N1 stealthy Swarm casters, can take 1 PD
>40g B1 the utility is obvious
3 of them are actually pretty okay targets for a black heart, especially the B1s
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>>181919678
>>181925084
S1s can spam Stellar Cascades after Light of the Northern Star. They make great support mages for thugs with Body Ethereal (Skrattir, in particular, benefit from having a stealthy idiot to wear their gear while they're in the wolf form) and give you 40% chance to stop a Mind Hunt attempt and feeblemind the caster.
D1s can also cast Ghost Grip, which is basically Stellar Cascades (except worse).
B1s can Leech.

B1s, N1s, D1s (and S1s with water bottles) are also excellent, extremely cheap assassins when given black hearts.
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>>181922126
2 more years and I'll be a wizard too.

I still have yet to win a single Dominions game.
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>>181925718
>losing at life
>losing at dominions
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>>181925641
Ghost Grip is really bad.

It hits 5 targets, compared to 5 squares for cascades.

It's precision-based so it misses a lot more. Normally this isn't a big deal, but much of cascades' power comes from stacking casts on the same targets to put enemies to sleep. Ghost Grip is much worse at doing that.

It's reduced much more by armor. For anything 15+ protection cascades does twice as much fatigue.

I've never seen it work effectively.
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Gomen for taking so long, I was slep
Did a double tho
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>>181926941
salva
!!
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>>181927030
what
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>>181927083
buly
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>>181927115
Who, me?
...are you Salva?
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>>181926083
>implying paying a slut is "winning"
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>>181921028
>tfw gats will never sprite for dominions
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>>181924803
Every army of longdeads is waiting for its rain of stones.
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Here's the plan anons, I'm going to buy a lotto ticket tomorrow and if I win I will contact the developers and try to fund Trade and Taint and some real efforts towards improving the playerbase.

Wish me luck
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>>181930416
What are your scales IRL?
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>>181930416
congrats on having enough money to literally throw it away
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>>181929113
and that is why you'll always be a virgin
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>>181930519
T3S3C2G3L1D3
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>>181931151
Pretty bad desu
I hope you have a good bless.
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>>181907675
Need more details.
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>>181932141
Think I have an awake with something shit like E4S9
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>>181932768
Serious talk though, how would a E4N9S9 bless work for elves? Mistform+Glam+Twist Fate+Regen would make for a stupid powerful thug right?

Also, how would mass thugs work against a doom stack?
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>>181932861
It wouldn't work because you would have 2 vanjarls because of your shit scales.
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Loving this comedy, Gath.
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>>181934263
This can't be a real multiplayer game, can it?
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>>181934356
Its an rp game. I do feel seriously bad for Gath doing that though, he should have known you never take on a throne with an air god on it. The depressing thing is it isn't even a level 3 throne.

Also is this Patala's comeback?
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>>181934356
No I think that's the one where Gath is totally fucked in a corner bordering a throne.
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>>181934621
Yep. His only consolation is that all his neighbours are engaged in a crazy five way war.
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>>181934263
Sad!
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>>181934796
Jesus that's horrifying
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>>181934609
For those without the scouts, Lizard News Network Delivers.

Hardly a crushing loss for the Jotuns (the Skratti is his Prophet BTW, not that he's got a bless of any note) but certainly a morale boosters for lewd sneks
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>>181935151
forgot pic
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>>181857532
Friend,
read >>181918108
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>>181936126
Gotcha. I'll switch my dudes to another tile.
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>>181936126
So I just elf a Kronos Hinnom, and there weren't any sites in the guys land. I think Kronos is a noob across all games. Protip, choose different names so you can't be profiled across games.
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>>181932291
Nevermind. I fixed it, thanks.
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>>181938016
You know there is almost always at least 10 times as many people viewing as there are contributing via posts.

Please never say anything "nvm fixed it" without posting the fix.
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>>181938640
It was just me being dumb.
I didn't realize the host had changed the map.
If you experience such a crash you need the right map.
The game doesn't handle this properly with an error because ???.
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>>181934263
Welp, guess I'll have to take his capital after all.
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>>181939257
Thank you. BTW on /g/ "nvm, fixed it" is a meme.
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>>181940018
I see.
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Never go blessless Utgard.
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>>181941653
I can taste the regret from here
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>>181941653

Why not?
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>>181942704
How are you supposed to defeat anything? At best you werewolf skratti can be medium thugs with no bless then that is all you have.
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I unstarted the game and kicked out the stalers, but we still need one more nation:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SnekEater
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Furthermore the horde needs to do its turn!
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>>181944558
Just start with seven my man?
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>>181932291
>>181938016
I still need the details
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>>181945814
Is this also a /g/ meme or are you sum1won trying to fix you're mod?
Because it's not sum1's fault, it's illwinter's.
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>>181947186
>>181945814
I believe this is Sum1won or someone contributing to his github.

The reason "nvm fixed it" is a /g/ meme is because when someone encounters a problem and fixes it by saying "nvm fixed it" it doesn't help anyone. If it is a bug and the user found a workaround and it doesn't help the developers. If it is not a bug but the use found a fix it does it help people googling to fix the problem.
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>>181947696
Yeah I got that, that's why I explained what I did to solve it.

As I said, it's illwinter's fault for just crashing when you don't have the map
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>>181943089
You have cheap S1D1N1 mages. You use communions with skratti slaves and can cast nether darts outside of your com.
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As you can see, this is one dead thread
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>>181947186
>>181947696
No I was just memeing. There was supposed to be a follow-up post saying "nvm found it" but it didn't go through.
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>>181959930
You're a fuck up on 4chan, just like you are in real life.
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So about profiling
Im afraid im not gonna make it bros
I will need an extension on these
sorry but the 24h may be needed
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>>181961595
are you just trying to see how many people you can freeze literally every game for? because you've got me completely covered. I hope your thing goes well and takes less time than you fear.
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>>181961595
Okay.
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When building a Jotun giant SC
Is it better to have a cheap 5 gem shitty shield, than no shield at all?
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>>181962975
It needs a vine shield
if you cannot get a vine shield, what the fuck, stop playing now you'll save yourself a lot of grief
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>>181961595
Nice, I'm in Worpal, FinalCountdown, FullScalesErmor, and PoggiesGoMog.
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>>181961595
>tfw I'm not in any of those games
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>>181963079
Why vine shield?
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>>181963346
it's the best shield
anyone attacking must pass an MR check or get entangled
Entangled troops have 0 ATK DEF and cannot attack until they pass a STR check to break loose
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>>181937764
???
What u smoking.
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>>181937764
You are in for a nasty surprise.
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>>181961595
granted for two of them fag
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>>181963854
Like when I took 85% of Hinnom and got no sites?
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>>181961595
Granted on another two, you slow fuck.
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ARCO DO YOUR FUCKING TURN.
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Okay, so there are only 3 players left now. 2 of them staled last turn. And it's turn 26. I'm ending it.
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>>181968048
classic /domg/
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Hey R'lyeh - I'm not sure if you've had beef with the last Ulm or if you're roleplaying being insane or what, but I'll be taking that province back, okay?
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>>181968502
PURGE THE SQUIDS
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>>181968686
>taking vampires underwater

no
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>>181968730
>he didn't buy the Season Pass
You can only blame yourself. I bet you're salty about not having UW Abysia too.
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>>181967954
>after waiting for 999 hours to send his turn Malakal starts bullying someone else
pathetic
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>>181969702
this desu
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>>181968502
I'm in an alliance with Pangaea to give him troop support in whatever limited capacity I can.
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>>181969951
If you can give me a better offer, then I'm willing to listen.
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Jesus fuckign christ can we end pythiun already?
Its getti g proematic
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>>181970531
Can you give up 136 to smooth out our borders?

t. arco
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Will a remote summon spell stop an army from moving in the move phase (ie arose hunger) due to a defensive battle?
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>>181969702

He is always last tho.
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>>181970531
Yeah, I'll buy you off. Let me retake that one province you took, I'll send you a message in game about forthcoming tribute
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>>181972105
Anyone that routs (or dies, of course) won't make their move, but assuming the army wins it'll continue on as normal
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Top ten anine deaths
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>>181944558
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SnekEater

Oh hey, let me jump in with a hastily slapped together TNN pretender. What could go wrong?
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>>181973431
Who won?
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>>181975710
Before any major players went AI (Therodos and Caelum were beaten and Kailasa in dire straits when they did), Ulm, Machaka, Sauromatia and Pelagia were the largest without any of them having overwhelming lead. Then Ulm went AI too and people lost interest.
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>>181976169
>not even a thronerush
No one but Kailasa deserved to win.
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>>181976169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWI_ECKrBc
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gem infusion
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Someone cast curse of stones and I passed out for a few days. Here's the big globals off the last two turns.

Last turn, Utgard described the conditions in a conquered Patalan place, seen here. This was sent on the same turn that the nagas defeated the giants.
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Does Soul Vortex from Bone Armor work for golems?
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>>181981484
I cast an overcosted dispel on the Burden of Time global afflicting the thread
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>>181982805
And Patala's description of the battle, this turn.
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>>181982862
yes
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>>181982805
>>181983164
I wonder what's next for those goofy giants
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>>181971161
Why?
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>>181984923
I'd just like to smooth it out, shorten the path between those forts, you know. It's not a valuable province, is it?
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>>181985310
It actually is due to your Dominion though. In exchange for that province, I'd take the one with the temple that's on the coast. I'd reimburse the cost to you plus some gems if you're interested.
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>>181985467
But you only benefit from Growth's pop-growth.
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>>181985697
It's probably more just that it's not full on cancer-dying
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>>181985697
Pretty much >>181985887
My cancer is pretty bad desu
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show me some thugs
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>>181989280
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I don't understand...
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>>181887968
Prod 3
UNLIMITED CROSSBOW WORKS
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>>181989390
what was the script?
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>>181989806
Earthpower. I only attacked for scouting purposes.

In general, Malakal is gonna use the tried and true mass flight + EQ spam. Would be such a shame if something happened to all his mages on the defensive turn.
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>>181989381
The man, the myth, the legend.
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>>181990758
The elves look so happy.
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Casting twiceborn.
On that note, a version of twiceborn that turned the caster into a lich would be neat. Probably would have to be pretty expensive for the sake of balance, though.
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>>181993238
It's a fucking nightmare to code, but it's possible to do.
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>Misclick Lifelong Protection to a research mage towards the end of your turn
It's not like I wanted to give it to an assassin or anything
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>>181993363
game restart +
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>>181993297
>It's a fucking nightmare to code
It's a very simple spell to code though.
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>>181993405
>towards the end of your turn
Even having my previous orders thought out and fresh in my memory, it'd be at least 15min
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>>181993514
Yeah, sure, go ahead. I already made the spell, but it'd be fun to see you suffer through illfraud's event trigger system.
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>>181993515
I meant "restart +" on the the entire game to Turn 0 because that's easier
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>>181993743
Sorry, I misunderstood
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>>181993852
is okay i forgib
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>>181993648
Sorry, I was mistaken on how twiceborn works. I thought that it's just a transformation, in which case it would look like this. You're right, it's going to be much harder.

#newspell
#name "Twiceborn Lich"
#descr "The caster transforms himself into a lich."
#school 4
#researchlevel 7
#path 0 5
#pathlevel 0 5
#effect 10127
#nreff 1
#damage 178
#fatiguecost 1000
#spec (that uwok one)
#end
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>>181993648
>>181994064
Why in the name of god did they need to make events and spells so fucking awkward to mod? And why have they never put out all the effect numbers anywhere?
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>>181994512
>why are they still using the dominions 2 engine
because coding an engine is even more of a huge pain in the ass than using an irritating engine
still yeah they totally need to do these things
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>>181994064
It means that a literal scrub with a staff and a skeleton helmet can be a lich. Even better, craft a +2D artifact, a skellington helmet, and your every D2 mage can be a lich. Bonus points for good crosspaths.
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>>181993648
No longer requires the event trigger system desu senpai.
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>>181996151
Then it means you can't restrict the spell to not be used by undead. Mound Fiends and Specters into liches.
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>>181996365
Probably. Have you tried #spec modifiers?
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>>181996725
There's none that restricts undead, as far as I remember.
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>>181996778
It will be alright, anon...
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>>181996431
I'm actually pretty close to this, I think. Isn't it sad?
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>>181997806
I won around 11 games, anon.
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>>181997869
Cute!
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Around 3, not counting blitzes.
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>>181996330
Around -10
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>>181998527
It's ok nicknight
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Are mods triggered by people having sex?
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>>182001038
like worthy heroes?
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>>182001362
pfffffffft
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>>182001038
Probably more likely to be triggered by people not having sex.
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>>182001038
>tv news: are your unsupervised children exposing themselves to getting mods?
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>>181995003
What's the problem with that?

Transformation doesn't change magic paths. A D2 mage who transforms into a lich will still be a crappy D2 mage.
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>>182001768
Yeah, and a shitty F4W4A4E4S6D2N4 archmage will become immortal.
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>>182001951
well that does seem like the purpose of learning lots of magic in your quest to become a lich wizard

so it seems perfectly flavorbalanced to me
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>>182002165
>flavorbalanced
I like this hot new meme.

Guess ME is "flavorbalanced" as well.
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>>182002275
yeah definitely
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>>182002275
so is fire mages burning out young though
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>>182001951
And what's the problem with this?

Being able to eventually make human pretenders less squishy (with tons of research and a bunch of boosters) sounds like a great addition to me.
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>>182002165
>>182002275
nice shit talking, kid
its obvious that making any powerful unit immortal will be more useful than using it on a shitty D2 mage, just like casting flaming arrows will be more useful on 200 archers than 10 crossbowmen
If in theory Lichcraft would be introduced it would propably become a staple spell cast on every major mortal mage , which would be perfectly balanced just like casting phoenix pyre on reinvigorating unit is
or RoS spam for that matter
it completely changes the game and annihilates stacks but instead of crying NERF most people accept it as a part of dominions

the fact that E magic is far too good is another matter , that can be resolved in a different way, like nerfing some national E mages or making powerful spells more costly
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>>182003059
Poor Abysia.
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>>182003317
autist please go
let me read the social signals for you: he and I both know it's overpowered
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>>182003317
no see the problem with it is that you have to account for turning fomorian king casters into fomorian king liches and such to more correctly flavorbalance it
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>>182004475
Hey, man, it's not like something is preventing transforming Dusk Elders into liches, with one of their only weaknesses being magic duels and all that. Now you basically have immortal D3-4 skelespammers/bane fire spammers/magic duelers. I'm sure Ermor will appreciate what you're doing for him.
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>>182005279
yeah but they need to be ethereal dusk elder liches
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>>182002275
Well T'ien can summon national liches in ME
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>>182005279
Hey, man, it's not like something is preventing that F9E9S9D9 demilich of yours from growing him a new body and casually bitchslapping people as well. Not like you can prevent him from casting it.
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>>182005482
Let them just cast body ethereal. They get 15 more prot for free in lich form as well.
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If you mad fucks really want to do that, I can host a game with that lich transformation mod.
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>>182003470
They get to be assassins when they're teenagers though
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>>182006202
Being a teenage abysian is like being a middle aged man though.
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>>182006480
on the one hand, that's true. On the other hand, they call themselves fucking SLAYERS so they're obviously edgelord teens
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>>182006547
The guitarist of slayer is 53.
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The lichification spell can be reasonably balanced by putting it at that 8 or 9, pricing it well (30?), and possibly adding a downside like insanity or an otherwise shitty body.
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>>182007037
no you need fomorian king body liches for fomorian king liches reee
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>>182007093
What about if Fomorian King Lich needs dust from the bodies of dead Fomorian Kings to reform? That resource is in short supply
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>>182007037
For 30 death gems you can get a standard lich.
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>>182007404
Fomorian King can Wind of Death though.
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>>182007350
but the abysians seem to find infinite giant bodies after just one battle
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>>182007404
Yeah, but a standard lich is just a D4 shmuck. An A2D4 hangadrott is a comparative monster.
Anyways, its just a suggestion on how to balance it. Feel free to tune appropriately.
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>>182007784
triggered
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>>182003570
I knew that, my post was a response to someone saying that ME is similiarly flavorbalanced

I may have made a mistake though, since i just assumed that the new spell will just replace lichcraft and have the same cost and requirements
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>>182009005
well
it seems we are at a nopassy spot
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>>182011618
no net gain positional advantage after castling?
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RIP Man God. Turn-timered by Zeus's living earth/air
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so how does Dom4 mp work? I was having issues hosting a game for a friend
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>>182014234
Either direct connect or PBEM through llamaserver. PBEM guide is in the OP.
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Nice of that one lad to stall ALL MY FUCKING GAMES you cunt.
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>>182014285
How the fuck does Direct Connect work? m80 and I were having a hell of a time getting things working. Was taking forever to find.
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>>182017772
Most of the times you need to forward ports that you use. Also, there's https://snek.earth that you can connect to, but I dunno how reliable it is.
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The stars on the map are capitals. The thrones are thrones. The indie flags bordered by grey are indies. The nation-color bordered provinces encroached upon by different colors are forts under siege. The nation-color bordered provinces completely surrounded by different colors are just provinces with no connection to their host nation.

Current situation, circa turn 29:
Clowns are down to their capital, but credit to the sub, he's going down fighting. Thanks for never being the last to send in your turn and not going AI when the cards are against you. His primary beneficiaries are Bracada and Nurgle.

Cannum is making a surprise comeback after he was whittled down to 4-5 provinces by Nurgle and Clowns. He's still at risk to Bracada though.
Horde is, like Carthage, completely crippled, having lost his capital as a cap-centric nation. Maybe he'll get his sacreds out in time for a comeback though. His primary beneficiary is Ochrekan.
Juza is just reclaiming their provinces and rebuilding their army.
Meissa is at war with Ochrekan to little apparent success.
Ochrekan is at war with Horde and Meissa.
Bracada is vulturing everyone and growing larger than he already is.
Nurgle is tromping around with a massive army of unkillable N9B9 sacreds, dunno who he's going after next.

No globals have gone up as of yet.

No one has anything like a major lead in thrones as of yet.

Favorite to win: Bracada
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>>182019935
I don't care for your shit game, but I'll be glad if HoMM nation mod will be finished soon.
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Ah ha ha. The previous Pantokrator, seeing my evil spread like an incurable plague, reset the very foundations of the world to try to stop me. But fool that he was, he could not rid the world of my villainy! Now my empire shall rise once again to destroy all those that would oppose me and conquer the Thrones of Ascension!
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>>182020413
hope u die to fucking barbs this time nigga
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>>182020558
Fool that you are, you do not realize that barbarians will hardly even slow down my Legions of Doom!
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>>182019935
Clowns?
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>>182021035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR00-z8Cn6o
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>>182021182
Oh god what the fuck did I just watch and why can't I stop laughing
did they get me?
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>>182021475
It's a funny mod unlike clowns
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>>182021182
>clowns will never win

feels bad man
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we need another shitty nations game
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>>182019935
thanks for posting this. I love seeing what's going on in the other games
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>>182021642
post the master clown one
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>>182021873
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>>182021642
>tfw could finally summon one of these but have no astral
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>>182021919
thanks
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>>182021742
Make one then. I'd be up for it.
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>>182024201
>As you approach the monstrous blob of undead flesh, you notice a lucky charm dangling from one of its limb
>On another limb you can see a shiny metallic bracer. How that tiny bracer is supposed to help that thing is completely beyond you
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>>182021742
I would play and modnations game with you anon.
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Malakal holds 3 thrones and is besieging 2 more, just thought I'd mention it.
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>>182028786
post his army comps tia
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>>182029119
script too if he's doing anything different from the usual buffs/equakes
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>>182013793
if nigga had just taken a brand instead he'd have been fine
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>>181989390

I had extra pearls I couldn't use well and slaves from the throne. Now I have crystal items and blood stones. Whats hard to understand?
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>>182030483
couldn't you get crystal gear without making your god magic duel bait?
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>>182030753

But he is immortal and my dominion is very strong due to many temples I need anyway. Its the investment that wont backfire easily, especially since I have both lizard shamans and enchanters.
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>>182030753
Funny that you mention it
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If I cast a D4 spell that cost 100 fatigue with a D5 mage will it cost 50 fatigue for that mage.
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>>182019935

Cannum comeback is not a surprise, he has employed the Bracadan expeditionary forces to deal with the clown threat.
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>>182030887
But you could have done the same without any chance of problems. Why use your god for the S1 empower instead of a random earth mage?
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>>182031078
Yes.

There are other factors which influence spell cost, so it probably won't be exactly 50 fatigue.
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>>182031247

Because he is immortal?
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>>182031380
If you're using your god out in the field, that's even more reason to empower someone else to sit at home and forge full-time.
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>>182031301
Yes! Time to spam Wind of Death!
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>>182031573

He already forged what I needed him to forge. Now he can fight and if he 'dies' he can forge more.

I subbed in to two oracle mages and still don't have nearly enough to have them sitting in forts rather than with armies.
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>>182031697
You could empower a golem crafter.

You don't need higher than E3 for crystal items.
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>>182031815
I have no idea what I'm talking about but I'll argue anyway: the post
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>>182031907
Replace Golem Crafter with Earth Reader and the point is exactly the same.

I don't need to know which age of Agartha you are to tell empowering your god in astral for S/E crosspath is a terrible idea.
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I haven't played this in quite a while, any new updates/memes I should know about?
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>>182032271
there was the top ambiguous patch note of all time: "This update comes with bug fixes for drowning immortals and network servers as well as improvements to modding."
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>>182032271
The new meme strat is to stale for 16 turns in a row, and then come back to surprise your foes.
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>>182032759
Good old illfraud
>>182032789
Innovative!

Any big changes to summod I should know about?
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>>182032865
>Any big changes to summod I should know about?

Plenty, but you will never know about them since sum1 doesn't find it necessary to document them.
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>>182033375
>Durrr what is loading mod and looking at changes myself

This isn't GsG or some other casual general anon, I think you're in the wrong game if you don't enjoy grubbing around in lovecraftian code for tid-bits of information
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>>182033449
>play all nations
>recruit all commanders and troops
>cast all spells
>just to see what was changed in the newest version of a mod
Is that how you achieved 300 hours of SP, anon?
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>>182033596
I think he's suggesting you compare the two .dm files.

Still a bunch of work, because they're a pain to read, but less bad than trying everything ingame.
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>>182033797
>>182033596
nigga just read the fuckin changelogs
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>>182033375
>Plenty, but you will never know about them since sum1 doesn't find it necessary to document them.
It's CBM all over again.
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You don't need to know exactly what's going on, just trust sum1won when he says that it's making the game more balanced.
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>>182033970
>>182033912
The answer is opening 2 instances of dom inspector and checking modded stuff
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>>182034969
t. sum1won
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>>182034969
>>182035775
I'm not the only one who finds it strange Sum1 has a 70% winrate with Summod and frequently nerfs nations he wins with shortly after starting games as those nations right?


Right? DAE remember Princes? sum1 started two games as TC with that version
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>>182033912
Like a changelog for LA Pythium?
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>>182036291

1. recruitable A8 mages in every fort
2. recruitable tarrasques in the cap
3. recruitable poison golems for 1r in every fort
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>>182034969
>>182033970
>>182033797
>>182033375
>>182032865
Literally all of the changes for each version are listed on the page you download that version from.

Am I the only person who looks at the GitHub for new versions?
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>>182040414
1) List of version changes is not enough, there has to be a full list of changes from vanilla to current version.

2) Changelogs on github are incomplete.
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>>182041919
>Needs a vanilla to current version changelog
Also on the GitHub and packaged in the .zip. it's missing part of la pythium.

Is that your complaint? The least played nation in the game except for possibly Oceania is missing some documentation which is in the process of being added?
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>>182036139
The charitable interpretation is that he's seeing whether he got the balance right, and adjusting it afterwards as needed.
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Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Lemuria 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Midgard 2h file received
Patala 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Ragha 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received

It was Marignon that asked for an extension, not Arco.
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>>182042464
Don't include your own pet mods into the balance mod unless you are at the very least least willing to properly document the changes. I thought we've been there already with CBM, which went completely downhill, because all the feedback its author got was from his own circlejerk group. I am here to ensure it doesn't happen to you and your mod, sum1. Be grateful.
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>>182042817
>This problem you are actively addressing and mentioned in the version history exists
Thanks for your feedback
>>182042597
The charitable interpretation is that somebody is making shit up.

I'd be interested in knowing what the TC games I played with A8 mages we're.
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>>182043285
>Thanks for your feedback
Don't mention it, it only took a couple of months or so of pestering you about it at every opportunity, and lo and behold, we are finally getting somewhere.

Don't feel bad though, it wasn't an unpleasant duty. In fact, I have a bit of a crush on you :3
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>>182042817

No, you're here to bitch about already known issues without actually saying what they are until 5 posts in.
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>>182043576
>it only took a couple of months or so of pestering you about it at every opportunity
There hasn't been an update in the last couple of months, and a bunch of other stuff also got fixed, see >>182040414
If you have an issue, submit it. Pestering as opposed to saying "x is an issue" adds no marginal benefit.
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Is being a mage a requirement for mastering your own mortality? Are there any knights/fighters who did it?
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MA Ulm's onee-san
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>>182045209

Her legs and eyes are fucked up m8
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>>182044191
Eternal Knights
Vanheim Pigs
Vampires in general
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I try to like Dominions, but damn, it's not easy.
Just now, I crafted an awesome spear (more than double the attack of a normal spear and bonus to stats). I would kill to have that one in any other RPG.

In Dominions, I don't even know if it makes any difference in battle, and unless I mass produce these Enchanted Spear and equip my entire army with it. I don't even know if it was worth keeping a mage busy.
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Where is the dom4 lewd mods?
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>>182047898
>any other RPG
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>>182047898
There was an article about Dominions where it's a good explanation to why there's so many enchanted weapons lying around in RPGs. Mainly mass produced garbage weapons in a war of gods that were found by adventurers much, much later.
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>>182048868
I dunno, my favourite RPGs have enchanted weapons being really rare. Makes sense for hack'n'slash like Diablo and such.
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>>182047898
You can craft enchanted weapons, but if they're not AoE, it's meant mainly as an anti thug/strong summon item.
Hence why duskdaggers (armor negating) and eyecatchers (removing eyes tanks stats) are so popular.
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>>182045209
looks noticably better than her LA counterpart
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>>182049084
A bit of a shame, but it's balanced that way.

I know I'd still pay to have Flambeau in any other game. Just imagine, a sword that doubles as a torch. Any survival game would be piss easy with this. Even Don't Starve.
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Force host
No mercy for stalers
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>>182051351
He didn't get a reminder mail from llama. You can help him, anon.
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>>182050056
Well consider what having access to firearms or something like an armored vehicle means in a post-apocalyptic scenario. While rather inconsequential on the terms of nations' power, it's a lot more on the personal level. Dominions is about the former though, not the latter.
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>>182053125
But the occasion for a single one to shine in Dominions are few.
Unless strategy allows it or there's a duel, pimping your commanders is usually a waste of time and ressources.

On a personal level, these magical items are insanely powerful.
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>>182053242
Well yeah, the artilleryman's and missile technician's job is not glorious or personal, but is essential.
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>>182053470
Indeed.

One of these days, I'll start a 1vs1 game between me and I, and I'll try to play the whole game by having commanders dueling against each others.
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In Disciple games, can you draw your income to teammate's forts and labs or only to your own?
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>>182048868
Link to article?
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>>182048440
Low priority work in progress.
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do your turns
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>>182057618
Make me.
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>>182055882
>no seduction

I see why you did it, it's just amusing given the flavor.
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>>182058253
>>182055882
>>182048440
Speaking of lewd, I certainly remember there was like a total sprite conversion which gave every dominion indie into a big boob nude?
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Extremely Ded
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>>182050056
It also instagibs zombies and has a ranged aoe incendiary at-home blast.
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Arco why
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>>182045209
cuuuute
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Well, that was predictable.

At least I'll be out of it soon.
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>>182068253
What happened? Bats?
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>>182068289
Lizards. Second time I die to them as Utgard on this map in approximately this start position.

Still, I had to gamble on them being trustworthy. Trying to prepare for wars on all fronts would have been a useless waste of time.
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What's the formula for fliers getting to the back line? I know there's a moral check involved.
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>>182070998
There isn't a morale check. Just an RNG check. If there were a morale check, morale 30/50/99 flyers would always hit the furthest back squad. It starts at the back and has a % to tag each squad according to the devs. The formula's never been posted (or extensively tested afaik)
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>>182071162
How can I hit the backline more reliably, then? Just having more squads so they've got a better chance of hitting the target?
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>>182071384
yes
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Tien'chi, those 2 provinces beyond the bridge to your left are my capring. I can't let you have them so turn around :)
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>>182073543
No ;)
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>>182073543
Post screenshot to prove it :)
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>>182074046
I am sure some autist can figure where I am based on the image, but I don't want to make it too easy.
Besides, I'm not sure you're China.
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How to beat EA china when you dont have access to easily massed archers?
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>>182083698
mass slings or javelins
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>>182083698
obviously counter with A9B9F9 stone hurlers
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New game up -
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Resourceful

11 players, Maerlande, MA, Summod, WH, 2 starting provinces, Resources at 150. I might do better arena

Other settings all normal.

Game will start when all pretenders are in, so no placeholders.

2 stales = sub or AI. Ask for extensions in the thread.

My hope is that the + resources and extra starting provinces for yet more starting resources will give an advantage to the normally resource gated nations over bless builds. We'll see how it actually goes.
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>>182085820
what's the sail distance on that map?
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>>182085820
t. Ulm
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>>182085820
>Maerlande
meh
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>>182086653
2
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>>182085820
How many UW spawns on that one, again?
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>>182087649
18. Plenty for 2-3 UW nations
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>>182087806
>9 provinces is okay for a UW nation
???
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>>182088134
in isolated starts, you want 7 or so UW provinces. UW nations can use coasts. Giving them a massive free area that land nations can't meaningfully interact with until year 3+ is stupid.
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>>182088305
but the only reason to play uw at all is to have huge uncontested expansion and then irritate your land neighbors with coastal raiding for the entire game
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>>182083698
Tangle Vines or Earth Meld.
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>>182089803
or you can fight for size and play to win
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>>182091615
that's not nearly as comfy as getting a free 20 provinces and then 30 land borders to bother
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>>182087649
There's only (1) that matters.

No Start version?
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>>182092684
yeah, ok, I'll edit the map to have some nostarts and upload that
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Remember to take it easy!
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B51DS6LWagFTb3h4bFF3NFNzblk

Maerlande Connected - Islands are now connected to the mainland and NoStart. The two lakes and the shitty corner provinces with 2-3 connections are NoStart

You don't need to download that to play, but you can if you want to use it for exp testing etc
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>>182075420
>>182093161
Where does this sloth Sceleria meme come from?
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>>182093971
Sceleria literally died from laziness and tends to run sloth 3 in-game since it can expand with its sacreds and then transition to skeleton armies.
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>>182093971
Their lore.

Sceleria made undead servants to do all the work for them. Eventually the mages in charge got sick of raising new undead and tried a massive ritual to make their lives easier. The result was Lemuria.
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>>182094151
so it worked?
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>>182093834
Ignore this map; the vanilla Maerlande map had some missing connections, so I'm adding those on.

I'm also going to edit the TGA to draw on the sea connections and fix one province's borders
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>>182094691
dont wanna use corbeau tool?
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B51DS6LWagFTTUVZT2diTkdXa2M

okay, here's the map. It has the connections for the islands drawn on, connections fixed, and one border redrawn

>>182095720
nah, not for this one.
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>>182094682
On the one hand they dont have to work anymore, On the other hand they doent have to work because they are all dead and ghosts.
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Pelagian Thread
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You know, darkest dungeon might work pretty good as a modnation. Start off with bandits and cultists and shit, fishmen coastal recruits, start summoning undead and swinemen troops for mid game and vampires and shit from the darkest dungeon for late game.
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>>182101632
Bloodborn would probably work better.
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>>182095775
Is this the mappo which will be used for This game >>182093834
?
Also I joined as Pan.
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>>182102453
The one on the game page.
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Did you know the winningest strategy for Xibalba is to go to steam chat?
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>>182102561
This might be why I can't win with Xib
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>>182102561
t. Malakal
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>>182102442
Maybe, but then I would have to make some sprites rather than just shrinking pictures.
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>>182102845
They're literally just MA R'lyeh
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>>182103228
But think of the spriting anon.
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I know there are spells that turn dudes into soulless and frogs and stuff but can you make a spell that will turn an enemy into any monster you want after it dies or are you limited to those options?
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>>182105950
You can make weapons and monsters that turn enemies into friendly units with #raiseonkill and #raiseshape.

You can simulate those effects with a spell that performs a polymorph+charm. It wouldn't be able to "mark" a unit to transform on death though.
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>>182106367
Neat.
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A certain nation will be BTFO next turn.

Screenshot this post.
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Are awake researchers a thing
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>>182107957
In blitzes with easy research, yes. Otherwise, an expander will do more
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>>182107717
Is it me?
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>>182107957
For some nation when you take an awake rainbow (Lemuria or some cases of MA Ulm maybe), and you don't expand with it (you need gems for your death mage summons or your infantry is doing fine) you will just sit and research. Then go and sitesearch.

Also, classic innovative MA Ermor Neteret of Many names for BoT/Foul Air on turn 14.
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How come these independent wizards get to use all these cool spells right at the start of the game while my fucking god leading an entire nation has to start researching from level 0?
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>>182110854
Literally every nation murdered their entire corps of pre-existing magicians because they were too self-absorbed to swear fealty to the hot new god around. Indie mages are the only ones who survived the burning of books and burying of wizards.
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>>182110854
They get cool spells in exchange for being bumbling retards who cant use them properly.
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>>182110854
Previous pantokrator wiped out knowledge of spells from everyone when he ascended
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>>182107717
Caelum likes them sometimes, helps a lot with early expansion but an awake expander is probably faster
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Can you take Misfortune + Drain if you put your gems on your researchers?
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>>182085820
Admin, please delete Vanheim's pretender.

I don't want to win the game anymore. I have a better plan.
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>>182112741
Well, it makes "magic is fading" events not much of a threat but it's awful. Besides, both drain and misfortune have quite substantial costs associated with them even when taken alone. That isn't to say drain+misfortune can't ever be a good idea but most nations would rather not dump drain and misfortune 2/3 has a lot of other nasty things than drain events.
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Oh boy, here I go winning again
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>>182116391
guy on the left sure looks like he's having a good time
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>>182116489
3 thrones, bunch of stalers. Not that you didn't do a good job.
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>>182116915
That and no one really tried to stop me when I was obviously snowballing
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>>182116489
>>182117031
All I wanted was an epic battle at some point, looks like I wont even get that
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>>182117031
Ya I was thinking I (Oceania) should have taken you out instead of hinnom, but I thought i had more time!
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>>182117184
Where do you want to fight?

>>182117204
We'll see the graphs in a sec, but my mage production has been absolutely disgusting, and with the ME spells, they're pretty much all useful battlecasters
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ded
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>>182120468
It's only ded if you believe it to be ded, Anon
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>>182121249
I'm a believer.
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>>182121368
holy shit
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what should be scripted for B1/B2 blood hunters against possible thug/raiding attacks?
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>>182123274
summon imps round 1, leech/reinvig round 2
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>>182123330
I don't think this will work against a thug which starts out on the enemy backline.

Leech will be out of range so the thug will clean up the imps and move up to your helpless mages.
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>>182123885
It Depends on the thug, sure

If it's susceptible to LfL, that'll kill it ded. It doesn't care much about range. If it's a ponyman, leech from the frontline will 1 shot it too
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>>182125526
oh, right, forgot the whole point of the post - the imp/leech script is specifically to stop flying heavy raiders like gwiffons or devils or w/e, where you have a round 1 holder to possibly interupt casting and then leech to do the actually killing. LfL is less good against these kindsa groups because it has a high fatigue cost and kills only one of the bad guys, so you'd need to get lucky with sniping the leader
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Congratulations to TurtleIsland Ermor. Did not expect EA Ermor to win, good job.
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>>182125949
What, someone won? And it wasn't the guy with 5 free caps?
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>>182126096
Ermor just thronerushed and claimed 5 at once, winning the game. And boy is my asshole sore.
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>>182126263
I think I might have annoyed him tho.
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>>182125526
>If it's a ponyman, leech from the frontline will 1 shot it too
If it's right at the back, you'd need to be exactly in the right position to have range. And leech isn't 100 precision, either.

A round or two of 'attack' orders from the frontline should work, though.
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>>182126713
>And leech isn't 100 precision, either.
Nevermind, it is. Must have been thinking of something else.

A single attack order from the frontline would be sufficient, then.
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>tfw you've killed 4 of an opponents heavy thug/SC golems
>tfw 2 of these kills happened when he teleported them onto my unprepared armies, but they still lost

Ulm just go AI dude.
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How much better would MA Machaka be if spider knights were size 3 and spider warriors weren't cap only?
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>>182127413
Oh, you finally figured out what gifts from heaven is. Guess I need to repurpose all these other golems I've built.
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>>182127828
It's called "summod".
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>>182123885
The thing is imps will fuck up their scripting.
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>>182128218
>acting nonchalant about almost 200 gems worth of stuff being destroyed
wew
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>>182129953
>forgetting about forge rebates
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what game are these golems in?
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>>182129953
Also please remember while re purposing to make sure your guys can kill a single skelespammers worth of longdead before dying to the turnlimit.
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>>182129953
You're one to talk, wasting who knows how many slaves on crossbreeding.
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Oh, this is MagusAssistance
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Quick, someone tell me how to kill 70 W9N9 Morvarchs with only 4 mages. Is it acid storm + firestorm? I bet that's it.

In unrelated news, anyone wanna sell me a Skull of Flame?
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>>182130010
MagusAssistance
>>182130001
That was taken into account. 100 gems worth of golems, 44 gems worth of iron faces, 12 gems for 2 firebrands, 6 gems for two frostbrands (I am assuming you didn't empower a smith with water, right dude?), 16 gems for 2 boots of quickness, 18 gems for 3 Scutata Volturnus's, 8 gems for a jade armor, 18 gems for 3 crystal coins, 8 gems for a vine shield, 6 gems for a black steel full plate, 2 gems for 2 storm spools, plus some other stuff I probably forgot because fuck re-downloading an old turn just to check this shit. But yeah, thats actually 238 gems, with your rebate, at the minimum.
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>>182130510
Your numbers are a bit off due to misremembering things. I only made one fire brand, for example. That was on my first golem, which I meant to send at Mari before we finally broke through and ruined that shitter. Didn't have time to swing it by a fort and re-equip it before you came through my border. I also didn't put ironfaces on all of the golems, some had other helmets.

Furthermore, Abysia must be destroyed.
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Blood Nation Begone!
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>>182131075
http://astral-corruption.corgiorgy.com/
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>>182131135
http://universe-on-fire.corgiorgy.com/
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if I die my dom4 memes will be my legacy
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yo put some eyes of aiming on those bola guys
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Are there any magic items you can double up? Can a mage have two eyes of percision?
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>>182132469
Bottles of living water, and a few others I forgot. Mostly items don't stack (like magic boosters of the same type).
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>>182132469
Giving a mage two magical eyes is a very bad idea because you still need a normal eye to see out of.

I don't think two eyes of precision would stack anyway.
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>>182132469
>>182132991
I mean your guy has magic eyes, but on the flipside he's blind. (-10 att/def/precision?)
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>>182133164
Blind sets att/def/prec to zero.
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>>182132337
I stopped building bola guys a while ago, but maybe.
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Mass black heart+cat eye Gift of Reasoned assassin eater of deads.

Viable strat?
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>>182136001
If you're at that point, might as well use a cyberdemon.
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>>182085820
Memeing the game up as abysia.
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>>182136681

Abysia isnt really meme
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>>182136681
>Playing the strongest Blood nation in MA
>"Memeing"
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>>182138454
>>182138639
Not when you are shit at the game.
You almost made me change my mind because i want to play something people will not consider a threat.
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>>182136681
You haven't seen the beginning of memes boyo
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>>182139132
this guys trying to steal my karma. admins, please ban
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Do forts taken from Berytos by other nations keep the 10% coastal income bonus?
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>>182140427
No, it's a national bonus. Same way Ulm forts don't give you more resources.

t. removed both
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>>182140529
okay...
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nigga, what are you doing

restart with better arena please
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Autostart was a mistake.
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Has anyone done the math on how many more afflictions you'd get with neutral growth with old mages as opposed to G3?
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Better arena is a meme anyway. These are just people with bad starting locations.
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>>182141441
As a person with shit starting location, I'm deeply offended. If others would vote for a restart, I'd like Better Arena as well. And more nostarts.
Sy, you said you fixed the fucking map, you liar.
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>>182141534
>>182141441
How do you get summod .78 to work? I've extracted it in the right folder but it aint doing shit
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>>182141806
Extract the files FROM summod folder TO your mods folder.

How many fucking scrubs join random game, holy shit.
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>>182141883
you just wait till you meet my giants, 10 astral 10 blood bless!
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>>182142012
Can't wait. Hope we start close to each other.
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>>182141534
Can we please keep this start? My dragon can reach his province
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>>182142168
>unironically picking an awake expander on a 150% resource map
I hope we start close as well.
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>>182142237
>>182142098
>Unironically taking bait this obvious
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>>182142721
>"I-I was only pretending to be retarded xD"
kys
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>>181835698
Anything ever come of this?
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>>182021642
The unit descriptions for the clowns are far better than they have any right to be.
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Don't you stale on me now you piece of shit.
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>>182121368
>no Astral Corruption replacing Well of Misery
Disappointing, frankly.
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>>182132469
CRONE WITH FOUR COPPER ARMS
THAT'S ENOUGH ARMS FOR THREE BOWS OF WAR
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>>182125949
Thanks!

>>182126427
That message was actually meant for Oceania, who won the UWbowl ~3 turns ago. But yeah, I would have prefered to avoid fighting you. Not enough gain for that much annoyance.

The game wasn't very exciting for us landlubbers. I expanded well with an E6N2 awake bull and shame cubes of principes. Vultured some of Lanka's (they were being eaten by Helheim) and Oceania's/Therodos' (UWbowl cheaters) provinces. I got elf'd and pan'd, but managed to defend myself. Conquered Pan's cap, but wasn't able to actually kill Helheim, so I just threw some raiding squads here and there while waiting for evo7/const7/alt8. Geared golems + firestorming augur elders cleared the thrones and sneaky arch bishops claimed them the next turn (and held, thanks to wizard's towers).
That's basically it. I think Oceania's (who's the actual winner of this game, honestly) AAR is gonna be much more interesting.

Good game, everyone.
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>>182148236
Oh, and by the way, many thanks to everyone who played the game for being excellent people to play with. I'm pretty sure we had exactly 0 (zero) stales and no AIs at all. I hope I'll play with you guys again some other time.
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>>182148649
I fought Berytos until he finally died. I think he used all his gems and all his money to give me a good fight.
That was nice too see, sadly it hurt me too much for me to be a serious contender to win.
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>>182148907

And this is why you should fight till the bitter end - even just to spite your enemy.
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I know i know, i will be home in like 2 hours
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>Kalaisa's most expensive summons are weaker than other nations' recruitable mages/thugs
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>>182152094
>teleporting Siddhas, perfect for throne capping
>autocasting celestial music Devalas
>Fucking Yakshas and Yakshinis being one of the most powerful mages and non-StR
What's wrong with this?
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>>182126263
Newfag here. Doesn't thronerushing take a minimum of 2N turns? One to teleport to each place, one to claim it?
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>>182153468
It does. But casting Wizard's Tower/Three Red Seconds/Living Castle on that province the turn after teleporting/clearing the throne makes it impossible for anyone to steal it from you until the next (third) turn, since they need to storm the newly built fort.
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Whats the monster in the game with the most priest levels?
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>>182154481

Transformed chayot is H8
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>>182153995
Ah. Thanks.
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>>182154481
There's a few with H4. Look them up in mod inspector.
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>>182154609
Shit nigger.
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>>182141534
There's nothing wrong with that start
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>>182153468
You can claim thrones with H3+ priests and your pretender. If you have enough priests in position you can go from controlling 0 thrones to winning the game in 2 turns.
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>>182157962
Oh shit, IDK that.
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18h extension in Earth Attack, requested by Agartha.
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>>182161354
>t. malakal
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>>182148649
Comfy.
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>>182141534
>his free province is a farm with probably 200 income
>'shit starting location'
Go AI IRL
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>>182024201

As a child I remember seeing "The blob". What a terrifying creature to summon.

>Irony alert.
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>>182166096
>no resources in capring on a nation that needs it
ok
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>>182166174
150 resources, +1 normal province, throne might not be that bad, you'll be fine son
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>>182166267
i'm not him senpai, i'm just sayin 3 prov capring where one is a farm, one is a throne and one is a plain will make his expansion suffer so he's right to complain
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HONK!
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>clowns winning

what a time to be alive
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turns must be done by you
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>>182167095
i really have to hand it to the Armless Women
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>>182170908
Its amazing what you can accomplish with a bit of hard work and elbow grease.
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>>182167095
shi shi shi shi shi shi shi shi
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>>182167095

I wont lie, I 100% blame Egg for making balanced nations.

And also myself for not waiting two turns for game changign spell. Oh well you dead anyway...
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>>182174380
At least I got to take over two and a half thousand of your gold down the drain with me.
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>>182174532

I am quite surprised you could afford all this stuff with your scales and territory size.
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Guess Koschei wasn't so deathless after all.
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>>182175575
That's Bogarus?
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>>182175698
Sure is. He sent an immortal outside of his domain and paid the price.
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Can a weapon with multiple attacks hit multiple targets (in the same square of course)?
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New summod non-meme game when?
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>>182179961
MA, carto revis
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>>182179961
>summod
>non-meme
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>>182180208
xD
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>>182178007
Yeah, I've been making a lot of mistakes. I mean, normally I'm still not great, but I recently shifted to a new schedule and I'm on new meds, and I keep doing dumb stuff like this where I'm just not thinking clearly. I think this is me sort of tapping out of this game, if you want to finish me off.
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>>182184751
I did kill the character that was doing most of the messages in that battle, didn't I?

If I don't kill you, Caelum will. You'll probably win the next battle over how many troops I lost in this one, but then again I did win massively on gold.
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>>182184751
Hey, no matter what, you ain't been playing as dumb as me. I'm losing to monkeys and losing to PD. Oh, and to lizards, but that one is actually legit.
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when your prophet styles on someone
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>>182188287
That's a qt
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>>182188287
>>182189438
top tier

but really, who's the artist?
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>>182190434
Malakal
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>>182190569
stahp
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>>182190647
t. Malakal
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should one wait on claiming the throne of death?
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>>182184934
Aw hiss I'm legit
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>>182188287
>>182189438
CUTE!
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>>182189438
Patchy and Youmu?
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Malakal, I really don't have time for your bullshit. You literally have THREE HOURS to do your turn. THREE HOURS, and you were the last one to submit before as well.

If this continues, I'm going AI. Have fun winning another scrub game, I guess.
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>>182194158
Be understanding. Just think of all the other newbie games. He has to do turns for all of them, and work his plumbing job.
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Anyone thinking of hosting a disciples game soon?
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>>182148236
At Ermor's request I'm going to do a quick AAR of the UW bowl.

I hit conjuration 5 first. I won. The end.
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>>182195169
I like it. Thanks.
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>>182195169
>"deep and meaningful UW gameplay in a harsh godless world where all your choices matter"
What did Illwinter mean by this?
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>>182195169
Wait wait wait wait.

Pelagia didn't win UW bowl?

Also did any of the community game anons note down Chinese starts?
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>>182192830
It depends on how well you can use death gems and the stage of the game. If you can use the death gems NOW, even if it's basic low-research stuff like giving 5 death gems to your mages and casting Shadow Blast it in the following battle, or summoning Pale Riders after 2 turns and then sending them to claim enemy provinces, the income will likely allow you to be just a tiny bit stronger and immediately make back the losses from death dominion (one or two provinces captured or 200g worth of enemy troops killed will probably compensate for your losses from a death scale). If death gems increase your strategical or tactical repertoire (such as Caelums gaining access to really big mages that provide you with extra diversity, or LA Agartha getting a really good SC chassis), even a delayed reward is probably worth it.

However, while bootstrapping to new paths and subsequently broadening your strategical toolkit is nice and all, if you start from scratch and have no good long-term use, I don't think it's worth it. If the gems would just pile up until you have a hundred at which point you empower a D0 mage twice at which point you start summoning banes, that's not enough.

That's purely from the perspective of comparing value of death gems to gold, however. The throne makes 2 temple checks so, supposing you actually benefit from spread of dominion, claiming it kinda grants you 800g worth of stuff instantly. Moreoever, already having a throne claimed may make throne rushing easier in the future. Also, if you can trade the gem income to something you can actually use now (including the amount of gold you'd be losing from death scales, provided that your trading partner isn't likely to kill you now or later), it's probably worth it.

Without knowing anything of the game situation, on average I'd lean towards "claim it".
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C'tis, I am sincerely sorry for that tragic miscommunication.
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>>182195773
there is a chinese community?
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>>182195840
Yeah I can certainly put the gems to work i'm just also burning through my gold like mad too
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What the shit Belanie!?
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Also Jomon - Pan's stuff was all moved north. You can take his provinces now while I fight his armies and deal with this horrid dryad bullshit

I suffer these seductions so the world doesn't have to. All I ask in return is that you say - "Thank you Ulm. You martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment."
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>>182196495
At least two. Trow is good. Tlf is not.
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>get off work
>see this
Thank you all.
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>>182195169
But seriously:

So context for anyone not following this game: we were playing the updated version of Peliwyr and we had all 5 EA Underwater nations in the game, essentially cramming 5 players into 10 UW provinces.

I had the best starting position by far, I ended up at the top of the pond so I had 2 free UW provinces above me I could grab uncontested. Thed had the second best starting position on the far end of the pond where they only bordered 2 other capitals. Atlantis and Pelagia both had about the same start, bordering 3 other caps apiece. Poor R'lyeh had the worst start by far, bordering literally everyone else.

So I went with an awake Wyrm and my overall game plan was to move to uncontested UW and coastal provinces, fort them, and rush Conjuration 5. And my plan pretty much went off without a hitch, in fact it got sped up a bit because of a few events.

I began the game by using my Wyrm to expand blind to White Water which I claimed with no bumps. R'lyeh however immediately took it from me the next turn. Instead of attempting to take it back I sent my Wyrm onto land, which ended up being wise. Squids then unsuccessfully attacked my cap with their Awake Snek and were driven away by my PD, the Snek survived the attempt.

So after the first few turns I decided to continue focusing on expanding using my Wyrm to grab coastal provinces and my starting army to grab my free UW provinces. After R'lyeh's first attempt I made a point to recruit as many of my Itchycentaurs as I could and have them patrolling my cap. My foresight came in handy when turn 8 R'yleh attacked me unsuccessfully again, this time however I was able to kill their Snek. Elsewhere in the pond Pelagia was already sieging Atlantis so things were pretty lively.
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>>182199956
do you know if there is a korean community?
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>>182195342
>>182195517
>>182195773

>>182200314
I continued to defend my cap/began building palisades in my uncontested provinces until Turn 14, where poor Pelagia met tragedy at the hands of Dominons 4 Dominion mechanic. As soon as Pelagia was extinguished by his lack of candles (while still sieging Atlantis) I took the opportunity and immediately moved my patrolling army to begin sieging their now empty cap. I dropped everything I was doing and began moving all my troops to defend Pelagia expecting R'yleh to fight me over it, however they did not contest me.

I breached Pelagia two turns later and very nearly lost myself the game (I was convinced I had at the time) by submitting my turn drunk and being so focused my scripting against R'lyeh that I forgot to tell my commanders to storm the castle. Luckily R'yleh didn't contest me there that turn or the next and I was able to recover. R'yleh instead decided to attack my Cap and finally clear my PD that had caused them so many problems earlier in the game.

Turn 19 my research hit Conjuration 5.

Turn 20 I had my capital back and was sieging Ryleh's capital (and had an unsuccessful attack on Atlantis's cap but we'll forget about that).

After that I because I had Conjuration 5 and 2 capitals I began to snowball. I managed to clear Atlantis's PD while still sieging R'yleh. Then I was lucky enough to domkill R'yleh thanks to Oceania's domspreading turtle hero. After that Therodos got aggressive and began moving to my cap, and Ermor began to take my land provinces. I however persisted and managed to successfully take R'yleh and push Therodos off my capital with Water Elemental spam.
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>>182200314
>tfw you were worried about domkill so you built a basalt queen turn 1
>tfw pelagia sieged you out before you could build a mage but you managed to domkill him and get free eventually
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>>182199276
Thank you Ulm. But unfortunately I have been suffering the same fate as you. My cowardly commanders value "muh dick" more than their own lord and savior. The ones whom are able to resist the horse-pussy are quickly assassinated by massive swarms of insects.

However, soon we shall be free from the Pangaean menace.
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>>182200675

At this point Atlantis had been under siege more turns than he hadn't so my main rival was Therodos, but I had a 3 capitals and he had one. Suppressing Atlantis and Therodos took a while and was hindered by their Immobile gods, but both eventually fell to my unending tide of Water elementals. After I hit conjuration 5 I rushed Alteration and began casting Quickness and barksin on my Elementals which made them even more nasty.

A turn after I managed to finally conquer every part of the water, Ermor throne rushed and won the game. Congratulations to Ermor. I was looking forward to cranking up my blood even more and using sirens to spam thunder strike and air elementals, but I had no illusions I had a chance of winning.

Sometimes the simplest strategies are the strongest, and this proved be one of those times. Countering Water Elementals is extremely hard and by rushing Conjuration 5 I was able to just use my Water gems and W2s to crush anything my opponents could throw at me, including a Telhkine SC Thed cooked up. Overall only thing I would change would be to take a higher domscore on my pretender. I got two domkills at dom 7, I bet it would have been even more crazy with a higher score.
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>>182201080
>Telkhine
She was my only hope. It hurt so much when you destroyed her ;_;
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>>182200539
No idea. Wrana or Stainedclass on dom3mods might know. There are also some korean dominions 4 players on the teamliquid boards.
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Post the skeptic prophet.
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>>182200687
>tfw you start building priests turn 2 to preach
>tfw all your dominion spread rolls fail
>tfw negative dominion event on cap kills you
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Why would one use an awake Dragon over Earth Snake?
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Abysia 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ys 2h file received
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>>182203512
Because using awake Earth Snake every second game is fucking boring.
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>>182203512
cause it's a fuckin dragon
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>>182203512
Because you want to drop it on a fuckers cap turn 1.
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>>182203512
Dragon fire, flying, maybe a need for the paths it has. Probably not great because of afflictions, I'd only suggest it for a nation with healers.
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>>182203512
When you want the paths. Awake w9 dragon is p legit.

It's also kinda nice in LA at fighting xbows. You can take the nasty heavy + crossbow provinces with hold or hold/fire x2 and then attack-archers. Since the commanders stand near the xbows, the fear aura routs the commanders, so you never need to actually fight the heavy cav or w.e until they have the stat penalty from routing. Snakes can sometimes get shot down into bleeding and routing from those kinda provinces, so while your dragons or maneaters get afflictions, they're slightly more reliable at capturing them
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>>182201304
She survived the first battle! Even I was kinda sad to see her mercilessly pummeled to death by all those elementals.
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>>182196347
a grave mistake indeed , anyway ill leave this part of him to you and focus on my other border ,
have fun
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>>182203641
Sent ;)
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What a nice throne to have in my cap ring.
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>>182208010
At least it's not Zeus with Spring Hawks
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As far as trades go, not bad.
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Wait a minute, did Malakal ask for ANOTHER extension?

DO YOUR TURN KURWA
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Do your turn you filthy elves.
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>>182215582
this exactly
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This was a small game with one of two other major powers staling out, so the AAR's gonna be pretty short.

I submitted a placeholder snake and didn't get a chance to change it before the game started, so I didn't have the A4E4 titan that I was planning on using but hadn't tested.

My game plan (because I had the wrong mod) was going to be to spam the Shields of Soft Earth to immobilize everyone's army forever because I thought it'd be funny. This led to my dumping 32 gems on shields that never actually got made and made me feel sad. But it was okay, because I still got to try out other ME stuff once Rob helped me realize that the problem was on my end.

Snake expanded as snake does, but ran into Abysians and died. Abysia thought that meant that he should attack me, so I killed his army. Then Fomoria thought that meant that he should attack Abysia and cut me off in the process. Abysia paid me 30 F gems for peace. I wanted a lake that I bordered and Oceania said he'd give it to me if I helped him fight Fomoria, and since Abysia had bought me off I was down with that, so I helped kill Fomoria. Then Abysia attacked me again, so I killed his armies again and most of the rest of his land. Yomi took his capital.

Machaka had been fighting Helheim, but while he got out to an early advantage, he made some hilarious scripting errors and a few poor decisions overall and lost a ton of troops and mages to, among other things, W9N9 sacreds, draugr, a throne, indy barbarians, being trampled by routing elephants, and heat auras from his own fire elementals. I was going to fight him because he had an army on my border, but he complied with my demand to move it away so I fought Helheim instead. I sent Yomi a funny message and he attacked Helheim with me instead of attacking me or Oceania, with us being his other neighbors and the two potential contenders by this point.
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>>182215582
Leave my cousin alone!
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>>182215582
Ugh fine
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>>182215582
>>182217195
>>182217229
Oh nvm it worked carry on.
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Anyways, Fomoria went AI having lost all his stuff and Oceania failed at fighting the AI Fomoria a few times so I took over sieging Fomoria's cap. Oceania, now without any obligations, started eating the staling Machaka and the weak Hinnom. Helheim started staling at some point shortly after this too, which meant that in his already weakened state he lost all his stuff pretty quickly. I took some of Machaka's provinces and was in range of the thrones that I needed to win.

I killed Yomi's army because it bordered one of the thrones and attacked Oceania to inflate my province count and reduce he stuff he'd have to try to stop me.

So overall not he fiercest fought game, but I got to try out the new buff spells (windwalkers is super strong) and the new para-elemental summons (which, along the the W/E meld spells, make Ulm's normally unimpressive crosspaths super good). Ulm's new national stuff is okay. Spirit Warriors are dirt cheap and good to put a berserk axe or brand and some kind of shield on, and they can be specially equipped to clear thrones. Their low HP means that you don't want to OVER equip them, though, and you can use them as in-combat thugs with your excellent buff magic. The forge spells to give armor piercing and armor bonuses weren't hugely impactful, but I imagine that I'd have really appreciated the armor piercing if I were fighting E9N9 giants or geared Dai Onis or sosuch.
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My research lagged a little bit early because I was using my mages in combat from year 1. Luckily I was recruiting TONS of mages, so my research delta was insane. I made a few quills (regret), but no lanterns because by the time I hit cons 6 I was burning F gems for combat.

My research priorities were actually mostly unchanged (Alt 2->Conj 5->Cons 3->Ench 4->Cons 4->Evo 5->Alt 7) with ME basically giving me new stuff to do at those values rather than changing what was valued
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I think after Alt 7 I went cons 6 and then luxury magic
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>>182217671
You killed the army that was besieging Helheim's cap, my main army was eating Machaka, by the time I had it turned around you'd won the game. You caught me a few turns from reaching Evo 7, probably would have been a longer game if I didn't want to try out fully geared Dai Oni thugs in ME

Also how the fuck was I the highest research
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>>182218908
I was using mages for fighting pretty much constantly, and weren't you running magic 3?
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>>182218908
Oh, and since I didn't see it - what was your mage support with your other army like aside from the kitted dai onis?
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>>182219170
Mostly skelespammers/shadowblasters, I was also sending sorcerers out with earth gems for earth meld spam. I was mainly in it for kitting out Dai Oni and I only lost one the whole game through so I'm satisfied with that game.
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>>182216776
fucking batsssssssssssss
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>>182217229
Thanks lad.
>>182221127
You doin alright there, bud?
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>>182221127
I-I'm so sorry. You were too small and my cat is too hungry. I like Bandar Log too though. Do...do you want a hug?
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>>182221716
if by some miracle your internet dies and you stale
i swear to the monkey god of me that i'll throw monkey shit all over your land
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>>182222136
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do your turns
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>>182224538
?
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https://github.com/larzm42/dominions-tools

Does anyone know how to use this to modify the names of research paths? Or, better yet, does anyone know how to use this at all?

I know python, but there is basically no documentation whatsoever.
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>>182194158

Whats your fucking deal, it literally shows you Arco didnt do his turn either. And he has way less shit to do.
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>>182228694
Arco might as well be set AI at this point, so don't deflect the blame. TWO extensions THREE days each. Do your fucking turn.
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>>182229410

I think you may be retarded. The game won't host until everyone does the turn, that includes Arco. Me doing the turn won't change that.

Oh and also I am at work and won't d it for a fw hours anyway.
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>>182230941
It will host if I ask Andre to forcehost :^)
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About to do a vicious back stabbing lads.
Keep on your toes, lads.
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>>182234857
I can see right through your tricks, Agartha.
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>>182234930
But actually don't watch your back because such a thing would be pretty beneficial to me, haha.
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>>182234857

>elfing intensifies
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>>182237591

>bat bonanza happens
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Why do Yomi's supposedly strong Aka Oni's in turmoil 3 get fucked in the ass by sacred -heims that they outnumber 4 to 1
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>>182240158
Aka Oni's are only strong relative to other Yomi troops which are complete garbage. They don't stand a chance against good sacreds.
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>>182237591
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>>182240158

Being naked is a bit of an issue.

Try ko-onis, they should fare better what with being size1.
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What's the best way to aggressively deploy vampire lords if you have GoH and a pushed-out dominion?
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>>182240304
Is Yomi kind of bad?
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>>182249321
No. It's really good. Has a pretty high win rate. It just struggles with early game because it's troops are hard to use.

No nation with access to RoS and WoD on tanky mage-priests is can be considered bad.
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>>182249685
WoD?
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>>182249882
Wind of Death
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>>182250194
Wow that spell sounds metal as fuck.
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>>182217671
Nice AAR, thanks for the feedback and glad you managed to get things working.

ME is intended to make low crosspath mages better and EA Ulm is one of the winners in that equation. Since the version you were using there have been some tweaks to the paraelemental spells and the E/W meld spells as they were a little too spammable. Sounds like you didn't have much of a late game to try the higher level stuff, but let me know if you saw anything that looked like a problem.
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>>182250276
it is
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Hello everyone! A few days ago, I released my first mod, an EA custom nation called Thalamanth, that's about sacred amazons and strong air magic. I already had the opportunity to balance it a bit, but I'd love to have more feedback to balance it even better, especially since only a few people told me what they thought, and since the feedback I received was pretty contradictory (some people telling it's too strong, others too weak). Anyway, I hope some of you will want to try it against AI and tell me how it feels! And of course, have fun doing so!

Here's the link to the thread and download: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3411
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>>182250276
Battlefield-wide mr-negates decay effect.

Made even better by having near identical requirements to wailing wind.
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>>182250640

1. Cap only mage is REALLY weak. Some nations get better mages rec anywhere. Sure, his paths are good but it is a weak expensive mage on a shit base stats chassis. Also mm1.
2. Crystal startege is extremely expensive and all kinds of not worth it.
3. Crystal pythia is same as above. Check out how much Atlantis pays for h3 and what stats they get there.
4. Crystal priestess and cloud monk not really worth recruiting. If a soothsayer was 100g you would have doubts too and he gets a better random.
5. Crystal sorceress is obviously good, but the same as indie.
6. Cloud sages are good, actually a good mage for the nation.
7. Sacreds are diverse and ok. Not very strong but better than monkeys. The infantry one is very massable.
8. Composite bows are always nice, cav has 2 spears tho, looks like a bug.
9. Initiates have two spears. Fairly sure they would e worse than flags tho.

Overall its a weak nation with solid A4 access and a lot of possible sacreds. Better than some vanilla nations but not top tier definitely.
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Marignon 2h file received
Lemuria 2h file received
Midgard 2h file received
>Patala Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Ragha 2h file received
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>>182251456
Just to be sure, are you aware of the fact that Crystal Astrologers, Strateges and Pythias all can wear the Amazon Jewels, that are very cheap and accessible and give them +1 in every path, including Holy? If you were'nt aware of that, do you still think they're overpriced?

Also, Crystal Pythias are healers, which is very useful in a nation with almost only old mages; and Strateges are your only flying/120 leader

Crystal priestesses are worth recruiting whenever you need a cheap priest to build a temple, and cloud monks are your cheapest mage and researcher, easily massable in mountains

I don't think cav have two spears, it's probably a bug in the Inspector

Same for initiates, however they do have a spear and a javelin

Anyway, thanks a lot for your answer! If you still think it's weak after what I've said, I'll probably buff it a bit again. Something like reducing Strateges, Pythias and Astrologers gcost by a bit, 30 maybe; what do you think?
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>>182252751

Strange, inspector didnt show the items. And I checked for items and spells. What cost?
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>>182253697
Crystal Jewels
Const 2
A2S2, 10 gems of each
Restricted to some specific female.ages and priests only, including pretenders
Cursed
-5 magic resistance
+1 to allmagic paths including holy

Sky Shard
Const 4 or 6 (I forgot and I'm on my phone)
A4, 20 gems
5 temporaary air gems
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>>182255262
>const 2 ring
jesus christ no
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I go to bed, and when I wake up all the turns are still waiting for 2h file
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>>182255538
I don't see a problem with this if the mages are balanced around it.
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>>182256172
you can trade them.
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>>182256662
It only works on old woman mages.
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>>182256662
You can't put them on, they are restricted to specific units.
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Why the fuck do people recruit indie Militias and use them for combat. Is this a meme? I'm seeing this in multiple games in different communities.
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>>182258691

Cheap siege but for combat its ehhhhh
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>>182258691
There is a common event that gives you militia.
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>>182258691
mercs, events, siegers if you don't have gems but have gold, same as some nation's actual troops just recruitable without a fort
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So what am I supposed to use for mage support as Nazca? Everything's either hilariously expensive (and cap only) or incompetent.
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>>182260658
The Hurin Priests. They're expensive, but good
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>>182260658
Cap mages and Hurin priests my dude.

Also I hope you like gimmicks since Nazca is Gimmicks: The Nation
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Sorry Ulm!
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>>182260939
How many Iron Warriors fire elementals were there?
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>>182260658
nigga you have access to one of the most versatile D mages in the game
>D2A1s can WoD
>all can skelespam and shadowblast
>D2E2s have access to all the delicious E3 spells
>D2S1s can Nether Darts and communion up
>all for the low, low (high) price of 235g on a flier with priest levels that also leads your infinite supayas
Though Acllas are also pretty useful in late game summod, since you can do that fire LotNS spell and have them spam pillar of fire, if you want
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new tredp lz
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>>182260994
Z E R O

It was all blade wind and magma bolts.
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new trepb
>>182262061
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